Wharfedale EVO 4.2 Bookshelf Speaker Review. How bad do you want it?

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  • Zero Fidelity Review: • Review! The Wharfedale...
    Reviewed Today: Wharfedale EVO 4.2
    www.wharfedaleusa.com/collect...
    Preamp & Power Amplifier & Integrated amps used:
    Kinki Studio EX-P7: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-p7
    Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblock: www.kinki-studio.com/ex-b7
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i
    www.crutchfield.com/p_813NODE...
    (all music is hi-res streamed from Tidal)
    DAC: Denafrips Ares II
    www.vinshineaudio.com/product...
    RCA Cables: Analysis Plus Oval One
    analysis.plus/product/oval-on...
    Speaker & Power Cables: Maze Audio REF4
    www.mazeaudio.com/speaker-cabl...
    Subwoofers Used:
    Rythmik FVX12 www.rythmikaudio.com/FVX12.html
    Kef KC62 www.shop.us.kef.com/subwoofer...
    SVS 3000 Micro www.svsound.com/products/3000...
    REL T9x Pair rel.net/shop/powered-subwoofe...
    Rythmik F12SE www.rythmikaudio.com/F12SE.html
    Your results may vary based on your ears, room, and associated equipment:
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  • @CC-bg8gf
    @CC-bg8gf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for this Nemo. I always get something useful out of your bookshelf speaker reviews. I think it's because you go for the essential rather than trying to be the perfect reviewer who would leave no stone unturned. Keep the bookies reviews coming!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank’s CC. I have the luxury of not being financially tied to YT, this is all for fun so I just keep it real :)

  • @mattolsziewski7164
    @mattolsziewski7164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great review. Would really love to one day hear some input about the Elysian line as well. It’s cool that this line has a full range of speakers (center, tower, I believe two different bookshelf). For some reason just from looking at them they appear as though they could have gone the Elysian stereo only route with these guys as well.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thomas & Stereo reviewed the Elysian, i don’t think I’d review those myself. Too big, too heavy 😅

  • @Salty4Reel
    @Salty4Reel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on the review as usual 👍

  • @CaptainLouis
    @CaptainLouis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very, very humble review. Loved it. We need more of that type of content. Subscribed.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aye! Thanks Captain I appreciate that.

  • @eltonc1505
    @eltonc1505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An eye opener wrt room sensitivity ! Great video as always... Short n sweet !

  • @sporty22011
    @sporty22011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review man- I really appreciate how you have the integrity/humility to tell us to watch the Zero Fidelity review for the technical details and you just do your own style. You’re genuine-That’s specifically why I watch your videos. I’m trying to find the gear that’s the best fit for me and that’s not necessarily the highest tech, fanciest gear out there. I thought these speakers looked interesting but I’m not very patient, I often move around and dance when I’m listening to music and I usually have several other people sitting in different spots in my living room so even though these might be great speakers they aren’t great for me! 10:17 seconds well spent! Thank you!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Sporty, thank you!! I have the new buchardt s400 mk2 arriving soon, I have not heard them yet but the original S400 is one of my favorite speakers that doesn't require you to sit absolutely still :) If that's too pricey though the Focal Chora 806 are also one of my favorites when used with the matching stands.

    • @sporty22011
      @sporty22011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda I’ve heard good things about the buchardt S400’s but I think I’ll wait to see what you have to say about them vs the new mk2’s before I pull the trigger. Thanks man!

  • @mmdusa
    @mmdusa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nemo, keeping it real for us. I'm glad you got them dialed in. They are pretty. Unfortunately, I have no space for any more speakers. Else I'd give them a shot.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They’re good but what you already have is probably great too :)

  • @alangeorgebarstow
    @alangeorgebarstow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I've had my Evo 4·2s for nine months now and I love them more each day. When I play my eclectic music collection on my Audiolab 6000CDW via my 6000A, I am enchanted.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They certainly can be enchanting! In fact that's a great way to describe them when setup well :)

    • @henson2k
      @henson2k ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you still love them?

    • @alangeorgebarstow
      @alangeorgebarstow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@henson2k Indeed I do, they remain a delight. They are among the best audio purchases I have made in the past 47 years.

    • @nothingleft777
      @nothingleft777 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do they „need“ a subwoofer?

    • @alangeorgebarstow
      @alangeorgebarstow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nothingleft777 That depends on your listening preferences. I neither have nor need one; the bass response is (for me) clear, deep and omnipresent.

  • @HamiltonAdolphus
    @HamiltonAdolphus 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I bought these a year ago and paired them with a Marantz 7000n and a rebuilt vintage trio turntable with an Ortofon red 2m cartridge. It took 2months for the speakers to break in. The amp took a bit longer. After the did I moved the Evos around constantly to find the best position. I found the sweet spot then added some room treatment to reduce an echo and reverberation I had. Now after a year, I will casually throw on a record and get sucked into the chair. I just added a sub and got it dialed in. With a full range of sound my soundstage is wide, tall, and on certain recordings, steps out from the speakers creating a fully immersive experience. When I get these things turned up and close my eyes, I am placed on a cloud of coalescing waves while suspended in a warm gooey soundscape dream. Do you ever get goosebumps because the music is so good. So surreal. So visceral. If you haven’t, keep the dream alive.

  • @heriacosta5452
    @heriacosta5452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you Nemo, I don't want a temperamental speaker, I am looking for a set and forget speaker. You were clear and honest about that point, one must work to get it to sound good. Botom line: No thank you.

  • @tg6373
    @tg6373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on observations -- I owned these but returned as soon as I heard the Dynaudio Evoke 10s.

  • @mattkalis1567
    @mattkalis1567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good review. These are speakers that I love on paper but will not but because I need to move around

  • @Psyphonyx_Life
    @Psyphonyx_Life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I came over to your channel taking a look for the Bowers / Wilkins 600 anniversary. I have listened to a lot of other people give their subjectivity.. and I trust that you'll provide some brutally honest feedback versus other products you have heard. I don't see them ?..
    Thanks for presenting your vibe on audio products. The Community benefits from people like you speaking candidly and passionately about your perspective. Thank you!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Kanga, thank you. It means a lot to me that you want my opinion on that specific speaker. I like B&W a lot but I don't think they like me lol, I have emailed them a few times for review samples in the past but never get any reply. And since I know that speaker is not an ideal pair for my amps I don't want to buy them with my own money just for the review. I think BW is usually best with warmer sounding gear which I do not have.

    • @Psyphonyx_Life
      @Psyphonyx_Life 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda .. Understood. Marketing methods for some brands just isn't the same across the board. Gotta go with the flow. Thanks for the input and feedback.

    • @danielhenderson8316
      @danielhenderson8316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda - If bright highs are not your thing, you probably won’t like B&W without a lot of EQing. I’m probably taking my 705 s2 back to Best Buy because it makes my ears ring after a couple of hours. That aluminum tube on the top is very vivid and detailed, but it’s always dialed up past 11 and it doesn’t relax.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danielhenderson8316 yeah i agree, I like BW but only connected to really expensive gear like Mcintosh.

  • @knifeswitch5973
    @knifeswitch5973 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nailed it. Perfect triangle. I almost sent these back. It’s been about 6 months now and the king’s chair is almost perfect considering my room kind of sucks. A lot of fiddling about but man once you’re in, YOU’RE IN. I supplemented with a couple 80 watt front firing 8” subs but if I could give these speakers some more real estate, I wouldn’t need them. If I want general room sound, I fire up the vintage.

  • @freakin13guy
    @freakin13guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Totally nailed this review! Especially in regards to the impact placement has with these! On a side note, I think it’s funny how Wharfedale plays these off as having 6.5” drivers. In reality they’re 5.25”. Not a deal breaker for some but let’s call what it is Wharfedale. :)

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude that’s what I thought!!! They looked small to me but I didn’t measure them.

    • @-MarkWinston-
      @-MarkWinston- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      6.5 inches from the edges of the basket, not from the center of the surround rubber to the other. Wharfedale, and like many others, measure it this way. I felt cheated when I first recieved my Diamond 12.2... lol!

    • @freakin13guy
      @freakin13guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@-MarkWinston- Lol.. Correct.. Being that I currently own speakers with true 6.5” woofers, I just remember that bugging me when I was auditioning the Evo 4.2 as I new my eyes were not deceiving me.

    • @buffal0bilious
      @buffal0bilious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the same thought. They say the dome midrange is 2". If that dome is 2", there's no way that woofer is 6.5". Not a chance. If the dome is indeed 2", then the cone of the woofer looks to maybe even be as small as 4.5". That said, I've heard the 4.4's, and they sound (and look) splendid, and that's what matters most.

  • @johnfredmurray
    @johnfredmurray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have these set up in my basement with a vintage Sansui. Thought they'd play second fiddle to the Linton Heritage I have in my living room. These actually sound more exciting than the Lintons IMO

  • @roccobruno8027
    @roccobruno8027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It's great to see a 3-way design in this price category. Also real wood veneer ... woot! How good is the cabinet at avoiding resonances?

    • @ngoweyseong3738
      @ngoweyseong3738 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe you should ask the designer to get the correct answer,haha😃 good day.

  • @austinharkey5131
    @austinharkey5131 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love Wharfedale. These things are like mini towers. Don't love them for home theater but I don't think that is what they were made for. Had them in a music setup and it was incredible.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah the top is too rolled off for theater IMO.

  • @madcrabber1113
    @madcrabber1113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel 👏

  • @yamafanboy
    @yamafanboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First of all congrats on 6K subs and also great review as usual. I'll check out the Zero Fidelity review and leave a comment that he owes you for the sponsorship deal hopefully in bitcoin lol.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ahaha, nah, he’s cool… he don’t owe me shit…

  • @yeahright3733
    @yeahright3733 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like your parody impression of yourself. You dont sound like that but you sound hilarious when you do that with your voice. You should try and do some comedy bits to make us laugh.

  • @dicmccoy
    @dicmccoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Speaking of industry standards, let's tell the subwoofer manufacturers that variable phase control should be an industry standard for subwoofers. Great review Nemo. Keep up the great work. 🤘

    • @felixxia3604
      @felixxia3604 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is not industry standard??? I didnt know that. Doesnt make sense.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly I’d love to see some kind of auto phase.

    • @dicmccoy
      @dicmccoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@felixxia3604 No it's not industry standard unfortunately. Majority of companies only put on a 0-180° "phase switch", which is only switching the polarity and not changing the phase. Some companies that do have variable phase control do 0-180° and others do 0-280° and will have a 0-180° polarity switch.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard, 180 is the same as 0 with negative polarity right? I hate phase honestly, it takes up so much time!!

    • @dicmccoy
      @dicmccoy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda Yes, 0 & 180 is just a polarity switch, it does nothing with phase. Phase is really easy if you have the tools. I made a video on it and how to get your sub level matched at your crossover frequency of choice. The video may make you motion sick because I was holding my phone. I show how to dial in 1 sub and then 2 subs and show how to check for phase cancellation in the listening position. A Umik-1 and the SPL meter in REW will be required. But do it that way, and your subs will be dialed in perfectly each time.

  • @kenhiett5266
    @kenhiett5266 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super fussy is all I needed to know, thank you.

  • @xtctaz
    @xtctaz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome review!! These are some beefy big boys! What speaker stands are you using?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a few but the ones shown here are the Revel Concerta2 specific stands.

  • @cremersalex
    @cremersalex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'Fuzzy' is the theme of this video, and it's funny, because I bought the Wharfedale Lintons and it's the exact same story. If you place your coffee cup an inch to the left, or to the right, the sound will change!

  • @redrock425
    @redrock425 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These speakers really appreciate a good amplifier. Using my Denon AVR they sound pretty good, with my friends ICEpower amp they sound fantastic. I need a good stereo amp now...

  • @juanmillaruelo7647
    @juanmillaruelo7647 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Fussy", guys, "fussy", not "fuzzy". As in "very" particular about placement and "nagging you" into "sitting properly" like an English Victorian nanny. The EMT are very beamy, almost laser like. Doesn't sound good? You are not "sitting right". "Sit up! Look forward!" It looks good, it keeps up appearances. Also very Victorian. But it's damn strict in its social demands
    Wharfedale should offer a good 'non emt' tweeter to ensure FR consistency across a broader listening window.
    The EMT should be an option, or be left to desktop monitors (Evo 4.1) or "special use" with a single optimal listening position.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is one of my favorite comments this year. I read that (i think) the way you wrote it, like a strict school teacher BACK STRAIGHT!

  • @GodfreyMann
    @GodfreyMann 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the way you explained the subwoofer pairing. Is the Rel T7i more SQ or halfway? What amps do you think will pair well with he EVO’s or which ones to avoid?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Anthony, all current model REL subs are SQ subwoofers :).

    • @MrEvhel83
      @MrEvhel83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda i would go so far as to say REL is the ONLY subs for music/hifi if you want the best music performance.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrEvhel83 and Rythmik :). Also surprisingly wildcard is an SB-3000 in a big room, that sub sounds totally different in a big room when it has to play near full tilt vs in a small room where it's barely moving, and I mean big like 20x25ft.

  • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
    @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hello, I have the EVO 4.4 and I agree with your appreciation of the narrow sweet spot, to find it is: equilateral triangle, stand inside calibrating with pink noise ... and enjoy because you won't be able to get anything better at this price!

    • @larrys1911
      @larrys1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My son has the Evo 4.4's and runs it with a Cary Integrated SI-300.2d. He just bought a Chord Qutest DAC and the sweet spot became wider. The DAC has huge soundstage once broken in. Great speakers that sound better with the grill off.

    • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@larrys1911 wow, thanks, thanks I was looking for a DAC change and just one of my presets was CORD QUTEST, because I wanted to increase the sound space. How is QUTEST for Soundstage doing in depth?

    • @larrys1911
      @larrys1911 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      HI Luis, the Chord Qutest does have a wide, tall and deep sound stage. It is punchy with good dynamics, a rich toned midrange and a smooth top end. It needs 75 hours of break in otherwise the center sound stage sounds narrow and the midrange is peaky. Also it is sensitive to usb cable changes. My Luxman DAC is the same. USB cables that sounded good with the Cary's internal DAC did not sound so good with the Chord and visa versa. We also used a Linear Power Supply and that improved the sound of both the Regen and DAC. Othe dacs to consider are the PS Audio direct Stream DSD used, just a fabulous wide sound stage and detail. Also the Yggdrasil. It is a great sounding DAC.
      Larry

    • @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038
      @luisrodrigonunezolguin7038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@larrys1911 Thanks for your good advice and good options, the only thing that does not motivate me is that Qutest is not balanced and my whole system is, so one from PSAudio or Pontus from Denfrips seems a better option. Greetings!

  • @Trollberg
    @Trollberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like these as they sound perfect for my listing taste which is mostly black metal and techno. What do you suggest in the 500 dollar range. My budget choice was KEF 350.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Ragi, I would try to find a second hand pair of $650-$800 speakers. For example the dynaudio emit 10 I just reviewed is $800 but if someone wanted to buy them from me I would sell them for $500 (i'm not trying to pitch you here, just an example). Reason I suggest this is because there are not many speakers priced at $500 msrp, most are $600-$800 or $200-$350 so getting those more expensive ones on sale or lightly used would be best. Elac DBR62 second hand is usually around $450 which is great too. I have not heard the Q350, only the Q150. If they sound the same then I think the Q350 will be great for black metal and EDM.

  • @myhomeaudio8751
    @myhomeaudio8751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great talk as always bro

  • @slecht
    @slecht 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review. Got them on my way, only €420 for 2. They where returned so I got a good deal, for that money I couldn't resist. Gonna use a smsl da9 for it, I heard it's great for these speakers (&also very cheap (€200).

  • @JustDataReviews
    @JustDataReviews ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m currently trialing these with the evo 4.c for home theater… I thought that the 4.c being a 3 way design would make for a good experience. So far my inclination is to go ahead and send them back.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  ปีที่แล้ว

      make sure to experiment alot with placement, if you can get it right they really are amazing but if you can't theres no point keep them, they're just too fussy for most rooms.

  • @kunzroo
    @kunzroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Writing in from India. Love your work. Hey...quick question.... what do you think of the denon pma 600ne paired with the monitor audio bronze 100... contemplating buying...your opinion matters so do give🙏...thanks...

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the MA Bronze 6G around $400-$450, more than that and I don't like it as much. Regarding the PMA600NE, I personally don't like that amp at all. It is very lacking in dynamics. The lack of dynamics paired with a slightly rolled off top end make for a presentation that I don't like very much. Some people like that though, it's just not for me. The two components might work together well but I wouldn't do it.

    • @kunzroo
      @kunzroo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks

  • @chrisselner5005
    @chrisselner5005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It seems like they cannibalized the jade series design and technology wise. I had a cheapie pair of the 220s and for the price the design and build was nice. I'd like to hear these speakers, I'm curious about their finikyness. I probably spelled that wrong.

    • @glennelliott4989
      @glennelliott4989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My understanding is that the tech was handed down from the Elysian series

  • @thedumbstuff4170
    @thedumbstuff4170 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They're currently on sale in Denmark for what equates to 513 USD. Seems like a pretty good deal then.

  • @ferdi9554
    @ferdi9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff as usual. What were your impressions compared to the Focal Chora 806?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chora is brighter & more detailed. Evo has a huge sense of space and stronger bass and overall much warmer presentation. I prefer Chora as the Evo is just way too rolled off for me even though i usually don’t mind that. Evo is just too hard to get “right” for my taste.

    • @ferdi9554
      @ferdi9554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda Thanks a lot! I was debating on buying the Chora 806 or the EVO 4.2. I had the chance to test the Chora and I had goosebumps, the sound was detailed. Unfortunately I couldn't find a retailer to test the Evo. So I checked some reviews on TH-cam, and your speach was very convincing, especially for low volume. Looking forward to get the Chora 806 with stands. hopefully those will pair beautifully with my Cambridge AXR 100.

    • @Audioloon
      @Audioloon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda Nice job on the review. Agreed, if I had to work that hard to get the speaker dialed in then concern myself with proper sitting posture and breathing and restrict body movement then I would not be able to "relax and enjoy" the music so it's an easy pass for me. I currently own a pair of WD D320's and in the past owned Diamond 9.1's.....both of them lots of ROI and fun without the fuss.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ferdi9554 I have not heard the AXR but Chora seems to pair well with most amps, maybe stay away from cheap class D though, it would make it too dry or analytical.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Audioloon The ROI is there as long as you don't move an inch :D

  • @hclandscapes
    @hclandscapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Apparently the new versions of these come with a fake plastic fase plug on the bass drivers, the earlier models had metal plugs that were attached to the back of the driver, i wonder if that would affect the sound?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats annoying, i hate when companies due silly changes like that. It makes it so complicated for buyers.

    • @hclandscapes
      @hclandscapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda i guess it was to save money as like you say your already getting quite a lot for your money and possibly it wasn't cost affective for them?

    • @DomRivers67
      @DomRivers67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine have a metal cone that moves with the driver, some have a metal cone that seems fixed...not sure what, if any difference that might make

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DomRivers67 the ones I have here seem to have more of a pronounced metal-looking dust cap that is fixed to the cone.

  • @KaranKalwani1
    @KaranKalwani1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello sir, I'm looking to setup a 2 channel system for my PC. I'm an audiophile and want something that will be a worthy upgrade from my current setup (out of box Edifer 5.1 HT). I would like to pair speakers with a Rel Sub. These speakers/sub combo would be for my desktop (near field listening). What speakers would you recommend Kef LS or R3 Meta, B&W S3, Wharfedale 4.2? Your feedback would be much appreciated!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, unfortunately I do not have any experience with desktop audio.

  • @berndwolfram451
    @berndwolfram451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have fishhead audio bs 1.6 ...the same specs but a little bit more beauty ...great sound from germany

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nice, those are very good looking :)

  • @robk5745
    @robk5745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Somehow I missed this one, I have new wharfedales and the build, driver quality and sound for the money is actually top tier. Whoever is running the company these days knows what they are doing! Great review as always brother

  • @veertjee
    @veertjee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi all,
    Nice evaluation of the speaker. I have now 1 week after seeing some reviews here.
    I think for the money a no-brainer. I paid €500 New sealed box. I have hooked them up to an Pioneer SC LX 58. I do not experience the fuzzieness, althoug sweetspot is not very wide. I did not put them on stands, but just on my tv cabinet.
    They sound great and even at higher listening volumes. They are not forgiving, cause if the recording quality is bad you will hear this. Anyway i like them a lot.
    Thanks for sharing your opinion.
    Regards Erwin

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey Eriwn, glad they're working well for you, I'm sure they look beautiful in the room :)

    • @veertjee
      @veertjee 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Nemo,
      Thanks and yes the look very nice. I have indeed as you said in your review paired them with a SVS SB2000PRO 😉. Very good combo. I am also considering to get the Evo center (Evo 4c is very big and i hope the Evo4cs is good enough) and Evo4.1 as surround speakers.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@veertjee as long as you have the space it should be awesome :). The Evo line is like a wild stallion, if you can tame the horse she will be loyal and treat you well, but if you can't it's not good lol.

  • @robertlogue3794
    @robertlogue3794 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. I didn't know they were so fussy. They're off my list now.

  • @StrangeBrewReviews
    @StrangeBrewReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever run them in a stack? You have 4 of them there, I've thought about doing this. Give more vertical sound stage which seems the only downside of this speaker

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  ปีที่แล้ว

      Huh? I only have 2 :$

    • @StrangeBrewReviews
      @StrangeBrewReviews ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda must be a cut in the photo looks like 4, but do they stack one on top the other nice and squarely? how do you think a stack would sound? increase the vertical sound stage?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StrangeBrewReviews that's a TV behind me displaying an image of the speaker. I don't know how a stack would sound, I've never tried it. I would instead use the money to just buy more expensive speakers.

  • @roofpizza1250
    @roofpizza1250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool. Are those the 'proper' height stands?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The stands are for the video, i have many stands here to choose from and experiment with :).

    • @roofpizza1250
      @roofpizza1250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda I've found that I prefer higher tweeter positioning rather than lower but they are different L/C/R's than these.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As long as you find what works for you in your room that’s all that matters 🥳 you are winning! I don’t mind a bit too high but too low sounds odd to me.

  • @jonsays3762
    @jonsays3762 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The 4.3 is great for music. I replaced it with a FAR cheaper 6” infinity tower for theater.

  • @andreperron8466
    @andreperron8466 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think that those speaker will fit good whit my Rotel 11 tribute?

  • @henson2k
    @henson2k ปีที่แล้ว

    How it compares with EVO 4.3 in terms of sound ?

  • @RockCity1111
    @RockCity1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I almost bought these but bought the Polk Reserve R 200s!!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nice! happy with your choice?

    • @RockCity1111
      @RockCity1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda definitely. The bass is so smooth.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RockCity1111 Nice dude, I really want to check those out!

    • @RockCity1111
      @RockCity1111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda Polk canceled my original order for the r 200s for possible fraud because of a shipping address being different than my mailing address. So I was surprised they knocked 20% off which made the 200s cheaper than the r 100s. Lol.

  • @seoulrydr
    @seoulrydr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whoa. For a split (micro) second, I thought you were gonna tuck tail and run - like a soul sucking panty thief fleeing the local nursing home! But you pulled it out and off and came through with a valid (and reasonable) review. Kudos for giving Sean props! Great review!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait, whats wrong with being a panty thief?

    • @seoulrydr
      @seoulrydr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NemoPropaganda If they're not being thrown at you - you're doing it wrong. Just sayin.
      Using one's teeth (WITH PERMISSION) is also acceptable.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I will not confirm nor deny the allegations.

    • @seoulrydr
      @seoulrydr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda Good call. Neither will I! Besides, these are not allegations - they're hypotheticals! Tasty hypotheticals, but hypotheticals nonetheless!

    • @hclandscapes
      @hclandscapes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda 🤣

  • @wim1983
    @wim1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's a great budget speaker, though in terms of sound I would say Denton 80 is greater in sound tonal balance and classic craftmanship.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Denton looks cool too, my home just doesn't look right with vintage stuff though :(

    • @wim1983
      @wim1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda aha I see, one tip is just to put them near "wood" haha

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wim1983 hahaha, indeed, I would if I had any :) My entire house looks like Andrew Robinsons living room, it's like Pintrest modern if that makes sense. I know some people like the contrast look of vintage & modern but I don't like it personally.

    • @wim1983
      @wim1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda Really? I remember from Andrew's channel there are videos that show a tv cabinet with a grill same as my Denton 80 haha. Actually I think wood can blend in well into anything, it's amazing element to complement both audio and visual.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wim1983 yeah he mixes modern & antique looks, I just don't, full modern all the way, that's one reason I love the Buchardt S400 so much.

  • @OneyPlaysClips
    @OneyPlaysClips ปีที่แล้ว

    probably a good pair of monitors

  • @mtjm
    @mtjm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dunno if its a glitch or some kind of shadowban, but this vid is not showing in my subscription feed 🤔

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh no 🙈 maybe i said the f word too much in the comments lol.

  • @bobb.9917
    @bobb.9917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nemo? …Did you flash us irreverent Cat A§§? 😂😂😂

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would never do such a thing...

  • @TheRoyrules88
    @TheRoyrules88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wharfedale Evo 4.2 or Emotiva t2+ ???Nemo's pick?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have not heard those emotivas but I would not pick the 4.2 because its too fussy.

    • @TheRoyrules88
      @TheRoyrules88 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @JSVKK
    @JSVKK ปีที่แล้ว

    How good is this against KLH Model 3 ?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know, I have not heard that one.

  • @reserva120
    @reserva120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does the sound change if your having Tea??? , thanks for not doing a review where you~ as a grown man had to take a stand, you shown the lack of will an non compiled back bone of Mellinenals in fine form..

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Allan I'm guessing you're 55+ so I will give you the respect your age deserves but I must say I'm shocked that at your age you're so entitled and have such an odd interpretation of manhood. I think a big part of being a man is knowing when someone has done something so much better than you it's best to step aside and let the light shine on them for the hard work they've done. As far as backbone, let's just say you'd have a different opinion on mine had you said this to me in a real world environment. This youtube channel is for fun, audio is a hobby, don't make the mistake of assuming I owe you a damn thing, most real men know they're owed nothing. Now go sit in the corner and think about why you still have such a chip on your shoulder.

  • @mohabandijany9579
    @mohabandijany9579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do they compare to the kef ls50 meta ?
    Thank you for your effort !

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Evo have a lot more bass and a much larger sense of scale overall so will sound better in larger rooms. I can see many users maybe not needing a subwoofer. The LS50 meta has a better presentation, is easier to setup, and has more consistent off axis performance but will not perform as well in larger rooms. Both speakers have outstanding build quality and very good sound when setup properly.

  • @AromaFrank
    @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will you pls review the Evo 4.1 ?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure, possibly :)

    • @Valisk
      @Valisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the 4.1 - be prepared to go through the same level of tweaking as the 4.2. I could hear the potential and played around almost daily. I was getting close to the return date and suddenly hit a sweet spot, so decided to keep them. Seriously, a few degrees of toe-in, or a centimeter of separation can make a noticable difference. I've never been a cable freak either, but I borrowed some to try out - I've never heard a speaker so sensitive to that particular variable. I'll probably never stop tweaking these throughout my ownership period, but I do enjoy the process! :)
      I'm eventually going to move these to a slightly bigger room, so I'll have to do it all again!

    • @AromaFrank
      @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Valisk Thanks for sharing. So how did it end up serving you it’s best? Any tips? And what cable did you find makes a difference?

    • @Valisk
      @Valisk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@AromaFrank Any time :) I moved the speakers apart until the centre of the soundstage started to lose cohesion, then slowly brought them closer together until it started to tighten up. This distance was quite a bit further apart than my old speakers. They're toed in to fire just outside of my shoulders. Then I started fine tuning the position from there. I just watched the Zero Fidelity review as recommended by Nemo and I'd say that his setup tips hold true for the 4.1. I remember when I first set them up, I just put them in the same place as my old speakers and was disappointed.
      My amp is a Cyrus 7 with PSX-R, which is a little lean sounding but has plenty of power and control. The 4.1s added a bit of warmth to the sound that I really like. I'm going to audition an Audiolab 6000A and a Cyrus One soon - really looking forward to that.
      My old speaker cable was some Gale XM315 bought back in 1994. A friend lent me some cables to try - Two types of QED (can't remember which types unfortunately) and some Tellurium Blue II. I picked up some Blue II second hand off ebay. I'm struggling to describe how the sound changed, maybe I'll say there was a bit 'more' of everything. I was pretty surprised, I always thought cables were a bit of a myth - my old Missions & KEFs didn't really care what I hooked up with. Well, maybe a little, but not to the level that would make me want to change.

    • @AromaFrank
      @AromaFrank 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Valisk Wow thanks so much. I have them connected to my Audiolab 6000a. It matches and brings out of Evo’s more than what I had from the Rotel Tribute. I have the speakers placed inside a bookshelf, my room is very small 8x8, I have no place to move them out. I’m wondering ur experience when placed close to wall. Btw previously I had the Kef 150 and Elac UB52, both of them got fatiguing, so in this perspective I’m very pleased with the 4.1 but I still feel it’s not the best, so I will try to depart them even more like u mentioned.. maybe by the corners. Thanks again!

  • @44029340
    @44029340 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think I’ll get the Elysians and be done with it.

  • @willisbush956
    @willisbush956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can more safely place a beer on top of a speaker wrapped in vinyl.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah, the vinyl will bubble from the moisture lol

    • @willisbush956
      @willisbush956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NemoPropaganda You're quite right NP. My vinyl covered outdoor furniture bubbled up and was ruined after the first rain!

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willisbush956 oh man that's a bummer, I learned that from leaving drinks on my office desk, have a nice bubble now :(.

  • @marks7646
    @marks7646 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why in our country this only sell for $670 a pair.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know but that's a great price, that's cheaper than used prices here.

  • @krishmandal9769
    @krishmandal9769 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. You just talked me out of this speaker. That's something no other reviewer has done for me. I say that with all love. How many times have we said, "Maybe it'll work, if ..."
    When you said that you need to get them dialed in and then NEVER MOVE THEM. That did it for me. Not the speakers for me. I need to have something that I can pull away, or tuck away, because I don't have much space.

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Krish, no problem my man. I am happy to help in either direction. Sometimes knowing what you don't want can be very helpful!! If you like speakers that are easy to place in a room try and demo the Focal Chora 806.

  • @johnwhite2576
    @johnwhite2576 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sound like your head is in a vise with these-useless for movies of course, but there are competitive speakers that arent this finicky. Its one thing to “dial in” the apeaker ie pl;a cement, but to never move yourself ? If you are ok with that , buy some quad ESLs. Heaven in a straight jacket…

  • @ChrisDFranco
    @ChrisDFranco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not bad
    But $20 is $20

  • @divendranath1023
    @divendranath1023 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These speakers are nightmare in 6mths time don't buy.No parts available after 7mths.

  • @justingriffin2546
    @justingriffin2546 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    its not wood veneer....i own them...its very good but it aint wood

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      pretty sure it's wood bro, it's listed as real wood vaneer in most of the literature I've seen. What makes you think it's not wood?

  • @rickgarcia8481
    @rickgarcia8481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No way I would buy a pair of speakers that are that focused where you can't move without the sound degrading. Terrible

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it certainly is a tough sell.

    • @rickgarcia8481
      @rickgarcia8481 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @NemoPropaganda great review btw. Very, very informative for the average guy. Thanks

  • @holdencaulfied7492
    @holdencaulfied7492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WTF is SPL?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Depends how its being used, which sentence are you referring to?

    • @holdencaulfied7492
      @holdencaulfied7492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NemoPropaganda Around 4:10 you say it won't be too much on the SPL side, not too much on the SQ side. What does that mean?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@holdencaulfied7492 ah, so technically SPL stands for sound pressure level but the way I used it in that particular phrase was to describe a style of bass. SPL bass is heavier handed and draws some of your attention while SQ bas is more resolving and more integrated overall as a natural experience. Hope that helps.

    • @holdencaulfied7492
      @holdencaulfied7492 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@NemoPropaganda Thanks, very informative. These are probably just what I'm looking for. I need some speakers that won't be boomy; my neighbor is complaining. I currently have a set with 10" woofers and are rear ported against the wall, reverberating the shared wall. Do you think these will be less boomy considering where the port is located?

    • @NemoPropaganda
      @NemoPropaganda  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@holdencaulfied7492 i used to live an apartment so I feel your struggle my bro, the simple truth is any loud volume or bass is going to disturb your neighbor, the type of bass can have some impact but not very much. Instead of buying different speakers can you just turn down the bass with tone controls and maybe try to keep the volume down once it gets dark? I've found that helps a lot with neighbors.