2023 Singapore Grand Prix Race Review | P1 Podcast

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  • @totalwasteofmytimee
    @totalwasteofmytimee ปีที่แล้ว +573

    I'm speaking as a hardcore Ferrari and Charles fan, I'm 1000% sure Charles wouldn't have won this race if he found himself in the same position as Carlos. Genuinely one of the most impressive displays of intelligence from a driver we've seen in such a stressful and delicate situation. What a performance from Carlos, WP

    • @mnbvmnbv54
      @mnbvmnbv54 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Totally agree. I think Charles would have went with the default Ferrari strat they had in mind. I also think Carlos may not have been totally onboard being a "sacrificial lamb" for the faster Ferrari 🥲

    • @totalwasteofmytimee
      @totalwasteofmytimee ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@mnbvmnbv54 yes, exactly. I hope this race can be a sort of a wake up call for Charles, because he may be a very rapid driver in all sorts of conditions (especially quali), but racecraft-wise Carlos clears him. It might be because of the extra experience that Sainz has over him but still, Charles has a lot to learn from Carlos if he wants to lead the team to a championship any time soon.

    • @kimi88cz
      @kimi88cz ปีที่แล้ว +36

      As a Charles fan, I agree. He has the upper hand when it comes to raw speed, but Carlos is smarter

    • @Whatreally123
      @Whatreally123 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      cos he has pace and nothing much else to think about strategy. He isn't a leader who can dictate terms to the team. I'd even hazard a guess that it would've been him instead of George to bin it.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The most intelligent racers rn are Fernando and Carlos.

  • @the_dented_NPC
    @the_dented_NPC ปีที่แล้ว +782

    Hard to believe, but Sainz led every lap from start to finish 😮

    • @davide_pgr
      @davide_pgr ปีที่แล้ว +123

      He missed out on a Grand Slam just for the fastest lap
      It would have been even more incredible😅

    • @nick4830
      @nick4830 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      Fans are really getting tired of Sainz dominance...

    • @mapleleafkay9824
      @mapleleafkay9824 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      They just talked about how he led 14 laps before that race! Now he’s at 76 lmfao

    • @trapeziumm
      @trapeziumm ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Carlos Sainz dominance could bore fans

    • @trapeziumm
      @trapeziumm ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Carlos Sainz dominance could bore fans

  • @louneissen1603
    @louneissen1603 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    Liam Lawson's performance in these past 3 races in those conditions with no preparation is just awesome.

    • @jastorman
      @jastorman ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I agree but I'm wary because that's what people said after Nick de Vries performance at Monza in 2022.

    • @Adjudicator1
      @Adjudicator1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Keep in mind this is Singapore Marina Bay street circuit, a very punishing circuit.

    • @foxgaming76yt24
      @foxgaming76yt24 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      ​@@jastormanthat was a single time in a car well suited to the circuit, but Lawson has proved himself over multiple circuits in a car that's been struggling through the whole season, even achieving points at a circuit that many describe being an incredibly tough one, so I'd think Lawson has much more merit imo. Maybe just a race or two more would prove his worth more, he needs time still.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jastorman Well, one race can be a fluke, but three...

    • @jastorman
      @jastorman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@foxgaming76yt24 Okay, but de Vries came into a car he had never driven and scored points, out qualifying and out racing Latifi (by a lap). Lawson drove the 2022 Alpha Tauri in a practice session. Not trying to take away from Lawson's achievement, it's a big achievement, just a little bit wary.

  • @28Saryvo
    @28Saryvo ปีที่แล้ว +64

    If Sainz didn't help Lando with the DRS then I am 100% certain that he would have been overtaken by both mercedes and knowing from the team radio that it was 100% his call to help Lando with the DRS to help himself just makes it such an intelligent drive.

  • @stevieboy666
    @stevieboy666 ปีที่แล้ว +658

    Can we please have Yuki make it to lap 2 for his home grand prix 😭

    • @nissan300ztt
      @nissan300ztt ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Best we can do is a DNF!

    • @tom.m
      @tom.m ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Doubly frustrating because it seems like he made a big step up in maturity this year, accepting raw talent isn't enough in F1 and getting stuck in to the hard work.
      And his reward is even more retirements...

    • @perfectfantasies
      @perfectfantasies ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@tom.m also frustrating because he had no car problems when it was bad but now that it can score points the last two races he doesn't even finish a single racing lap.

    • @SIXITHS
      @SIXITHS ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I wouldn't be surprised if Marko decided on a whim to sack him just before FP1.

    • @Trendyflute
      @Trendyflute ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It would be interesting to use him as a benchmark for Liam too. I have a feeling that Nyck got the worst of AT's performance slump in the first half of the year, and got kicked out just as they were improving. Liam's definitely an improvement (I think he's probably a future superstar) but he's also been a bit flattered by the car pace picking up, and being in the vacuum with Yuki's retirements, making his AT period a little hard to judge beyond saying he's at least competent.

  • @2jdm_UZZ40
    @2jdm_UZZ40 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Not only was Carlos smart but Lewis casually popping his visor open mid-battle to scratch his nose, with one hand on the steering wheel was impressive.

  • @kabuki7038
    @kabuki7038 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The thing I love the most about Albon is that you can hear in his voice during and after the races how he's simply relieved to be in the sport and seems to be driving to keep his seat every race. I have so much admiration for that level of grinding

  • @sweetswing
    @sweetswing ปีที่แล้ว +83

    The first half is just tyre saving parade, but the second half is freaking awesome

    • @elplan3605
      @elplan3605 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tbh the ending alone usually makes a great race. Spa 2008 for example, nothing happened untill the last 5 laps and it's a classic

    • @zqzj
      @zqzj ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I almost turned off the race and was just going to watch highlights. Glad I had hope lol

  • @thesamaffliction1572
    @thesamaffliction1572 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Carlos this weekend proved so many people wrong. I always thought he was underrated because of his world class teammates hes had. But this weekend he proved us that he has it should the car be realiable and capable. I actually think race pace merc were quicker but he was so meassured, controlled and bascially lead the entire race on 95% pace to llok after the car and give himself thinking time to use his stratergy to his advantage. The last few years he's shown glimpses of his racing brain, but its been overlooked by him using it to overrule his team's calls or his great plans been messed by reliablity or bad decisions on the pit wall. But this race gave him time to shine and my god that was insane. Yes Max is the best driver on the grid right now but I'm almost more impressed by him winning so controlled under such pressure than max just gapping the field by a minute becuase hes the quickest

    • @noelckelly
      @noelckelly ปีที่แล้ว

      He does have it, but only occasionally. Maybe it is, as you say, because the car hasn't always been reliable and capable, but I've never seen enough consistency from him to be truly world-class. For me, LeClerc has a question mark over his head with regards to being world-class for this same reason. He's had only 2 wins in 8 years, both in the most recent two seasons. Let's see if he can push forward now.

    • @thesamaffliction1572
      @thesamaffliction1572 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@noelckelly Oh yeah I think you’re right his consistency hasn’t been as good as others but still more so than his teammate so far this year

    • @fallenshallrise
      @fallenshallrise ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder if Carlos has found it. He seems to be using his brain a lot more now, thinking through things in the long term rather than just reacting in the moment. Makes sense with the experience he has now. All the drivers, hopefully, have this moment where they figure out to take what is given and not to rob themselves with a big mistake.

    • @thesamaffliction1572
      @thesamaffliction1572 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fallenshallrise In his defence I think we’ve seen evidence of that elsewhere in his career especially at McLaren and Ferrari but he was let down either by slight mistakes by reaching the limit or his team/car letting him down and not allowing him to use tactics he knows will work best

    • @joshn1678
      @joshn1678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100%, Carlos impressed me more in singapore than Max has all season. This is not to slander max, but it's easy to win in the best car as one of the best drivers ever and with absolutely no competition, obviously, what Carlos did was just incredible thinking on the fly, Mercedes were absolutely hunting him down, and he had the presence of mind to keep Lando in drs range without his team saying anything to him which without a doubt saved him from being p3. George and Lewis would have flown by Lando, then flown by Carlos.

  • @kimi88cz
    @kimi88cz ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Been watching F1 for 22 years. This was the smartest drive I can remember. Sainz is the new Prost

    • @quarkinjapan
      @quarkinjapan ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Definitely got Prost vibes from his drive!

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      The Carlos/Charles dynamic is very similar to that of Prost/Senna yes.

    • @iplayeddsharpminor
      @iplayeddsharpminor ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Funny how they called out the quote of Prost saying “try and win the race as slowly as possible” and that is EXACTLY what transpired :’)

    • @elplan3605
      @elplan3605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was smart for sure but it's not the first time someone has used that tactic. It was clear that keeping Norris in DRS was his only chance and he executed that perfectly

    • @eugenux
      @eugenux ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly

  • @xmatterdaily
    @xmatterdaily ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I want to say, the track changes, negating Redbull, Ferrari's strategy, Mercedes's curve ball, Sains and Lando double team, George's fate, tyre deg at the end all together it was enthralling Race. Got me hooked all the way.

  • @logjam22
    @logjam22 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Carlos the BEAST, what an amazing race.

  • @Sheudful
    @Sheudful ปีที่แล้ว +86

    piastri seems to be doing so well people forgot hes a rookie too and only counting logan and lawson :D

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood ปีที่แล้ว +5

      All three rookies showed promise this weekend. Lawson and Piastri for obvious reasons but Logan, despite his Albon copying mistake, would close a 30-40 second gap after the first safety car and held off and beat Alonso.

    • @SpeedyCM
      @SpeedyCM ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah so surprised they never mentioned Piastri once in the podcast, going from 17th to 7th he was the real driver of the day.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@SpeedyCMSo much stuff happened that he ended up being forgotten. Gasly as well.

    • @pipower314159265
      @pipower314159265 ปีที่แล้ว

      It has to be because the McLaren is now so much better than the Williams and AT.

    • @jochemgies223
      @jochemgies223 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@pipower314159265it's also because piastri's gap to Lando Is close

  • @TacticalBunnyCA
    @TacticalBunnyCA ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think Lando specifically was a factor in Carlos strategy. Yes Carlos likes Lando more then some other drivers and would be more keen to help out Lando but more specifically Carlos knows how well Lando can hold off other drivers ergo he had a tremendous level of confidence in Lando. I'm sure there are plenty of other driver ( Alonso for example) who Carlos would have done the same thing but other who he would have left far behind having to take his reduced chances on his own with no confidence in the driver behind to do his part (cough, cough, Stroll left in the dust for example, cough).

  • @peterfconley
    @peterfconley ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sainz drove in a manner that ought to make Alonso proud. Carlos is _dialed in_ at the moment.

  • @GEUB
    @GEUB ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Zhou went the long distance with the hard tyres, and gained 7 positions

    • @smallgodguido
      @smallgodguido ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was watching the live timing when he pit early and I thought he would never catch up

    • @D.H.1987
      @D.H.1987 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@smallgodguido... to all this energy that i've mustered

    • @mifphilip
      @mifphilip ปีที่แล้ว

      Verstappen gained 6

    • @Aluminator82
      @Aluminator82 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Piastri 10!!!

    • @GEUB
      @GEUB ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Aluminator82 Yes! But everybody noticed that. The Alfas were ignored. Bottas didn't had a bad race, was bad luck with the safety car, he started on hards as well as the RBs

  • @jamesf3980
    @jamesf3980 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I've always said that Carlos had more to give than Charles. I'm glad that he's finally starting to show what he can do when he drives his own races.

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      still think Charles has more raw pace in a pointy car with understeer, but Carlos is more well rounded and tactically/mentally stronger.

    • @VHBEngines
      @VHBEngines ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@daarom3472that pace don't amount for much when he consistently points the car into the wall

    • @xfreja
      @xfreja ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VHBEngines”consistently” 💀 it’s not even that common. you mfs are so persistent and annoying

    • @jensen8216
      @jensen8216 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VHBEnginesit’s always felt like Charles has the higher ceiling but less consistency, but now Carlos is matching that ceiling and is still more consistent lmao. Tough days for leclerc fans

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VHBEnginesthat’s why Sainz almost finished 6th last season isn’t it. Maybe beaching the car in the gravel doesn’t help either.

  • @zenomony
    @zenomony ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Lando couldnt have pit, because the only reason the Mercedes could is that they had an extra set of mediums, which Lando didn't have

  • @KINGREAPER950
    @KINGREAPER950 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    That carlos play was on level with alonso's race craft. They must put something in a Spanish breakfast

    • @t.w.falconer3952
      @t.w.falconer3952 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Must be all that tappas...🤣

    • @yonnymestampo8389
      @yonnymestampo8389 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Carlos has said some times in interviews that watching Alonso is what made him want to become an F1 driver and has him as a role model. Carlos Sainz Sr was a WRC driver and knew Alonso from his early years, introduced his son Carlos Sainz Jr like 15 or 20 years ago to Alonso. Alonso has been his teacher when it comes to reaching F1.

  • @gentlemanjunkie7864
    @gentlemanjunkie7864 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why does everyone forget Carlos beat Charles in 2021? He’s not JUST coming into his own this year; how many times was he instructed to not pass Charles? How many times did Ferrari give Charles an advantage by putting him first? Several times this year alone…

  • @fallenshallrise
    @fallenshallrise ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a proper old-school style race. A chaotic start and then a long build of tension until some critical strategy calls. Faster drivers applying pressure on the driver ahead hoping to force a mistake. Drivers on old tires defending hard tooth-and-nail to keep their position.

  • @csarcpab
    @csarcpab ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Gettting into Q3 knowing you knocked out the current wolrd champion, amazing job from Liam! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @GrandTheftHollow
    @GrandTheftHollow ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Everything against him, Max still ended p5, absolute enigma. Such a long overdue race, with the team that made me fall in love with the sport, Forza Ferrari!

    • @BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69
      @BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB69 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      With his pace and strategy, minus the safety and vsc he could have won.

  • @BoredAndSarcastic
    @BoredAndSarcastic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys need to interview the GOAT, Liam Lawson. He is the MVP of this race for knocking Max out in Q2 so we could get this great ending.

  • @tolulopeoluleye5302
    @tolulopeoluleye5302 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Loved your reaction to Sainz Win..Great from you guys

  • @heretustay
    @heretustay ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was already a fan of Carlos from the Carlando era, but this race has solidified him as my hands-down favorite of anyone on the current grid. I hope we see many more wins for him in the future. What a driver

  • @YourLoyalDeserter
    @YourLoyalDeserter ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think even in the moment Sainz knew he got a lucky at Silverstone. It was his first win, and yet he didn't do Smooth Operator over the radio. This time he did, and he called it his first smooth operation at Ferrari.

    • @formulagaming7049
      @formulagaming7049 ปีที่แล้ว

      then the sky commentators were saying that this was his first win in ferrari

  • @mrthewhite2620
    @mrthewhite2620 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It was really funny watching this finale because as soon as he asked for Lando's times every lap thr Sky peesenters were saying "hes worrying about the wrong car, he should be thinking about merc," and the first thing that popped into mh head is "is he trying to create a DRS train?" I feel like the sky presenters neved gave him thr credit for that strategy caise they were still wondering during the interview if he did it on purpose or not.

    • @kolpakken3441
      @kolpakken3441 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      The sky presenters were too busy figuring out the last time 3 Brit’s were on the podium to recognize the genius of what Sainz was doing.

    • @scottwisner5831
      @scottwisner5831 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly what I thought too. Create a DRS train to protect his lead. Something Alex Albon does.

    • @mcgoo721
      @mcgoo721 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I feel like the f1tv guys were on it though. I knew what he was up to from the off haha

    • @xtheamazingax
      @xtheamazingax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kolpakken3441 they always are biased and incompetent fools at Sky F1. Oh and to put it out there: Bernie Collins has nothing to offer to anybody.

    • @greenlantern7959
      @greenlantern7959 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Never mind Carlos’ radio message that letting Lando into DRS was “on purpose”. Smartest drive I’ve seen in a long time

  • @Twhyte96
    @Twhyte96 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    People seem to forget but Carlos’ first year at Ferrari he beat Charles, it wasn’t a huge talking point and Charles got unlucky a lot but if he wins this year that’ll be 2/3 years Sainz has won vs his teammate

    • @julianschwertzthewoodlands4161
      @julianschwertzthewoodlands4161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm calling it now...Sainz will beat Leclerc 2-1. These past two races are really going to mess with Leclerc's head. He's going to be desperate to prove he's still the Ferrari top dog, and we all know how well he does when he's under pressure and starts pushing too hard.

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People forgot that Sainz almost finished 6th in a title challenging car.
      Imagine if any actual WDC or Leclerc, Russell had that kind of performance. Even Kimi and Bottas performed better.

  • @surfpaddletravel
    @surfpaddletravel ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched the last lap, on my feet, jumping up and down! And screaming

  • @mifphilip
    @mifphilip ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Honestly don't think Max was a flop. He was superfast and made up loads of positions before the safety car. And after he pitted late in the race, he went from 15th to 5th and was gaining 18 seconds on Leclerc in 4 laps.
    He might not have won, but did his best with the position he started in on a circuit known for being hard and almost impossible to overtake on.

    • @Nadia-nm2uw
      @Nadia-nm2uw ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Agreed! It was refreshing to see a non-RB winner, I’ll admit. But Max did what he always does and got everything possible out of that car. Drives like this solidify in my mind why he’s such an incredible driver - we’ve also seen similar drives from Alonso and Hamilton this season. Even when the car is not at its best, you can rely on him to get the most out of it. I’d say this weekend the car was a flop, but Max wasn’t.

    • @jgbains
      @jgbains ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Max fan boy primarily due to ocon and Russell binning it

    • @Nadia-nm2uw
      @Nadia-nm2uw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jgbains Do you feel better about yourself when you throw comments around like that? Lando’s my fave driver, but it makes it so hard to just enjoy the sport and praise a driver I respect when people immediately say “Max fan boy.” I wasn’t even criticizing any other driver. Leave me alone lol.

    • @mifphilip
      @mifphilip ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jgbains if Ocon hadn't binned it, Max would have overtaken way faster. And might even have got a podium. And max was lapping 3.5 seconds faster than Leclerc in the end, but he had to slow due to the yellow flag brought out by Russel. He was 0.2 from Leclerc when they passed the finish line.

    • @jgbains
      @jgbains ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mifphilip ok max fab boy ..even if I agree to your logic …he still lost to an alpha tauri in qualifying because the race showed at is clearly very slow

  • @abventure7553
    @abventure7553 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Carlos has arrived as someone with Championship potential.

  • @vedranb87
    @vedranb87 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Yuki had an absolute beef with RedBull this weekend. :D
    First Verstappen impeded him in quali (was it twice even), and then Checo in the race. :D

    • @mm9492
      @mm9492 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Checo was horrible i tell you. What he did to Albon was criminal

    • @8tonystark8
      @8tonystark8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mm9492 Checo can't concentrate because he is south american

    • @mm9492
      @mm9492 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@8tonystark8 😀😀😀

    • @Bolero6879
      @Bolero6879 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@8tonystark8for those who don’t get the joke, this is something helmut marko said about checo

  • @tommy96705
    @tommy96705 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great race - something which made it so thrilling compared to the previous ones was the fact we had diergent strategies because of the vsc. It's rare these days to have a mix of strategies for us to watch play out

  • @YourLoyalDeserter
    @YourLoyalDeserter ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There have been times when being a Carlos/Carlando fan has been tough. This was the best thing I could ever have hoped for.

  • @vrccb
    @vrccb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brilliant stuff. and OH what a sensational race for Carlos and Lando. Heart rate still not settled.

  • @StephenMorganCanada
    @StephenMorganCanada ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Carlos has been criminally underrated for too long, especially by Ferrari who put him in a role he dutifully played, of being the number two driver. He should have been number one from day one IMHO.

  • @Taylor___
    @Taylor___ ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Russell had every right to challenge Lando but they only had 3-4 laps left to do it. Switching would have been harsh. They should have boxed one of the Mercedes (Lewis) the second a car stopped on track knowing they'd be a safety car. He would have come out ahead of everyone.

    • @45tanviirahmed82
      @45tanviirahmed82 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      after double stacking for mediums under VSC, Lewis got out of pitlane having George more than 5.2 seconds ahead at end of lap 46.
      8 laps later, At lap 54, He was in DRS zone just behind George. Roughly filled 4.2 seconds in just 8 lap means Lewis was half a second faster than George in each lap, They' should've swaped right then(in around 55-56 lap)
      Lewis would hunt down Lando easily(if failed, he would've give the position back, He has done it before to Bottas in Hungary), then go for Sainz or slow dowm lando to help George for P3.
      That would be proper team game.

    • @sakethedpuganti5697
      @sakethedpuganti5697 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@45tanviirahmed82Hamilton only caught up to Russell cause he was slowed down by Norris. He was faster, but not half a second faster.

    • @sadikurrahman4833
      @sadikurrahman4833 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sakethedpuganti5697no he didn’t
      He got fastest lap before Russell was even close to leclerc
      Look at the excuses already lol

    • @cg_2k72
      @cg_2k72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@45tanviirahmed82not how that works buddy. Lewis only needed to catch up to Russell. That’s why he could push. George on the other hand had to manage his tyres so he could pass everyone and deal with the dirty air. Once Lewis was in Russell’s DRS he could benefit from Russell forcing the others into defensive lines. (Like he did with Charles).
      Once they get past Leclerc, they have the same lap times until Russell is in the dirty air of Norris and Sainz.

    • @Ash-1803
      @Ash-1803 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cg_2k72 Lewis' tyres were literally better at the end compared to Russell what are you on about?

  • @Kaspa969
    @Kaspa969 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Honestly, we are very lucky that Sargeant crashed. If there was no SC then after first turn of pitstops (from mediums/softs to hards) RedBull would be on the front with a few seconds gap and they were very fast on those mediums later on, especially Verstappen. Would've been even worse if they waited 3 laps with the pit stops for the VSC. So thanks to Sargeant we didn't have a RedBull win.

    • @ElectricPrincess100
      @ElectricPrincess100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The Hero we needed in the moment

    • @mrthewhite2620
      @mrthewhite2620 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I don't think that's the case. If you look at the finishing times, Max was still way back from the top 3 even if you adjust the pitstop times, at least 10 sec back from Lewis.

    • @Drekz38
      @Drekz38 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeau but they lost about 30 Seconds with the safety car@@mrthewhite2620

    • @noelckelly
      @noelckelly ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mrthewhite2620 they found themselves in a field of cars with brand new tyres with old hards. The SC really screwed around with their strategy. Without it, they'd have had Verstappen leading for some laps before pitting and maybe dropping a couple places before having a sprint to the end and possibly another race win. As it was, by the time they had to change the hards, they hadn't really created a gap and dropped back farther than they'd hoped.

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And he would go on to close the gap to the pack despite being 30-40 seconds behind when green flag conditions came back. He even held off and beat Alonso somehow.

  • @arisimmonds5905
    @arisimmonds5905 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What a race. A reminder how good f1 can be. Good job on the red bull jinxing guys! Finally worked

  • @MisaelCastilloBrenes
    @MisaelCastilloBrenes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Welcome to the P5 Podcast with Matt and Tommy!

  • @son_of_mxry
    @son_of_mxry ปีที่แล้ว +12

    All aboard The Carlos Sainz hype-Train for being a Championship caliber driver 🚂

    • @BoredAndSarcastic
      @BoredAndSarcastic ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have been on board since the beginning

    • @paperplane-db8qf
      @paperplane-db8qf ปีที่แล้ว

      A championship caliber driver would put up a championship battle in the 2022 car instead of getting beaten by an uncompetitive Mercedes.

  • @AjTengu
    @AjTengu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think a lot of people saw Sainz as a driver just outside of the Top drivers when in reality he has been as good as Leclerc for a long time. This performance really solidified that he’s worth his salt.

  • @joshn1678
    @joshn1678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mines gone floppy lol, greatest way to end a podcast. Well done boys, great episode after a great race.

  • @liukin95
    @liukin95 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we talk about the fact that Piastri and Lawson both scored their first F1 points at their third time of asking (Piastri in Melbourne & Lawson in Singapore), they both scored points here in Singapore, and Logan Sargeant is still yet to score a point in his rookie season? Williams will be VERY generous if they let him have that seat again for next year!

  • @jacksteven781
    @jacksteven781 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Russell chose the quali trim, Hamilton chose the race trim. They should've allowed Lewis ahead and let Russell back if Hamilton can't overtake. he overtook Leclerc so much easier.

    • @sakethedpuganti5697
      @sakethedpuganti5697 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hamilton should've chosen quali trim as well, if he wanted track position. Russell didn't choose his setup and win track position so he can simply move over for other drivers

  • @pranc236
    @pranc236 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I think lewis had more tires than george at the end. George was pushing the whole time. Carlos did a great job

    • @NbrackA06
      @NbrackA06 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Both pitted at the same time… Lewis caught Russell by the time Russell caught them. To switch would be harsh but Lewis wins that race…

    • @pranc236
      @pranc236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NbrackA06 i know, im saying lewis was better on his tires than george. Thats why he had more.

    • @TangoNevada
      @TangoNevada ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Mercedes doesn't just pick LH as the #1 Driver, they will suffer when they get more competitive.

    • @TheZimbeatz
      @TheZimbeatz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NbrackA06 Thats exactly my sentiments even as a Lewis fan. you couldnt switch cars in that moment but when Hamilton smells blood, he's a different animal. George was pansying around with Lando for 5 laps...

    • @kavos99
      @kavos99 ปีที่แล้ว

      An option is to let Lewis through and if he doesn’t pass lando then give the place back to George before the end of race.

  • @pbl0_o
    @pbl0_o ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:47 and I'm pretty sure Lando didn't have an spare set of fresh tyres like the Mercedes did.

  • @lostcharmander
    @lostcharmander ปีที่แล้ว +16

    them realising the podcast on monday just shows how exciting the race was.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isn't the podcast always on Monday?

    • @reina.0_0
      @reina.0_0 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean it was already on Spotify

  • @Ewanl31
    @Ewanl31 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Sainz had an amazing race, showing he is the real No. 1 driver at Ferrari, great work to get the win.
    Lando is getting ever closer to his own first win. George Russell drove really well also but seemed to be pushing too hard and his tyres looked terrible compared to Lewis Hamilton.
    Possibly how they drive. George is unlucky in the end but it's this that makes the difference between the top drivers and the rest of the field. I'm sure George will learn as he will need to quickly if he makes these types of mistakes when under pressure he will fall into the same trap Charles Leclerc has.

  • @BelegCuthali0n
    @BelegCuthali0n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Lawson is doing an incredible job, but there are a couple of things that have to be taken into account. First is that the AT has gotten massive upgrades in recent races that have been a significant improvement to the car De Vries has driven in (and may have been partially brought about by his feedback in the first half of the season).
    Secondly Lawson has had the advantage that, even though he is new to the F1 car, he has been racing in a very competitive super formula series this season. Not only that, but he has been in a fierce battle for the championship from the start. I really think that helps as it gives you an edge of sharpness in pure racecraft over drivers who have been away from active racing for a while, like Ricciardo was or even Piastri at the start of this season.
    Now having said that, I do believe he has done an amazing job so far. Even if there wasn't much pressure of expectation on him so far, there was the added pressure of the knowledge that this may be his only chance to prove himself and earn a seat. He has handled that brilliantly, but we have to be careful not to overhype him so much (like we did with De Vries) that it becomes an almost impossible challenge to meet those expectations.

  • @Martin-uj6zn
    @Martin-uj6zn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great show guys, always enjoy your insight as someone who doesnt understand F1 and all its intricacies as much as you.

  • @billgross1719
    @billgross1719 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    HOT TAKE: For all the criticisms people like Seargant, Mick Schumacher, Latifi, Stroll get for their bad performances and being crash-happy, F1 needs these drivers for the chaos and strategy implications that come with their inevitable crashes and Safety Cars and Res Flags. People say this season has been boring, but what has changed from last year.... no Latifi and no Mick means the number of race interuptions has dropped sigificantly which would allow the field to close back up again and bring strategy adaptability in to play.

    • @JnManuelAG
      @JnManuelAG ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Say it louder. Maybe this time I agree to bring back to crashmacher just to bring back the red flags 😂

    • @JamesBD05
      @JamesBD05 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@JnManuelAGwas with you until that nickname; don't be a child

  • @fredgoodyer4907
    @fredgoodyer4907 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m probably biased as a Sainz fan, but I don’t think the gap Ferrari asked of Leclerc was to protect Sainz but to protect Leclerc’s brakes (and for the possibility of a double stacked pit stop). I think we saw that the best strategy to protect Sainz was to have Leclerc within DRS!

  • @arposkraft3616
    @arposkraft3616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kinda feel like people completely forgot rookie piastri this race, his qualification was out in q1 but he drove very well to end up taking p7 end of the race

  • @ArkhamSith
    @ArkhamSith ปีที่แล้ว

    The words for Sainz genius at the back end of the race is Pure Race Craft

  • @nealsidhu2697
    @nealsidhu2697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last 3 races have been the best 3 races of the season!

  • @Syrilian
    @Syrilian ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was definitely the best race of the season.

  • @quantumodality
    @quantumodality ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Matt wants to make as many videos on this race coz he doesn't know when next will he get another chance 🤣

    • @JacopoBasanisi
      @JacopoBasanisi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Something different than usual revives interest. That's coincidentally why they change regulations to the dominators' disadvantage every now and then

  • @shannonoliver6688
    @shannonoliver6688 ปีที่แล้ว

    Singapore simply illustrated how exciting reverse grid Sprints could be and the vision these new regs are trying to achieve.

  • @steveneven2682
    @steveneven2682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was also thinking is that Mercedes might be much more occupied defending from Lando to attack if Lando pitted. Mercedes would probs have to follow team orders of someone holding Lando off so they could pursue Carlos. Then maybe once they’re at the fron the other Mercedes can move forward. That’s just another possible strategy though

  • @harrydgdv
    @harrydgdv ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm tiered of this Sainz domination 😔

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lawson's start in F1 seems way better than Sainz' in the same team. In 2015, the car was arguably better than now in 2023, and Sainz had a whole winter to prepare with the team. It then took Sainz half a season to book his first on-track overtake, and it was on a GP2 engine driven by his friend Fernando.

  • @wbravenboer
    @wbravenboer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a Max fan, still very happy for Carlos and Lando (and Matt!)

  • @zarethd
    @zarethd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The one thing I think people really underestimate is that Super formula IS FASTER than f2, and liam lawson is competitive in super formula, so its arguably the better feeder series

  • @PetrosTheBullet
    @PetrosTheBullet ปีที่แล้ว

    11:50 people forget that the only reason the mercedes duo was so fast after the pit, is because they had the free pitstop and brand new mediums. Although Carlos idea was brilliant and it most definitely helped him win, many other factors helped his win. The ferrari strategy was spot on, as they did not have new mediums or softs and it was very risky with the mercedes undercutting them on the out lap if they did. Same thing with McLaren and Norris 15:30.
    The factor i was talking about was the fact that both Carlos and Norris realised they had to work together in order to get 1-2. If Norris tries to pass Carlos, it creates a lot of opportunities for the mercedes to pass them both and If Carlos tries to open up a gap and try to save himself, his fall would be inevitable.
    Both McLaren and Ferrari got it right with their strategies and the Mercedes risk did not pay off (and im glad for it)

  • @__-lt4hm
    @__-lt4hm ปีที่แล้ว

    With Lawson, we should also acknowledge the contribution of the super formula series, that is completely underrated.

  • @FoggyMcFogFace
    @FoggyMcFogFace ปีที่แล้ว

    "Michael Masi-ing" should be a term any time someone tries to actively influence a contest just to make it closer at the end

  • @ellatrue5605
    @ellatrue5605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Singapore was the first F1 race I’ve watched! Glad I didn’t miss it!

  • @hamza-chaudhry
    @hamza-chaudhry ปีที่แล้ว

    7:20 I noticed that too
    32:45 Same with Tsunoda
    36:18 38:22 39:06 Alonso had damage
    43:35 Thank you Tommy

  • @jojow8513
    @jojow8513 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another point on the 'should Lando have pitted' conversation - the Mercs had new medium tyres left, the McLaren only had hards. Given the hard tyres took a few laps to get up to speed, he would potentially have been vulnerable to Hamilton and might even have ended P3 or P4 if there hadn't been time for all 3 to get Carlos.

  • @markeschen
    @markeschen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did George use up more of his tires catching and passing LeClerc, which made Hamilton stronger once he got by too?

  • @janiceclayton3538
    @janiceclayton3538 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great episode! 💪🏽

  • @cmarinagis1
    @cmarinagis1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    carlos was just brilliant and sensational!! i still cant believe the racecraft he pulled out !!

    • @cmarinagis1
      @cmarinagis1 ปีที่แล้ว

      also the carlando teamwork was amazing!! lando made an amaazing defend!!!

  • @nomar5spaulding
    @nomar5spaulding ปีที่แล้ว

    Perez drove that race like he was playing the old Star Wars Episode I Racer game. He just fucking smashing into people left, right, and center and ram-rodding his was to overtakes.

  • @suszifenton4712
    @suszifenton4712 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a race!!! a shame for Charles I think with the timing of the pit stop as I would have loved a ferarri 1 2 or ferarri sandwich on podium but as a whole what a phenomenal race

  • @Wild-Duck
    @Wild-Duck ปีที่แล้ว

    Heading Tom and Matty talk about what's technically is a dnf is exactly the reason why F1 has so many rules 😂

  • @Uno.Numero
    @Uno.Numero ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Carlos was Max's strongest team mate.

    • @robh9577
      @robh9577 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He really was.

  • @thesamaffliction1572
    @thesamaffliction1572 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still can't get over the fact Matt's intro is missing 2 syllables. It's been like 8 months but I can't yet

  • @Erik_The_Viking
    @Erik_The_Viking ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Liam Lawson should definitely get a race seat. He's been doing a great job. Logan might be losing his seat.

  • @newsmithyoutube
    @newsmithyoutube ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Why didn't Leclerc get a penalty for slowing down the cars in the SC phase? Didn't Lando get one in Canada for that?

    • @xtheamazingax
      @xtheamazingax ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No idea… but he created his own penalty in a way.

    • @newsmithyoutube
      @newsmithyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xtheamazingax True

    • @78drea
      @78drea ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@xtheamazingaxTrue, but Lando did that too and got a penalty for 'unsportsmanlike behaviour' on top - which cost him points in Canada.
      So, unconsistency again... a shame.

    • @xtheamazingax
      @xtheamazingax ปีที่แล้ว

      @@78drea a predictable shame, sadly. Cos that's how the FIA work...

  • @t.w.falconer3952
    @t.w.falconer3952 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I'm a Max Verstappen fan, but at the end of the race I had a cramp in my jaws from a big old smile on my face that lasted 10+ laps. What a race!!!

    • @dushandvr5765
      @dushandvr5765 ปีที่แล้ว

      We would watch this almost every race if not for your red bull and Max.

    • @Tekkas_GG
      @Tekkas_GG ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dushandvr5765correct. But let's not blame rb and Verstappen for that 🙏

    • @dushandvr5765
      @dushandvr5765 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tekkas_GG It's not him, it is darn red bull cheaters.

    • @Tekkas_GG
      @Tekkas_GG ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dushandvr5765 going by your logic, pretty much every F1 team is a cheater. Get a grip mate.

    • @dushandvr5765
      @dushandvr5765 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tekkas_GG Whoever is that dominant is a cheater. That kind of dominance is impossible in any sport except F1.

  • @davidpippin86
    @davidpippin86 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Max Verstappen showed how amazing he is. He almost ended up P4 in a car that was sliding on ice most of the race. P5 was better than anyone else would have gotten in that car.

    • @NemysisPrime
      @NemysisPrime ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah... He made up 13 seconds on Charles within 2 laps.. That's how fast he closed the gap

    • @kieranm2514
      @kieranm2514 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NemysisPrimeBecause his tires were gone

    • @trilbyygames
      @trilbyygames ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He ended 21 secs off the lead. He lost ~16 secs in the safety car, and then however much he lost going through the field. Not even a max fan but I'm pretty sure he wins that race if there is no safety car, and if not at least gets a podium.

    • @pablovasquez83
      @pablovasquez83 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he would've been battling for first had it not been for the SC and the horrible strategy

    • @chriscollins550
      @chriscollins550 ปีที่แล้ว

      Red bull didn't have the tyers. After the first pit stop on hards they only had used one's left. Max wouldn't of got in front of the Mercedes by that point he's tyers was gone.

  • @eugenux
    @eugenux ปีที่แล้ว +10

    deVries vs Lawson.. not wanting to take anything from Lawson, the current AT has 100 upgraded parts over the AT deVries had. Also, in the last 3 races just before being kicked out, he started to look almost decent.. with the occasionally Q1 or Q2 faster than Tsunoda. Honestly, I don't question the guy's talent or driving skills.. I just think everything was too much for him, emotionally and from a pressure POV and he just couldn't handle it.
    deVries from this year didn't look at all like deVries from last year.

    • @georgythomas8451
      @georgythomas8451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      On top of it Lawson is a product of the RedBull Academy, so he probably grew up with this kind of pressure and also knows how to deal with the RB environment

    • @LeJimster
      @LeJimster ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lawson scored a better result than De Vries and Ricciardo in that car at Monza already. This was pre-upgrade. I personally wanted Lawson in that seat from the start of the season, but I can't deny that De Vries did a great job in his Williams audition. I feel De Vries would have been better off staying at Williams if it had been a choice however.

    • @eugenux
      @eugenux ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@LeJimsteryep, I agree. Albon and deVries would have been a good combo...and maybe a better combo than w/ Sargent.. although, I do cheer for the guy and hope at every race that he will have his brakethrough points.

  • @BollocksFilmReviews
    @BollocksFilmReviews ปีที่แล้ว

    The race management by Sainz was insane!!

  • @Surfsaus
    @Surfsaus ปีที่แล้ว +21

    You mentioned Lawson's performance which was good but Piastri's from 18th(due to Stroll) to 7th on a track he hasn't driven before with a McLaren that didn't get upgrades was pretty damn impressive. If Piastri got the upgrades he would have finished on the podium most likely. McLaren now going out of their way to decrease Piastri's points. If that continues next year he needs to get out of McLaren end of 2024 when out of contract. The Aston Martin seat should free up end of next year when hopefully they get rid of Stroll.

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Piastri is the number 2 driver cause he's a rookie. They're going to favor the experienced lando. But they are not sabotaging his race, for an example of how to do that look at red bull and Perez or Ferrari's normal strategy.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Established drivers always get the upgrades first.

    • @Nadia-nm2uw
      @Nadia-nm2uw ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s a big stretch to say McLaren’s “going out of their way” to decrease Oscar’s points. Why on earth would they do that? That helps no one. McLaren is introducing so many upgrades this year because they’re playing catch-up in the development department. The team only produced enough parts for one car to get all the upgrades in Singapore. Every race counts in their constructors battle, so obviously they wouldn’t wait a whole race to put on the upgrades just so both cars could get them at the same time. They need to maximize every single weekend. And in this case, Oscar’s never raced in Singapore before so it makes sense for his focus to be around learning and getting comfortable with the track. He did a brilliant job. And he’ll get the upgrades in Japan. It might not seem “fair” but this kind of stuff happens in F1. And it’s not like either of them are in a tight drivers championship battle. It’s about maximizing points for the team as a whole.

  • @Tacoplane91
    @Tacoplane91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has like NO ONE noticed that Perez just didn’t have an endplate for the entire race

  • @rhinohippo55
    @rhinohippo55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If Russell weren't there Hammy would definitely went like a super hammer time and won the grand prix

  • @abel6846
    @abel6846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last P5 for Max was British GP 2019.

  • @trevorhintz1290
    @trevorhintz1290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice seeing 1st to 4th separated by about 3 seconds instead of Verstappen up by about 20 on 2nd.

  • @johnturner4400
    @johnturner4400 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    15:34. No. Only Mercedes had a new set of mediums. If lando had boxed he would have been overtaken by the Mercedes.

  • @thepeacekpr
    @thepeacekpr ปีที่แล้ว

    The thing I didn't understand in the first lap of the race is Why Hamilton had to give position back to Lando? He passed him on the track fairly and he was well ahead of him before taking the escape road.

  • @TOTTDOG8185
    @TOTTDOG8185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy winter break/2024 season prediction is Lawson is brought on as RBR test and reserve (similar to Schumachers current role with Merc), Perez continues his downward fall into 2024 and is replaced by Ricciardo early in the season who was still with AT, Lawson is brought in to AT to race alongside Yuki for the remainder of 2024 and at the end of the season Yuki signs with Aston Martin with Alonso for 2025 after Stroll retires, Iwasa is signed to race with Lawson at AT in 2025

  • @saint.vitus.7775
    @saint.vitus.7775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didn't Carlos outscore Charles their first year together at Ferrari?

  • @c-pw8fc
    @c-pw8fc ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Merc were able to be so fast because they had a fresh set of mediums as they took 1 less set of softs than the other drivers. I think Norris didn't have any fresh Mediums available so even if he was ahead of Russel, I don't think he would have had the pace.

  • @Remsterdam
    @Remsterdam ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved to see others fight for the win for a change. Love the channel, the fan-boy angle is funny but make sure you are lovers of the sport first. Matt still has red ears from the race, Tommy is more nuanced and it shows in noticing what happens at all the teams.

  • @WillowCreative
    @WillowCreative ปีที่แล้ว

    perez also hit lawson and overtook him off the track in the last few laps

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute ปีที่แล้ว +1

    re: Carlos and Charles, I'm of the opinion that "Carlos is struggling" and "Charles are amazing" have both always been overstated. Charles did have the edge over Carlos most of the time for a couple seasons, but it was rarely that big of a margin, and I think Carlos has been knocking on Charles door for more than just a few races, it's been like a year now. I like Charles a lot as a person and he obvs can be crazy fast, but as a complete F1 driver "champion in waiting" package, he's always been overhyped to me.

  • @psifireborn
    @psifireborn ปีที่แล้ว

    Fernando was carrying debris from Tsunoda, second lap, and Leclerc had engine problems for the last 5 to 7 laps.

  • @gearzracing
    @gearzracing ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you think that after both Mercs overtook LeClerc and in the slight 2 second window before they caught up to Norris, if Hamilton and Russel swapped places as they were about 1 second apart, do you think that Hamilton could have gotten P2 or made an attempt at the Victory?