Hobby Cheating 270 - Vallejo Metal Color Bronze
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- In this quick Hobby Cheating video, I take you through a simple recipe for beautiful smooth bronze using Vallejo Metal Color, my favorite Acrylic metal paint. It has a sheen like nothing else and this simple recipe will let you do realistic bronze quick and easy. Hope you enjoy.
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That bronze is killer, but I just love how pleased you sound with it in the video. It really shows how long you've been looking for this recipe and now it's been finally found!
It's been a long road. :)
My quest is over, my Death Guard will be so happy that I can finally use my Vallejo Metal Color on them! Thank you so much Vince! You made my week :)
Awesome, happy to help. :)
Can't you do other spooky metallics with different Contrast paints?
I'd honestly love a mini-series or dedicated video going over various recipes with the VMCs. I wish Vallejo would expand on these with a "Game Metal" line or something so we can get some variety of colors. They're literally sitting on liquid gold and not capitalizing on it.
I completely agree, can't believe they don't expand the range. That being said, I am going to do a whole video on combinations.
That is an incredible color! Thank you so much for sharing it with us! You and Trovarion have been such an inspiration to me the last few weeks! Although I have been painting for quite some time (since 2004, but with pauses), I've learned SO much from you two! Thank you very, very much!
Thank you so much! Always happy to help. :)
If only these Vallejo paints haven't been sold out everywhere since June.
It's a shame, there are still some stores that have them, but on the bright side, the new formula should be rolling out soon (from what I understand it's already available in teh UK and EUR).
Seriously been warhammering for ages it seems and just found this channel a couple of years ago, and without a shadow of doubt this channel has given me the most tips and tricks to easy and evolve my painting. Awsome Vince :)
Glad you enjoy it! Always happy to help. :)
You need to do more of these videos with the Vallejo metal color line. Amazing work!😊🔥🔥🙌🏽 I just picked up the whole line.👍🏽
Have been looking for a old bronze, which is quite dark and desaturated. Tinny Tin from VGC mixed with a little black comes close, but you can still see the large flakes (which I know you dislike too). So I mixed Vallejo Model Color Copper with Black (Kimera in this case) and really like the result. It looks a lot like the reference pictures and covers very well too. No longer has the shine, but I am painting old weathered bronze (on skeletons), so not looking for that either. You can always use a glossy black instead of the Kimera. I imagine that GSW bronze with black would look great too and maybe come closer to the real thing, but the more yellow you go, the more green the final look get's and I wanted still a little extra warmth which copper has more than most bronzes do.
Good recipe.
Thanks for sharing Vince! I haven't used any metallic paints other than Vallejo Metal Colour since seeing your Stormcast vids using them a few years back they really are leagues above other options.
My pleasure! :)
Thanks so much for the tip Vince! I tried this today and loved it. It’s going to make painting my KO so much easier. As a side note, I mixed your 3:1 ration with metal colour Aluminium and fyreslayer flesh and it matches the GW runelord brass primer I used perfectly, score!!
Glad it helped!
Love it! I'm even more excited that I have both Silver and Fireslayers Contrast already here with me. I'll have to find someone to be my copper test subject... Stormcast seems a likely candidate!
Bronze SCE seems awesome to me. :)
The guy from Q&A will be happy!
He responded below and he was. :)
Awesome! Thank you so much for the tip, and congratulations on finally cracking the code!
Happy to help!
Contrast paints mixed in the Bright Vallejo Metal colours look absolutely spectacular
Yep, this just blew me away, it looked so nice. :)
Awesome video Vince! It really answered my question from the Q&A, well worth the wait. Now if you'll excuse me im off to buy some contrast paints.
Happy to help. :)
Dang, if only I had known before I painted my KO. Thanks for finally cracking this for us, Vince!
Glad to have finally cracked the code.
Just the video I needed before starting my greek-themed Idoneth Deepkin army, thank you so much!
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Such a great idea for an IDK army
A nice way to take my metal colour further, cheers Vince.
Than you, always happy to help. :)
Really nice, especially considering the army you went with for it (skaven). I'll have to give that a whirl once I get my setup rebuilt.
Awesome, happy to help. :)
Nice! Bronze is my favourite metal color! Thanks for the vid!
No problem!
Amazing recipe, thank you.
Thanks so much for the research and sharing this. I looove bronze and this will be so helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Painting some Minotaurs right now and I gotta say this has been a real help!
Awesome. :)
This is a fantastic recipe, one I'll be sure to use in the future.
Always happy to help. :)
Stoked! Thank you so much for your efforts, Sir!
This would be my only quibble with VMC and you corrected it!
Off to purchase some Fireslayer Flesh!👍😎
Glad to help!
Great recipe! VMC always mixes so well with inks and the like and you really nailed this bronze. 👍
Thanks so much 😊
Like PC exhaust, I'm a huge fan.
THank you, happy to help. :)
Simple and wonderful recipe !! Congrats from France
Thanks so much! 😊
I was just thinking about doing this metallic the other day... perfect timing
Excellent, happy to help. :)
Me: *Planing on a Necron Horde, visiting my favorite Shop's website, noticing "damn, there is no Vallejo Bronze", doing a quick websearch ...*
Vince: *has a brilliant solution*
It's so great, that you share all your experiences with us.
Always happy to help.
Now I want to try mixing all of my different contrast paints with VMCs.
Yep, I think I'm going to do a whole video on this as well in the future. :)
@@VinceVenturella Oh that would be helpful. I am looking for a way to paint colorful metallics, like blue/green/red, but i have no idea how to do so. Mixing vallejo metallics with contrast paint might be a good solution
You cracked the code Vince! Thank you for putting the work to figure this out! 😎 Great video as always!
Happy to help!
Wow, such a simple recipe and such a beautiful bronze result! I have to get some of that contrast paint to try this out on some Nurgle minis. Thanks so much for this video Vince!
Happy to help. :)
I love you Vince!!! Thank you so much for this!
You're so welcome!
This is awesome! Just finishing up a big KO project for a buddy and had to use a GW bronze. It was... upsetting. Good to have this recipe for the future. Cheers.
Glad to help. :)
Fantastic! Exactly what I've been hoping for. Looks like I'll need to get me another contrast paint. I'd still really love to see more videos on various mixing techniques you can do with the Metal Color Gold and Copper to achieve different qualities of Gold and Copper.
Sure, I'll add it to the list.
Excellent Vince, I've also been experimenting so much and tried your previous suggestion of mixing the 3 metals, but this looks better and much easier, especially as you can use the contrast for shading it too.
Yep, this was a big improvement over the old recipe.
I have been waiting for this video for a year. thank you.
Hope you enjoyed it! :)
This is fantastic! I’ve been just thinking yesterday about the best way to paint bronze :)
Glad it was helpful!
Great work! Have yet to try Vallejo metal colour, but will have to give them a go 👍
You should! They are just beyond. :)
I really like Burnt Umber ink with Dull Aluminum to make a pale gold (2:1 silver to ink)
Nice recepie, I'll have to check it out. :)
I have been experimenting with contrast paints over metal colour and have been using them to help speed paint bronze accents on my chaos warriors but I will try mixing them into metal colour beforehand
Awesome, happy to help. :)
I would love to see a video going through the range of contrast paints like you did with fyreslayer, mixed with metal colour.
This is a great idea.
Vince sharing a recipe, I never thought I'd see the day... :)
Thats not true, he is sharing all he knows even to other youtubers and espacially to you and me!
@@TheWalterZabel Don't worry, I know he's the ultimate sharer of minipainting knowledge, but as he says himself: particular recipes are usually not important. He rarely shares any in his videos
Indeed, I rarely believe in recipes, but this was one time where it was baking, not cooking. :)
excellent trick, can't wait to try it. thank you Vince!
You bet!
Very nice, now my sky dwarfs will get the color they deserve!
Awesome, always happy to help. :)
Have all Metal Colora now I think. Its really worth it, not only the best but my favorite piant Brand and type.
Yep, nothing else compares.
Great recipe! I'm using guilliman flesh for the same purpose, but it needs an extra full contrast wash later before shadowing. This is time improver, thanks!
Yep, I tried with GF as one of several I experiemented with, and GF is one of the weaker Contrast paints, so it just wasn't doing the work.
Good stuff
Glad you enjoyed
Vallejo Metal Color Gold + Snakebite Leather Contrast Paint = Sweet sweet deep Retributor-Armor-like gold.
Yes, I think I just need to do a whole video on the combination of contrasts and metallics.
Hopefully your release of this video will cause Vallejo to immediately release their own MC Bronze, in accordance with Murphy's Law.
One can only hope, it would make my 2021.
That’s great, thank you for this tip!
Glad it was helpful!
I've been using your "old" bronze formula, but will be updating to this as rather conveniently I bought some Fyreslayer flesh on a whim in my FLG today!
Awesome serendipity.
Great recipe. Thanks !
My pleasure 😊
I love these videos. I hate the algorithm.
I feel you on that one. :)
I'll have to try this. My normal recipe is the VMC gold with Carrobug crimson washed over it. It gives a deep, red bronze which is good for Khorne armies, but this is better for things like bronze cannon. I'll need to try it.
Excellent, happy to help as always. :)
Fantastic recipe!
Glad you liked it
the pic in the top right was coiled copper, not bronze :)
THe description on the picture said it was bronze, but there I go trusting the internet. :)
It could be bronze. Depending on the ratio of alloying elements, some bronzes can appear very coppery
Very nice. Have you experimented with other contrast colours and VMC? Would be a nice, easy update on hobby cheating 129: coloured metallics.
Yep, there is actually quite a few wonderful combinations, it's the kind of thing I could never cover it all, but it might deserve it's own full video of just cool combos.
Hey, Vince. This is an old video, but important that I throw it in this one. A lot of people seem to be confused between the difference between Brass and Bronze. Have you thought about making a video going into more detail about Brass?
Yeah, brass is the outlier I haven't done yet, it's on the list.
I was thinking about bronze the other day and Vallejo Metal Color (there not being one), plus I think they only have one type of gold in their brand. But their other silvery colors are wide ranging and the best for coverage. thanks for the alchemy tip Vince. I'd never thought before about mixing up their Bronze and Gold to get different golds though, I'll give it a shot. I get a feeling that fyreslayer flesh contrast paints by GW are going up in sales slightly after this video.
Happy to help as always. :)
My hero!
Happy to help as always. :)
Now we need the recipe for a Rich Gold with VMC!
SO that one is very simple, I've talked about it a few times - 3 Drops of Vallejo Metal Color Gold to 2 drops of Vallejo Metal Color Copper. You'll get a nice rich gold.
Hey Vince. I think something helpful for the beginner would be some tips on getting brush control down.
I know the simplest answer is steady your hands on something and keep on practicing but maybe you have some neat tricks up that sleeve :)
As always, thank you for the videos man. Stay safe!
Great suggestion!
Great stuff friend 👏
Thank you 👍
Oh, no picture this time around? I'm guessing we'll see more of this little buddy (skaven, right?)... I'll have to give this one a try with Gore-Grunta Fur!
Yeah, there was nothing really to show with a final picture. :) - I'm sure he'll return again another day.
I really need to pick up some of those Vallejo metal color paints. Only metallics I've used is Citadel and Scale75.
Scale 75 is the best under this, but they are a B, this is A+ land, it's a whole new world. :)
@@VinceVenturella as much as I've seen you talk of them, and seeing the results, ill definitely get some.
Wish they were all this easy
Yeah, this one is a slam dunk. ;)
Thank you Vince I need this video... another video with gold? :D
Glad to help, what do you need with gold?
Contrast paints are just getting more and more appealing to me, but not for the intended purpose. Between glazes, pin washing, and stuff like this, they're becoming more and more integral to my hobby.
Yep, I use them for everything except their stated purpose.
Vince, Thank you for all of your great videos! I am trying to replicate polished brass as seen on well maintained fire apparatus of the late 1800's and early 1900's What are your suggestions for accomplishing this? Thank you!
Maybe something like Green Stuff World's Bronze pigment with a little silver mixed in for highlights?
One man's quest to find the VMC bronze! Looks good. But I think ProAcryl's bronzes have kinda fit the bill for me, in regards to a shade/mid/light tone for bronze. But, i'm an army painter, so i prefer my pre-mixed paints over mixing batches and running into consistency issues.
Fair enough, but this was the end of a long road for me.
Yeah man, awesome work as always!!! :)
Interesting! been using 80% VMC Copper + 10% VMC Silver + 10% VMC Aluminum to try and replicate the actual composition of real Bronze (Copper and Tin 85/15), it comes pretty close but never managed to get it just right. This method seems very interesting and the fact you can shade and highlight so simply is very very tempting.
Gonna give it later tonight
Yeah, it's the simplicity and the finish that really make me love this. :)
Pearl White with a little Burnt Umber for us FolkArt people gets pretty close.
Never tried it, good to know.
There are not enough thumbs up I can give this!
Always happy to help.
Hey Vince, I'm from Germany and relatively new to painting Minis. I really like to paint all kind of monsters but I'm struggling to make to let them look "dangerous". Do u have a tip for me like making claws and spikes look really sharp and pointi?
Sure, so monsters are challenging when you're starting, as they are a combination of lots of techniques (fur, scales, flesh, bone, etc.), my best advice would be to comb the playlist and see the stuff that applies.
To get you started, here is something cogent to what you asked. - th-cam.com/video/AnY7gwABMVE/w-d-xo.html
Yessssssssss thanks...
Always happy to help. :)
Damn nice! I like the metallics in the Pro Akryl range but the Vallejo metal color is event better. The rich tone looked great!
I really like their bronze and copper and the silvers are decent (not as good as metal color) but I can never get the golds to look good. Something about the finish of them just looks off to me.
Thank you, I really love how rich this came out. :)
Vince, have you check out the GSW metallic pigments? They might the Vallejo Liquid Gold killer you always wanted.
I have them on order. :)
yes!
Glad to help. :)
Ur a GD genius Vince
Thank you, happy to help as always. :)
Interesting.
I wonder if i can get similar results in various coloured metals by mixing some inks into these metal color paints.
100% you can, I should do a whole video on the combinations. :)
I like this
Thank you, always happy to help. :)
Huh, I kind of stumbled across this while trying to make do with a brassy gold colour for some mechanicus models using VMC Duraluminium and some Raw Sienna ink. I'd imagine you could probably get the same result of brass using a mix of Sienna and Burnt Umber ink but I haven't tested that out yet.
Sounds right, I think I am going to expand this into a large video covering lots of different combinations.
Perhaps the color is off on my device or on the video, but it looks like the recipe provides a great "fresh" bronze. Wouldn't older bronze with verdigris be a richer and less shiny brown? I suppose the non gloss agrax earthshade or maybe the green shade would be appropriate to matte and desaturate?
Well, we have to have some artistic license here I think. :) - That being said, if you want an older more matte color, then yes, you can apply a wash or something as you describe no drama.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for this! I was dissatisfied with the sparkly Bronze Model Color that came in my Vallejo color set, and this looks perfect. So, if I wanted to experiment with mixing on my own, would you want to stick to only mixing in contrasts, washes or inks?
Edit: My LGS was out of both Silver and Fyreslayer, so I ended up picking up Duraluminum and Guilliman Flesh. My result seems a little more brown than the recipe shown here, but I'm really happy with the result regardless!
Glad I could help! and yeah, many of the colors and inks can produce good results.
Two good tips in one short video, bargain!
Glad it was helpful!
Just saw a video from you working with an airbrush, and my question is what compressor are you using? Seems like yours is just turning on when you spray, i like that.
Thanks, and nice video as always!
Pretty much any air compressor of the appropriate size that does not have a tank with it will do that.
Elliot is correct, it's just a nice simple master compressor (read: cheap) but it has a tank which is wonderful.
Just got some Fireslayers.
THis will be helpful then. :)
Great video! But... It's over and I still have coffee left. lol
Yes, well this one was a little quicker. :)
And another question, we know that VMC Copper is a bit too red and that Constrast paints are pretty matte so it's generally a good idea to use them to shade metals, is there a Contrast paint that can help with TMM copper in a similar manner to this bronze recipe? I'd assume it'd be one of the green ones, but there are several of them.
You could use the greens, or even the dark browns or blacks, copper can have lots of nice colors.
Finally something that might let me finish my army without using Sycorax...
Happy to help. :)
Oooh, I might have to start investing in some Vallejo metallics. Certainly would be better than my leadbelcher...
I can't really explain with words how much better it is. :)
@@VinceVenturella I mean just from the video it looks like trying to explain the difference between a fine aged wine and a box of alcoholic grape juice you'd get on sale at Target...🤣
Try doing the exact same thing with Gore-Grunta Fur! Personally, I find fireslayer drifts towards copper, but then if I was shown the two images you put up at 2:10 I'd answer copper, rather than bronze. Thinking about it, the Gore-Grunta might end up closer to brass? Or is brass more yellowy? And now I'm wondering how snakebite would look mixed with silver...
Either way, contrast paint mixed with Vallejo metals are such a joy to work with!
Indeed, there is actually a huge range of potential mixes here and it's wonderful, it really does produce some wonderful results.
I just got these paints, and I'm so happy that you've made this video. I will definitely use this method for bronze. How'd you go about making a brass colour with vallejo metal and contrast paints?
Brass is something that still eludes me, but theoretically, just add some more red.
@@VinceVenturella Thanks Vince. I think I’ll try different mixes of the two yellow contrast paints and maybe the slightly brown ones such as cygor and gore grunta. Will report back with results if I get a convincing mix.
Awesome. Thanks :)
You're welcome!
Excellent tips. Once More.
May I suggest you write somewhere in the video or in the descrption below the name of the paints you use.
Most of the time I get can get most name from the voice, but occasionally I miss a few names, especially when it itis brand I don't use on a regular basis.
Certainly, in videos where I am using any long list of paints, you will see the full list in the video. This one I kept it simple, as it was just Silver and Fyreslayer flesh for the bronze. The oxidation is any colors like that you prefer. :)
Thanks I was missing the "Fireslayer flesh".
3 Years later, is there a bronze or new recipe that you would recommend over this mix? or is it still king?
I use some Dark Bronze from Pro Acryl or mix pigments. I will sometimes use this as well, it's a mix.
Have you tried what's happening if you just use the contrast paint on top of a silver basecoat?
Yep, you can get a good look out of that as well, honestly, it works either way, but you get slightly different look. I just like this one. :)