Turna is the winner of the edison Italian national championship (not held by Konami obviously, but by a different tournament organizer). He is one of the best Edison players out there.
Turna didn’t put back the ryko with burial because of return in deck. Kampa asked dmg calc to try to bait a book of moon on alius to avoid honest. Excited to see some replays and watch you explore the format 🫡🫡
ahhhhh tbh i didnt know return was ran in this deck until we saw it (makes sense why its played tho haha) , the honest thing also makes a lot of sense. also i looked into oppressions rulings now so hopefully im a bit more knowledgeable about it next time lol ( appreciate the comment though helps me learn the format more
for your edison rulings - the special summon that oppression negates is an inherent special summon. vayu's effect to special summon armed wing makes it summoned by a card effect, not inherently special summoned. so the interaction is as follows: i declare vayu in grave while oppression is on the field. oppression can't negate the blackwing synchro monster's special summon so the only thing you can negate is vayu. vayu is not once per turn and banishes at res, so if you negate vayu with oppression, vayu and mats stay in grave and you just wasted 800 lp. in other words, the ruling is basically: oppression can't stop vayu as you'll eventually run out of lp, and it can't stop the synchro hitting the field cuz it's not inherent special summon
Edison format gives you the illusion of choice when there are actually 4-5 good decks in the format. HERO beat sounded good at first, but as the format progressed and became solved, it proved that it was simply good only on paper. The best deck in Edison format is Vayu Turbo, it consistently takes 1st place whenever there are big events. The fact that the deck can cripple others with royal oppression and not be affected by it, gives the deck massive advantage.
Dortmund ultimate time wizard : Diva Hero (no vayu in top 4 btw) YCS Indiana Ultimate time wizard Hero Frogs Vayu is obviously a tier S deck but there are also other tier s decks like frogs and miracle fusion decks
Much love @TheDBGrinder Ill definitely send you some more replays since I know youre doing these now. GG's to my opponent, I definitely shouldn't have won Game 2 😅😂 Was just ppaying 4-5 decks on rated this morning to feel out where everyone else was at.
Also with the Return>Judgment>Judgment into MST I dont recall what was going through my head at that moment but I wanted to use Turn Player Priority upon resolution of the chain to MST the set. He should've let me and then chained the Torrential to MST, and I would've just been down a card at that pivotal point in the game. If I remember what I was trying to avoid there Ill definitely reply to this comment, but I think I just wasn't thinking at all in that moment. 😂
@d7h7n I believe he was as he's a rather good Edison player apparently. But in that interaction turn player gets 1st action, so he could've had me just waste the card.
When around 14:00 you said he could gemini spark the set ryko i wanna point out it is never the right play. The whole point of the deck is to chain gemini spark to go +0 instead of -1. There is no rush its first turn you can take damage for couple of turns to start going into card advantage. I agree that without shining and the Wind Hero fusion is a bit too bricky for a control deck but it's not that bad cmon ahah
Royal Oppression is useless vs Vayu because it banishes at resolution It's negated, but Vayu and Sirocco are still in the grave and you can activate it again
Diva Hero Beat is pretty much the best deck in High Level Edison right now if we just look at the winrate. I do not like the Deck, but its not a noob trap.
Hard agree with the Herobeat take. The deck needs The Shining to actually get a decent grind game going, otherwise you just don't have good enough value in the deck and what value you do have is very conditional and bricky.
I do the same Honest bluff when playing BW or Fairies, works for Kalut as well. I've done it before and let 2 attacks pass, then at a more pivotal point used the Honest/Kalut in hand to further my position. It also makes them think about Book of Moon/E-Con/etc and could just get them to waste a card. Its the little things. 🤌🫡
How Does he summon GOYO by tuner Plaguespreader Zombie + HH Ocean? To summon GOYO he needs a tuner + a EARTH Type Monster.... Plaguespreader is DANK and HH Ocean is AQUA...????
@@TurnaHS You had vayu in grave iirc so armageddon send sirocco is enough vs that little life Edit: Double checked and you banished it for allure, so I don't think you have a lethal line assuming your list is standard
@@TurnaHS I do think your opponent misplayed a bit leaving the stratos on field, with 2 unknown cards in your hand and 1 set I wouldn't feel comfortable at 1200 life. Gale/Bora, Vayu/Grephyr, any free special + caius, etc.
Oh, what a surprise to be featured 😂 Hello everyone!
Followed you way back for bgs, it's cool to see ya giving a shot to edison. Hope you are having and will have fun😉
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Gg's! Sorry for ripping the Miracle game2. ❤
Turna is the winner of the edison Italian national championship (not held by Konami obviously, but by a different tournament organizer). He is one of the best Edison players out there.
ayeeeeeee good shiii , ill try to feature them more if i see them then : )
@@TheDBGrinderTurna's playstyle and deck are cool
More vids about edison rated? ❤❤
Turna didn’t put back the ryko with burial because of return in deck. Kampa asked dmg calc to try to bait a book of moon on alius to avoid honest. Excited to see some replays and watch you explore the format 🫡🫡
Future fusion also doesn’t start a chain in standby phase so he can’t oppression it
ahhhhh tbh i didnt know return was ran in this deck until we saw it (makes sense why its played tho haha) , the honest thing also makes a lot of sense. also i looked into oppressions rulings now so hopefully im a bit more knowledgeable about it next time lol ( appreciate the comment though helps me learn the format more
for your edison rulings - the special summon that oppression negates is an inherent special summon. vayu's effect to special summon armed wing makes it summoned by a card effect, not inherently special summoned. so the interaction is as follows:
i declare vayu in grave while oppression is on the field. oppression can't negate the blackwing synchro monster's special summon so the only thing you can negate is vayu. vayu is not once per turn and banishes at res, so if you negate vayu with oppression, vayu and mats stay in grave and you just wasted 800 lp. in other words, the ruling is basically: oppression can't stop vayu as you'll eventually run out of lp, and it can't stop the synchro hitting the field cuz it's not inherent special summon
Hi, what about the future fusion vs oppression? Can the abs zero be negated?
@@DimenticatoPiantono you have to Oppression the FuFu on activation.
@@Kampa504 I see, thx, in that case the royal oppression has to be already activated right? Or i can chain to the fufu?
Edison format is so cool I'm very happy that it finally got a ranked ladder so more people have a reason to grind it
Edison format gives you the illusion of choice when there are actually 4-5 good decks in the format. HERO beat sounded good at first, but as the format progressed and became solved, it proved that it was simply good only on paper.
The best deck in Edison format is Vayu Turbo, it consistently takes 1st place whenever there are big events. The fact that the deck can cripple others with royal oppression and not be affected by it, gives the deck massive advantage.
Dortmund ultimate time wizard : Diva Hero (no vayu in top 4 btw)
YCS Indiana Ultimate time wizard
Hero Frogs
Vayu is obviously a tier S deck but there are also other tier s decks like frogs and miracle fusion decks
Much love @TheDBGrinder Ill definitely send you some more replays since I know youre doing these now. GG's to my opponent, I definitely shouldn't have won Game 2 😅😂
Was just ppaying 4-5 decks on rated this morning to feel out where everyone else was at.
Hero wouldn't have lost to vayu game one if he didnt lose 600 for no reason and just forget to gain it lol
Was big tired playing at 8am after being up for >24 hours. Gotta love it!
Can’t oppression future fusion resolving to summon because the summon isn’t inherent
Also with the Return>Judgment>Judgment into MST I dont recall what was going through my head at that moment but I wanted to use Turn Player Priority upon resolution of the chain to MST the set. He should've let me and then chained the Torrential to MST, and I would've just been down a card at that pivotal point in the game.
If I remember what I was trying to avoid there Ill definitely reply to this comment, but I think I just wasn't thinking at all in that moment. 😂
He probably was not aware that TT can be activated at CL2 or higher as long as the requirements were met.
@d7h7n I believe he was as he's a rather good Edison player apparently. But in that interaction turn player gets 1st action, so he could've had me just waste the card.
11:05 there you get the reason why vayu player didn't put back the ryko with burial
6:40 trying to bait a book of moon or something for sure
Should do more of these old format vids
When around 14:00 you said he could gemini spark the set ryko i wanna point out it is never the right play. The whole point of the deck is to chain gemini spark to go +0 instead of -1. There is no rush its first turn you can take damage for couple of turns to start going into card advantage. I agree that without shining and the Wind Hero fusion is a bit too bricky for a control deck but it's not that bad cmon ahah
Oppression I'm sure is only on activation not resolution. Future fusion is resolving when summoning
love these old format videos should make a day out of it if the replays keep coming
HOLy lets go love to see the DB grinder finally able to say Edison and High Rated in the same sentence!
High rated Edison. That's what's up 🤘
Royal Oppression is useless vs Vayu because it banishes at resolution
It's negated, but Vayu and Sirocco are still in the grave and you can activate it again
most work i've seen stardust put in in 10 years
Hell yeah, DB grinder on Edison!
17:42 definitely should of summoned dyna activate torrential
Nice. Hopefully you show the Diversity in Edison format. More than just BW and Diva in the format
im mainly going to upload the Highest rated people , i assume there will be diversity but not TOO much ya know
Love seeing Edison on the channel!
Diva Hero Beat is pretty much the best deck in High Level Edison right now if we just look at the winrate. I do not like the Deck, but its not a noob trap.
bruh i can't believe how lucky the hero player got in g2
Me either tbh, I was cooked 😂
hope you review some high rated goat soon, love the content bro
I hope dbgrinder does dive into edison ladder i want to see e3 vs dbgrinder
Hard agree with the Herobeat take. The deck needs The Shining to actually get a decent grind game going, otherwise you just don't have good enough value in the deck and what value you do have is very conditional and bricky.
I do the same Honest bluff when playing BW or Fairies, works for Kalut as well.
I've done it before and let 2 attacks pass, then at a more pivotal point used the Honest/Kalut in hand to further my position. It also makes them think about Book of Moon/E-Con/etc and could just get them to waste a card.
Its the little things. 🤌🫡
nah nah nah i fully agree with that , wasnt thinking of bluffing honest n stuff
Goes crazy
Oh, Edison ranked on DB?? I see...
if i dont see you in the top 200 ill be sad
That vayu turbo player was terrible lmao
Hard disagree
@@Kampa504 that's cool. Guess you don't know how to play
@@RunRickyRun1991 well I was his opponent in this video 🤣 wanna play sometime and find out for yourself?
@Kampa504 I only play in person
@@RunRickyRun1991 weird stipulation but sure. You going the next RBET whenever it gets announced? Sadly I have to miss Richmond and Indy.
How Does he summon GOYO by tuner Plaguespreader Zombie + HH Ocean? To summon GOYO he needs a tuner + a EARTH Type Monster.... Plaguespreader is DANK and HH Ocean is AQUA...????
it used to not take an earth
@@TheDBGrinder but use an earth monster is an optional condition? Is not mandatory?
3 minutes in and I see the blackwing player miss lethal only to not get punished lmfao let's go HIGH RATED
What would be your lethal line?
@@TurnaHS You had vayu in grave iirc so armageddon send sirocco is enough vs that little life
Edit: Double checked and you banished it for allure, so I don't think you have a lethal line assuming your list is standard
@@salexpie I didn't have a Vayu in grave
@@TurnaHS I do think your opponent misplayed a bit leaving the stratos on field, with 2 unknown cards in your hand and 1 set I wouldn't feel comfortable at 1200 life. Gale/Bora, Vayu/Grephyr, any free special + caius, etc.
@@salexpiesometimes you just gotta hope they don't have it 😅
somehow even worse players than high rated current format players. im seeing a trend chat....
Wanna play for a couple bucks? 👀
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