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I’m a logger in Mississippi. It’s good to see someone who takes pride in their work! Everyone here is about production and loads and there is a lot of waste. It’s good to watch and learn new ideas! Keep up the good work!
The Boss could very well be a professor because he has the skill for clear explanation. Well done!
I hope Emerald keeps bringing you back to make videos. It's a pleasure to watch you explaining the way you work, I can see you are a very genuine person!
Thanks for the comment. Boss Man.
Amen He's a natural
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ive been logging most of life, i work for my dad on mostly our own land and for other folks in our small, northern VT community and i really enjoy all of the videos you make but especially the ones where your dad is wonderful enough to explain his thinking, thanks so much for sharing and i hope you are enjoying the warm weather
Thank you for the comment. Stay safe out there. Boss Man.
Very good video u explained so well
heres another vote for teri the boss man who married a hair stylist who is a boss woman or a maybe a mama grizzly bear. note to self. i think grizzly bear tools is based on manufacturing tools in china. and with the problems of unloading container ships near sea ports along the united states of america.
so the story of a slow boat to china may now be a slow boat from china.
relative to logs. from lumber capital log yard not sure. i am not even sure where i got the info. maybe a woodmizer news letter. on one of the ships taking american cut logs overseas to china or japan.
if i got it right there is a crew of individuals that follow the woodmiser motto from forest to final form. the crew take the raw materials american cut logs. and start sawing the logs from america in international waters. so they do not have to mark the lumber made in the usa but maybe we should update international law to mark country of origin. then i could demand that lumber be marked in bruce springsteen fashion with the words " born in the usa".
i suspect that lumber be made on a bandsaw mill but maybe a china built sawmill purchased through the global company alibaba they broker deals for china national manufactures. but i also found them brokering cows and horses from the great state that you live in song Pennsylvania polka.
at one time wood mizer had a division called bio mizer they built a heater that could turn green or wet sawdust into heat. not sure it still exists. but it could be a source of heat on those bone chilling winter days and using the heat to melt the snow instead of plowing and shoveling. the only fallback it need for electricity to power the blowers in the invention.
an other thought is making charcoal on a damp cold day or in the winter when a little outdoor heat is appreciated. making a fire on a hot day makes no sense to me as it heats the heat.
on a cool or cold date the heat melts the cold and either way it affects the environment. but doing at the correct time wastes not want not. and might make more sense. and are occasions when other constraints the make a suboptimal choice. like having to move the pile of wood out of the way. burning it then it makes sense.
teri you wrote or figured it out. that firewood heats you up many times. 1 when you cut the tree down 2 when you walk the tree and mark out potential products. and limb out the tree. 3 skid the cut dead tree to the landing and buck up products ... spitting delivering stacking. sweating bullets getting up and down the ice covered road. driving on a customers manicured lawn to the firewood piled nearer the house.
certain level of effencies come into affect. like splitting wood and loading it directly to a dump trailer and delivering to a custom when the road is passable
i like
from the usa east with the eastern sea board that touches the sea of the state of maine that blends into the pond we call the atlantic ocean. then there is the long island the is offshore from connecticut and part of the state of new york. in connecticut we have mystic seaport which is blest with history of the former whalers that we as humans respect as history and now we have green peace and tons of other non profits trying to prevent the japanese whaling vessels of harvesting whales and overfishing and catching and processing the remaining whales in the seas and oceans of the world for processing for food for the japanese people. i agree that whales are a food source for japan and other countries. i am just concerned that if we over catch and over eat the whales will disappear the face of the earth and go extinct like the dodo bird. i think that they went extinct or are limited to uncharted islands that have yet to be discovered. if properly managed mankind can prevent the extinction of the whale. i think a person named pat watson a conservationist activist and he was an activist with green peace and the save the whale project. many people support the save the whales. there is a vessel to annoy the japanese whalers and it was named after the popular game show host moderator the bob barker. and that might be a good name like my departed friend father figure mechanic. mr george begin affectionately called his only daughter racheal in jim croce fashion meaner then a junkyard dog because she was the rose between the thorns of 5 brothers. it was odd to me that racheal really had a pure breed pure marshmallow colored white malamute full grown puppy. the dog was named malamute similar to cartoon and movie. character dudley do right the backward facing local canadian north american county Mountie who named his horse "horse" .
Not knowing anything about logging, I am super impressed by dads knowledge of his craft and his dedication to conservation. Well done Capital Log family!
The Boss Man knows his stuff, be safe out there.
Your dad should write a tech book about this and be teaching it in college under forestry management! Enjoyed every minute! And I’d buy the book!
Thanks for the great comment. Boss Man.
@@KenBreon a series on how and why you log the way you do would be a great project. Going through the type of cut you make and why, how and why you lay the logs the way you do(direction/angle to the slope or track), the various equipment used(l know you have already gone though some of this before) and how you select which trees to cut and which to leave. I'm sure there is a lot of stuff you have learnt to take for granted over the years that many of us would find interesting.
@@Jake12220
Is there a shortage of such books?
@@jakebredthauer5100 l think you meant that question for larry, not me. There isn't really a shortage of books like that, but then there probably isn't a shortage of people buying them either. Might not reach the best sellers list, but woodworking and homeowner timber felling is probably growing in popularity so l suspect its a growing audience and a lot of the currently used books on the subject were probably written decades ago so due for an update given that even cutting down trees is an evolving industry.
Maybe Larry.
Can't remember.
I would love to watch more videos like this please. I’ve been cutting firewood on my families property for years now and I’m now starting to build my knowledge and resource base for logging living trees for value. I’ve got a lead on someone who can give me some in person lessons and tips which I’m hopeful about. This type of content is of incredible value to me. Thank you!
We can hear his passion for logging, and the entire science behind the zero waste. I find all of this very fascinating.😊
Your father not only showed great thoughtfulness and commitment to your way of harvesting a resource but respect for the landowners and your customers! Great video
Very humble family. I love your temperament and values.
Thanks for your commitment to "zero" waste. Growing up in Appalachia Ohio I have seen pulp wood loggers completely devastate forests. Thank you.
Love West Virginia and Virginia! It amazing that back in the day loggers basically clear cut the whole state of WV except two natural old growth stands. We definitely need more loggers and mills like The Boss and have more concern about conservation and "Zero Waste"! I am so with you in this!!!
This is one very clever man who is clearly passionate about what he does. I'd love to spend a day working in the woods with him.
I would be delighted. Boss Man.
@@KenBreon
Do you know him?
What about liability?
This is the key to making money in logging. I remember watching my uncle look at logs, stretch a tape measure and mark them. Takes a lot of knowledge and experience.
Many years ago I worked in the woods as a choker setter, taking logs out with a high tower. It was extremely dangerous. I had many near-miss possible death situations myself. Fatalities and injuries happened fairly often, even though we did everything we could to be safe. Every time I see the Boss on a video I am concerned for his safety. I can't imagine logging alone, miles from help with all the risks involved. And I echo all the previous comments. I am really captivated by this family, the work ethic, and the mutual respect. Terrific channel!
A very intelligent man explaining his thought process. Well done!
Nice to see DAD and hearing from his perspective 👌.....your working family is a great example 👍
Very cool. We need more people in or forests like you. You are a great father, teacher and you maintain the respect for and about our forests. Thank you from the bottom of my heart! Peace
You And he are so great in thinking. Don't think about today but about tomorrow.
Interesting, I didn't know that you divide a tree so precisely into pieces for what you want and can use it for. It makes sense to me that a certain piece of the tree that makes too few or no good planks would be better classified as firewood. It's a piece of hard work to get such a tree out of the forest unharmed without causing much damage. I know that because I pulled and installed escalators in shopping malls and train stations for a while. That was hard work. I like the job of a woodworker - I've already learned a lot from you guys on TH-cam.
This fellow makes me proud to be American. We need so many more like him.
Do you think he is proud?
very informative. I thought I understood the grading and cutting of logs, but this took the complexity of reducing waste and maximize the use of timber to another level.
Sir, you are a most interesting teacher and your knowledge of logging is impressive. You care about the land and the trees. I am impressed with your attitude about having a goal of zero waste.
Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.
For the first time in my life I appreciate what you were doing I did not realize the strategy of looking at a log and seeing what you can get out of it truly amazing . God bless you.🇨🇦🙏❤️😇✝️
Always nice to see your Dad on here. He seems to be getting more comfortable in front of the camera
Great job sir! Running skidders on any slope is dangerous. The slopes you work on, WOW! I have seen skidders slip and roll, that was on small hills in northern MN. I have had friends die in the woods due to "accidents". It's a VERY dangerous job. Most folks don't even think about that. I drove a 648 turbo John Deer graphed skidder. Man it was fun! Mostly on flat ground or very small hills. Be safe! Great video! Hats off to you, you're family and you're operation 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
One of the most common causes of fatal tractor accidents here in Australia is from farmers dragging felled trees. Granted tractors are far more prone to overturn than a skidder, but having worked on slopes like that lm just happy he seems to know what he's doing as your right, it's an incredibly dangerous job.
@@Jake12220 Yep, I've seen tractors rear up when dragging trees - either on commencing the drag, or hitting something in the ground or digging in while dragging. Scary experience, and tractors don't say "sorry" when they land on you.
I don't comment often, but I feel the need. First as always, your videos are amoung my favorites. Second, Dad, once again hits it out of the park. I really enjoyed listening to dad discuss the reality of working the logs, the landing, and satisfying the landowner. I also enjoyed the explanation of how the logs will be cut and why. Thank you for providing your videos. mrg
Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.
Awesome informative. Great for America having such a Family doing what y’all are doing. Thanks and God Bless!
Thank you for clarifying the "metal in the wood" conundrum.
The more I watch this channel
the more I appreciate the hard work you ladies and gentlemen
endure to create our joists and house frames, etc.
that most people take for granted.
Thank you again. Peace on eartth.
As a forester, my first 10 years in the industry I was heavily involved in cruising and scaling of the timber. I later moved on to inventory and large scale forest measurements. Very cool to see this detailed discussion on the usability and methodology used by your business. Thanks.
Thank you for the comment. Boss Man.
Fascinating insight! Your critical thinking skills are off the charts. No whack and hack going on here. Love the content.
15:07 "They need to serve a purpose in the full cycle of life." Well said, Sir. Much respect for your integrity.
I am very impressed with how you took the time to explain how you book logs in logs and how you determine what they're to be used for and the process of getting it out of the woods I've never done it for a living but I've lived around it my whole life.I believe you are exactly the type of woodsman we need thank you. We had September removed from our property and property and they took the time to explain how they were gonna do it and why and that's why we hired them. We got a little less money out of they're process but we were left with a beautiful stand of trees That will yield another valuable cut in the future
That is one smart man, I never realized how much logistics there was to wood, not hard to see where the 'kids' get it. If I were a landowner, I would have no hesitation having this man work it. What a great family.......Mike
Em is definitely Boss mans daughter. u both have a gift of speech, presentation and are photogenic. Great channel, very educational.
greetings from TX. I am very impressed to see (in any craft) the wisdom of experience, best practices, efficiency and family unity to a greater purpose. Boss, when you are an old man, you will have many well-used days to be happy about, and I bet your kids are all amazing individuals because of your good influence in their lives. I wouldn't one bit wish to distract you from the life you live and the business you run, but you are the kind of person I'd be glad to call friend, and if I was ever in your neighborhood, I'd buy dinner for your whole family. Please indulge Emerald in her efforts with this channel, it's really a great contribution to a better understanding of your business.
Great instruction from the Boss ,,thanks for the explanation,,you may not feel it but you are very natural on camera
I appreciate you taking the time to do videos and I appreciate you bringing up being careful when skidding the trees out, the job I am cutting now 95% of the trees were stumped or damaged when logged 30+ years ago. On 100 acres that is an incredible loss in board footage in this mostly hard maple stand. In nature when a plant or animal comes to its final rest whether man removes all, part, or none, nature wastes no parts. The whole tree and or its remaining parts provide food and shelter for many living creatures, as it rots away it breaks down into compost benefitting the other plants and trees in the forest. Without getting deep into the life cycle of the forest I wanted to mention this so that those watching this video that do not realize beef comes from cattle, eggs from chickens, and that trees are a renewable natural resource don't misunderstand that a renewable natural resource left to rot in the woods is never wasted by nature it is in man's mind what he leaves behind that might benifit him is waste.
I like hearing your Dad's thought process with regards to his logging operation and his work ethic. Thanks!
Very interesting. I didn't realize a single tree could yield so many uses within the industry, ie veneer, saw logs, decorative craft wood, firewood, and even mulch or pulpwood, all withing a single tree. You're very resourceful and respectful of the harvest.
It is awesome that we have one family of loggers out there showing they can make money and a living doing what they do, BUT they have a great concern for conservation!
I love this, to learn and Understand what the thinking is on all of this. I hope to see more of this. Also like to see one on the basic tree Identification tree identification. If there is such a thing it's basic trees Identification.
Em wants to do a video on tree identification. Boss Man.
Good job Emerald for getting the boss to explain logging and waste. It all made sense to me and boy am i math challenged!! watching you saw on your mill always amazes me how you analyze the cuts Thanks Ken for the informative video!
Great video. I'm never going to be a logger or operate a mill but my father did. I find the information you provide an insight into a world I otherwise wouldn't have any exposure to. Your thoughtfulness and respect for natural recourses is inspiring. Thank you!
I really am soooo impressed by your family! You work ethic , your respect for the environment, running your business with an honor system, just love how your entire family just comes together! Its very refreshing to see in these crazy times! It gives one hope America is not dead! Thank you again for the education in what you are doing!
Thank you! Yeah. If everyone tries to save a little, in the forest, at the mill, at the drawing board (computer) , and at the house site, we'd all be way ahead. For example, they say architects should train as carpenters. They should also listen to loggers. "We should know where it comes from."
Well Em, as usual, I really enjoy hearing from your dad. I have a home owner mill, and live in logging country in central BC. Sure get jealous about some of those sweet hardwoods I see on your channel. I get some 24 inch Birch, but that's as close to hardwood as we get up here. I do enjoy your channel, thanks for the vids.
Thanks Jim for the comment. Enjoy your weekend. Boss Man.
need more people like this. great stewards of resources and knowledge.
This video is absolute gold! Amazing info for someone about to mill building material and firewood off of a new property
You sir and your Wife I am sure are very proud of your amazing family. It would be nice if people were to show your videos in middle to high school grades to show how a family run business works and how sincere and specific and most of all respectful and passionate about your work that Lumber Capitol Log Yard works towards.
Equipment is important but not as much as the person using it. YOU are a great teacher both for the business of logging and Earth conservation. As a father, we see your teaching and examples in your family values . The tree is dead but you treat it as alive and a giving object till the sawdust is gone. Thank you my friend. Enjoy life and family.
I greatly appreciate your comment. Thank you. Boss Man.
He doesn't think of the tree as being alive. He thinks you are crazy.
Man I love this guy!I wish more loggers had this mentally.
Great explanation,you've obviously put much thought into all facets of your operation. We live on our family woodlot in New Brunswick , Canada which provides heat for our home and building material from the logs we mill. We too work hard to minimize any waste! Thanks!
Chipping operations are crappy for the forest anyways. Everyone wants every branch to disappear but the reality is that those tops re seed and biodegrade as a time released fertilizer. If the cutter drives over the tops with his skidder and chains it’ll mush it down pretty good then nature does the rest. The tops also hold down the bushes and stems from all coming in too fast and being a stagnant growth.
Chipping would be a good use for the larger branches and logs or offcuts that couldn't be used for anything else. Totally agree with leaving the smaller branches though, especially in such a wet area they will quickly biodegrade and add to the soil structure.
I don't know. I don't totally agree. I'm in Ohio and won't name loggers or logging companies but I have seen so many ruin good woods, just like the Boss said. In fact, we get half of our wood from following these guys around... saw-able logs they leave behind, firewood, and some smaller stuff to chip make mulch and even chipped down even more to make wood pellets. I'm not sure where you're located at but here in Ohio and some parts of WV where we follow these loggers around, they drag multiflora rose all over and with it being invasive, it end up choking out most other plants and even remaining trees! Also consider out west where your concept leads to a ton of kindling that only future fuels wild fires. However, after the fires, and some time.... with no remaining tops left laying around, everything comes back more lush.
Unlike Ken, they don't care if the trees/logs damage other trees or the landscape in their take! What we don't take, is chipped up with forestry mulchers and we build a number of dome type piles for wildlife to use. We also make sure fill in ruts left by these loggers. We also address erosion issues left by these loggers. Then we give it back to Mother Nature and aside from the obviously skidder roads, it is like no one was even in there harvesting. The land owners are happy and have clean useable woods to hunt and use.
If you seen how many of these woods and properties were left, if you were a logger going in for a future harvest, you would be cussing! I'm sure you would just go ripping and tearing with a dozer to push all of this remaining debris out of your way to get your logs. This is where further damage is done due to costs and profit margins Ken is talking about. This stuff doesn't biodegrade over night! The majority of the land owners would not allow future harvests if you saw how some of these are left! I don't blame them!
Sounds like you are more for profits than conservation , screw the next guy! You got your take and it will biodegrade. with time... many years? Sound like the guys we follow around. and that is the story the tell the property owners. Yet it's funny I can make money following them around and the properties are left in a better condition than they started with.
@@danagrey3534 you have to take into account the local weather conditions and the species of trees. Im in northern Australia, some of the trees on my property would take hundreds of years to break down if left to rot. Indeed a 9 inch diameter log of some of my ironbark(many trees are 4+ feet wide) is government rated to last over 100 years untreated in/on the ground and the rosewood that grows out west never seems to degrade, certainly not within human lifespans. The trees in Pennsylvania on the other hand should break down pretty quickly, its a wet area, largely pine and what l would consider pretty soft hardwoods. They get winter freeze and hot summers, it's a perfect environment for them to biodegrade pretty quickly.
@@Jake12220 I respect what you're saying and I cannot even remotely comment on timber practices in northern Austrialia. However, I am in neighboring Ohio to them.... 5 hrs. and 15 mins or 330 miles (531 KM) west of them. So we get a lot of the same weather conditions. Just less mountainy here than in PA.
One reason I love this channel is I try to be more like Ken (The Boss) everyday and today I totally failed! Every other word that came out of my mouth was a cuss word! The reason is almost 3 years ago, said logging company came in to this property to take a harvest. The property owner has 33 acres that the harvest was taken from. They were paid $138,000 for the take which I know them there was some really nice hardwood tress in there. So I got called to come grade the skidder paths and was on our grader. I didn't make it the lenght of the grader before I was pulling up logs 4 inches to 16" left from tops that they tried to bury and cover up, which caused ponding and erosion for how the surface water runs across the property. I used to deer hunt this propert as a teen. So we brought in my Cat D3B and Cart D4C with root rakes, a Bobcat T770 with a grapple, Bobcat T770 with a Fecon Foresty mulcher, and our Bobcat 337 with a bucket / thumb and grapple... to once again clean up a mess! You couldn't even drive an atv or side-by side through here and it used to be a damn nice woods!
Now here is the thing Matt. I know the land owners and have known them for years! They wanted the tops for firewood and like what I do, grind up anything to small and unsuable for mulch. They pulled a few tops out into one of the pastures and they got a couple dumptruck loads of firewood logs... 4 feet to about 8 feet in lenght. Just trying to grade the old skidder paths pulled up all of what ADATWOOD said just run it over with the skidder and push it into the ground and let it biodegrade! Clean up is not the logger's problem! In this case it was and was in the contract! Now they are paying us about $45,000 to clean up the mess! Mulcher heads are not cheap to run! So much good firewood was ruined! You can't run a saw through any of it without ruining a chain in seconds. I'm not running the foresty mulch head over it and ruining the very expense teeth on it. So that leaves pushing it into piles and and burning (wasting it) or run it through our Rayco 1754-240 horizontal grinder or Bandit Intimidator 18XP track chipper. Also have a Rotochopper MP 2 but its not suited for this type application. A lot of times what is chipped onto piles is hauled back to out yard to make compost . Here were are spreading and leaving it for erosion control and breakdown quicker for plant food.
Said loggers had a track chipper and obviously they didn't use it! So check out V-BELT and SON TH-cam Channel (th-cam.com/users/VBELTandSON) We are doing a cross between them and Lumber Capital Log Yard. However, check out LetsDig18 (Chris) (th-cam.com/users/letsdig18videos) and just watch how much good wood and mulch is merely stock piled and burned! It's actaully because of Chris that I got started doing what I do here in Ohio. I have commented on Chris' vidoes many times I should move my operation to South Carolina and follow him around! The 30 acre yard we have used to be an old farm fertilizer plant with a rail spur. I have checked prices and I could almost chip what he burns, put in rail cars, ship it up the east coast, make compost and ship it back down south, which they have a lot of red clay like in Australia. I could almost even load useable log onto rail cars, ship north and process it into firewood and ship it back south. Anyone thinks I'm full of it, read... www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-23/most-grass-fed-beef-labeled-product-of-u-s-a-is-imported Same thing!
Now we do have a Cord King CS 20-40 firewood processor similar to LCLY's Bell. Both the Cord King and Bell are Canadian made. Also have an Wood Mizer LT 15 which I want to upgrade to an LT70. The only diffference between the above channels and what we do is that we have the U.S. versions (SMI - th-cam.com/users/thescreenmachine) of the Red Rhino (th-cam.com/users/Rhinocrushers) compact track jaw crusher and compact track 3-way screener, which we also process concrete, asphalt and various soils like clays and topsoil.
Like Ken aka The Boss, Emerald, Jade and the whole family, at Lubmer Capital Log Yard, our goal is "Zero Waste". Now as for this property owner. a good $45,000 is coming out of their $138,000 from their timber harvest and I promise you, as long a they own the ground, they won't let another logger come in and take a harvest which they had planned on. That hurts good loggers like The Boss who are trying to do the right thing. My point is I would go broke following Ken around. Again, said logger were contracted to keep the tops for firewood and restore the parcel to a similar condition as when they started... no skidder ruts, no buried materials and stumps, on erosion and make sure they were not spreding invasion plants like our multiflora rose. Other than the skidder trails/roads, most of these projects we clean up, you can't even walk through them! Time and time again the land owners are not happy with the end results. Yet I have yet to see any Lumber Capital videos of rutted messy eroded landings or skidder roads! I did infact see a video of Em, her brother and the Boss up on the hill and they had to quit and Ken said they had to take the dozer and dress up the logging roads befor they left. My point is I was unsure if my business was even worth it. Then Lumber Capital started this channel and look at how it has grown and despite we do not actual harvest timber, there is a lot of similarities, value and principles.
I'm just thanklfully for all of the JDATWOODs out here and their timber harvasting practices that keeps us in business and slowly growing! f you are clear cutting I could see that. Also using firewood logs or less valuable logs in muddy areas to support skidders or dozers. But when you are doing a selective harvest , damaging other tress, and "just run the skidder over the tops asnd mash them into the ground and let Mother Nature do the rest", and leave skidder and dozer ruts and cause eroison issues, yes I have a problem with that! Its bad conservation for mere profits! You don't have to destory a woods for a timber harvest! Let me be clear, your assumption of "The trees in Pennsylvania on the other hand should break down pretty quickly, its a wet area, largely pine and what l would consider pretty soft hardwoods. They get winter freeze and hot summers, it's a perfect environment for them to biodegrade pretty quickly." is wrong! In 3 years these tops have hardly biodegraded and its a costly wastes of resources! I'm talking even braches the size of your forearm. In composting, that is a different story! We turn the piles to oxygenate them, monitor temps, and water to create the best envionment for our hungry microb workforce! Unlike Ken and me, these guys leave good sized firewood logs. As you can see, I created a business following them around! Mulching allows for quicker and better plant food, gives space to allow other trees to grow, while grading to prevent erosion which the mulch is also good for, small brush piles are left for wildlife habitat, reduces kindling for wild fire pervention (see V-Belt and Son vidoes) and useable resources are not wasted!
We simply need more loggers like Ken! Sorry for the rant, but if you saw this woods 3+ years ago compare to today you would understand meposition. Most of the properties we clean up, I seriously doubt if they would allow any future harvests! We done one last week where they felled the tress and the tops landing in the edge of the farmer's corn field. So yes, perfect weather in on the east coast to biodegrade! Just mash them into the ground and hope the combine head doesn't pick them up! That is the answer... just mash in in the ground or leave it! Who cares... it will biodegrade by tomorrow!
@@danagrey3534 wow, thanks for the reply. In my area of the world, any common pine wouldn't last long at all on the ground, the termites and other insects would mulch it within a couple of years. I had expected the decay to be even faster given the wet and variable climate in PA. In regards to logs not breaking down when they are pushed into the mud or burried, thats the case anywhere, the low oxygen environment severely slows the decomposition rate.
I do get your point about the horrible way properties like that are sometimes treated, but it seems like the problem was specifically with the loggers who came in with the aim of taking the easiest money and not bothering to finish the job. Its a terrible business model for the loggers, apart from burning bridges and never being able to return to the property, they aren't getting full value out of the contract. I'm surprised the landowners don't send the cleanup bill to the logging company. In Australia logging tends to be done differently, we don't do anywhere near as much private land logging anymore, in part due to the ridiculous amount of regulations we live under. But we do have a lot of mining activity where farmers allow mining companies to explore. The damage is often similar to logging trails as they have to bring in heavy equipment for drilling. But there is always a contract, the landholder is compensated for any damage done, including the value of trees, the exploration company are then required to return the land to its previous state or pay for the damage. This includes replanting trees and or grasses, removing every last bit if rubbish and returning the land to as close to its natural state as possible. If they fail to do so its fairly easy for landholders to have someone else fix it at the companies expense due to a lands court and bonds being held by the government.
My point to all of this is that in Australia our legal system wouldn't allow such poor logging practises to happen, landholders would simply bill them for the cost of the land reclamation. I'm surprised that America doesn't have a similar system?
Is there even a clear set of guidelines that loggers are meant to adhere to over there? We have huge amounts of regulations for logging that state among other things what can or can't be left, what to do with waste and an emphasis on reducing collateral damage or environmental impacts. Due to the current regulations most private land logging tend to be done by the landholder themselves, like myself, but like the regular industry the aim is always to get the logs out with the least environmental (or aesthetic) impact.
How we log in Australia changes a lot depending on the environment, the species and the area. We clear cut pine plantations, but hardwood is almost always selectively cut. There was a foreign owned paper mill that started clear cutting hardwood in Tasmania, they didn't last long before being shut down. Australians are rather protective of our forests and bushland and don't put up with such poor land management practices. The hardwood industry has always had a focus on doing the least damage possible, to the extent that using light removable rail instead of installing roads was done for generations. These days winching out logs is common, including on my own property where l primarily use an electric winch and gravity to get them to a fire trail. Sadly the legislation in my state is so strick that its even difficult to cut trees that were specifically planted to be harvested later, but luckily l can still harvest for my own use, including for my business (thats the way lm going to choose to interpret the regulations at any rate). On my own property what l leave wont be much. I will leave hollow logs and branches for wildlife, but anything suitable for firewood l cut and send to the veterans retreat at the end of the road.
Awesome details to consider. Thank you for explaining the sections of the tree.
Wow! What a work ethic. I wish my loggers had been so conscientious.
Nice seeing cable skidders still out there. When I was first logging in the Sierra Nevada's in the early 1980s only the very biggest outfits were sporting the new grapple skidders. The grapple skidders really changed logging. For one, they did away with choker setters. The small, family run outfits, like the one I worked for, we set our own chokers, but the larger outfits had a choker setter for every skidder.
Fun fact: The term "skid row" comes from the longer version, "Skidder's Row." It was the street, usually on the outskirts of town where the skidders (they used mules, oxen and steam donkeys back then) would go when they got paid. Definitely the seedier part of towns. It was basically brothels, bars/saloons, hotels and bath houses.
Thanks. It’s always appreciated reading a comment from people with old school hard knocks, knowledge.
I was a Forester/Timber Crew in the Eastern Sierra Nevadas (Mammoth Lakes/Mono Lake) during the 90’s. Interestingly, the sawlogs dropped over there were often done in the winter. The skidding was done over snow to reduce impact on the soil and lower vegetation layers. Was very fun overseeing the logging operations via snowmobiles.
Well we got a tree farmer with a cable on it and we love it if it wasn't for that I don't know where we would be
I’d love to spend a month as an apprentice under you guys
Thanks for the history lesson. Love it. Boss Man.
Your explanation was so good even I understood it. Your approach to logging is something that should be taught .
you are inspiring, great respect for the trees an all the product you get with
After watching the bloopers, you guy are quite excellent. I love your content 👍👍👍👍🎉
People thinking about going into any business should listen closely . I’ve been a home builder for 40 years and in any business no matter what it is it’s competitive and every move better count or you will not be in business very long.
Loved it when you said you rehitched that tree 3 times, I questioned if that extra length bumped more trees on the skid out.
Such an interesting video boss, I always have been interested in trying to Identify trees and thanks for explaining the species of wood.
Very good description of your business. I grew up in Western Oregon where timber harvesting has been the main industry. I felled my first Douglas fir when I was 10 years old. I love the smell of fresh cut timber. Good on you for trying to be "no waist".
Great job Boss!
I like the boss videos the best . Clear and precise explanations and walking us through your job . We'll done boss dad.
Great content! Having a history in small logging, I very much appreciate the emphasis on not damaging the the trees left and also leaving a good stand. I'm in the South and the prevailing method is clear cut for the most profit. Makes me sick every time I witness it. Me and my dad always left the woods with a good stand of timber left and remaining trees not butchered. Very hard for the small guy to make it now so we had to leave the business that I truly enjoyed.
Much respect. I rehab historical houses and buildings. You think like I do and explain like I do because the normal person doesn't understand how much brain work it takes to make sure that you don't waist materials. With my historical restorations I have to figure out every little measurement so that I don't waist reclaimed materials from the original house and be able to use every little bit back in the house. You need to do more of these videos. I know that you don't like to be in front of the camera but you're good at it and you have a lot to teach people about your trade. Keep it up
The tops don't go to complete waste. Wildlife uses it as cover and it all decomposes to fertilize old and new growth. It's awesome you take as much wood as you can for biomass. Wood is such a great heat source in the winter.
I hope someone there told the BOSS he done a great job 🌟🌟🌟🌟👍 and am looking forward to more with him
Awesome video. You gals are really coming into your own here on TH-cam. Keep up the great work and tell the boss he does a great job explaining his methods so stop worrying about looking into the camera. Lol
Thanks Boss Man, I really enjoyed your presentation and support your policy of minimizing waste. If I could suggest a topic for a future video, I would be very interested to hear you dive deeper into the value of different species and how to recognize a valuable log by its external appearance to the extent that's possible. I live in Western PA
That would be okay
for people in his area.
Fascinating video on what you do and your thought process on processing the trees.
Now that is a skidder! I enjoy watching your channel, your narrative, your stories, your work ethic. Stay safe always!
No logger here , just follow loggers around for firewood . You are spot on about waste , taken waste to the mill myself . So glad you are you !
What a great video. As a homeowner Sawyer and learning everything I can to make the most of my logs on my property I thank you so much for this video. I am working with pine and fir trees but all I fo still applies. I am going to have to go look up what a veneer log means. Great job Dad!
Awesome video , I’m very impressed. I’ve learned so much from y’all’s videos. Thank y’all for your conservation efforts 👍🏼🇺🇸🙏
Love the Boss man so informative
17 minutes is a giant plus on video time. I am glad your father has gotten into the videos I’m sure you and he will do great, not to mention the rest of the family. And I’m seeing commercials already. You’re growing fast it’ll be nice to see what’s coming up
Really liking the boss. , Would love to see more videos with the boss.
I logged for 30 years in nw pa , started with cable skidders and chain saws ,grew to feller bunchers ,grapple skidders , delimers ,sold out in 2008. Logging is a very cut throat industry glad to be out of it . You have a beautiful family thanks for sharing !
Excellent vlog! I live in western Canada in the Purcell Mountains (just left of the Rockies ... lol) above Idaho. Lumber is our No 1 commodity so your concepts are not new for most of us but I bet most others will find them very interesting. Please give Emerald and Jade a big high five from me for a job well done.
Sure will. Boss Man.
I learned so much! Thank you for the video Boss Man. We are getting our LT40 on Sunday!
What an exciting day. Have Fun. Boss Man.
exceptional logger with an exceptional family !!
Very Good information. As a former home builder/remodeler & furniture craftsman; I am embarrassed to say I never knew timber technology. Thanks Boss Man. And Emerald & family. GOD BLESS.
Super informative. I just cut in the woods for home heating. But it’s very cool to see how the pros do it.
Thank you! I always learn a lot when I watch your channel. My Grandfather would have liked you. His guys would always say that they could build a house and the waste would not fill a wheelbarrow. Of course those were the days of 1x8 sheathing and plaster. I love the old cable skidder, Very important to your low impact forwarding. Be safe.
This was a really informative video. Thanks for posting!
I came from the Hills of Virginia,,ran in the woods many years, always an awe inspiring experience in my life, Truly a precious gift God gave us in many ways 😎 Love this channel and learn something new every episode,,so interesting,,😎 Scotty in Alabama.
As a Scandinavian logger, I find this "whole-tree-method" really interesting but also quite inefficient (I don't mean this as an offence).
In stead of skidders we use forwarders with cranes meaning that we can buck the tree into desired lengths, where it lands in the woods, so that we never have to cut dirty logs that's been dragged across the soil.
Another benefit from this is, that the leftover canopies can easily driven to the log site as well and be utilized for woodchips. I know that you mentioned in this video that it would be impossible to get a woodchipper up to the site, but the ones that are commonly used here in Scandinavia takes up less space that a skidder or a log truck - so if they can get there, so can a woodchipper.
This method ensures that we probably have less than 1% waste even in hardwood logging because the entire tree is used. Only reason I can think of as to why this isn't a possibility would be because of the slopes maybe being too steep for a forwarder to operate.
Very timely and much appreciated. My neighbor just cleared 4 acres of poplar and oak and is letting me grab the logs. All are tree length and in a pile. If I buck and haul them I can have the wood...
Was a logger and never liked to see the woods left a big mess with everything destroyed .
Need more logger / sawmillers like you .
That was a great informative video about lots of diff aspects of the Timber industry! Boss mans a great asset to have around. Id love to ask him some questions on vaneer logs
Why not inquire of the buyer?
I love your no waste policy. Thats what we strive for here. We actually use the last bit of the log to grow and sell mushrooms
You can't do that with every log. But it's nice to get a nother revenue stream for something that would otherwise be wasted
Have you thought about a Bob tail truck, and a pull along chipper, it's typically seventeen to twenty one feet but short enough, and having the chipper on its own trailer. Dismounting and reattaching would be possible. Food for thought. Have a blessed day amen.
Awesome job and keeping the waste down to a minimum also it's good to leave some small pieces and branches in the forest to enrich the soil .
Sir Thank You for sharing your wisdom and knowledge. I can appreciate your knowledge. Thanks Again!!!!!!!
What a great approach Boss Man. I believe it's wrong to let a tree rot without using it for a good purpose. Growing a tree is a beautiful thing and I believe we have more forests than ever due to responsibly managing them. Congratulations Boss on a great family
I was surprised by a few things you explained. We always worked from the butt up to get the highest yield to value. Firewood of course having the lowest value. I also thought it odd that the veneer Mills did not want everything in 8 foot multiples.
I was also shocked that you could use birch for railroad ties as it rots so fast.
Have you ever considered using a logging arch to keep the logs off the road?
At least you use these trees to the very best of your knowledge very impressive to have a mind set from beginning to end. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I can tell that you have a lot of years experience in the woods just by the way you talk about the work, I worked for years cutting firewood pre-commercial thinning with a 1944 tractor and a farmi winch. When a big twitch is 1/3 of a cord you darn well better be efficient if you’re gonna make any money at it and I can tell you I barely made any money at it😆😆😆❤️
Absolutely fascinating. Great attitude towards life and work.