Off topic but I am seriously impressed by sojungs English in the first interview considering I speak NO Korean. Serious kudos, that’s incredibly impressive.
Yep, LPD absolutely the right ship for the Philippines, 🇵🇭 probably two of them. The OPV they're buying are good too. 😅😅 they need a couple of big ones though.
@@chrysllerryu4171 It's all about political will. If the congress approves it. There is the budget imagine, the government have 5 trillion pesos. The congress have the power to do it. But there are priorities.
The problem is, the Philippine Navy is leaning on smaller and cheaper LPDs so that they can buy more for their small budget. It remains to be seen tho if they want bigger LPD that can accommodate bigger helicopters and LCACs.
Looks like a modernized version of the Tarlac-class LPD which is base on the Makassar-class of the Indonesian Navy which originated from Korea built by DaeSun Shipbuilding also exported to Peru and Myanmar while Indonesia exported their design to the Philippines and UAE which ordered a new larger version.
They should also offer the Landing Platform Dock to the Philippine Navy including the Stealthy Trimaran Hull Ship with Laser Gun and built in AI sensor technology
The Philippines should buy that HDL-10000 and HDF-4000. They look cool together with the Jose Rizal Class, The New Philippine Corvettes and the OPVs from HHI. They have exactly the same design elements.
The HDF-4000 could be offered for the PN requirment for an Anti-air warfare (AAW) Frigate, although it maybe too small to allow for future growth which larger design like the Arrowhead 140 offers.
At least he Philippines is going to buy 6 new OPVs, 2 new missile corvettes, the newly purchased jose rizal class frigates will be downgraded to corvettes to buy bigger frigates. 2 new LPDs from Indonesia is under construction. Can you buy a warship? I think you even cannot buy a yacht. LOLs.
3:20 "design process at this moment" 3:33 "construction start next year (2024)" Delays can be good news if caused by design enhancements: * Long foredeck for 2nd rws cannon behind maingun, & for ffbnw lite vls like seaceptor-ExLS at front bridge * Centerline chimney like its parent design JR-class frigates * ffbnw ciws behind that chimney, thus increased angles of fire. * fixed hangar or retractable hangar * Swiveling decoy launchers (ffbnw or preinstalled) * NO simbad-rc since vshorad missiles can be mounted at rws cannons & when HMGs are upgraded to rws * ffbnw torbuster * Dome sonar (preinstalled or ffbnw) * If there are no apt vessels to which the 6 planned 2D radars will be transferred later on, then scrap 2D radars & use the freed up money to preinstall a small dome sonar or swiveling decoy launchers or whatever is apt. Then later install 3D radars (X if not C) * If no lite vls, then an ffbnw 76/62 Sovraponte in that spot. That might be the better option * The 2 locations of rws cannons also be able to fit 76/62 Sovraponte or at least the NATO standard 40×365mm upgraded to 50mm * Hull extension for a low stern like Silang-class with an HMG port * ffbnw SR-SSMs like Spike NLOS in that existing large space between bridge & chimney; &/or guided naval MLRS * It's ok to reduce max speed to 20kn to reduce costs, it's an OPV anyway. Fast OPVs 30-33-35kn can be procured later Don't get me wrong, hdp2200+ is decent but the PhN order is mainly for Spratly waters. Big difference But if long lead material is the cause of delay, which is likely, then more bad news for Ph
@@watermirrorMy guess for PN OPV , -Surveilance 2D Radar -LPI Radar -Navigation Radar. -No ESM -No decoy launcher -Main gun: Otomelara 76mm or 25/30/35mm (I doubt PN would opt to install 40/57mm later on, they need to standardize medium caliber gun) -Secondary gun: 2 HMGs. -Hanggar -2 RHIBs 25 Knots in 100/85% maximum power.
@@fendy_ may I know why you said no DLS? I mean, this might sound awkward but I prefer if DLS was excluded because the expected pick are fixed launchers (Terma is the expected brand), so if NO DLS, then that's an opportunity to pick the swiveling launchers later on, hehe. But anyway, hopefully there's a low-cost swiveling DLS so that it'll fit the budget
@@watermirror What I mean is ESM and DLS usually installed under one package. So no ESM means no DLS. Take a look on some OPVs in the region. RTN's Krabi class with no ESM and no DLS while in RMN's Kedah class they included both system. Because without ESM you are technically blind to sense a threat which emmits RF energy like AShM RF seeker. EO director on the other hand might be able to see approaching incoming missile but there is no way you gonna cover 360 degrees, all the time. That's mean you don't need to install chaff or flare as OPV is also meant for low intensity conflict. But I could be wrong anyway. Let's wait and see the incoming result.
Parang may operational requirement sila ng LST capability kundi LST type next baka larger multirole amphibious ship customized depende sa anong priority larger operational capacity ng barko yes ang tinutukoy ko ay LHD type with emphasis bilang hospital ship nadin.
@@julianbonues3495 Masyadong mahal ang lhd para sa ph navy sa parehong acquisition at operational cost, hinding-hindi ito masasagot ng kasalukuyang badyet ng militar Ang LPD na may sukat na 140-200M ang magiging pinakamahusay na pagpipilian dahil ang mga gastos sa pagkuha at pagpapatakbo ay hindi kasing laki ng LHD
@@julianbonues3495 malabo nayan na bibili sila ulit jan,mas kailangan nila ang Corvette frigates at mrf,yong submarine malabo rin yon,dahil ang katotohanan bibig lang ang malakas sa kanila wala naman totoong suporta sa modernization program sa military,wala naman saw gera.
3:20 "design process at this moment" 3:33 "construction start next year (2024)" If true, then MORE bad news for Ph, they lost more again at this deal. Existing bad news are: * NO local production (thanks to colonial mentality again) * NO production-oriented tech transfers (thanks to colonial mentality again) * Delayed Pohang offset deal (Ph is like waiting for a newbuild ship to arrive) * + this possible further delays More reasons to remove further support to PhN. Basic support like transport aircraft, used OPVs, among others, are enough MD reported that NavalGroup offered local production of 1 Gowind corvette. So how much more if we connect the 6-ship OPV project to Gowind design adapted to OPV config. Among other local production offers. PhN-DND-Hyundai deal indeed smells fishy
Smells fishy or the Koreans just mastered the bureaucracy in Philippine military procurement. Among the bidders in OPV program like Australia's Austal, Turkey's ASFAT, and other European shipbuilders, they offered some ships to be constructed at their shipyard while the rest at Philippines based shipyards. The problem is, the Philippines has zero to no experience in building big naval ships such as OPV. Austal can easily configure its shipyard in Cebu while the rest will took some time. The Koreans also offered a bigger ship design compared to its competitor that's why it's the reason why they're chosen. There's also the commitment from the ROK Government itself to transfer some retired ROKN ships to PN.
@@cursedcat281 I had never tolerated that Hyundai OPV deal from the start until now, maybe never will. And it's clear my comment wasn't about ship features, but I did plan on making a 2nd comment about features which includes lots of ffbbw but it's a bother. But I guess I'll post it. Hopefully you'll reply, thanks
Well, to be fair HD Hyundai actually has plans to set up shipbuilding facility within Agila Shipyard in Subic. So it may accomodate PN orders in the future.
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That LPD is perfect for the Philippine Navy i do hope next time the Philippines plan to order LPD they choose HHI due to its high quality and armaments on the package
The UAE signed a contract worth 1.5 billion AED (equivalent to $408 million USD) with Indonesian shipbuilder PT PAL for the procurement of a 163-meter multi-mission vessel, specifically a Landing Platform Dock (LPD). This Improve makassar class fit for Ph navy, clean stealth design, and more cheap 🤣..
actually its other way around, they based the design on tarlac class and make it larger. although indonesia made the tarlac class, the design is based on makassar class of SK.
Off topic but I am seriously impressed by sojungs English in the first interview considering I speak NO Korean. Serious kudos, that’s incredibly impressive.
Im excited to new ship of Philippine Navy 🎉🇵🇭watching from Phi🇵🇭 thankyou xavierr naval news
Excited for the 6 HDP-2200+ ordered by the Philippines! As always, great reporting from Naval News!
*5
@@joycaseres925 6 actually
Yep, LPD absolutely the right ship for the Philippines, 🇵🇭 probably two of them. The OPV they're buying are good too. 😅😅 they need a couple of big ones though.
Thanks, Naval News for the side report on the upcoming Philippines Navy ships. And kudos to HHI for accommodating Philippine Navy requirements! 👏👏👏
Philippine navy need this beautiful HDL LPD from S.Korea..
no need, Korea has participated in the LPD tender twice in the Philippines and they always offer very expensive prices compared to other competitors
they can't even afford to arm the tarlac class with 76mm gun and 2 ciws. and you expect them to buy this ship😂😂😂
@@chrysllerryu4171 It's all about political will. If the congress approves it. There is the budget imagine, the government have 5 trillion pesos. The congress have the power to do it. But there are priorities.
@@chrysllerryu4171 The Tarlac Class is already based on this design. The Tarlac Class is derived from the Makassar Class LPDs
this is the perfect lhd for ph navy
Our lsd are based on the hdl-10000
The problem is, the Philippine Navy is leaning on smaller and cheaper LPDs so that they can buy more for their small budget.
It remains to be seen tho if they want bigger LPD that can accommodate bigger helicopters and LCACs.
Looks like a modernized version of the Tarlac-class LPD which is base on the Makassar-class of the Indonesian Navy which originated from Korea built by DaeSun Shipbuilding also exported to Peru and Myanmar while Indonesia exported their design to the Philippines and UAE which ordered a new larger version.
Mas maganda at malaki sa ini order ntin sa indonisia.
Super downgrade naman pag Pinas bumili, hindi malaman kung kulang talaga sa budget o kulang sa kurakot..
They should also offer the Landing Platform Dock to the Philippine Navy including the Stealthy Trimaran Hull Ship with Laser Gun and built in AI sensor technology
Yeah, but the people should first deal with how the Government is dealing with its funds. The You-Know-What funds I mean.
The Philippines should buy that HDL-10000 and HDF-4000. They look cool together with the Jose Rizal Class, The New Philippine Corvettes and the OPVs from HHI. They have exactly the same design elements.
Nope
@@Imbus-Ice Why? Please elaborate.
I'd love to see what they're cooking up for their arsenal ships.
HCX-23 amazing design..👍
He uses a trimaran hull.
The HDF-4000 could be offered for the PN requirment for an Anti-air warfare (AAW) Frigate, although it maybe too small to allow for future growth which larger design like the Arrowhead 140 offers.
Hmm
Better Belharra. 1 be built in France, the rest in your country
We need 2 unit of this kind to support our marines and navy HHI has a good quality standard for the Philippines included defense weafonry
Let see if PN will choose Hanwah Ocean KSS3PN variant for submarine program over Spain and France offer, always a good report Naval News 😊
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That LPD is very similar to the Makassar class.
Thanks for video.
123m lng ang tarlac class.. kahit yung bagong order 123m den... yung sa south korea 145m long at mas mabiles.
Some of these designs look very promising, but the frigate seems to be lacking in missle capabilities.
It's a transport
Frigate had a VLS
The PH has no money to buy brand new warships
lol
At least he Philippines is going to buy 6 new OPVs, 2 new missile corvettes, the newly purchased jose rizal class frigates will be downgraded to corvettes to buy bigger frigates. 2 new LPDs from Indonesia is under construction. Can you buy a warship? I think you even cannot buy a yacht. LOLs.
They have money the imbecile politicians are stealing them in Davao
3:20 "design process at this moment" 3:33 "construction start next year (2024)"
Delays can be good news if caused by design enhancements:
* Long foredeck for 2nd rws cannon behind maingun, & for ffbnw lite vls like seaceptor-ExLS at front bridge
* Centerline chimney like its parent design JR-class frigates
* ffbnw ciws behind that chimney, thus increased angles of fire.
* fixed hangar or retractable hangar
* Swiveling decoy launchers (ffbnw or preinstalled)
* NO simbad-rc since vshorad missiles can be mounted at rws cannons & when HMGs are upgraded to rws
* ffbnw torbuster
* Dome sonar (preinstalled or ffbnw)
* If there are no apt vessels to which the 6 planned 2D radars will be transferred later on, then scrap 2D radars & use the freed up money to preinstall a small dome sonar or swiveling decoy launchers or whatever is apt. Then later install 3D radars (X if not C)
* If no lite vls, then an ffbnw 76/62 Sovraponte in that spot. That might be the better option
* The 2 locations of rws cannons also be able to fit 76/62 Sovraponte or at least the NATO standard 40×365mm upgraded to 50mm
* Hull extension for a low stern like Silang-class with an HMG port
* ffbnw SR-SSMs like Spike NLOS in that existing large space between bridge & chimney; &/or guided naval MLRS
* It's ok to reduce max speed to 20kn to reduce costs, it's an OPV anyway. Fast OPVs 30-33-35kn can be procured later
Don't get me wrong, hdp2200+ is decent but the PhN order is mainly for Spratly waters. Big difference
But if long lead material is the cause of delay, which is likely, then more bad news for Ph
@cursedcat281, yes, as you said, ffbnw is the way
@@watermirrorMy guess for PN OPV ,
-Surveilance 2D Radar
-LPI Radar
-Navigation Radar.
-No ESM
-No decoy launcher
-Main gun: Otomelara 76mm or 25/30/35mm (I doubt PN would opt to install 40/57mm later on, they need to standardize medium caliber gun)
-Secondary gun: 2 HMGs.
-Hanggar
-2 RHIBs
25 Knots in 100/85% maximum power.
@@fendy_ may I know why you said no DLS? I mean, this might sound awkward but I prefer if DLS was excluded because the expected pick are fixed launchers (Terma is the expected brand), so if NO DLS, then that's an opportunity to pick the swiveling launchers later on, hehe. But anyway, hopefully there's a low-cost swiveling DLS so that it'll fit the budget
@@watermirror What I mean is ESM and DLS usually installed under one package. So no ESM means no DLS. Take a look on some OPVs in the region. RTN's Krabi class with no ESM and no DLS while in RMN's Kedah class they included both system.
Because without ESM you are technically blind to sense a threat which emmits RF energy like AShM RF seeker. EO director on the other hand might be able to see approaching incoming missile but there is no way you gonna cover 360 degrees, all the time. That's mean you don't need to install chaff or flare as OPV is also meant for low intensity conflict.
But I could be wrong anyway. Let's wait and see the incoming result.
Here comes the expert.
Very nice LPD. I hope the PH navy would consider buying this and with technology transfer.
naka order na sila sa Indonesia,malabo yan.
Parang may operational requirement sila ng LST capability kundi LST type next baka larger multirole amphibious ship customized depende sa anong priority larger operational capacity ng barko yes ang tinutukoy ko ay LHD type with emphasis bilang hospital ship nadin.
@@julianbonues3495 Masyadong mahal ang lhd para sa ph navy sa parehong acquisition at operational cost, hinding-hindi ito masasagot ng kasalukuyang badyet ng militar
Ang LPD na may sukat na 140-200M ang magiging pinakamahusay na pagpipilian dahil ang mga gastos sa pagkuha at pagpapatakbo ay hindi kasing laki ng LHD
@@pangitko3142edi next acquisition
@@julianbonues3495 malabo nayan na bibili sila ulit jan,mas kailangan nila ang Corvette frigates at mrf,yong submarine malabo rin yon,dahil ang katotohanan bibig lang ang malakas sa kanila wala naman totoong suporta sa modernization program sa military,wala naman saw gera.
3:20 "design process at this moment" 3:33 "construction start next year (2024)"
If true, then MORE bad news for Ph, they lost more again at this deal. Existing bad news are:
* NO local production (thanks to colonial mentality again)
* NO production-oriented tech transfers (thanks to colonial mentality again)
* Delayed Pohang offset deal (Ph is like waiting for a newbuild ship to arrive)
* + this possible further delays
More reasons to remove further support to PhN. Basic support like transport aircraft, used OPVs, among others, are enough
MD reported that NavalGroup offered local production of 1 Gowind corvette. So how much more if we connect the 6-ship OPV project to Gowind design adapted to OPV config. Among other local production offers. PhN-DND-Hyundai deal indeed smells fishy
You get what you tolerate. But if I'm Philippine Navy I'll be pushing hard to at least put FFBNW capability on the ship to accommodate VLS and AShM.
Smells fishy or the Koreans just mastered the bureaucracy in Philippine military procurement.
Among the bidders in OPV program like Australia's Austal, Turkey's ASFAT, and other European shipbuilders, they offered some ships to be constructed at their shipyard while the rest at Philippines based shipyards.
The problem is, the Philippines has zero to no experience in building big naval ships such as OPV. Austal can easily configure its shipyard in Cebu while the rest will took some time.
The Koreans also offered a bigger ship design compared to its competitor that's why it's the reason why they're chosen. There's also the commitment from the ROK Government itself to transfer some retired ROKN ships to PN.
@@cursedcat281 I had never tolerated that Hyundai OPV deal from the start until now, maybe never will. And it's clear my comment wasn't about ship features, but I did plan on making a 2nd comment about features which includes lots of ffbbw but it's a bother. But I guess I'll post it. Hopefully you'll reply, thanks
@@watermirror Lol. It’s not about you, it’s a general message. Don’t take offense, you’re not the main character.
Well, to be fair HD Hyundai actually has plans to set up shipbuilding facility within Agila Shipyard in Subic.
So it may accomodate PN orders in the future.
The Philippines should have modernize it's military like 50 years ago
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That LPD is perfect for the Philippine Navy i do hope next time the Philippines plan to order LPD they choose HHI due to its high quality and armaments on the package
The UAE signed a contract worth 1.5 billion AED (equivalent to $408 million USD) with Indonesian shipbuilder PT PAL for the procurement of a 163-meter multi-mission vessel, specifically a Landing Platform Dock (LPD). This Improve makassar class fit for Ph navy, clean stealth design, and more cheap 🤣..
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Similar to BRP TARLAC❤. Oh wag kang oa sa comment baka ibash mo ko eh😂😅
actually its other way around, they based the design on tarlac class and make it larger. although indonesia made the tarlac class, the design is based on makassar class of SK.
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