Just in case you guys feel like not having an East Coast bias, you could start with the NFC West so you don't have to cram coverage of those teams in the end of every podcast.
Tomlin is the only coach in the afc north without a franchise QB since Ben retired and he still is able to beat on the teams in the north! 😊 Mike T is definitely the #1 coach in that division...and currently he has an 8 game win streak against Harbaugh's ravens 👍
Ryan’s is 1 and Zac Taylor is 4?! Taylor took over the worst team in the league and then went to the Super Bowl and then the very next year the afc title game. Both years they had at least 3 offensive lineman out in the playoffs.
Were they the worst team because they actually just sucked or, were they the worst team because they had just been mismanaged? The Buccaneers sucked before Brady showed up but, it wasn’t from a lack of quality throughout the roster. It was just mismanaged and bad QB play.
The first year Taylor was there they completely remade the defense through free agency. Brought in Hendrickson, von bell, Awuzie, bj hill in a trade, First draft with Taylor they took Burrow, Higgins, Logan Wilson. Next years draft got chase and cam Taylor Britt
C'mon man...Taylor also had the number 1 overall pick one year and a top ten pick the next to get Burrow and Jamar Chase....also the Bengals' owner finally stopped being cheap and spent some of the 80mil 😂 that he was sitting on...Zac Taylor did nothing but be a good OC....chill with the hyperbole on Taylor's "rise" 😂
The disrespect to the Raiders on every take is ridiculous. How can Harbaugh who has a awful roster ahead of Antonio Pierce who has a winning record in his first season?
He is still a good coach, though. The guy never has had a losing season, and with his offenses being so bad and predictable the past few years, that is saying a lot. Is he belicheck? No, but he is still a good coach and a good motivator
They should do the whole league and start from the bottom. Siriani is the absolute worst (has ZERO qualifications) followed by Saleh. On the opposite end, Andy Reid is number 1.
Pretty Reasonable tbh. Campbell started with the worst roster in the NFL and made it to the NFC championship in 3 years. Lafleur inherited a solid roster with an MVP QB and made it to the exact same place Campbell did.
LaFleur inherited a consistent team with one of the best QBs of all time, MCDC was given a bottom 3 team with Jared Goff. Both are good but Detroit is a historically awful franchise that turned around completely, the Packers are a good organization and made a smart hire that revitalized the team, but are always good.
Packers have been solidly consistent, MCDC took what was arguably the worst team in the league in the Lions and turned them into Super Bowl contenders in 3 years. The Lions improved under Campbell every year so far - you can't say the same for LaFleur
Shanahan is a great coach with an amazing team. McVay is an amazing coach with a great team. I love the Rams but if McVay had all the weapons that the 9ers do, he'd probably have 2 or 3 rings by now.
@@55meds He had all those weapons. Todd Gurley - CMC Everett/Higbee - Kittle Kupp-Woods-Cooks/ Deebo-Aiyuk Whitworth-Trent Williams McVay failed to win a SB with weapons that are very comparable to the Niners. And he didn’t win until he got a QB. He also had an equally comparable defense probably even better defensive personnel. His front 4 was better than what the Niners have now. Edge at linebacker for the 49ers. But a better secondary for the Rams. I imagine when Shanahan gets a QB of Staffords caliber he will win a SB. Whether Purdy is that guy is hard to tell. This will be his second full season. Too early for that talk.
Yes but, he did what Kyle has failed continually do 😂 Shanahan would tell you he’d trade that record against McVay and whomever else to have a championship 🤷🏻♂️
Just like people take C.J. Stroud take over Jordan Love, even though Love had better stats, people underrate and disrespect Matt LaFluer the same way. Better resume than Campbell. Lower ranking. It's very frustrating, as a Packers fan. I'll admit it. Sigh.
@@joshbeezley4158 The Lions were practically an expansion team in 2021. And LeFluke has obviously been a HC longer, and inherited A-A-Ron and a talented roster. I have a STRONG feeling the career records will start to even out, and MCDC will continue to OWN LeFluke 🤫😏🙂
Sean Payton lost to Josh McDaniels then Antonio pierce whooped them week 18 😂😂 but I guess the broncos need one thing good about them even though he’s not good😂
No one is worse than Siriani in the entire league, nevermind the division. The fact that they stripped him of all his power and brought in 2 top coordinators to justify his hiring in the first place says it all.
Dumb take on NFC north giving coaches same talent then it’s Kevin O’Connell. Same could be said giving Sean Payton Patrick Mahomes then he’s number one in their division.
@@antmas3507He has been a large part of building that team from the ground up. Changing the culture of a team is one of the hardest things for a coach to do
Shanahan deserves to be #1 rn in the division, he’s taken his team to 4 nfc championships and 2 SBs. I just wish they would have expanded on AZ and Sea cause the NFC west is going to be loaded once again.
@@seanwjones07 Shanahan has been unable to win it all, though - and that's with a stacked team. McVay pulled off the win in Stafford's first year with the team and with a safety brought back after two years in retirement. that's pulling it off against the odds, compared to the guy that couldn't do it with a stacked team.
The disrepsect to Matt Lafleur is hilarious. That job he did last year with the packers makes him the best in the division. The Lions are loaded, especially offensively.
@@chedbeckford8067 exactly. Everyone said MLF was carried by Rodgers when he had multiple 13 win seasons now he has a bunch of rookies and a first year starting qb and takes them to the playoffs with all the injuries and miscues. Stomps on Dallas and had the Niners beat at home. Dan Campbell is the reason for the Lions success but as well as his terrible decisions have been their downfall. One good season from Campbell and the Lions and everyone thinks the Lions are gonna be a wagon from here on out. Can’t see it
Penei Sewell, St Brown, Gibbs, Williams…all drafted with Dan Campbell as the head coach. Maybe he just knows how to develop players too. He is also 4-2 against Lafleur, 3-1 as an underdog. The Packers team was not much different last year than the year before. The only obvious difference was Love for Rodgers, which on the surface seems big, but then you dig just a little bit, and you see that Rodgers was a bottom 8 starting QB the last season in GB. Love wasn’t replacing an MVP. He was replacing a guy who was not good. The comeback GB had at the end of ‘22 winning 4 in a row before Detroit bounced them week 18 had nothing to do with the play of Rodgers. So where you see some magical performance by Lafleur, I see a team that was 1 game better than the year before with a lot of the same roster and better QB play.
John Harbaugh is the most overrated coach in the NFL. no one has does less with more than him. Give Andy Reid that roster or Tomlin that roster and the Ravens win a SB. Harbaugh is overrated
I live in SF and Harbaugh had a lot of issues with relationships. It started out one way and ended differently. He was effective and made tough calls that worked out. As a guy who used to watch him play qb i’d like to see a less quirky/more wise Jim have success.
@@dottade6797 Nah bro 😂 Texans Lost their #pick took CJ the Underdog with #2 trade up for Will Anderson the terminator at #3 then we did what we did all season had CJ in MVP race took both rookie classes and Demeco was robbed for coach of the year to the team we blowout of the playoffs year 1 of the rebuild when everyone thought we'd be equally as bad or worse than the Panthers and Pats 😂 nobody was ready for us and their still not were gonna do what the Bengals couldn't
@@MordecaiFromRegularShow lol lil homie you geeked up next season won’t be that great for yall just wait on it definitely WONT MAKE A SUPER BOWL YEAR 2 😂😂🤡
@@MordecaiFromRegularShow YALL had a last place schedule with 0 expectations next season will not be that smooth and besides the Browns Texans wasn’t world beaters please calm down last game played was TERRIBLE
Put 2-time MVP Lamar Jackson on the Steelers and watch them win the SB this year with ease....Harbaugh is still playing around😂 one and done just like the Steelers were with Pickett and Company...and he has Lamar Jackson?? Naw, give me Mike T over John Harbaugh, please. 😂😊
I'm sorry, but having campbell over lafleur is insane. Yes, dan campbell is a good coach, but I want to see him with different coordinators; how do his teams respond then? Without ben johnson, is his offense still as good? Lafleur lost Rodgers and Hackett and the offense didnt really slow down. What pushes Lafleur over the edge for me is the developmental job lafleur has done with managing and developing such young team and coaching them into great players so fast.
The Lions core players, except Goff & Anzolone, are very young as well. Last I checked Lions players dominate the top under 25 players lists. MCDC is a great developer of players. Goff & Anzolone have resurrected their careers.
Bucky has watched no Cardinals film, the continuous Cardinals disrespect is out of line. How do you put a coach that hasn't even coached a game yet ahead of Gannon who outperformed expectations last year with Kyler out for half the year.
Mike Mccarthy is the mist overrated coach of the last 20 years probably. Doc Rivers of the NFL. ARod would have atleast 1 more ring if Mccarthy wasn't the coach
Thank you for being smart and having McVay over Shanahan
LA RAMS BABY 🤘🤑🤘
Just in case you guys feel like not having an East Coast bias, you could start with the NFC West so you don't have to cram coverage of those teams in the end of every podcast.
I wish I could like this comment more than once. It’s pretty frustrating for West Coast fans, for sure
The disrespect for LaFluer is just crazy.
💥💙 Dan is the Man here in Detroit. Him and Brad Holmes and what Shelias done it’s all good for Detroit Rock City Lions 💥💙
Good vid always making good vids for us ngl thx nfl
Tomlin is the only coach in the afc north without a franchise QB since Ben retired and he still is able to beat on the teams in the north! 😊 Mike T is definitely the #1 coach in that division...and currently he has an 8 game win streak against Harbaugh's ravens 👍
They should have did the whole coaching staff together or at least HC and coordinators.
AP is taking notes #raidernation
Ryan’s is 1 and Zac Taylor is 4?! Taylor took over the worst team in the league and then went to the Super Bowl and then the very next year the afc title game. Both years they had at least 3 offensive lineman out in the playoffs.
Were they the worst team because they actually just sucked or, were they the worst team because they had just been mismanaged? The Buccaneers sucked before Brady showed up but, it wasn’t from a lack of quality throughout the roster. It was just mismanaged and bad QB play.
The first year Taylor was there they completely remade the defense through free agency. Brought in Hendrickson, von bell, Awuzie, bj hill in a trade, First draft with Taylor they took Burrow, Higgins, Logan Wilson. Next years draft got chase and cam Taylor Britt
C'mon man...Taylor also had the number 1 overall pick one year and a top ten pick the next to get Burrow and Jamar Chase....also the Bengals' owner finally stopped being cheap and spent some of the 80mil 😂 that he was sitting on...Zac Taylor did nothing but be a good OC....chill with the hyperbole on Taylor's "rise" 😂
Put time stamps on these things, your viewers will thank you.
Texans @ 24:24
Thank you
MCDC comin for that #1 spot, in the league 💯
Dan Campbell will be a Super Bowl winning head coach after this year
Lmao
Yes. NSOLA.
What about the kickers! Hah jk. Love the show guys.
The disrespect to the Raiders on every take is ridiculous. How can Harbaugh who has a awful roster ahead of Antonio Pierce who has a winning record in his first season?
Isn't it obvious? In case it isn't pierce (who I love) 1 year experience.
Packers fan or not, Matt LaFleur is underrated as a head coach.
People can call me a hater, but it feels like Tomlin is living off reputation at this point.
He is still a good coach, though. The guy never has had a losing season, and with his offenses being so bad and predictable the past few years, that is saying a lot. Is he belicheck? No, but he is still a good coach and a good motivator
Got them to the playoffs AGAIN last season... can't do that on reputation.
Reputation? Yea, you aren’t just being called a hater. You just are a hater. Tell me a coach who has done as much, with equal or lesser QB play?
😂 never had a losing season. You’re a clown buddy
@@HawgWyldFishingExactly
Glad to hear Jim Harbaugh get his juice, in 1-2 years were coming for the best of the AFC
Lafleur is underrated
John Harbaugh cost his team the Super Bowl. He didn't give Frank Gore the rock during the goal line stand.
They should do the whole league and start from the bottom. Siriani is the absolute worst (has ZERO qualifications) followed by Saleh. On the opposite end, Andy Reid is number 1.
Disrespectful to LeFleur smh
Pretty Reasonable tbh. Campbell started with the worst roster in the NFL and made it to the NFC championship in 3 years. Lafleur inherited a solid roster with an MVP QB and made it to the exact same place Campbell did.
Do you weigh each group by value ? I would argue coach and QB would be the most important and should have more value.
Lafleur is simply more proven, better, consistent, and dealt with more adversity with different groups than Dan Campbell.
LeFluke is 2-4 against MCDC
Demeco Ryan's a star!
Its one season. 😒
LeFluer always swept under the rug…
Nahhh the nfc south disrespect they spent like two seconds on them
Matt LaFluer has a 59-31 record to Campbell's 31-41-1. And Campbell's higher... sigh... are these really "experts"?
LaFleur inherited a consistent team with one of the best QBs of all time, MCDC was given a bottom 3 team with Jared Goff. Both are good but Detroit is a historically awful franchise that turned around completely, the Packers are a good organization and made a smart hire that revitalized the team, but are always good.
Packers have been solidly consistent, MCDC took what was arguably the worst team in the league in the Lions and turned them into Super Bowl contenders in 3 years. The Lions improved under Campbell every year so far - you can't say the same for LaFleur
Feel free to correct me on this but Shanahan has been beating the bricks off McVay. McVay is 5-10 vs Shanahan.
Shanahan is a great coach with an amazing team. McVay is an amazing coach with a great team. I love the Rams but if McVay had all the weapons that the 9ers do, he'd probably have 2 or 3 rings by now.
@@55meds He had all those weapons.
Todd Gurley - CMC
Everett/Higbee - Kittle
Kupp-Woods-Cooks/ Deebo-Aiyuk
Whitworth-Trent Williams
McVay failed to win a SB with weapons that are very comparable to the Niners. And he didn’t win until he got a QB.
He also had an equally comparable defense probably even better defensive personnel. His front 4 was better than what the Niners have now. Edge at linebacker for the 49ers. But a better secondary for the Rams.
I imagine when Shanahan gets a QB of Staffords caliber he will win a SB. Whether Purdy is that guy is hard to tell. This will be his second full season. Too early for that talk.
Yes but, he did what Kyle has failed continually do 😂 Shanahan would tell you he’d trade that record against McVay and whomever else to have a championship 🤷🏻♂️
As a nines fan. Until Kyle takes a super bowl home McVay is on top. He has just come up short.
KOC and JJ are gonna shock The NFL in 2024. Minnesota is one of my two darkhorses in The NFC to go to The NFC Championship.
Hahahahaha
Just like people take C.J. Stroud take over Jordan Love, even though Love had better stats, people underrate and disrespect Matt LaFluer the same way. Better resume than Campbell. Lower ranking. It's very frustrating, as a Packers fan. I'll admit it. Sigh.
@tyork7229 Based on what? The numbers say otherwise.
MCDC is 4-2 against LeFluke
@@LionsOnTheHunt313 Yeah and Matt LaFluer has a 49-20 record to Campbell's 17-28-1. Take the "L" and have a seat, sir.
@@joshbeezley4158 The Lions were practically an expansion team in 2021. And LeFluke has obviously been a HC longer, and inherited A-A-Ron and a talented roster.
I have a STRONG feeling the career records will start to even out, and MCDC will continue to OWN LeFluke 🤫😏🙂
Sean Payton lost to Josh McDaniels then Antonio pierce whooped them week 18 😂😂 but I guess the broncos need one thing good about them even though he’s not good😂
But he beat Andy Reid,Kevin O’Connell,Sean McDermott,
Sean Mcdermot is one of the coaches who never gets credit for the Bills success
He should have been fired at the end of last season
Dude underachieved every year
No live for Matt LeFleur? Just play offs every year. Come on guys, I get ranking him 2nd in the division but no metion of him at all is wrong.
Think Ranking the Giants Coaching last in the division. Disagree. Wholeheartedly
No one is worse than Siriani in the entire league, nevermind the division. The fact that they stripped him of all his power and brought in 2 top coordinators to justify his hiring in the first place says it all.
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Good point.
Dumb take on NFC north giving coaches same talent then it’s Kevin O’Connell. Same could be said giving Sean Payton Patrick Mahomes then he’s number one in their division.
Dan Campbell over MLF😭😭😭😭
seems legit to me
They just through a dart and that where it landed. No way, Campbell that high. He's maybe 3rd in the division
@@antmas3507He has been a large part of building that team from the ground up. Changing the culture of a team is one of the hardest things for a coach to do
@@antmas3507 what are the 4 coaches in the NFC norths records against each other?
He went from 3-13-1 to the NFCC in 2 years. What’s wrong?
Let's gooooooo niners !!!!!!!!
Shanahan deserves to be #1 rn in the division, he’s taken his team to 4 nfc championships and 2 SBs. I just wish they would have expanded on AZ and Sea cause the NFC west is going to be loaded once again.
@@seanwjones07 Shanahan has been unable to win it all, though - and that's with a stacked team.
McVay pulled off the win in Stafford's first year with the team and with a safety brought back after two years in retirement. that's pulling it off against the odds, compared to the guy that couldn't do it with a stacked team.
Jim Harbaugh over the legend & offensive genius, Sean Payton, is laughable.
The disrepsect to Matt Lafleur is hilarious. That job he did last year with the packers makes him the best in the division. The Lions are loaded, especially offensively.
@@chedbeckford8067 exactly. Everyone said MLF was carried by Rodgers when he had multiple 13 win seasons now he has a bunch of rookies and a first year starting qb and takes them to the playoffs with all the injuries and miscues. Stomps on Dallas and had the Niners beat at home. Dan Campbell is the reason for the Lions success but as well as his terrible decisions have been their downfall. One good season from Campbell and the Lions and everyone thinks the Lions are gonna be a wagon from here on out. Can’t see it
These guys, like the vast majority of national media, are clueless about Green Bay.
LeFluke is 2-4 against MCDC.
Penei Sewell, St Brown, Gibbs, Williams…all drafted with Dan Campbell as the head coach. Maybe he just knows how to develop players too. He is also 4-2 against Lafleur, 3-1 as an underdog.
The Packers team was not much different last year than the year before. The only obvious difference was Love for Rodgers, which on the surface seems big, but then you dig just a little bit, and you see that Rodgers was a bottom 8 starting QB the last season in GB. Love wasn’t replacing an MVP. He was replacing a guy who was not good. The comeback GB had at the end of ‘22 winning 4 in a row before Detroit bounced them week 18 had nothing to do with the play of Rodgers. So where you see some magical performance by Lafleur, I see a team that was 1 game better than the year before with a lot of the same roster and better QB play.
John Harbaugh is the most overrated coach in the NFL. no one has does less with more than him. Give Andy Reid that roster or Tomlin that roster and the Ravens win a SB. Harbaugh is overrated
Tomlin???? lol
@@wc6046Tomlin is 7-1 in the last 4 years vs harbaugh and the ravens with the corpse of Big Ben and Kenny Pickett/mitch Trubisky💀
This is a fair take.
I live in SF and Harbaugh had a lot of issues with relationships. It started out one way and ended differently. He was effective and made tough calls that worked out. As a guy who used to watch him play qb i’d like to see a less quirky/more wise Jim have success.
@@blitzburgh9066half of those games Tomlin is facing back up QBs
Everyone wants to do what the Texans did
You mean what the Bengals did in 2021 ? They literally using the Bengals blueprint!
@@dottade6797 Nah bro 😂 Texans Lost their #pick took CJ the Underdog with #2 trade up for Will Anderson the terminator at #3 then we did what we did all season had CJ in MVP race took both rookie classes and Demeco was robbed for coach of the year to the team we blowout of the playoffs year 1 of the rebuild when everyone thought we'd be equally as bad or worse than the Panthers and Pats 😂 nobody was ready for us and their still not were gonna do what the Bengals couldn't
@@MordecaiFromRegularShow lol lil homie you geeked up next season won’t be that great for yall just wait on it definitely WONT MAKE A SUPER BOWL YEAR 2 😂😂🤡
@@MordecaiFromRegularShow YALL had a last place schedule with 0 expectations next season will not be that smooth and besides the Browns Texans wasn’t world beaters please calm down last game played was TERRIBLE
@dottade6797 Kitty go ow
Put 2-time MVP Lamar Jackson on the Steelers and watch them win the SB this year with ease....Harbaugh is still playing around😂 one and done just like the Steelers were with Pickett and Company...and he has Lamar Jackson?? Naw, give me Mike T over John Harbaugh, please. 😂😊
I'm sorry, but having campbell over lafleur is insane. Yes, dan campbell is a good coach, but I want to see him with different coordinators; how do his teams respond then? Without ben johnson, is his offense still as good? Lafleur lost Rodgers and Hackett and the offense didnt really slow down. What pushes Lafleur over the edge for me is the developmental job lafleur has done with managing and developing such young team and coaching them into great players so fast.
The Lions core players, except Goff & Anzolone, are very young as well. Last I checked Lions players dominate the top under 25 players lists. MCDC is a great developer of players. Goff & Anzolone have resurrected their careers.
Welcome to “move the sticks” sounds wrong 😂
Edit:(Ik that they are talking abt football smh)
Mike Tomlin is the most overrated coach in NFL.
Bucky has watched no Cardinals film, the continuous Cardinals disrespect is out of line. How do you put a coach that hasn't even coached a game yet ahead of Gannon who outperformed expectations last year with Kyler out for half the year.
Especially when in the AFC East he said he had to put the rookie (Mayo) last because he had never coached as a HC.
I rarely almost never get through a full video. Too much talking just to talk. Get to it...
Mike Mccarthy is the mist overrated coach of the last 20 years probably. Doc Rivers of the NFL. ARod would have atleast 1 more ring if Mccarthy wasn't the coach