1978 SPECIAL REPORT: "RELATIVES OF JONESTOWN VICTIMS SPEAK OUT"
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- Meanwhile, in late 1977 and early 1978, Tim and Grace Stoen participated in meetings with other relatives of Jonestown residents at the home of Jeannie Mills, another Temple defector. Together, they called themselves the "Concerned Relatives".
Tim Stoen engaged in letter-writing campaigns to the U.S. Secretary of State and the Guyanese government, and traveled to Washington, D.C. to attempt to begin an investigation.
In January 1978, Stoen wrote a white paper to Congress detailing his grievances and requesting that congressmen write to Prime Minister Burnham; 91 congressmen wrote such letters, including Congressman Leo Ryan.
On February 17, 1978, Jones submitted to an interview with San Francisco Examiner reporter Tim Reiterman.
Reiterman's subsequent story about the Stoen custody battle prompted the immediate threat of a lawsuit by the Temple.
The repercussions were devastating for the Temple's reputation, and made most former supporters more suspicious of the Temple's claims that it was the victim of a "rightist vendetta".
Still, others remained loyal. On the day after Reiterman's article was published, Harvey Milk - a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors who was supported by the Temple - wrote a letter to President Jimmy Carter defending Jones "as a man of the highest character," and stating that Temple defectors were trying to "damage Rev. Jones' reputation" with "apparent bold-faced lies".
On April 11, 1978, the Concerned Relatives distributed a packet of documents, including letters and affidavits, that they titled an "Accusation of Human Rights Violations by Rev. James Warren Jones" to the Peoples Temple, members of the press, and members of Congress.
In June 1978, Layton provided the group with a further affidavit detailing alleged crimes by the Temple and substandard living conditions in Jonestown.
Tim Stoen represented three members of the Concerned Relatives in lawsuits filed in May and June 1978 against Jones and other Temple members, seeking in excess of $56 million in damages. The Temple, represented by Charles R. Garry, filed a suit against Stoen on July 10, 1978 seeking $150 million in damages
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The first guy interviewed is a real one; Strong minded and highly intelligent.
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I wish to god he got some sort of revenge.
Very much so I wonder if he still Alive..
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Wow. The first guy summed it up pretty good. Many of the people in those cults come from broken or families that were dysfunctional in some way.
Exactly and that’s how they get you that’s how they suck you in
@@1990758 Definitely. Very sad.
Blaque people as always believing no whyte man is out to get them but will question everything a blaque person do which isn’t wrong your supposed to question me as a blaque man you don’t know but the fact that they let a whyte man convince them to do all of that shows you the mentality we have as a people I don’t have any empathy for the blaque women who did that my mom I love her to death would never do that to us no human can tell my mom to take her children life’s under no circumstances how can you let a whyte man tell you take your baby live for him unbelievable how anybody can look at me an feel sorry for these women who I don’t those poor babies crying on that tape you allowed a whyte man to completely tell you give up yourself to him how could you do that
What happened over there in Guyana, still fucks with me till this day. Not many words still speechless.
Me too. Lately I have been watching many of the videos.
Me also brother! Some weird stuff went down in that jungle and we're not getting the whole story that's for sure.
Me too...Intriguing and sad....I've been researching this since 2008 when I first heard about it....I've read every book on it but I love this raw footage
@@keirra69 I been reading, researching also for about 6 years. Tragic, but, I admit, addictively fascinating. Have you read anything regarding the Layton family involvement in Jonestown?
@@steeveekeys1904 Somewhat....Larry and Carolyn was married...Then Carolyn Layton started having an affair with Jim Jones...She became one of the elite members and mother to Kimo Jones...She was instrumental in all the decision making including the cyanide poisoning plan
We need to bring back this type of investigative reporting...Immediately! The new's coverage in the 70"s Did Not Play!!!!! Great coverage and video.
The reporter: you sound angry. The lady: yes! I'm angry. The reporter sounds like she was surprised that people of color had these kind of feelings about their loved ones. They really thought that way.
As long as we've been in the United States white people the reporter has no clue on how to interview or talk to us very disrespectful and ignorant! The families were then are now victims damn channel 7 didn't have no respect whatsoever
@@garyflythe1362 if you want to talk about being mad I am because for 50 years the media lied and called it a suicide it was Murder!
How are they suppose to talk to you?
No funeral homes in the US wanted to bury the bodies bc they were filled with poison but there was over 300 bodies that no one claimed... A lot of people who ended up in Jonestown were homeless and vulnerable and no one claimed their bodies...They had nothing to lose so they chose to go with him to Guyana. I was 8 years old when this happened and I remember seeing Maria Katsaris on the news the night before they k*lled themselves, I woke up the next morning and they were all dead.. It was very sad...Thanks for posting.
they were filled with syringe marks and bulletwounds
No cemetery wanted the bodies bc of the social taboo that it created to have a monument to that monster a lot of healing time was needed. Jones has his name right there on the plaque at Evergreen with all the other victims. Most bodies were claimed the main bodies, like 330 or somewhere in that neighborhood, are the children that were there. Jones had manipulated the system to be given guardianship over a lot of orphans and wayward children because they brought in nice government checks that they never saw a dime of. There's very few bodies that went unclaimed the ones that I am aware of were people whose families couldnt afford to bury them. The U.S kept their Social Security checks and death benefits to pay itself back for the clean up. At first they told Guyana to just dig a pit and dump them to which they refused on the basis of community health issues. Cyanide doesnt seep into the ground and contaminate that's like some next level horror movie cyanide😂 Also technically no one in Jonestown was homeless as they had a home in Jonestown and before that they would have lived in the church on Geary street, well before Jones burned it down. If you are ever curious as to what happened in the aftermath the RYMUR file contains pretty much everything and is a fascinating read👍
@@phoradio1277 Where can I read it (or download it)? Also do you believe the "conspiracy theory" that it was MK Ultra? Because of the CIA agent ect.? All the old videos about that have been removed...when they start removing vides it usually means there's some truth to it..
@@praisekek Jonestown.sdsu.edu in the keyword box type "RYMUR". No there was no conspiracy as far as a cover up. All of Mae Brussels audio has been deleted as well. That doesnt mean that she was right it just means some snowflake wanted to control what information is available to people. I guess its still a secret that you cant delete the internet. There is a lot to this story so I cant really go into details without a specific question. As far as a conspiracy you would be better to point out that Tim Stoen was able to get charges dropped against Jones after he was caught by an undercover cop for lewd acts in a public restroom. Seeking an intimate moment with other men in the restroom to be precise. He also had the arrest sealed so that the media couldnt find out. Another "conspiracy" is that there are several papers that were local who were investigating the People Temple yet Jones was not only able to shutdown the investigation but was after that able to have published People Temples propaganda without so much as a fact check before it went to print. Theres also some concern as to how much Jerry Brown, Willie Brown and S.F Mayor Moscone knew about Jones having his members sign over all they owned to the church.
Most people dont realize that before he became a Congressman that Leo Ryan was a school teacher. What got him involved other than it being in his district was that a friend of his whos 2 daughters Ryan taught in school had gone to Jonestown and his friend became a member of the Concerned Relatives. Again this story is extremely complex with a lot of working parts and it didn't happen in a vacuum which I feel people have a hard time understanding as they look back on history.
The closest thing to a "conspiracy" would be the fact that the FBI had placed a woman in an asylum who had seen the shooter of MLK in order to hide her from a subpoena issued by Congress to testify that James Earl Ray was in fact not the man that she saw shooting from the bathroom window. Mark Lane, Jones' lawyer, was also heavily involved in that case and somehow slipped the woman into Jonestown without the Feds knowing where she died on November 18th. Most conspiracy theories start with her with the basis being the government killed 900 people just to prevent her from exposing that the FBI killed MLK not a lone racist. If you read this great job champ😂 If you have any specific questions I can do my best to answer them. I was no there but have done years of research on the subject. It was the basis for my masters thesis.
Murdered. They were murdered.
That guy in the beginning is so smart, calm, honest, etc.
Thank you for uploading. I’ve watched a lot of documentaries about this awful tragedy. I’ve never seen these family members speak.
Sadly, most of the dead were buried in a mass grave. So many families were decimated, losing many members all at once.
City of San Francisco officials did not want the bodies in their city and that's how they ended up in Oakland.
Yes. At Evergreen cemetery near where I lived. Also I have loved ones buried. there.
Unfortunately, many folks were in poverty and the families probably didn’t have the money. Others were perhaps “forgotten”
The interview with the first guy sums up so well how people got themselves into that situation. He (Jim Jones) started off preaching racial equality, but he was essentially just preying on marginalised people.
Thank you!!!!!! EVERYTHING he did they are preaching now. Unfortunately, they want to do this worldwide. If we don't wake everyone up we are going to be in the same situation. They want us to give up our guns to control us. They are getting us used to living in tiny homes like they had there. They want us to give up all our property and are going to make our money worthless. They are preaching to not eat meat. Can't people see nothing is free. We are going to become slaves
Exactly you’re 1000% right and that’s what a lot of politicians do today they tell you what you want to hear show you what you wanna see
@@1990758 he wanted a communist society and the Black Panthers were communists
@@timeforchange3786 How convenient
Jonestown was 68% black... an absolute tragedy.
I hope that one day we have total equality.
Every life has equal value . But yes jim Jones exploited minorities to gain power and control , much like politicians today .
You do
Think of the countless forgotten black elderly and children of the state, that Jones was allowed to control and manipulate. 😢😩
So true
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Thank you for posting. I have visited the Jonestown memorial website, read books and all documentaries, but have never seen interviews from the family. Many are buried in a mass grave in my hometown. I worked with someone from Guyana. He said Jim Jones had a vault of all of their money, passports, etc. out there. Sad. Still bothered by this tragedy and still don't understand why.
He was a Marxist communist and was pushing free healthcare, free housing, free food. Same as they are pushing now. The reality is they gave up their homes and social security checks. No private property...same as they are pushing now. These people worked 16 hours a day then had to stay up all night in meetings. They only slept 4-6 hours a day. They would be tortured if they fell asleep. I wish people would wake up and see what is happening in our country. If you watch the videos they said they lived 4 families to a tiny house. They are currently pushing tiny homes and they only want 10% of the people to eat meat and dairy. The rest they want to eat cricket powder and roach milk. People need to wake up!!!
I’ve seen a couple but not this long maybe two minutes
This will be gaslighted whyte people don’t take accountability for racism ever this was a racist he literally targeted blaque people but they sprinkled a few whyte people to throw you off but that’s how whyte supremacy always works they always show you 5 whyte people out of the 200 blaque people who’s always the target for anything bad dude literally mentioned he was blaque like the rest of you in his speech that cleary reveal intent of a targeted group he wanted them to be blaque an he got power so he can do what he did it was all what a racist does which is mistreat color in skin that’s all it was about he’s taught that this makes it impossible to even trust any whyte person look at what happen when you trust them this man lead blaques to a grave
The first guy he gets it. Even in my own family, there are members who are intelligent beyond belief, but unfortunately, the gullibility undermines it. They have fallen prey to smooth talking men, MLM's and scams, and I've asked them, "What is it that you're not seeing?" The response is, they don't want to see the bad in things, so they focus on the good. They'll see signs of something being wrong, but they don't trust their judgement and they're afraid they'll miss out on something great. They need to see hardcore proof something is wrong. So I've conclude they do see something is up (because they're not dim witted), but do not trust their judgment, or they'll want something so badly, they'll only see the good and ignore the bad. Also, they're highly emotional people; if something appeals to their feelings, all logic goes out the window and all facts are ignored. So 2+2 can equal 5 if the reason given makes sense to them emotionally, and it's almost impossible to get them to think logically.
Your documentaries are amazing. I have a watch hardtime sleeping after watching these but, they are addicting.
You are one of the highest tier historians alive. I will donate to you for all the historical treasures you have unearthed. You are amazing. RIP to all the men, women, and the innocent babies who lost their lives to that madman.
This is just sad man can’t get over this
Terrible...I was born on this day same year. As they were leaving this earth I was coming into this mess!
Wow.
Oh wow! My daughter was born 10 days after the death of Jonestown and your birth. She was born on 28 November 1978. It was so hard watching this on the news. It was on all the TV stations. I was so happy to have given birth to my 1st born. I had a knot in my stomach that wouldn’t leave because of this despicable tragedy. I felt so bad for everyone especially the kids. They didn’t have a choice. ❤️💙🙏🏾✝️
I have a friend whose birthday is also on the same day....
I was 11 when this happened. My mom and biological dad lived in Oakland 10 years earlier. If my mom had not gotten married to someone else and moved to another state i could definitely see her falling for this.
If you can find more Jonestown news, specials please upload them! Thanks!
Cyanide is highly lethal, whether inhaled as a gas, ingested in solid form, or absorbed through skin
No idea how any black folks fell for Jones’ BS.
So many. I have a friend whose ex-mother in-law was there. She lost her daughter, her mother, brothers, uncles, etc. One of the reasons they fell for Jim Jones because here was this charismatic white man offering a heaven on earth during turbulent times. Sad.
@@standupG1 facts...took them straight to hell
The same way blk ppl follow white Jesus
@mark adams Whereas, he could have been any color, but the fact that a white man was saying these things carried a lot of weight. Keep in mind that many blacks have been conditioned to believe that a white savior will come out of the sky to save them.
The word "Free".
I love the 1st guy they talked to. I'm so sorry he lost his sisters at Jonestown but I respect his acknowledgement that his family isn't perfect (whose is?) and at that time in his life, he was trying to better his situation. I don't condone illegal activities by any stretch of the imagination, but I have some weird respect when he says he can discuss what he's gonna do to those responsible for his sisters ' death. "I've gotta talk to my friends". 😂 I have no idea if he's even in 2023, but I hope he became successful in whatever he did in life.
Smdh that cult was nothing more then demonic...and dude are responsible for there souls even in the spirit world..
The man speaking is strong, and has a hidden aggression.
Nothing is hidden. He's RIGHTFULLY angry that his family members were MURDERED and the government KNEW about this mess.
@@NajSinghs I agree!!
I'd be so choked up and devastated, it would be hard for me to talk to ANYONE.
I remember this tragedy, I was ten years old, looking at the front page of the Chicago Sun Times with my father, at all these bodies stacked up on there ground.
The reporter asked him what that guy what kinda of action he was going to do, Gentleman, I'm gonna to talk.my buddies aka STREET JUSTICE.
At 12:46.. Now I understand the pain over the death of their relatives. But I don’t like how they refer to Sen.Ryan ..he lost his life trying to intervene on behalf of their family. In fact many made the choice to go and stay in Guyana.
Most reporters come across as heartless.
Fr you can hear the bigotness in their tone
Study The Past
Yes!
Or be doomed to repeat it
We have a jealous Elohim. Don’t dare to go against him.
As a group, judging from survivor accounts and relatives, low intelligence was not their problem.
Yes, many were very intelligent. One couple gave up 21 homes they owned to Jim.
I was 11 years old living in Alabama when this happened.
I feel sadness for Jim Jones Son because to this day, he has extreme Guilt for something he didn’t even do. The 900 plus deaths I do hope God forgave all of them because they were MURDERED!!
@@boogitybear2283 Yup.
Who cares?
@@SorayaEsfandiary_ I care, now what?
Its some sick people through history ..
This what happens when you’re emerged in Idolatry. You’re suppose to respect a person’s oratory skills and gifts but never take a humans words or gifts as the end all be all. These are the results. 💯
I am inclined to disagree. This is what happens when everyone except you is responsible for your misery. That one woman on the death tape ticks me off. "It broke my heart to see them (14 people mind you) leave, mostly White people. If they dont care now they never will so I say we should kill ourselves". Woman in her 70's condems children to death bc those mean White people wouldnt stay, pathetic. This exact thing is currently the flavor of the month with the youth. They dont understand Socialism either but it sounds good. No system of government will matter to these people bc at the end of the day they are simply angry and a hug could have done wonders.
Well, said 🙏🏾
Lots of people (I would say most of us).have fellow human beings they idolize and want to emulate but that does not cause us to end our lives. The people in this cult did not join because they idolized jim jones,.they joined because it seemed easier to pretend to be a victim than actually trying and working out solutions to their problems. And once they did that, they got trapped in the systematic evil that he was. They even allowed jim jones to separate them from their own children and brainwash them into hating their own parents. They could not have done that out of their own free will.
I agree. Going against the most High will come with consequences.
@@phoradio1277 a “hug” wouldn’t have done shit. You’re simplistic in your delusions
45 Years Later. The Pain still Hurts.
Thank you for such great content. Please read John Judge's The Black Hole Of Guyana.
Thank you for the Upload...
His sister, Ruletta Brown, was the first person to go up and drink the poison according to witnesses.
She swiged the poison back like it was Jack Daniels. She gave it to her infant son to. Bitch.
First of the adults to drink? Because they made the babies/kids go first.
I’d never heard this info on Ruletta being the first
@@lilitaly6963 According to Odell Rhodes she went up with her baby, squirted poison in his mouth, drink some herself, then went and sat in a field to die.
I can't believe why the government didn't stop this monster or the congressman did not bring any protection with him. He should have hired an undercover policeman with him.
These folks were from all over, i found out some were even from my neighborhood.
The 1st man who talked his 2 sisters were Jocelyn Brown & Ruletta Paul. Ruletta was 1st to drink the poison & give it to her baby because her husband had ran away that morning with Richard Clark them. I always believed she went 1st because she her "man" didn't take her with him, however I understand him too because you couldn't trust no one!
The reporters asked some stupid questions.
the first one literally asked him the same questions over and over and couldn't comprehend s***!. im surprised he didn't just walk out on him lol
And none of this would be possible without the Great Jim Jones
They didn't drink it.
The media and the government were ruthless to those poor people.
That’s a supposition
the bit about a choice between drinking poison or dying is a bit problematic considering the obvious correlation between the two choices. No, those people killed their own children before they killed themselves. Were they brainwashed? Ummm.... I guess maybe they figured out that things weren't great when the Soviets were killing each other, or the Chinese, or the Cambodians, or the Cubans, or the North Koreans. When you're being forced to die might be a waking moment for even Communists. However, the people in jonestown were avowed communists. When you're being forced to drink poison is a bit too late to consider the ridiculousness of your ideology.
Our government did NOT handle this well. These people deserved better, they were charged for the phone call to get information, they were charged to pick up their relatives, they were charged for the funerals. Many of them didn't have the money for this (hence the reason why cremated remains were found in 2014 in a Dover funeral home). The woman was right, they were not given the respect they deserved as taxpayers. These poor families.
so sad he wasnt aware that everyone was dead, including Jones
I get the family's frustration, but they obviously had no idea what jungle conditions can do to a dead body. Within hours of being placed in the body bags, the victims were literally soup.
so tragic that Jones took advantage of all those people. I hope that the families did have the funerals taken care of.
Irony: Ruletta Brown-Paul was the very first to take poison w/her baby, Jocelin Brown-Carter, was the wife of Mike Carter one of the men who fled w/the money (Tim Carter's brother) those two women were the first to die :( They unfortunately lost their whole family
"Well, my brother's a little shaky.....y'know he's gay." Dear Lord.......'shaky', now that's one I haven't heard.
Heard that one. At least the dude was like “let him live his own life.”
Good man
What help did the followers families get they're loved ones home?
The U.S. government brought the bodies to Dover, Delaware. I'm not exactly sure, but I think the government paid for many of the burials.
Thank you dad
Hie said his mother tried to make his brother go because he is gay. He said let him live because you can’t change him.
There are many persons that use avenues to lure people who are desperate for relief from their afflictions. We all have times of depression, feeling lost, etc. However, we aren’t apart of a village of isolated persons who were led to believe their messiah is right in front of them.
I understand the people’s frustration at 13:51 about wanting the government to return their family members bodies, like they did senator Ryan’s, but truthfully… Leo Ryan’s body was much easier to identify. He was dead on a tarmac with only, like 3 other people dead near him. Their family members, were literally dead and buried under HUNDREDS of other people. At first, rescue teams only thought 400 people were dead (and were hopeful that the rest would be found alive hiding in the jungle), then freaked out upon realizing there were literally layers more of adults and also children, underneath the original 400 that had been counted. Some of those people were so badly decomposed from the elements, and the fact that they had been under the weight of other’s bodies, that they couldn’t be immediately identified.
I remember this tradedy like yesterday when it hit the news. I was almost 15 yrs old and it seems like there is always somebody I know of who have lost loved ones over there in Guyana. I dont know her name but I remember My Uncle saying that his wife's sister died over there 💔
Consequences of going against The Most High.
The house of yahweh of yisayl hawkins here in abilene texas is the same way .
How did his mama know all that??
This is wild..never heard about this
Omg really how old are you?
@@geniasmith5791 only 29
Only?
@@sjrilla3210 yes compare to 78...only
No way really where have you been
I'm OLDER now...I was 7yrs. old hearing THIS on the news.
THESE BLACK FOLKS (I'm Black) WERE TOO GODDAMNED GULLIBLE!!
FUCK.
I'M REALLY UPSET ABOUT THIS...AND have BEEN SINCE IT OCCURRED.
Exactly same thing with blm
The CIA is who.
Whatever happened to Larry Layton??
He was released from jail and, lives in Northern California. I'd send a hit squad to take of him.
Served a short prison sentence
This could happen again with Trump supporters! He has cult following.
MKUltra mind control to the core !!!
Omfg not this again.
Nothing to really bury but mush. Most likely they were too rotten to identify
o.j. simpson and his mother was there
Tell me more
@@juliantelles7884 his mother was a member til the end and connected to scientology....is all I know it's strange tho that celebs and high profile criminals are always crossing paths
@@valeriecoleman6480 I knew oj grew up in San Francisco I heard she was a nurse and that all the mental patients given to him jones were authorized by OJ mother
@@juliantelles7884 😳 what OMG...
@@juliantelles7884 Wow!
What was Pres. Jimmy Carter doing? He knew and supported Jim Jones.
You know how politicians are the vote it’s all about the vote
It was more Roslyn Carter. Harvey Milk of SF supported Jones to the end.
The people who went to Guyana were not "smart". The smart ones didn't go.
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black people seemed more educated back then. strange
You can’t be serious. Black people are more educated now than in the 60’s & 70’s.
I’m not speaking on book education. I’m talking morally socially ethics manners. Of course u won’t understand Costanza lol
He means on the grow floor and more than was told to us. Hood culture hasn't fully taken over yet
@@cladd9910 First off, you don’t know WHAT I understand.
People like you love romanticizing the past. These very people interviewed lived in a disenfranchised part of San Francisco called “The Fillmore”. Broken homes, OOW births and addiction plagued the Black community in 1978. If you read a couple of books, you’d know that.
These conditions are what caused Jim Jones Black followers to want to leave the states in the first place.
@@zaadrobinson182 Hood culture began in the 70’s. You think it didn’t exist because social media wasn’t around to broadcast it? Lmao. Please.