There is a much more efficient method dealing with IS-4 or Soviet 7.3-7.7 heavies in general that I've always used. Basically whenever you have to face them at 500m range, simply press J. That gonna costs you much less time
When the Tiger 10,5 was 6.7, I liked loading APCR to suprise these heavies. Similar to the T95. They were suprised by how a Tiger II could pen. Got called cheater couple times.
It's pointless to use the 105mm Pzgr. 40, which didn't even exist, over the 105mm Pzgr. Rot, since it barely penetrates more while the APCBC round overpressures on penetration.
Neither how tiger 2's facing is-3's and 6's existed , if we want to play that game let's say the war continued the Germans would of kept making better tanks like the e-75 that was supposed to replace the tiger 2 the e-75 with a 105 gun better slopped 160 mm front armor and 285 mm turret would of been what those tanks would of faced in real life @@kimjanek646 If they want to play the realism card then make it so that the tanks face what they faced in reality not post war bs tanks that never saw combat and were probably crap ... kinda like how modern Russian tanks are taken out by Bradley's crap ... Russian bias in this game is comical
As a russian main that plays with german mains, I can confirm that these things are absolute nightmares. The MAUS is cool, but ultimately just a roadblock, when these things outrun some mediums. The actual nightmare fuel is seeing an entire team spawn IS3s, IS6s, IS4s and that one IS7.
Да, кошмар... Кошмар для игроков, которые играют на них. Ужасная перезарядка, плохое пробитие, абобные снаряды, УВН. Что, броня? ДМ23, птуры и кумулятивы передают привет! Подвижность да, как для тяжей неплохая. Но на 8.3 - 8.7 хватает колëсников, которые в разы лучше катаются.
Nice video! Just one more tip against the IS 3. Shoot the IS 3 frontally just below the gun, it will bounce off and penetrate the roof armor above the driver! Its a shot trap, similar to the Panther turret.
Also if you get lucky enough, you can shoot above the breech on that one 20-30mm plate. It’s so thin because it’s meant to be removable for maintenance, and rarely bounces shells due to how thin it is
You can easily go through the driver's hatch. Not many people seem to know about it and it can be a tough shot, but it's a guaranteed oneshot. You should especialyl know about this if you're playing the IS-3. Always bush up your frontal plate and do the ol wiggle if you're head on with someone and caught reloading.
This shot is unreliable with volumetric. I use the IS-3 and encountered many skilled players going for that, and it never works. They either clip my gun barrel or their shot dissapears. And same when i tried to take out an IS-3 like that. Before volumetric, the IS-3 was a very weak tank because people would instantly shoot there and kill you with any gun. Now, that's not really possible anymore.
Also there is one frontal weakspot on the is-3 that not many people even know about. If you shoot the cupola on the is-3’s left side (your right side) you can take out the turret crew. This is useful if you are in a situation where you are facing multiple tanks and disabling a tank just wouldn’t do. It’s quite flat so penetration isn’t too difficult at close range
Nice video, but just reminder, the long your distance from the target, the less pen you got, so that weak point you say in the video probably doesn't work at far distance
As a player who has the is-4, it is also possible to trap shell and take out the crew, I have seen it done when the shell impacts the bottom left and right side of the, below the turret
Yeah, the IS-4 is just ridiculously well armored, only thing is that tanks will often have heat at 7.7, but if you are a 6.7 heavy you don't have heat :).
On the is 6, if you shoot the back of the turret you may not hit ammo, because experienced is 6 players only bring about 14 shells with them so their ammo is stocked in the hull, if you have aphe you will kill crew, if you have ap, just go for the midde so u can kill the breech
Simplest way is to not get in fights with them in the first place. 99% of heavy tanks in the game are ALWAYS gonna struggle in a full uptier. Let the tanks with better firepower handle them for the most part.
And remember if you try to hit this weak spots you probably just hit the tracks, or it doesn't pen, or he use his barrel as lightsaber to bounce of the shot, and if you're trying to get the advantage you already have given away for the 3rd time your location and a light tank with atgm will show up, just after CAS has dropped a 500kg bomb.
nah the is-6 can get downtiered, and it should. It is a tank built before the tiger 2 and has been constantly uptiered, to the point that it faces apfsds and TOW missiles constantly
The Is-3 can be taken out from the front if u shoot the drivers optics, not always guaranteed but it works, also the right turret cheek is slightly bigger than the left one so it has a bit more chance to be penetrated
The tiger 2 H literally cannot see the T-10M in matches. The matchmaker pairs you with vehicles of +/- 1 BR of your max BR vehicle in your lineup. So the tiger 2 H can only see 5.7 (where it's just OP as hell) all the way to 7.7. There are 2 possible reasons you encountered the T-10M: you either brought a higher BR vehicle in your lineup or your squadmate brought a higher BR vehicle in his lineup.
I think you forgot 2 vehicles. T-54 1947 (i think its the 47) it has pretty decent ufp angling and the turret can be wonky at times. The other tank is the T-10A a rarer tank but you still occasionally see them and they can be difficult to deal with.
This depends on what vehicle you are using, This video is specifically from a Tiger II perspective, and also it does depend on how far you are away from them as well.
I tried to figure out how you are not being able to pen a T29/30/34 when you have vehicles like AMX M4, Charioteer, ELC unless your lineup is 5.7-6.0 in which you're gonna have difficulty in killing them. Here's my tips as US main at 6.7, try to get close to them, preferably flanking, to get to their side and aim at the center of the turret, aim the hull under the center of turret or the left cheek if possible as those are the spot where the ammo were kept, especially the left cheek as they are the first ammo stage rack. Unless your vehicles has a good shell with more than 200mm, avoid their visibility as much as possible, specifically when they are hulldown and at medium range and further.
The 122 APHE can one shot the is3 from the turret cheeks if your at close range which is a one shot if you atleast have over200mms of pen this is the choice
The Tiger II has a flat 185 mm turret cheek. Literally the ONLY soviet tank that doesn't have enough Pen to go through it reliably at 500 meters and one-shot it is the T-38-85 and T-44. Sounds like you suffer from a MASSIVE case of skill issue.
@@Losowy If German players don't angle then why do you struggle penning the turret of the Tiger II? Sounds like skill issue. You just clowned yourself with one comment, good job. Also I main France and now going down the Japanese techtree. Soviet players followed by American are hands-down the least skilled in this game. You can try gaslighting the German players as much as you want but it's true; you're way worse than them - especially at top tier.
Them things are annoying, the front of the hull is quite resistant to the long 88, and the turret is extremely trolly to deal with, I'll see if I can do something with that in the future.
I don't remember really well, I killed many Is3 or 6 in a single match from the long distance as a sniper with Leopard 1 tank by using AP shells, but took many shots to destroy and penetrate the roof of the tank. Is6's weak spot is front driver's beneath armor
It's true that the L7 has a much easier time dealing with them, but from the intro I made, this video was from the perspective of a Tiger II being uptiered.
@@SeanFicken I'm German and nearly choked when I read it 😅 my name isn't any better though, my first name is very similar to Casper and my last name is that of a car brand
bs? the tiger 2 has only been downtiered, whereas the is-6 has been so overtiered over the past updates that it constantly faces apfsds and TOW missiles, even though the Is-6 was designed and built in '43.
Idk what world ya living on but playing the Tiger II at 6.7 gets uptiered to 7.3 and sometimes.. just sometimes 8.0 This happens a lot more then i prefer it did. And once i see a T10, its basically game over because most situations just have em hauling ass at me. I can go as far as saying the T10 is the bane for a Tiger II. IS-3 isnt so bad. Also the Tiger II(H) hasn't been down tiered. If anything they have upped its BR, mostly relating to the (P) version and then the Tiger I's almost got stuck in the same boat but they reverted it back to 5.7 and 6.0 for the Tiger I "E" I mean shit, the Kugelblitz for some reason is at 7.0, that really takes the cake for some pretty shitty situations. We could easily blame this on Gaijns issue with BR compression. @@intechio9013
I'll always say this... Playing warthunder in 2024 as Soviet is a joke... Unless you reach br 9,7 the Russians will sufffer sooo much they get killed by everything and everyone they have been uptiered all the tanks and they lost all their dread and rep... They where scary in their old BR but gayjin keeps nerfing and uptering the tanks
Ahahah,wonderfull world until the game begin. ALL this wonder just end up in frustration, no pen, bouncing, shot just off by a tad but your aiming was good. Best advice is to stay away from that russian bias game.
There is a much more efficient method dealing with IS-4 or Soviet 7.3-7.7 heavies in general that I've always used. Basically whenever you have to face them at 500m range, simply press J. That gonna costs you much less time
Neat!
😅
I will definitely use this method, thanks 😀👍
I play on console, what does j do lol
@@gagewalters7051you leave your tank
When the Tiger 10,5 was 6.7, I liked loading APCR to suprise these heavies. Similar to the T95. They were suprised by how a Tiger II could pen. Got called cheater couple times.
APCR is actually quite useful in specific situations, always good to have a few on hand just in case.
It's pointless to use the 105mm Pzgr. 40, which didn't even exist, over the 105mm Pzgr. Rot, since it barely penetrates more while the APCBC round overpressures on penetration.
That was not the point, but thanks for letting us know.
Neither how tiger 2's facing is-3's and 6's existed , if we want to play that game let's say the war continued the Germans would of kept making better tanks like the e-75 that was supposed to replace the tiger 2 the e-75 with a 105 gun better slopped 160 mm front armor and 285 mm turret would of been what those tanks would of faced in real life @@kimjanek646
If they want to play the realism card then make it so that the tanks face what they faced in reality not post war bs tanks that never saw combat and were probably crap ... kinda like how modern Russian tanks are taken out by Bradley's crap ... Russian bias in this game is comical
@@Orodreth888what's the pen on that?? As a t95 user it worries me
As a russian main that plays with german mains, I can confirm that these things are absolute nightmares. The MAUS is cool, but ultimately just a roadblock, when these things outrun some mediums. The actual nightmare fuel is seeing an entire team spawn IS3s, IS6s, IS4s and that one IS7.
Да, кошмар... Кошмар для игроков, которые играют на них. Ужасная перезарядка, плохое пробитие, абобные снаряды, УВН. Что, броня? ДМ23, птуры и кумулятивы передают привет! Подвижность да, как для тяжей неплохая. Но на 8.3 - 8.7 хватает колëсников, которые в разы лучше катаются.
@@чпокс-й6к I think you forgot spaa exists
Bro non penned side turret I AM DEAD 💀
Left that in there just for a comment :))
The is4 is ridiculous. I'd say it's even more armored and terrifying than the maus itself
Nice video! Just one more tip against the IS 3.
Shoot the IS 3 frontally just below the gun, it will bounce off and penetrate the roof armor above the driver! Its a shot trap, similar to the Panther turret.
its still possible, but volumetric makes it way harder to do
Also if you get lucky enough, you can shoot above the breech on that one 20-30mm plate. It’s so thin because it’s meant to be removable for maintenance, and rarely bounces shells due to how thin it is
You can shoot straight at driver's roof if you have a bit of a downward angle
You can easily go through the driver's hatch. Not many people seem to know about it and it can be a tough shot, but it's a guaranteed oneshot. You should especialyl know about this if you're playing the IS-3. Always bush up your frontal plate and do the ol wiggle if you're head on with someone and caught reloading.
This shot is unreliable with volumetric. I use the IS-3 and encountered many skilled players going for that, and it never works. They either clip my gun barrel or their shot dissapears. And same when i tried to take out an IS-3 like that. Before volumetric, the IS-3 was a very weak tank because people would instantly shoot there and kill you with any gun. Now, that's not really possible anymore.
At 8.3 I faced an IS-7 with skulls at the sides and above the tracks
NGL that was the scariest thing considering I was in a Marder A1A3
At least you have atgms then
Now try it with a Marder III
0:51 at this moment you know that not even this video can save u from bias
Also there is one frontal weakspot on the is-3 that not many people even know about. If you shoot the cupola on the is-3’s left side (your right side) you can take out the turret crew. This is useful if you are in a situation where you are facing multiple tanks and disabling a tank just wouldn’t do. It’s quite flat so penetration isn’t too difficult at close range
with the Is-3, if you aim for the very bottom of the mantlet, you can POTENTIALLY bounce the round into the roof.
This is very inconsistent now with volumetric.
Nice video, but just reminder, the long your distance from the target, the less pen you got, so that weak point you say in the video probably doesn't work at far distance
As a player who has the is-4, it is also possible to trap shell and take out the crew, I have seen it done when the shell impacts the bottom left and right side of the, below the turret
I have multiple thousand hours in this game and I didn't know the back of the is4 turret was this strong
Yeah, the IS-4 is just ridiculously well armored, only thing is that tanks will often have heat at 7.7, but if you are a 6.7 heavy you don't have heat :).
Dam Russian hyper fans went silent when this video dropped 💀
On the is 6, if you shoot the back of the turret you may not hit ammo, because experienced is 6 players only bring about 14 shells with them so their ammo is stocked in the hull, if you have aphe you will kill crew, if you have ap, just go for the midde so u can kill the breech
Simplest way is to not get in fights with them in the first place. 99% of heavy tanks in the game are ALWAYS gonna struggle in a full uptier. Let the tanks with better firepower handle them for the most part.
I sure do love grinding heavy tanks only to not be able to play them half the time in some matches.
@@Zorro9129 That's the downside of playing most heavy tanks, my guy. They generally suffer in full uptiers, and that goes for any BR heavy tanks.
m109a1 USA say hello to overpressure at below the tank
And remember if you try to hit this weak spots you probably just hit the tracks, or it doesn't pen, or he use his barrel as lightsaber to bounce of the shot, and if you're trying to get the advantage you already have given away for the 3rd time your location and a light tank with atgm will show up, just after CAS has dropped a 500kg bomb.
Me a Soviet main: oh no
*Let's start from the IS-6, the lightest one*
Don't give Gaijin any ideas
nah the is-6 can get downtiered, and it should. It is a tank built before the tiger 2 and has been constantly uptiered, to the point that it faces apfsds and TOW missiles constantly
@@intechio9013lol, if that's the case, then the tiger 1s and the panthers should face 76mm T-34s and KV-1s. wouldn't like that, would you?
@@Dominique9325 I think Cold War ammunition vehicles should be split from more WW2 type vehicles.
your last name has a special meaning in german
1:55 you can shoot the drivers hatch????
2:10 bro was getting angry at us
The Is-3 can be taken out from the front if u shoot the drivers optics, not always guaranteed but it works, also the right turret cheek is slightly bigger than the left one so it has a bit more chance to be penetrated
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Also in battle you problary wont have time to take out the barrel then the tracks then drive around. Mostl likley there will be another close.
i remember once i shoot the turret and killed an is-3 in my tiger 2p aphe
there are some lucky shots you can make, I like to stray away from shots that are almost luck based.
i had to fight the t-10 in my tiger 2 H several times. and i still dont know how the hell i am fighting it the tiger 2 ist 6.7 but the t-10 is 8.3
The tiger 2 H literally cannot see the T-10M in matches. The matchmaker pairs you with vehicles of +/- 1 BR of your max BR vehicle in your lineup. So the tiger 2 H can only see 5.7 (where it's just OP as hell) all the way to 7.7. There are 2 possible reasons you encountered the T-10M: you either brought a higher BR vehicle in your lineup or your squadmate brought a higher BR vehicle in his lineup.
Bro i swear i also thought that but it even happened when i play alone. In the Match there were also some helicopters.
kinda suprised you didnt also visited the t10a
I think you forgot 2 vehicles. T-54 1947 (i think its the 47) it has pretty decent ufp angling and the turret can be wonky at times. The other tank is the T-10A a rarer tank but you still occasionally see them and they can be difficult to deal with.
I like keeping these brief, which is why they aren't included, but I can make a second video that includes those.
How about Object 268, besides shooting that machine gun port, and the Su-122-54?
I did everything you said, still ricochet.
This depends on what vehicle you are using, This video is specifically from a Tiger II perspective, and also it does depend on how far you are away from them as well.
Do you have a guide to kill the T29/30/34? Those always get me as-well especially when playing France or Britain with solid shot.
I tried to figure out how you are not being able to pen a T29/30/34 when you have vehicles like AMX M4, Charioteer, ELC unless your lineup is 5.7-6.0 in which you're gonna have difficulty in killing them.
Here's my tips as US main at 6.7, try to get close to them, preferably flanking, to get to their side and aim at the center of the turret, aim the hull under the center of turret or the left cheek if possible as those are the spot where the ammo were kept, especially the left cheek as they are the first ammo stage rack. Unless your vehicles has a good shell with more than 200mm, avoid their visibility as much as possible, specifically when they are hulldown and at medium range and further.
Most guns can pen LFP or even unangled UFP, otherwise shoot mantlet.
@@jojomaster7675 when i shoot the mantlet it pens but yellows the dude behind it.
@@thekringe4387 Solid shot moment?
@@jojomaster7675 yeah, but even when using APHE i get it lol
what about t44 and t54
good video thanks 👍
This makes me wonder why the IS-6 is in the same BR as the IS-3
I learned how to play the KingTiger from a small Warthunder TikToker named Snaillover. He has killed the T90M and STRV 122 frontally in it 😳.
Damn I know that dude, he's on Flipaclip's discord server and he posts his tiktoks in there
You can still shot trap the IS-3 ended up doing it to one, then a Maus 2x in one engagement pretty lucky tbh lol
what about is-7?
I tried everything. Half of the time the weak spot doesn't even work.
The is-4 one isn't easy to hit, and they have to be almost straight on to you. You also have to shoot the hatch at the top.
Charioteer & Conway laughing in the corner
The 122 APHE can one shot the is3 from the turret cheeks if your at close range which is a one shot if you atleast have over200mms of pen this is the choice
There was never any soviet bias. Angled armor is just built different. Shermans show that (until they face anti-tank guns)
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Super useful
If you see this 3 tanks you should press J to surrender
Now try it with the T26 E1
>soviet bias
>tiger II
My brother in Christ you're playing tank that is indestructible menace for most of soviet tanks with br equal or lower to it
German players get very well peforming vehicles at every tier and rank and still have the audacity to call bias
The Tiger II has a flat 185 mm turret cheek.
Literally the ONLY soviet tank that doesn't have enough Pen to go through it reliably at 500 meters and one-shot it is the T-38-85 and T-44.
Sounds like you suffer from a MASSIVE case of skill issue.
@@wallachia4797 looks like i found german main cuz u forgot that angling exists
@@Losowy If German players don't angle then why do you struggle penning the turret of the Tiger II? Sounds like skill issue.
You just clowned yourself with one comment, good job.
Also I main France and now going down the Japanese techtree. Soviet players followed by American are hands-down the least skilled in this game. You can try gaslighting the German players as much as you want but it's true; you're way worse than them - especially at top tier.
@@wallachia4797 just went with stereotypical joke and dude got pissed lol
IS3 driver hatch is also easy pen
The is 3 has week spot bellow the canon barrel same as the is 4m, im suprised not many people know.
How to kill the barely 40% win rate ""soviet bias""
Anyone know how to kill t44 and t44-100
Them things are annoying, the front of the hull is quite resistant to the long 88, and the turret is extremely trolly to deal with, I'll see if I can do something with that in the future.
>CAS
I was playing king tiger and i killed an is3 through the roof of the turret lmao
THANKS
If you are fighting these soviet heavies from the front, dont
These aren't soviet bias tanks...........
i wouldnt say bias machines they were designed to counter the 88 and 128
I don't remember really well, I killed many Is3 or 6 in a single match from the long distance as a sniper with Leopard 1 tank by using AP shells, but took many shots to destroy and penetrate the roof of the tank. Is6's weak spot is front driver's beneath armor
It's true that the L7 has a much easier time dealing with them, but from the intro I made, this video was from the perspective of a Tiger II being uptiered.
Never mind
nice video
but you should probably not google translate your sir name from german to english. it's very unfortunate
Known about that most of my life lol
@@SeanFicken I'm German and nearly choked when I read it 😅 my name isn't any better though, my first name is very similar to Casper and my last name is that of a car brand
Those tanks seriously are some bs for a tiger II to be fighting but meh. gaijn.
bs? the tiger 2 has only been downtiered, whereas the is-6 has been so overtiered over the past updates that it constantly faces apfsds and TOW missiles, even though the Is-6 was designed and built in '43.
Idk what world ya living on but playing the Tiger II at 6.7 gets uptiered to 7.3 and sometimes.. just sometimes 8.0
This happens a lot more then i prefer it did. And once i see a T10, its basically game over because most situations just have em hauling ass at me. I can go as far as saying the T10 is the bane for a Tiger II. IS-3 isnt so bad.
Also the Tiger II(H) hasn't been down tiered. If anything they have upped its BR, mostly relating to the (P) version and then the Tiger I's almost got stuck in the same boat but they reverted it back to 5.7 and 6.0 for the Tiger I "E"
I mean shit, the Kugelblitz for some reason is at 7.0, that really takes the cake for some pretty shitty situations. We could easily blame this on Gaijns issue with BR compression. @@intechio9013
The IS 6 is easy to destroy with the TIGER E and the PzGr
I'll always say this... Playing warthunder in 2024 as Soviet is a joke... Unless you reach br 9,7 the Russians will sufffer sooo much they get killed by everything and everyone they have been uptiered all the tanks and they lost all their dread and rep... They where scary in their old BR but gayjin keeps nerfing and uptering the tanks
or just play russia
Ahahah,wonderfull world until the game begin. ALL this wonder just end up in frustration, no pen, bouncing, shot just off by a tad but your aiming was good. Best advice is to stay away from that russian bias game.
german tutorials please be a man with honor -_-