I just got these today, after watching a few of your videos. I bought them because you mentioned that these will work with active pickups. I can confirm these work with active pickups. They work fine with my '87 Charvel Model 4. Thanks for the video(s) on wireless systems Scott. I had no idea what I was doing and these fit the bill just fine. People just have to realize they ARE buying a $50 system. In the world of Amazon people expect high quality for a cheap price. Things don't work that way. I play down my basement and for $50 bucks these things are great. No hiss, no noticeable latency.
I used Xvive with serious dropout at home. You previous video inspired me what to look for and I found Swiff and bought it a few weeks ago. Thanks for your very detailed comparison and inspiration to me. The Swiff system is amazing, dead silent without any noise or dropout again. I highly recommend it to all my friends now.
@Bullets ForTeeth oh really, are you sure it’s the same? I wondered what the difference was as I found those on eBay too and wondered the difference. Have you got them and are they stable?
I bought these in May of 2020 and my friends thought I was nuts because they had never heard of it. But I analyze things and don't just buy what everyone else has. When I checked the product specs I liked what I saw and decided there would be no interference issue at almost anywhere I could imagine. I have played for 4.5 hours and still had battery life left on the indicator mark it was at light #2 which is half. But it's feasible that the battery life was about to jump to the next level lower. Anyway, I have not had one drop out or noise of any kind. Use it on electric and acoustic-electric and it is as reliable and good sounding as any cable. I only wish the device that plugs into the guitar was smaller. But they are all relatively large and in time I'm sure like everything it will get smaller. :-)
it is simply INCREDIBLE quality of a video... thank you so much I wasn't expecting someone to be that dedicated to put quality explanation of these so entertaining even!
Thanks for doing a review on UHF systems. I've been out of music for almost 20 years, but was invited to play a set at jazzfest in New Orleans in early May. At 67, it's probably the last real show I'll ever play, so I accepted the offer and pulled out my old Precisions and bought some strings. I was a wireless guy, but no longer have the old system I did in the early 90s. It never worked anywhere in Atlanta, Denver, NY, DC, or some other larger cities in the States or Europe. A little research suggested that 2.4 might not be the optimal frequency to use if I don't want to be tethered. This video helps a lot. THANK YOU!! Sounds like UHF is the way to go.
Thanks! And also buying higher end wireless definitely helps too. I do suggest watching this video as well: th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K9HUWn4SKi9C4C7D Hope that helps!
Picked up a set of these to try out a few days ago. The reviews here and elsewhere were mixed regarding compatibility with active pickups but I figured for $50 it was worth a shot. They worked flawlessly with passives, but unfortunately did not play well at all with my active pickup guitar (EMG 81/85 @9v). When I first plugged in and strummed a few chords it sounded OK so I had high hopes, but as soon as I started playing anything that involved aggressive low string palm muting it started cutting out. My best guess going off what I was hearing through my speakers is that there's some sort of gate in the system that gets hit only when chugging away with higher output actives. If I rolled off the volume pot on the guitar and/or played with a VERY light touch I could get it to go away. I think that's where some of the confusion on whether or not these work with actives comes from. If you have a lower output active system and/or play a style of music that has little to no palm muting these may work. If you're using EMGs or the equivalent doing aggressive metal or metal-adjacent stuff these probably aren't for you. They're 3x the price and on a different frequency band, so it's not a direct comparison, but FWIW the NU-X C5-RC has worked flawlessly with my actives and anything else I've plugged it into. And thanks Scott for all the info on this channel. Seriously helpful!
Thank you for the details in this comment! I really appreciate it, and I hope this answers the questions for some people who watch this video as well! Really appreciate it 🤘🤘
The problem with these UHF systems is that they all seem to have a built in noise gate that can't be turned off, and many amazon reviews of the swiff explain that. I have the lekato UHF system and it does the exact same thing. It makes playing at low volumes really annoying because the audio will cut out, and even on the attack of some notes the audio will cut off the transients too. I could hear it on your distorted test, where the audio was cutting in on the transients.
I just shot a video about this. My advice… you are shopping in the most budget part of the store for wireless. Don’t want to mess around with cheap stuff? Save up and buy an entry level Shure or sennheiser system. These work well for me, but it doesn’t sound like you are having much luck with them.
Awesome! I just ordered it. I'm with you in that I'm really getting obsessed about avoiding all cables. I would invest in any system (microphones included), as long as it is rechargeable, reliable, and sounds good.
Nice! Welcome to the no cable club 💪 just be careful with using too much cheap wireless all at once if you want to get rid of all cables. Watch this video for a guide for buying wireless and how many are on stage at once: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide th-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/w-d-xo.html
Hope you guys enjoyed the video. Also, right after posting it, I noticed that Lekato actually has one of these that transmit NOT on 2.4 or 5.8, but it doesn't say which frequency it transmits on. However, it's only $42. I haven't tried it though. Has anyone tried this model? amzn.to/3s4wLgW How well did it work for you? Cheers 🤘Also, don't forget to watch my other "master" video on these plug-and-play wireless systems here: th-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/w-d-xo.html
Hi Scott I ordered this and recieved it today. I was hoping it would be different than the swiff ones but I encountered the same exact problem I mentioned before. The notes that cut out are sounding like they were highly compressed when they're picked hard and like I mentioned before it only happens on the neck pickup. I'm returning it and will be exchanging it for the Rowin 2.4g one.
I was looking @ those! A lil cheaper right?! But since I had good success w/the Swiff’s I’ll probably continue with them. Also, if I sit or kick another pair, I can scavenge from my existing boneyard of Swiff unit’s to make another pair…again😭
I have to assume the Lekato, is the same as the Westshell wireless G7 that is on lightning deal today...and also the Swiff WS-70 model. This is good and bad. The good being that all brands review really well...the bad being that I just ordered the Westshell (since it was on lightning deal) but then realized the Lekato (@ $42) has a 15% off coupon, and the Swiff is $42 with an 8% coupon...thus making the Westshell the most expensive of all 3 despite the lightning deal. Well, if you want to add the Lekato to your collection, now is the time to do it.
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 I actually got one a few weeks ago haha, but I'll be doing a video on it next week sometime (I want to use it at my gigs this weekend first). So far it's great
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 funny you should say that. I just found this video after getting my westshell G7's this week. I plugged them in this morning, and I'm happy with what I'm hearing so far, but it's going to take more trials. Also, our band's wireless mic system runs on UHF frequencies, so we'll see if there is any interference in that aspect.
I watched your first video but bought the swiff based on another TH-cam video review. Love it. Had it about 2 weeks. Works great. I also have a Line 6 wireless on my board...it gets dropouts occasionally. Now I saw your new video pop up in my subs feed...and was interested in your review of it. Thumbs up! Confirms my own experience with it.
this is exactly what i needed to know. I only need wireless for my church gig (I can't completely trust the sound man, need to hear the house) all the others I cable up. I used your link to purchase
Fantastic reviews on all of the wireless system you've covered. I like that you only talk about what you know through use and also how you give sound recommendations that are based on your research and logic. And your GIFs in the videos are fitting and funny AF. Thanks
I got my Swift Aundio 2 days ago because of this review. Bro. It's awesome. I LOVE IT!!! Trust me guys, this is the one. It looks great and sounds great. No drop in tone quality. Perfect. THANK YOU!!!
Glad you enjoy it 🤘 just played a show with a guitarist and bass player who both got this wireless and used it too, and they love it too. It’s such a good wireless, especially for that price!
Was about to buy a wireless unit 2 months ago and was watching your other vid. Today i finally was about to pull the trigger on the getaria 5.8ghz, glad that I look at your channel again! I am getting this now, thanks!
I was about to get this as the latency is as low as the Boss WL-20. (I need it to be low as possible as I use Software FX which already adds around 10ms). However multiple amazon reviewers say this has a noticeable "gate" effect. Is this true? My concern is playing a lot of clean fingerstyle jazz I prefer no type of gate.
People seem to get a gate with metal playing, so you should be fine. I have no problems with a gate with mine and one of my singers uses his at every show.
First let me say thanks for good videos and helping us people understand the equipment. With that said I have a question/issue and am reaching out…this is pertaining to wireless guitar in specific the Swifi. Allow me to elaborate…..I am primarily a metal/hard rock player. The 80s is when I grew up….lol the decade of decadence….now I use a couple of super strats, I.e. Floyd rose and high gain pick ups etc. I set things down 15 years ago when my children started coming along….this past year I have gotten back in and have been playing for around 40 years total….these days it’s just at the house for myself….I run my amp into a mixing board and into a headphone amp…it sounds killer blah blah blah. After seeing these cheap wireless units I decided I wanted one and your videos helped me to choose the Swifi I experience no drop outs, range is great, no tonal issues that I can hear…but… I have a gain loss is the best way I can describe it. I run my amp around 70-75 percent gain and with the high gain pups…well it’s a face melting tone. So let just lay out an example….when using guitar to 1/4 inch cable to amp….when I’m noodling up on the 12-14 frets and bend or hold a note…for simplicity let’s say that note goes for 8 seconds around 5-6 seconds it goes sonic…meaning it’s the point when the vibration through the pups go into naturally harmonics not volume feedback but high gain harmonic…..killerness!!!! Now when I use the Swifi ….it feels like I have cut the gain down 30% say from 75 to 45….and at that 5-6 second mark the note dissipates it’s not the noise gate altogether it does resemble that and I don’t understand this. Now on the other spectrum I can use the Swifi on the headphones/record out of the amp to my mixer and it sounds normal with no loss of anything tone gain volume nothing…..it is killer….any ideas
Yeah some people have said these cheaper ones give them a gain loss or a noise gate with metal stuff. That’s unfortunately part of the risk with these cheap ones. Try it with your setup, if it doesn’t work return it and try another one is the best advice I’ve come up with for it. Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the reply…unfortunately I am beyond the return date…. But I’m ok with it because I started using this from out of the record out to my board and preforms just fine…so I think I will try another one anyway to see if it is ok for the guitar and if it has issues I will have a return period…no harm no fowl….maybe that lekato ws 70 that you seem to like
Lower frequencies have better range too (the larger wavelength is less likely to be damaged in transit over distance), so this seems like a no-brainer!
Thanks for the great videos regarding these assorted wireless doo-hickies. After playing guitar for 50+ years in almost every live situation you can imagine, I recently decided to cut the cord and go wireless. Looking at the endless myriad of these things on Amazon, your vids have been invaluable and after watching this one in particular, I've decided that this is the product to go with and I've just ordered up. I can't wait to stop dragging around a guitar cable in my studio. I just subscribed to your channel as this is the level of quality information I seek.
I know I'm late to the game here. But I bought these a couple of months ago because of this review. And I have to say I'm quite impressed. As a bass player it seems the low end on other wireless systems just "shelf" off around 400k. But not these. I use a modern bass with modern pickups. I do not hear any difference between this system or cabled. Good call Scott. Thanks for keeping it real for us broke-a$$ musicians. Now.... I have some catching up to do with your channel.....
I stared with the XVibe on a Recommendation from a friend, they were almost 250 bucks Canadian, so I thought at that price point they would be pretty good, they were terrible, They were dropping out like crazy. Then after seeing Scott’s video I like the sound of the Getaria 5.8 mhz, so I bought them and sent the Zvibes back, the Getaria have been working fine, but the other day I saw these on Amazon and ordered them, I think they’re going to be the best ones.
Thanks for the comment! The best strategy in my opinion is to have one on 5.8ghz (like the getaria one you got) and then have one of these on the 900mhz. So if one isn’t working, you have an option and it’s only about $100 for two wireless 👍 so good call!
@@ScottUhlMusic I use the Line 6 Relay 50 for shows, but I’m using these cheaper ones for rehearsals and jamming at home. Thanks for you content, it has really helped me out!!
I use the Swiff, they are great minimal frequency difference (im neurotic about sound) (bass player) like u said how do they sound...Great! Very quite, even with full pumped 2000 watts and overdrive pedals. I usually have Morgami cables, Swiff system is quiter to me... thanx from another brother in Colorado, High to you 💀✌🤟
So far I've used them in practice sessions only, but I can hear the better sound above the 2.5Ghz Gitarre that are now in the depths of my gig bag. The battery life so far is also better.
@@ScottUhlMusic I bought mine on the strength of your review. I also have an AKG SR40/PT40 which is really good, but the receiver has to be powered. Which is a right pain. My set up consists of just a floor processor which is really a preamp and I already have to find power for that. But having the physical AKG receiver next to it was a right pain. This gizmo doesn't interfere with the Sennheiser wireless mic either. So happy days. I can't hear the difference between my AKG and this gizmo. Uh. I also have a shure wireless in ear monitor and no interference with that either. So I can whole heartedly recommend this gizmo too.
Great video. I live in Denver I just bought this for a show my band it's always sunny in Tijuana is playing at the end of July at moe's. I liked and subscribed
Nice man! I think my old bands might have played with you guys. Glass Delirium or Tattooed Strings. Either way, I’ve used this system at Moes and it works great 👍 enjoy the new wireless. Thanks!
Thanks for the tip and review Scott! By the way I mentioned I liked the Boss for its durability. One drawback I forgot to mention about the Boss was that it may not work well with sunken tele type input jacks. I had to use a washer on one to get it to activate. The Swiff sounds like a good purchase.
Between the two of these just for build quality and battery life and stuff like that, the boss wins for sure. But this one is about 1/3 the price, and not on 2.4ghz which makes it the winner for me. You are correct on the fact that I like when the wireless doesn’t just stick straight out of the guitar. It looks a little ugly IMO. Glad you enjoyed the video 🤘 If you do end up getting this one, let me know your thoughts on it compared to the Boss one
Bought these. They worked perfectly (pairing) but had a massive impact on the sound. Sucked out all the high end sparkle to my tone. Sending them back.
That’s part of the risk. They work great with my setup, they work great with my singers setup, and they work great for many other comments. But they don’t work with everyone
My understanding is that they do work with active pickups. But I don’t own any active pickups to try it to confirm myself. But I’m pretty sure they do 👍
Hello, great video congratulations! Does this equipment fit an Ibanez SD470, SD 570, Fender Stratocaster? I mean where a regular cable is connected Thanks in advance
Hi i don't recommend SWIFF WS-50 - it has nice audio quality, but have something like threshold gate that switchess off signal when you are not playing. But it does it very often and there is latency for reenabling audio, so it sounds like you have compressor on because it cuts first ms of attack. For long notes it is no problem, but playing short ones with pauses shows this issue.
That hasn’t been my experience, but some people like you have said that, which I address in this video here: th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hJ02R9S9EcGHe6Zx
I've had the Lekato ws-50 (5.8 GHz) for just over a year and never had a problem, however, I HAVE forgotten to charge them and had to fall back to a cable because of that. I like the idea of buying these for redundancy and having the option to try a different band if I ever do have issues. Great advice!
I bought this on a whim after searching and reading on wireless systems for about an hour and decided that this was the best pick without seeing or reading any reveiws.. looks like I may of made the right choice.....
I just bought a pair of these for my Bass, going to try and use them out at a gig in downtown Baltimore, I'll let you guys know how it sounds to me with the low freqs.
Nice job! Just started to get interest in wireless systems. Great advise from someone who actually has used the systems, not just test the systems. FYI; 2.4hz is also used with home wireless telephones, R/C cars, planes, some adapted to control model outdoor electric & live steam trains, & drones (which are bring used more & more for filming). 5.8hz is in up scale & newer wireless home telephones .
Yup, 2.4ghz is even more crowded with all of those other things as well. I understand why companies make them because they are universally accepted around the world. But that makes it very crowded
I've been using wireless for yrs. 1st with a garbage Nady system then switched to AKG wireless bug system. I went a little crazy and bought 7 different bug set ups. All on different frequencies. The 1 I use the most now has a 2 AAA battery powered receiver and a regular 1 AAA battery for the bug transmitter. That goes to my pedalboard and coming out is a Getaria 5.8 system. I've used these all over with both electric and acoustic/electric guitars. Through amps, P A's, D I boxes. On the beach, in churches with their own wireless systems working, at an outside church with just an acoustic guitar and a keyboard plugged into a rechargeable P A speaker. Everything always sounds real good. Enough to where 1 church guitarist bought 1 of my bug systems and the keyboard guy bought Getaria system for himself.
Aloha brutha!🏝Great vids! I’ve bought 3 pairs of this wireless system over 1yr. I love them! Why 3 sets? Broke one sitting down w/unit not snug to guitar (PRS)…broke a 2nd tripping on receiver attached to my Headrush…broke the 3rd same way I broke the 1st one! Lol! Then, I took parts from all 3 orphaned pairs and rebuilt into 2 working pairs! Plus I reversed the plug on the transmitters so now I can easily check the charge indicators…plus the “on” button now faces out which I think looks wayye cooler! 🤙🏽 one of the solder joints was hanging by only 1 thread of wire (which explained why that unit was so scratchy!) …now strong like bull!🦾😎
Picked up these today after my Line6 G10 died last night. The transmitter overheated and now it and the base just blink red. These were recommended as a replacement. Much cheaper to buy these than replace the Line6 transmitter!
This one is ALMOST perfect. I put the switch to my neck pickup (clean channel on amp) and did some heavy pick attack for funk leads stuff and the notes got cut off. The system couldn't handle too much bass and loud picking or something. Had to return and switch for the Getaria 5.8g one which is better but it added a little gain (not distorted) which is not that bad. I liked the tone in the swiff because it didn't add much gain to the signal.
Are you sure it was cutting out because of the volume of how loud you were hitting the strings? I play pretty heavily and I don’t have that issue... but you never know. Everyone’s setup and playing style is different
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes. I pick hard for the funk stuff. It only cuts off when you pick hard on the individual notes. And ONLY when the neck pickup is engaged. It's weird because it doesn't do that on the bridge and I have a high gain pickup (tone zone). I tried it with my other guitars and it does the same. Don't know if mine was faulty.
Hey Scott! I loved your review of the SWIFF WS-50, and now see SWIFF advertising the WS-70 and WS-70+. I haven't been able to get feedback directly from the company on the differences in these newer (?) versions of the WS-50, and wondering if you'd had a chance to take a look at them.
I've sent the Swiff WS-50 back as it was sucking too much tone out of the sound. When using the WS-50 there is a 5dB level drop (which is a lot) compared to plugging the instrument directly into the amp. There is also less treble and less bass. I put this down to the fact that the frequency range of the WS-50 is 30Hz to 16Khz, whereas there is apparently a new version available in some territories (the Swiff WS-70) that has a frequency range of 20hz to 20Khz which may solve these problems. BTW, I have been A/B-ing the WS-50 with a bass guitar which may make the bass roll-off more apparent. All I need to do now is find someone who can supply the Swiff WS-70 in the U.K.!
30hz-16khz should not be a problem. I program my stuff to get rid of below 100 and above 8k anyways for a cleaner tone. I do not hear the loss in quality at all from these, but tone is up to the listener. A volume cut doesn’t bother me, because I can just turn my output up, but again.... I do not hear it. No worries either way and thanks for the comment 👍
I've had the WS-70 for a few months now and can confirm that is MUCH better than the WS-50. It runs at 20khz instead of 16khz so the tone is much better and there is less volume drop.
I have 3 models: Lekato WS-60 (mono and stereo), Lekato A8, and Swiff Audio WS-50. WS-50 has the best stable connection, but unfortunately the transmitted sound quality is poor. Try playing music through , you will definitely hear that something is wrong.
Mine works great but That can happen sometimes, and I address it in this video here: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
Mate you're so right. I've got in ear monitors on 2.4ghz, wireless mic on 5.8ghz and now my 2.4ghz wireless guitar doesn't work so now I need 800-900mhz guitar wireless ha!
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah! I’ve got pro level wireless in ears and microphones for my band but for my solo acoustic gigs these are okay. Basically you buy cheap you pay twice!
Why is the output on these lower than the rest. Have you checked it. I noticed when I plugged mine in to my Helix versus even cheaper 2.4 GHz ones The output is slightly lower so obviously there's less response and distortion that you have to fix trying to add game to the input weird.. Happens on no matter what channel
I bought the ws-50 and they suck! There is a gate built-in to block the white noise. Also it fails a lot when using attack from trouble strings. Not happy.
What type of guitar are you using? This one has worked amazing for me and almost everyone else I’ve heard they loved these. BUT…. You also paid $50 for a wireless. Might have to spend the extra money to get a good wireless for your specific setup
I'm sorry to report I bought this on your recommendation and it sounded terrible. It very noticeably muffled the tone. It was the first cheap wireless I tried after my old Carvin wireless died. I'm reluctant to try the other cheap offerings now if they're all similar in tone quality.
That’s the thing with these cheap wireless. They will not with with every configuration/guitar/pickup/etc. Our singer used two of them at our gig yesterday (one electric and one acoustic) and they worked fantastic. You can try another cheap wireless if you don’t like these, or you can spend the money to get a nice Shure or sennheiser system for $400-$600. Hope that helps 👍
I saw an ad for the CFG (Cable Free Guitar) C-01 which got me searching for reviews where I found both of your great videos. Thank you for those! They were both very informative. The C-01 is the newly upgraded model to CFG’s A8 wireless system, which incorporates the swivel design that the A8 didn’t have. The A8 is currently on sale for $49.90 (normally $100) and the C-01 is on sale for $74.90 (normally $150). My question about these two units regards frequency. On their website it says both utilizes UHF 730MHz. How does this work with the ranges you have indicated in this video? Thanks, again, for you straight-forward, informative videos! Keep them coming!
Then stop looking at cheap wireless. Here’s a great Shure one: th-cam.com/video/k5OM4GUJNvQ/w-d-xo.html Here’s the main one l use that is incredible: th-cam.com/video/rWVF0tv8zCM/w-d-xo.html I mention constantly in my videos that some of these cheaper ones cannot handle every pickup or amp/pedal setup. I’ve even reviewed one that is specifically designed for active pickups: th-cam.com/video/FtI8tnW5TeU/w-d-xo.html This Swiff one seems to work very well with most pickups. But there is no way for me to test them with every combo of pickups/pedal/amp. If these cheap wireless aren’t working for you and your setup……… get a Shure BLXR for $400 👍
I remember back in the day most stuff ran on VHF which was the 'busy' network and then they started putting out wireless that ran on UHF which almost nothing was running on so it seemed to work well,but I personally never had an issue with VHF either so I never bought one.
I think you have an excellent perspective on wireless systems. I, too, have a Shure for important gigs, but 99% of the time, I use these cheaper systems. In particular, I use the Blackwing (probably originally named BlackWang :-) ) I bought it based on your recommendation. I wanted to note that the first one I received had to be returned, because the jack on the receiver was wobbling in the housing. Otherwise, the system has been stable, and I've never had a dropout. So thanks mucho not just for the reviews, but especially for your thoughts on tone and th use of cheaper systems.
Purchased two from your drop down, the amoon and swiss. Will use for my Acoustic. I use Sennheiser's for my Electric. Will let ya know, great video's. .
Thank you for the review. I am not a musician but see a use for this in the DJ world as I would like to transmit a signal from my console to a wireless pa speaker and/or daisy chain from one speaker to the next. I hope this works as running cable across doorways are a hassle. Have you heard of this application? I do know about the Sure and Senn systems but on a budget.
Yup! This is what I use for wireless for PA speakers and it works great: WIRELESS XLR System w/ PHANTOM POWER! Kimafun XLR Wireless Review/Demo th-cam.com/video/mGETbUMKzG4/w-d-xo.html
Hey I love my WS-50s! Does anyone know if you can use 2 x WS-50 transmitters and send to 1 x receiver? I was thinking of sending a guitar and a keyboard to my pedalboard rather than using an ABY pedal. Thoughts?
Hi, do you think those swiff ws50 may have two hardware versions? I just bought a pair of these and i've immediately noticed a HUGE tone difference from a cable. Massive high and low loss, volume drop and the gate is a little annoying with PMs
Watch this video to find out why that can happen and what to do about it: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
Ordered the Lekato 2.4 AND the Swiff. Both had noticeable audio quality degradation. The hissssss coming from the Swiff even when idle, made them unusable to me. So unless there is an unfair amount of defective product out there, I find these unusable.
I own the swiff and they do last.... I play multiple 4 hour gigs weekly and they last no problem especially if you shut them down during break. I can't figure out if you can add multiple transmitters to one receiver, like some others do. If anybody knows how to do that please let me know. The distance is insane by the way. I have an amp in basement and I went 100 across basement then upstairs out to driveway then to middle of cul-de-sac before starting to loose any sound....
Ours stopped working correctly after about 8 months. Basically they no longer seat all the way in. Ive tried multiple guitars and same result. The only way the transmitter works is if I put pressure on it which obviously isn't feasible when playing. Glad I bought the 2 year warranty.
nearly all the reviews for these products show how they work for guitar. Most of them advertise they work for bass too. Well, I’ve tried many different brands and most of them totally suck for bass. The Swiffs reviewed here are about the worst I’ve tried. Nothing but hiss, distortion and they suck all the bottom out. Don’t even get me started if using them with a bass with active electronics. I even ordered them twice thinking maybe the first set was defective. I wish the reviewers would cover all the features of these things. While I haven’t tried all the products at this price point, of the ones I did try exactly ONE brand produced acceptable results and that one had lousy battery life. The biggest problem is there’s no way to find out if they work for bass without shelling out the $$$ and having to return them when the results are unsatisfactory. I think it would be nice if the reviewers would comment on the bass aspect of these products.
I’ve had many people say this works extremely well for bass. But dude… you spent $50 on a wireless. It’s not going to work with every single type of guitar/bass/amp/pedal. Understand what you are buying. 95% of people are happy with these systems because they understand their limitations for being so cheap. Check out Shure or sennheiser wireless. I’ve reviewed a ton of them on my channel 👍
BTW, there are a number of apps you can download on your phone the will "show" you the RF environment where you are in order to help you make a more informed choice about which frequencies or system to use. Most are pretty good.
@@ScottUhlMusic absolutely, I use one called WiFi Tools and another called WiFiman from my equipment provider Ubiquiti. Either will do the job. But like I said there are many to choose from. Some have some really good graphics as well. The trick is to have a phone and an app that recognizes the 5.8Ghz band. Not all cell phones do.
@@ScottUhlMusic Pretty sure it's just for 2.4 and 5.8. I don't work with frequencies that low anymore. But hey, can't hurt to look. I kinda doubt it now that I think about it. I can't think of a piece of equipment not specifically designed for that freq that you would want to get. AND, your phone definitely wont do it.
I had a pair of these Swiff, and like one other commenter, they did not work for me. Sounds like there is a badly adjusted noise gate that sometimes pops, cutting off the attack transient and flutters on the note tails. I returned it and got the Lekato 5.8 which is working great with all my guitars and basses, active and passive.
I have the best advice for that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html But glad you found one that works for you 🤘🤘
I'm so excited to see a UHF without a little antenna, because I know I'll break those! Might get this and a 5.8ghz backup (had an xvive 2.4ghz for a while but after 3 or 4 years it just stopped one day - shame as it never gave me any trouble, perhaps I'll do as you say and get all three options!)
@@ScottUhlMusic a day down the rabbit hole later, I'm not sure I can use 5.8 here in the UK. Have written to Swiff and Lekato to get confirmation of their UHF bands too... hoping 2.4 isn't my only option!
Thanks for this video. Would there be issues running multiple sets of these simultaneously, or should I get different frequency bands if I needed to run 3 at a time?
Thanks! That’s an old riff from my band Glass Delirium. The song was called Vanished By The Red, and it’s not even on Spotify anymore lol. But on our Facebook page we left a link to a Dropbox to download all our songs if you wanted to listen. Thanks for the sub!
They work but sound dull compared to cable. The volume is lower than cable too. It sounds compressed and you loose the chime in your tone. I'm returning it.
I've had two of this exact unit. The batteries only last for 45 minutes to an hour. Even contacted the seller and they replaced one set with a set that has the same battery problem.
That’s very odd. Mine works great and survives 4 hours. I had 1 bass player and 2 singers in bands I play with, and all 4 of us do not have that problem. Not sure why that’s happening with yours
The less you use it, the longer the battery life will be. However, mine is still going strong. If the internal battery eventually does die, I got a lot of use out of a $50 wireless and would buy another one 👍
Thanks! And no I have not. Some people say the volume is lower, but I never have had that problem. I almost always play direct either into a Helix/HX stomp or acoustic to a direct box 👍
Love your videos and learn much from them. One thing, though....I use various stringed instruments at home and so leave them on a stand. For me, it was necessary to make sure the units had an on/off switch so I wouldn't have to unplug them from the instruments all the time. I didn't notice this on the Swiff unit--I wonder if you can turn them off while in the instruments. Outstanding comparison....your method of testing reminds me a bit of Project Farm, one of my favorites.
Thanks for the great video. I bought a pair of these and I’m very happy with them. However, do you know any transmitter that works with active pick ups?
Thanks! Glad you liked it. And I go over that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
You need to understand that can happen with cheaper gear. There are limited channels. If they do not work for you, you’ll have to spend more to get a Shure or sennheiser model. However, if you are getting interference on these, try pushing the button once on the transmitter and it will change the channel and auto sync with the receiver
Let me know how it is. That one transmits in 2.4ghz frequency, so be sure to watch my “main wireless” video here to understand a few things about those systems th-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic I received the Joyo system in the afternoon and played with it for a while at home. It's very well constructed and worked great, even with our wifi box in the same room as my amps. I walked all around the house and only heard it stumble once. It reports that it will work 8 hours on a single charge, but I haven't had it long enough to prove that. I'll use it at band practice Monday nite, but with my limited use it seems like a solid product, no lag and a good signal. I used my PRS SE Singlecut and my Schecter Damien with active EMGs and both sounded great!
How would two sets of these on stage at the same time work? Would it work or would things potentially get mixed up? Thinking of getting a pair for myself and the other guitarist in the band.
@@ScottUhlMusic I actually ended up getting a pair of these that I had seen on your channel since I last posted a comment. Never ended up getting a second pair, but I can say that they still work after almost a year.
Desgraciadamente en mi caso no me funcionó, lo compré para utilizar mi AX-EDGE pero el cambio de sonido es muy notorio, además cuando toco un piano y hago una 7ma o una 9na hay una interferencia, eso si, cabe señalar que uso el keytar con un Lekato MS1 y funciona de maravilla, en estereo y sin ningun tipo de interferencia, el tema es que queria volver a usar el Lekato como inear, pero bueno, a seguir buscando
If you want to know why it didn’t work, check out this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Vi todos tus videos, el MS1 tambien lo compré gracias a tus consejos, desgraciadamente el WS-50 en mi caso y para lo que yo lo quiero usar no sirve, pero lo probré con un bajo y anda impecable
I just bought it. What i will say is that you get what you pay for. I don’t think it sounds good which by the way is obvious but i think it is overall “ok” sounding wireless system. It didn’t sound so rich like normal cables do which is why i don’t recommend this piece of gear to the professionals. One thing i was really disappointed is that if i even moved just 5 meters or more from the receiver, i would be hearing nasty latency. Its not just noticeable but i couldn’t play my guitar because of the latency. So here’s what it is, it is good for practicing your guitar going wireless but not a good choice for a good live performance. This is my really honest review.
Thanks for your review! I do recommend you watch this video of mine about buying cheap: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
I just got these today, after watching a few of your videos. I bought them because you mentioned that these will work with active pickups. I can confirm these work with active pickups. They work fine with my '87 Charvel Model 4. Thanks for the video(s) on wireless systems Scott. I had no idea what I was doing and these fit the bill just fine. People just have to realize they ARE buying a $50 system. In the world of Amazon people expect high quality for a cheap price. Things don't work that way. I play down my basement and for $50 bucks these things are great. No hiss, no noticeable latency.
Thanks for sharing and I’m glad it’s working well for you!
I used Xvive with serious dropout at home. You previous video inspired me what to look for and I found Swiff and bought it a few weeks ago. Thanks for your very detailed comparison and inspiration to me. The Swiff system is amazing, dead silent without any noise or dropout again. I highly recommend it to all my friends now.
im keen to follow and purchase but they are $145 in Australia unfortunately
@Bullets ForTeeth oh really, are you sure it’s the same? I wondered what the difference was as I found those on eBay too and wondered the difference. Have you got them and are they stable?
@Bullets ForTeeth legend status! thanks heaps man I might take a leap and get the Westshell
This is hissing like crazy on all of my electric guitars when it's on the dirt channel
Cant believe I just payed 150 for xive,might buy this
I bought these in May of 2020 and my friends thought I was nuts because they had never heard of it. But I analyze things and don't just buy what everyone else has. When I checked the product specs I liked what I saw and decided there would be no interference issue at almost anywhere I could imagine. I have played for 4.5 hours and still had battery life left on the indicator mark it was at light #2 which is half. But it's feasible that the battery life was about to jump to the next level lower. Anyway, I have not had one drop out or noise of any kind. Use it on electric and acoustic-electric and it is as reliable and good sounding as any cable. I only wish the device that plugs into the guitar was smaller. But they are all relatively large and in time I'm sure like everything it will get smaller. :-)
Yeah these things are really incredible for sure! I was really impressed
Just got my WS-50. It works with the two basses I tried with it and my wife's electronic fiddle. Sounds good to me! Thanks!
Great to hear!
it is simply INCREDIBLE quality of a video... thank you so much I wasn't expecting someone to be that dedicated to put quality explanation of these so entertaining even!
Thank you 😊
Your channel is the absolute best for anything wireless for musicians, thank you for sharing your experience!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for doing a review on UHF systems. I've been out of music for almost 20 years, but was invited to play a set at jazzfest in New Orleans in early May. At 67, it's probably the last real show I'll ever play, so I accepted the offer and pulled out my old Precisions and bought some strings. I was a wireless guy, but no longer have the old system I did in the early 90s. It never worked anywhere in Atlanta, Denver, NY, DC, or some other larger cities in the States or Europe. A little research suggested that 2.4 might not be the optimal frequency to use if I don't want to be tethered. This video helps a lot. THANK YOU!! Sounds like UHF is the way to go.
Thanks! And also buying higher end wireless definitely helps too. I do suggest watching this video as well: th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K9HUWn4SKi9C4C7D Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you!!
Picked up a set of these to try out a few days ago. The reviews here and elsewhere were mixed regarding compatibility with active pickups but I figured for $50 it was worth a shot. They worked flawlessly with passives, but unfortunately did not play well at all with my active pickup guitar (EMG 81/85 @9v).
When I first plugged in and strummed a few chords it sounded OK so I had high hopes, but as soon as I started playing anything that involved aggressive low string palm muting it started cutting out. My best guess going off what I was hearing through my speakers is that there's some sort of gate in the system that gets hit only when chugging away with higher output actives.
If I rolled off the volume pot on the guitar and/or played with a VERY light touch I could get it to go away. I think that's where some of the confusion on whether or not these work with actives comes from. If you have a lower output active system and/or play a style of music that has little to no palm muting these may work. If you're using EMGs or the equivalent doing aggressive metal or metal-adjacent stuff these probably aren't for you.
They're 3x the price and on a different frequency band, so it's not a direct comparison, but FWIW the NU-X C5-RC has worked flawlessly with my actives and anything else I've plugged it into.
And thanks Scott for all the info on this channel. Seriously helpful!
Thank you for the details in this comment! I really appreciate it, and I hope this answers the questions for some people who watch this video as well! Really appreciate it 🤘🤘
Yes. EMG don't work, sadness.
Give a link to nux please.
The problem with these UHF systems is that they all seem to have a built in noise gate that can't be turned off, and many amazon reviews of the swiff explain that. I have the lekato UHF system and it does the exact same thing. It makes playing at low volumes really annoying because the audio will cut out, and even on the attack of some notes the audio will cut off the transients too. I could hear it on your distorted test, where the audio was cutting in on the transients.
I just shot a video about this. My advice… you are shopping in the most budget part of the store for wireless. Don’t want to mess around with cheap stuff? Save up and buy an entry level Shure or sennheiser system. These work well for me, but it doesn’t sound like you are having much luck with them.
@@ScottUhlMusic Can you link your video on the gating? I cannot find it on your channel.
Ive used these for about a year for both, my cordoba acoustic/electric and my electric bass and it works great.
I own 3 pairs. Love them. 8.5 outta 10. Worth every penny.
Awesome! I just ordered it. I'm with you in that I'm really getting obsessed about avoiding all cables. I would invest in any system (microphones included), as long as it is rechargeable, reliable, and sounds good.
Nice! Welcome to the no cable club 💪 just be careful with using too much cheap wireless all at once if you want to get rid of all cables. Watch this video for a guide for buying wireless and how many are on stage at once: Choosing the Right WIRELESS SYSTEM - A Comprehensive Guide
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Simply the best better than more expensive units I’ve had ,
Nice! I use my sennheiser for really crucial shows but this one is still quite nice
Hope you guys enjoyed the video. Also, right after posting it, I noticed that Lekato actually has one of these that transmit NOT on 2.4 or 5.8, but it doesn't say which frequency it transmits on. However, it's only $42. I haven't tried it though. Has anyone tried this model? amzn.to/3s4wLgW How well did it work for you? Cheers 🤘Also, don't forget to watch my other "master" video on these plug-and-play wireless systems here: th-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/w-d-xo.html
Hi Scott I ordered this and recieved it today. I was hoping it would be different than the swiff ones but I encountered the same exact problem I mentioned before. The notes that cut out are sounding like they were highly compressed when they're picked hard and like I mentioned before it only happens on the neck pickup. I'm returning it and will be exchanging it for the Rowin 2.4g one.
I was looking @ those! A lil cheaper right?! But since I had good success w/the Swiff’s I’ll probably continue with them. Also, if I sit or kick another pair, I can scavenge from my existing boneyard of Swiff unit’s to make another pair…again😭
I have to assume the Lekato, is the same as the Westshell wireless G7 that is on lightning deal today...and also the Swiff WS-70 model. This is good and bad. The good being that all brands review really well...the bad being that I just ordered the Westshell (since it was on lightning deal) but then realized the Lekato (@ $42) has a 15% off coupon, and the Swiff is $42 with an 8% coupon...thus making the Westshell the most expensive of all 3 despite the lightning deal. Well, if you want to add the Lekato to your collection, now is the time to do it.
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 I actually got one a few weeks ago haha, but I'll be doing a video on it next week sometime (I want to use it at my gigs this weekend first). So far it's great
@@affordabletechsolutions6917 funny you should say that. I just found this video after getting my westshell G7's this week. I plugged them in this morning, and I'm happy with what I'm hearing so far, but it's going to take more trials. Also, our band's wireless mic system runs on UHF frequencies, so we'll see if there is any interference in that aspect.
I watched your first video but bought the swiff based on another TH-cam video review. Love it. Had it about 2 weeks. Works great. I also have a Line 6 wireless on my board...it gets dropouts occasionally. Now I saw your new video pop up in my subs feed...and was interested in your review of it. Thumbs up! Confirms my own experience with it.
Awesome! Glad to hear it’s working for you as well. It’s definitely a solid wireless, especially for the price
After you fully charge does it shut off after no use or do you physically have to turn them off?
You have to shut them off, which I prefer. Another wireless has the auto shut off, and I dislike that
this is exactly what i needed to know. I only need wireless for my church gig (I can't completely trust the sound man, need to hear the house) all the others I cable up. I used your link to purchase
Thanks Mark 🤘
Thanks so much for doing these videos!! Really helps us musicians that are on a tight budget!
I accidentally hit the dislike button but quickly realized my mistake and hit the like! 🤣
Thanks! Glad to help 🤘
Excellent video. Great info, concise, to the point and without anything we really don’t need to know. Thank you.
Thank you! 😊
I've used the swiff on many gigs for about 2 years. Never had a problem. Can't believe it's lasted this long
It’s a solid gem!
Fantastic reviews on all of the wireless system you've covered. I like that you only talk about what you know through use and also how you give sound recommendations that are based on your research and logic. And your GIFs in the videos are fitting and funny AF. Thanks
Thanks! Come for the tech talk, stay for the memes 😁
@@ScottUhlMusic yes, sir!
I got my Swift Aundio 2 days ago because of this review. Bro. It's awesome. I LOVE IT!!! Trust me guys, this is the one. It looks great and sounds great. No drop in tone quality. Perfect. THANK YOU!!!
Glad you enjoy it 🤘 just played a show with a guitarist and bass player who both got this wireless and used it too, and they love it too. It’s such a good wireless, especially for that price!
Was about to buy a wireless unit 2 months ago and was watching your other vid. Today i finally was about to pull the trigger on the getaria 5.8ghz, glad that I look at your channel again! I am getting this now, thanks!
Awesome, enjoy your new wireless 🤘
I was about to get this as the latency is as low as the Boss WL-20. (I need it to be low as possible as I use Software FX which already adds around 10ms). However multiple amazon reviewers say this has a noticeable "gate" effect. Is this true? My concern is playing a lot of clean fingerstyle jazz I prefer no type of gate.
People seem to get a gate with metal playing, so you should be fine. I have no problems with a gate with mine and one of my singers uses his at every show.
Thanks for the work you did to arrive at this recommendation !
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First let me say thanks for good videos and helping us people understand the equipment. With that said I have a question/issue and am reaching out…this is pertaining to wireless guitar in specific the Swifi. Allow me to elaborate…..I am primarily a metal/hard rock player. The 80s is when I grew up….lol the decade of decadence….now I use a couple of super strats, I.e. Floyd rose and high gain pick ups etc. I set things down 15 years ago when my children started coming along….this past year I have gotten back in and have been playing for around 40 years total….these days it’s just at the house for myself….I run my amp into a mixing board and into a headphone amp…it sounds killer blah blah blah. After seeing these cheap wireless units I decided I wanted one and your videos helped me to choose the Swifi I experience no drop outs, range is great, no tonal issues that I can hear…but… I have a gain loss is the best way I can describe it. I run my amp around 70-75 percent gain and with the high gain pups…well it’s a face melting tone. So let just lay out an example….when using guitar to 1/4 inch cable to amp….when I’m noodling up on the 12-14 frets and bend or hold a note…for simplicity let’s say that note goes for 8 seconds around 5-6 seconds it goes sonic…meaning it’s the point when the vibration through the pups go into naturally harmonics not volume feedback but high gain harmonic…..killerness!!!! Now when I use the Swifi ….it feels like I have cut the gain down 30% say from 75 to 45….and at that 5-6 second mark the note dissipates it’s not the noise gate altogether it does resemble that and I don’t understand this. Now on the other spectrum I can use the Swifi on the headphones/record out of the amp to my mixer and it sounds normal with no loss of anything tone gain volume nothing…..it is killer….any ideas
Yeah some people have said these cheaper ones give them a gain loss or a noise gate with metal stuff. That’s unfortunately part of the risk with these cheap ones. Try it with your setup, if it doesn’t work return it and try another one is the best advice I’ve come up with for it. Hope that helps!
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for the reply…unfortunately I am beyond the return date…. But I’m ok with it because I started using this from out of the record out to my board and preforms just fine…so I think I will try another one anyway to see if it is ok for the guitar and if it has issues I will have a return period…no harm no fowl….maybe that lekato ws 70 that you seem to like
Lower frequencies have better range too (the larger wavelength is less likely to be damaged in transit over distance), so this seems like a no-brainer!
600mhz is no longer allowed. 600 is now for 4/5Gen cellular
Above 600 is not allowed correct. Which is why I said between 470-600
Thanks for the great videos regarding these assorted wireless doo-hickies. After playing guitar for 50+ years in almost every live situation you can imagine, I recently decided to cut the cord and go wireless. Looking at the endless myriad of these things on Amazon, your vids have been invaluable and after watching this one in particular, I've decided that this is the product to go with and I've just ordered up. I can't wait to stop dragging around a guitar cable in my studio. I just subscribed to your channel as this is the level of quality information I seek.
Thanks! I appreciate it 😊 and enjoy your new wireless 🤘
I know I'm late to the game here. But I bought these a couple of months ago because of this review. And I have to say I'm quite impressed. As a bass player it seems the low end on other wireless systems just "shelf" off around 400k. But not these. I use a modern bass with modern pickups. I do not hear any difference between this system or cabled. Good call Scott. Thanks for keeping it real for us broke-a$$ musicians. Now.... I have some catching up to do with your channel.....
Nice! Glad they’ve been working out well for you 🤘
I stared with the XVibe on a Recommendation from a friend, they were almost 250 bucks Canadian, so I thought at that price point they would be pretty good, they were terrible, They were dropping out like crazy. Then after seeing Scott’s video I like the sound of the Getaria 5.8 mhz, so I bought them and sent the Zvibes back, the Getaria have been working fine, but the other day I saw these on Amazon and ordered them, I think they’re going to be the best ones.
Thanks for the comment! The best strategy in my opinion is to have one on 5.8ghz (like the getaria one you got) and then have one of these on the 900mhz. So if one isn’t working, you have an option and it’s only about $100 for two wireless 👍 so good call!
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I use the Line 6 Relay 50 for shows, but I’m using these cheaper ones for rehearsals and jamming at home.
Thanks for you content, it has really helped me out!!
I use the Swiff, they are great minimal frequency difference (im neurotic about sound) (bass player) like u said how do they sound...Great! Very quite, even with full pumped 2000 watts and overdrive pedals. I usually have Morgami cables, Swiff system is quiter to me... thanx from another brother in Colorado, High to you 💀✌🤟
So far I've used them in practice sessions only, but I can hear the better sound above the 2.5Ghz Gitarre that are now in the depths of my gig bag. The battery life so far is also better.
I think out of ALL the plug and play wireless I’ve reviewed, this one is definitely my favorite
@@ScottUhlMusic I bought mine on the strength of your review. I also have an AKG SR40/PT40 which is really good, but the receiver has to be powered. Which is a right pain. My set up consists of just a floor processor which is really a preamp and I already have to find power for that. But having the physical AKG receiver next to it was a right pain. This gizmo doesn't interfere with the Sennheiser wireless mic either. So happy days. I can't hear the difference between my AKG and this gizmo. Uh. I also have a shure wireless in ear monitor and no interference with that either. So I can whole heartedly recommend this gizmo too.
Great video. I live in Denver I just bought this for a show my band it's always sunny in Tijuana is playing at the end of July at moe's. I liked and subscribed
Nice man! I think my old bands might have played with you guys. Glass Delirium or Tattooed Strings. Either way, I’ve used this system at Moes and it works great 👍 enjoy the new wireless. Thanks!
Thanks for the tip and review Scott! By the way I mentioned I liked the Boss for its durability. One drawback I forgot to mention about the Boss was that it may not work well with sunken tele type input jacks. I had to use a washer on one to get it to activate. The Swiff sounds like a good purchase.
Between the two of these just for build quality and battery life and stuff like that, the boss wins for sure. But this one is about 1/3 the price, and not on 2.4ghz which makes it the winner for me. You are correct on the fact that I like when the wireless doesn’t just stick straight out of the guitar. It looks a little ugly IMO. Glad you enjoyed the video 🤘 If you do end up getting this one, let me know your thoughts on it compared to the Boss one
Will do! I’m glad you informed us on the frequency issues, I had no idea, I am no longer gigging, but you never know!
Bought these. They worked perfectly (pairing) but had a massive impact on the sound. Sucked out all the high end sparkle to my tone. Sending them back.
That’s part of the risk. They work great with my setup, they work great with my singers setup, and they work great for many other comments. But they don’t work with everyone
Thank you for reviewing this. Do you know if this works with active pickups? There is no mention if it does or doesn't on the Amazon page.
My understanding is that they do work with active pickups. But I don’t own any active pickups to try it to confirm myself. But I’m pretty sure they do 👍
Hello, great video congratulations!
Does this equipment fit an Ibanez SD470, SD 570, Fender Stratocaster? I mean where a regular cable is connected
Thanks in advance
Hi i don't recommend SWIFF WS-50 - it has nice audio quality, but have something like threshold gate that switchess off signal when you are not playing. But it does it very often and there is latency for reenabling audio, so it sounds like you have compressor on because it cuts first ms of attack. For long notes it is no problem, but playing short ones with pauses shows this issue.
That hasn’t been my experience, but some people like you have said that, which I address in this video here: th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hJ02R9S9EcGHe6Zx
I've had the Lekato ws-50 (5.8 GHz) for just over a year and never had a problem, however, I HAVE forgotten to charge them and had to fall back to a cable because of that. I like the idea of buying these for redundancy and having the option to try a different band if I ever do have issues. Great advice!
Thanks so much for the information. Very detailed. I'll be getting the SWIFF. I subscribed for sure.
Thanks for the sub! 🤘
I bought this on a whim after searching and reading on wireless systems for about an hour and decided that this was the best pick without seeing or reading any reveiws.. looks like I may of made the right choice.....
Out of all of these types of wireless, and all the specs of them (range, price, frequency, battery, etc) this one is my favorite one
I just bought a pair of these for my Bass, going to try and use them out at a gig in downtown Baltimore, I'll let you guys know how it sounds to me with the low freqs.
Nice job! Just started to get interest in wireless systems. Great advise from someone who actually has used the systems, not just test the systems.
FYI; 2.4hz is also used with home wireless telephones, R/C cars, planes, some adapted to control model outdoor electric & live steam trains, & drones (which are bring used more & more for filming). 5.8hz is in up scale & newer wireless home telephones .
Yup, 2.4ghz is even more crowded with all of those other things as well. I understand why companies make them because they are universally accepted around the world. But that makes it very crowded
I've been using wireless for yrs. 1st with a garbage Nady system then switched to AKG wireless bug system. I went a little crazy and bought 7 different bug set ups. All on different frequencies. The 1 I use the most now has a 2 AAA battery powered receiver and a regular 1 AAA battery for the bug transmitter. That goes to my pedalboard and coming out is a Getaria 5.8 system. I've used these all over with both electric and acoustic/electric guitars. Through amps, P A's, D I boxes. On the beach, in churches with their own wireless systems working, at an outside church with just an acoustic guitar and a keyboard plugged into a rechargeable P A speaker. Everything always sounds real good. Enough to where 1 church guitarist bought 1 of my bug systems and the keyboard guy bought Getaria system for himself.
Aloha brutha!🏝Great vids! I’ve bought 3 pairs of this wireless system over 1yr. I love them! Why 3 sets? Broke one sitting down w/unit not snug to guitar (PRS)…broke a 2nd tripping on receiver attached to my Headrush…broke the 3rd same way I broke the 1st one! Lol! Then, I took parts from all 3 orphaned pairs and rebuilt into 2 working pairs! Plus I reversed the plug on the transmitters so now I can easily check the charge indicators…plus the “on” button now faces out which I think looks wayye cooler! 🤙🏽 one of the solder joints was hanging by only 1 thread of wire (which explained why that unit was so scratchy!) …now strong like bull!🦾😎
Hell, I have about 6 pairs of these plug and play wireless now, I’m not here to judge 😃
Hi Scott, can u somehow configure this peripheral to use air pod pros on a DJ mixer? If not, what would be a solution for that?
That would be Bluetooth that would be best I believe
Picked up these today after my Line6 G10 died last night. The transmitter overheated and now it and the base just blink red.
These were recommended as a replacement. Much cheaper to buy these than replace the Line6 transmitter!
This one is ALMOST perfect. I put the switch to my neck pickup (clean channel on amp) and did some heavy pick attack for funk leads stuff and the notes got cut off. The system couldn't handle too much bass and loud picking or something. Had to return and switch for the Getaria 5.8g one which is better but it added a little gain (not distorted) which is not that bad. I liked the tone in the swiff because it didn't add much gain to the signal.
Are you sure it was cutting out because of the volume of how loud you were hitting the strings? I play pretty heavily and I don’t have that issue... but you never know. Everyone’s setup and playing style is different
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes. I pick hard for the funk stuff. It only cuts off when you pick hard on the individual notes. And ONLY when the neck pickup is engaged. It's weird because it doesn't do that on the bridge and I have a high gain pickup (tone zone). I tried it with my other guitars and it does the same. Don't know if mine was faulty.
That’s really strange..: I’ll have to test that out myself and see if I can get the same result. Thanks for letting me know!
Thanks Scott Uhl for making these wireless system videos. They really helped me ALOT. Specially the DIY budget IEM video.
Thanks! Glad you’ve found them helpful 🤘
Hey Scott! I loved your review of the SWIFF WS-50, and now see SWIFF advertising the WS-70 and WS-70+. I haven't been able to get feedback directly from the company on the differences in these newer (?) versions of the WS-50, and wondering if you'd had a chance to take a look at them.
I haven’t, so I’m not sure what the difference is to be honest
I've sent the Swiff WS-50 back as it was sucking too much tone out of the sound. When using the WS-50 there is a 5dB level drop (which is a lot) compared to plugging the instrument directly into the amp. There is also less treble and less bass. I put this down to the fact that the frequency range of the WS-50 is 30Hz to 16Khz, whereas there is apparently a new version available in some territories (the Swiff WS-70) that has a frequency range of 20hz to 20Khz which may solve these problems. BTW, I have been A/B-ing the WS-50 with a bass guitar which may make the bass roll-off more apparent. All I need to do now is find someone who can supply the Swiff WS-70 in the U.K.!
30hz-16khz should not be a problem. I program my stuff to get rid of below 100 and above 8k anyways for a cleaner tone. I do not hear the loss in quality at all from these, but tone is up to the listener. A volume cut doesn’t bother me, because I can just turn my output up, but again.... I do not hear it. No worries either way and thanks for the comment 👍
I've had the WS-70 for a few months now and can confirm that is MUCH better than the WS-50. It runs at 20khz instead of 16khz so the tone is much better and there is less volume drop.
I have 3 models: Lekato WS-60 (mono and stereo), Lekato A8, and Swiff Audio WS-50.
WS-50 has the best stable connection, but unfortunately the transmitted sound quality is poor. Try playing music through , you will definitely hear that something is wrong.
Mine works great but That can happen sometimes, and I address it in this video here: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Mate you're so right. I've got in ear monitors on 2.4ghz, wireless mic on 5.8ghz and now my 2.4ghz wireless guitar doesn't work so now I need 800-900mhz guitar wireless ha!
Can’t use too much cheap wireless 👍 th-cam.com/video/Xgw96rY4TAc/w-d-xo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah! I’ve got pro level wireless in ears and microphones for my band but for my solo acoustic gigs these are okay. Basically you buy cheap you pay twice!
Why is the output on these lower than the rest. Have you checked it. I noticed when I plugged mine in to my Helix versus even cheaper 2.4 GHz ones The output is slightly lower so obviously there's less response and distortion that you have to fix trying to add game to the input weird..
Happens on no matter what channel
I go over that possibility in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Westshell also has a UHF unit actually was trying to find a demo on which ended up bringing me here thanks for the info on UHF
I believe that’s basically the same thing 👍
I bought the ws-50 and they suck!
There is a gate built-in to block the white noise. Also it fails a lot when using attack from trouble strings.
Not happy.
What type of guitar are you using? This one has worked amazing for me and almost everyone else I’ve heard they loved these. BUT…. You also paid $50 for a wireless. Might have to spend the extra money to get a good wireless for your specific setup
I'm sorry to report I bought this on your recommendation and it sounded terrible. It very noticeably muffled the tone. It was the first cheap wireless I tried after my old Carvin wireless died. I'm reluctant to try the other cheap offerings now if they're all similar in tone quality.
That’s the thing with these cheap wireless. They will not with with every configuration/guitar/pickup/etc. Our singer used two of them at our gig yesterday (one electric and one acoustic) and they worked fantastic.
You can try another cheap wireless if you don’t like these, or you can spend the money to get a nice Shure or sennheiser system for $400-$600. Hope that helps 👍
after I saw all your videos about this.. I'm getting confused, which one should I buy? 😑
Try this one. If it doesn’t work, return it and try another one. You are shopping for the cheapest wireless out there. Just manage expectations
I saw an ad for the CFG (Cable Free Guitar) C-01 which got me searching for reviews where I found both of your great videos. Thank you for those! They were both very informative.
The C-01 is the newly upgraded model to CFG’s A8 wireless system, which incorporates the swivel design that the A8 didn’t have. The A8 is currently on sale for $49.90 (normally $100) and the C-01 is on sale for $74.90 (normally $150).
My question about these two units regards frequency. On their website it says both utilizes UHF 730MHz. How does this work with the ranges you have indicated in this video?
Thanks, again, for you straight-forward, informative videos! Keep them coming!
730mhz technically is "not allowed" to be used in the USA. 470-600mhz or 900-928mhz are the legal UHF frequencies
Every one of these I've tried cannot handle loud pickups. And the youtube videos never mention is. How were these?
Then stop looking at cheap wireless. Here’s a great Shure one: th-cam.com/video/k5OM4GUJNvQ/w-d-xo.html
Here’s the main one l use that is incredible: th-cam.com/video/rWVF0tv8zCM/w-d-xo.html
I mention constantly in my videos that some of these cheaper ones cannot handle every pickup or amp/pedal setup. I’ve even reviewed one that is specifically designed for active pickups: th-cam.com/video/FtI8tnW5TeU/w-d-xo.html
This Swiff one seems to work very well with most pickups. But there is no way for me to test them with every combo of pickups/pedal/amp. If these cheap wireless aren’t working for you and your setup……… get a Shure BLXR for $400 👍
I remember back in the day most stuff ran on VHF which was the 'busy' network and then they started putting out wireless that ran on UHF which almost nothing was running on so it seemed to work well,but I personally never had an issue with VHF either so I never bought one.
I definitely trust UHF over 2.4 right now for sure. I’ve had much more success with those!
@@ScottUhlMusic right on
I think you have an excellent perspective on wireless systems. I, too, have a Shure for important gigs, but 99% of the time, I use these cheaper systems. In particular, I use the Blackwing (probably originally named BlackWang :-) ) I bought it based on your recommendation. I wanted to note that the first one I received had to be returned, because the jack on the receiver was wobbling in the housing. Otherwise, the system has been stable, and I've never had a dropout.
So thanks mucho not just for the reviews, but especially for your thoughts on tone and th use of cheaper systems.
Thanks! And yup, that’s part of the risk of buying cheap. I’m glad you understand that 🤘
Purchased two from your drop down, the amoon and swiss. Will use for my Acoustic. I use Sennheiser's for my Electric. Will let ya know, great video's. .
Thank you! Let me know what you think 🤘 I have had great luck with both units so far
Thank you for the review. I am not a musician but see a use for this in the DJ world as I would like to transmit a signal from my console to a wireless pa speaker and/or daisy chain from one speaker to the next. I hope this works as running cable across doorways are a hassle.
Have you heard of this application?
I do know about the Sure and Senn systems but on a budget.
Yup! This is what I use for wireless for PA speakers and it works great: WIRELESS XLR System w/ PHANTOM POWER! Kimafun XLR Wireless Review/Demo
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Hey I love my WS-50s! Does anyone know if you can use 2 x WS-50 transmitters and send to 1 x receiver? I was thinking of sending a guitar and a keyboard to my pedalboard rather than using an ABY pedal. Thoughts?
I do not believe you can
I got a set of those 5.8 ammoon ones for 24 bucks on sale.
Swiff "I'm not like the other girls" Audio
If this isn’t their new website slogan, I’ll be upset!
Hi, do you think those swiff ws50 may have two hardware versions? I just bought a pair of these and i've immediately noticed a HUGE tone difference from a cable. Massive high and low loss, volume drop and the gate is a little annoying with PMs
Watch this video to find out why that can happen and what to do about it: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Ordered the Lekato 2.4 AND the Swiff. Both had noticeable audio quality degradation. The hissssss coming from the Swiff even when idle, made them unusable to me. So unless there is an unfair amount of defective product out there, I find these unusable.
These work great for me, but not for everyone. That’s the risk with cheap wireless. Go for Shure or sennheiser if you don’t want to risk it.
I own the swiff and they do last.... I play multiple 4 hour gigs weekly and they last no problem especially if you shut them down during break. I can't figure out if you can add multiple transmitters to one receiver, like some others do. If anybody knows how to do that please let me know. The distance is insane by the way. I have an amp in basement and I went 100 across basement then upstairs out to driveway then to middle of cul-de-sac before starting to loose any sound....
I don’t believe you can, but I’m glad it’s been working so well for you!
Thank you Scott,I read one comment/reply,them being used for base,have you tested them for base?thanks,Fred Hammer nz
They seem to work well with bass. But the definitive answer is here: th-cam.com/video/xRmmgrQoHZU/w-d-xo.html
Ours stopped working correctly after about 8 months. Basically they no longer seat all the way in. Ive tried multiple guitars and same result. The only way the transmitter works is if I put pressure on it which obviously isn't feasible when playing. Glad I bought the 2 year warranty.
Yeah when you buy cheap that’s part of the risk for sure! Mine is still working great, but that can happen for sure
nearly all the reviews for these products show how they work for guitar. Most of them advertise they work for bass too. Well, I’ve tried many different brands and most of them totally suck for bass. The Swiffs reviewed here are about the worst I’ve tried. Nothing but hiss, distortion and they suck all the bottom out. Don’t even get me started if using them with a bass with active electronics. I even ordered them twice thinking maybe the first set was defective. I wish the reviewers would cover all the features of these things. While I haven’t tried all the products at this price point, of the ones I did try exactly ONE brand produced acceptable results and that one had lousy battery life. The biggest problem is there’s no way to find out if they work for bass without shelling out the $$$ and having to return them when the results are unsatisfactory. I think it would be nice if the reviewers would comment on the bass aspect of these products.
I’ve had many people say this works extremely well for bass. But dude… you spent $50 on a wireless. It’s not going to work with every single type of guitar/bass/amp/pedal. Understand what you are buying. 95% of people are happy with these systems because they understand their limitations for being so cheap. Check out Shure or sennheiser wireless. I’ve reviewed a ton of them on my channel 👍
BTW, there are a number of apps you can download on your phone the will "show" you the RF environment where you are in order to help you make a more informed choice about which frequencies or system to use. Most are pretty good.
Interesting... I would definitely like to check those out. Any in particular that you recommend?
@@ScottUhlMusic absolutely, I use one called WiFi Tools and another called WiFiman from my equipment provider Ubiquiti. Either will do the job. But like I said there are many to choose from. Some have some really good graphics as well. The trick is to have a phone and an app that recognizes the 5.8Ghz band. Not all cell phones do.
Ah gotcha, so it’s for 2.4 and 5.8ghz only correct? Still helpful for sure! I was just wondering how it would work for the 470-600mhz range
@@ScottUhlMusic Pretty sure it's just for 2.4 and 5.8. I don't work with frequencies that low anymore. But hey, can't hurt to look. I kinda doubt it now that I think about it. I can't think of a piece of equipment not specifically designed for that freq that you would want to get. AND, your phone definitely wont do it.
I had a pair of these Swiff, and like one other commenter, they did not work for me. Sounds like there is a badly adjusted noise gate that sometimes pops, cutting off the attack transient and flutters on the note tails. I returned it and got the Lekato 5.8 which is working great with all my guitars and basses, active and passive.
I have the best advice for that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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But glad you found one that works for you 🤘🤘
I'm so excited to see a UHF without a little antenna, because I know I'll break those! Might get this and a 5.8ghz backup (had an xvive 2.4ghz for a while but after 3 or 4 years it just stopped one day - shame as it never gave me any trouble, perhaps I'll do as you say and get all three options!)
Smart plan to get a backup on 5.8ghz as well with cheap ones!
@@ScottUhlMusic a day down the rabbit hole later, I'm not sure I can use 5.8 here in the UK. Have written to Swiff and Lekato to get confirmation of their UHF bands too... hoping 2.4 isn't my only option!
Thanks for this video. Would there be issues running multiple sets of these simultaneously, or should I get different frequency bands if I needed to run 3 at a time?
3 should be fine in most situations, just remember the more cheap wireless you use, the more you up the chances of it not working
Hey how's it going! What is your opinion about the WL-20L Boss audio wireless system?
I like the Swiff better 👍
Crap over volume distortion . I Run Class A Tube Amps Many for 56 Years ! Cords will never let you down ..
I’ll take a wireless any day over a cable 💪
Are you just noodling at 2:56 or is that from some tune? Very cool, whatever it is.
Good review. Just subscribed.
Thanks! That’s an old riff from my band Glass Delirium. The song was called Vanished By The Red, and it’s not even on Spotify anymore lol. But on our Facebook page we left a link to a Dropbox to download all our songs if you wanted to listen. Thanks for the sub!
They work but sound dull compared to cable. The volume is lower than cable too. It sounds compressed and you loose the chime in your tone. I'm returning it.
Thanks for your feedback. I definitely disagree with you, and think it sounds great, but tone is up to the listener.
I've had two of this exact unit. The batteries only last for 45 minutes to an hour. Even contacted the seller and they replaced one set with a set that has the same battery problem.
That’s very odd. Mine works great and survives 4 hours. I had 1 bass player and 2 singers in bands I play with, and all 4 of us do not have that problem. Not sure why that’s happening with yours
Will the life cycle of the batteries be longer if I DON'T use the wireless on each and every gig?
The less you use it, the longer the battery life will be. However, mine is still going strong. If the internal battery eventually does die, I got a lot of use out of a $50 wireless and would buy another one 👍
Bought this Swiff...only issue is a buzz using it with an active preamp...but passive is fine...sounds great
Hey Tony! 2 years after buying your Swiff Audio, are you still feeling pretty good about it?
Still my #1 recommended one for the CHEAP wireless.
Shout out to the 'Cold & Ugly' riff. Thank you sir.
I don’t know why, that’s just always been one of my main “Soundcheck riffs” 😁
@@ScottUhlMusic hahaha, wow, that's what i used to do in sound checks as well.
Great video. Thank you! Have you noticed a gate attinuation at low volume/dynamics with this model or any of the others you reviewed?
Thanks! And no I have not. Some people say the volume is lower, but I never have had that problem. I almost always play direct either into a Helix/HX stomp or acoustic to a direct box 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Great. Thanks, Scott!
Love your videos and learn much from them. One thing, though....I use various stringed instruments at home and so leave them on a stand. For me, it was necessary to make sure the units had an on/off switch so I wouldn't have to unplug them from the instruments all the time. I didn't notice this on the Swiff unit--I wonder if you can turn them off while in the instruments. Outstanding comparison....your method of testing reminds me a bit of Project Farm, one of my favorites.
Thanks! And you can turn it on and off. It’s not with a switch but with a button, and it’s pretty easy to do 🤘
can we get an update on how they are working now, i want to see if it works long-term
Working great! This is still the first one I recommend for those looking for cheap wireless.
@@ScottUhlMusic thank you for answering my question, and in the exact same hour i even asked the question. that's just impressive!
Thanks for the great video. I bought a pair of these and I’m very happy with them. However, do you know any transmitter that works with active pick ups?
Thanks! Glad you liked it. And I go over that in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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@@ScottUhlMusic thanks 🙏
Just bought these and they drop out from time to time. OK most of the time Very annoying. What do you suggest?
You need to understand that can happen with cheaper gear. There are limited channels. If they do not work for you, you’ll have to spend more to get a Shure or sennheiser model. However, if you are getting interference on these, try pushing the button once on the transmitter and it will change the channel and auto sync with the receiver
Just ordered the WS-50! Thank you!
Nice! Enjoy 🤘
I ordered a Joyo system just to see if it's worth the 50 bucks.
Let me know how it is. That one transmits in 2.4ghz frequency, so be sure to watch my “main wireless” video here to understand a few things about those systems th-cam.com/video/A2183MfZWgQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic I did see that and was compelled to try one out, that's when I saw that Joyo had 5 stars...thanks, Scott!
Let me know how it works for you 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic Will do.
@@ScottUhlMusic I received the Joyo system in the afternoon and played with it for a while at home. It's very well constructed and worked great, even with our wifi box in the same room as my amps.
I walked all around the house and only heard it stumble once. It reports that it will work 8 hours on a single charge, but I haven't had it long enough to prove that.
I'll use it at band practice Monday nite, but with my limited use it seems like a solid product, no lag and a good signal. I used my PRS SE Singlecut and my Schecter Damien with active EMGs and both sounded great!
Hello thanks for the video. Here are other models maybe worth checking as well : the Harley Benton guitar Wireless and Ibanez ones
How would two sets of these on stage at the same time work? Would it work or would things potentially get mixed up? Thinking of getting a pair for myself and the other guitarist in the band.
Two would be fine… but the more cheap wireless gear you use at once, the more likely there will be a drop out. But two should usually be fine 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I actually ended up getting a pair of these that I had seen on your channel since I last posted a comment. Never ended up getting a second pair, but I can say that they still work after almost a year.
@@andrewg5373 Nice! Yeah they are really great wireless for sure!
Can I use two identical Swiff units on a gig? One for electric and one for acoustic?
Yeah, you can use two pairs at once
Desgraciadamente en mi caso no me funcionó, lo compré para utilizar mi AX-EDGE pero el cambio de sonido es muy notorio, además cuando toco un piano y hago una 7ma o una 9na hay una interferencia, eso si, cabe señalar que uso el keytar con un Lekato MS1 y funciona de maravilla, en estereo y sin ningun tipo de interferencia, el tema es que queria volver a usar el Lekato como inear, pero bueno, a seguir buscando
If you want to know why it didn’t work, check out this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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@@ScottUhlMusic Vi todos tus videos, el MS1 tambien lo compré gracias a tus consejos, desgraciadamente el WS-50 en mi caso y para lo que yo lo quiero usar no sirve, pero lo probré con un bajo y anda impecable
I just bought it. What i will say is that you get what you pay for. I don’t think it sounds good which by the way is obvious but i think it is overall “ok” sounding wireless system. It didn’t sound so rich like normal cables do which is why i don’t recommend this piece of gear to the professionals. One thing i was really disappointed is that if i even moved just 5 meters or more from the receiver, i would be hearing nasty latency. Its not just noticeable but i couldn’t play my guitar because of the latency. So here’s what it is, it is good for practicing your guitar going wireless but not a good choice for a good live performance. This is my really honest review.
Thanks for your review! I do recommend you watch this video of mine about buying cheap: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Did it drop out on distortion demo or it was a cut loop? Also is this good for active pickups?
Answered in this video: What Is The BEST CHEAP WIRELESS SYSTEM - Part III
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Fixing to order these
Along with some DiMarzios S D humbuckers
i will buy this soon.. I have NUX C5rc, Lekato Ws70 in 2.4.. now im interested into this.. thanks for the Demo
Good choice!