@@PrejudicePotatoe in the french version, after Helga shouted to her, she says " Alright, I'll call you back. There's the fake blonde running me over the bean "
@@a.g.demada5263 I watched all disney movies in french and it's been a few years I listened in english to see the differences or if there was puns that weren't translated or changed. For this one, I really prefer Packard in french than english. She sounds more done.
Watching this as an adult I just realized the Leviathan is the mechanical guardian of Atlantis borders, all that "noise" it was making that Packard picked up? it was probably the Leviathan sending them signals asking for a clearance code to let them advance, the reason every other ship was sunk by it was because nobody else had the clearance codes to enter Atlantis "the legal way" nor the technology to broadcast them back at the Leviathan.
Interesting theory. And it does make sense since it is basically a guardian, its first 'instinct' would be to challenge anything approaching the area to make sure it's supposed to be there. The next thing it would do is investigate the intruder, taking a careful look at it and seeing if there's any identifying markings that basically say "I'm Atlantian, let me pass". Of course, many of those ships were made of wood, which would've snapped like twigs in the Leviathans grasp. Making matters worse here, is that each of its actions can be misinterpreted as hostile, which means that those on the receiving end are going to act to defend themselves (as seen here), which to the Leviathan means that *they* have hostile intent, and therefor, must be destroyed to a man.
@@Tank50us Probably, I remember how in the sequel they said that they had no problems coming through because Milo's friends were wearing the crystals which made the Leviathan guess they're not enemies.
It pretty much the crystals were what would have allowed someone safe passage into atlantis because they did not have any crystals the leviathan saw them as an unwanted guest and the second they fired on it they were seen as a threat.
Now that you mention it, the whole interaction is fascinating for several reasons. The first is how the Leviathan first approaches the vessel. You can see the submarine has a somewhat similar shape and design compared to other Atlantian crafts. It's very fish-like. So the Leviathan must have thought it's Atlantian and requested the identification code with those first sounds. When the Leviathan receives nothing, he decides to gently nudge the ship as a warning and to make the people on board communicate. Modern fighter jets pilots have the same protocol for civilian aircraft like jetliners! There is a case when a Greek jetliner depressurized and everyone on board lost conciousness from hypoxia and the fighter jets that were sent flew in front of one of the aircraft's wings to tilt it a little to prompt a response from the crew after they didn't respond. Then, when the Leviathan still receives no response he decides to take a closer look by directly looking inside the ship to check for life. He sees a bunch of people that do not look like Atlantians and begins to be alert. The ship then fires on him, confirming it's a threat. Great details by the writers and the animators. Holy crap, this movie was way ahead of its time.
@@cristienache739I had a different idea, I thought the leviathan was just simply curious. As milo said there were ships from nearly every era sunk in the leviathans territory and this may have been the first time the leviathan ever encountered a submarine so it wanted a closer look.
@@madtitan0825 I do agree that Atlantis has the most potential for a quality remake in live action. I just don't think Disney could pull it off without it being at best a mediocre knock off.
@@madtitan0825 Disney has been lacking passion lately, even their modern animated films are really lackluster. I mean just watch the trailer for Elemental and compare that to the likes of other CGI animated projects like The Last Wish, Into the Spiderverse, Arcane, the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, etc. Disney is creatively bankrupt, recycling the same story, themes, and visuals for every project. And they are wearing themselves out too thin with these live action remakes. They need a serious overhaul.
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As an ex-US Navy sailor seeing Audrey close the hatch on the guy was heartbreaking because it is actually something we are told to do. It mirrors when a US destroyer was hit in a ship to ship collision and they had to close the hatch on think it was 8 sailors.
Worse over, Audrey is fifteen, that means she had to make a snap decision *knowing* she was going to get people killed. At *fifteen*. One of Disneys rawest scenes ever
God, I never noticed how they actually addressed that people died on this trip to Atlantis. As a kid I was so in love with the Leviathan and the scene that I never noticed that lots of people were lost in this fight. It isn't like a normal kid movie to me, where you didn't really see people die or get taken down on the escape route; it's not gory, but it subtly showed how many people didn't make it back to the surface
Rewatching some kids movies as an adult, a lot of them are kinda dark. In a way, much darker than movies that are actually intended for adults. As a kid you don't see it.
Atlantis is probably one of the darker animated movies Disney have made. All those pods being destroyed, at least one guy drowning, we see two guys being blown up during the Fireflies scene, a prominent character pretty much beaten to death, another prominent character thrown to her death.
This and the opening scene: as a kid I was just wrapped up in the excitement, but watching it now, it hits you that only 10% of Atlantis survived *at best.* The majority of the people were trapped outside the dome shield.
what really makes me love this scene is how prepared and organized the team is. they quickly responded to each other and were calm and collected, even the background characters for the most part. in spite of all that they still lost almost everyone, really sells how dangerous the leviathan was and how competented they are.
All while being scared shitless. I love the scene at 3:56 where we see a (presumably doomed) helmsman confirming Helga’s order; dude’s barely keeping it together. It’s those small realistic moments on the side characters that make this scene so memorable to me. Another good one are the bridge crew at 1:00 Also just realized that the helmsman appears in both scenes. Huh, I never realized.
It's the same trick they use in Aliens and the Jurassic Park films. You spend a good 20min setting up the good guys to be super prepared, the best at what they do, their tech is cutting-edge, they're absolute badasses. And then they come up against an absolute force of nature and their best just isn't good enough. That's why this is so good
Because you have to. I served on subs for six years. The only thing you have down there is the crew next to you. And when shit hits the fan, worrying and being scared doesn’t help anything. Calm, cool heads prevail
I like that The Ulysses doesn't have any plot armour either. It begins taking on water _the second_ it gets hit by the Leviathan, as it logically should.
It's interesting how they decided to show where Audrey is closing the hatch to prevent flooding and two men are able to escape, but one is locked in to save the rest of the crew. Like, this isn't the same as the ship exploding after the escape pods deploy and thinking "wow, lots of people just blew up", this is a much more personal example of a minor character desperately trying to survive, but failing and dying. There are more examples of deaths that are like this, but this moment is a really inpactful one, especially for a kid's movie.
My dad was an officer on a Submarine years ago. He remembers the captain briefing the new crew and one of the most important things he remembers hearing is "I don't give a fuck if its me, another officer, or your friend. If we're taking on water, close the god damn door. You hesitate and we all die"
The fact that something THAT big can move so stealthily is one reason I've always been terrified of being in open water bc for all you know Cthulhu could be under you
Exactly that's why I always feared the ocean because of something terrifying like the Leviathan if not worse but hopefully nothing like that size exist in the ocean but God damn dude I would love to ride on a leviathan to be like look at me now bitchs my robot the shit my robot fucking legendary.
@@Elitesolider1023 well think of like a blue whale. Basically a 737 plane if you cut the wings off and think of how easily one.of those things can swim under you and you'd never know
metal leviathan of course does not exist, but you did have real living leviathans exist in prehistoric times. Compared to your scorpions having a stinger tail that live on land. Leviathan was a prehistoric species of scorpion that would of course live underwater. Grew about the same size as sting rays. A tail and claws shaped just like what you see in the video.
If i remember correctly, the original script of the movie was about the journey in the submarine and included it in most of the film. But when executives were shown early versions they disliked how long it took the audience to get to Atlantis, so the journey to Atlantis was significantly shortened.
@@JackMacLupusagreed, I actually bought the old Mattel toy made for the movie, it's longer than my 12 inch ruler and I painted it, seeing this amazing design destroyed so quickly was a huge letdown
Anyone notice that when the Leviathan first shot the sub the blast was so powerful that you could see the skeletons of the crew members as it went through the hull 😅
Normally, "seeing the skeleton because of a blast or lightning" in animation would be a slapstick gag, like the ones you would see on Looney Tunes or Tex Avery cartoons, but in this film, it is a pretty terrifying detail.
I always saw that as a 'cut before they drop dead' moment. Prety sure the amount needed for it would kill anyone so those sailers were dead men without showing them as dead men. You get me
Something interesting to note is when the ships enter the crevice and go down the tunnel, the leviathan gets a LOT more agressive. Snapping its claws and firing its energy beam at the ships desperately trying to keep them away from finding the way to Atlantis.
@@twistedyogert Well it's the guardian of the entrance road to Atlantis. Its' purpose there is to prevent anyone from discovering the road to Atlantis. Hence why we see the ruins of so many ships from different eras in time. It was frustrated in the sense people were escaping it and it was failing its' duty as a guardian.
Ngl...that scene of just the leviathan's massive robotic eye overtaking the viewport of the sub terrified me as a kid. But yeah, the scene in general is intense. At first it feels like they're able to fight back until the Leviathan shows just how outmatched they are. After that, it's just run. Run and survive against something massive and dangerous.
I know what you mean. Those torpedoes didn’t even scratch the hull of that thing, and its weapon shot right through the Ulysses. It’s like ants versus a Pangolin.
I swear it feels like every character is pulled from a different film with an entirely different animation team, making each of them drastically more unique
@@EurydiceAllAlong Do you mean … round? Probably just makes it easier to reuse/convert animation assets, and I definitely wouldn’t say their faces are “the same” …
My god, I can't imagine how much power that thing must have to move and maneuver that fast at *that* size. The water displacement and currents around that thing alone probably could have sunk every ship down there.
The thing is powered by flying rocks... I'm pretty sure we are several degrees beyond the laws of physics here. That shit is probably so advanced that even by our standards, it's magic.
It’s probably a fusion reactor of some kind. Nuclear is powerful, but it does eventually have to be refueled with refined uranium. If it’s a type of fusion reactor, it could pull the deuterium directly from the water to keep it self powered. If it is using a power source we understand, it has to use something it can refuel on its own fairly easily, since it has been active for several thousand years.
As a kid you don't really notice it because the movie (purposefully) doesn't take a moment to acknowledge it but, a fuckload of people died in this scene. You even see Ramirez close a door on someone, dooming them to drown in a flooding section of the sub.
Funny thing, up until the leviathan gets shot at it seems more curious then anything, like it’s trying to make sense of the sub until they attack it. Then it starts going full-on with the laser.
@@zerofang009 tbf to the Leviathan I dont think the Atlanteans built a giant robot with a menacing red eye, claws and killer laser to handle anything "with care" xD
It was actually inspecting the submarine, like looking inside of it from really close. "WoW! It has humans inside of it! Did they actually build this? Amazing."
There was a cool deleted opening of the movie that first introduces where a crew of Vikings had the Shepherd's Journal and sailed in the Leviathan's territory for the treasure of Atlantis, and were all killed off by the creatures tentacles and blasted a beam into the ship underneath while the book was unscathed, which probably led to it being found in Iceland by Milo's grandfather and the team he hired.
Yeah I saw that on the DVD extras they should have included that just before the beginning of the movie and right after we see the initial sinking of Atlantis scene
@@DarkTemplarlord yes English version had the fall of Atlantis with the nuclear blast in the beginning over the Atlantic Ocean. The viking ship opening was cut from English ver
In less than 5 minutes, we see a massive ship graveyard, a battle with an ancient Leviathan-like machine, the destruction of the world's best looking submarine, a chase through the underwater Grand Canyon, and reemerging to begin the journey on foot. All done with great pacing, writing, and direction to make it seamless.
The Leviathan is more impressive than the submarine what I would not give to have such a thing at my disposal to free the world of oppression he and his kind are perfect display of power.
03:08 I never could understand how Packard managed to somehow sprint to the transport ship in time. Plot armor has a mysterious way of keeping characters alive.
and you weren't surprised how she kept in touch with her friend at the bottom of the ocean? I have the impression that neither time nor space will prevent her from calling
2:27 the PRECISION of those claws is terrifying. Those claws are massive and the left one is clearly designed for grabbing much bigger things but the leviathan positions both of them perfectly to take out a relatively tiny sub pod with each snap, not just causing the pod to crash but perfectly crushing it. And there used to be more than one of these?! holy shit that's horrifying.
Technically the others were never confirmed to be destroyed, we only saw them get swallowed by the tsunami. They very well could still be out there, causing shipwrecks and other maritime disasters because we saw at *least* five of them at the start of Atlantis. In Milo's return, the gang even speculated that the kraken could've been a leviathan that had wormed its way up to the North Sea and was causing those wrecks. So it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility for the other leviathans to still be out there and active.
@@kenzieuchiha1191if only the cartoon series happen as a plan we could have seen the atlanteans use them again against Intruders since now that the city is back on the surface there are probably still societies from ancient days that rivaled Atlantis that want the crystal still and they're going to need every firepower they can get.
A blink and you miss it moment... there's a fourth evac ship that just gets out of the ship... mere moments before it explodes taking Evac Ship #4 with it. Until now, I've never seen it...
@@rebel1717 Worse on that one, he wouldn't have drowned, he would have been crushed by the water pressure or (if he survived that) gotten blown up along with the sub.
ive seen it said and i agree that that woman could walk into Mordor and light herself a cigarette on Sauron's eye, there is that little give-a-fuck left in her
Something I’ve just realised now is that the Leviathan is oddly curious. I don’t know if this thing has any sense of awareness or sentience, but it’s trying to gather information in the first instance. First, it keeps its distance and watches the Ulysses from afar. Then it comes in swinging with its claws, likely to try and test the mettle of this intruder. After that, out come the smaller pincers it uses to grab the ship and try to get a closer look at it. You can even see it focuses on Milo when it sees him. Up until now, it’s likely only seafaring boats that have gotten close to Atlantis’s borders. It’s never seen something like a submarine before, maybe it’s a little confused if this is some kind of odd sea creature. It’s only when they start shooting at it does it default to “yep okay you’re definitely hostile, time to die.” Just nice little details honestly.
I always wanted Atlantis in the kingdom hearts game if for the possibility of fighting this thing unrestricted. Imagine seeing what the leviathan can do when not under orders to protect Atlantis’s borders.
I’ve read some theories like this and it makes sense. The Leviathan has been sinking wooden ships for thousands of years and all of a sudden there’s something that is *somewhat* decent compared to it, but even then it doesn’t last long against Atlantis’ staunch defender.
A nice detail in this is the sub-pods are in a formation and when they break formation they're in packs of two, similar to a US Navy airgroup tactic used in the 1940s.
I was wondering about that - seems like everything they needed was in that large escape sub. Why was it already loaded in there? Perhaps they anticipated the large sub wouldn't fit through the caves so they'd launch the smaller one? In that case what was the huge sub needed for? Overall it seems like the huge sub served no real purpose for the expedition, and nothing for the plot other than to get blown up.
I think from the start they already prepare the small subs as landing craft however the big submarine is necessary as they are planning to spend several day if not week searching the area. Plus I think the landing subs probably doesn't have long endurance and it probably full with truck, equipment, and just sitting place for the personnel. Additionally the big subs also work as weapon platform as they expect something or some kind sinking ships there but what they found is beyond what the subs prepared to do
@@quillmaurer6563 You serious? Where will you put the galley and the like for all those men? You assume the travel took few hours, but it could have taken weeks or months.
@@HyperVegitoDBZ True, we don't know the exact duration of the underwater hunting for the entrance trench. It was implied that it was overnight given the scene in a bunk room, plus announcements of meals. But the need for that is also questionable - could have had a small sub explore with only a few people on board, once finding it surface and have a surface ship bring all the crew and equipment. Someone else suggested that the bigger ship functioned as a longer-endurance mothership, but a surface ship could have done the same, having an underwater sub rondesvous with it.
Why on Earth did the Atlanteans feel the need to build a fleet of these things along with weapons of mass destruction in a time when every other human culture still hadn't started playing around with copper?
Haven't rewatched the movie in years but I believe at the time atlantis was the no.1 global super power and they weren't exactly a peaceful bunch As to why they were built it 's probably something similar to why modern carriers and the such are built, not just a tactical weapon but also a show of force / deterent.
When Plato wrote Atlantis, he intended it to be an allegory over how a kingdom that's also a technological superpower was undone by its own mighty hubris (while also boasting of the virtues of his hometown of Athens). Nowadays people miss the morality tale/allegory part and ask "What if Atlantis was real?" Also, part of the Atlantean mythos is Atlantis' advanced technology being the result of having abundant access to a rare metal/substance called "Orichalcum," kind of like Vibranium to Wakanda.
@@NobodyC13 Well it was a fictionalized Athens that was Sparta in all but name. The Leviathan class was probably commissioned mainly for force projection in multiple areas at once, but the alternative or possible primary use before secondary conquest may have been fighting the beasties shown and implied in the "sequel." We saw a Kraken that could mind control people after seemingly forcing a Faustian bargain upon a town. We saw Coyote Spirits made of sand that could take the form of a man and conscript people into joining their ranks. Finally, we saw elemental giants of fire and ice. Similar forces may have been marshalled/unleashed to drive out lesser Atlantean invasions, or been disturbed by Atlantean military expeditions. Either way, the Atlanteans escalated to continue conquest, culminating in the blast that doomed them.
As a Subnautica veteran I'm shaking my head. One doesn't go in leviathan territory without a stasis rifle and a prawn suit. Tsk tsk Hope whatever they were up to was worth it.
I love the scene at 3:56 where we see a (presumably doomed) helmsman confirming Helga’s order; dude’s barely keeping it together. It’s those small realistic moments on the side characters that make this scene so memorable to me. Another good one are the bridge crew at 1:00 Also just realized that the helmsman appears in both scenes. Huh, I never realized.
Honestly this alongside Treasure Planet is the one movie where making it live-action would do wonders. You can give it 30 minutes worth of content, trim the fat, add more character depth to the characters that need it, and BAM - perfect way to bring it back!
The Nautilus might have attempted something. I noticed it's ram to the left when the lights came on. But I suspect that they didn't have a chance to defend themselves
The king later in the film mentioning that kida would have... uh, "taken care of" outsiders like them in the past. So I think people did make it to Atlantis before, unless the leviathan was built after explorers had made it to Atlantis. Iunno, food for thought
One could only imagine the things the Leviathan was thinking: “Oh yeah? Well, take this!” “Hey. Where do you think you’re going?” “Don’t go down there.” “Oh, my boss is going to be so upset with me.”
2:06 I am well aware of the golden nr.1 rule of seafare: "When you take water in, isolate it! No second to spare!" But I can't help to wonder if the bearded Engineer with the hatch at 2:44 gives Audrey the stink-eye for dooming their third buddy. >.>
I was always disappointed that the Leviathan wasn't the primary villain. They create this really cool monster, it kills 100s of people and is then basically forgotten about.
think of it this way, the leviathan set the bar for both the viewer and the characters about what the rest of the journey will be like. while they don't really encounter/fight a ton of giant monsters the rest of the journey isn't exactly a cakewalk, especially given how few members of the expedition remain.
That would be pointless since he's not evil at all he's just a robot doing what he was made to do protect his people with care against any and all Intruders that they are threatening what's left of Atlantis all the more reason he is determined since they are pretty much what's left of why he exists since many of his other kind are probably dead and the only connection he has.
Something that still blows my mind is that four landing craft? Made it out of the submarine and just one made it to the rally point and still just one of those has enough man power and equipment to be a real treat for Atlantis
They were evacuation subs. Each aqua evac carries enough supplies and up to 100 men. In a event of an emergency it would been used. Deleted scenes show the back of the ulysses being used to off load it.
I was looking up the Atlantis Leviathan on google, and stumbled across a old Tumblr post that did a size comparison of the submarine and the leviathan. The sub, according to the wiki is 382ft, and the post calculated it was over 3050ft. Holy shit, that's terrifying.
I get really fucking tired trying to type “were” and it autocorrects me everytime and just types “we’re.” iPhones are supposed to correct BAD GRAMMAR!!!😤😤😤 (And yes two months after I posted this comment I noticed it, fm)
The leviathan would probably crush Godzilla into oblivion. The 2014 version of Godzilla is the biggest so far, and even that version is less than 400 feet tall, while the leviathan is a little over 3000 feet long. In the alternate Viking prologue of the movie, it’s implied that the leviathans energy beam can be as powerful as a small nuclear weapon. Godzilla wouldn’t stand a chance. Plus the leviathan can freakin fly.
@@ryanzucker8345you do realize Godzilla has killed wars and bigger than the Leviathan right plus if mechagodliza wasn't enough to keep him down neither will this bucket of bolts either.
If I'm not mistaken, there were 10 mini combat submarines and 3 escape ships and only 1 and 1 survived as the others were eliminated one by one, the scene was very terrifying.
yea, pretty standard linear gameplay, get to explore the sub while sinking, right leviathan in the pods, right a fire demon, run from a wholly mammoth, run rock monster over with the digger and the fucking fire fly level was absolute horseshit but it was the only time you saw what was pulling the sally wagon.
2:18 If you look closely, you can kind of see the Leviathan blinking in surprise when it gets hit. I don’t necessarily understand why what seems to be a war-machine was designed with eyes that blink, but it does show a little bit about what it was thinking at the moment. To me, it seemed surprised, and perhaps confused.
The crystal that powers it is sentient why shouldn't it be a little too. Besides in the sequal, kida claims "atlantean [engineers] always base their design s on real animals" the blink could come from that
Well he was brought to life by the crystal like the rest of his kind so I'm pretty sure he's not a mindless animalistic machine he's probably just as alive as any other thing like cybertronians.
Anyone else think Packard figured out what she was hearing long before the rest did? Not like... "I'm hearing a massive lobster robot" so much as "that.... that is not a normal sound, and it is BIG, and it is angry." Like it honestly looks like there's a bit of fear in her eyes when she says "Commander."
I like how unrealistically realistic this movie was, like how Audrey mentioned that if the water reached the boilers that the ship would blow, which is why she said they had five minutes to escape.
@@thebighurt2495 im not an engineer but i think that if the water boils into steam and the preasure of the gas reaches certain level, maybe is to much and the sub probably explodes like a balloon Again, not an engineer, i can be wrong
@Nacho Biosca Well it's just that real life pre-nuclear subs ran on a diesel engine (literally the same concept as a car or tank engine) on the surface but switched to batteries when they submerged. Nuclear, obviously, doesn't need to vent exhaust. But all that steam's gotta go somewhere.
@@thebighurt2495 Same as any other modern nuclear sub but there are boilers instead of reactor. Water boils into steam then steam moves turbine providing ship with rotary motion which can be used directly to power propellers or transformed into other form of energy e.g. electricity. Steam then condenses into water and water goes into boiler again.
2:37 if you frame it at the right moment you will see the crew actually get electrocuted and the farthest guy actually getting thrown from the impact. Quickie a view. A literal definition if you blink you miss the frame.
Kinda hard to believe this is a kids movie when watching just this scene. Oddly enough though, I think this is one of the last great movies that Disney made.
Always loved the submarine and all the machines that they had. I wished that the film was longer so we can spend more time on the submarine and see more of the tech.
Then it should be created by Pandora's graphic designers, under the direction of Michael Bay and with a female version of Tom Cruise as Helga Sinclair. I will not accept anything less because it will be inferior to this masterpiece.
I just realized that with the force of the Leviathan hitting the vessel like that, should be liquefying everyone inside if the sub hadn't been already shattered into pieces.
Watching this scene a few times made me realize how reasonable the leviathan responds to the situation. It knocks the ship around, but it probably didn't know it's own strength. If you encounter something that you've never seen before and tried picking it up then you might damage what you're touching. Its first instinct is to keep the ship in its claws and observe it. It only attacks once the ship attacks. The leviathan followed the mentality of "do not fire unless fired upon."
One of the things i love about this film is how the leviathan stalks the sub before it strikes, staying outside of it view, but close enough for it to keep it in sight. If you catch in one of the wide shots at 1:04 it head is watching the sub as it moves through the under sea rocks like a predator. The way it smacks the sub around few times like it playing with it, plus it even takes it time looking into the sub once it has it in it claws, having the viewing platform right into it eyes to see the small creatures.
If I remember correctly the original script for the movie featured the submarine as the main setpiece/sequence for the film. Later in production, the director felt that the length of the submarine journey took away from the focus of atlantis in the rest of the film after they arrive. I think there was also the prospect that a suspenseful submarine journey was either too scary or too boring for kids. It's a shame though, really wish there was more of the sub in the film
I may have just realised that the submarine is navigating above those thick rock pillars instead of between them. I was convinced that the submarine was navigating within the canyon itself before because of the camera angle but looking that the details on the canyon surface look a lot smaller than the details of the submarine if they were placed next to each other. Although to counter this theory, the size of the leviathan was inconsistent during this scene. When it grabs the submarine using its smaller 'secondary appendages', it seems to be the same length as the submarine. But when the leviathan navigates through the cloud of the destroyed submarine, its entire body seems to math the length of the vessel. These two possibilities doesn't seem to hold more sense than the other so I guess it's up to you guys to figure it out.
Bro I love how there’s so many cool facts, references and theories to this scene alone. The leviathan communicating for a clearance. Shutting the door on people to stop the water from advancing. Bro this movie was ahead of it’s time. Audience wise to go and see it at the cinema. We don’t get stuff like this as much now
Don't forget Titan AE and iron Giant as they deserve better too as they had excellent stories and remember Titan didn't kill Fox animation Fox killed themselves at a stupidity and bigotry one I will never forgive them for.
And no one weren't surprised how Packard kept in touch with her friend at the bottom of the ocean? I have the impression that neither time nor space will prevent her from calling
“He took his suitcase? Marge, honey, I don’t think he’s coming back.” 😂😂😂
One of the best lines in the film
PACKARD!
@@PrejudicePotatoe in the french version, after Helga shouted to her, she says " Alright, I'll call you back. There's the fake blonde running me over the bean "
@@a.g.demada5263 I watched all disney movies in french and it's been a few years I listened in english to see the differences or if there was puns that weren't translated or changed.
For this one, I really prefer Packard in french than english. She sounds more done.
@@hpthfiction we're agree
Watching this as an adult I just realized the Leviathan is the mechanical guardian of Atlantis borders, all that "noise" it was making that Packard picked up? it was probably the Leviathan sending them signals asking for a clearance code to let them advance, the reason every other ship was sunk by it was because nobody else had the clearance codes to enter Atlantis "the legal way" nor the technology to broadcast them back at the Leviathan.
Interesting theory. And it does make sense since it is basically a guardian, its first 'instinct' would be to challenge anything approaching the area to make sure it's supposed to be there. The next thing it would do is investigate the intruder, taking a careful look at it and seeing if there's any identifying markings that basically say "I'm Atlantian, let me pass". Of course, many of those ships were made of wood, which would've snapped like twigs in the Leviathans grasp.
Making matters worse here, is that each of its actions can be misinterpreted as hostile, which means that those on the receiving end are going to act to defend themselves (as seen here), which to the Leviathan means that *they* have hostile intent, and therefor, must be destroyed to a man.
@@Tank50us Probably, I remember how in the sequel they said that they had no problems coming through because Milo's friends were wearing the crystals which made the Leviathan guess they're not enemies.
It pretty much the crystals were what would have allowed someone safe passage into atlantis because they did not have any crystals the leviathan saw them as an unwanted guest and the second they fired on it they were seen as a threat.
Now that you mention it, the whole interaction is fascinating for several reasons. The first is how the Leviathan first approaches the vessel. You can see the submarine has a somewhat similar shape and design compared to other Atlantian crafts. It's very fish-like. So the Leviathan must have thought it's Atlantian and requested the identification code with those first sounds.
When the Leviathan receives nothing, he decides to gently nudge the ship as a warning and to make the people on board communicate. Modern fighter jets pilots have the same protocol for civilian aircraft like jetliners! There is a case when a Greek jetliner depressurized and everyone on board lost conciousness from hypoxia and the fighter jets that were sent flew in front of one of the aircraft's wings to tilt it a little to prompt a response from the crew after they didn't respond.
Then, when the Leviathan still receives no response he decides to take a closer look by directly looking inside the ship to check for life. He sees a bunch of people that do not look like Atlantians and begins to be alert. The ship then fires on him, confirming it's a threat.
Great details by the writers and the animators. Holy crap, this movie was way ahead of its time.
@@cristienache739I had a different idea, I thought the leviathan was just simply curious. As milo said there were ships from nearly every era sunk in the leviathans territory and this may have been the first time the leviathan ever encountered a submarine so it wanted a closer look.
I dont care if it didn't perform well at the box office, I love this movie no matter what
I'm glad it did not perform well. It means Disney won't make a bland/terrible remake of it.
@@cactusman1771 unironically I feel like of all the remakes Disney can make this has the most potential, make a remake that’s less known to the public
@@madtitan0825 I do agree that Atlantis has the most potential for a quality remake in live action. I just don't think Disney could pull it off without it being at best a mediocre knock off.
@@cactusman1771 ur not wrong, it’s just with the right people and passion it can happen well hopefully
@@madtitan0825 Disney has been lacking passion lately, even their modern animated films are really lackluster. I mean just watch the trailer for Elemental and compare that to the likes of other CGI animated projects like The Last Wish, Into the Spiderverse, Arcane, the new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, etc. Disney is creatively bankrupt, recycling the same story, themes, and visuals for every project. And they are wearing themselves out too thin with these live action remakes. They need a serious overhaul.
Fun fact: This was the last theatrically animated film released by disney that included a main character smoking
Then it's just the booze that's left
@@GeneralHeavy Yeah, booze hasn’t had its’ negative health effects so heavily scrutinized. Yet.
That & Mario 2023
6-15-01 Atlantis: The Lost Empire
4-5-23 The Super Mario Bros. Movie
Michael J. Fox Milo James Thatch
Chris Pratt Mario
Cree Summer Kidagakash “Kida” Nedakh
Anya Taylor-Joy Princess Peach
Corey Burton Gaetan “Mole” Moliere
Charlie Day Luigi
James Garner Commander Lyle Tiberius Rourke
Jack Black Bowser
Jacqueline Obradors Audrey Rocio Ramirez
Keegan-Michael Key Toad
Jim Varney Jebidiah Allardyce “Cookie” Farnsworth
Seth Rogen Donkey Kong
Florence Stanley Wilhelmina Bertha Packard
Fred Armisen Cranky Kong
Claudia Christian Lieutenant Helga Katrina Sinclair
Kevin Michael Richardson Kamek
Jack Angel, Phil Proctor, Blake Griffin, Ralph Fiennes, Marcel Jeannin and Bob Bergen Rourke’s Mercenaries
Scott Menville Koopa General
Don Novello Vincenzo “Vinny” Santorini
Sebastian Maniscalco Spike
Phil Morris Dr. Joshua Strongbear Sweet
Charles Martinet Giuseppe
John Mahoney Preston B. Whitmore
Jessica DiCicco Baby Peach
Juliet Jelenic Lumalee
David Odgen Stiers Fenton Q. Harcourt
Eric Bauza Diddy Kong and the Toad General
Leonard Nimoy Kashekim Nedakh
Khary Payton The Penguin King
As an ex-US Navy sailor seeing Audrey close the hatch on the guy was heartbreaking because it is actually something we are told to do. It mirrors when a US destroyer was hit in a ship to ship collision and they had to close the hatch on think it was 8 sailors.
I heard in the case of a hull breach don't out run the water out run the guy behind you
Worse over, Audrey is fifteen, that means she had to make a snap decision *knowing* she was going to get people killed. At *fifteen*. One of Disneys rawest scenes ever
@@galenjones7745 actually she is adult, but still so young
@@user-el3zi8kn5l Someone who is fifteen years old is not an adult.
Making a decision like that at that age will scar you for life.
@@TheFilthyFinch she is 18, not 15 and this decision can scare anyone
God, I never noticed how they actually addressed that people died on this trip to Atlantis. As a kid I was so in love with the Leviathan and the scene that I never noticed that lots of people were lost in this fight. It isn't like a normal kid movie to me, where you didn't really see people die or get taken down on the escape route; it's not gory, but it subtly showed how many people didn't make it back to the surface
Same.
Well, I was one of the rare kids who knew who died. The subpods....Audrey deep sixing the poor engineer.... nemo
Rewatching some kids movies as an adult, a lot of them are kinda dark. In a way, much darker than movies that are actually intended for adults. As a kid you don't see it.
Atlantis is probably one of the darker animated movies Disney have made. All those pods being destroyed, at least one guy drowning, we see two guys being blown up during the Fireflies scene, a prominent character pretty much beaten to death, another prominent character thrown to her death.
This and the opening scene: as a kid I was just wrapped up in the excitement, but watching it now, it hits you that only 10% of Atlantis survived *at best.* The majority of the people were trapped outside the dome shield.
what really makes me love this scene is how prepared and organized the team is. they quickly responded to each other and were calm and collected, even the background characters for the most part. in spite of all that they still lost almost everyone, really sells how dangerous the leviathan was and how competented they are.
All while being scared shitless. I love the scene at 3:56 where we see a (presumably doomed) helmsman confirming Helga’s order; dude’s barely keeping it together. It’s those small realistic moments on the side characters that make this scene so memorable to me. Another good one are the bridge crew at 1:00
Also just realized that the helmsman appears in both scenes. Huh, I never realized.
4:00 Where getting killed out here!!!
It's the same trick they use in Aliens and the Jurassic Park films. You spend a good 20min setting up the good guys to be super prepared, the best at what they do, their tech is cutting-edge, they're absolute badasses. And then they come up against an absolute force of nature and their best just isn't good enough. That's why this is so good
Because you have to. I served on subs for six years. The only thing you have down there is the crew next to you. And when shit hits the fan, worrying and being scared doesn’t help anything. Calm, cool heads prevail
I like that The Ulysses doesn't have any plot armour either. It begins taking on water _the second_ it gets hit by the Leviathan, as it logically should.
It's interesting how they decided to show where Audrey is closing the hatch to prevent flooding and two men are able to escape, but one is locked in to save the rest of the crew. Like, this isn't the same as the ship exploding after the escape pods deploy and thinking "wow, lots of people just blew up", this is a much more personal example of a minor character desperately trying to survive, but failing and dying. There are more examples of deaths that are like this, but this moment is a really inpactful one, especially for a kid's movie.
There’s a scene similar to this in Titanic, and when I watch one of these two scenes I always think of the other 😔
@@alfalfairy That's exactly what I was thinking!
And then those two guys she did rescue blow up in one of the escape pods unfortunately
And she didn't hesitate. She was a professional who was keenly aware of the stakes the entire time.
My dad was an officer on a Submarine years ago. He remembers the captain briefing the new crew and one of the most important things he remembers hearing is "I don't give a fuck if its me, another officer, or your friend. If we're taking on water, close the god damn door. You hesitate and we all die"
The fact that something THAT big can move so stealthily is one reason I've always been terrified of being in open water bc for all you know Cthulhu could be under you
Nah, the great old one is still asleep. Stars ain't aligned yet.
@@scattershotjd9823 I mean, by the time we can see the alignment, they won't be aligned anymore
Exactly that's why I always feared the ocean because of something terrifying like the Leviathan if not worse but hopefully nothing like that size exist in the ocean but God damn dude I would love to ride on a leviathan to be like look at me now bitchs my robot the shit my robot fucking legendary.
@@Elitesolider1023 well think of like a blue whale. Basically a 737 plane if you cut the wings off and think of how easily one.of those things can swim under you and you'd never know
metal leviathan of course does not exist, but you did have real living leviathans exist in prehistoric times. Compared to your scorpions having a stinger tail that live on land. Leviathan was a prehistoric species of scorpion that would of course live underwater. Grew about the same size as sting rays. A tail and claws shaped just like what you see in the video.
One of the coolest vessels to ever exist in cinema history exploded with only 5 minutes of screen time. I wish this thing lasted longer
If i remember correctly, the original script of the movie was about the journey in the submarine and included it in most of the film. But when executives were shown early versions they disliked how long it took the audience to get to Atlantis, so the journey to Atlantis was significantly shortened.
@@PrejudicePotatoepity
@@PrejudicePotatoe
I wish they had released the extended version at some point
Yeah i totally wish the same. That submarine was totally a beauty.
@@JackMacLupusagreed, I actually bought the old Mattel toy made for the movie, it's longer than my 12 inch ruler and I painted it, seeing this amazing design destroyed so quickly was a huge letdown
Anyone notice that when the Leviathan first shot the sub the blast was so powerful that you could see the skeletons of the crew members as it went through the hull 😅
They got Demon Core'd.
Damn good catch.
Implying the beam is also radioactive.
Normally, "seeing the skeleton because of a blast or lightning" in animation would be a slapstick gag, like the ones you would see on Looney Tunes or Tex Avery cartoons, but in this film, it is a pretty terrifying detail.
I always saw that as a 'cut before they drop dead' moment. Prety sure the amount needed for it would kill anyone so those sailers were dead men without showing them as dead men. You get me
Something interesting to note is when the ships enter the crevice and go down the tunnel, the leviathan gets a LOT more agressive. Snapping its claws and firing its energy beam at the ships desperately trying to keep them away from finding the way to Atlantis.
It also realizes that it can’t enter the small area - imagine you trying to smash a cockroach that’s weaseled it’s way into a shelf crevice
Makes me wonder how intelligent the Leviathan is. Was it frustrated?
@@twistedyogert Well it's the guardian of the entrance road to Atlantis. Its' purpose there is to prevent anyone from discovering the road to Atlantis. Hence why we see the ruins of so many ships from different eras in time. It was frustrated in the sense people were escaping it and it was failing its' duty as a guardian.
@@twistedyogertIt was batting them around at first, likely just slowly escalating the physical threat until they either respond or turn back.
Then you realize the Leviathan was right in trying to destroy them
This scene terrified me as a kid. No weaknesses, no victory in the end, just pure helplessness.
Ngl...that scene of just the leviathan's massive robotic eye overtaking the viewport of the sub terrified me as a kid.
But yeah, the scene in general is intense. At first it feels like they're able to fight back until the Leviathan shows just how outmatched they are. After that, it's just run. Run and survive against something massive and dangerous.
2:58 Move!? Where!? MOVE WHERE!!?
I know what you mean. Those torpedoes didn’t even scratch the hull of that thing, and its weapon shot right through the Ulysses. It’s like ants versus a Pangolin.
@@BrowncoatGofAZand it shot even fredi g living out it mouth notstiirls
reminds me of the Shivans in freespace games/ mods
I swear it feels like every character is pulled from a different film with an entirely different animation team, making each of them drastically more unique
And now we get every Disney female protagonist basically has the same face. Ugh.
Milo is a fun ripoff of Daniel Jackson.
@@EurydiceAllAlong give me examples. Personally don't think Moana, Rapunzel, Elsa and Mirabel look the same, but I'm prepared to be enlightened.
@@theguywithsomething8634 you can literally just Google it. Popsugar has an article about it. They literally just use the same face shape and nose.
@@EurydiceAllAlong Do you mean … round? Probably just makes it easier to reuse/convert animation assets, and I definitely wouldn’t say their faces are “the same” …
My god, I can't imagine how much power that thing must have to move and maneuver that fast at *that* size. The water displacement and currents around that thing alone probably could have sunk every ship down there.
He could beat easily a nuclear reactor if you want a estimate.
I mean it also shot energy blasts under water.
The thing is powered by flying rocks... I'm pretty sure we are several degrees beyond the laws of physics here. That shit is probably so advanced that even by our standards, it's magic.
It’s canon that it’s around 2x larger then an Imperial Star destroyer from Star Wars, at 2.5Km in length
It’s probably a fusion reactor of some kind. Nuclear is powerful, but it does eventually have to be refueled with refined uranium. If it’s a type of fusion reactor, it could pull the deuterium directly from the water to keep it self powered. If it is using a power source we understand, it has to use something it can refuel on its own fairly easily, since it has been active for several thousand years.
As a kid you don't really notice it because the movie (purposefully) doesn't take a moment to acknowledge it but, a fuckload of people died in this scene. You even see Ramirez close a door on someone, dooming them to drown in a flooding section of the sub.
Well they do acknowledge the deaths later on when putting that candle on the water in the cave
They DID aknowledge in the scene inmediatly after this one. Apparently around 200 sailors died in the battle against the Leviathan.
@@user-unos111
207 people died. In the end only 7 expedition members lived
Funny thing, up until the leviathan gets shot at it seems more curious then anything, like it’s trying to make sense of the sub until they attack it. Then it starts going full-on with the laser.
Compared to its purpose, it analyzes and tries to scare the Ulysses away in its own way.
True but in its curiosity it still punctured the hull and the sub started flooding. It did not handle the new arrival with care.
@@zerofang009 tbf to the Leviathan I dont think the Atlanteans built a giant robot with a menacing red eye, claws and killer laser to handle anything "with care" xD
It's so accustomed to boats and ships that anything that can travel to the depths of the ocean ought to be a marvel for it.
It was actually inspecting the submarine, like looking inside of it from really close.
"WoW! It has humans inside of it! Did they actually build this? Amazing."
There was a cool deleted opening of the movie that first introduces where a crew of Vikings had the Shepherd's Journal and sailed in the Leviathan's territory for the treasure of Atlantis, and were all killed off by the creatures tentacles and blasted a beam into the ship underneath while the book was unscathed, which probably led to it being found in Iceland by Milo's grandfather and the team he hired.
Grandfather
Yeah I saw that on the DVD extras they should have included that just before the beginning of the movie and right after we see the initial sinking of Atlantis scene
It was deleted in english version? Finnish version that i watched had that opening from begining
@@DarkTemplarlord yes English version had the fall of Atlantis with the nuclear blast in the beginning over the Atlantic Ocean. The viking ship opening was cut from English ver
I remember that scene being used as a trailer.
In less than 5 minutes, we see a massive ship graveyard, a battle with an ancient Leviathan-like machine, the destruction of the world's best looking submarine, a chase through the underwater Grand Canyon, and reemerging to begin the journey on foot. All done with great pacing, writing, and direction to make it seamless.
The Leviathan is more impressive than the submarine what I would not give to have such a thing at my disposal to free the world of oppression he and his kind are perfect display of power.
@@Elitesolider1023 And the Leviathan probably still believes it protecting the empire, when it's just one city.
@@tjjordan4207 everything living thing just wants purpose so does he.
03:08 I never could understand how Packard managed to somehow sprint to the transport ship in time. Plot armor has a mysterious way of keeping characters alive.
There seems to be time skips in-between some of the shots.
She took the elevator lmfao
and you weren't surprised how she kept in touch with her friend at the bottom of the ocean? I have the impression that neither time nor space will prevent her from calling
Bet she took a slow walk as well, had another cigarette as she went.
2:27 the PRECISION of those claws is terrifying. Those claws are massive and the left one is clearly designed for grabbing much bigger things but the leviathan positions both of them perfectly to take out a relatively tiny sub pod with each snap, not just causing the pod to crash but perfectly crushing it. And there used to be more than one of these?! holy shit that's horrifying.
he was using his front claw (meaby you saw too) his rear claw, the one used to grab bigger things where no used to grab the sub.
Technically the others were never confirmed to be destroyed, we only saw them get swallowed by the tsunami. They very well could still be out there, causing shipwrecks and other maritime disasters because we saw at *least* five of them at the start of Atlantis. In Milo's return, the gang even speculated that the kraken could've been a leviathan that had wormed its way up to the North Sea and was causing those wrecks. So it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility for the other leviathans to still be out there and active.
@@kenzieuchiha1191if only the cartoon series happen as a plan we could have seen the atlanteans use them again against Intruders since now that the city is back on the surface there are probably still societies from ancient days that rivaled Atlantis that want the crystal still and they're going to need every firepower they can get.
A blink and you miss it moment... there's a fourth evac ship that just gets out of the ship... mere moments before it explodes taking Evac Ship #4 with it. Until now, I've never seen it...
woah, good catch! i've seen this movie so many tmes and never noticed!
I managed to catch it in recent years.
Furthermore, furthermore, in 2:08, you can see a third guy not able to make it through the gate and is left to drown
@@rebel1717 Worse on that one, he wouldn't have drowned, he would have been crushed by the water pressure or (if he survived that) gotten blown up along with the sub.
The fact I haven’t seen that amazes me. Good eye. Sucks that it blew up with the main sub
someone should give credit to Packard, despite the sub coming apart she remained calm and level headed.
She is the typical “im way too old to care”
Fr though I need that level of composure
ive seen it said and i agree that that woman could walk into Mordor and light herself a cigarette on Sauron's eye, there is that little give-a-fuck left in her
Fun fact: In total, out of the 201 expedition members, only 7 survived.
There were a lot more than 7 who survived
@@willyrieger9573 No, they killed everyone else.
I thought you are referring to the Leviathan attack. My bad
How is that fact, "fun"?
To be fair a lot of them died while trying to kidnap a crystal person and in the process destroy Atlantis
Something I’ve just realised now is that the Leviathan is oddly curious. I don’t know if this thing has any sense of awareness or sentience, but it’s trying to gather information in the first instance.
First, it keeps its distance and watches the Ulysses from afar. Then it comes in swinging with its claws, likely to try and test the mettle of this intruder. After that, out come the smaller pincers it uses to grab the ship and try to get a closer look at it. You can even see it focuses on Milo when it sees him. Up until now, it’s likely only seafaring boats that have gotten close to Atlantis’s borders. It’s never seen something like a submarine before, maybe it’s a little confused if this is some kind of odd sea creature.
It’s only when they start shooting at it does it default to “yep okay you’re definitely hostile, time to die.” Just nice little details honestly.
I always wanted Atlantis in the kingdom hearts game if for the possibility of fighting this thing unrestricted. Imagine seeing what the leviathan can do when not under orders to protect Atlantis’s borders.
Well it was correct about them being a threat
I’ve read some theories like this and it makes sense. The Leviathan has been sinking wooden ships for thousands of years and all of a sudden there’s something that is *somewhat* decent compared to it, but even then it doesn’t last long against Atlantis’ staunch defender.
@@lunerblade13we WOULDN'T get dropped here. It would be the firefly thing
4:20, “It’s only a grease trap. It’s just like a sink. It’s only a grease trap. It’s just like a sink!”
Did you see how uncomfortable Audrey’s face was when Milo said that?
Commander, I think you should hear this...
Commander... Commander... Commander... Commander?
Gotta love Packard and her professional sarcasm
A nice detail in this is the sub-pods are in a formation and when they break formation they're in packs of two, similar to a US Navy airgroup tactic used in the 1940s.
Only 1 resource sub managed to get out alive and we all saw how much gear they brought, it was a literal small army
thats what im saying lmfao
I was wondering about that - seems like everything they needed was in that large escape sub. Why was it already loaded in there? Perhaps they anticipated the large sub wouldn't fit through the caves so they'd launch the smaller one? In that case what was the huge sub needed for? Overall it seems like the huge sub served no real purpose for the expedition, and nothing for the plot other than to get blown up.
I think from the start they already prepare the small subs as landing craft however the big submarine is necessary as they are planning to spend several day if not week searching the area. Plus I think the landing subs probably doesn't have long endurance and it probably full with truck, equipment, and just sitting place for the personnel. Additionally the big subs also work as weapon platform as they expect something or some kind sinking ships there but what they found is beyond what the subs prepared to do
@@quillmaurer6563 You serious? Where will you put the galley and the like for all those men? You assume the travel took few hours, but it could have taken weeks or months.
@@HyperVegitoDBZ True, we don't know the exact duration of the underwater hunting for the entrance trench. It was implied that it was overnight given the scene in a bunk room, plus announcements of meals. But the need for that is also questionable - could have had a small sub explore with only a few people on board, once finding it surface and have a surface ship bring all the crew and equipment. Someone else suggested that the bigger ship functioned as a longer-endurance mothership, but a surface ship could have done the same, having an underwater sub rondesvous with it.
Why on Earth did the Atlanteans feel the need to build a fleet of these things along with weapons of mass destruction in a time when every other human culture still hadn't started playing around with copper?
Really makes you wonder who they were fighting
Haven't rewatched the movie in years but I believe at the time atlantis was the no.1 global super power and they weren't exactly a peaceful bunch
As to why they were built it 's probably something similar to why modern carriers and the such are built, not just a tactical weapon but also a show of force / deterent.
When Plato wrote Atlantis, he intended it to be an allegory over how a kingdom that's also a technological superpower was undone by its own mighty hubris (while also boasting of the virtues of his hometown of Athens). Nowadays people miss the morality tale/allegory part and ask "What if Atlantis was real?"
Also, part of the Atlantean mythos is Atlantis' advanced technology being the result of having abundant access to a rare metal/substance called "Orichalcum," kind of like Vibranium to Wakanda.
@@NobodyC13 I heard there was recent evidence that there was a civilization found theorized to be similar to Atlantis or be partial inspiration
@@NobodyC13 Well it was a fictionalized Athens that was Sparta in all but name.
The Leviathan class was probably commissioned mainly for force projection in multiple areas at once, but the alternative or possible primary use before secondary conquest may have been fighting the beasties shown and implied in the "sequel." We saw a Kraken that could mind control people after seemingly forcing a Faustian bargain upon a town. We saw Coyote Spirits made of sand that could take the form of a man and conscript people into joining their ranks. Finally, we saw elemental giants of fire and ice.
Similar forces may have been marshalled/unleashed to drive out lesser Atlantean invasions, or been disturbed by Atlantean military expeditions. Either way, the Atlanteans escalated to continue conquest, culminating in the blast that doomed them.
As a Subnautica veteran I'm shaking my head. One doesn't go in leviathan territory without a stasis rifle and a prawn suit. Tsk tsk
Hope whatever they were up to was worth it.
💯/10
stasis rifle and a knife, or a prawn suit with a grapple. there are no other ways.
Meh joke/10
@@DavidUtau what was your load out?
@@EvelynNdenial SeaMoth or PRAWN Suit with gas torpedos, 12 hits and you have a permanently dead leviathan as they don't respawn on map.
"Detecting multiple Leviathan class lifeforms in the region. Are you certain whatever you're doing is worth it?"
Rourke is the kind of man who rip a reaper head off for dinner whit a termal knife (I dont remember how the general is named)
Mrs Packard was the funniest character in this film.
You are absolutely right
"we're all gonna die"
I sleep in the nude
I love the scene at 3:56 where we see a (presumably doomed) helmsman confirming Helga’s order; dude’s barely keeping it together. It’s those small realistic moments on the side characters that make this scene so memorable to me. Another good one are the bridge crew at 1:00
Also just realized that the helmsman appears in both scenes. Huh, I never realized.
I'm pretty sure the guy in the right at 1:00 is the same one you mentioned receiving Helga's order.
It is
Poor dude was one of the ones who probably got axed on the third aqua evac. Since the one ahead of Helga's was the two engineers that Audre saved
@@articusramos808 Actually by doing a comparison of the cockpits, he was probably in one of the subpods. Either way, he didn't make it.
Honestly this alongside Treasure Planet is the one movie where making it live-action would do wonders. You can give it 30 minutes worth of content, trim the fat, add more character depth to the characters that need it, and BAM - perfect way to bring it back!
Agreed
No. Not more corporate slop please.
@@DavidUtauRead the comment again. If you just dismiss something as “corporate slop”, you won’t enjoy it either way.
This was the first time anything ever fought back against the leviathan
The Nautilus might have attempted something. I noticed it's ram to the left when the lights came on. But I suspect that they didn't have a chance to defend themselves
I would not really call that "fighting back". They didn't even scratch it.
The king later in the film mentioning that kida would have... uh, "taken care of" outsiders like them in the past. So I think people did make it to Atlantis before, unless the leviathan was built after explorers had made it to Atlantis. Iunno, food for thought
@@onefinegent maybe some of them snuck by or came in another way? The travel actually TO Atlantis seems… quite long in the movie
@@Hello-lf1xs A deleted scene showed Vikings sailing toward a "portal". So it is possible someone at least found it and crossed to the other side.
As evil as roarkes intentions turned out to be, you can’t deny, he’s a sensational officer with unrivaled composure.
Packard hears Leviathan: 🗿
Everyone else: 😨
Packard, sound the alarm!
He took his suitcase? Marge, honey, I don’t think he is coming back
That was hilarious.
0:57 does this sound give anyone else the chills or is it still just me?
One could only imagine the things the Leviathan was thinking: “Oh yeah? Well, take this!” “Hey. Where do you think you’re going?” “Don’t go down there.” “Oh, my boss is going to be so upset with me.”
2:06 I am well aware of the golden nr.1 rule of seafare: "When you take water in, isolate it! No second to spare!"
But I can't help to wonder if the bearded Engineer with the hatch at 2:44 gives Audrey the stink-eye for dooming their third buddy. >.>
I was always disappointed that the Leviathan wasn't the primary villain. They create this really cool monster, it kills 100s of people and is then basically forgotten about.
think of it this way, the leviathan set the bar for both the viewer and the characters about what the rest of the journey will be like. while they don't really encounter/fight a ton of giant monsters the rest of the journey isn't exactly a cakewalk, especially given how few members of the expedition remain.
@@jeremybk54the sequal shits all over this sentiment.
You don’t get mad at the guard doge it’s a good boy doing it’s job
When you realize what the mission was about then you side with the leviathan
That would be pointless since he's not evil at all he's just a robot doing what he was made to do protect his people with care against any and all Intruders that they are threatening what's left of Atlantis all the more reason he is determined since they are pretty much what's left of why he exists since many of his other kind are probably dead and the only connection he has.
This is a movie that has remained forgotten for years and only came back a couple of years ago.
Something that still blows my mind is that four landing craft? Made it out of the submarine and just one made it to the rally point and still just one of those has enough man power and equipment to be a real treat for Atlantis
They were evacuation subs. Each aqua evac carries enough supplies and up to 100 men. In a event of an emergency it would been used. Deleted scenes show the back of the ulysses being used to off load it.
I was looking up the Atlantis Leviathan on google, and stumbled across a old Tumblr post that did a size comparison of the submarine and the leviathan.
The sub, according to the wiki is 382ft, and the post calculated it was over 3050ft.
Holy shit, that's terrifying.
2:33 leviathan: cute but my gun's bigger and meaner than yours *proceeds to zap the submarine with its energy weapon*
Am I the only one that notice the markings on the leviathan glowed before it fired?
@@kevinizaguirre9684 Holy crap, I'm just now noticing that
Same
Christ, that’d be scary as hell to be in that situation.
No doubt that could be one good reason to have PTE.
Subnautica players will probably get flashbacks from this scene.
God the animation in this movie is absolutely beautiful. Also it is kind of crazy to me that Disney made this movie so many people get killed
When Disney gets dark, it gets DARK.
0:46 We were all at that point wondering Rourke was gonna answer her lol
Man just wanted to be polite and let Milo finish what he was saying 😅
I get really fucking tired trying to type “were” and it autocorrects me everytime and just types “we’re.” iPhones are supposed to correct BAD GRAMMAR!!!😤😤😤 (And yes two months after I posted this comment I noticed it, fm)
rourke’s facial expressions were strangely realistic.
I really wish there were more animated adventure films like this, especially with body counts.
Body counts don’t necessarily equate to quality in a film.
The "we're getting killed out here" guy has some strong Frozen background character vibes...
As a kid the moment I saw leviathan, I thought to myself "I want to see this thing fight Godzilla"
The leviathan would probably crush Godzilla into oblivion. The 2014 version of Godzilla is the biggest so far, and even that version is less than 400 feet tall, while the leviathan is a little over 3000 feet long. In the alternate Viking prologue of the movie, it’s implied that the leviathans energy beam can be as powerful as a small nuclear weapon. Godzilla wouldn’t stand a chance. Plus the leviathan can freakin fly.
Godzilla earth would eat the leviathan for lunch
@@ryanzucker8345you do realize Godzilla has killed wars and bigger than the Leviathan right plus if mechagodliza wasn't enough to keep him down neither will this bucket of bolts either.
The Leviathan is the size of a VILLAGE
Godzilla 2014 is the same size as the submarine, so imagine this scene 2:03
I love this scene so much. Great nonstop heart pounding action. Seeing this in theaters as a kid was amazing
Back when animation movies were in their prime. God I loved these.
Just noticed that at 03:40 you can see that there is a ship trying to escape with the other two, but it blew up together with the submarine.
If I'm not mistaken, there were 10 mini combat submarines and 3 escape ships and only 1 and 1 survived as the others were eliminated one by one, the scene was very terrifying.
Playing this scene in the video game version was one of the coolest moments.
Hold up, there was a video game version of this?!
@@erichunsaker4969 Yes it was made around the same time as the movie. I had it for the PS1 I believe.
yea, pretty standard linear gameplay, get to explore the sub while sinking, right leviathan in the pods, right a fire demon, run from a wholly mammoth, run rock monster over with the digger and the fucking fire fly level was absolute horseshit but it was the only time you saw what was pulling the sally wagon.
2:18
If you look closely, you can kind of see the Leviathan blinking in surprise when it gets hit. I don’t necessarily understand why what seems to be a war-machine was designed with eyes that blink, but it does show a little bit about what it was thinking at the moment. To me, it seemed surprised, and perhaps confused.
Maybe to protect the eyes from the damage and dont allow your enemies to blind the creature
Probably also helps in stopping barnacles from growing on the lens’s
The crystal that powers it is sentient why shouldn't it be a little too. Besides in the sequal, kida claims "atlantean [engineers] always base their design s on real animals" the blink could come from that
Well he was brought to life by the crystal like the rest of his kind so I'm pretty sure he's not a mindless animalistic machine he's probably just as alive as any other thing like cybertronians.
Anyone else think Packard figured out what she was hearing long before the rest did? Not like... "I'm hearing a massive lobster robot" so much as "that.... that is not a normal sound, and it is BIG, and it is angry." Like it honestly looks like there's a bit of fear in her eyes when she says "Commander."
Tell Cookie to melt the butter and bring out the bibs, I want this lobster served up on a silver platter!
Load the torpedo bay! Subpod crews, battle stations!
@@davidgapuzan848 steady, boys, don't panic
@@matthewjimenez655Jiminy Christmas… IT’S A MACHINE!
The look on Audrey's face at 1:40 says "I know what I must do". Very powerful.
2:07 Good lord he's dead
Yea. Real dark for a kids film. He’s trapped behind the bulkhead and drowned terrified.
@@Emergency_Procedures just like the titanic submarine crew
4:00 Hundreds of innocent people die, one of the most violent Disney films ever made, likely never to be made again.
I like how unrealistically realistic this movie was, like how Audrey mentioned that if the water reached the boilers that the ship would blow, which is why she said they had five minutes to escape.
I'd like to know how a frakking steam ship operates underwater
@@thebighurt2495 Do not question.
@@thebighurt2495 im not an engineer but i think that if the water boils into steam and the preasure of the gas reaches certain level, maybe is to much and the sub probably explodes like a balloon
Again, not an engineer, i can be wrong
@Nacho Biosca Well it's just that real life pre-nuclear subs ran on a diesel engine (literally the same concept as a car or tank engine) on the surface but switched to batteries when they submerged.
Nuclear, obviously, doesn't need to vent exhaust.
But all that steam's gotta go somewhere.
@@thebighurt2495 Same as any other modern nuclear sub but there are boilers instead of reactor. Water boils into steam then steam moves turbine providing ship with rotary motion which can be used directly to power propellers or transformed into other form of energy e.g. electricity. Steam then condenses into water and water goes into boiler again.
Torpedoes, battle subs, armor plating, guns, mercenaries....what the fuck happened in Iceland?
Whitmore industries.
By seeing the weapons n such. (Trucks, tanks, biplanes, rifles, balloons)
He was definitely selling guns for world war 1.
2:37 if you frame it at the right moment you will see the crew actually get electrocuted and the farthest guy actually getting thrown from the impact. Quickie a view. A literal definition if you blink you miss the frame.
Two guys actually, and they are definitely dead.
@@sonofjack6286 I see 5
@@antonioguglielmetti2661 You're right, there are five of them. You only see that guy in the back left for a couple of frames.
Could you imagine just how terrifying it would be to be in that situation but on top of that to realize this thing a machine
A Real Nightmare Inducing Scene. The Audio Team Friggin Nailed it with MJIONIR.
Kinda hard to believe this is a kids movie when watching just this scene. Oddly enough though, I think this is one of the last great movies that Disney made.
What an amazing submarine! And it even got an amazing choir to go along with it's introduction! I can't wait to see where it's go-
Always loved the submarine and all the machines that they had. I wished that the film was longer so we can spend more time on the submarine and see more of the tech.
Imagine if this movie ever got the live action treatment and did it full justice.
Cheese you got a good point there live action version of this movie
Then it should be created by Pandora's graphic designers, under the direction of Michael Bay and with a female version of Tom Cruise as Helga Sinclair. I will not accept anything less because it will be inferior to this masterpiece.
one of my favourite disney movie
I like Treasure Planet the most, but this is easily my #2.
0:19 The lights are walking.
"Sir, it's Engineering on 4." - said in utter deadpan opening a magazine whilst the ship is coming apart. I love that old lady.
The animation in this movie is AMAZING!
1:21 You can actually see the Aeon Flux influence.
“Detecting multiple leviathan class creatures in the region. Are you sure what you’re doing is worth it?”
Where is that quote from?
@@AdmiralHalsey1944
Subnautica
@@jacksongibbs8998 thanks
1:57 IT’S A MACHINE!!!
2:06 rip that guy the door shut on
I just realized that with the force of the Leviathan hitting the vessel like that, should be liquefying everyone inside if the sub hadn't been already shattered into pieces.
I don’t know if you guys saw it but, before the Leviathan attack Ulysses, it was looking right at Ulysses. 1:03
Watching this scene a few times made me realize how reasonable the leviathan responds to the situation. It knocks the ship around, but it probably didn't know it's own strength. If you encounter something that you've never seen before and tried picking it up then you might damage what you're touching. Its first instinct is to keep the ship in its claws and observe it. It only attacks once the ship attacks. The leviathan followed the mentality of "do not fire unless fired upon."
One of the things i love about this film is how the leviathan stalks the sub before it strikes, staying outside of it view, but close enough for it to keep it in sight. If you catch in one of the wide shots at 1:04 it head is watching the sub as it moves through the under sea rocks like a predator. The way it smacks the sub around few times like it playing with it, plus it even takes it time looking into the sub once it has it in it claws, having the viewing platform right into it eyes to see the small creatures.
I wish they spent more time on the submarine. It's a cool set-piece, but it's only around for like 10 minutes.
If I remember correctly the original script for the movie featured the submarine as the main setpiece/sequence for the film. Later in production, the director felt that the length of the submarine journey took away from the focus of atlantis in the rest of the film after they arrive.
I think there was also the prospect that a suspenseful submarine journey was either too scary or too boring for kids.
It's a shame though, really wish there was more of the sub in the film
0:28 when it’s shown later how big the leviathan is, it really showcases how large that cavern is
I may have just realised that the submarine is navigating above those thick rock pillars instead of between them. I was convinced that the submarine was navigating within the canyon itself before because of the camera angle but looking that the details on the canyon surface look a lot smaller than the details of the submarine if they were placed next to each other.
Although to counter this theory, the size of the leviathan was inconsistent during this scene. When it grabs the submarine using its smaller 'secondary appendages', it seems to be the same length as the submarine. But when the leviathan navigates through the cloud of the destroyed submarine, its entire body seems to math the length of the vessel. These two possibilities doesn't seem to hold more sense than the other so I guess it's up to you guys to figure it out.
3:37 The last submarine to leave was hit by the explosion, these small details make this movie a masterpiece
gotta love the music they really combined with the combat, especially at the firing of the torpedoes
1:58 the reveal in this scene still kind of scares me, but also interests me to. Thinking that the atlantians built this fills me with wonder.
This title is underrated! Wish they gave Atlantis the respect it deserves!
Bro I love how there’s so many cool facts, references and theories to this scene alone. The leviathan communicating for a clearance. Shutting the door on people to stop the water from advancing. Bro this movie was ahead of it’s time. Audience wise to go and see it at the cinema. We don’t get stuff like this as much now
Atlantis one of the few Disney movies that has a body count
One of my favorite movies, I wish they made remastered version of this on the consoles.
I remember being scared by this scene when I was a kid. Now today I still consider this to be one of my favorite movies.
3:25 "LIEUTENANT!!!"
I’m working on it!
Total nostalgia and childhood, this movie, and Disney movies like this back in the day. ❤️💯👌
“Sounds metallic…” Well she wasn’t wrong.
1:58 Milo: Jiminy Christmas! It’s a machine!
This movie and Treasure planet are beyond top tier
Don't forget Titan AE and iron Giant as they deserve better too as they had excellent stories and remember Titan didn't kill Fox animation Fox killed themselves at a stupidity and bigotry one I will never forgive them for.
And no one weren't surprised how Packard kept in touch with her friend at the bottom of the ocean? I have the impression that neither time nor space will prevent her from calling