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  • @BillyHayes79Music
    @BillyHayes79Music 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1238

    I have a tip for lyric writing. You know when you think of a killer line but then every line you try to find to rhyme with it sounds corny or contrived? Put the corny and contrived line first. It works every time and gives huge weight to the killer line.

    • @mathaha2922
      @mathaha2922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Wonderful idea. I have noticed this same thing, too. Also works for purely musical aspects. I ended up writing my master's thesis on this topic, UTexas, 2000, "A philosophy of musical composition". Wonderful to see others seeing the same thing independently.

    • @yefreman_musica
      @yefreman_musica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mathaha2922 Hi, I would be interested in reading your Thesis. Is it available online?

    • @SHOPXEONOSSDOTCOM
      @SHOPXEONOSSDOTCOM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      my dad taught me this, its a set up bar. begin with the end in mind.

    •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      thats brilliant. I started to do it because in the rap culture I live is like a really tipical thing, on freestyle rap it is called punchline, it allways goes the last because of what you say.

    • @arlizan6473
      @arlizan6473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love it. You've got the point to the story, and as in music or movies or much of life there's plenty of corn meant to be shared DURING the journey. :)

  • @jamesguglielmo223
    @jamesguglielmo223 3 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    The most important thing for me in writing songs, at the initial stages, is not to allow the editor in my mind to interfere with the creative process. You can't be creative and judgemental at the same time.

    • @aaronjohn2578
      @aaronjohn2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Excellent point!!!

    • @weirdtyler4932
      @weirdtyler4932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is the hardest part for me

    • @user-bu6nq1ve6m
      @user-bu6nq1ve6m 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I have that problem i am to big perfectionist

    • @Benry1
      @Benry1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am learning this the hard way! It’s easy to edit later, but spending 5 minutes picking out the “right” word will really kill my flow

    • @sovnd2554
      @sovnd2554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Needed this

  • @salehalthawwadi887
    @salehalthawwadi887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +476

    I'm back like 6 months later to say that this changed my life.

    • @menacemafia5672
      @menacemafia5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      6 months up

    • @KingTrayTovine
      @KingTrayTovine 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @glick278
      @glick278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you! Much Love! HareKrishna&GodBless❤️🙏

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thank you so much Saleh, I'm so glad this helped you - but I'd like to reframe: You changed your own life. I wish you all the best in your songwriting journey. Stay creative!

    • @beckst3r
      @beckst3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      that's so awesome

  • @racheltattersall337
    @racheltattersall337 4 ปีที่แล้ว +740

    1. Repetition and melodic motifs - What do you like and how does the style of music you want to emulate use repetition?
    2. Contrast - is the verse melody clearly defined enough to create contrast in chorus? Length of phrases, note length, pitch, starting position in measure. Shape - map out melody. Harmony - not necessarily more complexity. Chord frequency - changing chords different amounts of time in different sections. Lyrics - verses = detail, chorus = big idea
    3. Repetition
    4. Harmony and groove - tempo. Mix it up so you don’t get stuck. Experiment with different tempos.
    5. Lyrics - include sensory elements

    • @panchxx00
      @panchxx00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks!! 👏

    • @AudioBlk
      @AudioBlk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rachel Tattersall Music thank you

    • @jameshamer3173
      @jameshamer3173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @durungchyangmanish1172
      @durungchyangmanish1172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks you Rachel

    • @SirMorak
      @SirMorak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thx ! Even better than 2x speed ^^

  • @kennethlapointesongwriter3330
    @kennethlapointesongwriter3330 4 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Remember you are writing for the general public---the vast majority are NOT musicians, songwriters, peers, critics, reviewers, etc. The general public simply goes by what a song sounds like to them...how it makes them feel...that's it.

    • @RevoMae2112
      @RevoMae2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always forget this. Thank you for reminding me 💖

    • @JamesBond-zd5jx
      @JamesBond-zd5jx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nailed it. Most popular music today has the complexity of peanut butter and jelly. It might taste good but it’s not all that. There are exceptions of course. But in general make it sound good, promote an emotion, and do it well.

  • @devidasa9637
    @devidasa9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    How in the world can 300+ people down vote this?! When I attended Berklee 30 years ago, my teacher had me transcribe the #1 hit on Billboard every week...and answer 20 questions about it. Such analysis is how the CRAFT of songwriting is learned. Andrea is providing "gold" here...appreciate it!

    • @Berklee_Online
      @Berklee_Online  3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Thank you! We appreciate the kind words.

    • @LarryAllenTonar
      @LarryAllenTonar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      What were the 20 questions?

    • @itsmarianamusic
      @itsmarianamusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's actually great advice! Thank you!

    • @sarahsavage5447
      @sarahsavage5447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That’s a great exercise. I’d love to know what those 20 questions were too!

    • @micosenor3148
      @micosenor3148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      wrong , analysis kills creativity ..

  • @2cents186
    @2cents186 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1727

    Speed up x1.25 your welcome

  • @mbas97
    @mbas97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    I like how she emphasizes how it's important to have a balance between being your own artist and putting your own spin on your music, while still using this formula as a kind of "outline." I also love how she uses the word "tendency." I never thought of it in that way!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Jake, I'm so glad you resonated with this. Finding that balance is so important in helping us stay true to ourselves and craft authentic songs. Thank you so much for watching, I wish you all the best in your songwriting journey.

  • @LightInMirrors
    @LightInMirrors 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The talking points are pretty spot on for finding a way to make your music more memorable. Adding Sensory Language and using chords as a sort of emotional texture element further drive the message home. I would be interested to hear what changes artists make after a talk like this one that dives down into the core of what makes a song commercially successful 😎

  • @prioryjonesofficial5292
    @prioryjonesofficial5292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It's always great as a musician to have all these tips at the end of your keyboard. No matter how experienced you are there is still room to learn.

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is so true @PrioryJonesOfficial, I'm so grateful by all the resources we access to to learn, and how they can help any musician grow. Thanks so much for taking the time to watch, I'm glad to hear this helped you. Stay creative!

  • @luvpants2012
    @luvpants2012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    There's a huge difference between the song when it's conceived, and the finished product once members of a band or especially a great producer get their hands on it. If you listen to John's initial demo of "Strawberry Fields" just strumming on guitar you'd never know it could become such a masterpiece. But Paul sets this haunting mood with the intro he plays on Mellotron. Then that initial guitar strike from George. George's timing and guitar work are absolutely divine. John's lyric "living is easy with eyes closed" is just John being his existential self. Beautiful lyrics. There's nothing to get hung about in Strawberry Field. Ok where am I going with this. I think we're all way too hard on ourselves when it comes to writing. I can't tell you how many times I noodled with ideas, dismissed them and didn't even bother to write them down. Good writers jot everything down somehow and keep it somewhere. The chords, the lyrics are just a starting point. The crafting of the song is entirely another thing and sometimes it can take contributions from band members, especially if they also have writing ability to make sparks happen. Collaboration with other musicians is never a bad thing but it's difficult because many of us are a bit solitary to begin with. Anyway the mere "song" as written, and the hit song are 2 very different things. Some of the songs we know and love would have never even been finished if it wasn't for a great collaborator. "Sunshine Of Your Love" was initially an uptempo riff written by Jack Bruce after seeing Jimi Hendrix play in concert. The producer suggested slowing it down and doing this tribal beat on the drums and Ginger Baker absolutely nailed it. Eric Clapton added the next section "I've been waiting so long". So the iconic song is actually the product of the band as a whole. Plus some very insightful production. Good luck everyone, keep at it and don't be too hard on yourselves. We don't suck, our ideas aren't being developed or explored enough.

    • @HaHaHaHope
      @HaHaHaHope 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You nailed it. Listen to Burt Bacharach’s version of Close to You then listen Carpenter’s version. Bacharach wrote it but Richard Carpenter made it a hit.

    • @richterry8456
      @richterry8456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So eloquently put. My brother and I will,each of us,often come up with a catchy lick but,fall flat trying to find the sweetness of the next part of song. What starts as one thing hardly ever resembles the finished product When we cut the shit, and trust our Muse's. Good tunes seemed to naturally come together. I should be so lucky if I could get Mr doubty pants to lay off for like one day. The creative world would be my oyster. Goodluck everyone. Happy writings,and here's to original works. 🍻 What may be smheh smheh to some is never bad as long if it's from the heart🎵🎵🎵 🎶 💡

  • @Ruylopez778
    @Ruylopez778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This video is really about a mindset of intention and self awareness; 'by all means dismiss ideas you don't like, but examine it first, experiment with it, and understand how and why it can work, and how it relates to your own strengths and goals, and how and why you're dismissing it'. I feel like too often aspiring artists (in all forms) sneer at the commercial without ever appreciating what they can learn from it.

  • @dav1dc293
    @dav1dc293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Some of the best info I’ve ever heard! It’s like a 27min machine gun onslaught of incredible content. I have to pause it so often to consider everything that’s said. This is so incredibly helpful, insightful and inspirational. Thank you

  • @GR_BackingTracks
    @GR_BackingTracks 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Hooray, another Andrea Stolpe vid!
    More, please...

    • @ethbry
      @ethbry 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gary Reid Music Andrea is my favourite!!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Gary, I'm so glad you're enjoying these videos and resources. Good luck to you and your songwriting journey, stay creative!

  • @joejoexm
    @joejoexm 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is so crazy good!! I've listened to it like 4 times already and I'm still getting new things out of this session thanks so much!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're so welcome, thank you so much for watching. So glad to hear that this has been helpful for you even after multiple watches. I wish you all the best on your songwriting journey, stay creative!

  • @mikeward6865
    @mikeward6865 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WHOA! THIS WAS AMAZING! Thank you so much for this. I've written a bunch of songs and these tools have been a perfect addition to how I go about writing. THANK YOU!

  • @drakeholliday5671
    @drakeholliday5671 7 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    11:18 "Some, BODY ONCE TOLD ME"

    • @tkachenkotaras1
      @tkachenkotaras1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      the world is gonna roll me

    • @redrickschuhart4065
      @redrickschuhart4065 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      YEAH!! They should insert this moment with volume EXTRALEVEL in video. Second JOHN SINA!!!

    • @belle1199
      @belle1199 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh my hahahah I thought the EXACT thing.

    • @AEFic
      @AEFic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL

    • @kruchless
      @kruchless 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drake Holliday full same dude thank you for commenting it

  • @kurdonoid
    @kurdonoid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is one of the best videos about songwriting on TH-cam

  • @malcolmstar8036
    @malcolmstar8036 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you. That was really useful. Didn’t understand it all but grasped enough to make an immediate difference to a song I’m writing and I hope to go back over the lecture to get more. X

  • @sunjamrblues
    @sunjamrblues 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This is one of the best discourses on songwriting theory I've ever heard. Many thanks, Andrea!

  • @bolivar1789
    @bolivar1789 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Excellent teacher! I am gonna get her book for sure. Thanks a lot for the upload!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much for your support, I'm so glad you have enjoyed the resources. I wish you all the best in your songwriting journey, stay creative!

  • @ponkwrt
    @ponkwrt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the most important and essential that I've seen regarding songwriting.

  • @agropsychonaut
    @agropsychonaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome, thanks Andrea Stolpe. I learned more in 13 minutes than 10 years of other writing youtube videos. Look forward to the next 20

  • @KayFlowidity
    @KayFlowidity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    2:15 👌👌👌
    3:25 Strengths
    10:20 Melodic Motif
    13:50 Contrast
    22:40 Lyrics

  • @thisisbiggz
    @thisisbiggz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is definitely a video I recommend to the artist that I manage. Often times especially early in their journey they struggle with the structure of expressing themselves

  • @annielynnmusic
    @annielynnmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many great tips! I loved "don't ask your listener to fill in the blanks, say what you mean." Also to create rest space, a chance for the listener to take in the lyrics. Love that.

  • @Raysmobileonsite
    @Raysmobileonsite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was very happy to find your channel! This is exactly what I need right now. Thank you very much.

  • @johntmcgill6936
    @johntmcgill6936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I appreciate this video ! I love songwriting! As I watched this video some of this came naturally. Or maybe from my subconscious mind absorbing music over the years. Im currently getting ready to join a aspac to be able to collect money as I create content as a artist. Im very excited to join aspac and reach out to other song writers ! Can't tell you how many times I play a instrumental over and over as I find the words. My mom said if you could do something that doesn't feel like work you will never work another day in your life ! Sometimes I try but the words won't come. Thats when I know to put it down and try at another time ! There are many methods and that is a blessing or we wouldn't have the variety of music we have today !

  • @JulianHartwellMusic
    @JulianHartwellMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff, thanks Andrea and Berklee! I’m liking this so I can quickly come back to it anytime I get stuck. Songwriting gold! 👏🏻

  • @ARCHDEACONMUSIC
    @ARCHDEACONMUSIC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome tips! Andrea is a great teacher and I've been wanting to take her songwriting course too. Such great things to think about when we are writing as it just stirs the pot of creativity. Thanks! :)

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting presentation, thank you! I have learned a lot - despite sort of intuitively realizing some of these things. A long time ago, I realized that I tended to use a certain strum or picking pattern for a lot of my songs and I actively worked on changing it. It really opened up some new avenues for me. I look forward to using more of these tools in the future.

  • @musique-in-aspik
    @musique-in-aspik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So interesting and so inspiring! This is one of the best videos about songwriting! Thank you, Andrea!

  • @barianpixandvids
    @barianpixandvids 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the most intelligent and thought provoking approaches to songwriting that is clear and easy to apply.

  • @MarionFiedlerMusic
    @MarionFiedlerMusic 6 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I keep coming back to this video. It is inspiring. Songwriting is something that in my case kind of just happens. It is good to analyse and strengthen your weaknesses. Great vid contribution. I have shared it on to my songwriting friends.
    So yes - thanks for sharing this.

  • @anongoingseries13
    @anongoingseries13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Andrea is wonderful! Intelligent, knowledgeable, passionate about her craft and extremely inspiring and helpful.
    Thanks!

  • @drrodopszin
    @drrodopszin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This talk made me write a check list entitled "Hey, what's wrong with my vocals?". I had so many discussions with singers in my life and now I will have actual things to point at.

  • @StevePhillips
    @StevePhillips 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Could listen to this young lady all day long

  • @SiaNas
    @SiaNas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. So many good tips. I like that she doesn't make hard and fast rules but allows you to do it your way.

  • @lankast2401
    @lankast2401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:49 EXAAAAAAAACTLY THE PROBLEM THAT I'M FACING! SO GRATEFUL FOR MENTIONING!

  • @carstenkottraba2239
    @carstenkottraba2239 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I feel like I would need to watch this a couple more times to really have it down in my mind

    • @MillyThimaras
      @MillyThimaras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ye there's so much in there right?

    • @mcharbo8726
      @mcharbo8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or, write it down. Practice it. I've been stuck in the "I need more knowledge" loop for what feels like FOREVER. Tip: Get some bullet points nice & neat. Paste them up somewhere. Don't watch any more videos until you've worked through each of them independently, as well as combined, and overlapped.

  • @eddavis6860
    @eddavis6860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your videos are great Andrea. I am learning a lot and just wrote a good song using your instruction. BTW I listened to your 2007 album and thought it was terrific.

  • @remotegod255
    @remotegod255 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of the best lessons I've seen on modern commercial songwriting. Truly insightful analysis (and funny!), thank you for sharing, you seem like a great teacher :)

  • @tintomara6209
    @tintomara6209 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent advice.I was a little sceptical when I first clicked,but came away seriously impressed.

  • @danielgarzaromusic
    @danielgarzaromusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Here is my summary, didn't get some things, maybe you can help to complete it:
    What's my strength in songwriting?
    Talking about harmony, rythm, melody and lyrics.
    What's my weakness?
    Identify your audience. My songwriting, what kind of people will like it?
    1. Repetition
    "Repetition it's important, if we want people to sing our songs"
    Simplicity, and rest space it's important.
    2. Contrast
    "In the highly commercial music, there is huge contrast between the sections."
    To create contrast you can use, lyric, melody, harmony and rythm.

    5 basic melodic ways to create contrast:
    a. The phrase lenght. You can do them longer or shorter to contrast.
    b. Position: you can change where the phrase begins.
    c. Shape: map out the ahape of your melody, and change it in the next section to get the contrast you want.


    Contrast in harmony:
    a. Lenght of chords
    ( There is beuty in simplicity, you don't need alot of complex chords.. Althoug John Mayer knows them.. He relly on Simplicity)

    Contrast in lyric:
    a. Change the way you are writing. For example in the verse you are more write with more details, so in the chorus you just use feelings and moresummarized language.
    ( advice: read out loud you lyrics, and make them easy to digest. Also, analyze lyrics that you love)

    Harmony and groove
    a. Change tempos.

    3. Sensory lyric writing: taste, touch, sound, smell and movement.

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for watching and sharing your notes, I'm so glad this was helpful to you. I wish you all the best in your songwriting journey, stay creative!

    • @MustafaBaabad
      @MustafaBaabad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks a lot for this short and valuable comment. Thanks
      Cheers from Indonesia.

    • @chandlerday7772
      @chandlerday7772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As far as sensory lyrics go, I’m having some trouble fully understanding how to apply this. How could sensory lyrics be achieved? Do you know any examples in music that has that?

  • @Maxiideprophesor
    @Maxiideprophesor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good to hear from you and thanks for the opportunity

  • @johngilesyoder
    @johngilesyoder 6 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I rarely comment on TH-cam, but I am compelled to thank Berklee for posting this. Unimaginably helpful. I will keep it open in a browser tab as reference, perpetually.

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi John, thank you so much for your kind words. I'm so glad this has been helpful for you. I checked out some of your videos, you are such an amazingly skilled guitar player. I hope you are still writing. I wish you all the best on your songwriting journey, stay creative!

    • @DaveTaste
      @DaveTaste 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I seldom reply.

  • @jackinzone8961
    @jackinzone8961 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great to watch, made me face some of my own limitations and hopefully I'll be able to overcome them with hard work and dedication, thanks!!

  • @hannahhannahb9650
    @hannahhannahb9650 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Such a lucid lecture--so many useful points. Very competent instruction by this teacher. Thank you!

  • @rogercook8277
    @rogercook8277 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoyed this video. I learned a lot in a very short time. I have been to songwriting workshops over the years. I love being around people who share the same pasion. When I write a song, Instrumental, etc, all the rules go out the window. I write how I am feeling at that time. God has blessed me with the gift to write all kind of songs. I study other songwriters styles, but I don't try to mimic them. Diane Warren, Jim Weatherly, Kenny (Baby Face) Edmonds, Rod Temperton, Ashford and Simpson, Gamble and Huff, just to name a few. Lol

  • @sebastiancommons5404
    @sebastiancommons5404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was SUCH a helpful video

  • @viviantangent
    @viviantangent 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    These tips are excellent! I never thought of most of these things

  • @KevinLicorish
    @KevinLicorish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    lots of gems in this ...

  • @49Macman
    @49Macman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You for sharing Andrea! Pretty good stuff!

  • @Eyetat
    @Eyetat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    She seems like a nice person.

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you so much for watching, I hope this helps. Stay creative!

  • @liamdonaldson6449
    @liamdonaldson6449 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    These points remind me of Brian Eno's "Oblique Strategies". Though less random in application of course.

  • @electricfence61
    @electricfence61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are an exceptionally talented teacher , thank you 🤝

  • @deeliciousplum
    @deeliciousplum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful and insightful talk. Thank you to Andrea Stolpe for sharing their insights on songwriting and a thank you to Berklee for sharing these priceless talks. I have a number of Berklee's A Modern Method for Guitar and do return to them as a source for grounding myself. 💞🎶

  • @tarachugh
    @tarachugh 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I found this to be super duper helpful! Thank you so much!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so welcome, I'm so glad this helped.

  • @mcharbo8726
    @mcharbo8726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Dang I just got the most valuable single page of songwriting notes from this lecture. Thanks Andrea!

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so welcome, I'm so glad you found this valuable. Good luck on your songwriting journey, and stay creative!

    • @johnfisher8401
      @johnfisher8401 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean these types of tips dont apply to so many musicians. Pink Floyd had plenty of hits with zero to no repitition, complex chord changes, etc

    • @damonhinson4005
      @damonhinson4005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnfisher8401 but I'd argue that the songs they are most remembered for are their more repetitive tracks with simpler melodies. Of course, their whole catalogue is outstanding, but which ones get radio play?

  • @janbriggs3387
    @janbriggs3387 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely I am gonna REVISIT THIS INSTRUCTIONAL SEMINAR. GREAT !!

  • @jayrich6532
    @jayrich6532 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    this was so good i took notes

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Jay, thank you so much for watching, I'm so glad this helped you. I wish you all the best in your songwriting journey, stay creative!

    • @acevaptsarov8410
      @acevaptsarov8410 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same haha! Amazing tips! Thanks, Andrea!!

  • @Neringzalt
    @Neringzalt 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    she is very very very good! I love these tips, thank you!

  • @MartinWeeksmw
    @MartinWeeksmw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Band Little Feat were masters at syncopated rhythmic hits and off beat syncopation. They also made ample use of long extended notes (i.e. Lowell George's distinctive slide guitar style.) They would also do the almost radical shift from verse to chorus (Time Loves A Hero for example.) They could maintain a constant groove, but make subtle changes in the different parts of a song without totally leaving the groove..
    Sometimes their songs were complex, but their biggest hits (R&Roll Doctor, Dixie Chicken, All That You Dream, Time Loves A Hero) all made use of all the above that you spoke of in this video.

    • @MartinWeeksmw
      @MartinWeeksmw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Steel Dan was also masters of this as well.

    • @dahlbaker
      @dahlbaker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best live show...ever. RIP Lowell...

  • @EvaAksamit
    @EvaAksamit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing lecture! thanks!

  • @linsildiedar
    @linsildiedar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She is a very good teacher.

  • @mrhelixx8944
    @mrhelixx8944 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely love everything she shared! Wow! Nah... super WOW 😲
    I def wanna find this whole vid! Thank you! This vid subscribed me to your channel.

  • @MrKevh724
    @MrKevh724 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am a musician/songwriter, Rock guitarist, Piano player home studio owner, You name it.Been writng music for 37 years. I stumbled onto this video while looking for something else studio gear related, Anyway I found this video very insightful. The missed opportunities part caught my attention being a rock musician. I would even say that I found this video Fantastic actually. If You understand what She is trying to teach You it can help You see songwriting from a different angle and Me for one really likes that and plans to look for more video's from Her. If Your one of the people commenting below You are really missing the point of this video. Andrea Stolpe, Thanks for sharing Your wisdom with everyone. (thumbs up).

  • @coverdancedina
    @coverdancedina 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ashton Irwin from 5sos sent me here and i don't regret it

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ashton is fantastic, I'm so grateful he sent you here. All the best to you on your songwriting journey, stay creative!

  • @toddhobbs6483
    @toddhobbs6483 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here I am again, two and a half years later...helping me out once again...Andrea is pure Gold....

  • @ceciliaevemusic
    @ceciliaevemusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My favorite part of this is the question, do you give your listener rest space in your melodies?

  • @JimSnedekerMusic
    @JimSnedekerMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a great lecture and takes the seriousness of songwriting up a few notches. Thank you

  • @KenGayJr
    @KenGayJr 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great songwriting presentation!

  • @sn0wsilver
    @sn0wsilver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was super helpful. thank you!

  • @richardlee4730
    @richardlee4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    After you have a chord progression in mind and are working on the vocal melody, try to force yourself to first develop the "hook" melody - usually in the chorus or at the end of a verse. This will usually be the strongest part of your song and so you need to get it down first whenever possible. If you don't it is likely that you will have painted yourself into a corner by working on the verses first (because they come first chronologically in the song) and by then you have a melody that limits where you are likely to go with your hook. Get the hook melody and work backwards from there, then go on to the melody of the verses.
    If you have a C section in your structure, that melody can often be stronger than the hook or chorus. If not, why is it there? If the melody isn't super strong then make the segueway to the C section very strong (e.g. modulation, change of dynamic of the music, maybe some instruments fall away, or another instrument is introduced).
    "Serious composers" studying Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Stravinsky, et al learn to write pieces in the style of the great composers. To do this you have to know enough theory to understand the various components of the pieces. Almost anyone who wants to be a song writer can do the same thing with pop music. it's easier because the music structure is much less complex, and is in some genre format with an a, b and c section (sometimes only a and b and sometimes even a d section but rarely more than that) and so while theory is helpful it isn't always necessary depending on what your song model is. Musically, there's something you like about it, the vocal melody, the rhythm, groove and feel, the way the instruments create texture. And then there is the lyric. A lot of casual listeners don't care much about it but obviously song writers do and should, must. Take the same approach to a lyric.
    An exercise I find very helpful in writing lyrics is to look at a lyric you admire and would like to write like and write your own line after after each line of the lyric model. Don't worry about your lines all working together as a whole, that comes later, just write the strongest line you can come up with that is like the line that inspires you.
    Understand that there are "first lines" there are last lines or punch lines or hooks, and there is the chorus and these lines have their own quality and you should know one from the other (its instinctive because all good songwriting already shows you which lines are which).
    The lyrics in the A B and C section are all different and change with the music of each section. You have already established motif (repetitive pattern) and you can modify the motifs. For example, go from major to minor, double time or half time the rhythm or the syllables in the words. There are any number of creative ways to alter your motif. Listen to Mozart's 40th Symphony, Beethoven's 5th, Brahms 4th et al to hear how motifs are altered.
    Understand that songwriting is not a diary. You're telling a story as any writer does. That you're the one telling it means the story will already be autobiographical to some extent, so don't worry about making things up. Diary writing is bad writing, it isn't meant to be read by anyone else, and it has no place in your song, unless you happen to create a good line. Sources aren't important. Literal truth isn't important, thematic truth is.
    If you're a Dylan fan, look at what he's been doing with point of view of story-teller for some time now -- it isn't Bob that is the "I" or the first person narrator in many of his lyrics. He often has an "unreliable narrator". He has taken lyric writing where no recent pop singer has.
    And if you do have Dylanesque aspirations, READ MORE LITERATURE and listen to OLD time music, blues, folk, original sources etc. If your references are only from recent composers/writers you know/were raised on, you're limiting yourself.
    If you're working from an established tradition (which I highly recommend you do, blues, early rock and roll, folk, etc) then go out of your way to NOT follow the recent trends. By the time you get your stuff out, it will be old hat and you will constantly be playing catch up. This is why I suggest working from old, well established traditions, your stuff will have a better chance of being timeless if you do.
    Teaching song writing is similar to teaching any kind of writing, you can only do so much. ALL CULTURE IS COPYING so I wouldn't listen too much to teachers like the one in this video which personally didn't inspire me. Learn from the old masters as an apprentice should do. Sit at their feet (as it were) and learn. Copy. Don't worry about being derivative. Eventually your own voice will emerge. Know that ALL great composers, artists begin this way. Even if you're not a novice. What did Dylan do when he lost his way in the 80s and early 90s? He made some albums of old folk and blues songs that he loved - he went back to the well, to the source. He's been on a roll ever since. Whomever your model is - they should be great. Superlative. Don't simply use your favorite of the moment. Go to the canon - everything is there you need.

    • @billdaab6607
      @billdaab6607 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for taking the time to share so many ideas. Appreciated.

    • @acoustically9201
      @acoustically9201 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you - a lot of helpful info generously given.Much appreciated. But...IMHO Bob is hugely overrated. Firstly, he's not sold as many records as people think (obviously that's not the only measure of greatness) and he heavily ''borrowed'' a lot of his early work from folk standards that had no copyright. His lyrics are deeply unsatisfying to me, appearing to go nowhere, and rarely follow a metaphor/theme through. They are more ''clever'' and witty than insightful - which is fine for pop, but not for winnning the Nobel Prize for Literatue!! I think Elvis Costello beats him on witty and wordplay anyway. EC's musical literacy is of a higher level and he writes in a wider range of styles too. But on the subject of lyrics, Bernie Taupin is one of the best (1969 - 79)...after that it's hit and miss. Most underrated writer ever has to be G. Louris of The Jayhawks. Beautiful melodies, decent lyrics and hooks galore. Just my 10 cents - thanks again.

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow I learned a lot. I make Hip hop and RnB music! You are amazing lady!

  • @cruedriver
    @cruedriver 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the great insights.

  • @Yadeehoo
    @Yadeehoo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I clicked on this video thinking : let's check these tips so I can go do the exact opposite.
    But turns out it's pretty interesting the way it is :)

  • @kastornorth
    @kastornorth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of awesome tips Thanks!!! 🙌

  • @MinksMiracleMedicine
    @MinksMiracleMedicine 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is sweet, thank you

  • @allibrinkerhoff2212
    @allibrinkerhoff2212 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    She's also on Tik Tok! I love how she articulates things. She's so knowledgable about the songwriting process. Thanks for sharing!!

  • @DRMegaone
    @DRMegaone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Ms. Stolpe. Your instruction is extremely helpful and useful. Thank you Berklee.

  • @axelmusic3970
    @axelmusic3970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great need more informative videos like these.

  • @TrueGritProductions
    @TrueGritProductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson and presentation!

  • @djasynchronous7777
    @djasynchronous7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    your like a song writing therapist, this was very cool ❤️

  • @tazeskipworth
    @tazeskipworth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey thanks for sharing the wise words Andrea appreciate your insight a million ✌🏽

  • @HelenChadSong
    @HelenChadSong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much Andrea that's so helpful and thought provoking.

  • @LisaSunnyDays
    @LisaSunnyDays 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! Super inspiring! Thank you!

  • @IIISO_GHOSTLORD
    @IIISO_GHOSTLORD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    ppl sleep on yall info.. THX for everything u do

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're so welcome, thank you so much for watching. Stay creative!

  • @ELLIOT8209
    @ELLIOT8209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed this video. I'm sure gonna watch it again 👌👌👌

  • @deanismail6093
    @deanismail6093 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is beautiful. Thank you so much.

  • @thirdeyee2472
    @thirdeyee2472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like a Bible for writers ❤️ much appreciated

  • @rodrigoesar2490
    @rodrigoesar2490 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job explaining, i really liked it ! thanks :)

  • @MartinWeeksmw
    @MartinWeeksmw 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When you mentioned "Rest"...melody...REST...etc. the first song that popped into my head was the David Bowie Song "Fame" a a perfect example (co-written by John Lennon a master at song arrangement and texture). FAAAMME (rest little guitar thingy) and the rest of the lyrics. A perfect example and a million dollar hit song.

  • @georgekiapos1
    @georgekiapos1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation! Thank you!!! :D

  • @glendonplaira
    @glendonplaira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video! It helps me a lot as a songwriter. ❤️

  • @sullym1867
    @sullym1867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A lot of thought, here. Thank you.

  • @NaoSakuga
    @NaoSakuga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    this presentation is actually really good holy shit

    • @andreastolpe
      @andreastolpe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much, so glad you enjoyed this. Stay creative!

  • @2bored4life
    @2bored4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrea Stolpe, I appreciate you.

  • @maxorbit357
    @maxorbit357 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a refreshing change from most "Top 5 ways to make better music" videos. Nothing "new" but it made me think a little differently, worth the time.
    I have one question, though, how is it that every song the RHCP writes is freakin AWESOME!? :) ;)