Thank you because they destroyed journalism at this for obvious reasons, like the international court said in what are their genocidal intentions, they made mad hamas basically, it is a O C U P A T I O N!!!, Egypt warned them that it would happen, of course they knew it, they NEEDED THAT TO HAPPEN, think !, you can not be innocent in this age, unfortunately many of us are young, and it is not our fault, to be influenced and manipulated, i mean they have influence on the media massively, and are infiltrated in the gov system, to the point of the ''left vs right'' make no sense, making them to serve them first, over their on people, one day you will see it their social engineering, playing with our feeling to push you in their direction, THE POWERFUL over the powerless, i mean how they control the electricity of that entire region ?, long before the mad Zionist cynical plan and the made mad hamas ? that because the palestinian did let them right ?.
This is f*ckin amazing, he is now working with global contributors and they definitely are channel 5 quality congrats, respect, love and success on your on going effort to bring the truth to light
Just had a thought. As much as I respect this for offering a different perspective, a lot of mainstream news criticism is directed at an over reliance on “talking heads”, like, interviewing randoms on the street didn’t pass as ‘good journalism’.
@@Matt-ne8zv however this video and the past few are explicitly covering protests. It's not meant to present any facts or give you new information, it's just meant to share the views of the protestors
@@nmflight42 although I agree, there is no any new information to tell. The war should stop, but none will stop it, because the ones that supply it are earning too much from it.
I love their style of journalism. They offer no opinions of their own. They ask the question and let people talk into a mic. So simple, but effective. She did a great job doing that in these interviews.
As a Palestinian living in the West Bank, this is the first time I listen to real uncensored Israeli voices since 7th so props to channel 5. Though I was anxious the whole time hoping to sense someone’s empathy towards us. I guess I was trying to find a glimpse of hope. I never knew if we are humans in their eyes.
As an American-Israeli living in Israel, of course you are humans in our eyes. Just as I'd hope we are in yours. The problem is that pain and emotion get in the way and lead to more black and white worldviews where extremism can help justify atrocities. I've gotta ask you, honestly, in your opinion - how do you view us Israelis? I know that sadly a lot of the people I know lost hope and empathy for you guys after October 7th...we are led to believe that most of you support Hamas though I really hope this isn't true. I still believe peace is achievable in the long run but a very long-term plan must be put in place, and the leadership on both our sides has to want it to work above all. My dream is for an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza alongside our already existing Israel, for I don't see any other stable result other than that. Like, it's bound to happen that way in the end, I feel. Do you think most Palestinians would be content with that? How many have let Hamas and the other extremist beliefs rule their hearts? Will a Palestinian country actually lead to peace in the end? I sure hope so.
is truly difficult to have empathy to israelis tbh, they wonder why 70% of the world cant stand them yet they spew the same shit no matter if theyre left or right, they dont see palestinians as humans even before october 7, its easy for them to flee the genocide they created but palestinians?? where do they go? even if they flee they get sent back to palestine short after, they expect palestinians to have sympathy for their opressors which is fucking insane! hope youre doing good :/
well there are some slight problems as translation is never 100% perfect within each language. An example might be how they translated חטופים to hostages. While that might be mostly correct, it might miss some stuff, perhaps "kidnap victims" could work better. Another example is הסברה to diplomacy.
I too was impressed by the quality of the translation. There was a single sentence that went untranslated from the guy who talked about the multiple jets he has (he talks about the rank his brother attained int he military) and there is the slightest bit of nuance lost in the translation from the 17 year old. Otherwise, damn near perfect translation
Calling someone a nazi for wanting the war to end while your leader keeps it going, all while knowing what the nazis did to your own people back in ww2 is some insane shit.
based af comment. People have lost the importance of WORDS. Nazism, Fascism, Racism, "Homophobia & Transphobia", all words that are used so very loosely and so commonly they don't even have impact or weight.
You do know the Arabs are the invading for right? Like, they went into Israel and straight up kidnapped people after mass murdering a bunch more. Crazy how you don't even know the basics of the war.
@@MsBhappy Gil-Shuster's shtick is paper-thin hasbara. He interviews an Israeli citizen, it's all softball questions with no risk of "saying a wrong thing", the Israeli is saying what they think, because why wouldn't they? He interviews a Palestinian or someone of lower citizenship status in general, it's all leading questions and you can FEEL the hate he has for them. The whole setup of interviewing Palestinians like that, and judging them for giving less-than-nuanced views about their oppressors, it's inherently abusive and a sick joke.
I can assure you that many Israelis and Jews over the world feel very much that Palestinians are human beings. You don't have to stand on a soapbox like some twitter goblin and announce it to the world that you feel that way. The world is not black and white.
From a selfish point of view, killing 40,000 people in an area where 2 million people live without being able to leave is not the best way to avoid a conflict, either now or in the future. Thinking that some people are more important than others does not help either. Context matters, and everything that happened before October 7 matters. Being Israeli doesn't seem easy, but being Palestinian seems much worse
you guys always forget about the context of every muslim country in the region trying to exterminate Israel for 50 years…if you and your friends t try to kill me multiple times..and you fail. i feel absolutely zero guilt about the physical harm i caused you in the process
@@xduwu1865 I couldn't be more removed from the situation, but from a very exterior perspective it looks like a great deal of generalizations are being made about both sides by both sides - escalating the conflict further and further. It sounds like each side is taking turns using the actions of few to justify another larger reaction, rinse and repeat. It's very sad to see people suffer. Is there a need to see people hurt? Is it about land or is it about hurting people or is it really as petty as revenge (on both sides)? I can't tell. I would like to believe that those responsible for Oct 7 should be held accountable but how does that translate into an entire group of people? TH-camrs, please educate me.
@@123FireSnake Great, now try and interview Hamas and Palestinians to get their opinions of this. Even before Oct 7 they would have cheered any attack. This is not the same. Inb4 (Cant interview them now or Israel doesnt allow journalists). You can look up interviews from the past 50 years then. The last time Palestinians rioted against Hamas they were publicly executed.
The cognitive dissonance of the average Israeli citizen is astounding. Not one single Israeli interviewed even considered the plight of the Palestinian people. Such a dystopian and unhinged society
Most Israelis understand that peace with Palestinians and the establishment of a Palestinian state is virtually impossible until their leadership is one that preaches peace and not the eradication of Israel. There are Israelis who're incredibly dedicated to building peace, there are things such as the women's march for peace and the advocacy for palestinian prisoners movements that aim to bring people together and correct injustice, but an actual peace process is impossible as long as Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza, and as long as the PLO is incapable of managing the territories it's supposed to
No one in South Korea protests for freedom for North Koreans. Do you think that's by chance or design? Do you think South Korea has nothing at all to do with the current state of North Korea? Hell no. It's simply a matter of: yes, they care, but what are they going to do against an authoritarian regime that won't even bother hearing them? Israelis are genuinely humanitarian when they say "Free Palestine from Hamas" but the world's went mad lately and assumes that no, actually, Israelis have a moral obligation to raise Palestinian flags and demand...what exactly? Their own eradication? Right now that's the only thing in the table
Notice how aggressively they cannot be criticized and move into whataboutism. Israel started this war in 1945. Dont think or talk about it though, youre evil if you do
@roggy179 the Netanyahu lead Israeli government has clearly stated that it only wants a single Jewish state. The only peace they want is what comes after annihilation. Netanyahu even bragged while being recorded as having put "poisoned pills" in the treaty at camp david which allowed for ever expanding encroachments into the West Bank and the redefining of borders. You are ignorant if you believe it's only one side that is drives conflict.
@@roggy179 the problem with this comparison is that South Korea doesn't occupy North Korea, they are effectively different countries. The west bank is occupied by settlers who terrorize and steal land, while gaza was under seige and a blockade prior to 10/7. The occupation has to end for the violence to have a chance at ending.
I know that its a meme because one guardian journalist was rude to andrew but they literally have reporters on the ground in beirut. And every news outlet is on the ground in tel aviv
Funny how a Palestinian kid throwing a rock at an IDF tank is considered an enemy combatant, but an active duty IDF soldier isn't considered a prisoner of war.
Yeah the double standards involved in this conflict are staggering. If the bodycount Hamas has makes them animals, then the IDF are literal demons. The numbers speak for themselves objectively.
This is crazy. I remember watching Andrew interview Furries and tinfoil hat dudes at Alien Cons. Now he's got global correspondents covering some of the most important issues of the modern era in an extremely well done and nuanced way. Hats off Channel 5 and Andrew! I wish you continued success!
It’s crazy how these Israelis speak about how they can’t fathom being kidnapped and held against their will. How that is unthinkable and unimaginable. Meanwhile statistics show us that 1 in 5 Palestinians is arrested atleast once in their life time. Many of them without ever being charged for a crime. Palestinians grow up knowing they could be kidnapped any day at any time for any thing. It is part of their reality.
@@KenCubedThere is still zero evidence for Palestinians raping anyone on Oct. 7th. NYT had to admit their story was a hoax. Grayzone, Mondoweiss and Electronic Intifada have done stellar reporting on this issue, you should check it out.
noticed instantly how the reporter stays stoic and doesn't nod or shake her head at any interviewees responses, she's just there to hold the mic and not sway to anything. so important, so different to cnn or fox, journalism giving people a mouthpiece rather than using the cameras for their own
The parallels between many of the protestors, especially veterans and military families, to Iraq war veterans after 9/11 is uncanny. They both realized that the government didn't start the war for the same reasons as them, but for their own personal greed. Honestly, this entire situation is extremely similar to the U.S. government's actions in the Middle East after 9/11.
It's the same playbook, 100%. Just pure sadism. Destabilizing the middle east doesn't even help the US, it disrupts the market for no material gain, to say nothing of the loss of life involved. The crazy thing is, we knew this already. We need an arms embargo yesterday. Biden should be tried with Netanyahu for being complicit in all of this. (No I don't support Trump, he should be in prison too.)
There have been plenty of wars against popular opinion. This is completely different than the war in Iraq. That was for oil, this is for expanding the Israeli territory and fighting Hamas. Incredible collateral damage is a common element I’ll give you that
I’m shocked most people don’t seem to realize how Israel could make this same mistake and draw that parallel - it’s overwhelming emotion, logic is out the door. It’s not an excuse, but it is a reason that we’ve seen before!
As an IDF reservist how sympathizes with a lot that was said here I hard disagree. This is happening on our borders, the north has been desolate for a year, bombed daily.
@@BRANDRUMZ100% It's been tough for me to see how quick folks are to paint an entire people as a monolith of evil. The evil is the governments of these two sides that are willing to cause all this suffering to their own citizens over ideology. Obviously even though we can't poll Gazans I know they aren't all pro ha-m-as and in the same way not all Israelis are pro Netanyah-u. Unfortunately I know a lot of people who don't see that though and consider all Israelis to be inhuman settlers. Hopefully journalism like this will help to wake them up to the humanity and diversity that exists in any culture.
@@tetyanalegeyda6149 true, Nazis were not leftist - I think what they are TRYING to get across is, given the major rise in antisemitism on the left (see the horseshoe theory for context), Jews and Israelis are both starting to get an eerily similar feeling of ostracization, discrimination, and vitriol and see progressives or leftists as enablers. Whether or not it's effective is another story.
@@KenCubed*settlers that profit off of ethnically cleansing and murdering Palestinians en masse, of which each adult has done military service, so participated in the longest running, completely illegal occupation in modern times, effectively running an open air prison in Gaza, forcing living conditions on them that the UN has called insufficient for humans since at least 2017, basically forcing all of the inhabitants of said open air prison to live like caged animals.
@@10010x0x0x01101XX0X1 And people cheer on 43,165 people being killed so you could sling mud around forever and ever with this logic, or you could realize how absurd this all is
@@10010x0x0x01101XX0X1yes ofc, any lack of empathy is bad. But please, don't use the argument of : "but they do it too", you are not a child (i assume)
@@Stormerzombi i assume you are not a child and it should really not be hard to understand that palestinians could end the war and the harm they are imposing on their own children if they could give back the hostages they are holding and raping
Not once did any of those Israelis express any concern for the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians being massacred, who are suffering far more than they can imagine.
@@notanonymous3976 they barely exist. the number of israelis who have protested against the war being a genocide is in the low thousands at most. of those, the ones who object to Zionism/ethnic cleansing/Israeli colonialism is probably less than 500. Most of them wouldn't call themselves israeli though
I thought the same thing, I thought thats what the protest was about. But I guess the attitude in Israel right now is also such that if you express that opinion in the streets you will get beaten down
@@DieGrotsky Exactly this. I assure you that these people exist. There are Israelis with empathy, who care about the atrocities done to Palestinians. It is just a lot more dangerous to express those opinions. If simply calling for the war to end gets you called a "Nazi leftist", then imagine what openly expressing support for Palestinians or criticizing the government for committing genocide can do. They exist. They are just way less public about it for their own safety.
I'm not qualified to make any statement about this person interviewed. But the cognitive dissonance of this person calling someone else a clown, almost made me laugh out loud.
It would also just come back anyway, maybe under a different name. Israel created the conditions to radicalise Palestinians against them, as long as those conditions remain nothing will change
@@Emperorhirohito19272 Israel didn't create the conditions to radicalize Palestinians. The Islamic world writ large could never stomach the idea of a sovereign Jewish state in 'Muslim lands'. The conditions had already been established by Wahhabism in the eighteenth century.
@@Lfgnyc You raise a valid point, there was a religious aspect to their radicalism that had nothing to do with Israel. But don't you agree that the Israeli state did it's part to radicalise them when they failed to prevent the unlawful seizure of palestinian property by rogue Israeli citizens?
Noam Chomsky really said it beast sooooo many years ago.... Excerpted from Chronicles of Dissent, 1992 QUESTION: One of your books, The Fateful Triangle, focuses specifically on the Middle East, and I was wondering if you could talk about your position on a possible two-state solution to the Palestinian question. CHOMSKY: I don’t think that’s the optimal solution, but it has been the realistic political settlement for some time. We have to begin with some fundamentals here. The real question is: there are plainly two national groups that claim the right of self-determination in what used to be Palestine, roughly the area now occupied by Israel minus the Golan Heights, which is part of Syria. So there are two national groups which claim national self-determination. One group is the indigenous population, or what’s left of it - a lot of it’s been expelled or driven out or fled. The other group is the Jewish settlers who came in, originally from Europe, later from other parts of the Middle East and some other places. So there are two groups, the indigenous population and the immigrants and their descendants. Both claim the right of national self-determination. Here we have to make a crucial decision: are we racists or aren’t we? If we’re not racists, then the indigenous population has the same rights of self-determination as the settlers who replaced them. Some might claim more, but let’s say at least as much right. Hence if we are not racist, we will try to press for a solution which accords them - we’ll say they are human beings with equal rights, therefore they both merit the claim to national self-determination. I’m granting that the settlers have the same rights as the indigenous population; many do not find that obvious but let’s grant it. Then there are a number of possibilities. One possibility is a democratic secular society. Virtually nobody is in favor of that. Some people say they are, but if you look closely they’re not really. There are various models for multi-ethnic societies, say Switzerland or whatever. And maybe in the long run these might be the best idea, but they’re unrealistic. The only realistic political settlement, for the time being, in the past ten or twelve years, that would satisfy the right of self-determination for both national groups is a two-state settlement. Everybody knows what it would have to be: Israel within approximately the pre-June 1967 borders and a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and a return of the Golan Heights to Syria, or maybe some other arrangement. This would be associated with maybe demilitarized zones and international guarantees of some sort or another, but that’s the framework of a possible political settlement. As I say, I don’t think it’s the best one, but that’s the realistic one, very realistic. It’s supported by most of the world. It’s supported by Europe, by the Soviet Union, has been for a long time, by almost all the non-aligned countries, it’s supported by all the major Arab states and has been for a long time, supported by the mainstream of the PLO and, again, has been for a long time, it’s supported even by the American population, by about two to one according to the polls. But there are also people who oppose it. It’s opposed by the rejection front in the Arab world, the minority elements of the PLO, Libya, a few others, minority rejectionist elements, but crucially it’s opposed by the leaders of the rejection front, namely the United States and Israel. The United States and Israel adamantly oppose it. The United States will not consider it. Both political groupings in Israel reject it totally. They reject any right of national self-determination for the indigenous popula- tion in the former Palestine. They can have Jordan if they want, or the former Syria, or something, but not the area that they now hold under military occupation. In fact they’re explicit about it. There are carefully fostered illusions here that the Labor Party is interested in compromise over the issue. But if you look closely, there’s no meaningful compromise. The position of the Labor Party remains what was expressed by their representative, who is now President, Chaim Herzog, who said that “no one can be a partner with us in a land that has been holy to our people for 2000 years.” That’s the position. They’re willing to make minor adjustments. They don’t want to take care of the population in the West Bank, because there are too many Arabs; they don’t want a lot of Arabs around, so what they would like to do is take the areas and the water and the resources they want from the West Bank but leave the population, either stateless or under Jordanian control. That’s what’s called a “compromise solution.” It’s a very cynical proposal, even worse in many respects than annexation. But that’s called here compromise and the reason is that we are again educated elites in the United States and national discussion takes a strictly racist view of this. The Palestinians are not human, they do not deserve the rights that we accord automatically to the settlers who displaced them. That’s the basis of articulate American discussion: pure, unadulterated racism. Again, that’s not true of the population, as usual, but it is of the politically active and articulate parts of it and certainly the government. As long as the United States and Israel reject the political settlement, there can’t be one. There certainly have been very plausible opportunities for a political settlement over many years, in fact, just to mention a few which have disappeared from history because they’re too inconvenient: in February 1971 President Sadat of Egypt offered a full peace treaty to Israel on the pre-June 67 borders. In accordance with official American policy, incidentally, but not operative policy, offering nothing to the Palestinians, he didn’t even offer them a Palestinian state, nothing. Nevertheless Israel rejected it, and the United States backed them in that rejection. In January 1976 Syria, Jordan and Egypt, the so-called “confrontation states,” made a proposal in the U.N. Security Council for a two-state settlement with international guarantees and territorial rights secured and so on. That was backed and even prepared by the PLO, supported by the Soviet Union and most of the world. It was vigorously opposed by Israel, which even boycotted the session, in fact, it bombed Lebanon in retaliation against the United Nations, killing about 50 people, no excuse at all, just a fit of anger, “We’re going to kill anybody who gets in our way if you push this,” and the United States vetoed it. There have been a series of such things ever since. The United States has always blocked them and Israel has always refused them, and that means there’s no political settlement. Rather there is a state of permanent military confrontation. That’s aside from what it means to the Palestinians, which is obvious and terrible; it’s very bad for Israel. It’s leading to their own destruction, in my view, certainly to their economic collapse and moral degeneration and probably, sooner or later, their physical destruction, because you can’t have a state of military confrontation without a defeat sooner or later. It’s leading the world very close to nuclear war, repeatedly. Every time we have an Arab-Israeli conflict - and there will be more of them, as long as we maintain a military confrontation - the Soviet Union and the United States come into confrontation. Both are involved. The Soviet Union is close by, it’s not like Central America, it’s a strategic region right near their border, they’re involved; it’s very far from us but it’s a strategic region for us because of the oil nearby, primarily. So we’re involved, the fleets come into confrontation, it’s very close. In 1967 it came very close to nuclear war and it will again. So it’s very dangerous, it’s the most likely spot where a nuclear war would develop, but we are pursuing it, because we don’t want a political settlement. The United States is intent on maintaining a military confrontation.
This video does a phenomenal job highlighting the deep lack of empathy most Israelis have for the Palestinians, no accountability, no remorse, no willingness to elaborate on the pain that their society as whole causes
It stood out to me that in both cases interviewees happened to talk about a specific hostage in-depth, it turned out that they are both soldiers rather than civilians.
@@Dune571Wow, almost like the definition of a prisoner of war applies to all military personel regardless of their method of enrolment to ensure a standard of treatment across different armed conflict. It's almost as if having international laws for war was for the purpose of avoiding unnecessary cruel treatment of fighters and giving a judicial power to prosecute those who would violated said laws. Almost as if being labelled a prisoner of war actually grants you rights and protection from torture and cruel treament. Almost as if it doesn't matter wether conscription is mandatory or not.
@@Paniccccccc lmaaoooo wtf are those numbers, do you have a source? The whole point of the Al-Alqsa flood was to abduct Soldiers, where the fuck are you getting 90% civilians from???
I'm sorry but you cannot be calling active duty members of the Israeli military hostages.That's a prisoner of war. Crocodile tears across the board. So wrong considering the actual civilian men, women, children in Israeli prisons in way larger numbers / timeline than what Hamas did Oct 7
They are hostages because Hamas is not a military force which adheres to the rules of war, they're a terrorist organization. The soldiers are hostages to a terrorist group not prisoners of war to a national military.
@@PrendeIIfor some reason Palestine needs to prove itself .or than any other country that is counting their dead. Look up other conflicts. Palestine has to have a higher standard for counting casualties because of people like u
@@ornlu_the_wolf source of those numbers is literally hamas. that is because palestine is not a country, it's an entity occupied by terrorists. my country was in a war 30 years ago, and we had a region occupied by terrorists too. it's impossible to get realistic data from such regions.
The regime they are fighting literally says they want to destroy Israel, all jews in the world and then the west. You people are so far in your own ass you can smell what you had last year
It's so insane to hear these people talk about humanizing the victims that have been kidnapped, and how we need to understand that they are a sister, brother, cousin, etc with a real life and emotions. And then they completely ignore the 10s of thousands of people that israel has slaughtered in gaza. These fascists don't see palestinians as people, and they're showing that so clearly every time they talk about this "war" (read: genocide). It's also crazy how some of the "victims" of hamas are americans who went to israel specifically to contribute to the genocide, then got caught by the palestinians, and now their family is trying to frame it as if they are some innocent civilian. Sickening and disgraceful...
@@snil4 Do you expect the several thousand people who lost innocent family members to Israeli airstrikes to grow up and feel remorse for the state of Israel?
@@snil4You're generalizing an entire nation of people. It's not like every palestinian is responsible for 'kidnapping' these people's families. So yes, i do expect people to have empathy for palestinians. Also, like i said, 'kidnapping' is a hilarious word choice for someone who went to palestine specifically to join the idf and conduct a genocide.
@@samuelroth544 With all due respect, you might have seen this video, but I don’t think you really watched it. if you actually paid attention, you’d realize that the Israeli protestors are saying that that they are protesting *against* the occupation. The IDF was justified in trying to take out Hamas - a classified *terrorist* organization that were responsible for the kidnappings - but the people take issue with the indiscriminate attacks on civilians and just want a deal to be made to end it altogether and save the hostages. (To the former point, it is admittedly hard not to hit Gazan civilians when Hamas, the territory’s leadership, intentionally makes their bases in hospitals, schools, and shopping centers, and fires rockets from refugee camps, just to use their people as political meat shields.) It is perfectly justifiable to take issue with the current policies of Israel, but from how you parrot language such as “fascism” and “genocide”, it’s clear that you take issue with Israel’s existence altogether. That’s the most fascinating thing of all.
When she stopped talking and you hear her voice crack one final time and then silence not even another question. That was so chilling to me. You just know how much she feels the Israeli government has betrayed the Israeli people (and the people of the world, and especially Gazans) by continuing this war. And now with Lebanon involved, it just gets worse and worse.
We barely heard of this on both right-leaning and left-leaning media. Thank you for this. I love the style, where you let the interviews speak for themselves. You are stepping in where Vice left
My friend was killed by Hamas on Oct 7th, he was a wonderful person, he was working security at the festival and sacrificed his life to save others. He’s greatly missed by people all over the world. I have followed the coverage of this war since he was reported missing, and even I think this whole situation is horrendous, despite my friend being murdered in cold blood. The IDF have gone too far. There have been too many innocent lives lost. There are no winners in war. My thoughts go out to everyone else personally effected by this, and to Channel 5 - thank you for another great report.
That will be extremely dangerous. The IDF routinely assassinates veteran journalists for doing that. I don't think they'd give it a second thought to some kid going around asking Palestinians what they think unless it was in Israeli territory, and even then, the palestinians who have access to Israeli territory would never talk without anonymity.
Exactly. Oct 7th = Gaza Ghetto Uprising. Israelis in this video would be kicking and screaming at the thought of allowing Palestinans to describe their situation.
If no one got me, I always know Channel 5 got me. I hope you guys continue to see success, congrats on the office space. Love your work. People like you actively are working to prevent the world from breaking down into chaos by cutting through the bullshit. Love you guys, from Kansas USA.
It's genuinely scary that these people don't seem fanatical at all, yet no one even mentions the mass slaughter of palestinians. Even if the main subject of the protest is about israeli hostages, how can you get around the fact that innocent people (yes, innocent. Children are not terrorists) are dying every day?
For all the commenters asking "why is no one there mentioning Palestinians": The protest this was filmed at is one of many many protests that are all about solidarity with the hostage families, and are aimed at the Israeli government. to most if not all the protesters, it's obvious that Netanyahu and his murderous government have as much to do as Hamas with the hostages dying and rotting in the Hamas tunnels. what they're all asking for is a hostage deal, that would of course include a ceasefire or the end of the war. The feeling of betrayal by our own government, that has so much blood on its' hands, is overwhelming. most of these protests, especially the ones that are more about stopping the war and protesting the government itself, have the Anti-Occupation block. So some of these protesters do have the Palestinian people on their mind specifically, some are more right wing, but all are opposing the way this war is going, and wanting a safer and quieter future for our people, with a government that values life. that obviously includes some state solution that includes Palestinians. However, Palestinians and the war in general are not the topics of this protest- the hostages are. that's why they're only talking about them. Personally I really wish for a peaceful resolution to this conflict that ends the occupation and lets both people get on with their damn life without constantly fearing death. Amen
That's not really an answer. That's avoiding the elephant in the room because "we're not talking about the elephant". The actual answer to this question concerns the social and religious context through which these people see Palestine and Palestinian people in contrast to their own country/people.
They are not the topic of this protest, but they are the targets of this war. None of these people would care if israel annexed gaza and the west bank. "Constantly fearing death" my ass. Israel has one of the most advanced air forces, the Iron Dome, and the political and economic support of the US. Gazans are surrounded on all sides with no running water, no consistent food aid, and at any moment can get exploded with nothing defending them
This won't stop with Netanyahu being out of power. The whole settler colonialist project of Israel is based on ethnic cleansing and it's gonna take more than just a change of prime minister for this to end. Don't forget that the Nakba was done way, way before Netanyahu. You would think that all of the talks about bringing the hostages home would evoke some sort of empathy with the tens of thousands of civilians who are murdered but apparently not. But, it's good that people understand that Netanyahu and his government doesn't care about the people, just about the money and the power. That's why the USA is allowing Israel to continue. To end the war, end the occupation and the oppression of the Palestinian people.
Lmfao and how would preventing new arms from entering the region do anything to change the situation? They’ve already got enough guns and ammo for years to come. Not to mention do you think Hamas and hazbullah use legal means to purchase their weapons? So what you’re saying you want is for Israel to have an arms embargo placed against them.
@@hydra1870 so your solution is? Also to say Netanyahu is the one who keeps escalating this when hazbullah just joined on the side of Hamas and Hamas started it is just ignorant, both sides are guilty of perpetuating the war my question to you is what would your solution be?
To reply to a few comments here: there are israelis that care about palestanians. The fact that none of them are interviewed here doesnt negate the fact that they exist, which i know as a fact because i am one, and theres many israeli organizations such as standing together and peace now for example,israeli whatsapp groups for raising donations for Palestinian families who got kicked out of their homes, israelis who come to defend the humanitarian aid sent to gaza with their own bodies. I am horrified and saddened about my goverments actions on a daily basis, i pray for the safety of my friends in east jerusalem who get harrased daily, i wish for the endless brutal killing of innocent lives in gaza to stop. Fuck netanyhu, fuck the occupation, we want peace for all.
I’m with you, however, there’s something I have to mention. I’m not an anti-zionist, most of the people in the comments aren’t my allies or are on my side, many of them are Palestinian nationalists masquerading as leftists for equality, they give you likes but if the only thing they knew about you is that you’re Israeli they would tell you to go to Poland, and if you say you don’t want to live under a Palestinian state they would call you a Zionist for not bending far enough for them.
@@Nomad1992 Well, I mean, if you present steelman bullshit arguments as if they're the only possibilities, you will rightly get derision. Have you tried engaging in good faith?
@@Nomad1992 Your ideas are a bit of a jumble, but I mean "Palestinian nationalists masquerading as leftists for equality" I don't even know what this means; it isn't necessary to be a leftist to accept the plethora of evidence for the civilian cost of the IDF's campaign over the last year, which your government doesn't care to scale back and which has broad support in your country. Zionism is literally Jewish nationalism, too, and it's a young idea, practically contemporary to Arab and Palestinian nationalism, so it is pretty suspect to cast aspersions on people who profess to it. "if the only thing they knew about you is that you’re Israeli they would tell you to go to Poland" What I have actually seen is rather pointed criticism of nonsense talking points like "most of the dead are Hamas fighters" and "releasing Palestinian hostages is just letting jihadis loose". I mentioned a very real phenomenon of settlers who fly in from the US or Europe, arrive in the West Bank and squat in Palestinian houses with impunity, and yes, I would say that they should go back home. I cannot speak for comments I haven't seen, but given that I'm referring to a real criminal phenomenon, I do wonder what your opposition to it would be if any. "if you say you don’t want to live under a Palestinian state they would call you a Zionist for not bending far enough for them." This is a false dichotomy, you're saying that the choices available are a Jewish apartheid ethnostate or a Palestinian one. You're positing that, were Israel as a polity (not as a place) ceased to exist, it would immediately lead to Palestinians running roughshod and enacting the Nakba on you. If it didn't happen in any other places where settler colonies were dismantled, why would you expect that here?
@@CripplingDuality First of all, I’m perfectly ok with either a one or two state solution. I’m either pro nationalism of both or anti nationalism of both, the people I’m talking about some of which are leftists are pro only one nationalism, on the whole land. I’m not predicting what would happen of Israel ceased to exist, I’m simply disgusted with the comments that want them to do a nakba on us, or that we should live under their nationalism.
The guy on the moped has a point though, because the Nazis had the goal to destroy the Jewish people. And these far left extremist protests might unwittingly achieve the same thing for Israel due to their ideological opposition to this government. Because they're aiming to stop it from doing what's urgently necessary to defend and ensure the future security of Israel as a country, for the benefit of all the citizens within it (even those protestors). And Nazism was itself a left wing ideology (thus the "socialists" in the name). So it was kinda quite appropriate to call those protestors "nazi leftists".
No not really. I feel like the leftists, even tho i would consider myself more leftist than right, are the first to try to force people to change habits. Yes to lgbt acceptance and less racism of course but people demand you ti tippy toe your way around speaking of issues. You cant say a word that might be gendered anymore. I feel like thats exactly what fascists do. The new fascists call themself anti fashists. As the nazis called themselves anti- oppressionists.
It is dishartening to see in Israel that even in protests from the “left” there is zero aknowledgment of the plight of the Palestinians due to direct Israel action and the terrible humanitarian crisis that they are causing in Gaza. They still talk about “Fucking-up” Hamas when that have already practically leveled Gaza, both with Hamas members and tens of thousands of inocent civillians. If this is the current ground level opinion of the left (or even far-left) in Israel, then this conflict really does have no end in sight.
I think it's difficult for people who are detached from this conflict, who are viewing it on various different forms of media, to empathise with the hostage situation when there is a growing, and disproportionately growing, death toll of women and children just across the border in Gaza. It's a really strange dilemma to reconcile with in my head but I just find myself gravitating towards those who are facing much harsher conditions in circumstances like this. I don't know if anyone feels the same, would be interesting to know.
@@abundantharmony Lol how much more unbiased could they be? Videos I’ve seen they simply interview people and it feels hardly editorialized at all. I guess reality is left leaning
@@yommish Unless you are a hardcore political weenie, you can clearly see Andrew leaning farther and farther left, especially how he glorifies lawlessness. I can't stand politics, and I'm independent as they come, but even I can see it.
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that girl at 8:11 talking about how her friend is a living, breathing person. But so far no talk of the 30,000 killed in Gaza, a lot of them children. Their homes completely destroyed... That's not as bad as ... kidnapping? Where is the empathy for the Palestinians on the other side of the conflict
I found myself grimacing in disgust as I processed what she was saying. An utter lack of empathy for those on the other end of the spectrum. A sickening display of tribalism and anti-social behavior.
Because its a fucking war. What else would it be? Cause i dont really see how people call it a genocide when in ukraine about a million people lost their lives. Also in gaza if the death toll is actually 30 thousand its not all civillians because militant groups dont count as soldiers such as hamas so every hamas „soldier“ is still counted as a civilian death
The poise and understanding these interviewees provide on the complexities of this conflict is such a relief. They could justifiably be screaming their heads off in frustration. It's great to hear their perspectives
Problem is certain religions of peace are about eradication of the religions that are different to them. Eradicate religion, and the world has 90% less things to be at war over.
might wanna fix the typo in the title, it should be spelled Israel. Great reporting as always. Should also be noted that these protests in Tel Aviv happen every week right across the street from the idf headquarters.
The guy at 11:24 "this is a very complex issue". But its really not complex. Its like Ireland with the England. Its like South Africa. Its like the the tribes in north and south America. Its like all the many countries brutally colonized throughout the world. The only difference is its happenjng today and has been happening for 75 years. And its fully backed by the West who are supposed to represent international law and democratic values. Its not just one bad leader in Israel. Its imbedded in the very foundational DNA of what makes Israel. Zionism is founded as a colonialist project and has used genocide and ethnic cleansing and terrorism to assert dominance over the Arabs.
@@yassinedjebbari4819 it's funny to me that when someone tells the history of Israel they are called antisemitic... I feel many terms need to be defined for them. Palestinians are people whose ancestry and lineage is within the boundaries of the land known as Palestine. All three abrahamic religions are represented within this definition. A Muslim is a person who believes in Islam which is an abrahamic religion most common in the middle east. Zionism is a colonial ideology and political movement Judaism is an abrahamic religion that is traced back to the region as well. Terrorism is the use of violence against mostly civilian populations to enact political change. Genocide is the mass murder of civilians through systematic means. There are many more terms I feel people should learn about before getting to use a bullhorn on this subject. I will say it's infuriating when you write up facts based on actual evidence and historical context and you're called an antisemite by a person who doesn't even know any or straight up ignores the evidence and historical context. When they say this is a confusing conflict that has been waged for two thousand years and talk about Zionism like it's Judaism and Palestinians like it's Islam and Israel as "the only democracy in the middle east". There are bad faith arguers on both sides but A LOT of them are pro israel
The fact that you think this is “not complex” is utterly baffling. But Gen z is completely broken, with rigid binary black/white oppressor/oppressed dogma completely devoid of nuance, history, humanity, and human experience. It’s born out of being raised by the dystopian hellscape of the internet, tiktok and every warped social media psyop paying dividends to the Qatari propaganda machine that makes aipac look like Craigslist. The generation is irreparably broken, morally confused, intellectually bankrupt and seething with contempt and dying for violence. It’s a modern version of sado-masochism from leftist’s self flagellating and virtue signaling while simultaneously lobbing verbal garbage and slogans their Columbia professor with the ponytail told them. They’re not taught to think, they’re taught WHAT to think.
I have been watching 5 news for a little while (since your team crossed the border) and I’m really impressed by the expansions you guys have made to your team! Interviewing in Tel Aviv is something every mainstream company still is too nervous to cover you guys are awesome
The 17 year old saying hes going into the military willingly as hes protesting the government and ben is wild like what do you think they are gonna make you do? The ahit you dont want to dog wow
Military service is mandatory in Israel (for both genders), if he wanted to avoid it he would have to either go to jail or fake a mental illness that prevents him from serving. There are many roles in the military that don't involve holding a gun, many positions are doing basic office work or driving people around. The kid simply said he would do what his country requires of him, as a citizen, like all other citizens do. No different from paying his taxes.
This is incredible. The news makes it seem as if Israel is all in agreeance with this massacre but seeing real voices and real people, breath of fresh air. Thank you for what you do.
Thank you for the sentiment and I’m sure it came from a good place. But an occupier is not the neighbor of one they are occupying. Hopefully Palestinians will have the same rights as israelis one day and then coexist
@@Nomad1992 it should be one state yes. Idc what it’s called. They can call it Jerusalem. The occupation and apartheid of Palestinian people will never end as long as they are seen as a secondary or an “other”.
I love how the bare minimum for israelis to be called reasonable is "didnt go to war to kill palestinians but is just sad their israeli brother went to do it instead and got kidnapped". Just shows how crazy majority of them are. Talking about girls who went to the front to shoot civilians being kidnapped and how she isnt just some photo but was a human being. The people she went to shoot at were human beings too not just pictures.
So sad it took more then a year for our voices to be heard, even longer then that, we have been protesting and taking action against this government and all the racism for years. But no one ever hears us.
You would think that after all of the groundwork channel 5 has laid, people would not generalize and associate the views of people interviewed in this video with random other people, understanding that everybody's worldview and focus is influenced by their environment and their own reality that they live. We have the benefit of seeing everything from far away but these people are seeing missiles fly over their heads constantly and half of them are mandatorily conscripted into military service. I don't think it's that surprising that they're worried about changing their government and ending the war when this is their experience.
Womp womp. Their state is maintained through expansionist violence. I will comfortably disregard any israeli's opinion if it isnt: total abandonment of illegal settlements in the west bank, freeing of gaza, total pullout of Lebanon, and ceasefire negotiations on all fronts immediately. If they dont, then they literally dont care or actively support more murder.
It’s interesting how the Israeli protesters never mention the Palestinians but protest for the people they lost… who enlisted in the military… Edit. I’m referring to the first two people who went “missing” were enlisted. But the last KID who was on top of the bus station will be conscripted because he’s turning 18
THIS PART! like they signed that contract. knowing they might face death. imprisonment. and all the other consequences that come with war. i also hate they’re saying it’s a war, no! it is gen0cide.
@@jacobwhitten2664 enlistment is compulsory after high school. and before anyone says you can just claim crazy (religious or mental) and get out of it, that is not really an option if you hope to be accepted as a productive member of society later in your life
@@thestereocupid am I crazy or does enlistment imply voluntary joining of a military? Conscription is definitely different and I understand then why they use the word kidnap even though they are technically still POWs. I think the enlistment word was a translated word from Chanel 5
@@jacobwhitten2664 conscription is simply forced enlistment, which i think is where the confusion is coming in. as to "hostage" vs "POW" that is a trickier issue of international law, the status of Hamas as a non-state actor, and Hamas' long term intentions when taking them.
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can they stop snorting every 2 seconds, this is just unwatchable
Just saying It's not just Tel Aviv.
Thank you because they destroyed journalism at this for obvious reasons, like the international court said in what are their genocidal intentions, they made mad hamas basically, it is a O C U P A T I O N!!!, Egypt warned them that it would happen, of course they knew it, they NEEDED THAT TO HAPPEN, think !, you can not be innocent in this age, unfortunately many of us are young, and it is not our fault, to be influenced and manipulated, i mean they have influence on the media massively, and are infiltrated in the gov system, to the point of the ''left vs right'' make no sense, making them to serve them first, over their on people, one day you will see it their social engineering, playing with our feeling to push you in their direction, THE POWERFUL over the powerless, i mean how they control the electricity of that entire region ?, long before the mad Zionist cynical plan and the made mad hamas ? that because the palestinian did let them right ?.
'is a real' country is a terrorist state
Just FYI you misspelled Israel in the title, love ya.
all gas no brakes to genuine grassroutes journalism in tel aviv. crazy.
wait is this that guy??
@@beamshooterYes.
Ok?
Dumb idiot said Grass routes 😂😂
Channel 5 5 non Custer cuh.
Girl is a really good interviewer, amazing questions being asked with no intention to lead people to a certain answer or to be hostile.
Israel girls way hotter than Palestinian girls
Nothing special 😂
@@gorgegarcia6609keep being mad
I agree. Refreshing to see journalists that are willing to listen.
She's hot too.
This is f*ckin amazing, he is now working with global contributors and they definitely are channel 5 quality
congrats, respect, love and success on your on going effort to bring the truth to light
Just had a thought. As much as I respect this for offering a different perspective, a lot of mainstream news criticism is directed at an over reliance on “talking heads”, like, interviewing randoms on the street didn’t pass as ‘good journalism’.
Literally what Vice use to be. Hopefully Channel 5 can keep real journalism alive.
@@Matt-ne8zv however this video and the past few are explicitly covering protests. It's not meant to present any facts or give you new information, it's just meant to share the views of the protestors
@@nmflight42 although I agree, there is no any new information to tell. The war should stop, but none will stop it, because the ones that supply it are earning too much from it.
She did great. One constructive criticism would be... the lack of rap is palpable in this vid. It is tradition
I love their style of journalism. They offer no opinions of their own. They ask the question and let people talk into a mic. So simple, but effective. She did a great job doing that in these interviews.
black shirt is code for „this will make you think“, the tie is for the laughs.
she did this great, let the people speak.
As a Palestinian living in the West Bank, this is the first time I listen to real uncensored Israeli voices since 7th so props to channel 5. Though I was anxious the whole time hoping to sense someone’s empathy towards us. I guess I was trying to find a glimpse of hope. I never knew if we are humans in their eyes.
As an American-Israeli living in Israel, of course you are humans in our eyes. Just as I'd hope we are in yours. The problem is that pain and emotion get in the way and lead to more black and white worldviews where extremism can help justify atrocities. I've gotta ask you, honestly, in your opinion - how do you view us Israelis? I know that sadly a lot of the people I know lost hope and empathy for you guys after October 7th...we are led to believe that most of you support Hamas though I really hope this isn't true. I still believe peace is achievable in the long run but a very long-term plan must be put in place, and the leadership on both our sides has to want it to work above all. My dream is for an independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza alongside our already existing Israel, for I don't see any other stable result other than that. Like, it's bound to happen that way in the end, I feel. Do you think most Palestinians would be content with that? How many have let Hamas and the other extremist beliefs rule their hearts? Will a Palestinian country actually lead to peace in the end? I sure hope so.
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Of course you are human in my eyes (I'm Israeli). Hope we could eat Humus together one day.
is truly difficult to have empathy to israelis tbh, they wonder why 70% of the world cant stand them yet they spew the same shit no matter if theyre left or right, they dont see palestinians as humans even before october 7, its easy for them to flee the genocide they created but palestinians?? where do they go? even if they flee they get sent back to palestine short after, they expect palestinians to have sympathy for their opressors which is fucking insane! hope youre doing good :/
@@IsraeliDinowont say anything about 14 pages of babies under 1 yrs old being massacred in less than a year though
Just incase anyone is wondering, the subtitles are translated correctly.
Thank you for covering this
well there are some slight problems as translation is never 100% perfect within each language. An example might be how they translated חטופים to hostages. While that might be mostly correct, it might miss some stuff, perhaps "kidnap victims" could work better. Another example is הסברה to diplomacy.
You are right, I meant that the translation is honest and that even tho it isn't perfect it is also not being distorted.
Only Hebrew words I know are “yala” “sabibi” and the Arab word “sharmuta” commonly used by Israelis
I too was impressed by the quality of the translation. There was a single sentence that went untranslated from the guy who talked about the multiple jets he has (he talks about the rank his brother attained int he military) and there is the slightest bit of nuance lost in the translation from the 17 year old. Otherwise, damn near perfect translation
@@thotslayer9914Bro what the fuck are you talking about “leaving the country” you schizo?
Calling someone a nazi for wanting the war to end while your leader keeps it going, all while knowing what the nazis did to your own people back in ww2 is some insane shit.
For real. I don't even know where to start with that. Wild.
based af comment. People have lost the importance of WORDS. Nazism, Fascism, Racism, "Homophobia & Transphobia", all words that are used so very loosely and so commonly they don't even have impact or weight.
You do know the Arabs are the invading for right? Like, they went into Israel and straight up kidnapped people after mass murdering a bunch more. Crazy how you don't even know the basics of the war.
makes you wonder huh, if they are lying now then why wouldn't they lie about the past too ?
@@Afflictamine ok big man lets run it back a bit alright
I was hoping at least one of them would have the courage to acknowledge the Palestinians as human beings
They won't.
@@qozia1370clearly you've never seen the channel: Corey Gil-Shuster who interviews both Palestinians and Israelis regularly and has for years.
In Judaism the human is below the Jew anyway, so not sure what you're looking for
@@MsBhappy Gil-Shuster's shtick is paper-thin hasbara. He interviews an Israeli citizen, it's all softball questions with no risk of "saying a wrong thing", the Israeli is saying what they think, because why wouldn't they? He interviews a Palestinian or someone of lower citizenship status in general, it's all leading questions and you can FEEL the hate he has for them. The whole setup of interviewing Palestinians like that, and judging them for giving less-than-nuanced views about their oppressors, it's inherently abusive and a sick joke.
I can assure you that many Israelis and Jews over the world feel very much that Palestinians are human beings. You don't have to stand on a soapbox like some twitter goblin and announce it to the world that you feel that way. The world is not black and white.
From a selfish point of view, killing 40,000 people in an area where 2 million people live without being able to leave is not the best way to avoid a conflict, either now or in the future. Thinking that some people are more important than others does not help either. Context matters, and everything that happened before October 7 matters. Being Israeli doesn't seem easy, but being Palestinian seems much worse
You forgot about the illegal occupation, the prison camps, attacks on journalists and aid workers etc..
you guys always forget about the context of every muslim country in the region trying to exterminate Israel for 50 years…if you and your friends t try to kill me multiple times..and you fail. i feel absolutely zero guilt about the physical harm i caused you in the process
@@xduwu1865 if you are a zionist we already know you have zero guilt. Just like zionists before, they began massacres way before 50 years ago.
@@xduwu1865 I couldn't be more removed from the situation, but from a very exterior perspective it looks like a great deal of generalizations are being made about both sides by both sides - escalating the conflict further and further. It sounds like each side is taking turns using the actions of few to justify another larger reaction, rinse and repeat. It's very sad to see people suffer. Is there a need to see people hurt? Is it about land or is it about hurting people or is it really as petty as revenge (on both sides)? I can't tell. I would like to believe that those responsible for Oct 7 should be held accountable but how does that translate into an entire group of people? TH-camrs, please educate me.
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See this is what I want. I don’t want to hear from politicians or world leaders. I want to hear from the PEOPLE.
albeit a onesided view of the people, better than politicians agreed
@@123FireSnake yeah your right…
Now do the same reporting to the ultra Orthodox Jews on the West Bank and you’ll see the “other side” of Israel.
Turns out the people are just as fucked in the head as you might expect, even the anti war crowd
For the other unheard side: Oct 7th = Gaza Ghetto Uprising, check out the video
@@123FireSnake Great, now try and interview Hamas and Palestinians to get their opinions of this. Even before Oct 7 they would have cheered any attack. This is not the same. Inb4 (Cant interview them now or Israel doesnt allow journalists). You can look up interviews from the past 50 years then. The last time Palestinians rioted against Hamas they were publicly executed.
The cognitive dissonance of the average Israeli citizen is astounding. Not one single Israeli interviewed even considered the plight of the Palestinian people. Such a dystopian and unhinged society
Most Israelis understand that peace with Palestinians and the establishment of a Palestinian state is virtually impossible until their leadership is one that preaches peace and not the eradication of Israel. There are Israelis who're incredibly dedicated to building peace, there are things such as the women's march for peace and the advocacy for palestinian prisoners movements that aim to bring people together and correct injustice, but an actual peace process is impossible as long as Hamas is the ruling authority in Gaza, and as long as the PLO is incapable of managing the territories it's supposed to
No one in South Korea protests for freedom for North Koreans. Do you think that's by chance or design? Do you think South Korea has nothing at all to do with the current state of North Korea?
Hell no. It's simply a matter of: yes, they care, but what are they going to do against an authoritarian regime that won't even bother hearing them?
Israelis are genuinely humanitarian when they say "Free Palestine from Hamas" but the world's went mad lately and assumes that no, actually, Israelis have a moral obligation to raise Palestinian flags and demand...what exactly? Their own eradication? Right now that's the only thing in the table
Notice how aggressively they cannot be criticized and move into whataboutism. Israel started this war in 1945. Dont think or talk about it though, youre evil if you do
@roggy179 the Netanyahu lead Israeli government has clearly stated that it only wants a single Jewish state. The only peace they want is what comes after annihilation. Netanyahu even bragged while being recorded as having put "poisoned pills" in the treaty at camp david which allowed for ever expanding encroachments into the West Bank and the redefining of borders. You are ignorant if you believe it's only one side that is drives conflict.
@@roggy179 the problem with this comparison is that South Korea doesn't occupy North Korea, they are effectively different countries. The west bank is occupied by settlers who terrorize and steal land, while gaza was under seige and a blockade prior to 10/7. The occupation has to end for the violence to have a chance at ending.
Guardian could never
I know that its a meme because one guardian journalist was rude to andrew but they literally have reporters on the ground in beirut. And every news outlet is on the ground in tel aviv
Its funny that you can always tell who has a few screws loose regardless of the language barrier
He probably saw some shit in battle, it takes a toll
@@sidework1 that’s why a lot of IDF commit suicide because they are doing things over there that are inhumane beyond comprehension
watch your mouth. he has two fighter jets in his yard.
@@PuffyNavel one time on meth , he stole a f-16 and saved his dad from a Iran jail single handed almost.
@@Morpheous2070 I think we all have a cousin who has done that.
The evolution of Channel 5 should be studied.
Andrew has filled the void that VICE took from me many many years ago.
@@SullySupaagreed
@@SullySupa so true
Kind of been declining from the style of his old stuff
@@oliver6287what do you mean by declining, it's expansion is giving them networks to get access to more things/several things at once
Ok, now find someone who can interview people in Gaza, please. THAT will be a truly ground-breaking video for a channel like this.
Thank you
100%
tell Israel to allow news media and journalists inside Gaza.
Corey Gil-Shuster did that a lot pre-war
if they went into gaza they wouldn't make it out alive.
the IDF targets journalists.
Funny how a Palestinian kid throwing a rock at an IDF tank is considered an enemy combatant, but an active duty IDF soldier isn't considered a prisoner of war.
Hypocrisy of the colonial psyop machine
Yeah the double standards involved in this conflict are staggering. If the bodycount Hamas has makes them animals, then the IDF are literal demons. The numbers speak for themselves objectively.
Yup
There wasn't a war going on when they were captured.
@@iCoolaxeyou’re right just an illegal apartheid occupation and active land theft
This is crazy. I remember watching Andrew interview Furries and tinfoil hat dudes at Alien Cons. Now he's got global correspondents covering some of the most important issues of the modern era in an extremely well done and nuanced way. Hats off Channel 5 and Andrew! I wish you continued success!
It’s crazy how these Israelis speak about how they can’t fathom being kidnapped and held against their will. How that is unthinkable and unimaginable. Meanwhile statistics show us that 1 in 5 Palestinians is arrested atleast once in their life time. Many of them without ever being charged for a crime. Palestinians grow up knowing they could be kidnapped any day at any time for any thing. It is part of their reality.
While that is horrible, it's definitely not the same as being kidnapped, murdered, and raped
@@KenCubedisraelis are mad bc israeli soldiers are being condemned for raping prisoners. Judaism completely dehumanizes all non-jews.
@@KenCubedThere is still zero evidence for Palestinians raping anyone on Oct. 7th. NYT had to admit their story was a hoax. Grayzone, Mondoweiss and Electronic Intifada have done stellar reporting on this issue, you should check it out.
@@KenCubed True and that is exactly what the Israeli military is doing to Palestinians. They admit to it themselves, even children.
@@KenCubed that is indeed what happens in israeli prisons en-masse
noticed instantly how the reporter stays stoic and doesn't nod or shake her head at any interviewees responses, she's just there to hold the mic and not sway to anything. so important, so different to cnn or fox, journalism giving people a mouthpiece rather than using the cameras for their own
The parallels between many of the protestors, especially veterans and military families, to Iraq war veterans after 9/11 is uncanny. They both realized that the government didn't start the war for the same reasons as them, but for their own personal greed. Honestly, this entire situation is extremely similar to the U.S. government's actions in the Middle East after 9/11.
It's the same playbook, 100%. Just pure sadism. Destabilizing the middle east doesn't even help the US, it disrupts the market for no material gain, to say nothing of the loss of life involved. The crazy thing is, we knew this already. We need an arms embargo yesterday. Biden should be tried with Netanyahu for being complicit in all of this. (No I don't support Trump, he should be in prison too.)
There have been plenty of wars against popular opinion. This is completely different than the war in Iraq. That was for oil, this is for expanding the Israeli territory and fighting Hamas. Incredible collateral damage is a common element I’ll give you that
I’m shocked most people don’t seem to realize how Israel could make this same mistake and draw that parallel - it’s overwhelming emotion, logic is out the door. It’s not an excuse, but it is a reason that we’ve seen before!
As an IDF reservist how sympathizes with a lot that was said here I hard disagree. This is happening on our borders, the north has been desolate for a year, bombed daily.
@@BRANDRUMZ100% It's been tough for me to see how quick folks are to paint an entire people as a monolith of evil. The evil is the governments of these two sides that are willing to cause all this suffering to their own citizens over ideology. Obviously even though we can't poll Gazans I know they aren't all pro ha-m-as and in the same way not all Israelis are pro Netanyah-u. Unfortunately I know a lot of people who don't see that though and consider all Israelis to be inhuman settlers. Hopefully journalism like this will help to wake them up to the humanity and diversity that exists in any culture.
It's funny how the word Nazi and leftist has a completely different meaning in this part of the world.
In the US or Israel?
I think they are supposed to mean the same thing where ever you are.
@@Skygrey2943The protestor was called Leftist Nazi, an oxymoron
That's how brainwashed Israelis have become
@@tetyanalegeyda6149 true, Nazis were not leftist - I think what they are TRYING to get across is, given the major rise in antisemitism on the left (see the horseshoe theory for context), Jews and Israelis are both starting to get an eerily similar feeling of ostracization, discrimination, and vitriol and see progressives or leftists as enablers. Whether or not it's effective is another story.
@@user-dn6fw1ss1chorseshoe theory is utter nonsense. anti fascism is the opposite of fascism. words have meaning
Fantastic guest correspondent! She hit that Channel 5 vibe with precision.
If you are taken as a soldier you are not kidnapped. You're a prisoner of war
Bingo!
Many are not soldiers.
Plenty of civilians were kidnapped
@@KenCubed*settlers that profit off of ethnically cleansing and murdering Palestinians en masse, of which each adult has done military service, so participated in the longest running, completely illegal occupation in modern times, effectively running an open air prison in Gaza, forcing living conditions on them that the UN has called insufficient for humans since at least 2017, basically forcing all of the inhabitants of said open air prison to live like caged animals.
@@KenCubednone of the hostages in this video were. They were all soldiers. No sympathy for them
Wheres the local rapper? (iam so sorry)
I was looking for it too lol
Unfortunately, BLP Kosher was unavailable on that day
Give her some slack, she's new.
lmaooo 😂
not the time or place for rap, i'm sorry aswell.
that dude looks amazing for almost 50 years old.
Right?!
waded through the nuclear waste of this comment section to find this spec of gold
mediteranean diet
i was thinking the same thing
Free healthcare paid for by the American taxpayer will do that
It impacts me how empathetic they are only to the hostages while completely ignoring any other human life
does it impact you when palestinians were empathetic to their own but cheering the videos of the massacre of the nova music festival?
@@10010x0x0x01101XX0X1 And people cheer on 43,165 people being killed so you could sling mud around forever and ever with this logic, or you could realize how absurd this all is
@@10010x0x0x01101XX0X1yes ofc, any lack of empathy is bad. But please, don't use the argument of :
"but they do it too", you are not a child (i assume)
@@Stormerzombi i assume you are not a child and it should really not be hard to understand that palestinians could end the war and the harm they are imposing on their own children if they could give back the hostages they are holding and raping
Find me Americans empathetic of Iraqis in 2003 lmfao.
Not once did any of those Israelis express any concern for the tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians being massacred, who are suffering far more than they can imagine.
i was suprised, i thought some would be protesting for this reason
@@notanonymous3976 I hoped I would too but apparently not
@@notanonymous3976 they barely exist. the number of israelis who have protested against the war being a genocide is in the low thousands at most. of those, the ones who object to Zionism/ethnic cleansing/Israeli colonialism is probably less than 500. Most of them wouldn't call themselves israeli though
I thought the same thing, I thought thats what the protest was about. But I guess the attitude in Israel right now is also such that if you express that opinion in the streets you will get beaten down
@@DieGrotsky Exactly this. I assure you that these people exist. There are Israelis with empathy, who care about the atrocities done to Palestinians. It is just a lot more dangerous to express those opinions. If simply calling for the war to end gets you called a "Nazi leftist", then imagine what openly expressing support for Palestinians or criticizing the government for committing genocide can do. They exist. They are just way less public about it for their own safety.
4:30 "We lost this war a long time ago." It's true, even if Israel somehow erase the entire power structure of Hamas, the cost is already so immense.
I'm not qualified to make any statement about this person interviewed. But the cognitive dissonance of this person calling someone else a clown, almost made me laugh out loud.
It would also just come back anyway, maybe under a different name. Israel created the conditions to radicalise Palestinians against them, as long as those conditions remain nothing will change
riiiight so lets just let hamas remain then. if the cost is going to be immense either way, it doesnt make any sense to allow Hamas to continue
@@Emperorhirohito19272 Israel didn't create the conditions to radicalize Palestinians.
The Islamic world writ large could never stomach the idea of a sovereign Jewish state in 'Muslim lands'.
The conditions had already been established by Wahhabism in the eighteenth century.
@@Lfgnyc You raise a valid point, there was a religious aspect to their radicalism that had nothing to do with Israel. But don't you agree that the Israeli state did it's part to radicalise them when they failed to prevent the unlawful seizure of palestinian property by rogue Israeli citizens?
Shouting "nazi leftist" is so dumb on so many levels...
They fail to realize that the Nazis were far- left.
@@BazookaTooth707What’s your definition of far left exactly?
Israeli logic is ridiculous and not based on reality
@@zawrator4457 “The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.”
Nazis were leftists. It was a socialist party. With is closely aligned with leftists not the right. Read a book not the news
Noam Chomsky really said it beast sooooo many years ago....
Excerpted from Chronicles of Dissent, 1992
QUESTION: One of your books, The Fateful Triangle, focuses specifically on the Middle East, and I was wondering if you could talk about your position on a possible two-state solution to the Palestinian question.
CHOMSKY: I don’t think that’s the optimal solution, but it has been the realistic political settlement for some time. We have to begin with some fundamentals here. The real question is: there are plainly two national groups that claim the right of self-determination in what used to be Palestine, roughly the area now occupied by Israel minus the Golan Heights, which is part of Syria.
So there are two national groups which claim national self-determination. One group is the indigenous population, or what’s left of it - a lot of it’s been expelled or driven out or fled. The other group is the Jewish settlers who came in, originally from Europe, later from other parts of the Middle East and some other places. So there are two groups, the indigenous population and the immigrants and their descendants. Both claim the right of national self-determination. Here we have to make a crucial decision: are we racists or aren’t we? If we’re not racists, then the indigenous population has the same rights of self-determination as the settlers who replaced them. Some might claim more, but let’s say at least as much right. Hence if we are not racist, we will try to press for a solution which accords them - we’ll say they are human beings with equal rights, therefore they both merit the claim to national self-determination. I’m granting that the settlers have the same rights as the indigenous population; many do not find that obvious but let’s grant it. Then there are a number of possibilities. One possibility is a democratic secular society. Virtually nobody is in favor of that. Some people say they are, but if you look closely they’re not really. There are various models for multi-ethnic societies, say Switzerland or whatever. And maybe in the long run these might be the best idea, but they’re unrealistic.
The only realistic political settlement, for the time being, in the past ten or twelve years, that would satisfy the right of self-determination for both national groups is a two-state settlement. Everybody knows what it would have to be: Israel within approximately the pre-June 1967 borders and a Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, and a return of the Golan Heights to Syria, or maybe some other arrangement. This would be associated with maybe demilitarized zones and international guarantees of some sort or another, but that’s the framework of a possible political settlement. As I say, I don’t think it’s the best one, but that’s the realistic one, very realistic. It’s supported by most of the world. It’s supported by Europe, by the Soviet Union, has been for a long time, by almost all the non-aligned countries, it’s supported by all the major Arab states and has been for a long time, supported by the mainstream of the PLO and, again, has been for a long time, it’s supported even by the American population, by about two to one according to the polls. But there are also people who oppose it. It’s opposed by the rejection front in the Arab world, the minority elements of the PLO, Libya, a few others, minority rejectionist elements, but crucially it’s opposed by the leaders of the rejection front, namely the United States and Israel. The United States and Israel adamantly oppose it. The United States will not consider it. Both political groupings in Israel reject it totally. They reject any right of national self-determination for the indigenous popula- tion in the former Palestine. They can have Jordan if they want, or the former Syria, or something, but not the area that they now hold under military occupation. In fact they’re explicit about it. There are carefully fostered illusions here that the Labor Party is interested in compromise over the issue. But if you look closely, there’s no meaningful compromise. The position of the Labor Party remains what was expressed by their representative, who is now President, Chaim Herzog, who said that “no one can be a partner with us in a land that has been holy to our people for 2000 years.” That’s the position. They’re willing to make minor adjustments. They don’t want to take care of the population in the West Bank, because there are too many Arabs; they don’t want a lot of Arabs around, so what they would like to do is take the areas and the water and the resources they want from the West Bank but leave the population, either stateless or under Jordanian control. That’s what’s called a “compromise solution.” It’s a very cynical proposal, even worse in many respects than annexation. But that’s called here compromise and the reason is that we are again educated elites in the United States and national discussion takes a strictly racist view of this. The Palestinians are not human, they do not deserve the rights that we accord automatically to the settlers who displaced them. That’s the basis of articulate American discussion: pure, unadulterated racism. Again, that’s not true of the population, as usual, but it is of the politically active and articulate parts of it and certainly the government. As long as the United States and Israel reject the political settlement, there can’t be one.
There certainly have been very plausible opportunities for a political settlement over many years, in fact, just to mention a few which have disappeared from history because they’re too inconvenient: in February 1971 President Sadat of Egypt offered a full peace treaty to Israel on the pre-June 67 borders. In accordance with official American policy, incidentally, but not operative policy, offering nothing to the Palestinians, he didn’t even offer them a Palestinian state, nothing. Nevertheless Israel rejected it, and the United States backed them in that rejection. In January 1976 Syria, Jordan and Egypt, the so-called “confrontation states,” made a proposal in the U.N. Security Council for a two-state settlement with international guarantees and territorial rights secured and so on. That was backed and even prepared by the PLO, supported by the Soviet Union and most of the world. It was vigorously opposed by Israel, which even boycotted the session, in fact, it bombed Lebanon in retaliation against the United Nations, killing about 50 people, no excuse at all, just a fit of anger, “We’re going to kill anybody who gets in our way if you push this,” and the United States vetoed it. There have been a series of such things ever since. The United States has always blocked them and Israel has always refused them, and that means there’s no political settlement. Rather there is a state of permanent military confrontation. That’s aside from what it means to the Palestinians, which is obvious and terrible; it’s very bad for Israel. It’s leading to their own destruction, in my view, certainly to their economic collapse and moral degeneration and probably, sooner or later, their physical destruction, because you can’t have a state of military confrontation without a defeat sooner or later. It’s leading the world very close to nuclear war, repeatedly. Every time we have an Arab-Israeli conflict - and there will be more of them, as long as we maintain a military confrontation - the Soviet Union and the United States come into confrontation. Both are involved. The Soviet Union is close by, it’s not like Central America, it’s a strategic region right near their border, they’re involved; it’s very far from us but it’s a strategic region for us because of the oil nearby, primarily. So we’re involved, the fleets come into confrontation, it’s very close. In 1967 it came very close to nuclear war and it will again. So it’s very dangerous, it’s the most likely spot where a nuclear war would develop, but we are pursuing it, because we don’t want a political settlement. The United States is intent on maintaining a military confrontation.
Thanks!
This video does a phenomenal job highlighting the deep lack of empathy most Israelis have for the Palestinians, no accountability, no remorse, no willingness to elaborate on the pain that their society as whole causes
Channel 5 reporting live from tel aviv
totally organic that this vacuous comment would receive so many likes.....totally.
@@sirrom5155 i commented early, idek why it got this many likes lmao
@@alexsaspect5116 wow youre telling me a big channel like this is using bots to farm likes and views?! GASP
@@NetScourge Im not an AI if thats what you are saying bro. i got likes for posting a random ass kelly reference its not that deep.
Schmuck the authority
Thank god we not only have Channel 5 but it is expanding to the globe. FINALLY someone that is honest and shows what people truly think.
It stood out to me that in both cases interviewees happened to talk about a specific hostage in-depth, it turned out that they are both soldiers rather than civilians.
Wow. Almost like the lDF has compulsory service, ya ignoramus.
@@Dune571Wow, almost like the definition of a prisoner of war applies to all military personel regardless of their method of enrolment to ensure a standard of treatment across different armed conflict.
It's almost as if having international laws for war was for the purpose of avoiding unnecessary cruel treatment of fighters and giving a judicial power to prosecute those who would violated said laws.
Almost as if being labelled a prisoner of war actually grants you rights and protection from torture and cruel treament.
Almost as if it doesn't matter wether conscription is mandatory or not.
most hostages are/were civilians, including dozens of children. around 10% of hostages are soldiers.
@@Dune571 You can chose not the serve and take your jail-time. Or flee that awful Zionist ethno-state project of a "country"
@@Paniccccccc lmaaoooo wtf are those numbers, do you have a source? The whole point of the Al-Alqsa flood was to abduct Soldiers, where the fuck are you getting 90% civilians from???
I'm sorry but you cannot be calling active duty members of the Israeli military hostages.That's a prisoner of war. Crocodile tears across the board. So wrong considering the actual civilian men, women, children in Israeli prisons in way larger numbers / timeline than what Hamas did Oct 7
Hey bro can you stop being a Hamas apologist
They are hostages because Hamas is not a military force which adheres to the rules of war, they're a terrorist organization. The soldiers are hostages to a terrorist group not prisoners of war to a national military.
@@osteing3339no don’t speak the truth please shut up 😢
Channel 5 providing world class journalism as always
world class journalism, by presenting "Ministry of health" (literally Hamas) as genuine source.
yes its clear that Judaism is not Zionism.
@@PrendeIIfor some reason Palestine needs to prove itself .or than any other country that is counting their dead. Look up other conflicts. Palestine has to have a higher standard for counting casualties because of people like u
@@ornlu_the_wolf source of those numbers is literally hamas. that is because palestine is not a country, it's an entity occupied by terrorists. my country was in a war 30 years ago, and we had a region occupied by terrorists too. it's impossible to get realistic data from such regions.
No matter where you are in the world if someone disagrees with you they’ll call you a Nazi.
truly the thing that brings us all together
The regime they are fighting literally says they want to destroy Israel, all jews in the world and then the west. You people are so far in your own ass you can smell what you had last year
Kosher disclosure. The jew cries antisemitism as he strikes you.
Yeah crazy how nazis tend to do that also
@@z0mbyz624 you just made his point lol
just watching this video some of these people are so lost in their delusions its genuinely horrifying
Like who?
Says the person who can't even find Gaza on a map.
@@fafolaw as opposed to you Mr expert? LMAO
It's so insane to hear these people talk about humanizing the victims that have been kidnapped, and how we need to understand that they are a sister, brother, cousin, etc with a real life and emotions. And then they completely ignore the 10s of thousands of people that israel has slaughtered in gaza. These fascists don't see palestinians as people, and they're showing that so clearly every time they talk about this "war" (read: genocide). It's also crazy how some of the "victims" of hamas are americans who went to israel specifically to contribute to the genocide, then got caught by the palestinians, and now their family is trying to frame it as if they are some innocent civilian. Sickening and disgraceful...
Hold on let me get this straight: you expect someone to feel remorse for the people who kidnapped their family?!
@@snil4 Do you expect the several thousand people who lost innocent family members to Israeli airstrikes to grow up and feel remorse for the state of Israel?
@@snil4You're generalizing an entire nation of people. It's not like every palestinian is responsible for 'kidnapping' these people's families. So yes, i do expect people to have empathy for palestinians. Also, like i said, 'kidnapping' is a hilarious word choice for someone who went to palestine specifically to join the idf and conduct a genocide.
@@samuelroth544 With all due respect, you might have seen this video, but I don’t think you really watched it. if you actually paid attention, you’d realize that the Israeli protestors are saying that that they are protesting *against* the occupation. The IDF was justified in trying to take out Hamas - a classified *terrorist* organization that were responsible for the kidnappings - but the people take issue with the indiscriminate attacks on civilians and just want a deal to be made to end it altogether and save the hostages. (To the former point, it is admittedly hard not to hit Gazan civilians when Hamas, the territory’s leadership, intentionally makes their bases in hospitals, schools, and shopping centers, and fires rockets from refugee camps, just to use their people as political meat shields.)
It is perfectly justifiable to take issue with the current policies of Israel, but from how you parrot language such as “fascism” and “genocide”, it’s clear that you take issue with Israel’s existence altogether. That’s the most fascinating thing of all.
@@Endead12345 literally nobody in the video said any of that. what the fuck are you talking about.
I feel bad for the tattoo lady. I hope the best for her and her family.
You can feel the pain in her voice
She will be fuel for the hellfire if she doesn't convert to islam ameen
When she stopped talking and you hear her voice crack one final time and then silence not even another question. That was so chilling to me. You just know how much she feels the Israeli government has betrayed the Israeli people (and the people of the world, and especially Gazans) by continuing this war. And now with Lebanon involved, it just gets worse and worse.
She’s so tired and broken she was so right there’s only losers in war
Beginning of the end! Like getting face tattoos.
55th street
5 minutes after this comment was post I made the 5th like
@@motorolasamurai1635 5 is the best number
@@BassiboyTV five is the best number
Hard times
@@netwatcherer 55
We barely heard of this on both right-leaning and left-leaning media. Thank you for this. I love the style, where you let the interviews speak for themselves. You are stepping in where Vice left
Was just thinking the approach is very early Vice.
She’s new, she has yet to master the art of finding a rapper for the video. Respect
My friend was killed by Hamas on Oct 7th, he was a wonderful person, he was working security at the festival and sacrificed his life to save others. He’s greatly missed by people all over the world. I have followed the coverage of this war since he was reported missing, and even I think this whole situation is horrendous, despite my friend being murdered in cold blood. The IDF have gone too far. There have been too many innocent lives lost. There are no winners in war. My thoughts go out to everyone else personally effected by this, and to Channel 5 - thank you for another great report.
Show a perspective on what's happening to Palestinians
That will be extremely dangerous. The IDF routinely assassinates veteran journalists for doing that. I don't think they'd give it a second thought to some kid going around asking Palestinians what they think unless it was in Israeli territory, and even then, the palestinians who have access to Israeli territory would never talk without anonymity.
Israel actively hunts journalists and controls the entire narrative of what's happening in Gaza. They don't let anyone in.
Thats gonna be kind of tough to do at this point in time. Channel 5 would have to get a correspondence that resides in Palestine. Good luck with that
Exactly. Oct 7th = Gaza Ghetto Uprising. Israelis in this video would be kicking and screaming at the thought of allowing Palestinans to describe their situation.
@@M1XEDBAGThat resides in Gaza
If no one got me, I always know Channel 5 got me. I hope you guys continue to see success, congrats on the office space. Love your work. People like you actively are working to prevent the world from breaking down into chaos by cutting through the bullshit. Love you guys, from Kansas USA.
great album, the one in your pfp
It's telling that as concerned as they are for their own, there is zero mention of the plight of Palestinians.
Looks like it's about time someone made a journalism platform Vice wished it was.
It's genuinely scary that these people don't seem fanatical at all, yet no one even mentions the mass slaughter of palestinians. Even if the main subject of the protest is about israeli hostages, how can you get around the fact that innocent people (yes, innocent. Children are not terrorists) are dying every day?
That first girl was brilliant. Ilan Papé says the same, this is the beginning of the end for Israel.
For all the commenters asking "why is no one there mentioning Palestinians":
The protest this was filmed at is one of many many protests that are all about solidarity with the hostage families, and are aimed at the Israeli government. to most if not all the protesters, it's obvious that Netanyahu and his murderous government have as much to do as Hamas with the hostages dying and rotting in the Hamas tunnels. what they're all asking for is a hostage deal, that would of course include a ceasefire or the end of the war. The feeling of betrayal by our own government, that has so much blood on its' hands, is overwhelming. most of these protests, especially the ones that are more about stopping the war and protesting the government itself, have the Anti-Occupation block.
So some of these protesters do have the Palestinian people on their mind specifically, some are more right wing, but all are opposing the way this war is going, and wanting a safer and quieter future for our people, with a government that values life. that obviously includes some state solution that includes Palestinians.
However, Palestinians and the war in general are not the topics of this protest- the hostages are. that's why they're only talking about them.
Personally I really wish for a peaceful resolution to this conflict that ends the occupation and lets both people get on with their damn life without constantly fearing death. Amen
That's not really an answer. That's avoiding the elephant in the room because "we're not talking about the elephant". The actual answer to this question concerns the social and religious context through which these people see Palestine and Palestinian people in contrast to their own country/people.
They are not the topic of this protest, but they are the targets of this war. None of these people would care if israel annexed gaza and the west bank. "Constantly fearing death" my ass. Israel has one of the most advanced air forces, the Iron Dome, and the political and economic support of the US. Gazans are surrounded on all sides with no running water, no consistent food aid, and at any moment can get exploded with nothing defending them
This won't stop with Netanyahu being out of power. The whole settler colonialist project of Israel is based on ethnic cleansing and it's gonna take more than just a change of prime minister for this to end. Don't forget that the Nakba was done way, way before Netanyahu. You would think that all of the talks about bringing the hostages home would evoke some sort of empathy with the tens of thousands of civilians who are murdered but apparently not. But, it's good that people understand that Netanyahu and his government doesn't care about the people, just about the money and the power. That's why the USA is allowing Israel to continue.
To end the war, end the occupation and the oppression of the Palestinian people.
Most Americans are brainwashed nowadays don’t waste any energy trying to reason with them
The two are fundamentally related.
We cannot have a ceasefire, the return of hostages, or anything resembling peace in the region without an arms embargo.
Lmfao and how would preventing new arms from entering the region do anything to change the situation? They’ve already got enough guns and ammo for years to come. Not to mention do you think Hamas and hazbullah use legal means to purchase their weapons? So what you’re saying you want is for Israel to have an arms embargo placed against them.
@@Cdogger69420 Yes, considering it is Netanyahu who keeps refusing the peace deals and escalating the conflict that would make the most sense.
@@hydra1870 so your solution is? Also to say Netanyahu is the one who keeps escalating this when hazbullah just joined on the side of Hamas and Hamas started it is just ignorant, both sides are guilty of perpetuating the war my question to you is what would your solution be?
impossible, hamas keeps getting arms
jihadi will never surrender
Bombay beach is the most absurd place for an HQ
Just looked at this town on google street view holy fuck its sandy shores
lol, the office must be in the back of the SKI INN
Truly, the only choice that makes sense.
He's not actually in Bombay. Trust me, I live there.
To reply to a few comments here: there are israelis that care about palestanians. The fact that none of them are interviewed here doesnt negate the fact that they exist, which i know as a fact because i am one, and theres many israeli organizations such as standing together and peace now for example,israeli whatsapp groups for raising donations for Palestinian families who got kicked out of their homes, israelis who come to defend the humanitarian aid sent to gaza with their own bodies. I am horrified and saddened about my goverments actions on a daily basis, i pray for the safety of my friends in east jerusalem who get harrased daily, i wish for the endless brutal killing of innocent lives in gaza to stop. Fuck netanyhu, fuck the occupation, we want peace for all.
I’m with you, however, there’s something I have to mention. I’m not an anti-zionist, most of the people in the comments aren’t my allies or are on my side, many of them are Palestinian nationalists masquerading as leftists for equality, they give you likes but if the only thing they knew about you is that you’re Israeli they would tell you to go to Poland, and if you say you don’t want to live under a Palestinian state they would call you a Zionist for not bending far enough for them.
@@Nomad1992 Well, I mean, if you present steelman bullshit arguments as if they're the only possibilities, you will rightly get derision. Have you tried engaging in good faith?
@@Nomad1992 Your ideas are a bit of a jumble, but I mean
"Palestinian nationalists masquerading as leftists for equality"
I don't even know what this means; it isn't necessary to be a leftist to accept the plethora of evidence for the civilian cost of the IDF's campaign over the last year, which your government doesn't care to scale back and which has broad support in your country. Zionism is literally Jewish nationalism, too, and it's a young idea, practically contemporary to Arab and Palestinian nationalism, so it is pretty suspect to cast aspersions on people who profess to it.
"if the only thing they knew about you is that you’re Israeli they would tell you to go to Poland"
What I have actually seen is rather pointed criticism of nonsense talking points like "most of the dead are Hamas fighters" and "releasing Palestinian hostages is just letting jihadis loose". I mentioned a very real phenomenon of settlers who fly in from the US or Europe, arrive in the West Bank and squat in Palestinian houses with impunity, and yes, I would say that they should go back home. I cannot speak for comments I haven't seen, but given that I'm referring to a real criminal phenomenon, I do wonder what your opposition to it would be if any.
"if you say you don’t want to live under a Palestinian state they would call you a Zionist for not bending far enough for them."
This is a false dichotomy, you're saying that the choices available are a Jewish apartheid ethnostate or a Palestinian one. You're positing that, were Israel as a polity (not as a place) ceased to exist, it would immediately lead to Palestinians running roughshod and enacting the Nakba on you. If it didn't happen in any other places where settler colonies were dismantled, why would you expect that here?
@@CripplingDuality First of all, I’m perfectly ok with either a one or two state solution. I’m either pro nationalism of both or anti nationalism of both, the people I’m talking about some of which are leftists are pro only one nationalism, on the whole land.
I’m not predicting what would happen of Israel ceased to exist, I’m simply disgusted with the comments that want them to do a nakba on us, or that we should live under their nationalism.
@@CripplingDuality Nobody who tells us to go to Poland or our homes references the settlers
Bro got fucked by a global news organization and now built his own global news organization lol
"Nazi leftist". Just let the idiocy of that sink in.
Seems about right
The guy on the moped has a point though, because the Nazis had the goal to destroy the Jewish people. And these far left extremist protests might unwittingly achieve the same thing for Israel due to their ideological opposition to this government. Because they're aiming to stop it from doing what's urgently necessary to defend and ensure the future security of Israel as a country, for the benefit of all the citizens within it (even those protestors).
And Nazism was itself a left wing ideology (thus the "socialists" in the name).
So it was kinda quite appropriate to call those protestors "nazi leftists".
No not really. I feel like the leftists, even tho i would consider myself more leftist than right, are the first to try to force people to change habits. Yes to lgbt acceptance and less racism of course but people demand you ti tippy toe your way around speaking of issues. You cant say a word that might be gendered anymore. I feel like thats exactly what fascists do. The new fascists call themself anti fashists. As the nazis called themselves anti- oppressionists.
he a leftist who wants a policy which endangers israeli jews. in this context, this leftie is a nazi not difficult to understand
It is dishartening to see in Israel that even in protests from the “left” there is zero aknowledgment of the plight of the Palestinians due to direct Israel action and the terrible humanitarian crisis that they are causing in Gaza. They still talk about “Fucking-up” Hamas when that have already practically leveled Gaza, both with Hamas members and tens of thousands of inocent civillians. If this is the current ground level opinion of the left (or even far-left) in Israel, then this conflict really does have no end in sight.
Bro this is the best news channel! All different angles, perspectives, people, various topics, etc. It's absolutely amazing!
I think it's difficult for people who are detached from this conflict, who are viewing it on various different forms of media, to empathise with the hostage situation when there is a growing, and disproportionately growing, death toll of women and children just across the border in Gaza. It's a really strange dilemma to reconcile with in my head but I just find myself gravitating towards those who are facing much harsher conditions in circumstances like this. I don't know if anyone feels the same, would be interesting to know.
Victim complexes amongst the ones doing the massacres. So real
Living in ignorant bliss until their club friends dont come back 🥴 free palestine
1500 v 42000
Snow leopards aren’t leopards at all, they are far more closely related to tigers!
Thanks for the info Neighbor Nick!
Is this algo stuff?
@@pr3historic647 No, it's Neighbor Nick.
@@lucariotheriolu6220 no problem man I love spreading nature knowledge!
i think this is a reference to "leopards ate my face" but i can't seem to parse it
Hostages are dying because of Israel's strategies, not in spite of it..look up Hannibal Directive
Channel 5 is the new VICE
ver never say that VICE is a trash lefty news group (not that being a lefty is bad but being a lefty or righter in NEWS is bad
yea, lefty garbo
@@abundantharmony Lol how much more unbiased could they be? Videos I’ve seen they simply interview people and it feels hardly editorialized at all. I guess reality is left leaning
@@yommish Unless you are a hardcore political weenie, you can clearly see Andrew leaning farther and farther left, especially how he glorifies lawlessness. I can't stand politics, and I'm independent as they come, but even I can see it.
@@abundantharmony can you give me an example?
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Real shit this channel has become one of my most trusted news sources. This is the forefront of journalism for the modern era and I appreciate the content being produced immensely.
truly the most important channel on youtube
that girl at 8:11 talking about how her friend is a living, breathing person. But so far no talk of the 30,000 killed in Gaza, a lot of them children. Their homes completely destroyed... That's not as bad as ... kidnapping? Where is the empathy for the Palestinians on the other side of the conflict
I found myself grimacing in disgust as I processed what she was saying. An utter lack of empathy for those on the other end of the spectrum. A sickening display of tribalism and anti-social behavior.
@@godsstrongestschizo There's a whole lot of cognitive dissonance going on...
why would she care bout ppl who would cheer their death lmao, both sides are right caring more about their victims
@@godsstrongestschizo Same goes for you.
FREE PALESTINE. FREE LEBANON.
that's exactly what israel is doing
@@michaelaksen8675Ahhh yes, freeing them from their homes and possessions. “If i don’t take it, someone else will” lmao
Free Palestine from Hamas.
Free Lebanon from Hezbollah.
Free Israel from Netanyahu.
Thanks for the unbiased journalism. As long as it stays that way, you have my subscription. God bless you
They keep saying "war"
Not one drop of empathy for Palestinian lives.
Because its a fucking war. What else would it be? Cause i dont really see how people call it a genocide when in ukraine about a million people lost their lives. Also in gaza if the death toll is actually 30 thousand its not all civillians because militant groups dont count as soldiers such as hamas so every hamas „soldier“ is still counted as a civilian death
Great coverage as always. I don't f with custers.
Even the moderate ones are insane.
The poise and understanding these interviewees provide on the complexities of this conflict is such a relief. They could justifiably be screaming their heads off in frustration. It's great to hear their perspectives
7:31 Its crazy how she can say this but the cognitive dissonance in her mind won't let her do the same thing for 100,000 individuals across the border
People lets try to bring peace and create a society where one person's life have the same sacredness as that of millions of life
Problem is certain religions of peace are about eradication of the religions that are different to them.
Eradicate religion, and the world has 90% less things to be at war over.
might wanna fix the typo in the title, it should be spelled Israel. Great reporting as always. Should also be noted that these protests in Tel Aviv happen every week right across the street from the idf headquarters.
I'm continuously impressed by the body of journalism you're achieving at Channel 5. It's remarkable. It really is. High fives all around.
It was never about the hostages.
The guy at 11:24 "this is a very complex issue".
But its really not complex. Its like Ireland with the England. Its like South Africa. Its like the the tribes in north and south America. Its like all the many countries brutally colonized throughout the world.
The only difference is its happenjng today and has been happening for 75 years. And its fully backed by the West who are supposed to represent international law and democratic values. Its not just one bad leader in Israel. Its imbedded in the very foundational DNA of what makes Israel. Zionism is founded as a colonialist project and has used genocide and ethnic cleansing and terrorism to assert dominance over the Arabs.
Thanks for the armchair analysis
@@VigilantSight He/she is correct tough
@@VigilantSight this has been my Ted talk
@@yassinedjebbari4819 it's funny to me that when someone tells the history of Israel they are called antisemitic... I feel many terms need to be defined for them.
Palestinians are people whose ancestry and lineage is within the boundaries of the land known as Palestine. All three abrahamic religions are represented within this definition.
A Muslim is a person who believes in Islam which is an abrahamic religion most common in the middle east.
Zionism is a colonial ideology and political movement
Judaism is an abrahamic religion that is traced back to the region as well.
Terrorism is the use of violence against mostly civilian populations to enact political change.
Genocide is the mass murder of civilians through systematic means.
There are many more terms I feel people should learn about before getting to use a bullhorn on this subject.
I will say it's infuriating when you write up facts based on actual evidence and historical context and you're called an antisemite by a person who doesn't even know any or straight up ignores the evidence and historical context.
When they say this is a confusing conflict that has been waged for two thousand years and talk about Zionism like it's Judaism and Palestinians like it's Islam and Israel as "the only democracy in the middle east".
There are bad faith arguers on both sides but A LOT of them are pro israel
The fact that you think this is “not complex” is utterly baffling. But Gen z is completely broken, with rigid binary black/white oppressor/oppressed dogma completely devoid of nuance, history, humanity, and human experience. It’s born out of being raised by the dystopian hellscape of the internet, tiktok and every warped social media psyop paying dividends to the Qatari propaganda machine that makes aipac look like Craigslist. The generation is irreparably broken, morally confused, intellectually bankrupt and seething with contempt and dying for violence. It’s a modern version of sado-masochism from leftist’s self flagellating and virtue signaling while simultaneously lobbing verbal garbage and slogans their Columbia professor with the ponytail told them. They’re not taught to think, they’re taught WHAT to think.
Channel 5 is a breath of fresh air compared to the sea of bs we normally have to wade through.
I have been watching 5 news for a little while (since your team crossed the border) and I’m really impressed by the expansions you guys have made to your team!
Interviewing in Tel Aviv is something every mainstream company still is too nervous to cover you guys are awesome
The 17 year old saying hes going into the military willingly as hes protesting the government and ben is wild like what do you think they are gonna make you do? The ahit you dont want to dog wow
Military service is mandatory in Israel (for both genders), if he wanted to avoid it he would have to either go to jail or fake a mental illness that prevents him from serving. There are many roles in the military that don't involve holding a gun, many positions are doing basic office work or driving people around.
The kid simply said he would do what his country requires of him, as a citizen, like all other citizens do. No different from paying his taxes.
@@AlfaTheBossor be a bat sharut
This is incredible. The news makes it seem as if Israel is all in agreeance with this massacre but seeing real voices and real people, breath of fresh air.
Thank you for what you do.
Ofcourse, though minute there will always be a minority of people who see through their government and natanyahu
@@spiderman23231 around 70% of Israelis want Netanyahu to step down. Israel is more divided than the US even.
@@Mwasser Really? Ive seen a fair amount of israelis support netanyahu & whatever decision he makes
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Thank you for the sentiment and I’m sure it came from a good place. But an occupier is not the neighbor of one they are occupying. Hopefully Palestinians will have the same rights as israelis one day and then coexist
@@saraha.7473 I take that by that you mean you want the whole land to be one state called Palestine?
@@Nomad1992 it should be one state yes. Idc what it’s called. They can call it Jerusalem. The occupation and apartheid of Palestinian people will never end as long as they are seen as a secondary or an “other”.
yh say goodbye to mainstream media. These TH-cam journalists are killing it with unbiased journalism going directly to the source for the information!
"I think he is an inmoral, valueless person who should not be the leader of any country" Said by an Israeli in Hebrew in Israel.
Excellent video. Thank you for showing the complexity of the situation in Israel and giving voices to some reasonable and awesome Israelis!
"reasonable and awesome Israelis!"
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I love how the bare minimum for israelis to be called reasonable is "didnt go to war to kill palestinians but is just sad their israeli brother went to do it instead and got kidnapped". Just shows how crazy majority of them are. Talking about girls who went to the front to shoot civilians being kidnapped and how she isnt just some photo but was a human being. The people she went to shoot at were human beings too not just pictures.
Jews gonna JEWWWWWW
The guardian ain't got nothing on a serious reporter like Channel 5!
So sad it took more then a year for our voices to be heard, even longer then that, we have been protesting and taking action against this government and all the racism for years. But no one ever hears us.
Downloading before it gets taken down
Small thing, but someone should fix the typo in the title saying "Isreal" instead of "Israel"
Israhell the place where children, fathers and mothers in hospitals, school and home become terrorist and human shields.
Nah a typo is better for the algorithm
Absolutely excellent and necessary coverage
excellent contribution Andrew and C5 team. Fight for what's right
Now interview palestinians in the west bank!
channel 5 is actually worldwide
You would think that after all of the groundwork channel 5 has laid, people would not generalize and associate the views of people interviewed in this video with random other people, understanding that everybody's worldview and focus is influenced by their environment and their own reality that they live. We have the benefit of seeing everything from far away but these people are seeing missiles fly over their heads constantly and half of them are mandatorily conscripted into military service. I don't think it's that surprising that they're worried about changing their government and ending the war when this is their experience.
Womp womp. Their state is maintained through expansionist violence. I will comfortably disregard any israeli's opinion if it isnt: total abandonment of illegal settlements in the west bank, freeing of gaza, total pullout of Lebanon, and ceasefire negotiations on all fronts immediately.
If they dont, then they literally dont care or actively support more murder.
Great interviewer, zero self-coverage and literally just letting them speak their minds. Excellent content.
It’s interesting how the Israeli protesters never mention the Palestinians but protest for the people they lost… who enlisted in the military…
Edit. I’m referring to the first two people who went “missing” were enlisted. But the last KID who was on top of the bus station will be conscripted because he’s turning 18
Yeah, I was confused when she said kidnapped but the person was an enlisted soldier…
THIS PART! like they signed that contract. knowing they might face death. imprisonment. and all the other consequences that come with war.
i also hate they’re saying it’s a war, no! it is gen0cide.
@@jacobwhitten2664 enlistment is compulsory after high school. and before anyone says you can just claim crazy (religious or mental) and get out of it, that is not really an option if you hope to be accepted as a productive member of society later in your life
@@thestereocupid am I crazy or does enlistment imply voluntary joining of a military? Conscription is definitely different and I understand then why they use the word kidnap even though they are technically still POWs. I think the enlistment word was a translated word from Chanel 5
@@jacobwhitten2664 conscription is simply forced enlistment, which i think is where the confusion is coming in. as to "hostage" vs "POW" that is a trickier issue of international law, the status of Hamas as a non-state actor, and Hamas' long term intentions when taking them.