The Shop Owner Held THIS Back For Himself! | 1991 Gibson Les Paul Custom Natural Flame Top
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07:33 Is that a Gotoh Nashville bridge, since it clearly says “made in Japan” on it? Or did Gibson have a Japanese company contracted to make them their bridges?
@@auntjenifer7774 I really wish he would put more effort into getting and recording better guitar tones, he’s not doing the fine instruments justice. Honestly the best tones I’ve heard him get was when he was testing the Axe-FX III, maybe just stick with that.
Oh wow that sounds sweet distorted
that is an amazing sounding LP, I love this 90s era ..
@trogly it’s just a colorful pc of maple it’s quarter sawn so the grain lines are standing straight up and down. The figure is also a bit different than flat or rift sawn
Almost looks like a spruce top and maybe Nov 25 in the pickup cavity, very nice-looking guitar!
Now that you say it it does look more like spruce than maple. Good eye!
That's exactly what I thought Engelmann spruce with a slight tint
I agree... Mainly the bottom half.. Hahaha..
That's a really beautiful grain and finish...not usually one for natural finishes but damn. What a Custom!
Not gonna lie: to me trogly = gibson. Always interested in a new trogly video about a gib guitar.
Happy new year. It's got to be that as you said they pulled that one off a line and finished it natural since it has such a beautiful woodgrain to it. I'd bet they periodically did that when they found guitars on the line before there was the actual custom shop. I like the top and how the backs more of the red youd typically see on a mahogany finish and they didn't put on cover plates that were some odd color.
Trogly's in the HOUSE!!!
Greg’s in the HOUSE!!!
@@nathanielvargas3863 Nathaniel and Greg are in the House
1st time this year too!
Trogly, hk, Nathan, and Greg are in the house!!
It's almost a perfect quatersawn maple top. The grain is almost 90º up. Most of the time it's seen in big jazz box (back). Nice
This is a very good example. It almost reaches out and says save me! Some people here (and rightly) are saying it's only a matter of time before the head fails at the crack. However, I think this is a keeper. A future repair or whatever, I think you will kick yourself if you move it on too quick.
Happy New Year Austin, may this year be healthy, safe & prosperous for you & your family (and your channel!) Anyway, love the guitar, I think that natural finish for a custom looks fantastic, very interesting & not just another sunburst finish.
Sweet looking Les Paul. I love the simplicity of a nice clear finish on quality wood.
I work with old wood box gutters everyday and I think it's just in the clear coat. I love it
I've yet to find a wood and coating combination that have equal expansion/contraction rates. living fibers covered in synthetic finishes, sometimes it doesn't work out.
I think that guitar shows signs of a headstock failure - not broke yet but it will exactly where that crack has started. Most likely dropped on end in the case IMO. The finish crack is not a normal shrinkage crack, it's damage from trauma. Steer clear or pay no more than you would for a repaired headstock.
Definitely agree.
@@akasgsvirgil9503 I don't think it's a three piece top. There is a clear center joint. 6:45
I don't think it's a correct bookmatched top though.
@@akasgsvirgil9503 What? No...
I'm talking about the maple top center joint that is very prominent at 6:45.
Now could it perhaps be a 4 piece top? Maybe... 🤷
But they would have to have glued up asymmetrical pieces which is just weird and harder to do so I find it unlikely...
It doesn't even look like completely straight lines in the grain where the extra joints would be which further points to a two piece. But that's a bit hard to see in the video though...
@@akasgsvirgil9503 Looking at it again at 2:56 the flames goes from the outer edge to the center joint in many places...
Matching that in a 4 piece would be one hell of a joint!
It's a 2 piece...
@@akasgsvirgil9503 This is fun! 👍
Look at 2:56 again. You can see flames going across those exact points you reference. And across the rest of the possible joint. That is basically impossible... 🤷
I do see the weird grain in the guitar. I also thought it was an extra piece in the middle first.
But since there is a center line, no straight lines for the extra joints, flames across it it's just cool grain, which isn't impossible...
I really like the straight maple grain and woody finish of the guitar. I wonder what a spruce top Les Paul would be like.
Seems it would make a better Acoustic Top for some reason
Just thinking it looks like an acoustic
Love Natural wood finishes
Beautiful natural finish top! The date inside the pickup cavity looks, to me, as NOV 25. Thanks for another great Les Paul adventure!
Almost looks like a book matched flamed pine top and man it makes me want it
That is one gorgeous LPC. I've got a '90 LPC in white but always wanted one with a natural finish (big Ronno fan). 90's Gibsons are my favourites.
Nice guitar! I'm amazed how pristine the gold hardware has been preserved all these years. I have a '97 Jimmy Page Signature LP and for the few times I've used it, the gold hardware has tarnished quite a bit.
I tried one of those in a store back in the late 90s. I remember the neck was very comfortable and playable.
Its got some sort of different radius right?
Nichols give me that guitar
@@standinsilence Not sure of the neck specs, a little chunky but comfortable to play 👍
Lots of non-ferrous metals tarnish, but pure genuine gold does not. have you tried a good metal polish like Brasso? it will work. I have a Buck knife adorned with brass and the stuff works wonders in a few moments of use. real metal polish will always smell of ammonia. tarnish stands no chance, try it. hardware stores stock it.
@@standinsilence Yeah, the neck on that model is shaved thin in the middle, making it a fast player.
Jimmy Page withdrew support for the mid-90s model though because he wasn’t happy with the results. The 2000s version is much better.
My personal favorite guitar you've done in awhile! The 80s and 90s Gibson's are my personal fav. Ive been searching for a LP from my birthday, but no luck! 8/8/90
What do you mean a 57 decal that got worn off?
A bridge pickup 57 decal got worn off when it is on the bottom of the pickup? Worn off in the pickup route? Worn off while it's stored away?
Okay, I want to hear about this
I knew it was 490/498 when I first saw them.
This beautiful top was made from figured quartersawn maple.
That checkerboard grain pattern in maple is what you get when you perfectly quarter-saw the lumber. The notebook-straight grain lines are also indicative of maple that has been perfectly quarter-sawn. A lot of wood gets wasted to get a perfectly quarter-sawn piece of lumber out of a log, so it often comes at a premium. Most maple tops (and necks) are flat-sawn. Quarter-sawn wood gives more stiffness is the string-pull direction also... as well as the stunning grain... so some necks are quartersawn maple for that reason (EJ Strat for example). Gibson necks are usually quarter-sawn mahogany to aid in stiffness, but mahogany doesn't exhibit the checkerboard grain pattern as well as maple.
My PRS has a quarter sawn maple neck.
This is a dejavu! I own the very same model: mine is a late 2000, which as far as I discovered, was a limited edition specifically ordered by the UK importer to Gibson. I love that guitar, it's one of the best instrument I have ever played in terms of playability and craftsmanship.
Those have classic on the PG; my buddy paid $1K for one new back then.
Where's our "All Guitars 2021" video!?
I've got an 89 LP that is almost mint. No checking at all. Just some fret sprout which I sorted. It's like new to look at
That is one of the best looking maple tips I've seen. Gibson definitely made the right decision going natural finish on it instead of the Heritage Cherry Burst.
Thank you Austin. Summer of 2019, I sold my 1980 Les Paul 'KM' natural finish 2 piece front, for $2000.00 ALL ORIGINAL too. (Of which, I was the original owner. bought from Sightsinger music Santa Ana CA. It was a heavy beast. 12+ lbs.) and that's why I parted with it. I could kick myself for selling it. The moral of the story? I bought it for $600.00 in june 1980. (With case) now over $5000.00. And what a tone monster it was!
Happy new year. Keep sharing.
Kurtiss 👍
THIS is my dream guitar. Wish they made more of these. Literally would buy this in a heartbeat.
It is on my website
Go get it Jenshin!
This is such a cool guitar. I’ve always wanted to find a New Old Stock guitar like this
Too bad we have to wait for shop hoarders to pass away to even know they existed somewhere, let alone see them, or have a remote chance to get them..
@@industrialdb8039 what I'm hearing is find old hoarders and... uh... "wait faster"
Nothing like NOS....
Is there and ultra sound or imaging technology that can show if there is an actual crack in the guitars wood?
I LOVE naturals. There is a 77 Natural with a maple fretboard on Reverb right now that I wish I had the cash for badly. The selling is asking a bit too much for it at $6500 though. I know the price is due to the maple fretboard but it's not in great shape. Most of the guitar is in decent shape, but the one thing that is pushing up the value is pretty well worn.
I paid 1500 for mine but it has emgs in it but it has a maple fretboard and is a 77. I think the previous owner tried to make it a zack Wylde tribute but I’m going to take them out eventually.
yeah trogs, the 90' are the good wood era right??? i have a 1990 "limited colours" edition in transparent black...looks like when u first pour a guiness, black back and mocha chocolate finish...also have a 1996 "limited edition" gold top standard...antique gold instead of bullion...supposedly a precursor to the 1997 40th anniversary...love ur content...cheers brother!!!
I got a new old stock 1990 limited colours edition blue standard earlier this year, to pair with the one I have had since 1991. So I have two out of the 200. It’s a beauty!
@@porieux yup, mine was a new old stock also at the house of guitars in rochester NY...bought it in january 2000...my wife claims it as hers!!!
Mick Ronson look alike. love it
When you have a wide grain , it's a soft wood (it means the tree grew a lot in those years), and as far as maple is concerned , that's not a hard maple .
😢 reminds of a custom classic I had but sold it to fix my bike. A natural finish but it was a two piece top, chrome hardware, trapezoid inlays, the body was like a standard LP but on the head stoke had a flower pot inlay.
I have a 91 LP Standard. Same case as the one in this vid. It is a beast.
Oh my goodness !!! What a gorgeous guitar. I absolutely love natural tone colors on guitars !!! I want it !!!
I played a 79 Natural lesPaul custom. But it yellowed probably from cigarette smoke . It was a beast and the goat LesPaul I’ve ever played
Beautiful guitar. I’d like it a hair darker on the top and it would be perfect. The cracks on the neck are troubling but like you said, it wasn’t stored properly.
6:45 is there something written on the side profile of the top in the pickup route?? Is the switch and poker chip on crooked ?
Did this come from a store in Philadelphia?
Any way a couple points: the "custom shop" decal early on was used for test market and other limited runs like special order runs for certain dealers like the various LP standard models with late 50s features ordered and sold by stores like Veneman and their Music Emporium mail order division, Cintioli in Philadelphia and others starting in the late 70s.
Your concern with finish checking is somewhat mistaken as it pretty much comes with the territory with a nitro- cellulose finish. Yes aging and sudden changes in temperature will lead to finish checking but it's cool, not a bad thing and indicates a more vintage type paint with less plastic in the nitro. My experience with cracked finishes included a 1966 NR Firebird III with beautiful checking all over and watching the finish on a 1963 Melody Maker crack before my eyes in the spring of "81 after opening the case after a long ride from MD to MI. Like watching cracks spread across a frozen pond. Unlike the current Murphy Lab finish situation, the paint on both those guitars remains attached to the instruments. No one is going to be bummed out by checking on a vintage Gibson and a '91 guitar being 30 years old has seen enough wood expansion and contraction over time to show some checking.
As much as this young man knows about guitars.that sticker was so important to him on that guitar I it put a mental image in his head. That them humbuckers were probably custom-made. And everything else custom done by you notice of that one guy that signs them. Trust me I know. He spent 25 Grand on that fake Les Paul custom guns'n'roses of Slash. That had the crappiest paint job fake. That's twenty-five thousand US Dollars.
Nice looking guitar. The tone leads much to be desired though. The pickups would last a couple weeks tops, they sound lifeless clean and muddy overdriven.
The lighter wood near the book match seam is almost like they got a strip of heartwood.
I just saw that Eddie's Guitars has a really interesting Gibson Barney Kessel model that I had never seen before that would be cool to learn about.
It looks like to me like a quarter sawn maple top it is lovely , the headstock looks fractured to me in the usual area that's a shame ..it may be just in the finish but I highly doubt it.
I've always seen you as a top voice on Gibson. But... I hear casino guitars mention the other day and it made me all warm and fuzzy.
What a crazy quartersawn top!
I always love them with brown back and sides
Could the LPCC in the pickup cavity mean Les Paul Catalog Custom?
Happy new year trogly
I like this channel, and the people in fhe comments too. I'm glad that there's no childish people who create fights
Matthew, there’s no room for hate! We’re all here for a singular purpose... to get our daily dose of guitar information!!
@@nathanielvargas3863 exactly!
The early crew is the closest thing to trolls and $#!+ Posters around here and they're all nice people
Ditto Sir
We all love guitars around here, that is what is important when we all get together like this.
All the hate and negativity, who has time for that?
Instead take that energy and play guitar or do something positive for others.
Happy New Year Matthew, glad you found this channel
Date stamp in the bridge pickup cavity reads NOV 25 not May and does the LPCC in the neck pickup cavity not stand for Les Paul Custom Classic?
that model didn't exist for another 25 years yet
I've a 1979 Les Paul Custom Natural which looks very much like the one in the video. Mr. Trogly - when you say they are often improperly stored - what does that mean? Any advice on what to do and what to avoid?
A question. What is the difference between the les paul standard and les paul classic in the 90s era. Im looking to get one from the 90s and I cant find the specs between them.
My favorite guitar and my first one. Les Paul 1992 limited colours edition in FUSCHIA. It's still my favorite Les Paul. Even after many custom shops. That's all hype. My ,92 standard in limited colours is the best one. There's no comparison from any others
That is definitely Good Wood 👍
Very finite clean tone- sounds quality not cheap- nice gain slathered tone too
That looks almost like a spruce top from a nice martin!
Wow that does kind of have the look of a spotlight special.
Maybe a little bit like an acoustic like Spruce it's a very unique top I don't think I've ever seen one like it
What a beautiful guitar!!
At first glance I thought it was a three piece top. Kind of amazing that it’s matched so well.
@@akasgsvirgil9503 that’s what I thought too but I’m pretty sure in the video he said you could see the top joint in the bridge cavity. Guess I’ll have to watch it again.
Very nice guitar...looks great.
Its a beauty. I would consider sending it to Gibson for a refinish on the neck if you want to keep it.
Natural top with ebony? Fabulous.
Sooooooo beautiful , that the 'gold' is sooooooo good as well. Now that's a Nice piece!!
Nice top! Can you give us some advice on how it should have been stored please?
What a Beauty ' everything to like here ...looks like a shipping drop to cause the checking trauma, but it'll be a star itself when the stage lights hit that maple ...and those' tones...
got a link for the original reverb shop you picked it up from? wonder if they have any other cool gear
do you use the same amp each time? what do you use?
Not stored right probably means big temperature swings.
Shes def a looker my blue flame 2013 lefty has a top thats just lovely my sg is all signed inside never
Figured why but I was told 2003 was Last year lefty came from custom shop.
That's a beaut, Austin! Definitely would ROCK this!
Looks kinda like Mick Ronsons custom! But he had the paint peeled off the front of his. He said that it gave his custom more breathing room.
That top looks quartersawn, or very close to it. It shows off the grain from a different section angle, and often gives it a softly "pixellated" look.
This one is gorgeous!
James Hetfield owns a similar one! I believe it's called the "Cliff Burton Tribute" Les Paul
I'm not a Gibson guy but I would definately have one of these. Being a Mick Ronson guitar lover I'd love one if these..
beautiful quarter sawn maple top good wood indeed
6:07 could one of the C's stand for catalog?
That’s a nice 3-piece body.
Serious question
How do you feel about early 2000’s wood on the Std’s?
Does the bridge puts 'made in japan' in the back?
That's one of the best tops I have seen since I started watching you
I used to have a natural LP custom. Sold it many years ago. Wish I hadn't.
I really like this one! WOW!
The top looks almost quartersawn
Absolutely gorgeous
Did this come from Joe Lidgett’s collection? Joe was the owner of Lidgett Music in Council Bluffs, Iowa. The family still has the shop.
I was thinking perhaps Trent Litten, the former owner of Professional Music Center in Clive/Des Moines, Iowa area.
@@robertpurdy4452
Could be. Joe passed away in June of 2021.
Lidgett Music always has/had top shelf Gibson, PRS, Fender, Suhr, Collings, etc.
@@ronaldsmith8966 Trent passed away in August of 2021 from a car accident. I do think he mentioned the guy retired so perhaps not?
Sounds great!
That is the nicest guitar I have ever seen. Including on this show. I love it.
That is a beautiful guitar great find I have to say 90’s gibsons are my favourite
Your videos are a highlight every day
Definitely looks like spruce.
I definitely dig that an whole lot.
New old stock is just so glorious. A nice flashback into what it'd be like to buy a new guitar 30 years ago! Such a pretty beast you've got there, while a burst is my favorite, I'm a sucker for naturals.
Greetings and well wishes from Utah man!
Nice looking guitar for custom players
I fell in love with that guitar but my wife says I have to many now she said one more and shes gone is it for sale?
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That's what they all say,
That sure looks like spruce. Are sure it’s maple? Any chance it is spruce? Would be light weight if so. Haven’t got that far as I type.
5:04 looks like the Gibson usa pu's backplate can also accept 'dirty fingers' style double row of pole pieces too. With the additional 6 holes opposite of the pole pieces that are there. Are all the Gibson usa ones like that? 😃 damn well looks like a spruce top 😂 looks like NOV not MAY to me.
I got the same yellow pick
Very nice guitar.
That is a gem!