I have a early Bachmann V3 in BR early black , sadly it's a non- runner at present so resigned to the display shelf , quite like these tank engines , might have to get one of these new ones if I can find one for a reasonable price?
Hi Sam, not sure if you're gonna read this, or anyone else after your Bachman review. Im in the process of constructing a suitable area in my loft to run all the Hornby etc OO stuff that I've collected since moving to Northern Ireland. I plan to have the layout at waist level or above and use loft boards as a base. The question is: can i or should I use a sound deadening material such as cork or something on the base boards? Can you recommend something? Btw I dont ever plan to have scenery, houses etc just plain track. Cheers mate, I enjoy all your reviews but some of them encourage purchases! Lol
Looking at the title of this video, you've done similar titles in the past so viewers can brave themselves with what tge review will be like. I like the idea of future reviews having a brief few word summary in the video title as that is something I personally enjoy with my YT watching experience
Just try not to make them too clickbaity. Like "Old engine can we make it run again"? And the engine is only 40 years old. Still young by locomotive standards. And the answer is ALWAYS yes in my own experience. Even 100 year old engines who have had no replacement parts made in many decades can always be made to run. Just a question of determination and skill on the part of the restorer. Seriously. There is another channel that use those awful clickbait titles and I really do not think much of that.
I'm a big fan of the slightly older post split chassis bachmann engines, to me the detail is still passable and you don't have to worry about things breaking and falling off every time you pick them up like on some of hornby's engines, I'll concede the mechanisms aren't exactly cutting edge but in my experience they've alway been reliable runners. And finally, there's always bargains up for grabs on the second hand market. That being said I would never buy a brand new locomotive from bachmann in this day and age but with prices being what they are I'm not really buying much new from manufacturers at all anyways :p
Dear Sam, I did enjoy your review of the updated Bachmann V1/3 2-6-2 Tank loco. When the new model came out, I asked Bachmann if they were going to bring out a LNER Black version as well. They said no. So I asked if the old body would fit the new chassis. They said as the new chassis was a complete Retooling, it would not fit the old body. I had hoped they would bring out a new version of the LNER black one. My local model shop still had some of the new V3 models in stock. So I bought one and to see if it would fit the old body. I test fitted the old body on the new chassis and low and behold it fitted like a glove. All the screw holes matched up. I have been able to restore all my V1's with new chassis having bought two more of the new models to use the chassis to replace the broken axels. My Fleet of V1's 466,448 and 2911. I think the earlier body was much better than the new one.
Well, a nice candidate for a retooling... At a discount price, no more than GBP 50, it can be acceptable. Bachmann pushes the use of their outdated mold to the end, I hope they will not do another run of this antique. The chassis is very nice, and the drivetrain more than decent, they just have to add a flywheel to have something at the top. The reverse of a shelf queen : ugly, but pulls hard. As a small tank engine, Bachmann did a very decent MR 0-4-4 recently, they can take it as a pattern for a retooling of this one. They have the chassis, they just need to retool the body.
Hi Sam, I have been watching your reviews and I won't buy Bachmann products now...maybe that's a bit extreme but in general it seems they don't hold up to your scrutiny. I have recently bought 10 Hornby locomotives including 2 train packs based on your reviews so thanks for doing this, it makes such a difference to see the product in detail before buying. I live in Canada so I can't just go down to the local shop and check it out myself, they don;t sell OO here, so your reviews are invaluable to me. I'm very grateful for your channel, keep up the good work!
Bachmann never seem to get it right. Either the mech is awesome and the body looks like that of sumo fighter or vice versa! Bachmann are obviously drunk with power! Great video as always!
Got the old V3 which still runs OK. Presumably much of the mechanism for the new V3 will be from the new V2 mechanism. Looking forward to your review of a V2.
Sam, another good review. When I watched this review, I thought at first I was watching a repeat of your 52xx review. Virtually all the comments on detail, mechanism, price, performance are extremely similar! It seems Hornby and Bachmann are putting prices up significantly for lower detail models. Having said that, no I would not buy this engine with the visibly poor moulding on top of the boiler. Thanks for another excellent review.
I've just had a thought, you should run your single wheel coaches with your John bull or lafayette loco, i bet they would match quite well. Any update on motorising the lafayatte. Great job Sam 👍
Great review & appropriate title Sam. Comes down to personal choice as you stated & I way prefer a decent mechanism and weight in a loco over detail any day. Wouldn’t pay 130GBP though ($240AUD) but maybe 95GBP
Yes I have this model. Was a present so can't comment on price but it is a good runner. Detail is a bit crap, especially the cab but at least it's quite an enclosed cab so it's not too bad. Sticking a driver in the window would improve the model
A good runner like this is a useful replacement for an old Tri-ang or Hornby layout loco which has seen its best days! To avoid sticking problems, I would do the run-in before performing the slow speed test. If you don't do the run-in first, particularly if the loco has plastic cogs, you can give the loco a permanent limp! Thanks for uploading.
The V3 is quite a lot older than the N class! For reference The N Class appeared around 1998 (and along with a re-tooled 'Collet Goods 0-6-0) was notable as it was one of the first of the Bachmann 'Blue Ribbon' designs which didn't use a split chassis. Unsurprisingly the years (or more specifically the repeated use of the same tooling with only the tiniest of tweaks to accommodate a DCC socket) have not done the N class any favours BUT it still fills a important gap in the ranks of RTR models (as does the V3). As I said above - if you are actually building a scale model of a proper place (rather than just running what pleases you) then your selection of locos is going to be heavily influenced by what was operating on the real thing. The SECR / Southern N class mogul was a true 'go anywhere' design and could be seen from Kent to Cornwall on Freight and passenger work plus was a very long lived design. So although Bachmanns current RRP for it is way off the mark and it is in desperate need of an upgrade, the loco itself is still of value to modellers looking for realism in their layouts.
@@philkeller4170 Thanks Phil, my layout is Southern-themed and the N, noisy as it is, is a regular and reliable performer. As a youthful train spotter in the early-mid 1960s I would occasionally see one clanking through Clapham Junction or alongside my school's playing field (situated right where the Brighton and South Western lines diverged), although by that time only a few remained.
Hi Sam, A much revealing, nice and honest review. It is time that Bachmann should consult you for advice on their design team. You nailed it again and your score is spot on - not even Bachmann could argue about you findings. A nice model that has a 'potential' future IF Bachmann reviewed its policies. But I doubt this since these companies are just run by bookkeepers and lawyers who only look for a high profit to pay the shareholders. But as we all know: "Capitalism IS THE CRISIS" Thanks & Cheers, Filip
Thanks a lot Filip - haha wouldn't that be the day?! xD It sure does have potential - even if they don't retool it - a Hornby railroad-esque model would be great to see from Bachmann! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, I have just been sent your 2021 video on the V3, wish I'd seen it earlier. I've just bought the 2023 V1 released a few weeks ago and was shocked to discover no cab detail whatsoever, not even some basic molding, nuffing 😮😮.. with an RRP of £170, some cab interior would be standard, but not on this model! I've written to Bachmann complaining, its verging on misdescriptiom as I don't know of any other loco like this old or new
Good review Sam. I'd be interested to see a review of the newer Bachmann Ivatt 2-6-2 if you ever got your hands on one, as I feel it's a very similar story, ie; a rather old body with a brand new chassis. I have both the split chassis and new chassis Ivatt 2-6-2's and have to admit the new one is an absolute pleasure to run due to the superior running, despite the dated detail on the body.
This is an old 1990s loco . I think I got mine 92 or 93 . Mine is the old split chassis version but she still runs ok , admittedly she doesn’t see a lot of use . I actually think it’s not a bad model . It successfully captures the look of the loco and I think is still passable . How many people look in the cab? You are correct though Bachmann charge top rate for all their models . I think they have to pay Kader to make the models
@@tinplategeek1058 I know and Kader are looking for the same returns they get making US or European stuff . Why wouldn’t they . But while Dapol , Hornby use different factories probably to get good rates , Bachmann are stuck with Kader . Interesting to expand the range they now have EFE who use different factories .
What a Bummer. I am watching this Because I love the look of these Tank Engines ( as in, No Tender.) And was thinking of buying one of these Models. As that Parting line and very visible Flashing is a "Real Turn off..!" Obviously Bachmann don't own a set of Fine File's. But its a Real turn off due to trying to improve that would require repainting. And even with an Airbrush, Would stand out like 'Dogs Balls..!' Maybe Weathering may help hide the Repairs..!! But not something, one should be needing to do to on a Straight out the box model..! Cheers Sam another great review. Cheers All..!! Kim in Oz. 😎
It's funny, isn't it Sam? Here we have a Bachmann loco with a very good mechanism (5 pole motor it is believed, proper bearings, full driving wheel pickups and the loco being a pretty good crawler), yet has a very outdated and rubbish body! Lol. Quite the reverse of many a previous Bachmann loco. Will they ever get it right, in all aspects? I suspect that they might have charged a lot more for an updated body, than the current RRP of £129.95. Not for me, this one. The blank cab is unforgivable. Best, Pete.
I always like watching your Bachmann reviews, as they help to raise awareness of their questionable decisions. For instance, I can't understand why they didn't bother doing an entirely new LNER V3 tooling, and still charged over 100 pounds for a very old bodyshell. Seems like a real mixed bag to me.
haha thank you! That's true though - people should be aware of this sort of practice! New tooled V3 would definitely have made it worth the money! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
For a number of years Bachmann had (and publicly stated they were doing it) a 'chassis only' upgrade programme on the basis that they could design and bring to market a updated chassis a lot quicker than a full re-tool. The aim was to get rid of the split chassis mechanisms quickly and thus be able to continue to fulfil modellers demands for certain loco classes (Its all very well Sam saying a loco is rubbish - but to use an example, if you are specifically modelling the Isle of Wight in the late 1940s say you can hardly go round using a Midland 1P instead of an O2 and make a realistic model of said Isle can you) while also avoiding 'losing' models to rival manufacturers (Quite logically if a rival comes along they are going to deprive you of sales - be it budget modellers if its a 'basic / railroad version' or high end modellers who would otherwise be looking to detail up your own offering in the absence of anything better). Therefore given a loco chassis doesn't usually require lots of fiddly separately fitted detail, a 'chassis only' upgrade makes quite a lot of commercial sense. Bachmann were also influenced by things like the fact that their completely retooled Jubilee class model (replacing a split chassis version that had been in the range since the early 90s) didn't sell as well as was predicted thus making Bachmanns owners (Kadder holdings) question such a costly investment even though the modelling community were pretty vocal in requesting a new model - AND NOTE it was well over a decade ago when the Jubilee was done so well before the big hike in Bachmanns prices we have seen in the past few years). Other models which got a 'quickie new chassis only' job as a result included the Ivatt class 2 2-6-2 Tank and the LNER V2. Criticism from modellers about the V2 (whose body was dimensionally inaccurate as well as being quite crude) in particular subsequently made Bachmann think again - and as such they pledged to retool the body too in due course - the fruits of which we will see very shortly (I expect a few further tweaks to the chassis too by the way). IIRC the criticism Bachmann received (particularly over the V2) has made them change their minds and no further 'chassis only upgrades are on the cards. Equally with Acurascale doing the GWR Manors and Dapol doing the 43XX moguls its also true to say that there 'need' in the market for a revamp of the last few Bachmann split chassis designs has pretty much evaporated. So its rather a case of 'when' rather than 'if' the V3 gets a new body - although given the way prices are rising GLOBALLY (plus the stance of Kadder Holdings who are demanding Bachman generate much increased revenues to the parent company), a newly retooled body is going to come with a significant increase the RRP. The phrase 'be careful what you wish for springs to mind.... ;)
So a reversal of what Bachmann usually does? Wasn't expecting that. But I suppose the same can be said about the animated Diary of a Wimpy Kid remake by Disney.
Performance is nice. Which is a good feature I'll grant you that. But it's a shame Bachmann doesn't have a budget beginners model range like hornby does with their Railroad range. Hornby's older tooled and less detailed models are placed in that range often at a price that's more reasonable. Take the Hornby 9f for example, that model is incredibly old, but it's still good enough for a beginner range loco and has become a Railroad range staple. If Bachman had a simular range, then suddenly a lot of their... lack luster models won't sell so poorly. Good performance and competent design for the mechanism should be a basic standard to begin with, and the price should start at that. Details, and features should be treated like extras, and they should never push a loco over a certain price point. For one example, I bought my LBCR E4 tank for £84, which was good, but the mechanism worries me at times. Looking at your model though, I honestly wouldn't pay more than £50 for it. If I wanted it at all and For £50 it would certainly make a good present for a child at Christmas. £130rrp is just nothing short of being greedy though.
Thinking about it,though, back when I first got involved with the hobby when you bought a new model the first thing you did was take nitromors to the livery, super detail the model and then repaint rename and number it. That meant, for instance, that you could change the side that a 4F was driven from by swapping the reversing rod because you needed a Midland Railway built example. You didn’t rely on the manufacturer to provide a ready to run model out of the box. Perhaps that was why it was called modelling. Nowadays it seems all the work goes into the scenics and sometimes weathering and we expect superdetailing out of the box. Maybe that’s why the models are so expensive
It seems that at a Bachmann committee meeting they decided 'let's design a great chassis' months later? They have another meeting, 'well what we're going to stick on it?' ..... we have this.... oops. Perhaps though a sign of good things to come? The detail looks on par with my old Mainline N2 from the 1980's! However, I will always go for a good runner over detail..... showing my age. Another excellent review, and it looked stunning pulling the rolling stock you coupled to it
I do agree with You Kevin. A good runner is top priority. Details we can - eventually - add ourselves. I intend to repaint my model anyway. Cheers, Filip
I'd prefer a good running loco over a highly detailed one any day. Details a modeler can add or change at their leisure, and even end up learning a thing or two about the prototype in the process, but an inferior motor and drive system, well, that's another story.
@@Poliss95 I would prefer that too, to have both, but if I had to choose just one, I would go with the good mechanism. I got carpal tunnel and arthritis in both hands, comes from a lifetime of working with hand tools ever since I was three years old. I do take prescription strength meds for my hands, but I do worry about the day my hands get bad enough to not be able to do fine detail work.
Is the tank at 22:54 the odd one? I don't know what it is 100% but judging by the shot of it from the rear it looks alot like a BR Standard Class 3 MT tank? Aside from that I'm honestly impressed, this is like probably one of the first times I've watch you review a Bachmann engine and it has bearings that aren't going to eat the axles at some point, I might have to grab one
If Bachmann's taken this out of their current catalogue, I could see them having them taken it down to update the tooling for the body and make it more modern. Hopefully they keep the good later mechanism & chassey.
Monks! Who were basically half of The Strawbs, of all bands. (Not to be confused with The Monks, who were American service men who got themselves into a whole world of trouble by turning their military crew cuts into monks tonsures! Pretty fair garage band, otherwise.
it's a shame it's so expensive. I've been wanting to get a british locomotive and I've been looking at the suburban tank engines. I've never had a OO locomotive and this would've been a good starting point. plus, I prefer performance over looks so the old body wouldn't be a huge problem
Hi sam I was thinking about getting this as a starter engine for my cousin. Would you recommend it or should I go for like an 08 shutter or something like that
i do have 3 of these new chassis versions and its clear the body is from the 90s as i recall . a used example back then with the style of box with flap on front very sad a bit of cab detail would have being nice that price is silly
The odd one out is the Standard 4 Tank Engine hiding behind the pub. I'll bet she was jealous that your new steamy had all the fun, while she had none. In any case.... Once, an engine attached to a train was pretending she didn't like rain, She hid in the tunnel, squeaked through her funnel and didn't come out again. Well, it wasn't quite like that. The grey W4 Peckett Saddle Tank Engine did move an inch forward, she was just a bit timid. Sam did his best to coax her out, and then realised he'd somehow turned himself into a ghost. The grey steamy shrank back fearfully. "YIKES!" shrieked Sam, wondering what was going on. "How did this happen?" Thankfully, he woke up. A relief. Little Miss Grey Peckett was running around like a frightened kitten, yet other steamies helped her to get used to her surroundings. The little steamy felt better. "Don't apologise," advised Sam kindly. "We all get scared of something sometimes." "What are you most afraid of?" the little Peckett asked curiously. "A ghost train," came the reply. "I don't know why, other than one is sometimes requested by a friend of mine." The steamy agreed there were some things we can't explain. Broome Manor had been stuck on the turntable all this time. Sam helped her out. "I thought you were scared of Little Peckett here," observed Sam. "I did try and get your attention," sighed the Great Western Steamy. "Sorry," apologised Sam. "My bad." Everyone laughed. All was good to go. Little Peckett was still somewhat shy. Broome Manor helped her come out of her shell. I wonder what sort of ghost train story Sam might have up his sleeves.😂👻
Great video Sam. It seems Bachman can put a good mechanism in an engine but then cheapen on the details so you still do not get your money’s worth. I think one day they will get it together. Cannot wait for your next video.
Now that Bachmann have produced even an above average quality mechanism like this they leave themselves no excuses for their other below average and terrible mechanisms. I’m really impressed. Pity about the bad detail of the bodywork
Certainly looks like the tooling is old with all of that mould flash showing. Such a shame really. Nice looking loco though. I bought the Hornby K1 a few months ago, for £89 and it’s wonderful!
I like the look of the Class V3, the detail can be better tho, but at least the performance saves this locomotive being on the bottom of your ranking list!
I have one of these, but is the split chassis version. It runs well and is pretty powerful, but was a right pain to DCC (I added an 8-pin socket in the cab) I saw the reviews when this version and the similar release of the Ivatt 2MT tank first came out, and they slated the detailing. Which is why the new bachmann J72 was designed from the ground up instead of reusing the old body again. I do want to get a V1 to compliment the V3, which would have to have the original coal bunkers instead of the modified type and whatever, but I'm not sure if I should try one of these newer ones (if I can get one as a V1) or just go with the older models and face the pain of adding a DCC socket to yet another split chassis loco (I still have to convert my V2, rebuilt Royal Scot, unrebuilt Royal Scot (which also needs new smoke deflectors), an 03, and several J72s... Edit: I'm gonna go for the older model. There'll be less flashing and a smaller moulding line, and I'm sure mine has a cab backhead (I do have a backhead laying on my desk, unsure if this is from one of the two ivatt tanks or the v3). Edit 2: Although..... I may be able to reduce the flashing, and add some backhead detail maybe. That chassis does seem to run very well... As for the new build, everything is waiting on the progress of the A1SLT's new base. They were hoping to get their new place ready before the P2 is completed, so they could start building the V4 at the same time (they don't have the space in their current building). And the V3 would follow the V4 since they share several parts I believe. I've got 1 V3, 2 standard 4 tanks (both black though), and a J50. Still need a V1, an L1, and an N2
Thanks for sharing - yes those are a pain to DCC... but well done for persevering!! That's interesting... wonder if the original plan for the J72 was to reuse the body then? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
hi sam. bachmanns Halloween edition.. they just cannot get it right but this time perfectly designed chassis and mechanical works but shoddy body and cosmetics.
@Sam’s Trains I’ve been thinking. I visit your channel and look through your playlists. I did came across the “Great Engineers” playlist and see your videos in there. However, none of these videos is Bulleid. I noticed on some of your videos that you’ve been fascinated with Bulleid locomotives. I think that you might consider this idea.
Yeah you're right! I just don't have enough different Bullied designs to fill a video sadly... but he sure was a great engineer! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Fun fact: SR Q1 ‘C1’ had been running on the Bluebell Railway since the ‘70s. I saw it running on archive videos which are easily accessible on YT.
Are Die-Cast bodies/running plates and boilers really something that we want? Consider the nasty issues with the likes of the Hornby class 31s and them dropping to bits after a while. What if this happens to the entire body of a steam loco model?
To be honest I do not think £130 RRP is that bad for a locomotive that performs as well as this one does. A discounted price of ~£100 is verging on bargain territory. Modern 0-4-0s are now £100+ RRP and despite the crude detail the V3 does look OK overall. If you are willing to forgo fine detail for performance and a relatively low price by today's standards the V3 is a sound choice. Would I buy one? Yes, definitely.
Hi Sam just watching you on the yesterday TV ch on hornby a model world, laughed so much when you played with the A4 mallard, that poor motor, was it hot when you finished?
haha thanks Francis, glad you liked it! No it was actually fine - I agreed with the production team not to go over 30v... but if I was on my own I would've gone far higher than that. The Hornby motors are actually 12-24v ones... so 30v isn't that much of a push.... I can see them handling 40-50v without blowing... definitely a future video idea! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
BPS&D chip worked perfectly fine in the Bachmann J72 I have tried 2 other manufacturers chip and they didn't work in it eather plus i replaced the dcc board with the same result but clearly something was wrong with the 3 different manufacturers of chips and this model hopefully it's the only one with this issue and the last one I get with the issue
9:10 - Whoa! Look at that smokebox door. Looks like there’s a picture of a cow’s head and a glass of milk. I shall call this engine milk face. I drank milk from the cow over 15 hours a day. Just like Sylvester the cat. 19:38 - Sylvester the cat: Oh dear, looks like we are not at Yorktown anymore. [Turns toward the radio] easy, son. Sylvester Jr: Okay! [Turns off the remote, and noticed the donut cat standing right in front of Tweety, Sylvester, Sylvester Jr, and Hippety Hopper, turns around and noticed the crayon car standing right behind them] Sylvester the cat: Now, son. What if your dog “Patch” doesn’t give up eating your DONUTS. What are they gonna do, son? Sylvester Jr: Then, [Grabs his father’s cheek] then you’re gonna help my dog and my cat named furball take all the donuts away! Sylvester the cat: [MUFFLED] They what? There’s no milk on my father’s truck? Sylvester Jr: No, they are needed for your house for the party. Sylvester the cat: in case he hadn’t noticed … … [Hears the radio beeping] Giganto pussy cat: Oh, what are you guys going on with it? Sylvester the cat: Why, brother. I told you you had a notebook on your hand and Justice for your king. I mean this or something. Granny is getting married and I have to stop the wedding. [Turns around and noticed the V3 reversing] 20:28 - Sylvester the cat: Suffering succotash! Why am I… whoa! Are we moving! Sylvester Jr: Thank you, children! 20:42 - V3: Ya boo snubs! 22:09 - Sylvester the Cat: [Shouts] Everyone, jump! [Tweety and the others jump] Sylvester Jr: Nice going for a shout, father. Sylvester the cat: good thing we’re in Toytown.
Was that a 4MT hiding on a siding? So random that Bachmann either has the looks and doesn't run, or runs well but let down in the details. A new body and some cab detail would make this great, but at what cost!?
Fair review Sam. For 150 € we would be quite miffed tbh. Overall sloppy looking put together and outdated tooling... Yet, not in stock anymore... sold out at Hattons. People seem to fall for it, and they know it.
"Low cost beginners model", funny you should say that, this was my first OO gauge loco.
Oh wow!! Once upon a time this was reasonable... I remember them being much cheaper than they are now!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains well Bachmann raising their prices is one made up word I like to call "Bachminnflation"
I have a early Bachmann V3 in BR early black , sadly it's a non- runner at present so resigned to the display shelf , quite like these tank engines , might have to get one of these new ones if I can find one for a reasonable price?
@@SamsTrains Hello. Can you do the review of the green arrow No. 4771 please. Don’t give away this V2 video please.
Hi Sam, not sure if you're gonna read this, or anyone else after your Bachman review. Im in the process of constructing a suitable area in my loft to run all the Hornby etc OO stuff that I've collected since moving to Northern Ireland. I plan to have the layout at waist level or above and use loft boards as a base. The question is: can i or should I use a sound deadening material such as cork or something on the base boards? Can you recommend something? Btw I dont ever plan to have scenery, houses etc just plain track.
Cheers mate, I enjoy all your reviews but some of them encourage purchases! Lol
Looking at the title of this video, you've done similar titles in the past so viewers can brave themselves with what tge review will be like. I like the idea of future reviews having a brief few word summary in the video title as that is something I personally enjoy with my YT watching experience
haha thanks Luke - yeah this one was easily summed up in the title! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Just try not to make them too clickbaity. Like "Old engine can we make it run again"? And the engine is only 40 years old. Still young by locomotive standards. And the answer is ALWAYS yes in my own experience. Even 100 year old engines who have had no replacement parts made in many decades can always be made to run. Just a question of determination and skill on the part of the restorer. Seriously. There is another channel that use those awful clickbait titles and I really do not think much of that.
I'm a big fan of the slightly older post split chassis bachmann engines, to me the detail is still passable and you don't have to worry about things breaking and falling off every time you pick them up like on some of hornby's engines, I'll concede the mechanisms aren't exactly cutting edge but in my experience they've alway been reliable runners. And finally, there's always bargains up for grabs on the second hand market. That being said I would never buy a brand new locomotive from bachmann in this day and age but with prices being what they are I'm not really buying much new from manufacturers at all anyways :p
Dear Sam,
I did enjoy your review of the updated Bachmann V1/3 2-6-2 Tank loco.
When the new model came out, I asked Bachmann if they were going to bring out a LNER Black version as well. They said no. So I asked if the old body would fit the new chassis. They said as the new chassis was a complete Retooling, it would not fit the old body. I had hoped they would bring out a new version of the LNER black one.
My local model shop still had some of the new V3 models in stock. So I bought one and to see if it would fit the old body. I test fitted the old body on the new chassis and low and behold it fitted like a glove. All the screw holes matched up. I have been able to restore all my V1's with new chassis having bought two more of the new models to use the chassis to replace the broken axels. My Fleet of V1's 466,448 and 2911. I think the earlier body was much better than the new one.
Well, a nice candidate for a retooling... At a discount price, no more than GBP 50, it can be acceptable. Bachmann pushes the use of their outdated mold to the end, I hope they will not do another run of this antique. The chassis is very nice, and the drivetrain more than decent, they just have to add a flywheel to have something at the top. The reverse of a shelf queen : ugly, but pulls hard.
As a small tank engine, Bachmann did a very decent MR 0-4-4 recently, they can take it as a pattern for a retooling of this one. They have the chassis, they just need to retool the body.
Yep, that's it exactly. They would probably bump up the price, however.
Hi Sam, I have been watching your reviews and I won't buy Bachmann products now...maybe that's a bit extreme but in general it seems they don't hold up to your scrutiny. I have recently bought 10 Hornby locomotives including 2 train packs based on your reviews so thanks for doing this, it makes such a difference to see the product in detail before buying. I live in Canada so I can't just go down to the local shop and check it out myself, they don;t sell OO here, so your reviews are invaluable to me. I'm very grateful for your channel, keep up the good work!
Bachmann also did new chassis for the V2 and A4 around the same time some years ago now. I have a few of each.
22:15 Aw yeah, there's my boy J50! What a treat. Great review as always, Sam.
haha yep - amazing models those J50s! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Bachmann making a good mechanism??? That's rare
Bachmann never seem to get it right. Either the mech is awesome and the body looks like that of sumo fighter or vice versa! Bachmann are obviously drunk with power! Great video as always!
haha I know - it's so frustrating isn't it?!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Got the old V3 which still runs OK. Presumably much of the mechanism for the new V3 will be from the new V2 mechanism. Looking forward to your review of a V2.
Sam, another good review. When I watched this review, I thought at first I was watching a repeat of your 52xx review. Virtually all the comments on detail, mechanism, price, performance are extremely similar! It seems Hornby and Bachmann are putting prices up significantly for lower detail models.
Having said that, no I would not buy this engine with the visibly poor moulding on top of the boiler.
Thanks for another excellent review.
I've just had a thought, you should run your single wheel coaches with your John bull or lafayette loco, i bet they would match quite well. Any update on motorising the lafayatte. Great job Sam 👍
Oh fantastic idea - they'd suit those coaches so well!! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great review & appropriate title Sam. Comes down to personal choice as you stated & I way prefer a decent mechanism and weight in a loco over detail any day. Wouldn’t pay 130GBP though ($240AUD) but maybe 95GBP
Yes I have this model. Was a present so can't comment on price but it is a good runner. Detail is a bit crap, especially the cab but at least it's quite an enclosed cab so it's not too bad. Sticking a driver in the window would improve the model
I like these engines. They are one of my favourites. - Samuel
A good runner like this is a useful replacement for an old Tri-ang or Hornby layout loco which has seen its best days! To avoid sticking problems, I would do the run-in before performing the slow speed test. If you don't do the run-in first, particularly if the loco has plastic cogs, you can give the loco a permanent limp! Thanks for uploading.
Yes, I owned a couple of those getting on for 20 years ago-similar in vintage to the venerable Class N, still in production, which I also own.
The V3 is quite a lot older than the N class!
For reference The N Class appeared around 1998 (and along with a re-tooled 'Collet Goods 0-6-0) was notable as it was one of the first of the Bachmann 'Blue Ribbon' designs which didn't use a split chassis.
Unsurprisingly the years (or more specifically the repeated use of the same tooling with only the tiniest of tweaks to accommodate a DCC socket) have not done the N class any favours BUT it still fills a important gap in the ranks of RTR models (as does the V3).
As I said above - if you are actually building a scale model of a proper place (rather than just running what pleases you) then your selection of locos is going to be heavily influenced by what was operating on the real thing. The SECR / Southern N class mogul was a true 'go anywhere' design and could be seen from Kent to Cornwall on Freight and passenger work plus was a very long lived design.
So although Bachmanns current RRP for it is way off the mark and it is in desperate need of an upgrade, the loco itself is still of value to modellers looking for realism in their layouts.
@@philkeller4170 Thanks Phil, my layout is Southern-themed and the N, noisy as it is, is a regular and reliable performer. As a youthful train spotter in the early-mid 1960s I would occasionally see one clanking through Clapham Junction or alongside my school's playing field (situated right where the Brighton and South Western lines diverged), although by that time only a few remained.
So bachmann works under the philosophy of either a nice body and detail or a nice mechanism. Is there a bachmann loco that has both, there must be.
Perhaps pigs might fly one day! Lol.
The v3 tank loco is a very beauty one. Nice video as always.
looking at the diagrams on the paperwork it has the same set up as the 94xx with a pre-fitted sugar cube speaker
Sam! You should try to make an n scale layout! Or atleast an n scale loop of track, like your o scale layout!
I totally should do! Really want to do that one day! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, A much revealing, nice and honest review. It is time that Bachmann should consult you for advice on their design team. You nailed it again and your score is spot on - not even Bachmann could argue about you findings. A nice model that has a 'potential' future IF Bachmann reviewed its policies. But I doubt this since these companies are just run by bookkeepers and lawyers who only look for a high profit to pay the shareholders. But as we all know: "Capitalism IS THE CRISIS" Thanks & Cheers, Filip
Thanks a lot Filip - haha wouldn't that be the day?! xD
It sure does have potential - even if they don't retool it - a Hornby railroad-esque model would be great to see from Bachmann!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, I have just been sent your 2021 video on the V3, wish I'd seen it earlier. I've just bought the 2023 V1 released a few weeks ago and was shocked to discover no cab detail whatsoever, not even some basic molding, nuffing 😮😮.. with an RRP of £170, some cab interior would be standard, but not on this model! I've written to Bachmann complaining, its verging on misdescriptiom as I don't know of any other loco like this old or new
Good review Sam. I'd be interested to see a review of the newer Bachmann Ivatt 2-6-2 if you ever got your hands on one, as I feel it's a very similar story, ie; a rather old body with a brand new chassis.
I have both the split chassis and new chassis Ivatt 2-6-2's and have to admit the new one is an absolute pleasure to run due to the superior running, despite the dated detail on the body.
I've been looking out for that one too Ian - I'd be very interested in it too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is an old 1990s loco . I think I got mine 92 or 93 . Mine is the old split chassis version but she still runs ok , admittedly she doesn’t see a lot of use . I actually think it’s not a bad model . It successfully captures the look of the loco and I think is still passable . How many people look in the cab? You are correct though Bachmann charge top rate for all their models . I think they have to pay Kader to make the models
Bachmann is owned by Kader.
@@tinplategeek1058 I know and Kader are looking for the same returns they get making US or European stuff . Why wouldn’t they . But while Dapol , Hornby use different factories probably to get good rates , Bachmann are stuck with Kader . Interesting to expand the range they now have EFE who use different factories .
So pleased to see this loco as it was so common in the 50s where I lived in the Wirral
That's great to hear David - glad to have shown something you're familiar with!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
might get one of those, seen as "mechanism" is good quality......joyn the two hornby L1s....which are very nice and god runners....
The fact that this thing has a similar score to the KR Models GT3…
Currently making one of these in Lego. It is a truly beautiful tank engine
Amazing!! Got to send me a pic when it's done! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
If this was Hornby, I bet it would be a Railroad model, not much detail but fantastic runners!
What a Bummer. I am watching this Because I love the look of these Tank Engines ( as in, No Tender.)
And was thinking of buying one of these Models.
As that Parting line and very visible Flashing is a "Real Turn off..!"
Obviously Bachmann don't own a set of Fine File's.
But its a Real turn off due to trying to improve that would require repainting. And even with an Airbrush, Would stand out like 'Dogs Balls..!'
Maybe Weathering may help hide the Repairs..!!
But not something, one should be needing to do to on a Straight out the box model..!
Cheers Sam another great review. Cheers All..!! Kim in Oz. 😎
Interesting video Sam. Thank you.
It's funny, isn't it Sam? Here we have a Bachmann loco with a very good mechanism (5 pole motor it is believed, proper bearings, full driving wheel pickups and the loco being a pretty good crawler), yet has a very outdated and rubbish body! Lol. Quite the reverse of many a previous Bachmann loco. Will they ever get it right, in all aspects? I suspect that they might have charged a lot more for an updated body, than the current RRP of £129.95. Not for me, this one. The blank cab is unforgivable. Best, Pete.
I always like watching your Bachmann reviews, as they help to raise awareness of their questionable decisions. For instance, I can't understand why they didn't bother doing an entirely new LNER V3 tooling, and still charged over 100 pounds for a very old bodyshell.
Seems like a real mixed bag to me.
haha thank you! That's true though - people should be aware of this sort of practice! New tooled V3 would definitely have made it worth the money!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
For a number of years Bachmann had (and publicly stated they were doing it) a 'chassis only' upgrade programme on the basis that they could design and bring to market a updated chassis a lot quicker than a full re-tool.
The aim was to get rid of the split chassis mechanisms quickly and thus be able to continue to fulfil modellers demands for certain loco classes (Its all very well Sam saying a loco is rubbish - but to use an example, if you are specifically modelling the Isle of Wight in the late 1940s say you can hardly go round using a Midland 1P instead of an O2 and make a realistic model of said Isle can you) while also avoiding 'losing' models to rival manufacturers (Quite logically if a rival comes along they are going to deprive you of sales - be it budget modellers if its a 'basic / railroad version' or high end modellers who would otherwise be looking to detail up your own offering in the absence of anything better).
Therefore given a loco chassis doesn't usually require lots of fiddly separately fitted detail, a 'chassis only' upgrade makes quite a lot of commercial sense.
Bachmann were also influenced by things like the fact that their completely retooled Jubilee class model (replacing a split chassis version that had been in the range since the early 90s) didn't sell as well as was predicted thus making Bachmanns owners (Kadder holdings) question such a costly investment even though the modelling community were pretty vocal in requesting a new model - AND NOTE it was well over a decade ago when the Jubilee was done so well before the big hike in Bachmanns prices we have seen in the past few years).
Other models which got a 'quickie new chassis only' job as a result included the Ivatt class 2 2-6-2 Tank and the LNER V2. Criticism from modellers about the V2 (whose body was dimensionally inaccurate as well as being quite crude) in particular subsequently made Bachmann think again - and as such they pledged to retool the body too in due course - the fruits of which we will see very shortly (I expect a few further tweaks to the chassis too by the way).
IIRC the criticism Bachmann received (particularly over the V2) has made them change their minds and no further 'chassis only upgrades are on the cards. Equally with Acurascale doing the GWR Manors and Dapol doing the 43XX moguls its also true to say that there 'need' in the market for a revamp of the last few Bachmann split chassis designs has pretty much evaporated.
So its rather a case of 'when' rather than 'if' the V3 gets a new body - although given the way prices are rising GLOBALLY (plus the stance of Kadder Holdings who are demanding Bachman generate much increased revenues to the parent company), a newly retooled body is going to come with a significant increase the RRP. The phrase 'be careful what you wish for springs to mind.... ;)
Nice work Sam!
Do you have any plans of buying Hornby's new "SECR" e2? I think a video review of that loco would be very popular.
I personally think the v3 is quite nice when it comes to detail, you can pick them up for a decent price from what I have seen.
True
It's not bad - but at the latest RRP it should be better! It's only okay at the right price!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love these engines. Mine is 67667
Value for money isn't Bachmanns strong point
Chunky little wacko. I love him.
I heard that Bachmann was retooling their Shay locomotives. I'm gonna pre-order the type C (3 trucks, 3 pistons) when & if it drops.
So a reversal of what Bachmann usually does? Wasn't expecting that. But I suppose the same can be said about the animated Diary of a Wimpy Kid remake by Disney.
Performance is nice. Which is a good feature I'll grant you that.
But it's a shame Bachmann doesn't have a budget beginners model range like hornby does with their Railroad range.
Hornby's older tooled and less detailed models are placed in that range often at a price that's more reasonable.
Take the Hornby 9f for example, that model is incredibly old, but it's still good enough for a beginner range loco and has become a Railroad range staple.
If Bachman had a simular range, then suddenly a lot of their... lack luster models won't sell so poorly.
Good performance and competent design for the mechanism should be a basic standard to begin with, and the price should start at that. Details, and features should be treated like extras, and they should never push a loco over a certain price point.
For one example, I bought my LBCR E4 tank for £84, which was good, but the mechanism worries me at times.
Looking at your model though, I honestly wouldn't pay more than £50 for it. If I wanted it at all and For £50 it would certainly make a good present for a child at Christmas.
£130rrp is just nothing short of being greedy though.
Nice one Sam
Great video sam the big company's are starting to choose quanty over quality and charging stupid prices for very little
haha yeah we've seen that quite a lot... though they're not even producing quantity in most cases any more ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Not quantity - quite obviously it’s profit over quality
Thinking about it,though, back when I first got involved with the hobby when you bought a new model the first thing you did was take nitromors to the livery, super detail the model and then repaint rename and number it. That meant, for instance, that you could change the side that a 4F was driven from by swapping the reversing rod because you needed a Midland Railway built example. You didn’t rely on the manufacturer to provide a ready to run model out of the box. Perhaps that was why it was called modelling. Nowadays it seems all the work goes into the scenics and sometimes weathering and we expect superdetailing out of the box. Maybe that’s why the models are so expensive
Bachman is pulling a Hornby with this one. :P
It seems that at a Bachmann committee meeting they decided 'let's design a great chassis' months later? They have another meeting, 'well what we're going to stick on it?' ..... we have this.... oops. Perhaps though a sign of good things to come?
The detail looks on par with my old Mainline N2 from the 1980's! However, I will always go for a good runner over detail..... showing my age.
Another excellent review, and it looked stunning pulling the rolling stock you coupled to it
I do agree with You Kevin. A good runner is top priority. Details we can - eventually - add ourselves. I intend to repaint my model anyway. Cheers, Filip
I'd prefer a good running loco over a highly detailed one any day. Details a modeler can add or change at their leisure, and even end up learning a thing or two about the prototype in the process, but an inferior motor and drive system, well, that's another story.
You may be able to add details, but my skill isn't up to it. Hands too shaky these days.
I'd prefer detail AND a good mechanism.
@@Poliss95 I would prefer that too, to have both, but if I had to choose just one, I would go with the good mechanism. I got carpal tunnel and arthritis in both hands, comes from a lifetime of working with hand tools ever since I was three years old. I do take prescription strength meds for my hands, but I do worry about the day my hands get bad enough to not be able to do fine detail work.
Is the tank at 22:54 the odd one? I don't know what it is 100% but judging by the shot of it from the rear it looks alot like a BR Standard Class 3 MT tank?
Aside from that I'm honestly impressed, this is like probably one of the first times I've watch you review a Bachmann engine and it has bearings that aren't going to eat the axles at some point, I might have to grab one
Yes I think that was the one - well spotted! Yes I was very impressed with the mech too... surprising!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Old 1990's locomotive... cough ... Marklin, Roco, Fleischmann, Lilliput...... cough.... Apparently those brands were way ahead of their time.
If Bachmann's taken this out of their current catalogue, I could see them having them taken it down to update the tooling for the body and make it more modern. Hopefully they keep the good later mechanism & chassey.
I hope you're right - that'd be great to see... and they have a headstart with this chassis!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Not gonna lie, that loco’s details makes it look like triang Hornby…
haha yep - it's definitely similar to those locos! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
In the words of the old song "nice legs, shame about the face"
Monks! Who were basically half of The Strawbs, of all bands. (Not to be confused with The Monks, who were American service men who got themselves into a whole world of trouble by turning their military crew cuts into monks tonsures! Pretty fair garage band, otherwise.
What must be taken into consideration is ... The body shell tooling here is over 30 years old so, it can't really be compared to modern offerings
it's a shame it's so expensive. I've been wanting to get a british locomotive and I've been looking at the suburban tank engines. I've never had a OO locomotive and this would've been a good starting point.
plus, I prefer performance over looks so the old body wouldn't be a huge problem
Hi sam I was thinking about getting this as a starter engine for my cousin. Would you recommend it or should I go for like an 08 shutter or something like that
Sure! The later Bachmann 08s are great models! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Cheers Sam thanks
i do have 3 of these new chassis versions and its clear the body is from the 90s as i recall . a used example back then with the style of box with flap on front very sad a bit of cab detail would have being nice that price is silly
At a lower price a perfect model! Bachmann really need to get their act together. Great review Sam :D
Yeah absolutely - this needed a new body at this price, end of story!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The odd one out is the Standard 4 Tank Engine hiding behind the pub. I'll bet she was jealous that your new steamy had all the fun, while she had none. In any case....
Once, an engine attached to a train was pretending she didn't like rain,
She hid in the tunnel, squeaked through her funnel and didn't come out again.
Well, it wasn't quite like that. The grey W4 Peckett Saddle Tank Engine did move an inch forward, she was just a bit timid. Sam did his best to coax her out, and then realised he'd somehow turned himself into a ghost. The grey steamy shrank back fearfully.
"YIKES!" shrieked Sam, wondering what was going on. "How did this happen?" Thankfully, he woke up. A relief. Little Miss Grey Peckett was running around like a frightened kitten, yet other steamies helped her to get used to her surroundings. The little steamy felt better.
"Don't apologise," advised Sam kindly. "We all get scared of something sometimes."
"What are you most afraid of?" the little Peckett asked curiously.
"A ghost train," came the reply. "I don't know why, other than one is sometimes requested by a friend of mine." The steamy agreed there were some things we can't explain. Broome Manor had been stuck on the turntable all this time. Sam helped her out.
"I thought you were scared of Little Peckett here," observed Sam.
"I did try and get your attention," sighed the Great Western Steamy.
"Sorry," apologised Sam. "My bad." Everyone laughed. All was good to go.
Little Peckett was still somewhat shy. Broome Manor helped her come out of her shell. I wonder what sort of ghost train story Sam might have up his sleeves.😂👻
I don't really mind the bodywork, as long as it isn't in extremely bad condition and works okay, I'm interested!
That's fair enough Mike - it's not terrible or anything!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video Sam. It seems Bachman can put a good mechanism in an engine but then cheapen on the details so you still do not get your money’s worth. I think one day they will get it together. Cannot wait for your next video.
Thanks Louis - that's definitely what's happened here... hopefully they'll get it right with their new releases!! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You could update your old V3 with a replacement chassis. I expect the body shell would have the same fixing points.
Pretty sure you're right about the fixing points... it'd just be a case of repainting the wheels!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The only Reuben Wells ever made is in a museum the Reuben Wells had a sister engine
In the M. G. Bright
i say the new V1/V3 does it's job, the details is basically a 'meh', but running it is a dream.
nice review btw.
Yeah - it's acceptable... very good job the mechanism was good!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains your welcome
is very similar to Arthur, from Thomas and friends
This one looks nice apart from the lack of detail. Great review. What a good runner though.
Yeah for sure - any sort of distance and she's fine! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
An older Bachmann model with an upgraded chassis AND has proper bearings? Wow. My whole world has turned upside-down.
Nice Loco - pity about the bad bits about it that let it down!!! 😐🚂🚂🚂
So I wonder why Bachmann didn't use this chassis for the ND standard class 3?
Now that Bachmann have produced even an above average quality mechanism like this they leave themselves no excuses for their other below average and terrible mechanisms. I’m really impressed. Pity about the bad detail of the bodywork
I think Sam Trains could 3D model this and show us how much better he can do
Certainly looks like the tooling is old with all of that mould flash showing. Such a shame really. Nice looking loco though. I bought the Hornby K1 a few months ago, for £89 and it’s wonderful!
Sam my hornby motor heat up after 10 laps what should I do thx?
Cheers Jasper & Willow
A little warmth is okay - as long as the loco is cleaned and lightly lubricated, it's normal! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thx Sam
Cheers Jasper & Willow
I like your choice of coaches for this engine they could be use for Gordon express on the leyout 😊😊😊😊
haha yeah I love those too - perfect for Gordon! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I like the look of the Class V3, the detail can be better tho, but at least the performance saves this locomotive being on the bottom of your ranking list!
Yeah I'm with you there... and glad this wasn't bottom! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I have one of these, but is the split chassis version. It runs well and is pretty powerful, but was a right pain to DCC (I added an 8-pin socket in the cab)
I saw the reviews when this version and the similar release of the Ivatt 2MT tank first came out, and they slated the detailing. Which is why the new bachmann J72 was designed from the ground up instead of reusing the old body again.
I do want to get a V1 to compliment the V3, which would have to have the original coal bunkers instead of the modified type and whatever, but I'm not sure if I should try one of these newer ones (if I can get one as a V1) or just go with the older models and face the pain of adding a DCC socket to yet another split chassis loco (I still have to convert my V2, rebuilt Royal Scot, unrebuilt Royal Scot (which also needs new smoke deflectors), an 03, and several J72s...
Edit: I'm gonna go for the older model. There'll be less flashing and a smaller moulding line, and I'm sure mine has a cab backhead (I do have a backhead laying on my desk, unsure if this is from one of the two ivatt tanks or the v3).
Edit 2: Although..... I may be able to reduce the flashing, and add some backhead detail maybe. That chassis does seem to run very well...
As for the new build, everything is waiting on the progress of the A1SLT's new base. They were hoping to get their new place ready before the P2 is completed, so they could start building the V4 at the same time (they don't have the space in their current building). And the V3 would follow the V4 since they share several parts I believe.
I've got 1 V3, 2 standard 4 tanks (both black though), and a J50. Still need a V1, an L1, and an N2
Thanks for sharing - yes those are a pain to DCC... but well done for persevering!! That's interesting... wonder if the original plan for the J72 was to reuse the body then?
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Interesting… with Bachman, it’s usually the other way around!
haha exactly - complete flip isn't it? ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi sam I hope you're ok
It seems that bachmann upgrading older models but charging modern prices in a lot of cases
Hey Lewis - hope you are too! Yeah for sure.... definitely charging a lot for this one D:
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
hi sam. bachmanns Halloween edition.. they just cannot get it right but this time perfectly designed chassis and mechanical works but shoddy body and cosmetics.
haha can you believe it? It's like a perfect switcharoo! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Awesome video today Sam beautiful locomotive might have to get one
Thanks so much James! If you value performance over looks, then absolutely! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains yeah
@Sam’s Trains I’ve been thinking. I visit your channel and look through your playlists. I did came across the “Great Engineers” playlist and see your videos in there. However, none of these videos is Bulleid. I noticed on some of your videos that you’ve been fascinated with Bulleid locomotives. I think that you might consider this idea.
Yeah you're right! I just don't have enough different Bullied designs to fill a video sadly... but he sure was a great engineer!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Fun fact: SR Q1 ‘C1’ had been running on the Bluebell Railway since the ‘70s. I saw it running on archive videos which are easily accessible on YT.
150 pounds, did they sneak in a coreless motor with internal flywheels?
Are Die-Cast bodies/running plates and boilers really something that we want? Consider the nasty issues with the likes of the Hornby class 31s and them dropping to bits after a while. What if this happens to the entire body of a steam loco model?
Die-cast bodywork and chassis don't suffer from Mazak rot though.
7:38 that cab doesn’t look right
A 00 loco with no cab details should be, in one word, cheap.
To be honest I do not think £130 RRP is that bad for a locomotive that performs as well as this one does. A discounted price of ~£100 is verging on bargain territory. Modern 0-4-0s are now £100+ RRP and despite the crude detail the V3 does look OK overall. If you are willing to forgo fine detail for performance and a relatively low price by today's standards the V3 is a sound choice. Would I buy one? Yes, definitely.
With bachman it's usually the other way around
haha exactly - that's why this was so interesting! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think it would be cool to have links to where you bought the engines in your videos, I'd love to buy one for a similar value.
slightly irrelevant but can you redo the triang class 31's after a service and v good oiling? would love to see a service video too if possible
Looks like Eric from stories of sodor
Hi Sam just watching you on the yesterday TV ch on hornby a model world, laughed so much when you played with the A4 mallard, that poor motor, was it hot when you finished?
haha thanks Francis, glad you liked it! No it was actually fine - I agreed with the production team not to go over 30v... but if I was on my own I would've gone far higher than that. The Hornby motors are actually 12-24v ones... so 30v isn't that much of a push.... I can see them handling 40-50v without blowing... definitely a future video idea! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
8:27 awww
Which V3 model is better in your opinion?
I hope you don’t want to use a next 18 decoder as the one I fitted didn’t work I ended up hard wiring a lenz standard into it
You decide not to use a certain type of decoder because one out of thousands didn't work?
BPS&D chip worked perfectly fine in the Bachmann J72 I have tried 2 other manufacturers chip and they didn't work in it eather plus i replaced the dcc board with the same result but clearly something was wrong with the 3 different manufacturers of chips and this model hopefully it's the only one with this issue and the last one I get with the issue
They both sell unretooled models bachmann and hornby please retool all models
9:10 - Whoa! Look at that smokebox door. Looks like there’s a picture of a cow’s head and a glass of milk. I shall call this engine milk face. I drank milk from the cow over 15 hours a day. Just like Sylvester the cat.
19:38 - Sylvester the cat: Oh dear, looks like we are not at Yorktown anymore. [Turns toward the radio] easy, son.
Sylvester Jr: Okay! [Turns off the remote, and noticed the donut cat standing right in front of Tweety, Sylvester, Sylvester Jr, and Hippety Hopper, turns around and noticed the crayon car standing right behind them]
Sylvester the cat: Now, son. What if your dog “Patch” doesn’t give up eating your DONUTS. What are they gonna do, son?
Sylvester Jr: Then, [Grabs his father’s cheek] then you’re gonna help my dog and my cat named furball take all the donuts away!
Sylvester the cat: [MUFFLED] They what? There’s no milk on my father’s truck?
Sylvester Jr: No, they are needed for your house for the party.
Sylvester the cat: in case he hadn’t noticed … … [Hears the radio beeping]
Giganto pussy cat: Oh, what are you guys going on with it?
Sylvester the cat: Why, brother. I told you you had a notebook on your hand and Justice for your king. I mean this or something. Granny is getting married and I have to stop the wedding. [Turns around and noticed the V3 reversing]
20:28 - Sylvester the cat: Suffering succotash! Why am I… whoa! Are we moving!
Sylvester Jr: Thank you, children!
20:42 - V3: Ya boo snubs!
22:09 - Sylvester the Cat: [Shouts] Everyone, jump!
[Tweety and the others jump]
Sylvester Jr: Nice going for a shout, father.
Sylvester the cat: good thing we’re in Toytown.
Well done, Kenji! Marvelous! Good work on adult behavior.
@@linkopinko9766 Thank you mom! Looks like Sylvester the cat is smiling at you and wants to call the V3 A cow’s face engine.
@@kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001 Good work, Kenji! Thanks for being flexible.
@@linkopinko9766 Thank you. Now I’m being flexible and pretending to be a cow. Moo! Now I can pretend to be a lion! Roar!
@@kenjimaurerfromdisneyland2001 Wow! I like your copying one of the animals in the zoo and on the farm. Good work!
Was that a 4MT hiding on a siding?
So random that Bachmann either has the looks and doesn't run, or runs well but let down in the details. A new body and some cab detail would make this great, but at what cost!?
Fair review Sam. For 150 € we would be quite miffed tbh. Overall sloppy looking put together and outdated tooling... Yet, not in stock anymore... sold out at Hattons. People seem to fall for it, and they know it.
Lol, I agree with the title, and also how long did it take to build your layout
haha thank you! It sprang up over 2 or 3 years... but obviously I didn't put that much time into it ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)