People that had to unalive someone in self defense, what's your story?
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I think the scariest part of the first story was that the intruders obviously didn't give a shit that the family was home or that the police were coming. They were there to hurt them.
It ended wel
These stories reinforce why it is essential that American's have the 2nd Amendment this is why I always keep a firearm with me at all times. There are evil people out there that do not care about you, your loved ones and we need to do whatever it takes to keep ourselves and loved ones safe.
I always wonder whats going on in their heads. Might be nothing but them just rushing a random family with no thoughts and risking their own deaths for something stupid like that. I want to think people do this with some kind of goal, but maybe there are people who are just pure monsters
I get the feeling they were on drugs
Given that one of the intruders had duct tape, they /planned/ for the family to be home. The whole thing sounds targeted. A couple of lowlifes looking for a quick, easy score aren't going to spend all that time and effort getting through a serious security door. They're going to have one or two goes at it then move on to a place with flimsier defenses.
Friend of mine kill3d a guy who tried to assault her. Dude messed with the wrong lady. She punched him once. Only once. Hard enough that he didn't make it. Guess that's what happens when you try to attack a trained fighter. Haven't talked to her in years but she never felt bad even for a second. All she ever said about it was "that bastard won't hurt anyone anymore and for that i am proud." That girl was an absolute legend, spent a lot of time helping other assault and abuse survivors, including offering protection when they went to court against their abusers.
Doesn't even have to be a trained fighter for a single punch to end you. Humans are pretty durable, but silly and random things take us out all the time. People die from single punches to the head distressingly often.
@@Azereiah yeah, makes it even wilder to see boxers or mma fighters take insane amounts of hits to the face and just continue doesn't it?
@@adenkyramud5005 Yeah, but repeated head traumas like that have led to family massacres. Horrifying stuff, TBI. It's not common that it goes that far, but personality changes less drastic than that can happen too. Friend of mine was worried she'd never be herself again.
I’d be in a class she was teaching.
I have no problem with someone ending a life in self-defense. In many of these stories the writers WARNED the attackers and they still approached. The attacker caused his end, not the writers.
I have a problem with the guy saying "if we were in Texas the story would be over already" because he sounds like someone who is happy to have had the opportunity to kill someone, rather than someone who had to do it. Other than that I agree, when someone shoots your accomplice and your first reaction is to move towards them... there's no way to fix that kind of Stupidly Dangerous. I feel bad for the guy really struggling with what he had to do, I hope he gets better.
@@TheOmegaXicor I'm not going to say that I'm wishing a MFer would, but I do agree with the sentiment I picked up from that story. If someone comes at me or mine, they're not going to last long. God forbid I have to take a life, it WILL mess me up, but in that moment there will be zero hesitation. Absolutely no hesitation to take the life of someone wishing to harm my family, only some if they're coming at me and me alone. I can handle the pain, but I can't handle my family being in pain. Seeing them hurt makes me hurt so much more than being hurt myself. So I get the sentiment in the end. I'm sure after a bit I'll stop feeling any remorse for what I had to do, and start feeling angry that the world produced people who either had to be criminals, or wanted to be criminals. Because we should live in a world where nobody is hungry, nobody is at the mercy of the elements, and nobody needs to fear what the next day brings, but we don't. Thousands of years of work, evolution, and society, yet we STILL don't live in that world. That's the real crime of it all.
None of these are real
@ThatNiceNice you have no way of proving that while yes reddit is full of people spinning yarns or heavily stretching truths but alot of stories end up having some grain of truth
to be fair "dragging away by her hair" gave me the image of a woman on the ground and a man bent over dragging. that would make the woman less of a human shield.
Same here
Still very lucky to not shoot his mom dead (as an 18 year old not focusing/aiming his shots)
@@3days_left oh absolutely!
8 year old having a .22 cal rifle used to be very common, I know lots of people that started shooting .22’s at 4-5 years old. They are also very accurate.
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.22s don't have much in the way of recoil, which makes them perfect for training, especially kiddos. Because they don't have heavy recoil they're actually quite accurate and very common for country folk to use as Vermin Vanquishers, particularly in defense of a garden / livestock. My Dad used one when he was about 7-8.
The headphones story, my lord, what if he hadn’t heard his wife screaming? Shudders…
Glad to see I wasn't the only one in the comments section wondering if anyone was going to mention this. Like it made me scared to wear headphones
This story messed me up a bit I dont wanna use this shit anymore
I'm pretty sure he said noise cancelling headphones not the open or semi-open kind, you still can hear through those well enough :D
The kid was definitely eight and not eighteen. A .22 is a very small caliber no matter what the mechanism is, and a lot of children are taught how to keep themselves safe in case of emergencies, or how to hunt.
Adrenaline will stop a person from thinking clearly, so while it's not exactly a miracle the kid didn't hit their mom, it's not good to fire in those circumstances to begin with. Shitty scenario all around.
His parents taught him well to know how to shoot a gun with great aim at 8
@@3days_left It's not hard to teach someone to point an object and pull a trigger. With enough experience, a lot of the flinch goes away, too. It takes a long time and a lot of drilling to get adrenaline shakes under control, though.
If she was being dragged by her hair then more than likely she was on the ground.
You'd be surprised. In some states, young kids are allowed to have guns as long as they have adult supervision. There are even "child-sized" versions of things like .22 Rifles, for teaching kids hunting and stuff. Which is probably what the 8 y/o in the story was using.
Yes I was allowed to carry long guns since I was 12. Never hurt anyone. Close call in college tho, when guy smashed our door in. He came down hallway, rounded the corner, and found me waiting with loaded 12 gauge. He had no weapon, and
It’s a pretty prominent thing here in the south. Most kids around here get their first BB gun around kindergarten/first grade, and they just go on from there. But also, gun safety is drilled into kids heads around here as hunting is pretty prominent as well.
I remember from like Kindergarten and up there were gun safety courses in school run by cops and game wardens, think DARE week but for guns and at the end if we had permission we were allowed to fire guns. They had like a mini gun range set up in the gym for us.
'Murica
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I was pissed off about the guy who killed the man who was molesting his girlfriend and went to jail for a YEAR. Since when is defending an innocent person a crime?
Because he wasn't in the middle of doing the act, its not legally defense of other. It was honestly generous that the courts didn't make it premeditated murder seeing as he bought a gun illegally. Unless that was another story. Hard to remember all the details
@xanithdegroot5407 if your first reaction to hearing of your significant others assault is to commit a felony it's iffy. That's a lifestyle choice to be a felon. Then his second choice was to also commit a felony by threatening a legally innocent man.
His decision making MIGHT be the reason he wasn't allowed to buy a gun in the first place. He should be ecstatic to have just 1 year.
@@jackskudlarek3138 yeah. That's why I said it was generous that it was just manslaughter. He should have been charged with first degree murder and illegal possession of an unregistered firearm.
@@xanithdegroot5407Yea, outside of a ground serial number, there was nothing "illegal" about buying a gun from some guy at a car meet. Completely legal sale. Till he mentioned a goind serial number lol
@@ponderin depends on where you're at. Some places have different laws regarding sales of firearms.
Honestly surprised more of these didn't end with OP arrested or tried for murder. Self defense is valid but some prosecutors are jerks.
Depends where and when it occurred. Like 10 years ago all of these would be valid self defense but in modern time they would likely try to go after a few of them.
Can't really speak for the states or other countries but here in Canada they basically want you to be in the middle or being assaulted before its self defense, and even then if you kill or severely injure the attacker they'll still at least try to go after you even if it won't hold up in court.
@@thetoasterisonfire2080Thats because it's a communist country now sadly
Even if they want to, they would have a hard time finding a jury that would convict them
@@greenagoo A charge alone can really ruin someone's life for a few years. There's the financial pressure of lawyer fees and bail, jail if you can't pay, and community stigma regardless. Just because there's no conviction doesn't mean the prosecution is harmless.
@@blackosprey2219 I'm saying, they will almost never try to prosecute stuff like this because they know it's highly likely they won't get the win. They only care about convictions. They don't care about that other shit
I haven’t killed anyone, but due to my own SA as a 5 year old and my mother having been nearly kidnapped and her teaching me get back home, no matter what, and us being women of color, I know I would if I had to. I started martial arts in my late 20s, my daughter in her early teens. She is 21 and is now this very moment working on her 3rd black belt. We are tiny women, standing 5’1 and we joke with the neighbors we are tiniest and most dangerous women in the block. I’ve only had to defend myself once against a stranger and once against my daughter’s father years before she was born, in the 30 years of taking martial arts. A guy grabbed me and unzipped my jacket at a club (I was nude underneath). I put him on the floor, foot on neck, arm twisted near breaking. Her father got pummeled in the face, black eye, busted lip, before police pulled up, (he was trying to stop me leaving his apartment when I broke up with him, we did get married, divorced but he never put hands on me ever again …still won’t step within arms length of me now).
But I know if I had to defend my daughter or anyone I loved, I would unalive someone without hesitation.
The trusted babysitter story was extra sad. OP trusted him! That betrayal is so evil.
I hope there won’t be a single comment stupidly saying ‘just let them rob you, a life isn’t worth your stuff’ but if there is, remember they could decide your life is worth more than your stuff.
The narrator said it themselves, 5 stories in and 2 of them were stories of people that were more interested in hurting you than saving their own lives.
You are your own first responder, the professionals are minutes away when seconds may matter.
Lest be judged
Oh there probably is, most likely on a different site circlejerking their egos or their naivety
Right. It's not ME decided my stuff is worth more than their life, it's THEM for choosing to steal from the wrong person 🤷🏽♀️
@@NoodleDergsGoBrrr Reddit is more likely that kind of place. I remember someone got into his high horse and sermon about how you're a monster if you kill someone even if it's for self defense.
Remember, I didn't decide your life was worth less than my stuff, YOU decided your life was worth less than my stuff when you broke into my home to steal it
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6
46:52 "my socially conscious self doesn't love how O.P. talked about specifically quote unquote black leadership in this post".
He described what they did and said and how they twisted the facts and ruined his life just to advance their own influence and wealth. This is unfortunately somewhat common for many individuals and organizations that are (self-appointed) voices for various causes and groups. Any "socially conscious self" should be as upset about such abuse of power as the O.P. was, as even he correctly pointed out that such behavior harms, not helps, the movements they're claiming to stand for.
I like undersparked but this was kinda a iffy thing that he said like it’s not like it was white leaders or Asian leaders or any other race and it was specifically THEM who harassed op and tried to send him to jail why can’t you call “black leaders” I guess African American leaders would sound more “socially acceptable” but they are one and the same and no I’m not racist I’m just saying op had every right to speck his story and mention and single out the “black leaders” because it’s true they did it he can talk about it
TRUTH!
@user-es2vf4qn3h "African American" is no longer really considered socially acceptable, as it often comes off as patronizing. And a lot of Americans apparently don't understand that not every black person in the world is African American.
There's nothing wrong with using the word "black."
I have no problem with the 'black leadership' bias in that story. there was a similar story ON. TAPE. for everyone to see.only in this case it was the police who were on the receiving end of this phony martyrdom. NYC, and while it was probably on all the major networks a few months back, the one I saw was on ABC. Mentally off possibly drugged up whacked out male screaming and threatening whom I think was his grandmother in a small kitchen. She was on the floor, not more than a foot away from the freaking knife wielding crazy, screaming for her life; there was no where she could back away to as everything was blocked. The police must have yelled at this guy for several minutes before the final send off.
The next day, all the 'black leadership' with their basset hound expressions were out decrying the fact the police had shot a black guy. Not ONE word about that woman. NOT ONE FREAKING WORD. The story went nowhere; the media did not harp on it, the 'leaders' race pot stirring did not bring any followers out.. that was the end of it. However, I guarantee, at the end of the day after multiple stories like this, they are going to make more enemies than they started out with.
@@SkyFyre2435 I am 71. they have changed this several times. each one acceptable and the previous one ejected. I don't care anymore as I am tired of it.
100% the reason I hate how all headphones have to be noise cancelling. It's nearly impossible to find good headphones that aren't. I have been attacked several times and got away because I could hear someone approaching which gave me a split second to really react and get away. Why does everything have to be noise cancelling??! WHY!?
Only reason I feel confident walking late out night in.my headphones is because of my (very protective, but elderly) cattle dog. At night, I'm her eyes and she's my ears.
Plus I know how to handle myself, my main concern is rando drunk people trying to atognoise her into full protection mode. Cattle dogs are smart and loyal as fuck, but fairly enough still think they're all still on farms, so anything approaching us on very very long daily walk/run is a threat and must be backed away.
I rescued her when she was young from bad situation (wanted too badly to please the owner instead of doing her job) so in return I got the most protective, needy, abandonment issued, super smart, wonderful cuddle bug instead xx
Yeah my uncle is the same. Only goes jogging with his dog by his side because he has been attacked in broad daylight. They try to antagonise his dog too
Viet Nam combat vet here and yes I and the unit I commanded took lives. It has never bothered me much given the circumstances and it was us or them. What will really screw someone up is when they start to enjoy it. That is really bad and the Mark of Cain. I had to watch for that with my platoon and had to remind them that while we had a mission which involved killing the enemy it was never a good thing to take a life even if it is our enemy's. Most of the guy could keep that balance but I have seen a few who have gone over the edge that way.
Thankyou for your service. My grandfather was in Nam and hes mind is still there. Its really sad bec everyone thinks hes weird. He just never came home mentally. ❤ Im sorry for what the Military put you through, and i hope you have a good support system now. Take care hon!
To clarify about the story with the 8 year old. Yes. A 22 caliber rifle is basically one of the weak, starter type firearms you might see kids use at the range. They're small, lightweight, relatively quiet, have barely any kick, and are mainly meant for small game & target practice.
Barely? There is none lol
@@MARCHOFTHESAS True for adults, but I was small growing up. Got a teeny little kick.
It is a sad state of society when you have to say unalive.
People make fun of the 90s and their donuts and cousins and sports drinks but look what we got now.
Its so people dont say " im gonna k- you" or stuff like that.
@@Banana_SlammaOther than the increase in racism, homophobia, and lack of laws against predators, I wouldn’t mind living in the 90’s
@@luckyslob3359 You can’t really decide as to whether those are lessened or not, my guy. Either you wanna live in THE 90s or you don’t.
@@Aesos3429 Yeah…? I know those things are there, but hey I’m tolerating now pretty fine.
I’m a little confused as to when I insinuated I wanted to “decide” what kind of 90’s I wanted to live in. But ey, it’s a little mistranslation, no worries.
Your supervisor coming to your home to make sure you are actually sick is insane. I would have quit that job so fast
8 is a common age for firearms training in rural areas. a 22 has no real power so it was a trick shot that he hit with lethal force. 22 bolt actions are called children's guns, used to be boy's guns but I had one as a child myself. 28 gauge shotguns are also low powered first guns.
To be fair, the only time I ever saw someone refer to .22 as 'less than lethal' unironically was part of the ZIP .22 advertisements, and it was only accurate in that case because getting a ZIP to fire is a nigh-on miracle.
@@gratuitouslurking8610I remember that pos it completely destroyed the company
Alot of these stories are the result of fucking around and finding out
Something like this happened to me. It's not much of a story. My dad was a marine and taught us girls basic self-defense. When I was 13, I was walking home from school in the evening after a club activity. A man attacked me. I don't really remember the rest. The next thing I remember is getting home, and my dad was on his way out the door to find me, cause he "had a feeling. " He asked me if I was hurt and what happened. I told him I wasn't, and everything that I remembered. He said to go take a shower and put my clothes in the trash and not tell anyone. Then he left the house. When I got in the bathroom, I realized that I was covered in blood spray. I did what he said, and he came back about 2 hours later and reminded me that we were never going to talk about it again. For years, I didn't. This happened when we were living overseas. It was not a good area. I always wanted to ask him where he went, but he died, and I never had the chance. I don't know if I did unalive someone or not. No one ever talked to me about it if I did.
Damn. That sounds kinda traumatising to not only know what your dad did, but what happened to you. I personally would need to know (even if it wasn't savoury), but I have no doubt that your father was acting on your best interests, so if you don't need to know, I genuinely hope you can rest easy knowing you have a loving parent who potentially put themselves out there for you.
I've always trusted that he knew what to do. He was a loving and compassionate person.
@@heatheranne9305 that fact that he was a marine tells me that whatever problem might have existed when he told you that didn't exist anymore by the time he got home. Got to know a few marines, there are no other people I'd trust more in bad situations than these lot. God bless the USMC.
as I live in a rather peaceful country I never had to kill to self defend, but I did in one time find myself, being an EMT, in a situation where I needed to hit a woman twice my weight, drunk and having psychiatric condition in the head to stop her from hitting me. (yes, same story in a different video where we listed her as a "danger list" for my fire brigade)
To reinforce the fact the guy who isn’t handling it well is not being weak or whatever, police officers usually to go see a psychiatrist after shooting someone because of how traumatic it is considered. Killing someone is hard to do in actuality and it can mess people up severely for the rest of their lives.
The kid with the 22: I have no doubt that the kid was 8 years old. In most families that have multiple firearms the young are commonly taught gun safety at an early age so that curiosity will not be a factor when weapons are involved.
Story 4 vet, technically, yeah, you killed him, but to be fair, with a bomb that big in the van, that guy was taking a one-way trip either way even if you didn't pull the trigger on him.
You mention your level of empathy, and even being soft, but honestly thats what I like most about this channel. I can trust y'all to listen and care, and consider the human aspect of things. Helps me feel comfortable and relax, and just listen to the stories
My 8 year old can rack a slide and charge an ar15. That being said, no way in hell id give him a firearm to keep. At that age they are old enough to handle them safely and know not to shoot someone, but the maturity level is not there. That's taking a huge unnecessary risk.
I wanna say at 12 we knew where the hand gun was and the ammo that being said I did not own a gun but knew how to safely use it. (My cousin had dated a druggy and he kept coming over after she moved to try and get her. I've had to call the cops a few times for him trying to break in and im home alone with my siblings
The term you're looking at for "dragging" is carrying. The true dragging in the person or often too heavy for you to lift, you pull them against the ground. The dragged victim's head would barely be over your waist. So the person's back is full of targets that would miss her as long as he's careful to aim only over the waist.
I don't think I would be bothered by the deaths in most of these situations, maybe the trauma of going through said event but not for the deaths. A lot of them sound like they were dangerous people who gave up their right to life by endangering and even hurting others for pleasure or greed.
The very fact you don’t like his comments about black leadership getting behind obviously and undesirable undeserving coward is exactly why he used those words. I support OP 100%.
Story 12. He could have been 8. I know friends of mine were given .22 rifles at very young ages to plink in their yard. Usually this is out in the country, where guns are much more a part of your upbringing. I was 10 when my uncle first gave me a .22 to shoot.
Story 12 19:43
8 Years is correct here. This is in a rural area in the US. If you live there, its likely you own guns. If you own guns, you better teach your children gun safely as soon as they can walk. A 22 bolt action is a rifle that shoots 0.22 inch diameter (about 5mm) bullets. If you can hold the rifle, you can deal with the recoil. It is just one step above an air gun. It is still a lethal weapon, and the trusts these parent have in their child is immense. But the fact that the child hit 3 of 5 shots tells that the child had lots of firearm training before.
I am not sure whether or not I would let a child this young have access to a firearm and munition, but in this situation it was a good thing they had. Safety rules change, if you live so far away from others that you can not call for help.
If mom was being dragged she was more than likely lower than the attacker and eight year olds are taught to use guns especially where I live in the country…lots of kids learn to hunt around that age
A person being dragged by the hair can be on the ground, not always stumbling after their attacker. And in some parts of the States, people do actually let kids that young have guns
21:50 Sparky boy, you clearly do not come from the country or old-school traditional American family. Most boys gets his (Red Ryder .17, BB, .22) at a single-digit age. All my children will be taught to shoot at a very young age. Families vary, but it is common to teach boys (especially) to shoot pretty much as soon as they can hold the gun and have shown themselves to be ready to become a big boy. It is imperative for children to understand 1) guns are not toys 2) they need to learn to operate them safely and effectively.
Hey! Wrote about this same thing almost word for word before looking for this comment haha
I thought I could try to handle this. I was half mistaken. This is dark, and I think it is time I lay off on these stories. Remember, your mental health is important. And I feel bad for those who suffer from mental issues, but remember, you are loved, and nothing can change that. You are in a bad situation, but you can always recover from it. Have a great day.
Q: Why would robbers continue to move TOWARD an intended victim who declared that he was armed?
A: They were high on aggression-promoting drugs like cocaine or methamphetamine.
Or they're just like that. My cousin is a pseudomasachist and a psychopath, so whether you hurt him or he hurts you, he likes it. He's a druggy too, but that doesn't have anything to do with the foundational personality.
TBH, doesn't even need the drugs for it. Getting within 6ft of a person can drastically cause issues with maneuvering a handgun (see all those officer bodycams where someone's armed with a melee weapon and is able to pressure the cops by continuing to walk forward as the cops demand them to drop it/keep backing up, that's part of the training.) All it takes is someone with more bravado than self-preservation to think 'yeah I can cross the distance and get it off them.' Sometimes they can be correct, and other times, well, see the video.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 Yep! Of the many things that piss me off in movies, it's failing to recognize the 'range of efficacy'.
Some people still believe they're invincible. Especially people who love to intimidate people. Superhuman way of thinking, but normal human body.
Its sad some peoples self-preservation is so low they would just run into someone with a gun. im not sorry for them as they chose the path of murder, but them not valuing the only life theyll get
To OP who is feeling messed up by what happened, what you had to do, I’m glad you’re still around and if it helps any, I would give you a hug for as long as you need.
I hope I'm never in a situation like any of these, but I think I would lean toward no regrets. It might take me a bit to come to terms with the reality of the situation and outcomes, but ultimately, I will choose my life.
8 Year olds with guns. In the mid-1980s as an 8 year old Pennsylvania farm boy living at the base of a mountain covered in trees, creeks, and small ponds that my family owned a chunk of all the way to the top, along with knowing all the neighbors.
I was carrying a .22mag Ruger Single-Six OR a .22lr Ruger Mark-II w/(snake/bird shot) OR a .410 bolt action shotgun, whenever I wandered beyond the back yard of my Great-Aunts house which was almost everyday...
Rattle snakes, Copperheads, Coyotes, Bobcats, Bears, Feral dogs...
"Keep your eyes and ears open. Avoid danger when you can. If you can't scare it away, Put it/them down before it/them puts you down."
Now-days My EDC is 9mm compact, with a Judge w/(defense loads) in the nightstand for 3am bedroom doorway situations and a gun-safe next to the dresser & wardrobe. I've been 'Attempted' Mugged/Carjacked 2 times, both dropped the weapons and ran when I drew.
Your commentary at the end of story 11 is a big part of why I personally try to condition myself as a concealed carrier. I'm not wanting to harm someone but I have to drill myself on the knowledge that some people may want to harm me and will possibly force my hand one day. I think that mental conditioning allows it to be easier to cope with because it creates a rational disconnect from the situation by which one can tell themselves that their attacker is to blame for their untimely demise.
I always here is your stuff worth more than someone else's life. These stories prove that its not the stuff thats in danger its the people
I was shooting rifles, shotguns, and riding Yamaha 80s at that age. I grew up right, in the county...
Story 27 is annoying they need to take accountability for their fellow ppl do stop pulling the race shi!! It’s his fault for breaking in you get what you pay for… oh well maybe it will help ppl think twice before they do something stupid!!! I’m sure his mother had an idea too they are not stupid they ignore their kid’s actions until they loose them 🤦🏽♀️
Related note: I feel like the Agency of the perpetrator is often… ignored(?) sometimes in cases like this.
I feel like that happens for different reasons a lot of times, but it ends up giving me a bad taste in my mouth.
Like, yeah they did (insert crime) and maybe loss of life could have been prevented, but They made a conscious decision.
Does that make sense? Idk if i described it very well but it’s something that’s lowkey bothered me for a while now.
As a person living in a red state in the midwest, I'm inclined to believe the 8-year-old story. It's definitely not a norm to have a gun under your sole custody that young, but I knew how to use one by that age. Cub scout camps almost always have .22 riflery under close supervision. Boy scouts (age 12 and up) frequently had shotguns and clay pigeons.
I think you really need to check your bias. You seemed a lot harder on OP in story 27 than the other stories. You say you’re socially conscious, but at least at the point I am in the video this is the only one that mentions race and you were harder on OP despite him being slandered and having his life ruined in a completely justified situation. He was in immediate danger just like many of the other stories
Please start posting the game and platform in the description, thanks!!!
Game used is “Control”
@@Noura-xk3wh Thanks, it looks awesome.
1) Yes, 8 year olds can be taught to use a rifle. It seems a bit young to me, but it paid off in this instance.
2) His mom was being drug, *not* carried. She's on the ground, while the guy was (at most) bent over her. Given the circumstances, probably not even bent over.
Story 30, the guy who's having a rough time: This is PTSD. Some people get PTSD and some people don't; there's an element of luck of the draw to it. There's no shame in having PTSD, and it's not somehow less valid if you're not a soldier.
I have PTSD - not from doing anyone violence, but from some bad times in my own life - and gosh, OP, I feel for you. I've been there. All I can say is that it does get better, and please, talk to a therapist about it. It took me four years to move toward 'okay-ish', but I'm ten years out from my darkest times and life is worth living. Having a professional help with all those nightmares and intrusive thoughts would have made the healing so much easier, and I hope you're able to access one.
You'd be surprised how many little kids can use guns lol- I live in Vermont where you don't need a license for concealed carry and I know 10 year olds that own guns and kids who learn to shoot with their parents even earlier because of hunting. I don't doubt that op could have at least landed a couple shots on that guy at 8
That's a great point to bring up in story 12, how insenuating feelings in people that they aren't having can make them feel like theres something wrong with them. Whether that story was true or not, I think that's a good thing to remember.
thanks for bringing back the gaming footage, it's sooo much better
Im assuming the story with the 8yo OP was, in fact, an 8yo OP. Its not unusual for young children to be taught by their parents how to shoot and handle guns, especially something like a .22; usually for hunting, but also to teach proper gun safety.
An 8 year old can handle a gun and it was common practice until the internet took over
I’m one who likes to believe that no one deserves to die but the way people just blindly ignore warnings several times just shows they really don’t value their lives as much as they should
20:54 No, he meant Eight in rural areas kids are taught how to hunt small game such as rabbits for food and it's common in scouting to teach kids to use a rifle
Leave it to SF to label it an execution he’s lucky he didn’t get charged by them
Yeah wow, one of my mom's friends was stabbed 13 or something times protecting a girl at a party, I think the attacker was shot or stabbed can remember tho. The guy that was stabbed 13 times lived tho.
As for the 8 year old, that's actually fairly common in more rural areas. A .22lr has basically no kick so it's good for learning discipline. Knowing how to use a rifle is important in rural areas for hunting and fending off wild animals, it's not surprising, to me at least, that an 8 year old would be taught how to properly use and store a firearm
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On the topic of story 9, I don't think people truly understand how terrifying being choked or choking someone can be unless it's happened to them. I have a friend who is a professional fighter in my class at uni. We were hanging out in my dorm, and he was talking about chokeholds. I do karate and told him that I've never properly been choked before, as we do semi-contact at karate. I let him do one on me so i could experience what it's like.
As a disclaimer, don’t do this yourselves. He's been training for years, so not only can he do it safely, but efficiently. As in "Knocked out within 10 seconds" efficiently.
As soon as he put the pressure on, I panicked, even though I knew exactly what was going to happen. 3 seconds, no more than that. I have not felt so panicked in years and I could feel it for the next hour.
Tldr: Choking induces panic like you would not believe, so don’t choke people.
Gun autist here, anyone referring to ".22 caliber" is most likely referring to .22 long rifle. Despite the name it's actually one of the smallest rounds ever produced measuring roughly 5x15mm. It's quite popular to train kids and hunt rodents with. And 8 year old can absolutely handle it as it has virtually no recoil especially in a bolt action rifle.
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Fr this might have to be on a tv show or something cuz GEEZ the robbers were stupid I mean if your gonna rob be god dam smart about it not hey let me move toward this man who does not sound like a child in a place where you can have guns and just said “ LEAVE IM ARMED”
A relative, who is long dead, fought in a war, I think it was the Mexican Revolution. He told my dad that he has no idea if he every killed anyone. My grandpa on my mom’s side almost killed a guy who was following my mom and her friend (both were in their teens), guy left as soon as he saw my grandpa with the rifle, that was definitely a close call. I come from a Mexican family so I imagine there have been stories of having to kill in self-defense from the older generation due to war, thankfully I have no experienced that.
9:54 I knew this one would come up… Recognized from someone else's video, still a really hard one to hear again! Thank God for that one quiet moment
Oh my god.. Story 8 is just downright horrifying, like physically make-you-sick-to-your-stomach and burst-out-in-tears kind of horrifying. If I were ever in that situation, I don’t think I could be nearly as merciful as the husband was.
I am so, so sorry for anyone who has ever had or gone through an experience like this. It is never and never was your fault, no matter what you said, wore, or anything else. Please know that continuing to live your life is one of the biggest middle fingers you can give to these scumbags, and that you deserve to be happy.
Edit: If I have triggered anyone, please let me know and I will take this comment down. Thank you.
OP's story of using a .22 bolt action, I could see it. a .22 is pretty easy to handle and has very little recoil. Esp if OP was living somewhere like a farm or other rural area where police response would be delayed. it could very easily of been done
21:24 brother, you're probably not real big into gun culture. But the way it works varies from kid to kid. Maturity of the kid is assessed and given a gun when the kids deemed ready. Might be 8. Might be 13. I had my first bolt action at 5. 8 is very realistic. And the drag was probably happening by the collar.
“Busted in my back door” killled me 💀💀
.22 is still a bullet. Zero recoil even for a child
"Sorry man, you saw my face."
*guts mugger*
"Sorry man, it was my life over yours. Night night."
As regards the 8 year old, the rifle he described is a .22, which is a very small round, sufficient for small game, like squirrels, ground hogs, and the like... but will not humanely kill anything much bigger, not reliably anyhow. When he says bolt action, he's describing the way the firearm operates, with a manually-operated bolt (the part that holds the round in the chamber), which must be pushed up to unlock it, pulled to the rear to eject the last spent shell casing, pushed back forward to load a new round from the magazine into the chamber, then re-locked by pushing it down. There's no springs to fight in this whole process, so no issues of a child's upper body strength. It's a very simple manual of arms, and on a .22, well within the capabilities of an 8 year old. I learned firearms at about the same age on similar rifles, as a rural latch-key kid back in the 90s. Having the open access to it like that, rather than it being locked in a safe or something, is a bit unusual, but the fact that the kid was proficient in its use does not strike me as odd.
I imagine the mom being on the ground as he said she was being dragged by her hair...in the backwoods, more common than you think, to teach a child to handle a gun.
I haven't killed anyone in self defense, but I did kill someone's social life in self defense. there was some kid I was friends with who would just invite people over to his house so he could bully them. eventually all of us decided to stop hanging out with him. this was in late elementary school and early middle school, and we ended up getting to see him go through high school with no social life, no friends, always looked depressed, and seemingly did nothing with his life after high school. he graduated a couple years ago, and as far as I know he still lives with his parents, never leaves the house, doesn't have a job, and still has no friends, but then again I haven't heard shit about him in years
Story 8 may have been an execution but it was a warranted execution
The 8 yo with the gun. Beautiful. Saved his mom and made his dad proud. Guns are tools, learn to use tools safely and properly.
That co-worker was in on it.
Story 8 fucked me up man.
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21:02 if your raised right like I was I got my first gun at 7. It was a 22 and I got BB guns before that. It’s all about learning and demonstrating gun safety, once i demonstrated good gun safety for a long time my parents got me a 22 and progressed from there. So a kid can easily handle a gun but it’s all about being trained to handle a gun properly. And being able to demonstrate that safety in different circumstances
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Regarding the guy that was dragging his mom away, she could have been on the ground and he might have been dragging her by her hair or by her arm and she more than likely was not standing up.
Also in rural areas, kids are taught very young how to handle guns. 8 years old with a .22 is not that uncommon. Kids around here drive to school with rifles hanging in the back window on a rack. Especially during hunting season.
...... my son, 7, owns a .22 rifle and knows how to use it. Training kids with safe gun practices and respect towards weapons drastically reduces the chances he'll accidentally hurt himself or others. It's super common where I live, and honestly, im glad that boy saved his mum.
Also dear narrator, you can't say you sympathize then condem with your next words. If you've never been in a situation you don't get to judge if it's OK or not. Till you are faced with death at the hands of our fellow man you'll never understand, and it shows unfortunately.
A smart criminal who's just trying to feed their family or something will back down the instant they realize someone is home. These were not smart criminals.
I know it's hard, but I hope the sensitive ones are able to put aside what they had to do. Better you survive than a person so crazy and willing to harm others.
I dont judge anyone in any of these stories. I do feel bad doe those who are having trouble coping with the after effects and fervently hope they seek the help they need. Self forgiveness is often the hardest thing to do.
I feel especially bad for the veterans in these stories. War is war, and those people they killed would have killed them without a moments hesitation. It's awful that some of those in the (any) service, past or present, feel burdened by doing what they had to do. I hope that they eventually find peace, or at least acceptance. Defending one's country, and by extension one's countrymen, is just as noble as defending one's family.
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It’s control
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I feel for the guy that was turned into the villain. There was a home invasion robbery in my neighborhood and the resident shot all 3 of them, but ended up killing the youngest. He was 16. His mother kept trying get media support to put pressure on the DA to prosecute. She tried everything. But everyone involved was black, the kid was at the home at 3 am, she didn't even know he wasn't home. They knew the homeowner shouldn't have been home because he typically came home at 4 am. The only thing she kinda had in her favor was this wasn't long after Parkland, and AR-15s were a hot topic. His gun was legal and registered. That's what the homeowner used. Nobody took her side. She tried to leave a memorial at his house, he said no, then on the corner, the HOA said no. Finally, she got a small cross and flowers on the corner that wasn't part of the HOA. It said "he was only 16".
Okay. Here's a bit of gun knowledge for you. Bolt action rifles come in all sorts. I have seen kindergarten girls at the range practicing with 22LR rifles and pistols. An eight year old kid in the back woods of Nebraska can easily handle a deer hunting rifle from a prone position. And those things are so accurate even a child of eight would have no issue hitting a perp without hurting mom.
And a bolt action merely means you have to physically work the action by lifting a handle, pulling the bolt backwards, and reversing this process to chamber the next round. A semiautomatic rifle will shoot, extract the spent casing, and chamber the next round at the pull of the trigger. Some force the trigger forward to make ready for the next shot. Some shotguns and older rifles are pump action, which is similar to a bolt action except that it's actuated by pulling the front hand back towards you and pushing it forward again. Lastly fully automatic firearms, AKA machine guns, do it all without you having to release the trigger.
My brother got hus first gun from my parents when he was 10. It was a 30-30 winchester lever action. And my grandfather thought he should have gotten it younger.
Yeah, I can 100% verify there are in fact trained 5 to 8 year old children with bolt action 22s who can use them. That was my first gun at 5. It was a tiny thing, literally made for a kid, and was very easy to handle.
Some people just have a lifestyle that necessitates a child learning how to use a gun, my family being one. Whether it be for hunting, defense against wild animals, or just parents drilling paranoia and fear of strangers into their kid.
Story 1: Think if you were in the place of the guys who broke in for a moment. If OP has a gun and is telling you to leave, you’d leave. Pretty much most people would agree, it’s better to get out alive than go further toward the barrel you’re staring down.
The person leaving lie any rational person would is how far most gun owners ever hope to go. But given all that, what does it say about a person’s intentions that they then keep coming toward you?
I haven’t, but my father, grandfather, and two brothers have in the military. Grandpops was in WWI, shot Germans, and took down one in hand to hand combat in a trench. Dad was in the Navy and no doubt killed Japanese with the big guns. There were three guys he shot in Korea. My second oldest brother was on fire watch in Vietnam. He took down a guy he found snooping around the perimeter. They said it was a civilian looking for food, but there was no way to know who was VC or some ordinary guy looking for food. He had a few more kills when walking point. My oldest brother we don’t know. Someone got him during the Tet Offensive. That’s all I know and most of it was second hand. Our men never really talked about it, only to other veterans. Talking it out wasn’t really a thing. Nobody went off the deep end or showed signs of mental illness. I believe I cope the same way with traumatic events. I was walking on Liberty St. in NY on 9-11. I put some stuff in a plastic bag, the asked myself. “What tf are you doing here?” I took shelter in my friend’s apartment on E. 82 St. I wrote up an account of that day in a notebook, put that in the bag, and the whole thing has been stored in my parents attic over the garage. I have no desire to work through it. I’m giving the stuff to my eldest nephew when I’m gone. He’s interested in history.
I could do it in self defense or defense of others.
The story with the 17 year old stalker both pissed me offso hard, but also surprised me. I DO feel a little bad for the stalker, given we never got to see wether he would´ve just left once he realized that his intended tatget wasn´t there, but then again,...what if she would´ve been there? Rollercoaster of emotions, that one.
It might very well have been an 8 year old. I was familiar with guns and safety by that age, although I was not allowed to handle a rifle until I was 12. I KNEW how to use one before 12 because they carefully taught me about them. Most important was that I was not allowed to touch it unless there was an emergency; where I lived an emergency requiring a pew pew would be something like a cougar or bear, we were too isolated for much worry about human predators.
Today, I keep one in arms reach at all times, except those few places they are illegal like doctors office.
I got my first gun, a bolt action .22, at 10. Most are also relatively easy to shoot accurately as they have practically no recoil and tend to be light
Man, the headphones story is one of the worst things I've ever heard. Paranoia is why I never have both headphones on, and I'm glad I'm that way sometimes.
I’m from a rural area…my kids have used firearms, especially .22s since they were 6 or 7 years old. Yes, an eight year old can work a bolt.
No he meant 8. A .22 Is a very small round meant for small game hunting and target practice. The father probably gave him the bolt action as a warm up gun for whenever he got a larger one to practice first.