A childhood friend had one of those cheap combination safes where with a bit of tension you could feel the combination wheel hit the grooves. For kicks I always opened it without him seeing and put something like a little note to wait for him.
I bought some very nice mills and have been trying to find the time to go buy a great cylinder and here you go showing everybody part of what I planned to do. Thumbs up!
Awesome to see you putting together a challenge lock instead of just picking them. Would love to see more of that! And links to your victims who you send them to so we can see their attempts.
Parents had a gasbar. Had to use car break in kits all the time and coat hangers were a staple lol, the only time i ever picked a lock was when i made the start of my own picking kit while in a recycling company the one day... to many masterlocks to speak of lol
Pretty please can you do a video showing the whole re-pinning process. So putting the pins into the Bible without having to create a practice lock with the filing technique you showed in a previous video. The main reason I ask is so I can modify and re-pin my household locks. Thanks a million, your videos got me into locksmithing and now I can pick every lock in my house and everything up to security pins.
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Search for "(588) How to (RE)Assemble Locks" from Bosnianbill. This should do the trick.
Hello: The most interesting story is Bosnianbill's first steps and actions in learning lock picking. It would be detailed and quite long, but it would be fascinating. What clever tricks did Bosnianbill learn in his beginnings that made him so amazing today? I'm struggling to get to stage one, I think thousands of others' struggle, too.
When countermilling, why did you use a bit that is shaped like a ball? wouldn't that leave rounded off countermilling, making it pick like a normal spool pin? I think you should have flattened off the ends of the cutter first.
I suspect it is just a matter of what kind of rotary tool bits you have on hand. That tiny ball end bit is pretty common in mot of those tool kits and it does a good enough job. If you have access to a different shape that also fits in the pin hole then that would certainly work. A "sharper" counter mill would be nice. But I think Bill was showing what can be done with off the shelf stuff that most of us might already have.
Was really hoping to see the lock put back together and see it work with the key and then even picked again just to be sure you haven't been too good of an evil genius lock maker.
Was there not enough time to pick the lock after re-pinning? Or is this a philosophical question - "Can Bill pin up a lock that he himself can not open?"
LMAO, Master has upped their game. I tried counter milling a lock but even at a low speed my bit cut too fast and butchered it. Much better than my attempts
Hi Bill Love The videos best out there! Just a novice picker,just picking master locks 4 pins now,I am having trouble with some of them whether I rake,spp these 3 locks wont pop open!! I have a row of ten I try to knock off in 2 min or so but always stop at the last 3 locks all blue #3 master locks lol! Worn or damaged springs,pins any ideas never opened these 3 I am on A mission with these 3 its personal since all locks are the same! thanks Bill
Bosnian Bill... love watching your videos, I am a police officer and amateur lock picker. I have a couple questions for you or anyone else that can help me. I have a crappy pick set which is okay for messing around. I am however looking for a better set for work. I need something small for everyday carry that will have the basics in it. A set that I can have on me at all times (at work), that is convenient and not too bulky. Let me know if you have any recommendations. Thank you and keep the videos coming, they are very entertaining and informative.
I personally prefer peterson picks. a slim EDC kit that has everything you need, I would suggest the dangerfield serenity set. its priced really low for what you get. then probably some prybars from either peterson or sparrows . Bill has a review of it btw.
if you didn't figure it yet, a "number 5" is not an M5. freedom measurements. it looks pretty close to an M3, though i have no experience with any of this.
New to pinning. Do drivers generally have to be the same length? Or does it not matter if they're all different lengths? Is there a physical difference between drivers and key pins? Is there a point in putting spools as key pins or should they be mainly kept as drivers?
You don't make a key. He chooses the right pins for the key he has. When a key goes in, it raises the pins, so they'll be flush with the top (or bottom, depends on the type of lock) of the core. If you want to change the pins, all you need to do, is insert the key,and find what length of pins you need to put in.
Keys for keyways like this one, are basically a series of different heights to hold the pins in the correct height. You can theoretically get as crazy as you want, but mostly, lock makers use a set of heights for their pins, so it's kind of a combination lock. For example, a lock with 5 pins, that can have 6 different heights, has more than 15,000 different combinations. The challenge from these kind of locks comes from the type of pins, and those drillings. In any case, keys with extreme bitting (changes in heights) can make it more difficult, there are plenty of tricks that can make a lock difficult to pick, outside of the shape of the key. Of course there are other types of locks that can work very differently, with crazy looking keys.
You mentioned in one of your othe videos that it took a while to receive your order from sparrows, about how long was it? I've got my first pick order coming but can't track it.
yes. it works great for both the core and the Bible. those bits are tough to keep exactly where you want them. I also use the smaller version of the bit he uses.
Brilliant. I bet that makes it easier to get consistent results. One of these days when I get around to making a challenge lock, I am going to keep that in mind. Thanks.
Greetings from Ireland. wow what a great resource. just passed the last few days watching 1 to 71 of your TH-cam clips for beginners. Have ordered PXS-14 SouthOrd 14 Piece Lock Pick Set to keep me learning in my Retirement. Never ever to late to learn new skills! now heading over to look at LOCK-LAB.COM. Keep up the good work, you make a great teacher. Jim, Faithlegg,Waterford.
Word of advice for longevity of you tools you should always manually thread something with a tap and die, using a drill can cause the cutting edge to chip making the tool useless.
use a bottoming tap next time more full threads and if u do it by hand and break the chip every turn will give super sharp threads as with the counter mill use a dove tail cutter will love to trap spools with the sharp edges
I managed to violate the core to that American lock I emailed you about asking where I could acquire new guts and low and behold, it was keyed the same as the Master lock I bought just to fidget with and learn about locks, so my seemingly benign Master now has a nasty assortment of American pins in it as well as some of the commercial spools from the factory and a 6th pin that rides the tip of the key. Come hell or high water, I'm gonna whoop the thieves that the local LEOs seem to ignore that have gotten me for a few guns, some fishing equipment and my damn motorcycle.
just a hint on the counter milling of the bible, once your done the grinding, SHUT THE DREMEL OFF, then remove the tool, gets rid of the "accidental" ground off of edges... :)
bill could I send you some challenge locks I'm tired of messing with. they were given to me. I have to locate some new locks I have done these a number of times. let me know I didn't know if it is allowed to mail you some let me know. thanks great show.
This is why you're number one, Bill. Genuinely helpful vids, no bragging, no boasting, no bs
pro trick: watch series at Kaldrostream. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Cullen Gus Definitely, been using kaldroStream for since december myself :D
@Cullen Gus definitely, I have been using KaldroStream for months myself :D
@Cullen Gus definitely, been watching on kaldrostream for months myself =)
A childhood friend had one of those cheap combination safes where with a bit of tension you could feel the combination wheel hit the grooves.
For kicks I always opened it without him seeing and put something like a little note to wait for him.
This is what I like to see. Thanks for adding something other than reviews and picking locks.
I just spp'd my first lock today! Thank you very much for everything you do Bill! Huge fan! :)
I bought some very nice mills and have been trying to find the time to go buy a great cylinder and here you go showing everybody part of what I planned to do. Thumbs up!
I love when you do videos like this!
I love that fast-forward music, so groovy! 2:41
Man, your videos sure have come a long way. Great job Bill!
I'm always impressed by the feelings you have in your fingers :o and the way you open the security lock ... good job , have a nice day.
Thank you, Bill. This answered a bunch of remedial questions I've been trying to get answered.
"Don't skimp on the lube." Good rule for life right there.
Its a real pain in the ass when people forget that.
***** Well played, that was excellent.
he sounds more and more like the guy from backroom casting couch
"Just going to slide it in the rear and try to rock it open"
Michał Hickiewicz Oh God, what if "bill" is actually "Rick"
Awesome to see you putting together a challenge lock instead of just picking them. Would love to see more of that! And links to your victims who you send them to so we can see their attempts.
You're way more careful doing that countermilling than my dentist is! Loved seeing more about how challenge locks are made.
I think the stories idea is great.Already a few good ones on there!!
The vice seemed to get very excited at all the vibrations!!
great video im a new at lockpicking and this video helped out alot thanks
Parents had a gasbar. Had to use car break in kits all the time and coat hangers were a staple lol, the only time i ever picked a lock was when i made the start of my own picking kit while in a recycling company the one day... to many masterlocks to speak of lol
Great as always. Thanks Bill.
Hope I posted my story right,took me a while to figure it out, not really great on the computer. Thank you for another great video Mr.Bill
love to see the mods. very cool. would love to see you pick it afterwards though.
Pretty please can you do a video showing the whole re-pinning process. So putting the pins into the Bible without having to create a practice lock with the filing technique you showed in a previous video. The main reason I ask is so I can modify and re-pin my household locks. Thanks a million, your videos got me into locksmithing and now I can pick every lock in my house and everything up to security pins.
Search for "(588) How to (RE)Assemble Locks" from Bosnianbill. This should do the trick.
Best intro that I've seen so far. Good video too.
I have been using a cone shaped bit, and I grind the shank above the cone so you can get a really sharp, really flat edge on the countermilling
Great vid.
I've always been interested in learning how to pick but they're considered burglary tools in NY so I never got a set.
Hello: The most interesting story is Bosnianbill's first steps and actions in learning lock picking. It would be detailed and quite long, but it would be fascinating. What clever tricks did Bosnianbill learn in his beginnings that made him so amazing today? I'm struggling to get to stage one, I think thousands of others' struggle, too.
I have one of those locks.. I was also pretty surprised to learn that they have security pins on a lock out tag out lock.
When countermilling, why did you use a bit that is shaped like a ball? wouldn't that leave rounded off countermilling, making it pick like a normal spool pin? I think you should have flattened off the ends of the cutter first.
I suspect it is just a matter of what kind of rotary tool bits you have on hand. That tiny ball end bit is pretty common in mot of those tool kits and it does a good enough job. If you have access to a different shape that also fits in the pin hole then that would certainly work. A "sharper" counter mill would be nice. But I think Bill was showing what can be done with off the shelf stuff that most of us might already have.
Looks like that'll be a fun lock! I hope whoever wins makes a video of them picking it.
Pin #5 seems to have some light serrations in it too... interesting.
Best intro I've seen so far!!!!!!
Was really hoping to see the lock put back together and see it work with the key and then even picked again just to be sure you haven't been too good of an evil genius lock maker.
Was there not enough time to pick the lock after re-pinning? Or is this a philosophical question - "Can Bill pin up a lock that he himself can not open?"
thats just one of those life mysteries..
LMAO, Master has upped their game. I tried counter milling a lock but even at a low speed my bit cut too fast and butchered it. Much better than my attempts
Hi Bill
Love The videos best out there!
Just a novice picker,just picking master locks 4 pins now,I am having trouble with some of them whether I rake,spp these 3 locks wont pop open!!
I have a row of ten I try to knock off in 2 min or so but always stop at the last 3 locks all blue #3 master locks lol!
Worn or damaged springs,pins any ideas never opened these 3 I am on A mission with these 3 its personal since all locks are the same!
thanks Bill
Bosnian Bill... love watching your videos, I am a police officer and amateur lock picker. I have a couple questions for you or anyone else that can help me. I have a crappy pick set which is okay for messing around. I am however looking for a better set for work. I need something small for everyday carry that will have the basics in it. A set that I can have on me at all times (at work), that is convenient and not too bulky. Let me know if you have any recommendations. Thank you and keep the videos coming, they are very entertaining and informative.
tuxedo maybe?
I personally prefer peterson picks. a slim EDC kit that has everything you need, I would suggest the dangerfield serenity set. its priced really low for what you get. then probably some prybars from either peterson or sparrows . Bill has a review of it btw.
Stephen 1982 A Sparrows Tuxedo set will be good enough for anything you might need to open.
Surely without a warrant or probable cause, you won't be able to use these legally and if you have one surely you'll use the hammer to gain entrance.
mad Bob's.com
I would love to get into the Locksmith business. I just don't know where to start. Have any suggestions? I live in Florida.
5:40 You mention tapping a Schlage with a "5". I just finished ruining an M5 tap on the very first hole of a Schlage mortise cylinder. Thoughts?
if you didn't figure it yet, a "number 5" is not an M5. freedom measurements.
it looks pretty close to an M3, though i have no experience with any of this.
is that a hss or carbide bit? either way, pretty hilarious how the dremel could barely handle the bronze.
It was brass not bronze, bronze IS considerable harder. He also should have had it turned up to a higher RPM for that size of cutter.
oh gosh i assumed with all the trouble it was having it was bronze.
how does one go about getting in the challenge lock club
New to pinning. Do drivers generally have to be the same length? Or does it not matter if they're all different lengths? Is there a physical difference between drivers and key pins? Is there a point in putting spools as key pins or should they be mainly kept as drivers?
If you do read this and reply could you label your replies like 1-2-3-4 please
went to the lock picking stories page but didnt see where to add or leave my story.
same here
Glad it is not just me... do we just use the "contact us" link?
Was just going to leave a comment that there's no way to submit a story.
Cool. was hopeing i wasnt alone.
Me too. Sent him a message. Hope it gets posted.
bill - could you please tell me the name of the song in the end? it's stuck in my head!
I'd like to see a video of you picking the lock you out together. Thanks.
Seriously lol... "Maybe I spoke too soon, maybe Master's upped their game there..and there we got an open."
I don't know if you ever made a video on making the key, but I would like to see how you would make a key for the lock you just pinned.
me too...
He's reusing the key as far as i can tell.
You don't make a key. He chooses the right pins for the key he has.
When a key goes in, it raises the pins, so they'll be flush with the top (or bottom, depends on the type of lock) of the core. If you want to change the pins, all you need to do, is insert the key,and find what length of pins you need to put in.
Chilledfish
And I thought locksmiths had more skill than that. But I'm pretty sure they can make new keys for new patterns.
Keys for keyways like this one, are basically a series of different heights to hold the pins in the correct height.
You can theoretically get as crazy as you want, but mostly, lock makers use a set of heights for their pins, so it's kind of a combination lock. For example, a lock with 5 pins, that can have 6 different heights, has more than 15,000 different combinations. The challenge from these kind of locks comes from the type of pins, and those drillings.
In any case, keys with extreme bitting (changes in heights) can make it more difficult, there are plenty of tricks that can make a lock difficult to pick, outside of the shape of the key.
Of course there are other types of locks that can work very differently, with crazy looking keys.
Hey Bill I live in Australia and I've never seen those kind of drill bits that you threaded the chambers with what are they?
CRAZYD3MON96 there called a tap and die set
Oh OK it's just that I've never seen them in any hardware stores I've been in
Holy cow, where do you get those awesome intros?
I'd love if my dentist was as chill as you are!
i love these videos!
i lost my copy of the timelapse song you use, could you put a link to it up on the lock-lab website?
I was hoping to see you put it back together..
You mentioned in one of your othe videos that it took a while to receive your order from sparrows, about how long was it? I've got my first pick order coming but can't track it.
About 10 days unless it gets caught up in Canadian customs, then your guess is as good as mine.
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If only I understood this. :) It's to make the lock harder to pick, right? Eh, I find it interesting. Maybe I learned something, I don't know...
this is a lot easier if you put it horizontal and use a steel pin to keep the milling consistent.
Do you mean you use the steel pin as a depth stop? That sounds like a good way to to prevent you from letting it drift around.
yes. it works great for both the core and the Bible. those bits are tough to keep exactly where you want them. I also use the smaller version of the bit he uses.
Brilliant. I bet that makes it easier to get consistent results. One of these days when I get around to making a challenge lock, I am going to keep that in mind. Thanks.
It does in my experience and no problem
Greetings from Ireland. wow what a great resource. just passed the last few days watching 1 to 71 of your TH-cam clips for beginners. Have ordered PXS-14 SouthOrd 14 Piece Lock Pick Set to keep me learning in my Retirement. Never ever to late to learn new skills! now heading over to look at LOCK-LAB.COM. Keep up the good work, you make a great teacher. Jim, Faithlegg,Waterford.
Word of advice for longevity of you tools you should always manually thread something with a tap and die, using a drill can cause the cutting edge to chip making the tool useless.
I see the Lock Picking Stories page, but I don't see where I can submit my own story.
Jared Meit me to, I can't find it using my iPad
how hard would a lock be to pick if the pin/key chamber was longer with 10-15 pins? i know the key would look funny but im curious
use a bottoming tap next time more full threads and if u do it by hand and break the chip every turn will give super sharp threads as with the counter mill use a dove tail cutter will love to trap spools with the sharp edges
I managed to violate the core to that American lock I emailed you about asking where I could acquire new guts and low and behold, it was keyed the same as the Master lock I bought just to fidget with and learn about locks, so my seemingly benign Master now has a nasty assortment of American pins in it as well as some of the commercial spools from the factory and a 6th pin that rides the tip of the key. Come hell or high water, I'm gonna whoop the thieves that the local LEOs seem to ignore that have gotten me for a few guns, some fishing equipment and my damn motorcycle.
An "Evil Genius" at his best.
just a hint on the counter milling of the bible, once your done the grinding, SHUT THE DREMEL OFF, then remove the tool, gets rid of the "accidental" ground off of edges... :)
I don't understand where do you see different numbers ? They both looked like the number 6835
Would of like of seen you pick it!
Here it is a year later and I'm STILL working on it...😋
where did you get those screw drivers?
Fiendish features to foil pickers!
what kind of padlock style lock do u recommend
I don't think I have a chance in Hell of being able to pick that lock...
Is it t late to enter for the lock give away?
Awesome resmaser
I'm confused on how to summit my story I found where it is but can seem to find out how to do it
Can't*
If you click on those 3 dots to the right of your post you can edit it.
how do i join the tribe? I don't see register option on lock-lab.com
bill could I send you some challenge locks I'm tired of messing with. they were given to me. I have to locate some new locks I have done these a number of times. let me know I didn't know if it is allowed to mail you some let me know. thanks great show.
Sure, here's the address:
LockLab, LLC
P.O.Box 2160
Merrifield, VA 22116
Thanks!
bill
Size 4 as in 4 milimeters? Or 4 potatoes?
Hey bill how do I post a story?
Nice!
Don't worry Bill, I never spare the lube
Spools in a Master lock? Have they been watching your videos?
I was hoping to see you pick your own lock:(
If you weren't taking that apart so fast, you wouldn't have dropped that pin.
Ughhh.... Shouldn't have watched this right before heading out for my dentist appointment...
send it my way.!
I too would like to see your bible repinning technique bill.
submit a story and you are entered to win a prize. that's a great idea! more awesomeness can be found at lock-lab.com
What is this? Som school for thives?
Does the story have to be true? :p
Why is it called the "bible"?
Because it is entirely fabricated! Hah, sorry I could not help myself.
I like it.
Why did you say dentist? It even sounds like a dentist.
yo
I have sent a message with my address on the Web page please send me a challenge lock bill
oy lolz
clip those nails bro.
real helpful buddy.
they aren't dirty. gfy.