Inexperienced Crane Operators
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 เม.ย. 2014
- Be careful with letting inexperienced crane operators do difficult lifts. They might seem easy enough but what happens when the inexperienced loose control and faith in him self
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That operator was pretty dam good. He was doing a good job of trying to catch the swing. Remember he is on a ship and it's rolling with the seas. When he realized the timing of the roll was increasing the swing, he did the right thing and slowed the swing by touching the water and stabilizing the situation. Besides, they don't put newbies on offshore rig cranes.
WS L Sorry but he was not. It should never have come to it.
But there is a long story behind.
But out of what you see, yes you are right.
He is inexperienced. He tried to stop front to back swing with his boom but his timing was off.... making it worse
J. D. .... inexperienced? Maybe so, but how else does anyone learn? Through experience, trial, and error. Besides, i give him credit. He used a safe method to stop the swing. His method = noone getting hurt. That's what is most important.
WS L, not too sure about that. Too many times he started his left swing while the load had swung to the right. That just made the load swing too fast. As the load swing too fast the centrifugal force caused the load to swing out. So now the load is not only swinging in and out, but also left and right. He did stop the left and right swing once by moving the boom over the load at the top of the swing, but he mostly was late taking action to keep the load under control. Strange looking crane. That horizontal section of the boom makes in and out swing difficult to control. A smooth beginning and ending of swing is the only control he had over the in and out swing.
looks more like the rope handlers were inexperinced
To be experienced, you first have to be inexperinced.
Critical thinking!! Exceptionally good crane operator.. Bravo
I have quite a bit of experience operating a crane. On dry ground. I would imagine that on a rocking ship with wind factored in, that this operator wasn't doing too bad.
Whoever titled this video is the rookie. Stemmed a difficult swell induced swing with a dip in the water. Ace hand.
One of the most difficult jobs you can do. I’m certainly not going to judge.
The sling attached to the container is long and there is no tail rope. I'm a crane operator too the method he did to stop the swing is the most safest way. Quick thinking with experience that's what he did.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
That look like one hell of a hard crane job to master
He did what I would've did if I couldn't catch my swing. We all got to start somewhere
now he gets the experienced, lol
Hmmm NO GOOD, training needed for that crane operator,and he operating a knuckle boom crane.
Weather condition is obviously bad. Rigger on the supply boat did not provide long tag lines to control movement of load. Fortunately the crane operator is experience and knows what to do.
as a offshore crane op of 38 years ive operated cranes from ships to fixed installations, semi subs. fpsos etc and as such can say that .that operation was piss poor. That guy should not be in a crane. its a basic element of operating a crane is knowing how to stop a swing in a load .god help him if it was rough, it should be titled idiots in offshore cranes. Clearly an inexperienced operator
When it swing to the left you swing too and compensate momentum.
good job. Should have had more guide ropes though.
How did this end ?......
The only inexperienced operator I see here is the guy holding the camera. Jesus.
Move the boom according to the direction of wind otherwise use crane boom swing lever n runner lever together
The ocean swell's, is a major factor, as an operator each lift is different, just as there's different ways to catch a load , identifying the swing is key to stopping it ,
Yes correct !
Experienced CrOp !
Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP...
Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!!
Only against SWELL !!!
There should be some tag lines
looks like a wrecking ball to this guy
Just to tell that the person making the video is not even close this is the best to put the load in the water to make it calm down
I remember seeing the incident report done on this later on onboard.
What did it say
He's horrible at catching the ball. I can tell that he understands the concept, but he's not using the throttle to make the crane responsive enough to catch the load in time. The guy sucks. I would of kicked him out of the seat.
Shore, after this, he was sent away!
Very hard work
the operator lifting to high..
He is really good
Good Old Unions for ya!
You mean there was more than one!?! 😳😜
Nothing wrong with the raneoperator, but with the lashing guys !!
Good Job 👍👍👍👍
They should let us plug an Xbox controller up to the crane to operate it. And B button = bailout
that the time to check of experience of the craneoperator . when he lift the that time he is swings little fast thats why he face that seceaction. and also rough sea in deep water
The who post the video,I hope we never meet!
There is a long ass tag line missing on two corner of the load for the rigger to hold some of the swing of the load for the crane operator to have better control of the load because he is at sea and the vessel is swinging as well, the men did his best.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
Offshore in lifts like this you don't have tag line, and no he don't make it right, those machines (cranes) are made for those caind conditions 90% of the time. He never ever showed drop his colegas food containers inside the water, now nobody eat! He has to stop the balance with the crane, those are the best offshore crane to work, and has a lot of technology onboarding, including one that helps to stop those caind balance, the hc competition.
You realize the very camera you using to record with can't be kept still? The entire barge/ ship is rolling that`s a difficult situation to operate a crane in. Cranes require stability.. You obviously don't appreciate or are knowledgeable on lifting. That operator is exceptionally good even took a risky manouevre to stabilize the container.
No tag lines on the load wow
I think the operator did good job to me saved the day no one was hurt what happens on ships with cranes
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I would have used the heavy hook, might be better choice !
The container should not have been lifted......Good or bad driver...
Lmao
Not bad 🤕
And this ppl lucky can get job I’m 13 years experience almost 5 months not work now 🤣🤣🤣
Should have used the block !!
No tag lines? Not the operators fault.
Wind, waves, and no tag line. Guy wasn’t doing that bad tbh. I operate cranes on land and once it starts to swing in a circle their isn’t much you can do to catch your drift. You just kinda have to let it be till it settles down. Which why loads always need to be controlled with tag lines. By osha standards it needs to have Atleast 2 ropes hanging.
Technically you can slow or even stop the swing entirely by moving the crane in the direction of the swing. If what you are moving is swinging north then to south. You just move it with it. When it goes north you move it north. It slows and if your really good, fully stops it.
You could just stop moving and it will slowly stop. But with the waves and the wind? No dice. And no tag lines. I believe this guy did excellent in the since of no one got hurt and he did it as safe as he could. So I too believe he didn’t do bad. Although I’ve never used a crane in the ocean so who knows.
It was very smart of the crane operator to get it away from the workers and to think fast enough to do what he did, he could work on my ship crane any day. 👍🏼
Experienced CrOp !
Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP...
Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!!
Only against SWELL !!!
I will handle it without drop in water
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Knobend driver
That's one of the last places you want to see a wormy crane operator.🤠
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Cal dive Supt must’ve been pissed off lol😅
he is trying his levels best . BRAVO
Only someone with no experience of cranes or rigging would give this video it’s title.
Hi
this kind of operation, is something difficult from other operations.
I had experience this in pal finger crane before.
crane vessel will be in non dp or in 4point mooring,
supply vessel will pushing the crane vessel and also particularly pushing the crane pedestal area closely.
We have to use our brain to understand & control the lift
Dips the whole food container inside cheeze sauce
Very experienced operator. Crap title.
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Good crane operator .just bad Description title . give him some respect .
The crane operator is a professional. You yourself don't know anything about marine operations.
Experienced CrOp !
Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP...
Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!!
Only against SWELL !!!
A rolling ship. And its on the sea. You can guaranteed hes getting 50K+ winds. The operator was great. Change your shitty title.
He filled the Connex with water and soaked all the items inside. That is why you should always plan before you lift so that you don't make the wrong decision during a crane lift.
Those containers are water tight
Incorrect. He used the water to stabilize the swing. Barely touched the water.
Bad title. Looks like a lot of experience there. He did what he should have and it worked well. Bravo.
What was his error one can learn from
the only inexperience I see here is the titling of the video
The crane operator was actually swinging the container because he wanted to hypnotize the crew and take over the ship.
These nautical secrets always slip out sooner or later!
This operator stupid to bullshit
Hahahahaah
That's mutany! You'll walk the plank for that!
@@russellpeffer7736 No one said it would be easy
i thought he did a good job putting it in the water to stop it from swinging
crane on a rolling ship plus crane movement plus the load swing probably little bit of wind swing. This operator he knows what he was doing and you can see why he dip that load in the water. However, from a video gamer standpoint this seems so easy.
Thats what I said. Coulda toppled that crane or snapped the boom and he dunked it to start over w/no swinging
Hahaha if you are good with a crane, you can control that with ease. I've done it for years. Work at a port with a ships crane, do around 13-18 loads an hr.
@@blazer666del whatever you say.
I've run cranes...the guys pretty good...look at the block on the end of the boom swinging when he goes towards the water...that roll is intense...THE TITLE SHOULD BE INEXPERIENCED RIGGERS, WHERES THE DAMN TAG LINE?
There are tag lines on . You have to look close.
Absolutely agree.
Yes there were drag lines.
But they were in the hands of idiots.
0 chance rigger stop that swing.
Being a crane operator myself I must say this crane operator is well experienced and did just the right thing to move the container away, stoped the load from swinging and the proceeded back to the deck . Hats off to him. Very safe indeed . 👍👌👏🙏
Best way to catch the swing and you are learning is to... catch the swing 1 way first.. you choose either left or right with the slew or luff up or luff down with the boom. Good way to learn how to do this for newbie.. if you have a fishing rod at home. Pull it out and go through the movements cranes make. And visually see and move the rod around. Try to keep the hook steady and luff up and pause, let the hook swing towards you.. then as the hook swings past like a pendulum luff the rod up and try get the hook to stop swing. Vice versa, try it swinging the hook left or right. Same principle as above except you move left or right, as you get better, try doing all two movements at the same time. Crane driving is a skill of eye and hand coordination.. and experience comes with time on the deck hooking up loads and placing them. If you can guide a crane on the ground with a blindfold on the crane operator.. without damaging anything weaving in and out of obstacles.. on the blind lifts.. you should be able to handle a operating a crane.
Inexperienced Camera Operator.
them boys on tht tag line really thought they were gonna stop the pick
Looks like he saved his bacon. Probably left some marks in the seat.
With 9 years experience working crane's that is an inexperienced operator . To catch a swinging load you must follow it , that operator is going the opposite and increasing the swing .
Hes supposed to go left or right
@@Lewiseyers i learned to yee while its yeeing and yaw while its yawing
Exactly! You follow the swing, first you wait and when it's about to reach its farther point you swing towards it, and catch it.
@@oyl23 i learned on a mh grapple. i think it should be a prerequisite to cable cranes.
The crane operator did a great job fixing the screw up by the two men on the boat that would not let go of the guide ropes.
Let's see the camera guy operate a crane...
He increased the pendulum length and induced drag in the water.....exactly what you need to do!
Well if this operator was inexperienced then I can only hope that the person recording was not a seasoned operator or rigger...
Guy must have been a carnival ride operator.
I feel sorry for the immigrants in the container.
Waduh
Their probably puking everywhere in there.
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He got arrested once they docked and received 15 yr prison sentence no parole for this
who the fuck would put inexperienced crane operators on a oil rig?
Crane spotters.
Well done.....
Good operating
How does one get experience on a offshore rig if they never put newbies in it? No one is born knowing how to do this so what situation can a individual prepare themselves for offshore crane operating?
DIY Media ... agreed. It's the only way that ANY operator, no matter what the heavy machinery is, gets experience and learns how to operate in any condition and situation. How else did all those " old school badass " learn how to operate under any circumstances? Trial and error.
Normally we progress from stable rigs to floaters. I started on a liftbarge then to a jackup then I moved to a floater then I moved to a drill ship. From over 25 yrs in the crane seat (offshore) It looked to me the guy was off when he tried to catch the load. This made it swing more, Then it looks like he was wondering what to do (crane not moving) this non action made the load swing even more. It takes many years to get good, especially on any kind of floater. BUT to his credit he did dump it in the water to stop the swing. He has to get credit for that. As for his future in the crane seat I would hesitate to put him in the crane alone. For the fact he clearly froze up and the swing became really bad as a result. All this and the guy is making 100,000 a yr for 6 months work. I bet he tries to hold that seat hahah
exactly, every good operator was a newb at one point, don't beat up the younger guy because he doesn't have the experience you do
With any Heavy Equipment, you should have at least some weeks on the ground alongside big working machines to get a sense of their scope before you touch any control ...or you might just get tossed onto the job when your rigger wanders off, like I did LOL
If you don't have an uncle or affirmative action, your best approach is to seek work as a 'Ground Man', understanding that you'd be competing in a crude yet efficient working-class meritocracy. These things, you have tons and tons of distant force at your fingertips in a somewhat-unpredictable setting. In my world, I want an experienced operator on the machine. Work your way up from BobCat, or whatever :-)
You'd hope that the newbie had some vertical builds experience. The basic don't change with crane operation.. only the environment. Catching the swing is everything in safe lifting and placing of loads. Off shore you do have the swell and roll, but as an operator you must understand if the load is swing towards you.. you jib up.. or vice versa if loads swinging away from cab. The guys on tag lines can't do much if the operator is doing the exact opposite. Fuk I'd let the tag line go too. Good luck to the newbie though it's a tough lesson out there. I'm sure the lesson is learned now and can only get better.
Shoulda hired a union rigger,Whatchu Call me !
The crane operator knows hes work. 👍
He kept his cool n nobody got hurt..i think he did preety good
Longer tag line would help that operator out. Water and wind are monsters. If you’ve ever operated on a water vessel and in high wind conditions you know what he’s going through. Hard to catch a load in those conditions.
One thing to mention:
Effective Tag Line Management...
Oh yeah,at the same time "Mat" ( if that's really his name)starts yelling ,Nay , Screaming,where's your tag line!!bwa
It would have been more fun if that container was full of Alka-Seltzer.
operator my ass. I would never have allowed that load to swing like that. Rolling seas my ass.
Experienced CrOp !
Stupid Navigator \ DPO \ Captain !! Keep in DP...
Keep vessel AGAINST swell at time crane operation !!!!!!!!!!
Only against SWELL !!!