Who do you like more. Performance wise I like both but character wise have to go with Jensen. Road to 500 subs #batman #redhood #troybaker #jensenackles
It’s funny because once the mask comes off that’s when Jason totally breaks his facade because when he’s the Arkham knight he does sound very calculating and sarcastic just like Jensen ackles
Ironically, they both do respectively better than each other. 1. Jenson plays the role of a comic accurate red hood. A Jason Todd that dosen't feel abandoned, but unimportant. His voice is cocky, badass, and authoritative. His emotion is hidden, but purposefully. 2. Baker plays the role of a more realistic Jason Todd. One that shows his extreme emotion by voice because he feels forsaken. This character allows for more emotion and a hurtful tone. They are both brilliant. Many people favor Jenson because they feel Baker is too "whiney", and the other half favor Baker because they feel Jenson shows less emotion. The truth is, one shows more expression, the other more emotion. They're both equally amazing. Anyone agree?
I like both but Jason is more realistic in Troy's verision like you said. If people would think about it from a Jason's perspective and put themselves in his shoes they'd be just as emotional/upset/"Whiny" as he is. Think about it the one man you trusted and hoped would save you from your never-ending torture and he never shows up, and now he's standing in front of you and all you can think of is all the pain he would've saved you if he would've found you.
Totally agreed, I prefer Beker's voice in Arkham Knight. It is very good. But if Jason Todd in the comics comes alive, then Jensen's perform is more like the tone of his speech.
The writing in under The Red Hood is just so good. That line always breaks my heart; "If it had been you he'd beaten to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage." Batman takes his ideals so seriously, even to the detriment of others. And the way that last line cuts. When you get down to it, from the perspective of the people who have to live in the same world as the Joker... He really is this evil, death-worshipping force. Makes you really understand that if Jason's death won't get Batman to kill, absolutely nothing will.
I'm not talking about killing Penguin or Scarecrow or Dent. I'm talking about him. Just him! And doing it because, because he took me away from you. Troy is good. But Jensen is the best.
@@mightybaloo1880 No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by when I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others and then... end him. But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place, I'll never come back.
@@mightybaloo1880 Ugh just got little sadness shivers reading that line and remembering it. Under the Red Hood may very well be my favorite animated batman. Ragnarockerbunny was spot on. The writing is just so good. and Jensen rocked it.
Jenson sounds like an angry mature adult who’s still traumatized by what happened. Troy sounds like a crying child, but that isn’t a bad thing. Jason WAS a kid when he was tortured and killed by Joker. So Troy’s Jason could just be a kid that hasn’t grown up because he’s so stuck in the past which is genius when you look at it from that point of view
If he was around 17 or 18 when captured by joker, that means he would amhave been like at least 21 or 22 there. 2 years captured by joker and another few building the militia.
In Arkham verse Jason is 16-17 and gets tortured by most of Batman’s rouge gallery as well as mindfucked by Harley Quinn (this happens for almost two years) Jason is 18-19 as Arkham knight. Red hood Jason is 16 and got beaten for 2 hours at most and is betrayed by his mother before dying and getting corrupted by the Lazarus pit he confronts Batman after two years of training and mental preparation meaning he is 18 in under the red hood
Yeah but Troy's child-level trauma matches motivations for creating this drawn out elaborate scheme. He's running through emotions of a child who feels inadequate, and also abandoned, but he can't reaolve it into a clear good guy / bad guy thing. So he acts like a child does - wanting to be near the parents but not confront them directly. The problem with Jenson is there's nothing that would create this long winded drawn out scenario with the hidden reveal at the end. Jenson might return and kill the joker. Jenson might wrap the joker up and catapault him through the front door of wayne manor. But creating this long drawn drawn out elaborate scheme just for the final reveal to batman...it doesn't really match up.
Troy sounds like a young man that’s lost and is still trying to make sense of his horrible situation. Henson sounds like an older man who’s accepted his horrible situation, and is trying to find peace with it in any way possible. Either they’re both incredible.
Jensen Ackles will always be a classic but I love Troy Baker's performance. There's so much emotion in it, I FEEL Jason's pain. If only Arkham Knight gave him a better character arc.
You definitely feel the trauma and abandonment still present in Baker's. It also goes to show that both versions are at different levels of processing their trauma/experienced different trauma. In the movie Jason was tortured for hours and then died, but died believing Batman was trying to save him because he was. But for Arkham Knight Jason was being tortured for months if not *years* and believed that he was abandoned and replaced. We also don't know what kind of mental manipulation the Joker but AK Jason through, so he could have even been brainwashed to resent Batman further. RH Jason blames the Joker and resents Batman for keeping him alive. AK Jason blames Batman and has had no time to heal.
@@kcpugh5601 to add on to your points on the Arkham knight, the flashbacks to when joker was torturing Jason actually show a lot of what you said with joker showing Jason pictures of Tim and in the last flashback joker gets Jason to say he hates Batman
@@johnvat3671 I forgot about most of those flashbacks. I mostly remembered the one where Joker "kills" Jason and how Jason was replying to his questions with stuff like "of course, sir" Thank you for pointing them out
Jensen's Red Hood is the one where he's at the "acceptance" stage of grief. He has had time to sort out what had happened to him and where Batman was at the time. He's had time to process it all and figured into his own way to live his life after all that trauma. Now he's coming to his own and deciding to do things his own way. While carrying some form of honor towards Batman. That respect he still held towards Bruce, despite their ups and downs. There was still admiration towards Bruce Jason held. I wished this was the characterization we get in the comics and moving forward.
"I trusted you and you just left me to die!" 1 second later "Is that what you think this is about? That you let me die?" Lmao. I much prefer Jensen but to be fair, I don't think they handled his character that well in Arkham Knight.
I think the two Jason's are both different, Jensen's Jason wasn't broken like Knight's was. You have to remember, Knight's Jason was tortured for 1 year, fed rotten food, branded, electrocuted, shot, and beat, so I really liked how broken the Jason sounded in Knight I think they nailed the broken Jason But I prefer Jensen's aswell
@@skeepeepee9125 Sure I can get they're different interpretations but the film version was just a lot more interesting to me. It wasn't just a simple shallow revenge story like with Arkham knight. It was a clash of ideologies.
It’s two completely different versions of Jason. Arkham (Troys) Jason was left there with joker a lot longer than Jensen was and was broken from the inside out a lot worse hence why he’s so scared and can’t contain himself. Jensens Jason is more collected and of course is still scared but he just wants the job done. (Like in the comics and how we see red hood normally). However when Batman didn’t kill Joker we see his reaction go from collected to broken as well.
I think Under the Red Hood is one of the best Batman animated films to date. It would be perfection to me though if they had Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill reprising their roles.
well it doesn't help that Jason's media appearances for 12 years since UTRH are 1) Arkham Knight, 2) Injustice 2 dlc, 3) a Lego Batman movie (no, not the big one) and 3,5) a non speaking role in Young Justice. also Titans, but it's live action, so Jensen is too old for that version.
bcuz jensen is an actor and his manager probably prefers to cast him in a movie rather than give him VA job. its sad bcuz i cant stand troy baker. he is everywhere now and i cant stand his voice. its the same in every game. soy baker
@@Wish_Collector yup,voice actor of Phineas but that's the young adult version of Jason. . .Jensen is the more older veteran version of Red Hood.Jensen will probably be cast again after Damian becomes 10 years older.
In Arkham Knight, Jason is tortured for a year. In Under The Red Hood, Jason is tortured for a few hours at best and gets blown up. There’s a clear difference in bitterness and pain.
Plus Jason was an adult when in happened in Arkham, while Jason was a teenager when it happened in Red Hood, and suffered years from the Lazurus pit's effects.
“Don’t you dare lie to me” You can feel the emotion and pain coming from his voice. Almost like he planned out for years, what he was gonna say to Batman, but quickly broke down when confronting him.
I liked the reasons of the Red hood film more. It hit home much harder when he wasn't upset at batman not saving him but the fact that Batman let his killer live. That's pretty much the fundamental differences between them that makes Red hood himself now.
Jensen feels more like the real Jason. Calm, collected, fueled by emotion, but driven by logic. He's unhinged but stable which is even scarrier than just spazzing.
00:25 I don’t know if it’s Jensen’s voice acting or the dialogue itself, but Under The Red Hood is hands down the best characterisation of him outside of the comics - I love how he so definitively and clearly makes the issue clear that he knew there was a risk of him being killed in action and doesn’t blame Bruce for that, but can’t at all fathom why someone like the Joker should live having gotten away with it
I grew up watching the jensen version on repeat. Under the red hood was a masterpiece of a movie by any standard. That movie is better than most super hero movie now imo. Love jensen as jason todd could even picture him as jason in the future. But love to troy to he did a great job.
I'm throwing my vote to Jensen his calm rage and cracking jokes whilst being pursued by Batman and Nightwing plus Jensen played a pretty decent Batman in the longest Halloween part 1 and 2 which is definitely worth a watch and a read
I've read a lot of comments saying they prefer Jenson but I honestly prefer Baker, ofc they are different since Arkham Jason was tortured for a year while under the red hood Jason was tortured for a few hours give or take and then blown up, anyways just Bakers voice cracks and pitch show such raw emotion and I think it was better than Jensons, but obviously they both did an incredible job voicing them.
I think they prefer Jensen because AK's was just a simple revenge story. Batman got manipulated, couldn't save him and he felt betrayed that he was left alone. While Jensen's was mature, he understood and forgave Bruce for what happened on his own and grew up despite the craziness that the Lazarus pit gave him. But at the same time, he had that clashing ideology with Batman's no-killing rule and you can still see the kid that was tortured when they brought up the subject of Joker. Not really about the VA's but the way the characters were written. Both did phenomenal in the roles.
@@rexarsenio9447 yeah, now that you say it I do see it, I think I was just saying I like the tone baker did lol but if it sounded like I wad saying something else I'm sorry
I have to agree with you but I have more a negative feeling towards Jensen, I don’t really think he’s good at voice acting. I think the majority of people that prefer him just like that property more than Arkham Knight. It’s also hard to compare the two considering than Troy is a much more experienced and better VA than Jensen will ever be.
I do wanna add that my negative feeling towards his VA is bc Jensen just sounds like himself. It doesn’t really deviate much from Dean or more recently his character in the boys. It feels very one note tonally but he is a good action actor imo.
@@rexarsenio9447 nope we prefer him because his is better nothing to do with the "revenge story" he has more emotion to the voice not saying that Troy doesn't
When Arkham Knight revealed his identity, it felt so real because of Troy's acting. You can actually feel his frustrations of Batman for not saving him, and replacing him in just a few weeks. Jensen also screams emotionallity, especially on that standout end, where it literally sounds like he's a bout to cry for all the pain he went through. If we're talking about pains, the Arkham version of Red hood felt alot more, he got tortured for a year and witnessed Batman replacing him, and Troy facilitated all that to his acting. But before the standout sequence and before & after Arkham Knight revealed his true self; They are both very calm and plays the sarcastic card. I'll give the slight edge to Troy, only because he acted Jason, not just voiced him
I mean... they both voiced batman as well so it really comes down to personal preference because they're both phenomenal. I'd love to see an animated film with Jensen as Batman and Troy as Red Hood as some sort of follow-up to The Long Night
Both did an amazing performance the weight and emotion in every word they see is so realistic like it feels like these guys genuinely mean what they are saying. Incredible.
Jensen is iconic. I’m truly happy with his career, especially now that he’s played Solider Boy In the Boys Amazon Show. Just shows how fricking amazing he is. God bless him.
Putting my nostalgia aside, Jensen sounds more like an older, more jaded Jason Todd, while Troy feels like a newly resurrected, potentially still in his late teens-early twenties. Both are fantastic, although Troy’s really carried most of the Arkham series hasn’t he?
@Cult_7191 my bad, shoulda said i was being hyperbolic. he’s played, origins joker in 2 games and a non-canon movie, tim drake and two face in two games each, and jason todd is all i meant to say
In terms of voice acting, Troy is just incredible. Like actually insanely good. I think hard to match as Red Hood and only matched by Hamill as Joker. But Jensen is also excellent - I would love to see him do a live action Jason
To be honest I think Jensen showed incredible voice acting. He shows authority in his voice. A voice that absolutely believes his ideology. Then when talking about batman not killing joker you can hear the anger and hurt.
Jensen's interpretation is so good because I can't put his face to the voice,unlike with Troy Baker where it's just Troy Baker sounding young and petulant. Jensen's Red Hood captures the Anger,the Frustration,the hurt,and the feeling of Betrayal that This Jason feels with Batman leaving Joker Alive.
I feel the exact opposite. I can’t picture Troy when I hear his Jason Todd, but when I hear Jensen’s version I feel like I’m listening to Jensen instead of Jason Todd.
@@chickenwing1887 second that. Jensen sounds more over the events, but Troy is still fresh off the boat. I loved hearing the raw emotion in his yells, because let's face it, that's what we'd ALL sound like.
Idk I hear Baker everytime I read over Redhood in the comics. The way he acts in the comics and films fits Bakers voice alot, I think Bakers voice with the calm/a bit cocky attitude of Ackles would be perfect in my opinion. I know most pepole prefer Ackles, But I like Troy Baker as Redhood as much as I like Kevin Conroy as Batman.
I watched under the red hood in a different language (I didn't know English at the time) and while I loved Jensen cause of supernatural I didn't know he was the original voice actor but still loved the movie, I watched it about a hundred times so even though Jensen did a great job the thing that makes under the red hood's Jason better isn't just the voice acting but the great writing. the movie is just perfection
Nah mate jensens performance just sounded like...jensen to me. Troy spoke emotion through his voice especially as Jason. Troy is clearly the better voice actor.
Troy Baker is an incredible voice actor, but even without a comparison just sounds so... _whiny,_ and the way Jason was handled in Arkham Knight does not help AT ALL. Jensen reigns as the true voice for the character. And I didn’t even know what Supernatural was until a few years ago, so biases are not a factor whatsoever.
@@shinkenger2011 Terrible writing? What exactly did they do that makes Arkham Knight so bad exactly? I heard everyone said it's story is bad but I don't play Arkham Knight so I don't know.
@@shinkenger2011 I know this may be asking too much, but list the problems. I’m a huge Under The Red Hood fan so I’m just curious about why Jason’s character was so poorly handled in Arkham Knight.
It's not really even a competition. Red Hood is a person and Arkham Knight is a caricature. Jason in the movie is not upset that Batman "let him die". He knows the line of work they're in. This was always on the table when they run around against psycho killers. He's upset that Batman has allowed the psycho killer to _continue_ running around. On the other hand AK's Jason is a baby complaining that he was replaced. He's whining over the fact that Batman moved on past his grief and has a new Robin. Again, not even a competition
God daaaamn, Troy is such a genius - every time I can hear his performance in the game (Joel in "TLOU", Sam Drake in "Uncharted 4", Bruce Wayne in Telltale's "Batman" or Joker in "Arkham Origins") I am completely unaware it's him until seeing cast credits. What an impressive voice modulation and emotion control skills!
You know I think it’s impressive when people can both act and voice act. Both require different skills and there are plenty of examples of people flailing to make the jump both way. Do seeing Jensen pull it off so well is great.
Well I think for the animation I do prefer Jensen But troy's Red Hood is good too Just hopefully they do not seitch them or remove one of them in their respective fields Troy stays in the games And Jensen stays here in the animated world!
I like bakers performance. I genuinely felt sympathy for him and I wish his arc was better but I love his red hood expansion in Arkham knight. I love both but imo I prefer baker
I feel like Troy has voiced just so many damn characters at this point that now whenever I hear a character voiced by him, I can't help but just hear Troy, not whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. There's a few exceptions like Joel, but like 90% of the time I just hear and am playing as Troy Baker, not Booker, or Arkham Knight etc if that makes sense
i’m super biased but i genuinely think arkham knight jason is my favorite version of him. troy’s voice acting gave me actual chills the first time i experienced the game
I honestly agree with you both of these guys sound amazing as jason. And I'm really picky on what my favorite character sound like. And I think they both do an amazing job at voicing him. Especially since the way Jenson plays Jason, cuz I definitely see him being that cold and emotionless when he's dealing with criminals that he's up against. Because that's everything that is red hood he's cocky a badass and knows what he's doing and is very Unapologetic. While the baker Jason is what I would expect when Jason's dealing with Batman or Bruce. Cuz they're kind of like two different people when you think about it. I see Jason being very emotional and tries to use that emotion as way to manipulate bruise or maybe not even manipulate them but get him to see him as his son and that he is still very much the same person and not this villain that Bruce has sometimes made him out to be in his head. But either way like I said both of them do amazing job as voice actors. But let's just hope that the new voice actor for Gotham nights does Jason some justice just like these guys have.
I like Jensen's more. He feels more unpredictable. In case of Troy's he has evident psychological problems which would lead to a lot of tendencies, making him more predictable.
The Arkham Jason is 100x better than the cartoon one. Troy played Jason as someone who deals with so much pain and betrayal, he captured it perfectly and speaks so much emotion when talking about what Joker did to him. Jensens wasn't really a memorable performance he just sounded like his normal self.
Too bad the dialogue is the opposite. Jensen's dialogue is awesome, thus giving his performance more "Oomph," whereas Troy's is very mid, making his performance more forgettable.
Arkham Knight is most overrated depiction of Jason I’ve ever seen. Just a whiny cry baby filled with angst constantly screaming for daddy’s attention the entire night and throwing a rage anytime something doesn’t slightly go his way THE ENTIRE night. When he finally has his opportunity to face Bruce he cowers behind a gargoyle w a sniper and sends his side kicks and drones to kill Batman for him. He never faces Batman 1v1 but complains when his incompetent army can’t do it themselves and he does this the entire night. On top of this his motivation is goofy and unclear as hell. On one hand he says Batman is a cancer to Gotham and he’ll be a better Batman than Bruce ever was but then also is willing stand back and allow Scarecrow to detonate a bomb that will submerge the entire east coast. Jason literally was willing to let this happen because Batman was able to minimize the blast radius at the last second at ace chemicals right on time. He flops from anti hero to straight villain like 5 times throughout the game based off his rants on the intercoms. Peoples argument to this is that Joker psychologically fucked him to the point of total mental breakdown but for some reason he was able to work with Crane and Deathsroke, train a militia in Venezuela, with 3 billion dollars mind you that he secretly withdrew from Bruce’s accounts with a clear state of mind. All just at the very last second to become unstable and neurotic? Goofy. And the e Jason we see in the DLC is suddenly cool, confident, and composed. This is why I prefer Jensens Red Hood. He doesn’t go on huge rants claiming how much better he is than Batman. He demonstrates it in combat and manages to show not tell that he is in fact on Batman and Nightwing caliber. He single handedly drops crime rates down to an all time zero in Gotham in just a short amount of time but then manipulates non violent crime to make a profit, effortlessly making a mockery out of Batman’s entire crime fighting career. This is the real Red Hood. Calm, collected, composed, ahead of the curb, unphased by anyone or anything and never whines or complains when things don’t go his way.
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Troy is The emotional unstable crazy Jason while Jensen is The deadly calm one
That’s because Arkham knight Jason was tortured for a year
It’s funny because once the mask comes off that’s when Jason totally breaks his facade because when he’s the Arkham knight he does sound very calculating and sarcastic just like Jensen ackles
@@paperplate09 more than a year
@@paperplate09 all jasons were but in the game its more of a backstory
@@xulticzz Nope
Now Jensen voices Batman and Troy is voicing The Joker.
Troy also voiced Batman
@@anvaryusupov8245 damn maybe he should voice dick and he’ll have voiced the top 4 batman characters in my opinion
@@anvaryusupov8245 I can’t escape Troy baker. He’s everywhere!
@@ohyeah2066 Yeah. Troy Baker, Roger Craig Smith, Nolan North, Jennifer Hale, Jen Taylor etc are big voice acting stars that occur over and over
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Ironically, they both do respectively better than each other.
1. Jenson plays the role of a comic accurate red hood. A Jason Todd that dosen't feel abandoned, but unimportant. His voice is cocky, badass, and authoritative. His emotion is hidden, but purposefully.
2. Baker plays the role of a more realistic Jason Todd. One that shows his extreme emotion by voice because he feels forsaken. This character allows for more emotion and a hurtful tone.
They are both brilliant. Many people favor Jenson because they feel Baker is too "whiney", and the other half favor Baker because they feel Jenson shows less emotion. The truth is, one shows more expression, the other more emotion. They're both equally amazing.
Anyone agree?
I like both but Jason is more realistic in Troy's verision like you said. If people would think about it from a Jason's perspective and put themselves in his shoes they'd be just as emotional/upset/"Whiny" as he is. Think about it the one man you trusted and hoped would save you from your never-ending torture and he never shows up, and now he's standing in front of you and all you can think of is all the pain he would've saved you if he would've found you.
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Totally agreed, I prefer Beker's voice in Arkham Knight. It is very good. But if Jason Todd in the comics comes alive, then Jensen's perform is more like the tone of his speech.
Yeah they are. In my opinion tho I feel like Baker’s voice fits better
Took the words right from my brain
The writing in under The Red Hood is just so good. That line always breaks my heart; "If it had been you he'd beaten to a bloody pulp, if he had taken you from this world, I would have done nothing but search the planet for this pathetic pile of evil, death-worshipping garbage."
Batman takes his ideals so seriously, even to the detriment of others. And the way that last line cuts. When you get down to it, from the perspective of the people who have to live in the same world as the Joker... He really is this evil, death-worshipping force. Makes you really understand that if Jason's death won't get Batman to kill, absolutely nothing will.
When Jason says "I thought I'd be the last one he hurts (kills)" was legit heart breaking
I'm not talking about killing Penguin or Scarecrow or Dent. I'm talking about him. Just him! And doing it because, because he took me away from you.
Troy is good. But Jensen is the best.
@@mightybaloo1880 No! God Almighty, no. It'd be too damned easy. All I've ever wanted to do is kill him. A day doesn't go by when I don't think about subjecting him to every horrendous torture he's dealt out to others and then... end him.
But if I do that, if I allow myself to go down into that place, I'll never come back.
@@mightybaloo1880 Ugh just got little sadness shivers reading that line and remembering it. Under the Red Hood may very well be my favorite animated batman. Ragnarockerbunny was spot on. The writing is just so good. and Jensen rocked it.
When Dc gets their shit together they can make some really amazing animated stuff and also Peacemaker.
I love how everyone is finding this video now because Jensen Ackles is trending after The Boys Season 3. 🤣🤣🤣
Not of fan of the boys but I am a fan of Jensen Ackles.
I didn’t even know he voiced Jason Todd in under the red Hood
@@nawab256 he also voices batman in a animated movie, forgot which one tho
LOL
Is anyone here a fan of the supernatural?
Jenson sounds like an angry mature adult who’s still traumatized by what happened. Troy sounds like a crying child, but that isn’t a bad thing. Jason WAS a kid when he was tortured and killed by Joker. So Troy’s Jason could just be a kid that hasn’t grown up because he’s so stuck in the past which is genius when you look at it from that point of view
If he was around 17 or 18 when captured by joker, that means he would amhave been like at least 21 or 22 there. 2 years captured by joker and another few building the militia.
Or maybe he was a kid when it happened, grew up, and is just still traumatized. I don’t see Arkham Jason as any kind of kid
Jason wasn’t killed in Arkham verse
In Arkham verse Jason is 16-17 and gets tortured by most of Batman’s rouge gallery as well as mindfucked by Harley Quinn (this happens for almost two years) Jason is 18-19 as Arkham knight. Red hood Jason is 16 and got beaten for 2 hours at most and is betrayed by his mother before dying and getting corrupted by the Lazarus pit he confronts Batman after two years of training and mental preparation meaning he is 18 in under the red hood
Yeah but Troy's child-level trauma matches motivations for creating this drawn out elaborate scheme. He's running through emotions of a child who feels inadequate, and also abandoned, but he can't reaolve it into a clear good guy / bad guy thing. So he acts like a child does - wanting to be near the parents but not confront them directly.
The problem with Jenson is there's nothing that would create this long winded drawn out scenario with the hidden reveal at the end. Jenson might return and kill the joker. Jenson might wrap the joker up and catapault him through the front door of wayne manor.
But creating this long drawn drawn out elaborate scheme just for the final reveal to batman...it doesn't really match up.
Troy sounds like a young man that’s lost and is still trying to make sense of his horrible situation. Henson sounds like an older man who’s accepted his horrible situation, and is trying to find peace with it in any way possible. Either they’re both incredible.
On bro u hit it on da head
I prefer Jensen’s in terms of how he was written, but they are equally great performances from the actors
Jensen Ackles will always be a classic but I love Troy Baker's performance. There's so much emotion in it, I FEEL Jason's pain. If only Arkham Knight gave him a better character arc.
And actually had fights against the Arkham knight.
One of those animated characters that has two legendary voice actors
You definitely feel the trauma and abandonment still present in Baker's. It also goes to show that both versions are at different levels of processing their trauma/experienced different trauma. In the movie Jason was tortured for hours and then died, but died believing Batman was trying to save him because he was. But for Arkham Knight Jason was being tortured for months if not *years* and believed that he was abandoned and replaced. We also don't know what kind of mental manipulation the Joker but AK Jason through, so he could have even been brainwashed to resent Batman further. RH Jason blames the Joker and resents Batman for keeping him alive. AK Jason blames Batman and has had no time to heal.
@@kcpugh5601 to add on to your points on the Arkham knight, the flashbacks to when joker was torturing Jason actually show a lot of what you said with joker showing Jason pictures of Tim and in the last flashback joker gets Jason to say he hates Batman
@@johnvat3671 I forgot about most of those flashbacks. I mostly remembered the one where Joker "kills" Jason and how Jason was replying to his questions with stuff like "of course, sir" Thank you for pointing them out
Jensen's Red Hood is the one where he's at the "acceptance" stage of grief. He has had time to sort out what had happened to him and where Batman was at the time. He's had time to process it all and figured into his own way to live his life after all that trauma. Now he's coming to his own and deciding to do things his own way. While carrying some form of honor towards Batman. That respect he still held towards Bruce, despite their ups and downs. There was still admiration towards Bruce Jason held. I wished this was the characterization we get in the comics and moving forward.
"I trusted you and you just left me to die!"
1 second later
"Is that what you think this is about? That you let me die?"
Lmao. I much prefer Jensen but to be fair, I don't think they handled his character that well in Arkham Knight.
I was hoping someone would catch that 😁.
I think the two Jason's are both different, Jensen's Jason wasn't broken like Knight's was.
You have to remember, Knight's Jason was tortured for 1 year, fed rotten food, branded, electrocuted, shot, and beat, so I really liked how broken the Jason sounded in Knight
I think they nailed the broken Jason
But I prefer Jensen's aswell
@@skeepeepee9125 Sure I can get they're different interpretations but the film version was just a lot more interesting to me. It wasn't just a simple shallow revenge story like with Arkham knight. It was a clash of ideologies.
It’s two completely different versions of Jason.
Arkham (Troys) Jason was left there with joker a lot longer than Jensen was and was broken from the inside out a lot worse hence why he’s so scared and can’t contain himself.
Jensens Jason is more collected and of course is still scared but he just wants the job done. (Like in the comics and how we see red hood normally). However when Batman didn’t kill Joker we see his reaction go from collected to broken as well.
I think Under the Red Hood is one of the best Batman animated films to date. It would be perfection to me though if they had Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill reprising their roles.
So is Troy Baker just going to start voicing the whole DC Universe now?
The christopher sabat of DC
Jensen put so much emotion into the character its unbelievable that he doesn’t voice him all the time...wish he did
well it doesn't help that Jason's media appearances for 12 years since UTRH are 1) Arkham Knight, 2) Injustice 2 dlc, 3) a Lego Batman movie (no, not the big one) and 3,5) a non speaking role in Young Justice.
also Titans, but it's live action, so Jensen is too old for that version.
@@He11Jumper that lego Batman movie was so underrated 😭😭 i loved jason in it
Same, I wish he voices Jason as many times as Kevin Conroy voices Batman
bcuz jensen is an actor and his manager probably prefers to cast him in a movie rather than give him VA job. its sad bcuz i cant stand troy baker. he is everywhere now and i cant stand his voice. its the same in every game. soy baker
@@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2ittrue dat
Please let there be a new Red Hood movie where Jensen voices Jason Todd.
Didn't Jensen voice him in Under The Red Hood
@@jaytoonz5736 yea but in the death of family he didnt voice Jason but the voice actor of pheneas us ( couldn't remember his name)
@@Wish_Collector yup,voice actor of Phineas but that's the young adult version of Jason. . .Jensen is the more older veteran version of Red Hood.Jensen will probably be cast again after Damian becomes 10 years older.
now hes batman
He voices Batman in the Long Halloween movie and I couldn’t be more excited to see how he does
In Arkham Knight, Jason is tortured for a year. In Under The Red Hood, Jason is tortured for a few hours at best and gets blown up.
There’s a clear difference in bitterness and pain.
Plus Jason was an adult when in happened in Arkham, while Jason was a teenager when it happened in Red Hood, and suffered years from the Lazurus pit's effects.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 arkham jason was only 15 when it happened
@@willfanofmanyii3751 that doesn't really add on to the point the comment was stating
Thought it was around 2 years
Under the red hood is the canon one
“Don’t you dare lie to me” You can feel the emotion and pain coming from his voice. Almost like he planned out for years, what he was gonna say to Batman, but quickly broke down when confronting him.
Troy is filled with revenge, Jensen is filled with rage. Both iconic.
I liked the reasons of the Red hood film more. It hit home much harder when he wasn't upset at batman not saving him but the fact that Batman let his killer live. That's pretty much the fundamental differences between them that makes Red hood himself now.
Don’t let this comparison video distract you from the fact that both of these guys are super talented, fucking awesome, underrated actors.
For real.
Jensen feels more like the real Jason. Calm, collected, fueled by emotion, but driven by logic. He's unhinged but stable which is even scarrier than just spazzing.
A man who can direct his rage and anger properly is one of the most dangerous individuals on a battlefield
00:25 I don’t know if it’s Jensen’s voice acting or the dialogue itself, but Under The Red Hood is hands down the best characterisation of him outside of the comics - I love how he so definitively and clearly makes the issue clear that he knew there was a risk of him being killed in action and doesn’t blame Bruce for that, but can’t at all fathom why someone like the Joker should live having gotten away with it
I grew up watching the jensen version on repeat. Under the red hood was a masterpiece of a movie by any standard. That movie is better than most super hero movie now imo. Love jensen as jason todd could even picture him as jason in the future. But love to troy to he did a great job.
“Buddy, you think you look strong? You’re wearing a cape.” - some other Jensen
I'm throwing my vote to Jensen his calm rage and cracking jokes whilst being pursued by Batman and Nightwing plus Jensen played a pretty decent Batman in the longest Halloween part 1 and 2 which is definitely worth a watch and a read
Troy kills it. Dudes a goat voice actor for a reason
Both are incredible in their own ways!
I've read a lot of comments saying they prefer Jenson but I honestly prefer Baker, ofc they are different since Arkham Jason was tortured for a year while under the red hood Jason was tortured for a few hours give or take and then blown up, anyways just Bakers voice cracks and pitch show such raw emotion and I think it was better than Jensons, but obviously they both did an incredible job voicing them.
I think they prefer Jensen because AK's was just a simple revenge story. Batman got manipulated, couldn't save him and he felt betrayed that he was left alone. While Jensen's was mature, he understood and forgave Bruce for what happened on his own and grew up despite the craziness that the Lazarus pit gave him. But at the same time, he had that clashing ideology with Batman's no-killing rule and you can still see the kid that was tortured when they brought up the subject of Joker.
Not really about the VA's but the way the characters were written. Both did phenomenal in the roles.
@@rexarsenio9447 yeah, now that you say it I do see it, I think I was just saying I like the tone baker did lol but if it sounded like I wad saying something else I'm sorry
I have to agree with you but I have more a negative feeling towards Jensen, I don’t really think he’s good at voice acting. I think the majority of people that prefer him just like that property more than Arkham Knight. It’s also hard to compare the two considering than Troy is a much more experienced and better VA than Jensen will ever be.
I do wanna add that my negative feeling towards his VA is bc Jensen just sounds like himself. It doesn’t really deviate much from Dean or more recently his character in the boys. It feels very one note tonally but he is a good action actor imo.
@@rexarsenio9447 nope we prefer him because his is better nothing to do with the "revenge story" he has more emotion to the voice not saying that Troy doesn't
Man, I love Troy Baker, but I just cannot pick him over Jensen Ackles.
Side note: Jensen Ackles should be cast as a live action Red Hood too.
I totally agree I know he is pretty old to be playing a someone of that age but honestly I don’t really mind I rather him then anyone else
@@ghost.3083 he can player an aged up jason
He also cosplayed red hood a few years ago too.
Kevin Conroy best batman, Mark Hamill best joker, and best red hood is Jensen ackles
Nolan North-Best Penguin
And fun fact Troy baker has played all those characters
@@da5hainy556What about Tom Kenny as Penguin?!
When Arkham Knight revealed his identity, it felt so real because of Troy's acting. You can actually feel his frustrations of Batman for not saving him, and replacing him in just a few weeks. Jensen also screams emotionallity, especially on that standout end, where it literally sounds like he's a bout to cry for all the pain he went through. If we're talking about pains, the Arkham version of Red hood felt alot more, he got tortured for a year and witnessed Batman replacing him, and Troy facilitated all that to his acting. But before the standout sequence and before & after Arkham Knight revealed his true self; They are both very calm
and plays the sarcastic card. I'll give the slight edge to Troy, only because he acted Jason, not just voiced him
I mean... they both voiced batman as well so it really comes down to personal preference because they're both phenomenal. I'd love to see an animated film with Jensen as Batman and Troy as Red Hood as some sort of follow-up to The Long Night
Both did an amazing performance the weight and emotion in every word they see is so realistic like it feels like these guys genuinely mean what they are saying. Incredible.
As much as I love Jensen, I'd rlly have to give it to Troy cuz he sounds really unhinged and unstable
Jensen Ackles from Supernatural Hunter to A Serial Killer, to an Anti Villain, to freaking Soulja Boy
Soldier Boy 😂😂😂😂
Troy got this one in the bag. Hes just too damn good and the emotion of that scene just cements how good he did
Jensen Ackles
Jensen is iconic. I’m truly happy with his career, especially now that he’s played Solider Boy In the Boys Amazon Show. Just shows how fricking amazing he is. God bless him.
I love troy but arkham knight's jason was so misrepresented
jensen ackles
Putting my nostalgia aside, Jensen sounds more like an older, more jaded Jason Todd, while Troy feels like a newly resurrected, potentially still in his late teens-early twenties. Both are fantastic, although Troy’s really carried most of the Arkham series hasn’t he?
Troy Baker literally played one too many characters than he should. Arkham Origins Young Joker was good enough.
@@mortem0092 he did a fantastic job as jason todd idk what u mean
@@cerventiss What I mean is that my dick played Jason better
@Cult_7191 my bad, shoulda said i was being hyperbolic. he’s played, origins joker in 2 games and a non-canon movie, tim drake and two face in two games each, and jason todd is all i meant to say
In terms of voice acting, Troy is just incredible. Like actually insanely good. I think hard to match as Red Hood and only matched by Hamill as Joker.
But Jensen is also excellent - I would love to see him do a live action Jason
To be honest I think Jensen showed incredible voice acting. He shows authority in his voice. A voice that absolutely believes his ideology. Then when talking about batman not killing joker you can hear the anger and hurt.
I prefer Jensen’s version, not just in the voice acting, but the writing as well.
Jensen ackles is the red hood
More like Batman now
Jensen's interpretation is so good because I can't put his face to the voice,unlike with Troy Baker where it's just Troy Baker sounding young and petulant.
Jensen's Red Hood captures the Anger,the Frustration,the hurt,and the feeling of Betrayal that This Jason feels with Batman leaving Joker Alive.
Going to have to disagree with you on the hurt and betrayal part.
I feel the exact opposite. I can’t picture Troy when I hear his Jason Todd, but when I hear Jensen’s version I feel like I’m listening to Jensen instead of Jason Todd.
@@chickenwing1887 second that. Jensen sounds more over the events, but Troy is still fresh off the boat. I loved hearing the raw emotion in his yells, because let's face it, that's what we'd ALL sound like.
both r great
Idk I hear Baker everytime I read over Redhood in the comics. The way he acts in the comics and films fits Bakers voice alot, I think Bakers voice with the calm/a bit cocky attitude of Ackles would be perfect in my opinion. I know most pepole prefer Ackles, But I like Troy Baker as Redhood as much as I like Kevin Conroy as Batman.
I watched under the red hood in a different language (I didn't know English at the time) and while I loved Jensen cause of supernatural I didn't know he was the original voice actor but still loved the movie, I watched it about a hundred times so even though Jensen did a great job the thing that makes under the red hood's Jason better isn't just the voice acting but the great writing. the movie is just perfection
Jensen Ackles has more emotion to his performance, and a better written story.
Nah mate jensens performance just sounded like...jensen to me. Troy spoke emotion through his voice especially as Jason. Troy is clearly the better voice actor.
@@BiscuitKilla02 Yeah Troy has been doing it for years. He could voice any character at this point.
@@BiscuitKilla02 agreed Baker is one of the GOATs in voice acting
Jensen is the best for batman and redhood
He should’ve voiced redhood in Arkham Knight
Troy Baker is an incredible voice actor, but even without a comparison just sounds so... _whiny,_ and the way Jason was handled in Arkham Knight does not help AT ALL. Jensen reigns as the true voice for the character. And I didn’t even know what Supernatural was until a few years ago, so biases are not a factor whatsoever.
Jensen should’ve voiced redhood in Arkham Knight
@@majidaljaburi7870 I wish I could agree, but even he wouldn’t be able to save the terrible writing..
@@shinkenger2011 Terrible writing? What exactly did they do that makes Arkham Knight so bad exactly? I heard everyone said it's story is bad but I don't play Arkham Knight so I don't know.
@@BlossomPathOnStage15 I shìt you not, there are just too many problems for me to list.
@@shinkenger2011 I know this may be asking too much, but list the problems. I’m a huge Under The Red Hood fan so I’m just curious about why Jason’s character was so poorly handled in Arkham Knight.
It's not really even a competition. Red Hood is a person and Arkham Knight is a caricature. Jason in the movie is not upset that Batman "let him die". He knows the line of work they're in. This was always on the table when they run around against psycho killers. He's upset that Batman has allowed the psycho killer to _continue_ running around.
On the other hand AK's Jason is a baby complaining that he was replaced. He's whining over the fact that Batman moved on past his grief and has a new Robin.
Again, not even a competition
I agree.
This video needs to be in every acting or voice-acting class. Both are amazing, while being notably different versions of the same character.
Both great man!!
God daaaamn, Troy is such a genius - every time I can hear his performance in the game (Joel in "TLOU", Sam Drake in "Uncharted 4", Bruce Wayne in Telltale's "Batman" or Joker in "Arkham Origins") I am completely unaware it's him until seeing cast credits. What an impressive voice modulation and emotion control skills!
My favorite role of his was Jazz in Trandsformers: Fall of Cybertron, it really is impressive what he can do with his voice
You know I think it’s impressive when people can both act and voice act. Both require different skills and there are plenty of examples of people flailing to make the jump both way. Do seeing Jensen pull it off so well is great.
The “I’m hurt” line had me on my knees
I prefer Jensen's voice but seeing as Jason's supposed to be in his late teens to early twenties, I think Troy's is more age appropriate.
They both did such great jobs. It's so great that now Jensen is voicing Batman.
Honestly I have a hard time even imagining that as ackles voice, it’s a lot higher than in the boys
its probably because under the red hood was made 12 years ago
@@handleislol yeah true
I had no idea Jensen voiced Red Hood in UtH. I like him as Dean Winchester from Supernatural. Good stuff.
They’re both great voice actors!
Well I think for the animation I do prefer Jensen
But troy's Red Hood is good too
Just hopefully they do not seitch them or remove one of them in their respective fields
Troy stays in the games
And Jensen stays here in the animated world!
Hush should be the arkham knight so manny twists and turns
They’re both SO good 😩
Both are incredible
jensen has that pure fucking rage that youd imagine jason todd to have, especially after batman let the joker live after what he did to jason
And now the two are in The Long Halloween.
Bruh, what a twist. 😂
Both amazing actors showing both his anger and understanding!
Both of them are so incredible.
I like bakers performance. I genuinely felt sympathy for him and I wish his arc was better but I love his red hood expansion in Arkham knight. I love both but imo I prefer baker
Hands down Soldier Boy wins
They're both sooooo good!
Both sounds amazing. 👌
With troy baker I felt the emotion and pain in his voice to the very core
I prefer Jensen. Maybe it’s because i hear Troy‘s voice *everywhere* and am getting sick of hearing him, but Jensen truly sounds emotionally hurt.
Troy is overrated. He gets cast alot and doesn't do much to change his voice often and just play varying degrees of Troy Baker.
@@Notarealchannelok I agree,it's either "country" voice Troy,or gruff Troy,or overly emotional yelling Troy.
Both do such a good at bring the Red Hood to life!!!
both did the best version they can do 😍 and i love them both
I feel like Troy has voiced just so many damn characters at this point that now whenever I hear a character voiced by him, I can't help but just hear Troy, not whatever character he's supposed to be portraying. There's a few exceptions like Joel, but like 90% of the time I just hear and am playing as Troy Baker, not Booker, or Arkham Knight etc if that makes sense
He did voice magni in GOW and that sounded pretty original
Troy and Jenson are tied in my opinion. I just dont like how Troy's version was handled.
Both of these actors voiced batman and red hood.
Death worshipping garbage" that's a unique line I give it to Jensen ackles
I gotta say it's a tie.
i’m super biased but i genuinely think arkham knight jason is my favorite version of him. troy’s voice acting gave me actual chills the first time i experienced the game
I honestly agree with you both of these guys sound amazing as jason. And I'm really picky on what my favorite character sound like. And I think they both do an amazing job at voicing him. Especially since the way Jenson plays Jason, cuz I definitely see him being that cold and emotionless when he's dealing with criminals that he's up against. Because that's everything that is red hood he's cocky a badass and knows what he's doing and is very Unapologetic. While the baker Jason is what I would expect when Jason's dealing with Batman or Bruce. Cuz they're kind of like two different people when you think about it. I see Jason being very emotional and tries to use that emotion as way to manipulate bruise or maybe not even manipulate them but get him to see him as his son and that he is still very much the same person and not this villain that Bruce has sometimes made him out to be in his head. But either way like I said both of them do amazing job as voice actors. But let's just hope that the new voice actor for Gotham nights does Jason some justice just like these guys have.
12 fucking years now when he plays solder boy with a deep voice and him sounding soo different makes it soo cool like that a new person
I like Jensen's more. He feels more unpredictable. In case of Troy's he has evident psychological problems which would lead to a lot of tendencies, making him more predictable.
I like the Troy Baker voice better, it suits Jason better in my opinion. Jensen voice seems a little too deep in my opinion.
Bruh i didn't know Ackles was the voice actor for RedHood......that makes it even better. Loved that movie
"Fab Five Freddy told me everybody's fly"
The Arkham Jason is 100x better than the cartoon one. Troy played Jason as someone who deals with so much pain and betrayal, he captured it perfectly and speaks so much emotion when talking about what Joker did to him. Jensens wasn't really a memorable performance he just sounded like his normal self.
Too bad the dialogue is the opposite. Jensen's dialogue is awesome, thus giving his performance more "Oomph," whereas Troy's is very mid, making his performance more forgettable.
Arkham Knight is most overrated depiction of Jason I’ve ever seen. Just a whiny cry baby filled with angst constantly screaming for daddy’s attention the entire night and throwing a rage anytime something doesn’t slightly go his way THE ENTIRE night.
When he finally has his opportunity to face Bruce he cowers behind a gargoyle w a sniper and sends his side kicks and drones to kill Batman for him. He never faces Batman 1v1 but complains when his incompetent army can’t do it themselves and he does this the entire night.
On top of this his motivation is goofy and unclear as hell. On one hand he says Batman is a cancer to Gotham and he’ll be a better Batman than Bruce ever was but then also is willing stand back and allow Scarecrow to detonate a bomb that will submerge the entire east coast. Jason literally was willing to let this happen because Batman was able to minimize the blast radius at the last second at ace chemicals right on time. He flops from anti hero to straight villain like 5 times throughout the game based off his rants on the intercoms.
Peoples argument to this is that Joker psychologically fucked him to the point of total mental breakdown but for some reason he was able to work with Crane and Deathsroke, train a militia in Venezuela, with 3 billion dollars mind you that he secretly withdrew from Bruce’s accounts with a clear state of mind. All just at the very last second to become unstable and neurotic? Goofy. And the e Jason we see in the DLC is suddenly cool, confident, and composed.
This is why I prefer Jensens Red Hood. He doesn’t go on huge rants claiming how much better he is than Batman. He demonstrates it in combat and manages to show not tell that he is in fact on Batman and Nightwing caliber. He single handedly drops crime rates down to an all time zero in Gotham in just a short amount of time but then manipulates non violent crime to make a profit, effortlessly making a mockery out of Batman’s entire crime fighting career. This is the real Red Hood. Calm, collected, composed, ahead of the curb, unphased by anyone or anything and never whines or complains when things don’t go his way.
I can't choose who's better. They're both so good!
Both are amazing tbh
Troy baker does the same voice over and over. He use to be good
ur so right this sounds exactly like the joker from Arkham origins....
@@Drugstorecowboy8 that’s the joke, cuz he said he does the same voice over and over and joker sounds nothing like any of them lmao
@@gfroosh8114 ahh my bad lmao at least you know
@@Drugstorecowboy8 😂😂😂
I love Jensen Ackles but Troy Baker is an absolut legend when it comes to voice acting
Bruhhhh it would be hard to choose just one they both do amazing jobs at catching each aspect of Jason. He's a crazy calm calculating tortured soul
Both are awesome being redhood, i still had goosebump
Both gave me goosebumps
I say both did well, they both showed emotion in their voice.
Both are freakin perfect
Had no idea Ackles voiced him... LOVE him a jason tho. from Soldeir boy to Dean to this DUDE HAS RANGE!