To answer your question about wether someone tipped me off : when I found the mount, I was like "so why did it appear" and wanted more info. So I went on wowhead and read the comments to find out - and there were no answers. So I realized nobody had found it on live, it was only on the beta. I was very surprised, so I searched for the secret finding discord and started posting. I was immediately jumped on by a bunch of extremely enthusiastic people who asked me 100 questions - what I was wearing, what items were in my bag, if my computer monitor was turned north or south (ok, joking about that last one, but only a little). All the while was I was saying : can you just get a tank to solo Plaguefall ? And it turns out it was that. And finally, I ran back because I had 3 minutes left on the Bellular video I was listening to, so I wanted to try to find the exit portal because I just didn't know where it is (isn't it in the corridor near the last boss's room ?) instead or just hearthing out. P.S : if anyone likes soloing, there is a full SL soloing guide on my channel (video) and on Wowhead (written)
Honestly dude you are my favorite type of wow player. I've definitely fallen into the trap of min/maxing my characters before, and it's a true breath of fresh air just to know there are people like you who still play this game to do what they enjoy and don't give a shit what anyone thinks. So many wow players have forgotten what playing a game to have fun means, but not you. More power to you man, hope you keep doing what you enjoy.
You just play the game for fun and suddenly you discover a secret that many people were searching and making all kind of theories of it for a while... yhea, that sounds like a normal day... (oh my god...)
29:00 omg hes CLICKING his skills.. of course this player would manually run backwards to exit a dungeon.. and the fact that hes playing "for fun" its even more rewarding for him to have found it. nobody plays "for fun" anymore it seems. that dude was just enjoying himself and doing his solo grind. i love it !
Well i just play for fun i don't care if someone rips my m+ key if we have fun After all it's just a game and a game is supposed to be a good and funny experience for me^^ at least that's how i think i know most people are different especially in games like wow or league of legends ^^
They are just mad Durendil found it. Last time I played in Legion, he managed to piss everyone off because he was a "clicker". Average WoW sweatlord can't handle that. Upsets them immensely. Can't remember what he did, but he managed to solo.. something impressive? I saw the name and recognized it right away. He was always a gigachad. Surprised he still plays all these years later. In fact, surprised this is even in my recommended. I've not touched blizzard stuff in... like, 7 years. Hilarious to see all this time later this guy is STILL pissing off people sweating way too hard, and he's still way too nice/humble. Comical honestly. Good on him lol.
love this xD i too haven't played wow in.... i dare not even try to figure out how many years now, it may remind me my age too much x'D but kiiiinda making me get a lil urge to go back.. for the nostalgia.. also miss that private server nostalrius :'( good times.
I was a “clicker” all of the way through the end of MoP… and I was doing Heroic raiding from WotLk thru MoP when it was the hardest raid format. I honestly didn’t even know that keybinds and gaming mouses were a thing until late in Cataclysm, and I didn’t bother to buy a gaming mouse or to use keybinds until the end of MoP. I was always in the top 3 dps in my Heroic raid group and often the top dps, and I also raid tanked on other toons as a clicker as well. It’s entirely doable… I don’t think I’d want to go back since I’ve gotten used to keybinds and having a gaming mouse, but I suppose I could… I guess my point is that ppl should play the game however the hell they want and enjoy themselves. I caught a little good natured ribbing from my guildies when they realized that I was a clicker (and I realized that everyone else WASN’T clicking 😂) but they knew that I knew my shit… don’t let other people tell you how to play or to enjoy yourself, just do your own thing.
Oh my God of course they never found it because they needed to do it alone. If you build a community around finding a secret why would you play alone? You've got a couple thousand people who would love to play with you. And the people who do play solo wouldn't have been part of the community and known that it was some big secret
the majority of online players for most games usually play alone for most things unless other people are required, seems to be the norm these days especially for MMOs
@@erickchristensen746 thats untrue, even in classic vast majority of the play is done in single players. harder quests, raids, some pvp or dungeons are in group, sure.
@@erickchristensen746 I don't know exactly how potent is the copium you consume but it must be pretty strong. Everybody plays solo, even in Classic, unless they want to do group content like Heroics or Raids. There was a whole meta of soloing dungeons for gold in Vanilla Classic, if you don't remember.
I mean, if I was a staff member on a game with this dedicated a fanbase, not only in terms of passion but also in terms of cooperation and time investment. I'd also want to put in some deeply buried stuff, just to sit back and marvel at how quickly and easily they'd pop it all open.
@@Amateracu1991DFFOO Tbf, it's not hard to be the best at ONE point, I was, at one point, the best demon hunter in the world in legion. Albeit only for 1 singular day, but it isn't hard as long as you just farm M+, there's no real way to "prove" you're the no.1, just what 3rd party websites said
had a fury warrior in my guild and he was part of the roster for our nzoth cutting edge and sylvanas cutting edge. Only later did he tell us he is actually a clicker (and he really clicked every spell). At first we thought he is joking... but he was not (because fury gotta be on of the most active speccs). And he was quite good too nobody expected him to be a clicker
I click all my skills, but I have pretty fast clicking reaction, I mean I have done M+25s on druids and dks and hunters, Usually get at least 6 mythic bosses down, on my rogue I have been in the 2300 bracket a few times. The only things I don't just click on my bar is my druid healing spells when I heal party members because I use elvui and clique to click on the name plates with a mouse button. Only do that because it was so satisfying to cat sneeze mobs away and root them while I shifted from bear form to throw HOTs on party members and save a definite wipe. Really hot keys make you no better than a clicker. It just means you got good at the game in a different way. For vanilla players that weren't tryhards, following cookie cutter builds and memorizing macro hotkey rotation, clicking was the way you went. And if things got more difficult you had to get better at clicking. Hell the funniest thing I have ever seen was one of those try hard glads with all the rotation macro hotkeys and playing the flavor of the month class in maxed gear get totally destroyed by a friend in fresh 70 gear in arena, the reason it was funny was because my friend was a clicker...worse than that, he was a click to move player as well. Dude talked so much crap about clickers and keyboard turners and how you couldn't rate without hotkeys and moving with the mouse, and then he gets completely shat on....though I guess if we are being technical, my friend was kind of moving with his mouse.
I have a video uploaded to the #Slime-Serpent channel where I got every debuff from every pettable slime kitten at once. I had seconds left on the first cat's debuff when I got the final one in the dungeon. Each cat has a unique debuff ID and it lasts 5 minutes. Using a party of 5 including a Warlock, Scroll of Teleport: Theater of Pain, and my Hearthstone, we managed to get all of the debuffs on one person in 5 minutes. Before flying was out. I was hoping they would combine into a new debuff or something wild.
I realllly wanted to mention the cats more in depth because I really loved the idea that they were a part of everything, however with them having their own achievement and it generally not having the same impact as something like the Treatise, it was one subject I had to trim down.
Reminds me of in Diablo 3 when the Harvest Banner was added to the game. No one could find the mob that dropped it, so people scrambled to figure out what the secret to discovering it was. Turned out, the devs had the spawn rate for it astronomically low on accident.
@@The-defector If I can find a game like Diablo 3 that has similar levels of synergies between classes, abilities, and legendary weapons.. Then, and only then will I consider forgetting it. Sincerely, Wizard Cheese-master casting perma-stun meteor showers without ever worrying about running out of arcane power.
@@krel7160 it's good to find a kindred soul. Sincerely yours, a goddamn warrior, who likes to rush through the whole screen while throwing oneshot boulders
I'm still in disbelief about how this was found. I saw the entire discord channel unravel and everyone lose their minds over this only for this guy to appear and get it done just doing their usually world tour of dominating dungeon bosses 🤣
I had this mount 16 days before it was "discovered" and got threats over not remembering what i did to get it lmao, i solod heroic on every dungeon except ToP on my demon hunter for fun, and i had 69 uses of my hearthstone so I didn't use it I'd always walk out of the instance, well there was a thing and i clicked it and at that time the doorbell rang so i didn't know i had the mount anyways until someone in another discord told me about it and i was like "i already have it" and he just goes "wut."
@@flarfo348 It's interesting how a thousand people with collective IQ of over 100,000 got owned by the class people referred to as Huntards. And because any sane man would hearthstone or teleport out, but only a true mad man would voluntarily run back, I think Blizzard tried to tell us something deep. _"When the going gets weird, the weird turns pro."_ Or something like _"It takes a smart man to play dumb."_
The dedication of fandoms is always fascinating to me, I love people deducing what a complicated string of code means and using memory, luck and team work to figure things out
the secret finding discord spent about 72 hours arguing and bickering that the chair had to be a clue and super important, just for us to go back to a clue we had ignored and collectively moved on from in the first 5 hours. it was a translation clue that became apparent once we had some multilingual people show up and read our their clues in their native languages. it was bonkers.
what is funny is Blizzard once put up a blue post in Legion that said players had only ever discovered 13% of wow's total secrets with only 36%of the secrets in Vanilla ever found. If the community of WoW in vanilla didn't discover the secrets in Vanilla, the Secret Finding discord doesn't stand a chance, that is even if most of them are still around after Cata.
''i feel like someone at blizzard tipped him off'' what? you think blizzard went ''hey this community has gone insane looking for this answer, you found it. please share it with them so they can stop being so crazy''
Mega are u stupid or just pretending? XD, he is talking about a Blizzard Employee who knew the answer and probably just told to a friend or something, that's completely possible
People who put Easter eggs to find sometimes get frustrated if too much time passes without anyone finding them, so I don't doubt it's possible that someone might have leaked it to the one person it might be plausible could have found it.
People will say that because they just simply don't want to believe that all of their effort was wasted and all of the megabrain theories they came up with were just theories. Ockham's razor states that the simplest explanation is usually the best one.
What I love is that there's a chance someone at Blizzard tipped him off, but there's an equal possibility that someone wanted to make a mount for Durendil specifically. Like some of them saw "oh wow, this guy's trying to solo all the content and he's DOING IT! We should add something only people like him are gonna find, something for the people who enjoy soloing content."
Super big community wide secrets in games are always great, both the extra hidden content and ARG type variations you usually see. Destiny's had a few really good ones, Noita basically just is one all the way through, Inscryption is a bloody goldmine, etc. It's fun to see a whole community come together to get everything they can out of a game. Really proves the game's worth, when so many people are willing to go so far for a bit more of it. Plus, it's generally a fairly welcoming part of the community - they want to hear every single idea, and they need as many people out there trying things out as they can get.
I’m not sure if there’s still a wall hack for hivemind, but I remember back in the day when it got released I joined a random group on group finder called “hivemind” and the dude walked us through it. We went inside the Court of Stars dungeon, clip through a missing texture wall to go underneath the map, swim forward then come up. Go around the map and go up by Felsoul Hold’s shore which is next to Suramar City. Literally walked up to the mount from the other side of the bridge and clicked on it lmao.
This was a really fun video as someone who played wow a ton and hasn’t since BFA launch. Well told and I don’t think there’s a ton that’s inaccessible to non-players. Good work!
I was the first rogue on Illidan to get the slime serpent when it was mathematically nearly impossible to solo on rogue. Sat and rolled the bones for the right collection of buffs to live the first half of the last boss for 40 minutes. Took 5 tries for a total of 4 hours of attempts but in the end I got it when it was current content.
I may have absolutely no clue on what the hell half this video is about(not a wow player), but thanks for filling in the void after I contracted "I just binged watched an entire anime season(the only one for now)and there is a void in me" syndrome. Thanks davey.
This is friggin _hilarious,_ and honestly the length of the video only improves that. It works to build up the same suspense and confusion the community felt over it, only to puncture it with the same anti-climax they experienced.
It's going well, I gotta go get dishes and pans and other boring kitchen stuff, but other then that I've just been playing games I guess. It's an off day.
I remember getting the hive mond mount on accident. Friends were all online and ibwas getting readybfor bed at midnight when they had started it. They quickly roped me into a three hour quest to get this thing and it was so new that the guide was still wrong about a few steps with the platforms. We eventaully got it and were laughing from delerium since we were so tired trying to find the right combo of people to go across the platforma at the end. It was awesomw.
It's like the riddle " What is at the end of time and the beginning of eternity?" Ask someone that, and most people completely overthink it. It's the letter E.
It’s really nice that community-shaking stories like this still pop up occasionally. I haven’t felt the same fascination since the Corrupted Blood incident.
I participated in the secret find of the pet cat found in Kara, and we could get very wild in our theory, even if at that point, we really had everything we needed to finish it. And that one had actual hints!
I do a lot of solo hunter playing, so I've seen a bunch of Durendil's videos for info, but had no idea he was the one to "solve" the slime serpent. That's hilarious! Good for him.
I find this funny, as I'm the kind of person who after finishing a run will go back and check all the nooks and crannies mainly as I like to explore and see the esthetic of the places from a design standpoint. Even older runs I can run through solo I'll have a good around once it's cleared. If I still played I wonder how soon I would have stumbled onto this. rofl. All because they backtracked to leave. XD
When i used to play wow before I quit in BFA, I LOVED secret finding. was totally my thing. I'm actually really happy they keep doing it, and i love when its convoluted and stupid, Fun video!
Its like that shoplifter that tried to escape the shop and thought he was locked in. He pushed on the door frantically trying to escape, and then gave up when the Police arrived. The Police walked up and pushed the doors open easily from their side. Had the shoplifter pulled instead of pushed, he would have easily gotten away. Sometimes, things are literally just that simple.
I remember soloin this on my DH to get the mount a couple mounts ago when i started seen it in Oribos and got curious haha didn' t know the whole story behind it. It's amazing. Damn I love wow and it's communities sometimes
big respect for people dedicating their time to find secret stuff and specially also to the speedrunners who find new prenips. you guys are the real heroes.
Bug is such a cute little dog, but yeah moments like this are what keeps a community together, just crazy off the wall shit or things that get people to interact with each other is the perfect stuff.
Of course now I have to wonder; if the mount was found by completing a dungeon and going back, how many more secrets are there that have something similar? You'd think the secret hunting community would be all over that walking back thing just in case something new dropped on the way back...
Speaking of secrets and mysteries; your comment seems like it is hiding a mystery because under your text it says "Read more", and when I click it nothing changes, except the "Read more" changes to "Show less". Usually when it says "Read more" it's at least another sentence to be revealed. I think there might be a hidden message here. There might be a secret message between the lines. Or maybe I just went mad from this video and all the cryptic clues.
I just picked up this mount yesterday because another video mentioned it's a pretty easy one at lvl 70. I had absolutely no idea it had this much history behind it. Thank you for your production, you've earned a sub mate :)
Back in BC, that Boss in Sethekk that druids summoned was part of a long quest chain for their flying form...before it became a mount. I tanked that boss for some random dude on my server I remember. He was very happy.
YO DUDE I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THOSE VOICELINES ALL THROUGHOUT 9.0! At least the ones from Oribos. Damn. Never thought they'D actually do anything with it.
I can relate to this video very much and I appreciate that you did it. This is amazingly fun, watching the journey. There should be a chronicle of every single secret finding journey, seriously. Make a documentary about that shit. It's interesting af and people will study it in the future. Not the first time WoW was researched for information. Topical WOTLK comment.
If you're on about the corrupted blood incident where the CDC used the servers to simulated pandemic situations. That joke went outta date with the rona.
I love this mount! 9.1 was my first patch maining a tank, so this felt like a great test of strength for me, mage tower style. It wasn’t even that long ago, or even *that* hard, but I was completely enamored with my shiny new prot pally and this mount felt really special for that alone
Plaguefall DOES have a portal to go outside, he was likely just unaware of it. Once you kill the last boss, turn around and go into the room on the left. EDIT: No, it was discovered a few weeks before season 2. You either had to be in tankspec or be fully stacked out as dps to pull it off (pet classes had an edge because the pet could tank). 3rd boss was a really hard dps check.
Most people were unaware of it because they just didn't bother and would rather hearth out, since it's a long trip back to the entrance. Perfect way to hide something.
i've only play wow for the free to play (up to lvl 20 if i recall) like 10 years ago. So im really glad you gave some background into the whole mounts and secrets. Made it waaaay easier to follow. great video hope to see more
The mind of a hunter player is different than most. We like to kill and explore everything. We play solo to avoid all the headaches of dealing with you Uber players.
I literally just found it by soloing it on my prot pally for a plaguefall quest. I ran out because my hearth was on cooldown and just clicked it when I saw I could interact with it (I thought it was a ride to get out of the dungeon) lol...
Thanks for a great video, after 17+ years of playing this game I have had loads of fun. Yeah it has changed, but one thing never changes for me, it is still fun. Thanks again.
OG hunter here... he wasnt tipped off... this is just the mentality of a true lone hunter... i might need my hearth later and i really need to farm some leather anyway... ill just walk out..
Have you SEEN how quickly the FFXIV community will spit out a spreadsheet to maximize anything and everything? A puzzle would last 5 minutes before we had a full guide including what to wear to be the most fashionable while doing it.
I won't lie, I haven't a clue what the Final Fantasy Fourteen is as I find it difficult to rationalize getting into ANOTHER MMO, but really it's something that's so cool and I wish other companies would follow suit with.
@@DaveyGunface Yeah juggling multiple mmos successfully is not something that's easy to pull off. If you do ever end up giving WoW a break(as Blizzard convinces me to do regularly) I highly recommend giving FFXIV a shot.
FF14 has no bigger puzzle but every Xpacs releases around 6 S Rank Hunts, which are World Bosses that have hidden spawn conditions that must be found out by the Community.
This really is a good example of "Occam's Razor", and the dangers of pride. People were so determined that this was another million IQ puzzle by Blizzard that nobody even bothered trying the simpler solutions, like just. Trying to beat the dungeon solo.
I've actually got an even harder to discover secret in WoW: the Legion Frost Death Knight hidden artifact appearance. All Blizzard would say was the appearance was obtainable in game since day 1, it was simply that nobody had found it yet. People were data mining and scouring the entirety of Azeroth; sifting through old content; performing crackpot theories like kneeling in front of Arthas is ICC and talking to random Wrath NPC's for hidden dialogue... ravaging the game for any sign or clues that might indicate a quest chain not unlike that for Corrupted Ashbringer for Legion Paladins. Come to find out after weeks of this (8 or 9 weeks I believe) , they were just a random chance drop off the Soultakers, one of world bosses whose spawn hadn't come up in the weekly rotation yet. So everybody had been running around for absolutely no reason because it was literally just a time gate. After two months of this, Blizzard finally made a blue post saying it was attached to a boss that just hadn't come up yet. Dick move Blizzard.
I mean you gotta give the secret hunters props for the dedication even after months to see if the answer followed any of the theories they all came up with.
I mean it is a pretty good secret. One that seems like a no brainer to check very early on. Clear the dungeon by yourself, walk around and go back to the entrance, did anything change? It kind of reminds me of artifact appearence for outlaw rogue, way back in Legion, that looked like Windfury. It was really simple, just kill two dungeon bosses that were like the ones you would've killed in classic. But when there was no results, people started to creating weird theories on how to get them. It also reminds me of that one comic strip where a bunch of adventurers enter a room of a dungeon and on the wall in big capital letters is the word "OVERTHINKING". And then they start chatting about if its a real trap or a fake one, or if the trap is triggered by overthinking.
Slime serpent, my beloved This is my favorite mount. I've only been playing for about a year and a half, had no idea my boy gave people so much trouble
It's like the Gravity Falls Cipher Hunt where the final statue meant to be found by solving the hunt was stumbled upon by a random kid named Bradley who had no idea what it was. (Fun side note, the creator of the show, Alex Hirsch, paid Bradley off to keep his mouth shut about it xD)
i enjoyed this, way better than just revealing the secret, i never played wow btw, so half the video explaining how wow secrets worked was fun to listen to
Ah yes… you’ve gotta do it alone… in a multiplayer game… makes sense to me Fantastic video. Takes me back to when I used to play WoW, and my friend telling me about certain hard to get mounts (and walking me through getting them), like the lucid nightmare. I was actually excited to hear about those again. I would love that follow up video.
The first time in the video you mentioned the dungeon was huge and that everyone exited by hearth or similar methods, I knew what was up. The only other aspect to figure out was the soloing requirement. Ok, well obviously the devs intended for the mount to be found by FUTURE treasure hunters who almost always solo old expansions. I know hindsight is 20/20 but this was epic tunnel vision from the secrets community.
An excerpt from A Treatise on Henbestian Logic, "The key to interpretation relies upon context." The large secret hunting community was interpreting everything to do with the slime serpent from the angle of it having to be an absurdly complex secret and the longer it evaded discover the more complex the answer had to be so I doubt the idea of just beating the dungeon solo ever occured to them. However to a person playing just for the fun of soloing content with their hunter the idea of requiring a complicated solution would have never entered the equation.
I've been playing WoW for 15 years, and today I learned WoW has such secrets. I knew about the druid summoned boss, but never really considered that a secret. The rest of this convoluted mess though, I had no idea any of it even existed.
To answer your question about wether someone tipped me off : when I found the mount, I was like "so why did it appear" and wanted more info. So I went on wowhead and read the comments to find out - and there were no answers. So I realized nobody had found it on live, it was only on the beta. I was very surprised, so I searched for the secret finding discord and started posting.
I was immediately jumped on by a bunch of extremely enthusiastic people who asked me 100 questions - what I was wearing, what items were in my bag, if my computer monitor was turned north or south (ok, joking about that last one, but only a little).
All the while was I was saying : can you just get a tank to solo Plaguefall ? And it turns out it was that.
And finally, I ran back because I had 3 minutes left on the Bellular video I was listening to, so I wanted to try to find the exit portal because I just didn't know where it is (isn't it in the corridor near the last boss's room ?) instead or just hearthing out.
P.S : if anyone likes soloing, there is a full SL soloing guide on my channel (video) and on Wowhead (written)
Legend.
I love you. You are a true player of this game, this fuckers are just white noise.
Honestly dude you are my favorite type of wow player. I've definitely fallen into the trap of min/maxing my characters before, and it's a true breath of fresh air just to know there are people like you who still play this game to do what they enjoy and don't give a shit what anyone thinks. So many wow players have forgotten what playing a game to have fun means, but not you. More power to you man, hope you keep doing what you enjoy.
You just play the game for fun and suddenly you discover a secret that many people were searching and making all kind of theories of it for a while... yhea, that sounds like a normal day...
(oh my god...)
So whole secret was discovered because you didn't know how to exit the dungeon?
29:00 omg hes CLICKING his skills.. of course this player would manually run backwards to exit a dungeon.. and the fact that hes playing "for fun" its even more rewarding for him to have found it. nobody plays "for fun" anymore it seems. that dude was just enjoying himself and doing his solo grind. i love it !
Lol If i still played wow I do that, just to see if I forgot some loot or chest on the way.
Well i just play for fun i don't care if someone rips my m+ key if we have fun
After all it's just a game and a game is supposed to be a good and funny experience for me^^ at least that's how i think i know most people are different especially in games like wow or league of legends ^^
@@pablowow1025 Same!
clicking skills is an objectively bad way to play and they really should make it so clicking the skills just doesn't work
@Burger_pants That is why I have taken a step back on D4 and I'm just enjoying it, not trying to own it.
They are just mad Durendil found it. Last time I played in Legion, he managed to piss everyone off because he was a "clicker". Average WoW sweatlord can't handle that. Upsets them immensely. Can't remember what he did, but he managed to solo.. something impressive? I saw the name and recognized it right away. He was always a gigachad. Surprised he still plays all these years later. In fact, surprised this is even in my recommended. I've not touched blizzard stuff in... like, 7 years. Hilarious to see all this time later this guy is STILL pissing off people sweating way too hard, and he's still way too nice/humble. Comical honestly. Good on him lol.
love this xD i too haven't played wow in.... i dare not even try to figure out how many years now, it may remind me my age too much x'D but kiiiinda making me get a lil urge to go back.. for the nostalgia.. also miss that private server nostalrius :'( good times.
I was a “clicker” all of the way through the end of MoP… and I was doing Heroic raiding from WotLk thru MoP when it was the hardest raid format. I honestly didn’t even know that keybinds and gaming mouses were a thing until late in Cataclysm, and I didn’t bother to buy a gaming mouse or to use keybinds until the end of MoP. I was always in the top 3 dps in my Heroic raid group and often the top dps, and I also raid tanked on other toons as a clicker as well. It’s entirely doable… I don’t think I’d want to go back since I’ve gotten used to keybinds and having a gaming mouse, but I suppose I could… I guess my point is that ppl should play the game however the hell they want and enjoy themselves. I caught a little good natured ribbing from my guildies when they realized that I was a clicker (and I realized that everyone else WASN’T clicking 😂) but they knew that I knew my shit… don’t let other people tell you how to play or to enjoy yourself, just do your own thing.
Durendil: "oh cool I got a mount"
The entire secretfinding discord: *"[ [ A ] ]"*
@@valdiramorim8170 Man, that's more of a flame at the Secret Finders XD Poor bastards!
Oh my God of course they never found it because they needed to do it alone. If you build a community around finding a secret why would you play alone? You've got a couple thousand people who would love to play with you. And the people who do play solo wouldn't have been part of the community and known that it was some big secret
The majority of people play alone. The majority of secret hunting is done alone. Doing current-level dungeons alone is not exactly common.
the majority of online players for most games usually play alone for most things unless other people are required, seems to be the norm these days especially for MMOs
@@seankkg
"In Retail"
is what you meant to say when saying that most people play alone.
This is a minority in Classic.
@@erickchristensen746 thats untrue, even in classic vast majority of the play is done in single players. harder quests, raids, some pvp or dungeons are in group, sure.
@@erickchristensen746 I don't know exactly how potent is the copium you consume but it must be pretty strong. Everybody plays solo, even in Classic, unless they want to do group content like Heroics or Raids. There was a whole meta of soloing dungeons for gold in Vanilla Classic, if you don't remember.
I mean, if I was a staff member on a game with this dedicated a fanbase, not only in terms of passion but also in terms of cooperation and time investment.
I'd also want to put in some deeply buried stuff, just to sit back and marvel at how quickly and easily they'd pop it all open.
Stuff reminds me of secret hunters in the Destiny fanbase.
Look up RuneScape crack the clue.
Blizzard wasting huge oportunitties, nothing new. Man i love the wow secret hunting community, hope they get back some huge and cool stuff to find
The fact that Durendil is a clicker makes this so much better
I click (some)skills.
I was also the best tank on moon guard at one point.
When you macro everything you make room for mistakes.
@@Blundabus1337sure u were buddy, I was the queen of England, I'm dead now though.
@@Amateracu1991DFFOO Tbf, it's not hard to be the best at ONE point, I was, at one point, the best demon hunter in the world in legion. Albeit only for 1 singular day, but it isn't hard as long as you just farm M+, there's no real way to "prove" you're the no.1, just what 3rd party websites said
had a fury warrior in my guild and he was part of the roster for our nzoth cutting edge and sylvanas cutting edge.
Only later did he tell us he is actually a clicker (and he really clicked every spell).
At first we thought he is joking... but he was not (because fury gotta be on of the most active speccs).
And he was quite good too nobody expected him to be a clicker
I click all my skills, but I have pretty fast clicking reaction, I mean I have done M+25s on druids and dks and hunters, Usually get at least 6 mythic bosses down, on my rogue I have been in the 2300 bracket a few times.
The only things I don't just click on my bar is my druid healing spells when I heal party members because I use elvui and clique to click on the name plates with a mouse button.
Only do that because it was so satisfying to cat sneeze mobs away and root them while I shifted from bear form to throw HOTs on party members and save a definite wipe.
Really hot keys make you no better than a clicker.
It just means you got good at the game in a different way.
For vanilla players that weren't tryhards, following cookie cutter builds and memorizing macro hotkey rotation, clicking was the way you went. And if things got more difficult you had to get better at clicking.
Hell the funniest thing I have ever seen was one of those try hard glads with all the rotation macro hotkeys and playing the flavor of the month class in maxed gear get totally destroyed by a friend in fresh 70 gear in arena, the reason it was funny was because my friend was a clicker...worse than that, he was a click to move player as well. Dude talked so much crap about clickers and keyboard turners and how you couldn't rate without hotkeys and moving with the mouse, and then he gets completely shat on....though I guess if we are being technical, my friend was kind of moving with his mouse.
I have a video uploaded to the #Slime-Serpent channel where I got every debuff from every pettable slime kitten at once. I had seconds left on the first cat's debuff when I got the final one in the dungeon. Each cat has a unique debuff ID and it lasts 5 minutes.
Using a party of 5 including a Warlock, Scroll of Teleport: Theater of Pain, and my Hearthstone, we managed to get all of the debuffs on one person in 5 minutes. Before flying was out. I was hoping they would combine into a new debuff or something wild.
I realllly wanted to mention the cats more in depth because I really loved the idea that they were a part of everything, however with them having their own achievement and it generally not having the same impact as something like the Treatise, it was one subject I had to trim down.
Reminds me of in Diablo 3 when the Harvest Banner was added to the game. No one could find the mob that dropped it, so people scrambled to figure out what the secret to discovering it was. Turned out, the devs had the spawn rate for it astronomically low on accident.
No one should remember Diablo 3
@@The-defector Still fun though.
@@The-defector If I can find a game like Diablo 3 that has similar levels of synergies between classes, abilities, and legendary weapons.. Then, and only then will I consider forgetting it.
Sincerely, Wizard Cheese-master casting perma-stun meteor showers without ever worrying about running out of arcane power.
@@krel7160 last Epoch.
@@krel7160 it's good to find a kindred soul.
Sincerely yours, a goddamn warrior, who likes to rush through the whole screen while throwing oneshot boulders
I'm still in disbelief about how this was found. I saw the entire discord channel unravel and everyone lose their minds over this only for this guy to appear and get it done just doing their usually world tour of dominating dungeon bosses 🤣
I had this mount 16 days before it was "discovered" and got threats over not remembering what i did to get it lmao, i solod heroic on every dungeon except ToP on my demon hunter for fun, and i had 69 uses of my hearthstone so I didn't use it I'd always walk out of the instance, well there was a thing and i clicked it and at that time the doorbell rang so i didn't know i had the mount anyways until someone in another discord told me about it and i was like "i already have it" and he just goes "wut."
@@Pasta843 ok
@@Pasta843 how much attention you want
@@Pasta843 thats an even better story lol
@@Pasta843Didn't happen
I can’t believe that guy soloed the mystery.
Hunter bros stay winning
@@flarfo348 It's interesting how a thousand people with collective IQ of over 100,000 got owned by the class people referred to as Huntards. And because any sane man would hearthstone or teleport out, but only a true mad man would voluntarily run back, I think Blizzard tried to tell us something deep. _"When the going gets weird, the weird turns pro."_ Or something like _"It takes a smart man to play dumb."_
While clicking half his spells…
@@blahblahblah321 half?
@@blahblahblah321 why the fuck does it matter if he's clicking spells when he's soloing content people can't beat in groups?
Love how some some of this stuff appears as an oopsie instead of purposefully
Its always fun to see puzzles with a surprisingly simple solution having such a massive community trying really hard to crack it.
Reminds me of cyberpunk's FF06B5
I'm always amazed at how people figure out the correct order of clicking on books, which instance to go to and how to get to hard to reach areas.
The dedication of fandoms is always fascinating to me, I love people deducing what a complicated string of code means and using memory, luck and team work to figure things out
Yeah doing another video on game secrets or anything else would be cool. I dont play WoW and all of these secrets are bloody awesome.
Well, I am already subscribed, but that secret involving both binary and a weird chair seems like utter insanity and I'd love to know more.
the secret finding discord spent about 72 hours arguing and bickering that the chair had to be a clue and super important, just for us to go back to a clue we had ignored and collectively moved on from in the first 5 hours. it was a translation clue that became apparent once we had some multilingual people show up and read our their clues in their native languages. it was bonkers.
@@LittleListy21 it's an ANAGRAM
what is funny is Blizzard once put up a blue post in Legion that said players had only ever discovered 13% of wow's total secrets with only 36%of the secrets in Vanilla ever found.
If the community of WoW in vanilla didn't discover the secrets in Vanilla, the Secret Finding discord doesn't stand a chance, that is even if most of them are still around after Cata.
''i feel like someone at blizzard tipped him off'' what? you think blizzard went ''hey this community has gone insane looking for this answer, you found it. please share it with them so they can stop being so crazy''
i think what he meant was, that blizz saw this dude soloing everything and told him "yo, maybe solo Plaguefall and dont use hearthstone afterwards"
Mega are u stupid or just pretending? XD, he is talking about a Blizzard Employee who knew the answer and probably just told to a friend or something, that's completely possible
The secrets discord /is/ crazy. And the devs often tell close friends and family, hell even their guilds too.
People who put Easter eggs to find sometimes get frustrated if too much time passes without anyone finding them, so I don't doubt it's possible that someone might have leaked it to the one person it might be plausible could have found it.
People will say that because they just simply don't want to believe that all of their effort was wasted and all of the megabrain theories they came up with were just theories. Ockham's razor states that the simplest explanation is usually the best one.
Seems like a mount that isn't really meant to be a big secret but rather a mount you get naturally an expansion later when you just mog-run dungeons
You could solo it with enough gear, and early on you could just skip to last two bosses.
Who would win;
one introverted hunter
or
an entire community of people dedicated to secret finding
What I love is that there's a chance someone at Blizzard tipped him off, but there's an equal possibility that someone wanted to make a mount for Durendil specifically. Like some of them saw "oh wow, this guy's trying to solo all the content and he's DOING IT! We should add something only people like him are gonna find, something for the people who enjoy soloing content."
Super big community wide secrets in games are always great, both the extra hidden content and ARG type variations you usually see.
Destiny's had a few really good ones, Noita basically just is one all the way through, Inscryption is a bloody goldmine, etc.
It's fun to see a whole community come together to get everything they can out of a game. Really proves the game's worth, when so many people are willing to go so far for a bit more of it. Plus, it's generally a fairly welcoming part of the community - they want to hear every single idea, and they need as many people out there trying things out as they can get.
This streamer is secretly Crendor using a deeper voice modulator
This makes me still believe the puzzle box of yogg saron can be opened. Somehow.
Please make a sequel this is some of the best wow content I have watched
I’m not sure if there’s still a wall hack for hivemind, but I remember back in the day when it got released I joined a random group on group finder called “hivemind” and the dude walked us through it. We went inside the Court of Stars dungeon, clip through a missing texture wall to go underneath the map, swim forward then come up. Go around the map and go up by Felsoul Hold’s shore which is next to Suramar City. Literally walked up to the mount from the other side of the bridge and clicked on it lmao.
This was a really fun video as someone who played wow a ton and hasn’t since BFA launch. Well told and I don’t think there’s a ton that’s inaccessible to non-players. Good work!
I was the first rogue on Illidan to get the slime serpent when it was mathematically nearly impossible to solo on rogue. Sat and rolled the bones for the right collection of buffs to live the first half of the last boss for 40 minutes. Took 5 tries for a total of 4 hours of attempts but in the end I got it when it was current content.
I may have absolutely no clue on what the hell half this video is about(not a wow player), but thanks for filling in the void after I contracted "I just binged watched an entire anime season(the only one for now)and there is a void in me" syndrome. Thanks davey.
This is friggin _hilarious,_ and honestly the length of the video only improves that. It works to build up the same suspense and confusion the community felt over it, only to puncture it with the same anti-climax they experienced.
Hello mr.gunface
I have asked you this question before, but things change, so, how is your day going?
It's going well, I gotta go get dishes and pans and other boring kitchen stuff, but other then that I've just been playing games I guess. It's an off day.
@@DaveyGunface good to know you’re having a nice day, I’m having a good one too.
I've never played Warcraft before, but this video was sweet. If you wanted to make more videos about Warcraft secrets I would gladly watch them.
I remember getting the hive mond mount on accident. Friends were all online and ibwas getting readybfor bed at midnight when they had started it. They quickly roped me into a three hour quest to get this thing and it was so new that the guide was still wrong about a few steps with the platforms. We eventaully got it and were laughing from delerium since we were so tired trying to find the right combo of people to go across the platforma at the end. It was awesomw.
It's like the riddle " What is at the end of time and the beginning of eternity?"
Ask someone that, and most people completely overthink it.
It's the letter E.
It’s really nice that community-shaking stories like this still pop up occasionally. I haven’t felt the same fascination since the Corrupted Blood incident.
I participated in the secret find of the pet cat found in Kara, and we could get very wild in our theory, even if at that point, we really had everything we needed to finish it. And that one had actual hints!
I do a lot of solo hunter playing, so I've seen a bunch of Durendil's videos for info, but had no idea he was the one to "solve" the slime serpent. That's hilarious! Good for him.
I'd rather call it "stumbling across it because of his calling"
You showed the chair with the skull from the lucid nightmare and i got PTSD
I cheered when I saw it. 😂 I don't know why, I hated it at the time, but it's like an old friend now.
I find this funny, as I'm the kind of person who after finishing a run will go back and check all the nooks and crannies mainly as I like to explore and see the esthetic of the places from a design standpoint. Even older runs I can run through solo I'll have a good around once it's cleared. If I still played I wonder how soon I would have stumbled onto this. rofl. All because they backtracked to leave. XD
When i used to play wow before I quit in BFA, I LOVED secret finding. was totally my thing. I'm actually really happy they keep doing it, and i love when its convoluted and stupid, Fun video!
Its like that shoplifter that tried to escape the shop and thought he was locked in. He pushed on the door frantically trying to escape, and then gave up when the Police arrived. The Police walked up and pushed the doors open easily from their side. Had the shoplifter pulled instead of pushed, he would have easily gotten away.
Sometimes, things are literally just that simple.
I remember soloin this on my DH to get the mount a couple mounts ago when i started seen it in Oribos and got curious haha didn' t know the whole story behind it. It's amazing. Damn I love wow and it's communities sometimes
big respect for people dedicating their time to find secret stuff and specially also to the speedrunners who find new prenips. you guys are the real heroes.
Bug is such a cute little dog, but yeah moments like this are what keeps a community together, just crazy off the wall shit or things that get people to interact with each other is the perfect stuff.
Of course now I have to wonder; if the mount was found by completing a dungeon and going back, how many more secrets are there that have something similar?
You'd think the secret hunting community would be all over that walking back thing just in case something new dropped on the way back...
Speaking of secrets and mysteries; your comment seems like it is hiding a mystery because under your text it says "Read more", and when I click it nothing changes, except the "Read more" changes to "Show less". Usually when it says "Read more" it's at least another sentence to be revealed. I think there might be a hidden message here. There might be a secret message between the lines. Or maybe I just went mad from this video and all the cryptic clues.
@@Moldylocks
I think that's just YT being YT... like how Blizzard is being Blizzard...
I KNOW RIGHT?!
I just picked up this mount yesterday because another video mentioned it's a pretty easy one at lvl 70. I had absolutely no idea it had this much history behind it. Thank you for your production, you've earned a sub mate :)
Back in BC, that Boss in Sethekk that druids summoned was part of a long quest chain for their flying form...before it became a mount. I tanked that boss for some random dude on my server I remember. He was very happy.
YO DUDE I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THOSE VOICELINES ALL THROUGHOUT 9.0!
At least the ones from Oribos. Damn. Never thought they'D actually do anything with it.
32:00 Bull. He wouldn't have done the whole damn thing on Mythic if he was tipped off.
I can relate to this video very much and I appreciate that you did it. This is amazingly fun, watching the journey. There should be a chronicle of every single secret finding journey, seriously. Make a documentary about that shit. It's interesting af and people will study it in the future. Not the first time WoW was researched for information. Topical WOTLK comment.
If you're on about the corrupted blood incident where the CDC used the servers to simulated pandemic situations. That joke went outta date with the rona.
Durendil is the MAN!
it just doesnt get much more WOW than finding a secret by coincidence.
I love videos about games I've never played. Please make the sequel
"im with Erin on this who suggested AAAAAAA"
i dont even play WoW and i felt that
there was another 9.0 secret with the mawrat mount, which was quite cool.
I love this mount! 9.1 was my first patch maining a tank, so this felt like a great test of strength for me, mage tower style. It wasn’t even that long ago, or even *that* hard, but I was completely enamored with my shiny new prot pally and this mount felt really special for that alone
Plaguefall DOES have a portal to go outside, he was likely just unaware of it. Once you kill the last boss, turn around and go into the room on the left.
EDIT: No, it was discovered a few weeks before season 2. You either had to be in tankspec or be fully stacked out as dps to pull it off (pet classes had an edge because the pet could tank). 3rd boss was a really hard dps check.
it's as if it's the biggest secret in the game. PF's portal to outsidd
Most people were unaware of it because they just didn't bother and would rather hearth out, since it's a long trip back to the entrance. Perfect way to hide something.
i've only play wow for the free to play (up to lvl 20 if i recall) like 10 years ago. So im really glad you gave some background into the whole mounts and secrets. Made it waaaay easier to follow.
great video hope to see more
The mind of a hunter player is different than most. We like to kill and explore everything. We play solo to avoid all the headaches of dealing with you Uber players.
i'm glad that it was so simple people go way to over the top when digging they can be miles off
I remember doing Hivemind with a friend of mine... which was literally the only thing i didn't hate about BFA
I literally just found it by soloing it on my prot pally for a plaguefall quest. I ran out because my hearth was on cooldown and just clicked it when I saw I could interact with it (I thought it was a ride to get out of the dungeon) lol...
i was part of most of these secret hunts and id love to keep hearing about them and the discord discussion of them
Dope video .that build up to the hunter just soloing it and figuring it out was perfect.
I love when there are secrets in a game that take forever to understand. It keeps the game alive
I have been yearning for more WoW content from you
Hmmmm… I remember running out of this dungeon quite a few times, and never saw that serpent. Probably was too early I guess
Did you solo the dungeon on Heroic at least?
This is the most hilarious thing I've ever heard of. Love it, and I love your humour, subscribed and such, and shown my friends.
Thanks for a great video, after 17+ years of playing this game I have had loads of fun. Yeah it has changed, but one thing never changes for me, it is still fun. Thanks again.
OG hunter here... he wasnt tipped off... this is just the mentality of a true lone hunter... i might need my hearth later and i really need to farm some leather anyway... ill just walk out..
Plaguefall does have an exit in the last boss room, most people just don’t know. It’s on the right when you enter Stradamas room.
Not playing WoW currently but this does kinda make me wanna come back... Also makes me wanna yell at the ff14 devs to make puzzle mounts like this.
Have you SEEN how quickly the FFXIV community will spit out a spreadsheet to maximize anything and everything?
A puzzle would last 5 minutes before we had a full guide including what to wear to be the most fashionable while doing it.
@@RoseLexThorne And those 5 minutes will be AMAZING
I won't lie, I haven't a clue what the Final Fantasy Fourteen is as I find it difficult to rationalize getting into ANOTHER MMO, but really it's something that's so cool and I wish other companies would follow suit with.
@@DaveyGunface Yeah juggling multiple mmos successfully is not something that's easy to pull off. If you do ever end up giving WoW a break(as Blizzard convinces me to do regularly) I highly recommend giving FFXIV a shot.
FF14 has no bigger puzzle but every Xpacs releases around 6 S Rank Hunts, which are World Bosses that have hidden spawn conditions that must be found out by the Community.
19:05 German here, we actually have multiple words for that.
This really is a good example of "Occam's Razor", and the dangers of pride.
People were so determined that this was another million IQ puzzle by Blizzard that nobody even bothered trying the simpler solutions, like just. Trying to beat the dungeon solo.
I've actually got an even harder to discover secret in WoW: the Legion Frost Death Knight hidden artifact appearance. All Blizzard would say was the appearance was obtainable in game since day 1, it was simply that nobody had found it yet. People were data mining and scouring the entirety of Azeroth; sifting through old content; performing crackpot theories like kneeling in front of Arthas is ICC and talking to random Wrath NPC's for hidden dialogue... ravaging the game for any sign or clues that might indicate a quest chain not unlike that for Corrupted Ashbringer for Legion Paladins. Come to find out after weeks of this (8 or 9 weeks I believe) , they were just a random chance drop off the Soultakers, one of world bosses whose spawn hadn't come up in the weekly rotation yet. So everybody had been running around for absolutely no reason because it was literally just a time gate. After two months of this, Blizzard finally made a blue post saying it was attached to a boss that just hadn't come up yet. Dick move Blizzard.
I mean you gotta give the secret hunters props for the dedication even after months to see if the answer followed any of the theories they all came up with.
29:30 Ironically, I play your videos in 1.5
I absolutely LOVED my decade plus of playing WoW. I started late vanilla-early Burning Crusade. My 67 year-old mother played more than I did.🤣
This video was absolutely amazing, would love to see some more WoW content!!
I love these "how we found this secret in a game" videos and this twist was amazing xD
I mean it is a pretty good secret. One that seems like a no brainer to check very early on. Clear the dungeon by yourself, walk around and go back to the entrance, did anything change?
It kind of reminds me of artifact appearence for outlaw rogue, way back in Legion, that looked like Windfury. It was really simple, just kill two dungeon bosses that were like the ones you would've killed in classic. But when there was no results, people started to creating weird theories on how to get them.
It also reminds me of that one comic strip where a bunch of adventurers enter a room of a dungeon and on the wall in big capital letters is the word "OVERTHINKING". And then they start chatting about if its a real trap or a fake one, or if the trap is triggered by overthinking.
Slime serpent, my beloved
This is my favorite mount. I've only been playing for about a year and a half, had no idea my boy gave people so much trouble
It's like the Gravity Falls Cipher Hunt where the final statue meant to be found by solving the hunt was stumbled upon by a random kid named Bradley who had no idea what it was.
(Fun side note, the creator of the show, Alex Hirsch, paid Bradley off to keep his mouth shut about it xD)
16:45 Wait, his title is "Keeper of Secrets" like he's some Greater Daemon of Slaanesh?
Nice Dr. Who reference with '' Bigger on the inside '' haha :D always spotted that! :D
I was not expecting a wow video, but I am happy to see it
i enjoyed this, way better than just revealing the secret, i never played wow btw, so half the video explaining how wow secrets worked was fun to listen to
Ah yes… you’ve gotta do it alone… in a multiplayer game… makes sense to me
Fantastic video. Takes me back to when I used to play WoW, and my friend telling me about certain hard to get mounts (and walking me through getting them), like the lucid nightmare. I was actually excited to hear about those again.
I would love that follow up video.
When I saw Durendils name, I knew EXACTLY where this one was going.
Now they have a whole holiday dedicated to secrets.
I'd absolutely love to see more videos like these!
Oh I'd love to see more secrets explained!
The first time in the video you mentioned the dungeon was huge and that everyone exited by hearth or similar methods, I knew what was up. The only other aspect to figure out was the soloing requirement. Ok, well obviously the devs intended for the mount to be found by FUTURE treasure hunters who almost always solo old expansions. I know hindsight is 20/20 but this was epic tunnel vision from the secrets community.
if its any consolation, this video is the first time i hear about this mount, and we're at the end of DF
An excerpt from A Treatise on Henbestian Logic, "The key to interpretation relies upon context."
The large secret hunting community was interpreting everything to do with the slime serpent from the angle of it having to be an absurdly complex secret and the longer it evaded discover the more complex the answer had to be so I doubt the idea of just beating the dungeon solo ever occured to them.
However to a person playing just for the fun of soloing content with their hunter the idea of requiring a complicated solution would have never entered the equation.
3:28 That was the point in that particular mount when I went "ehhh.....I think I'll skip this one."
a long story or video, the title caught my eye and I just needed to watch it to the end.
With dragon riding being everywhere now, getting around the world is the fun part lol.
Hivemind took me and my group about a day or two . However, it IS as painful as it was made out to be.
I've been playing WoW for 15 years, and today I learned WoW has such secrets. I knew about the druid summoned boss, but never really considered that a secret. The rest of this convoluted mess though, I had no idea any of it even existed.