Seized Brakes And A Little Spinout - 1963 Plymouth Valiant Signet Hardtop Comes Back To Life
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ม.ค. 2024
- I could spend every day reviving these A-bodies. Especially if it's going to be this easy. Today, we get a slant six powered 1963 Plymouth Valiant Signet 200 (whatever that means) running again. That's the easy part, though... the slightly more challenging part is to get it rolling again. But if we can pull that off, well, it's probably time for some testing...
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Hack? The reason I watch every video is because the first time I accidentally clicked on your video and watched, I thought, "Oh my God, someone who mechanics just like me!!!". I realized I wasn't alone. And now I'm teaching my boy the ways of the "hack". The reality is we are Jedi Masters teaching young Padwans. But the Sith are always out there trying to undermine us. Keep fighting the good fight.
Ya know I'm so thankful that there are so many experts that seem to know everything yet have no TH-cam channel or website promoting their awesome skills but can still tell thee rest of us how wrong we are about everything
Oh that’s one of my favorite parts of all this…
My 1st experience with these was way back in Soap Lake when my father worked for Martin Marietta during the missile crisis. Company car he had for awhile. Finished the sixth grade there so about '63. It was so different from our Rambler. Thanks!
i will never get tired of old a body videos.
I had a 63 just like it except it was a 4 door. Brought back a lot of memories seeing this one
Love them OLD A bodies. I had a few back in the day!
63 VALIANT SIGNET MY FAVORITE CAR FROM THE 1960S! GREAT VIDEO. THANKS.
Love it. I had to watch [and sub] when this came up in my feed. I've owned the same car for many years. Paid $600 for it in 1981.
It started out red, got a respray at Earl Scheib sometime in the 70s to an off white and has a three speed on the column. Red interior, bucket seats.
It was well worn when I got it, perhaps twice around on the odo, maybe a year away from the JY but it's been on the road since 1963, registered and running. It got a new engine in 1988. 225. I had thought it was standard in the Signet. What a maroon.
The styling summary was right on target. The 65 is my favorite but watching a 63 in action like that gave me a fresh appreciation of the one I have.
The hair pin in the front fenders and the blank aluminum taillight corners always looked "off". The red lens should wrap around and fill that space like it does on the wagons. It all makes sense now seeing it in motion.
Thanks.
That’s awesome! I really like this one. That beautiful black ‘63 that just sold on Bring A Trailer got me pretty excited about them. I think they’re neat.
I had a 63 Valiant as a winter beater back in 1974. The car was indestructible. I paid $50.00 for it.
I bought mine from a junkyard in 1972. It was a 2 door sedan, rather than a hardtop like the one here., It had a bench seat with heavy duty upholstery, since it had been used by the local telephone company, and was army green with black on the doors to cover the Bell logo. Three on the tree, with an aftermarket emergency flasher, with a first aid kit and safety cone in the trunk. Drove it for three years and ended up selling it for the same price I paid. That base slant six sure was a great engine.
waou, I like it, when I was a little boy, my father bought a Valiant 200, in the 70" in France it was a big American car... and not common...
Omgosh i love that car my mom n dad had this exact valiant with blue interior back in 1973... i d throw in a 318 and daily drive that turd!!❤
My first car was a 63 Valiant - 6 cylinder leaning tower of power and push button auto. Thanks for saving this one from the crusher.
Love the old Valiant, I wish they would bring back the Valiant name.
Early A bodies!! Not my personal favorite, but I would be excited to see more on the road!
You’re correct. The 2 sedan is the correct designation. The younger generation has trouble with sedan, hardtop and coupe designations hence the term 2 door post.
I’m not going to blame the misunderstanding on young people. Media outlets like Hemmings hedge their bets with “two door post sedan,” boomers on the internet refer to their tri-five Chevy as a “TWO DOOR POST,” and a thread about two door tri-fives on the HAMB (notably, a concentration of older hot rodders) is loaded with page after page of guys calling them post cars. It’s just soda vs. pop, but with cars. Isn’t language fun?
@@DeadDodgeGarage That's odd. I've never started hearing the reference to "post" until the last 10-15 years or so. And I'm a "boomer". It grates. You're right to point it out. No one ever referred to anything as a "post" when I was growing up. It was never a part of the language. Nor in the decades following. This seems to be a recent thing.
It's pretty simple, so I don't understand why the confusion. "Hardtop" is the exception. So there is no need to add "post". It's either a hardtop or it isn't. Clearly defined more than 70 years ago.
I've seen writers twist themselves into knots trying to avoid referring to a hardtop as a hardtop, or over describe it.
Others will refer to the 61-65 Lincolns as "hardtops". They aren't. Lincoln called them that.
And Ford tried to get away with selling full size Fords and Mustang IIs as "Pillared Hardtops" just because they used frameless door glass and a slim B pillar. They weren't hardtops no matter what Ford claimed.
There's also a tendency for people to add words to something, as if to appear more detailed, more informed , more precise or out of habit and hearing it used.
"Pillarless hardtop" [redundant], "switch [swap, change] 'out" [redundant.To swap something the old item has to go 'out'].
I once saw a YTer refer to his mid 60s Chevy Malibu 4 door sedan as a "crew cab" multiple times. It was even in the title. WTF?
Thanks for letting me gas about cars. My friends just zone out when I go on a tangent.
My older brother once told me: "Not one person in 100,000 would care about any of that". My commentary had been about modern tail light shapes. Little bro DOES get it tho.
Totally enjoyed this video.
That's just AWESOME! You should do more of those! :D
Heck yeah more A bodies! Love dem A bodies!
A body's rock bud keep up great content
0:45 hearing that starter motor brought me back to the days of owning a 64 Valiant convertible. Poor little thing was a Bondo bucket. Sold it years ago but there are still 13 inch rims in my yard....and a grill ...
I remember those old key chains. My Mom had one for our '63 Fairlane when I was a kid. I still have the key and the key chain. It was red fron State Farm Insurance.
I love her , she’s beautiful ❤️
Pretty sure you know why early year Barracudas have Valiant badging in them. :)
Great stuff- I’m in love with these Valiants. Can’t get enough. And miss mine.
Never had a problem with that Holly EVER 👍🏻🇦🇺
I have had more problems with Holley 1920s than any other carb, by far.
So you got the good one.
Had a '63 in the '80's. Very clean and BLACK 2 door with RED interior. Thinking it was a base Valiant or maybe a 100 because it had the 170 CUBIC INCH LEANING TOWER OF POWER W/3 ON THE TREE! The perfect cruiser and economy car as I had no need for anything extravagant at the time. Spritley, but little of power.
My '73 Rallye 340 Challenger was between small to big valve heads. (another more exciting story) The VALIANT was my daily driver as Mom piloted a '77 Cordoba 400 C.U. sans the lean burn to a dual point and the prerequisate THERMOQUAD!
Lover of the LA engine who knew the capabilities and shamed many a big block of any flavor😉!
You and me both! The LA engine is fantastic. And, did you see that black 2 door ‘63 with red interior that just sold on Bring A Trailer? It had been converted to 360/4 speed. It was absolutely gorgeous… and I am in love. Again.
Nope. Sounds like a fun little sleeper project though! A giant killer! 🤔@@DeadDodgeGarage
Loved my 63 dart.
I always saw a bit of Mercedes in the ‘63 Valiant rear end… cool car!
I see it too!
That's a neat little car!
I've always liked the grille design of those 63's!👍
Me too!
That is one cool little car there
Gonna be a damn good car
Hack? You mean, resourceful. That's a complement.
Early A bodies are the best 👌
That Valiant needs that 273 you're working on.
Well I’ve got the one going in the other Valiant, and then the spicy one going in my Barracuda… but we have three more 😅
Found your Channel a couple hours ago now I've been binge-watching hey good stuff glad I subscribed
Thank you! Welcome aboard!
You're right & like it too....
Lovely car just the way it is
I love the 63 Valiant it's ramblerish I mean just look at that front end so rambling thanks to the video keeps me inspired
Let me be the first to say were wrong about everything except the fact it was raining.😂😊 My 1st car was a 65 Barracuda so yeah, those early As are sweet. Keep em coming.
Nice, nice. Haha. Don’t mind if I do.
The valiant Signet in Mexico was called the Acapulco, for obvious reasons. Also there was never a V8 in any Valiant, well ever, in Mexico all the way up to 1982 I believe..
I've had a couple of those engines. It never occurred to me to try a burn out with them. Add oil and go. And go. And go. The two barrel ones will go 100 mph. Allegedly :-)
Allegedly. Haha. I’ve tried it in many slant six cars. Some are very willing! Some, surprisingly enough, aren’t…
My first Mopar was a '64 Valiant Signet 200, in 1996. My car before it was a 1980 Saab and it was just too confusing to work on, so I wanted to get the most rudimentary - and cheap! - car possible that could still reasonably be considered a daily driver. A $750 '64 Valiant fit the bill exactly!
Yeah it looks to be a great candidate for a turbo 6 project ....good content and thanks
I like it too 😃
Never saw one of those before, even in a magazine.
Apparently many haven’t! I’ve seen a couple over the years - plus the ‘63 wagon we owned.
Very similar to our Australian AP5 and AP6 valiant we had sedan in super 225 / 273 we also in the AP6 a Ute which was a great Ute we also had the wagon in V8 and 6 .👍🏻🇦🇺.
Yep. Wish the ute had made it here… I’d like to have one!
These old A bodies are an interesting cheap car from the 60's. Great video Dude!
Damn you Jamie! Why do I love that POS "Green Bean"? Stop showing me crap I didn't know I liked. 😎
This is like… a beige bean? Anyway, my sincerest apologies. 😅
"Cream Bean"?
Us Ozzies dont have a choice, its A bodies or noffin.Luv em
The Holley discovery. Blahhhhattt! LOL
I ended up cutting it because we were talking over each other, but right before that, Tom said “oh look! It’s your favorite!!” 😅
I see your windshield is delaminating just like my 64. That's cool. 😢
That’s just what they do unfortunately.
Straight axle...yessss. Steelies on the back....mooneyes stckers.. push button drive. .mmm. .
D-class Gasser...open header cackling beast with bad intentions.
All of that 😍
I like the Signet more than the Barracuda. Would like to put the doors on my son's early '67 VC Regal slant sedan, Oz version. He wants to put a modern hemi in it, I reckon a hemi 6. Or just leave the slant, but 350 holley and electronic ignition it. Maybe a turbo.
That's all I have to say.
Enjoy your day🖖
Too many good options. Haha. I like the signet a lot! Don’t make me pick…
@@DeadDodgeGarage A signet'd go well in your 'set'.
I'm a 70s kid and a car guy nearly 50 years, but I don't remember having ever seen one of those
Thanks Jamie
Nice A body, if an LA doesn't fit, put in a B or RB, distributors in the front 😁
Had a 63 wagon with a big block 225 I put in. used it as the parts chaser for the Hemi dart.
My first car was a 63 signet 3 on the tree 2 door.
Niiice. I really like these things.
@@DeadDodgeGarage cool cars , mine was handed down when I was 16, was my dad's old daily. Midwest rust killed it.
Sounded like you whistled final fantasy. I loved those games.
I sure did! You’re the first person to catch that.
I played those games too much, but they were great.
We are probably close to the same age.
I gave my girlfriend in college one. The car stayed longer than I. 225 slant six and a 3 spd torqueflight. They were $200 cars when a decade old. But rust was a problem on the East coast if you had salt. Got painted by hand. All kinds of band and album titles, hand painted differently on every panel. Greetings from Asbury park album color painted on the hood.
Did I mention the front clip was white, and the rest of the car blue?
The '63 Valiants are unique having one year only features.
There are commercial
Dang Cat!- there are weld-in steel or rivet-on.fiberglass firewall 'recess' or 'boxes' to clear distributors available thru hotrod parts suppliers that could work for a V8 swap.
Ahhh, that’s good to know.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Thought it would be easier than a major firewall rebuild.
Coworker claimed his Dad used the valve cover off a welding tank as a fiberglass form to clear the distributor on a hotrod back in the 50's.
You’ve got some great Mopars on that property . I did see a couple of Toyotas in the video. Get rid of that garbage, and it’ll be perfect
Everyone that works at Rocket (except Tom) commutes from quite a ways away. Trev specifically commutes all the way from Seattle... hence the 50 MPG Prius. I'm sure he'd love to drive any one of his many other treasures instead.
The 63-66 A bodies are just very interesting. Actually a pretty decent economy car in their day, and nowadays they are an interesting piece of Mopar history that can be had for not a lot of money. But, what I want to see on DDG is a 60-62 Valiant or Lancer. Those are just the weirdest things on 4 wheels, except for a lot of other 60-62 Mopars.
Oh... I want to see that too. I'm confident one will turn up eventually! I really want to check one out for science.
Need to buy that aluminum slant 62 Lancer@@DeadDodgeGarage
'63 Heater was still optional equipment. I don't think heaters became standard equipment until '67 or '68.
Our 63 valiant had a way better front in 🇦🇺. My 1st valiant in 1974 was a 3 speed manual on the tree 1964 super 225 wish I still had it . Same single barrel Holly 😀man we had some hot 🔥 slants in our family that put many brand X to shame 👍🏻🇦🇺.
You need a Dart GT to complete the set! I had one - great car!
I had a Canadian '63 Valiant and it had a Valiant nose but the body of a Dart.
Yep! That seemed to be their move for Canada during the 60s. That and slapping the name Fargo on Dodge trucks.
OOOOhhhh, a push button shifter! There will NEVER be any issues with that. ever.
It certainly couldn’t end up slightly out of adjustment, making shifting impossible… and definitely couldn’t be leaking from the cable connections at the transmission. That would never happen
All jokes aside there's nothing wrong with a good old Val in nz here there's a large following of vals especially way down south island my very first car was a ap5 Val 1965 slant 6 resembles a cross between your 63 and 64 aussie Chrysler made heaps of them
Ooo... first comment. :D I know a lot of people think those early A bodies are kind of ugly, but I like them. The wheels look like the same I had on my first car ('72 Coronet). Had to go look them up... Appliance "Wire Mag". Bought them from your favorite parts store, C.R.A.P. in Shelton.
I like them too. I just don’t like the lack of engine compartment space much.
I actually just picked up a set of them with a deeper lip for my 66 newport, such neat wheels
@@Gonegrizzly ya, the ones on my Coronet were a bit deeper too. I suspect it's down to (at least in my case) they were 15" and wider than what fit on an early A body. My Coronet was an ex-patrol car that came with 15's originally, and if memory serves the wheels I put on it were 7" or 8" wide.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I may have to stop watching your channel, Jamie (kidding)... I know Tom sells some of these fairly reasonably and I DO NOT need more projects.
@@DeadDodgeGaragequestion... y'all work on the C classes?
I'd love to see a royal lancer or a Phoenix...
And maybe a DeSoto!!!
And I know where your TAVARISH project is....
I saw a 60 matador project on the Sacramento marketplace
People who facelessly call other people a hack are usually, you guessed it, a hack!
Only the ‘64 Barracuda had the same front fender lines as the ‘65 Valiant. The cheaper ‘64 Valiants still has the wider lines like the ‘63. I believe the ‘64 Valiants still had the lower ‘63 style trunk lid without the line, but had the horizontal tail lights, like the ‘65. It’s all very simple and not confusing!
That’s why I had it wrong! Because I was thinking of the ‘64 Barracuda fenders. And you’re right on the trunk lid too. I’m guessing they wanted to make one fender and one quarter panel for ‘65. I’m learning so much today. Haha. Thanks!
I'll tell you sir for somebody who's a hack you sure do know your stuff Jaime and I have to say I love your channel. Love what you're doing man. Keep up the great work. And I love the early a bodies. But I'm like you. Hell I'll take them all with him. They're like to me they're like stray dogs or something. You know stray pets. You know that people put out and don't want anymore. I would own all of them funny little thing. Whenever I go into a junkyard and I see mopars I'm like thinking of myself. Can I say this? I can't. I can say this. Yeah I can do this. I can put a different carburetor on it. I could you know work on the ignition system I can. I can get this running yeah and then I have to you know don't fall in love with it. You know don't don't get too wrapped up in it. You know bring myself back down to earth. I've got several Mopars myself
Thank you, Jaime
There’s a 63 2 door sedan right down the road from my place for sale for 750$ but doesn’t have a title.
Yes 63 4 and 5
I had a 64 with a 3 on a tree
Those weird mag wheels are what my white 69 charger had on the rear when I bought it in 1998 but larger rubber...and slots on front. Actually looked quite mean.
We have a set of them from my brother’s ‘64 Fury. They’re interesting but not my favorite.
Far far from mine either. Thank God for cragars and slots.
Far far from mine either. Thank God for cragars and slots.
Far far from mine either. Thank God for cragars and slots.
Small bolt pattern makes these more interesting@@joshuajesch7154
Coincidentally, I also have a white '63 Valiant V200, red interior. Mine has the factory extreme lightweight floor option, also from Washington state. Mine is slated for the chassis shop for a 12 pt moly cage. I also have a '64 firewall, so the distributor problem won't be a factor. Wanted one of these for a drag car for years.
Yeah, we're well familiar with that option around here... That sounds amazing. A black one with red interior just sold on Bring A Trailer that I completely fell in love with. 360 four speed driver car, but the look and the stance were the stuff dreams are made of. My drag car build is the Barracuda - so at least we're in the same neighborhood. Haha.
@@DeadDodgeGarage weird thing is, the rest of the body is really good! The one with the Dart front clip the drag build or the 2nd Gen?
@@vincentenk4449 Dart front clip - my '66. The "Garbage Can Cuda" as I love to call it.
Jamie, you can’t end your videos without an “and remember”. It’s your thing and we look forward to it.
You know how people say you are copying Vice Grip or Uncle Tony? If anyone else does “and remember”, then they will hear that they are copying Dead Dodge Garage.
I know. Haha. Sometimes I just don’t have a good one ready. I’d hate to recycle them… the people would know.
@@DeadDodgeGarage I like that, no filler material.
Fred Flintstone & Barney Rubble has a better method on stopping.
You do know gas and or water sound the same when you listen real close. Or just hold your ear to a sea shell .
Yes - but they smell and taste slightly different
I'm thinking new heart for the 63. REDRAM....REDRAM...REDRAM.....REDRAM!!!
Ohhh I like where your head’s at… but you’ll want to stay tuned for tomorrow’s video before getting too excited about the Red Ram 😅
Maybe another one will show up. Used to know where another one was over in Doty. Was a 55 270 double rocker shaft. I have no idea if it is still there...in a dragster...in a barn. Last time I saw it was like 1975. Not even sure if the same people still own the barn. Could be my brother would know, though.
The problem with a bad voltage regulator on an early Mopar is that when it overgharges and kicks the alternator on and off at full blast, the voltage spikes will kill the ECU sooner or later, usually sooner.
I have never had that lead to a toasted ECU, and I have dealt with that problem *a lot* over the years. I’ve had blown bulbs… stereos wigging out… but so far, never the ignition module problem. The good news on this one is, points! Haha.
Strange car. Front looks Rambler. Back looks early Mercedes. Weird/cool!
I have always liked the early A bodies. Don't really know why, they're not much to look at. Perhaps that's why!
I have a 62 2dr hardtop Signet 200 that I'm converting from aluminum to cast iron block. Cool cars. I like them. The aluminum six didn't like the combustion pressure from the aftermarket cam and 4bble 400 cfm carter. Is that one a 170 or 225?
This appears to be a 225 - but to be honest, I didn’t look that hard. The aluminum slant six didn’t like its factory combustion pressure 😅 they’re cool though. I hope to mess with one some day.
If you want ANOTHER engine project, let me know. @@DeadDodgeGarage
Pardon the more than likely dumb question, but what's the vertical lever next to the push buttons? Also, that's a damn cool little car. I could haul it in the back of the wagon!
Park lever. Buttons to select gears and lever to put her into park. Had a 63 - so cool!
They’re not thaaaat small… actually, next to the Volare, I think you would be surprised.
When did Chrysler first go to electric wipers? I had a 1960 Ford Falcon with vacum wipers.
My 1948 Dodge Power Wagon has electric wipers. Military trucks from that time still had vacuum. I don’t know 100% what models switched when, but they definitely had them in cars in the 50s.
Would you be interested in working on my 1978 ramcharger? 8" lift 38 toyo tires, 360 with a 4spd. Beautiful ramcharger, but needs some steering work and other little things. I live in Oregon and can deliver it to you.
I definitely could be! My schedule is absolutely insane at present. I am primarily focused on knocking out a couple long term projects. But in the coming months, this could be possible. Feel free to email me at deaddodgegarage@gmail.com and we can discuss.
Ok, great!! I think you could make a great video of working on it and it would help me out. I'm fine with the timeline, been rarely driven in the last couple yrs because of brake issues and steering issues. I drive it like 2 or 3 times a yr, very sad. I will email you, thank you!!
so what ARE ampometer (?) for then .?
The guy’s point was that its job is only to tell you whether the battery is being charged or discharged. And it’s not that he’s totally wrong, it’s just that by interpreting the amount to which the battery is being charged or discharged, it’s really easy to figure out what’s going on with the alternator.
Do you have any 1965 Plymouth belvedere sedans if you do make a video on one of them
None of those around, no. I'm not so sure I've ever seen a '65 belvedere. We've got a '64 in the yard. And my wife and I used to own a '67.
10:48 I’m wondering if the brake material came off the shoe and is jammed up now.
It didn’t make any horrible noises, just started getting grabby. And of course the rear left doesn’t spin when doing silly things. Maybe grabby because that drum is now the only one with a usable friction surface? Don’t know. Either way, the brakes need everything.
I was wrong in my estimation
@@DeadDodgeGaragethanks for the reply. That car is sweet. New brakes all around are well worth it.
63s look more "normal" than those 62s lol
Oh very much so. Haha.
You interested in buying a 65 plymouth valiant? Original v8 car running , 8 3/4 rear end original black with green interior some restorarion has been done but I cant take it on.
Ooohhh. I would love to know more - but be aware I recently bought a Charger so I don’t have a lot of money to play with. Send me an email at DeadDodgeGarage@gmail.com with pictures and info. Thanks.
Put a 318 and a 5 speed in it...forget the wiper motor.
I was thinking something more along the lines of a turbocharger.
Is it safe to come back?
Some of the Ford guys are still trolling around here somewhere, but I think it’s fine
At 20:44 I see a 69 green plymouth wagon and I want it.
No… no, you don’t.
I think the wheels came off of Granada
Did they use the 5x4” bolt pattern? Don’t think Ford ever did
I know someone who has a 65? Valiant Signet convertible
That sounds pretty awesome. I really enjoyed that ‘65 Dart I messed with this summer.
No don't hit Tom lol. 13:46 My go to saying at work when someone seems leery of my operating skills on a a piece of equipment is " I promise I won't run you over...................on purpose".
If the small block has distributor clearance problems why not just put a big block in there. 🤔
Unique problems require unique solutions!
Those early 60s cars looked so…….unique, kinda like a ford falcon that caught the Down syndrome or something 🤣
I don’t know that either of those cars would win a beauty contest.
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