Concerning the new GLXD I played 2 3hour gigs and still tells me I have 12 hours left. But of course I have a replacement Batterie in spare. You never know…😉😀
dude i've watched one video of yours a month and a half ago about iems and since then i get suggestions of your vids EVERY DAY and it's never the same video. how much have you worked on this subject???? you are the one stop channel for this 👏
Haha thanks man. It’s a lot of work for sure… editing takes forever! But it’s worth it to see the growth of the channel and how much it’s helpful to people 🤘
I've been watching this channel for a couple weeks and finally subscribed. Such a large amount of information I can't believe you don't have more subscribers. Keep up the awesome videos!
And scan after everyone and everything is setup and on. I push the scan right before soundcheck. Even better, buy one that then auto switches once setup and it fights interference for you. I use Shure for wireless guitar and Sennheiser for IEM.
Best channel I know regarding this sort of stuff. Clear, concise, extremely helpful. You've helped me get my set up going and I really appreciate that!
WOW! This has to be one of the most informative videos on wireless mics I've seen. What a goldmine! Easy to understand and straight to the point. Thank you sir. Peace out !
Hi! Just a Scan works when you have few channels and you might get lucky. It can also work when you have loads of channels, but again, if you get lucky. The most important step after scan is to do frequency coordination, and that might be why the sound guy didn’t want to go with a simple scan. You can find free channels with a scan, but it won’t check for intermodulation and other problems it might occur when you start using that free frequency. The right way is to scan with an RF analyzer and leave the scan running for the longest time you can. Usually you can setup RF analyzer and laptop to scan continuously even when you do your backline setup if you have that chance, and then import the scan file into a software like shure workbench. Import all frequencies into the calculations and the software will calculate the frewuencies for your RF devices. I can try to help further if you have questions as I do frequency coordination on a daily basis. Best!
Yeah for sure if you have an RF analyzer that’s always best for sure. Most bands don’t, and a scan is definitely the most helpful without it. I think the sound guy just didn’t want to change channels because he wanted to keep them where they were. But you are correct, frequency manager with a laptop is best if you can! But most people don’t have that, so scanning is great in that case 👍 Thanks!
@@ScottUhlMusic but is good practice to use the software even if you have no way how to import a scan into calculations. If you scan a free channel/frequency, even though it’s free at the time of the scan, it doesn’t mean it will be a good frequency when every wireless devices are active. So if you have all frequencies in the software, and you run a scan on your microphone and a new frequency, you can insert that frequency into the software and check for intermods with the frequencies you are using. This would be my advice for those who want to make it more advance, but have no access to a RF explorer for example…
@Scott I would be surprised if a band had an RF analyzer but with Shure SLX-D and above receivers you dont need a one. If you connect a laptop to the receivers over ethernet you can use one or all of the receivers to perform a scan in Wireless Workbench (WWB) and then calculate the best frequencies to use for all your other devices. You can even use WWB to coordinate non Shure devices.
Late to this useful video! My personal revelation after several gigs with my IEM was… the reason I was getting interference during setup & sound check but it tended to go away during the actual show was that before the first set I would take off the big bunch of keys hanging on my belt, right next to the IEM receiver. No keys, no interference!
Re-scanning at every gig can be problematic too.. You can simply go round and round in circles if you have quite a few systems. Setting maximum spacing (with a little further adjustment) before the gig is a good start, then shift an occupied channel if necessary. There may just be broadband noise at a gig. Trying to find clear channels at a gig can be a nightmare!
misate #4 14:50 .... we are rocking our 22 sennheisers without any external antena :D all burried in closed racks even on big stages :D we will get antena spliters eventualy but doing great since 2013 :D
For IEMs one thing I cannot recommend enough is a good external antenna. Those little 1/4 wave whips that ship with the transmitters are... not good. I'm currently running an Audio Technica ATW-3255 and a Phenyx Pro PTM-10 in my band's setup. With the included 1/4 wave antennas mounted on the front of the rack things were just never quite right. There were always spots, at home, on stage or even in my band's tiny little practice room, where it would sound kind of fizzy or even momentarily drop out entirely. It was never unusable to the point where I would prefer the alternative of a blown out monitor wedge, but always enough to be annoying. Not just on the Phenyx either. The much pricier A-T unit performed better, but still short of perfect. I added an RF Venue passive combiner ($99) and a Sennheiser U-1031 passive omnidirectional antenna ($180), mounted on a mic stand about chest high and everything is so much better. Dropouts are non existent. No more of those fizzy half dropouts (may have been multipath from the rackmount antennas being so close the floor?), and most surprisingly, setting aside the dropout/reliability issue entirely, the sound quality just seems all around better. I was planning on dropping another $1300 to replace that Phenyx Pro with another A-T unit and 2 receivers ASAP, but I'm honestly now considering just sticking with the Phenyx since it seems to be working so well with the combiner and external antenna setup.
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah, it's wild how well that antenna has worked for me. Might be the best $180 I've ever spent on gear. Just plugged it in and all my RF reception issues instantly went away.
Although full disclaimer the mic stand may actually be the real silver bullet here. It's possible that simply remotely mounting the stock antennas up away from the rack and the floor could have solved my problem too. But placing any reasonable dollar value on my time, I'm coming out ahead buying the RF venue combiner and Sennheiser antenna instead of figuring out some way to jury rig the 1/4 waves up in the air somewhere.
I bought a Phenyx PTG-11 wireless guitar system. True diversity 100 channel receiver and it was around 150 dollars and I must admit it is a great sounding system. Plus the case it came in is as nice as it gets. I thought I would be taking a chance since it was very affordable and the cheaper 60 80 dollar units did not have as many channels available and their receivers were a bug just like the transmitters so when I came across the Phenyx it was a no brainer for just a little more cost wise. The only drawback is it only works with passive pickups but, I only use passive so it was not an issue for me. I am very impressed with the fact that my tone is there when I go from a chord to the transmitter. This unit is excellent and the price is a dream.
Great video. I had a disaster with my microphones at an event recently and I believe I could have been simply resolved by re-scanning my groups and channels. Thank you!
Once again simple but incredible useful/valuable information for someone who uses IEM’s. Thanks so much for taking the time to post this. This info will help me out!
Oh dear, thank you for this! I came across this video a bit too late for our first upcoming gig with IEM, but at least now I have a decent idea why 2 out of 5 of us have intermittent drop outs with our cheap gear. 🥴
Awesome! I can't tell you how happy I am to find your channel! I've been running sound out of necessity for awhile and have only picked up knowledge here and there. This video goes a long way for me. Thank you!
Oh man. I needed this! Im using way too much wireless! 7 wireless IEMs from Phenyx and a 6 Shure 900mhz digital ..... way too much stuff. 900Mhz has become really busy! My Guess is that getting all my IEMS onto a single channel should clear up some dropouts!
This is some great great info! Challenge #1, a show with a box of old Nady 1s, the opening band’s borrowed guitars, and 1/5th of old no.7! Jk! A phone with a noolec sdr dongle would likely be great kit to carry! You can navigate the waterfall of signals affordably. Plus, listen to the cops breaking up the chaos as you slip out the back!
I'm a professional sound engineer and a hobby musician. I can confirm everything you said and it's not really common for a musician to have all that knowledge you gathered. I even actually have to argue with sound colleges about some of these points from time to time 😮
thank you so much for ALL your video's! I didn't even know you neede to scan! Also how the signals work in relation to each others. Crystal clear explaned and still learning of each video, thank you so much man!
I wouldn’t recommend it. But it’s possible. You never know, these are guidelines, not flat out rules. It always depends on the environment. Those are budget friendly wireless. Using 2 is what it’s meant for. I personally would go for higher end wireless if you need 6
Man, I was about to make all those mistakes. I am going to start live loop performing and some acoustic gigs, I am so glad I ran into this video. Subscribed.
Senn XSW-D auto-scans, good tip but never had a problem. Shure PGXDs have also been rock solid for karaoke gigs. The RF pattern on those omni antennas is shaped like a donut with the antenna right through the hole, that’s an easy way to remember it. Buying midrange wireless gear used is maybe a little more than low-end new, but it’ll hold value better and be a better product. Senn EW-D and Shure PGXD / GLXD stuff is getting more affordable these days, and again I’ve had really good luck with the XSW-D line.
Scott, great explanation. I agree will all of your assessments as I have been doing wireless for the last 15 + years and can sing the Wireless Blues! One touchy subject is the use of the 2.4GHz band for wireless. I started using SLX for a bit then Line 6 wireless came out and we replaced all with Line 6. They were good sounding mics and you could change the model, etc. However after several years, maybe up to 2015, we started to have dropouts of the V75 HH mics and eventually the Guitar Relay series as well. We now have switched all over to QLX-D where we have plenty of channels and our IEMs are PSM 900. Very expensive at this point, but we don't have dropouts! I recently bought those X-Live ones that operate on 2.4GHz and they are complete dropout junk. IMHO, I would not recommend anyone buy any wireless that operates on 2.4GHz. 2.4GHz is way too crowded as most wireless routers are transmitting on 2.4GHz as well as all the blue tooth devices. STAY AWAY from 2.4GHz DEVICES!!!
This was a really great and well done video! very thorough and you took the time to repeat things, especially important things that help drive the point home. I just finished the ultimate compact all-in-one rack with 6x Shure SLXD mics, 4x PSM300 IEMs, both with Shure Distribution and Antenna Combiners all plugged nicely into a Presonus Studiolive 32R. This weekend I'm adding an Art S8 XLR splitter so we can do the Vocal mics split out to a separate sound system for FOH and still keep our rig and channels intact and getting a custom stage snake with dual XLR male end cable snakes to split our instruments as well with FOH.
Hey Scott I have the phenyx PTM 22 iems and Shure BLX4 wireless mics. I have tried to have the receivers in the same rack space but I get interference whenever I do this. Have you experienced this before? Hoping for a solution! Thanks
The blx without the rack antennas definitely doesn’t play nice with in ear monitors. Thats very true. I tried to have mine in a rack with my iems and had problems with the blx before. I suggest upgrading and watching my comprehensive guide: th-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_90-dJNDl8gjyXE7
I'm still learning on how to setup networking with a spectrum analyzer for RF coordination moving forward I only plan on buying wireless gear with built in Ethernet connection for network
Very informative and easy to understand. With the background at first I thought you were going for the Count Dracula look because the big black collars. Anyway thanks again. Do you have a TH-cam clip of your band playing live you would recommend watching?
Lol you are the 2nd person to point that out and now I cannot unsee it 😂 For my original Music (Spiral Cell) here’s a concert I did during quarantine: th-cam.com/video/dFF6dgxD_5E/w-d-xo.html
Great video, I have a Phenyx Pro PTU-2U. I used it at an event recently, I am a DJ. I wanted to make my set up look clean so I put the receiver under my DJ table which is covered by a cloth. I did scan for new channels once most people were in the venue but I noticed One of my mics still had drop outs while the other one was perfectly fine. I found when it dropped out it didn't work again until I turned off and turned back on or scan again. I guess having the receiver under the table is a no no??. It wasn't on the floor. I even changed batteries before the event
Old skool guitarist here. Subbed to this channel because I have much to learn about this wireless stuff and new tech. I play mostly on ourdoor stages, usually concrete all around. Nobody else in the band has a wireless system, but I assume the sound techs do because a lot of them are mixing on an iPad. How much do cell phones affect a wireless signal? I'm hoping I can get away with a less expensive system since there will hopefully be less interference than if there were more wireless systems being used close to me?
Hey Scott, great video! I'm wondering where IN the rack the receiver should be installed. Should it be far from my power conditioner? I've got my Power up top, tuner, sansamp and then the wireless receiver. Am I overthinking this maybe?
I’m in charge of sound for my band we run about 16 wireless systems with in ears and I don’t scan any receiver except 1. All I need is to scan with 1 axient receiver and wireless workbench deploys channels to the others. If I were to scan every receiver that would take longer
The antenna combiner is an interesting concept. However, coming from the ham radio world, it has always been common knowledge that antennas that are only receiving a signal can be very close to each other. Think about those who are short wave listeners and have 5 or 6 receiving antennas in close proximity on their roofs. There is no interference with another receiving antenna when an antenna is only receiving signal. A parking lot of cars at Wal-Mart will all receive the local radio station without interference from the other cars. So if you have 4 Shure wireless units in your rack, all receiving a signal from a certain microphone frequency some distance away, there are no transmitting antennas in close proximity to interfere with that signal, correct? For IEM's, I can see the propagation argument better, as antennas in close proximity to each other are transmitting to the body packs. I also do not understand the concept of tilting the antennas 90 degrees apart for UHF/VHF which both utilize vertical propagation. If anyone has any science behind these concepts, please let me know.
Do you have a tutorial on how to position paddle antennas? I have a paddle antenna for wireless mics and a paddle antenna for wireless IEM. I have a lot of problems with dropouts.
Not particularly on placement, but these videos should help: th-cam.com/video/f3gDWJc9phA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=aWNMhX8Fs4FBAXOg th-cam.com/video/m6Q3L4a63bQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hqE0htAn-Y2_SQ3x th-cam.com/video/fV1SJzLHwPI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BRhETHPlIA2vFaS0 Interesting that you are having problems even with a combiner
Thanks for the video Scott. I am currently racking my Sennheiser EW 500 guitar system receiver along with my Shure PSM 300 IEM transmitter. This is probably not best practice but I have not found any info anywhere that says don't do it. It is convenient and easy to transport this way. I'm also using a Shure GLXD16 ( 2.4 ver) for my acoustic guitar that sits on my board. Any thoughts, advice? We have 1 high end Shure Wireless Mic, 3 Shure IEM systems, another 2.4 guitar system, and we use a 2.5/5ghz wiifi router to give the band access for their own monitor mix. We run a splitter for the FOH guys. The Sennheiser has quite a broad range and so far I haven't had significant interference, but I do experience occasional drops in my IEM. I am scanning the IEM and Sennheiser each new venue and I have the GXLD which auto scans set to group 4 channel 1 supposedly best for reducing interference. Also what is that small single unit travel case you show in the video?
If you just have two in a rack that’s usually fine… it’s when you have a bunch in a rack that there’s a problem. More than 3/4 is when I recommend spacing them out or getting a combiner
Scott, you're the man! been running an awesome IEM rig with my band for a year now (thanks to your help). Im trying to eliminate the dreaded heap of twisted cables just like you were. We already run wireless in ears and wireless guitars BUT.. I need more, im in too deep in the vast freedom of wireless. Is it technically possible to connect our 3 kempers to our X32 mixer with some wireless transmitters and receivers?
Thanks! Glad to help! And you can do that yes, but you could also just put your kempers in a rack near the x32 and trigger them via midi if you are interested in that. But yes, any wireless can be wireless for kemper into mixer. I’ve done that many times with my helix and hx stomp
Very informative, shared this with several people, thanks! Quick question, what are your thoughts on Carvin IEM systems (EM900’s)? Been using them for several years now and really like’em for the price, but have seen few reviews and am curious of your thoughts on them.
No problem having lots of receiver antennas together, or lots of transmitters, just don't mix them or have them so close that they become detuned or loaded by the adjacent antenna. Combiners have losses and their own intermodulation limits. Adding that loss may be useful though.
First thing to do is set the gain on the mic. They will actually overload with a loud singer, if a setting is used for conferences etc. causing compression and feedback problems.
Love your stuff man have learned a lot from your channel. What do you think of the Sennheiser ew 300 IEM g2 transmitter and receiver. I know someone selling a few units used. They are pretty old and I am just getting into wireless gear so I’m a little nervous about purchasing these and them not working. Appreciate you brother!!!
Thanks! And the G3 and G4 are very common and really reliable. I’m not as familiar with the G2 model, but I’m willing to bet they are great. Just make sure you check the frequency band for which ones are allowed in your area/country. A lot of people sell ones for super cheap when they are no longer “legal” to use.
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for replying so quick man!!! I believe these will still work in my area. It’s saying in the manual that the frequency’s are from 518 - 866. I’m in Canada and the Canadian website is saying 500 is good for anyone to use. The price seems a bit to good to be true for 1000 bucks for 4 units and a rack case. I’m going to check them out today and get to scoop!! Thanks for your help brother!!!! All the best.
Well done and very informative. High end systems (meaning expensive) for me is out of the question so prudent selection from the cheap ones is my goal. In a small band (guitar, bass, and electronic drums) would it be advisable to use a particular frequency group for speaker connections, instruments,vocals and in ears so they don’t collide with each other? Without the frequency scan capability of the high end units; is there another way to scan to see what’s available? Thanks dude and you are truly an inspiration! Think I’ll watch the other wireless tutorial you suggested yet again. They’re all so good!
Thanks, glad you like the videos. If you are doing wireless for ALL of those, you will likely run into problems doing all of that with cheaper wireless. The more cheap stuff you use, the more likely you will run into issues. Wireless speakers are nice but that’s the first one I would just wire up. Frequencies always depend on the environment around you, so there is t a “best frequency.” Although I definitely wouldn’t use more than 1-2 of the 2.4ghz systems.
@@ScottUhlMusic I’m not using any 2.4ghz and only a couple of 5.8ghz. Everything else is in mhz. I’m still trying to get my hands around the concepts so I’ll be watching your videos repeatedly until it sinks in. I’m curious about how to scan for best frequencies without having the functionality like the Shure or Sennheiser. Is there an app or handheld device that would work? Thanks again.
Hey Scott! I have a question regarding the UHF guitar system and microphone system. Do they have specific configuration for each application? Thanks for all your videos on this matter. I am learning a lot with you!
@@ScottUhlMusic like pre amp, impedance, etc… My point is, is each device designed for it’s own application? Or if I had a mic uhf system, I could use for my guitar?
Hey Scott. Thanks for these videos. If you see this and can add some insight I would appreciate it. So I get the thought process on bringing antennas to the front. I wonder why manufacturers don’t do that when lots of people out these in racks. Anyway I’m putting together a 6U rack around my axefx3. I reserved 1U of space for a guitar wireless and also an IEM. But I’m concerned about the antennas in the back. I won’t be able to open them. So….if possible I want to bring them to the front. I have seen pics of running one half unit with a space plate on the other side to run antennas. But I can’t do that Becusee I need the entire 1U space for both receivers. I do notice however that there are holes on the sides of the rail brackets. I assume they are for antennas. That will help solve some of this issue. But if so I can only run two antennas to the front. Some systems Have two antennas. I didn’t expect this issue and it’s frustrating. Any tips or input would be truly appreciated
Yeah, whatever you need to do to bring the antennas to the front is absolutely best. Having the wireless buried in a rack is not a good idea. There is a half rack thing that I use with my IEM system but I don’t know if it works with everything: th-cam.com/video/hqKuBwwNJTE/w-d-xo.html
Yes I'm thinking it's 2 receivers combined in one unit and I just didn't know it. I'm just asking if I can have them all in the same group and set to different channels and not have any problems even though they are different receivers in the same area. I'm thinking that's what u were saying in your video if I'm not mistaken.
You have a great channel, my friend!!! Really helpful information. Do you know the 4 channel system ACEMIC EM-D04 ?? can you make a review on it ? Thank you!!!
@@ScottUhlMusic it would be great if check it and let us know your thoughts. It's the cheapest and complete system here in Argentina and the only one with this characteristics. I hope you can take a look at it 💪🏼
Thank you for the great information. I have 4 Sure SLX mic units. Would you suggest getting one BLX-D or one Phenyx active antenna distributor to improve my system ? I’m very tight on budget and I need to use 4 wireless mics for an upcoming speaking event. Thank you in advance for your help.
4 is usually okay if you space them out on stage, but if these are for a speaking event, it’s definitely recommended to get an antenna distribution system for it if they will all be in a rack.
@@ScottUhlMusic do you think I’ll be ok with an analog SLX system with the Phenyx active antenna distributor and not need to upgrade to a digital system?
Since you were so helpful with my earlier question in regards to scanning frequencies, I thought I'd ask you another if that's okay. I ended up buying the Phenyx Pro 52-b, thinking it had the built-in scanner. But I guess that's the next model up? My question is, would it be worth returning an upgrading to the one that does have the scanner? I should point out that there are really no other wireless instruments in the band I'm playing with. It's only a concern of frequency interruptions from cell phones, Wi-Fi, etc. do you think I'll be safe just finding a frequency and going with it?
Here's a question. If you are using a wireless mic setup at a wedding, and scan for best frequency earlier in the day when there is no one in there while you're setting up gear... should you also do another scan when everyone floods in from the ceremony and cocktail hour and now there are 150 people where there were zero before?
Eh, not really. As long as it's within line of sight. If you are using a wireless on 2.4Ghz maybe... but for the most part it's usually fine in my experience. Good question!
Thanks so much for the quick reply! Based on one of your videos I just ended up ordering the Phenyx pro system with the lapel mic and headset included as well. Last week at a wedding I had a traumatic experience when I tried to use an X Vive, it worked great the week before and also on sound check. But when the reception folks started to file in, completely started cutting out. But as you said, probably because it was 2.4 . The other thing I was thinking might have had something to do with it was the fact that the week before I had run through an analog board, and then I ran through a digital board when I had the problems. I've heard that Bluetooth can also negatively affect Wi-Fi
Yeah I did the giveaway on my story. I tried doing a short and it just wasn’t getting views. I also tried to do it as a normal video and it didn’t work as well. I did the drawing on my TH-cam and Instagram story and left a comment on the winners comment. I’ll likely do my giveaways that way in the future too 👍
Just curious that would the distance from the ground of the receiver of a guitar wireless (or transmitter for IEM's) matter at all? Should it be high up to a point? I think I've heard something like this before..
Brother Scott, first thank you! Quick question. When using more than one system ( sometimes different brands) at larger venues, i scan for best frequency... My question... When scanning, should i have the other wireless units ON, so the scanning unit can see that a frequency is being used. Many thanks and I'm getting ready to purchase the ptu phenyx pro hoping the lapel is decent for weddings
I run audio video at my church, and I'm guilty of misunderstanding Shure wireless system bands, specifically when I bought extra wireless mics. I bought the Shure BLX tabletop style in J11, then the next in H10, third H9. They still work together without interference, but I should have stuck with the band their website indicates via search had the most available frequencies. Getting the PG58 mic version wasn't the best decision. Wireless SM58 minimum folks. I do know how to scan for open frequencies, and actually do it. I would have fixed the frequency for that other church sound guy, he could just have given me the money he was willing to throw away. My old lavaliere 3rd gen Audio Technica 3000 still works decent, and it scans like my BLX and new Sennheiser XSW-2 865 A handheld condenser mic. My worst wireless was about 4 years ago, a Samson VHF. Even 20 foot transmission was static filled, moving caused signal to drop, I needed 50 foot wireless to the mixer.
Thanks Scott, great information. In choosing between the Shure SLXD, QXLD, OR ULXD is there a difference between how well the intended sound is replicated with the same microphone. In other words, Will a B87A sound the same out of the box, no adjustments, with all three systems?
Great video...just found you. Hopefully you can give me a pointer or two with my Sennheiser. First, mine is in a rack and the antennae are in the back. What do I need to get to put them in the front? Second, I'm using an Axe FX3 in 4CM. If I use a guitar cable I don't have any issues...throw in the Sennheiser, and, especially when I try to use the setting I have for a faux single coil effect, I get wicked high pitched feedback...I'm assuming it's feedback, but it sounds like a high pitched squeal which does not go away no matter where I move to. Any thoughts...THANKS✌
You need a rack mount kit 👍 definitely do that! And if you have your sennheiser setup correctly where you just replace the cable with the sennheiser wireless, you should not get any problems. My guess is it’s a routing issue?
@@ScottUhlMusic Scott…thank you for your reply. I have mine in it’s included kit, but there was nothing to show how to put the antennae in the front. As for the routing I’m going out from the back of the rack into the guitar input of the Axe FX3, and then everything is set up per the Fractal instructions with regard 4CM. I’ve used a number of wireless systems, and this is my second Sennheiser after the one I had in England, and I’ve never had the experience I’m having with this one. I had to go back to using cable again for practise today. It’s really bugging me because I know these Sennheiser units are excellent, and I’m sure the issue can’t be with the unit, but I’ll be damned if I can figure it. I mean, from what I’ve just said, that’s how it’s supposed to be routed right? I’m using a standard lead, which I’ve done before, but should I be using a different type of lead…balanced to 1/4 inch for eg??? Any advice will be brilliant.
Hey Scott, Got my new Shure QLDX and man did that thing have issues. Bad and long drop outs from 10ft away. I scanned and scanned again and again and something wasn't right. Once I took it out of service I tried to scan again and it kept saying error. I'm not as deep as your are with tech details but I have been doing sound for bands for over 30 years so I kinda know my way around. Sweetwater as always is all over it but still doing intro of the wedding party and Bride and Groom I was not a happy camper. When the TX was off I could see the RX was picking up something and no matter what I din't I couldn't find an completely free channel. Maybe I got a bad one
Hey, thank you for your precious advices ! Question : I have a Sennheiser Iem ear monitor g4 ans i'll buy a Sennheiser Iem wireless for guitare. Can i put mix ear monitor and Wireless instrument système on a same rack case ? Or it's dangerous with interférences ?
If I have 5 total Iem transmitters with each one equipped with 1 half wave antenna, would getting a passive combiner for two systems bringing it down to just 3 antennas in total be efficient? I also use phenyx pro PTM-11s. Thanks for the info!
Having 5 of the PTM 11 you likely will run into issues and I would recommend upgrading to at least the PTM 10s (more bandwidth). The most common question I get after this video is “what if I use these…. With different combinations.” The thing with wireless… if you are playing somewhere and your frequencies are available… you won’t have problems. More frequencies = more reliability. It will work some places and then not others. Overall, 5 of the PTM 11 is setting yourself up for some of them not to work at some point. But I would switch to the PTM 10 and use this trick and then passively combine them: th-cam.com/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gj5HfjQUXZ4QBTVQ
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks! Well said. Since my band is completely sold on all 5 of us having seperate mixes, what would be an alternative to making this work aside from the method you just said? Most of the time we don’t have any issues, occasional dropouts but not at every show. We mostly just want to minimize the number of antennas to create a stronger signal while still having seperate mixes.
Hi! What are your thoughts on using IEM and Wireless Mic on the same range? Of course on different frequencies. I have this setup and wondering if my noise problems may be because of that.
Hey dude. I'm new to the channel - it's awesome BTW) and have been looking for some help on a wireless issue I am having. In my rack I have my wireless mic (Sennheiser XSW 2-835) and an IEM System (Sennheiser XSW-IEM) used in mono - both on different frequencies. The antennas are all at the front of my rack. I get no mic signal drops, but I do get multiple split second drops in every set my band does - we do up to 2 hour sets). I've tried changing the frequency (no scan functions), the cable, turning off the limiter of the receiver pack, reducing the gain of the input into the transmitter and the receiver.... nothing is helping. I've tried getting support on this from multiple sources but everyone seems to have different theories and advise - mainly around my wireless mic or that the frequency needs changing). My guitar wireless is a Line 6 G75 (2.4ghz) on my pedalboard (just for reference) and I'm usually less than 10ft away from my front-mounted antenna at any given time and there are dropouts. Again - they last a split second and then come back on but it happens at multiple times within a 2hour set. Before I go and spend money where I may not need to did you have any ideas?
Sounds like it’s an issue with the antennas right next to each other or you just need a different frequent range. Try upgrading to the G4 or the audio technica IEM system. That would be the best advice I have
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks dude. I still get the dropouts when I use my cabled mic and turn the wireless unit off - just using the IEMs. Think I'd best upgrade the IEM system
Hey Scott, from your recommendation I bought the Phenyx Pro PTU 7000 with the 4 mics in 1 rack space. I love the quality and auto scan feature, but drop outs happen a bit more often than I’d like. I want to get the Omni directional antenna for my audio system and attach it to a shure PA411, but they cost alot of money. I was also thinking about getting the phenyx pro distribution, but in your review of that, you said it’s not beneficial to have the paddles close to the mics, and my rack kit sits behind the whole band. Could I use the passive combiners with my PTU 7000?
Alex, Dropouts can happen for many reasons. It sounds like you are close to the mics, so it’s not a range thing. Make sure you have line of sight from antenna to the receiver. The directional antennas will possibly help, but with budget wireless, you get limited frequencies. The with 4 antennas you wouldn’t be able to combine/distribute passively. So you would need the active distribution. But remember you got a budget friendly wireless with limited frequency options. You do want to keep in mind that you got very cheap wireless. They work great when they do, but frequencies always depends on the venue: th-cam.com/video/kUNBHi5F3aQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B1z_EayQX6XPJxfT Hope that helps
@@ScottUhlMusic your an absolute legend and educator Scott, appreciate your quick response and advice. I’m sure I’ll be back with more questions in the future, but thank you 🙏
I am interested if the Shure QLX-D Digital Wireless System is worth the extra $400 compared to the Shure SLXD24 Digital Wireless System??? I am a lead singer (play some guitar)
You get more frequencies with the QLXD than you do with the SLXD. Slxd is great and it’s the one I use. But you will never complain about having more frequency options 👍
I have recently purchased two Shure SLX-D dual rackmount receivers. This will utilize four antenna's combined. Will this give me issues or must I have some kind of combiner?
Hey. Great info. I have the psm 300 in ear system and slxd wireless mic. Is putting both of these in the same rack with antennas facing out a “bad” idea? Since it’s only 2?
I have a rack mounted Line 6 G90, Sennheiser EW500 G3 wireless mic, and EW300 G3 IEM. Can i combine the antenna from my Line 6 (guitar) and EW500 (mic) since they are both receivers? For clarification, the line 6 already has front mount antenna and includes the option of antenna output behind the unit to allow for "daisy chaining" to other G90 units. I just want to make sure i can daisy chain through to the Sennheiser Mic receiver.
@@ScottUhlMusic unfortunately. This was my concern. I was trying to figure out if the RF signal was just "passed through" and could still be used in the 5 GHz band, but I think I'm probably oversimplifying the problem. Thanks!
6. Have readily available batteries or a wired fail safe if any of your wireless gear has an issue.
Absolutely!
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Yeah. This just happened at our gig yesterday to our keyboard player, who played inear for the first time 🤦
I use a rechargeable system but wouldn't even start without a back up. That's my outside system without electric available.
Concerning the new GLXD I played 2 3hour gigs and still tells me I have 12 hours left. But of course I have a replacement Batterie in spare. You never know…😉😀
dude i've watched one video of yours a month and a half ago about iems and since then i get suggestions of your vids EVERY DAY and it's never the same video. how much have you worked on this subject???? you are the one stop channel for this 👏
Haha thanks man. It’s a lot of work for sure… editing takes forever! But it’s worth it to see the growth of the channel and how much it’s helpful to people 🤘
I've been watching this channel for a couple weeks and finally subscribed. Such a large amount of information I can't believe you don't have more subscribers. Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
And scan after everyone and everything is setup and on. I push the scan right before soundcheck. Even better, buy one that then auto switches once setup and it fights interference for you. I use Shure for wireless guitar and Sennheiser for IEM.
Best channel I know regarding this sort of stuff. Clear, concise, extremely helpful. You've helped me get my set up going and I really appreciate that!
Thank you Ben!
I appreciate your helping the people!
Thanks!
dude, your channel is a gem! So much informative and very useful stuff! Learned a crap tone of stuff. Thank you very much sir! \m/
Thanks Arthur!
WOW! This has to be one of the most informative videos on wireless mics I've seen. What a goldmine! Easy to understand and straight to the point. Thank you sir. Peace out !
Glad to help!
Awesome video, went from zero to hero for our band. Much love, appreciate the info!!
Glad I could help!
Hi! Just a Scan works when you have few channels and you might get lucky. It can also work when you have loads of channels, but again, if you get lucky. The most important step after scan is to do frequency coordination, and that might be why the sound guy didn’t want to go with a simple scan. You can find free channels with a scan, but it won’t check for intermodulation and other problems it might occur when you start using that free frequency.
The right way is to scan with an RF analyzer and leave the scan running for the longest time you can. Usually you can setup RF analyzer and laptop to scan continuously even when you do your backline setup if you have that chance, and then import the scan file into a software like shure workbench. Import all frequencies into the calculations and the software will calculate the frewuencies for your RF devices.
I can try to help further if you have questions as I do frequency coordination on a daily basis.
Best!
Yeah for sure if you have an RF analyzer that’s always best for sure. Most bands don’t, and a scan is definitely the most helpful without it. I think the sound guy just didn’t want to change channels because he wanted to keep them where they were. But you are correct, frequency manager with a laptop is best if you can! But most people don’t have that, so scanning is great in that case 👍 Thanks!
@@ScottUhlMusic but is good practice to use the software even if you have no way how to import a scan into calculations. If you scan a free channel/frequency, even though it’s free at the time of the scan, it doesn’t mean it will be a good frequency when every wireless devices are active.
So if you have all frequencies in the software, and you run a scan on your microphone and a new frequency, you can insert that frequency into the software and check for intermods with the frequencies you are using. This would be my advice for those who want to make it more advance, but have no access to a RF explorer for example…
@Scott I would be surprised if a band had an RF analyzer but with Shure SLX-D and above receivers you dont need a one. If you connect a laptop to the receivers over ethernet you can use one or all of the receivers to perform a scan in Wireless Workbench (WWB) and then calculate the best frequencies to use for all your other devices. You can even use WWB to coordinate non Shure devices.
Great overview. We are beginning with IEMs in rehearsal. First gig is a few weeks away with them.
Late to this useful video! My personal revelation after several gigs with my IEM was… the reason I was getting interference during setup & sound check but it tended to go away during the actual show was that before the first set I would take off the big bunch of keys hanging on my belt, right next to the IEM receiver. No keys, no interference!
Re-scanning at every gig can be problematic too.. You can simply go round and round in circles if you have quite a few systems.
Setting maximum spacing (with a little further adjustment) before the gig is a good start, then shift an occupied channel if necessary.
There may just be broadband noise at a gig. Trying to find clear channels at a gig can be a nightmare!
Software is always best if you can do it of course. But if not, scanning starting from the “most important” one first is a good way to go
I am sponging all this stuff up. Great info!!
misate #4 14:50 .... we are rocking our 22 sennheisers without any external antena :D all burried in closed racks even on big stages :D we will get antena spliters eventualy but doing great since 2013 :D
For IEMs one thing I cannot recommend enough is a good external antenna. Those little 1/4 wave whips that ship with the transmitters are... not good.
I'm currently running an Audio Technica ATW-3255 and a Phenyx Pro PTM-10 in my band's setup. With the included 1/4 wave antennas mounted on the front of the rack things were just never quite right. There were always spots, at home, on stage or even in my band's tiny little practice room, where it would sound kind of fizzy or even momentarily drop out entirely. It was never unusable to the point where I would prefer the alternative of a blown out monitor wedge, but always enough to be annoying. Not just on the Phenyx either. The much pricier A-T unit performed better, but still short of perfect.
I added an RF Venue passive combiner ($99) and a Sennheiser U-1031 passive omnidirectional antenna ($180), mounted on a mic stand about chest high and everything is so much better. Dropouts are non existent. No more of those fizzy half dropouts (may have been multipath from the rackmount antennas being so close the floor?), and most surprisingly, setting aside the dropout/reliability issue entirely, the sound quality just seems all around better. I was planning on dropping another $1300 to replace that Phenyx Pro with another A-T unit and 2 receivers ASAP, but I'm honestly now considering just sticking with the Phenyx since it seems to be working so well with the combiner and external antenna setup.
Nice! I hadn’t seen the Sennheiser Omni antenna like that. I’m going to have to look into that more. Thanks for the suggestion!
@@ScottUhlMusic Yeah, it's wild how well that antenna has worked for me. Might be the best $180 I've ever spent on gear. Just plugged it in and all my RF reception issues instantly went away.
Although full disclaimer the mic stand may actually be the real silver bullet here. It's possible that simply remotely mounting the stock antennas up away from the rack and the floor could have solved my problem too. But placing any reasonable dollar value on my time, I'm coming out ahead buying the RF venue combiner and Sennheiser antenna instead of figuring out some way to jury rig the 1/4 waves up in the air somewhere.
I bought a Phenyx PTG-11 wireless guitar system. True diversity 100 channel receiver and it was around 150 dollars and I must admit it is a great sounding system. Plus the case it came in is as nice as it gets. I thought I would be taking a chance since it was very affordable and the cheaper 60 80 dollar units did not have as many channels available and their receivers were a bug just like the transmitters so when I came across the Phenyx it was a no brainer for just a little more cost wise. The only drawback is it only works with passive pickups but, I only use passive so it was not an issue for me. I am very impressed with the fact that my tone is there when I go from a chord to the transmitter. This unit is excellent and the price is a dream.
Yeah I reviewed that one a while back. It’s definitely a great system!
Very informative for me putting together an IEM-Rack for my band. Thanx 1000 times! :-)
Glad to help!
Great analysis, thanks buddy, keep up the good job, Good luck !
Great video. I had a disaster with my microphones at an event recently and I believe I could have been simply resolved by re-scanning my groups and channels. Thank you!
Once again simple but incredible useful/valuable information for someone who uses IEM’s. Thanks so much for taking the time to post this. This info will help me out!
Glad to help!
Great well explained video again Scott. for me, I had to watch a couple of times to digest all the info
Glad it helped 🤘🤘
Oh dear, thank you for this! I came across this video a bit too late for our first upcoming gig with IEM, but at least now I have a decent idea why 2 out of 5 of us have intermittent drop outs with our cheap gear. 🥴
Glad it was helpful! And yeah, it’s THE most common problem I see. Sometimes cheaper does work, but often times, you will reach the threshold.
So glad I found your channel! I’m getting back to gigging after a long break and an instrument change. You’ve been very helpful!
Thank you 🙏 Good luck with the gigs!
Awesome! I can't tell you how happy I am to find your channel! I've been running sound out of necessity for awhile and have only picked up knowledge here and there. This video goes a long way for me. Thank you!
Thanks! 😁
it's Totally Kyle!!!! Great video man, very informative!
Oh man. I needed this! Im using way too much wireless! 7 wireless IEMs from Phenyx and a 6 Shure 900mhz digital ..... way too much stuff. 900Mhz has become really busy! My Guess is that getting all my IEMS onto a single channel should clear up some dropouts!
Yeah man, definitely cannot do that much cheap stuff! Even the good entry level ones like the Phenyx Pro and the Shure ones 👍
This is some great great info! Challenge #1, a show with a box of old Nady 1s, the opening band’s borrowed guitars, and 1/5th of old no.7! Jk!
A phone with a noolec sdr dongle would likely be great kit to carry! You can navigate the waterfall of signals affordably. Plus, listen to the cops breaking up the chaos as you slip out the back!
Your videos are Always full of great info
Thank you
Thanks!
I'm a professional sound engineer and a hobby musician. I can confirm everything you said and it's not really common for a musician to have all that knowledge you gathered. I even actually have to argue with sound colleges about some of these points from time to time 😮
Thanks! I appreciate you sharing that 🤘
thank you so much for ALL your video's! I didn't even know you neede to scan! Also how the signals work in relation to each others. Crystal clear explaned and still learning of each video, thank you so much man!
Thank you! Glad to help!
Such an informative, clear and succinct video! Great diction and editing too. I learn so much from you thanks
Thank you! 😊
Hey will 6 of the Anleon s3 units work together? I’ve been using 2 without any issues but I would like to get more for the rest of the band?????
I wouldn’t recommend it. But it’s possible. You never know, these are guidelines, not flat out rules. It always depends on the environment. Those are budget friendly wireless. Using 2 is what it’s meant for. I personally would go for higher end wireless if you need 6
A big pro for dual or quad receivers/transmitters is also combined power and network.
Definitely! Thats a big reason I bought the Shure slxd. One for my mic and one for my guitar
Your thoughts to qlxd4 wireless mic? Do you recommend it?
Yeah definitely! It’s a great system! I reviewed it here: th-cam.com/video/TosqbbS18Oo/w-d-xo.html
Bravo!! This is an excellent
video and of course, I hit the like and subscribe button. Thank you!
Many thanks!
Man, I was about to make all those mistakes. I am going to start live loop performing and some acoustic gigs, I am so glad I ran into this video. Subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing 🤘🤘
Senn XSW-D auto-scans, good tip but never had a problem. Shure PGXDs have also been rock solid for karaoke gigs. The RF pattern on those omni antennas is shaped like a donut with the antenna right through the hole, that’s an easy way to remember it. Buying midrange wireless gear used is maybe a little more than low-end new, but it’ll hold value better and be a better product. Senn EW-D and Shure PGXD / GLXD stuff is getting more affordable these days, and again I’ve had really good luck with the XSW-D line.
Scott, great explanation. I agree will all of your assessments as I have been doing wireless for the last 15 + years and can sing the Wireless Blues! One touchy subject is the use of the 2.4GHz band for wireless. I started using SLX for a bit then Line 6 wireless came out and we replaced all with Line 6. They were good sounding mics and you could change the model, etc. However after several years, maybe up to 2015, we started to have dropouts of the V75 HH mics and eventually the Guitar Relay series as well.
We now have switched all over to QLX-D where we have plenty of channels and our IEMs are PSM 900. Very expensive at this point, but we don't have dropouts!
I recently bought those X-Live ones that operate on 2.4GHz and they are complete dropout junk. IMHO, I would not recommend anyone buy any wireless that operates on 2.4GHz. 2.4GHz is way too crowded as most wireless routers are transmitting on 2.4GHz as well as all the blue tooth devices. STAY AWAY from 2.4GHz DEVICES!!!
Great info....waiting for the sennheiser ewd system to arrive in a week or so. Exited to try it
Nice! Sennheiser makes great stuff
This was a really great and well done video! very thorough and you took the time to repeat things, especially important things that help drive the point home. I just finished the ultimate compact all-in-one rack with 6x Shure SLXD mics, 4x PSM300 IEMs, both with Shure Distribution and Antenna Combiners all plugged nicely into a Presonus Studiolive 32R. This weekend I'm adding an Art S8 XLR splitter so we can do the Vocal mics split out to a separate sound system for FOH and still keep our rig and channels intact and getting a custom stage snake with dual XLR male end cable snakes to split our instruments as well with FOH.
so much great info, thank you
I really appreciate your channel. You provide the best, most reliable information. Thanks.
Thank you!
Where did you get that cool single-wide rack case shown at 13:46??
That’s just a stock photo I found 👍
another informative video...
Thanks Steve!
Thank you for a great review, looks like an awesome product!😀👍
Awsome info. Thanks so much
I can not tell you how badly I needed you to make this video.
Glad it helped!
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Suscribed 🎉 thanks for the tips, and heads up of your videos 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks! I appreciate that 🤘
Hey Scott I have the phenyx PTM 22 iems and Shure BLX4 wireless mics. I have tried to have the receivers in the same rack space but I get interference whenever I do this. Have you experienced this before? Hoping for a solution! Thanks
The blx without the rack antennas definitely doesn’t play nice with in ear monitors. Thats very true. I tried to have mine in a rack with my iems and had problems with the blx before. I suggest upgrading and watching my comprehensive guide: th-cam.com/video/Xi2JcMomjQ0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=_90-dJNDl8gjyXE7
I'm still learning on how to setup networking with a spectrum analyzer for RF coordination moving forward I only plan on buying wireless gear with built in Ethernet connection for network
That’s a great way to make sure wireless works well! That’s definitely one of the best ways
Replay!!! I’m sure this could be a series on it’s own as time goes by with more rules.
Very informative and easy to understand. With the background at first I thought you were going for the Count Dracula look because the big black collars. Anyway thanks again. Do you have a TH-cam clip of your band playing live you would recommend watching?
Lol you are the 2nd person to point that out and now I cannot unsee it 😂
For my original Music (Spiral Cell) here’s a concert I did during quarantine: th-cam.com/video/dFF6dgxD_5E/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the very informative video!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, I have a Phenyx Pro PTU-2U. I used it at an event recently, I am a DJ. I wanted to make my set up look clean so I put the receiver under my DJ table which is covered by a cloth. I did scan for new channels once most people were in the venue but I noticed One of my mics still had drop outs while the other one was perfectly fine. I found when it dropped out it didn't work again until I turned off and turned back on or scan again. I guess having the receiver under the table is a no no??. It wasn't on the floor. I even changed batteries before the event
Sometimes you can just have a lot of interference in the area you are performing at. But keeping line of sight is always best practice!
awesome! thanks!!!
Old skool guitarist here. Subbed to this channel because I have much to learn about this wireless stuff and new tech. I play mostly on ourdoor stages, usually concrete all around. Nobody else in the band has a wireless system, but I assume the sound techs do because a lot of them are mixing on an iPad. How much do cell phones affect a wireless signal? I'm hoping I can get away with a less expensive system since there will hopefully be less interference than if there were more wireless systems being used close to me?
Phone mostly effects 2.4ghz because it shares Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and stuff like that. Most UHF stuff isn’t effected by phones 👍 Thanks for the sub!
Hey Scott, great video! I'm wondering where IN the rack the receiver should be installed. Should it be far from my power conditioner? I've got my Power up top, tuner, sansamp and then the wireless receiver. Am I overthinking this maybe?
It doesn’t matter, whichever way it fits best 👍
@ScottUhlMusic thanks so much for the reply, man. I was way too preoccupied with that. You're a life-saver!
I’m in charge of sound for my band we run about 16 wireless systems with in ears and I don’t scan any receiver except 1. All I need is to scan with 1 axient receiver and wireless workbench deploys channels to the others. If I were to scan every receiver that would take longer
The Axient is quite amazing!
Thanks for the Information! Yes it’s awesome.
The antenna combiner is an interesting concept. However, coming from the ham radio world, it has always been common knowledge that antennas that are only receiving a signal can be very close to each other. Think about those who are short wave listeners and have 5 or 6 receiving antennas in close proximity on their roofs. There is no interference with another receiving antenna when an antenna is only receiving signal. A parking lot of cars at Wal-Mart will all receive the local radio station without interference from the other cars. So if you have 4 Shure wireless units in your rack, all receiving a signal from a certain microphone frequency some distance away, there are no transmitting antennas in close proximity to interfere with that signal, correct? For IEM's, I can see the propagation argument better, as antennas in close proximity to each other are transmitting to the body packs. I also do not understand the concept of tilting the antennas 90 degrees apart for UHF/VHF which both utilize vertical propagation. If anyone has any science behind these concepts, please let me know.
Do you have a tutorial on how to position paddle antennas? I have a paddle antenna for wireless mics and a paddle antenna for wireless IEM. I have a lot of problems with dropouts.
Not particularly on placement, but these videos should help:
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th-cam.com/video/m6Q3L4a63bQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=hqE0htAn-Y2_SQ3x
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Interesting that you are having problems even with a combiner
Thanks for the video Scott. I am currently racking my Sennheiser EW 500 guitar system receiver along with my Shure PSM 300 IEM transmitter. This is probably not best practice but I have not found any info anywhere that says don't do it. It is convenient and easy to transport this way. I'm also using a Shure GLXD16 ( 2.4 ver) for my acoustic guitar that sits on my board. Any thoughts, advice?
We have 1 high end Shure Wireless Mic, 3 Shure IEM systems, another 2.4 guitar system, and we use a 2.5/5ghz wiifi router to give the band access for their own monitor mix. We run a splitter for the FOH guys. The Sennheiser has quite a broad range and so far I haven't had significant interference, but I do experience occasional drops in my IEM. I am scanning the IEM and Sennheiser each new venue and I have the GXLD which auto scans set to group 4 channel 1 supposedly best for reducing interference.
Also what is that small single unit travel case you show in the video?
If you just have two in a rack that’s usually fine… it’s when you have a bunch in a rack that there’s a problem. More than 3/4 is when I recommend spacing them out or getting a combiner
Scott, you're the man! been running an awesome IEM rig with my band for a year now (thanks to your help). Im trying to eliminate the dreaded heap of twisted cables just like you were. We already run wireless in ears and wireless guitars BUT.. I need more, im in too deep in the vast freedom of wireless. Is it technically possible to connect our 3 kempers to our X32 mixer with some wireless transmitters and receivers?
Thanks! Glad to help! And you can do that yes, but you could also just put your kempers in a rack near the x32 and trigger them via midi if you are interested in that.
But yes, any wireless can be wireless for kemper into mixer. I’ve done that many times with my helix and hx stomp
Very informative, shared this with several people, thanks!
Quick question, what are your thoughts on Carvin IEM systems (EM900’s)?
Been using them for several years now and really like’em for the price, but have seen few reviews and am curious of your thoughts on them.
Thanks! And I have not used those before, so I don’t know. But if you like them, that’s what’s important!
No problem having lots of receiver antennas together, or lots of transmitters, just don't mix them or have them so close that they become detuned or loaded by the adjacent antenna.
Combiners have losses and their own intermodulation limits. Adding that loss may be useful though.
You definitely want to avoid “antenna farms”
First thing to do is set the gain on the mic.
They will actually overload with a loud singer, if a setting is used for conferences etc. causing compression and feedback problems.
That’s good advice, although it’s more an audio tips, not a wireless tip. But I agree
Love your stuff man have learned a lot from your channel.
What do you think of the Sennheiser ew 300 IEM g2 transmitter and receiver. I know someone selling a few units used. They are pretty old and I am just getting into wireless gear so I’m a little nervous about purchasing these and them not working.
Appreciate you brother!!!
Thanks! And the G3 and G4 are very common and really reliable. I’m not as familiar with the G2 model, but I’m willing to bet they are great. Just make sure you check the frequency band for which ones are allowed in your area/country. A lot of people sell ones for super cheap when they are no longer “legal” to use.
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks for replying so quick man!!!
I believe these will still work in my area. It’s saying in the manual that the frequency’s are from 518 - 866.
I’m in Canada and the Canadian website is saying 500 is good for anyone to use.
The price seems a bit to good to be true for 1000 bucks for 4 units and a rack case. I’m going to check them out today and get to scoop!! Thanks for your help brother!!!!
All the best.
Well done and very informative. High end systems (meaning expensive) for me is out of the question so prudent selection from the cheap ones is my goal. In a small band (guitar, bass, and electronic drums) would it be advisable to use a particular frequency group for speaker connections, instruments,vocals and in ears so they don’t collide with each other? Without the frequency scan capability of the high end units; is there another way to scan to see what’s available?
Thanks dude and you are truly an inspiration! Think I’ll watch the other wireless tutorial you suggested yet again. They’re all so good!
Thanks, glad you like the videos. If you are doing wireless for ALL of those, you will likely run into problems doing all of that with cheaper wireless. The more cheap stuff you use, the more likely you will run into issues. Wireless speakers are nice but that’s the first one I would just wire up. Frequencies always depend on the environment around you, so there is t a “best frequency.” Although I definitely wouldn’t use more than 1-2 of the 2.4ghz systems.
@@ScottUhlMusic I’m not using any 2.4ghz and only a couple of 5.8ghz. Everything else is in mhz. I’m still trying to get my hands around the concepts so I’ll be watching your videos repeatedly until it sinks in. I’m curious about how to scan for best frequencies without having the functionality like the Shure or Sennheiser. Is there an app or handheld device that would work?
Thanks again.
I have a question if i get the active combiner do i still have to scan for channel?
Yes 👍
Is it possible to connect a router with a combiner. I know they usually have to be 10ft away. It would be great to keep in the rack
Yeah, that’s not a problem. Just if the wireless is on 2.4 or 5.8, they should be kept away from a router
me too have done these brooo
Scott - Is it important to TURN OFF the transmitter when you scan the receiver?
Yes 👍
Hey Scott! I have a question regarding the UHF guitar system and microphone system. Do they have specific configuration for each application?
Thanks for all your videos on this matter. I am learning a lot with you!
Thanks! And what do you mean by specific configuration?
@@ScottUhlMusic like pre amp, impedance, etc… My point is, is each device designed for it’s own application? Or if I had a mic uhf system, I could use for my guitar?
Hey Scott. Thanks for these videos. If you see this and can add some insight I would appreciate it. So I get the thought process on bringing antennas to the front. I wonder why manufacturers don’t do that when lots of people out these in racks. Anyway I’m putting together a 6U rack around my axefx3. I reserved 1U of space for a guitar wireless and also an IEM. But I’m concerned about the antennas in the back. I won’t be able to open them. So….if possible I want to bring them to the front. I have seen pics of running one half unit with a space plate on the other side to run antennas. But I can’t do that Becusee I need the entire 1U space for both receivers. I do notice however that there are holes on the sides of the rail brackets. I assume they are for antennas. That will help solve some of this issue. But if so I can only run two antennas to the front. Some systems
Have two antennas. I didn’t expect this issue and it’s frustrating. Any tips or input would be truly appreciated
Yeah, whatever you need to do to bring the antennas to the front is absolutely best. Having the wireless buried in a rack is not a good idea.
There is a half rack thing that I use with my IEM system but I don’t know if it works with everything: th-cam.com/video/hqKuBwwNJTE/w-d-xo.html
Yes I'm thinking it's 2 receivers combined in one unit and I just didn't know it. I'm just asking if I can have them all in the same group and set to different channels and not have any problems even though they are different receivers in the same area. I'm thinking that's what u were saying in your video if I'm not mistaken.
If they are all in the same frequency Band (A, A1, G50, H55 etc). This video should help: th-cam.com/video/3zuHC2m0l3s/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JttnAWMH33dhDXEH
You have a great channel, my friend!!! Really helpful information. Do you know the 4 channel system ACEMIC EM-D04 ?? can you make a review on it ? Thank you!!!
Hmmm all 4 in one! That’s really interesting. I’ll have to look into that, thanks!
@@ScottUhlMusic it would be great if check it and let us know your thoughts. It's the cheapest and complete system here in Argentina and the only one with this characteristics. I hope you can take a look at it 💪🏼
Thank you for the great information. I have 4 Sure SLX mic units. Would you suggest getting one BLX-D or one Phenyx active antenna distributor to improve my system ? I’m very tight on budget and I need to use 4 wireless mics for an upcoming speaking event.
Thank you in advance for your help.
4 is usually okay if you space them out on stage, but if these are for a speaking event, it’s definitely recommended to get an antenna distribution system for it if they will all be in a rack.
@@ScottUhlMusic do you think I’ll be ok with an analog SLX system with the Phenyx active antenna distributor and not need to upgrade to a digital system?
Since you were so helpful with my earlier question in regards to scanning frequencies, I thought I'd ask you another if that's okay.
I ended up buying the Phenyx Pro 52-b, thinking it had the built-in scanner. But I guess that's the next model up? My question is, would it be worth returning an upgrading to the one that does have the scanner? I should point out that there are really no other wireless instruments in the band I'm playing with. It's only a concern of frequency interruptions from cell phones, Wi-Fi, etc. do you think I'll be safe just finding a frequency and going with it?
If it’s the only wireless, it’s usually fine. Just try it, and if a channel is giving you problems, switch to another one at soundcheck 👍
Here's a question. If you are using a wireless mic setup at a wedding, and scan for best frequency earlier in the day when there is no one in there while you're setting up gear... should you also do another scan when everyone floods in from the ceremony and cocktail hour and now there are 150 people where there were zero before?
Eh, not really. As long as it's within line of sight. If you are using a wireless on 2.4Ghz maybe... but for the most part it's usually fine in my experience. Good question!
Thanks so much for the quick reply! Based on one of your videos I just ended up ordering the Phenyx pro system with the lapel mic and headset included as well. Last week at a wedding I had a traumatic experience when I tried to use an X Vive, it worked great the week before and also on sound check. But when the reception folks started to file in, completely started cutting out. But as you said, probably because it was 2.4 .
The other thing I was thinking might have had something to do with it was the fact that the week before I had run through an analog board, and then I ran through a digital board when I had the problems. I've heard that Bluetooth can also negatively affect Wi-Fi
Xcuze me but don't quite get it, what abour golden wireless plugs giveaway? Did I miss something?
Yeah I did the giveaway on my story. I tried doing a short and it just wasn’t getting views. I also tried to do it as a normal video and it didn’t work as well. I did the drawing on my TH-cam and Instagram story and left a comment on the winners comment. I’ll likely do my giveaways that way in the future too 👍
Just curious that would the distance from the ground of the receiver of a guitar wireless (or transmitter for IEM's) matter at all? Should it be high up to a point? I think I've heard something like this before..
Eh, not really. It can help, but kind of sight is always the most important
Brother Scott, first thank you! Quick question. When using more than one system ( sometimes different brands) at larger venues, i scan for best frequency... My question... When scanning, should i have the other wireless units ON, so the scanning unit can see that a frequency is being used.
Many thanks and I'm getting ready to purchase the ptu phenyx pro hoping the lapel is decent for weddings
You should scan with the wireless off, but then once one of them is set, do the next scan with those other wireless on 👍
Gotcha, thanks my brother, makes sense
I run audio video at my church, and I'm guilty of misunderstanding Shure wireless system bands, specifically when I bought extra wireless mics. I bought the Shure BLX tabletop style in J11, then the next in H10, third H9. They still work together without interference, but I should have stuck with the band their website indicates via search had the most available frequencies.
Getting the PG58 mic version wasn't the best decision. Wireless SM58 minimum folks.
I do know how to scan for open frequencies, and actually do it. I would have fixed the frequency for that other church sound guy, he could just have given me the money he was willing to throw away.
My old lavaliere 3rd gen Audio Technica 3000 still works decent, and it scans like my BLX and new Sennheiser XSW-2 865 A handheld condenser mic.
My worst wireless was about 4 years ago, a Samson VHF. Even 20 foot transmission was static filled, moving caused signal to drop, I needed 50 foot wireless to the mixer.
Yeah man, we all learn from our mistakes! I wouldn’t be able to make this channel if I hadn’t made those mistakes myself!
Thanks Scott, great information. In choosing between the Shure SLXD, QXLD, OR ULXD is there a difference between how well the intended sound is replicated with the same microphone. In other words, Will a B87A sound the same out of the box, no adjustments, with all three systems?
All 3 systems will sound the same 👍 it’s the specs that are different. Good question!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks, as usual you have the answer. Much appreciated.
Great video...just found you. Hopefully you can give me a pointer or two with my Sennheiser. First, mine is in a rack and the antennae are in the back. What do I need to get to put them in the front? Second, I'm using an Axe FX3 in 4CM. If I use a guitar cable I don't have any issues...throw in the Sennheiser, and, especially when I try to use the setting I have for a faux single coil effect, I get wicked high pitched feedback...I'm assuming it's feedback, but it sounds like a high pitched squeal which does not go away no matter where I move to. Any thoughts...THANKS✌
You need a rack mount kit 👍 definitely do that!
And if you have your sennheiser setup correctly where you just replace the cable with the sennheiser wireless, you should not get any problems. My guess is it’s a routing issue?
@@ScottUhlMusic Scott…thank you for your reply. I have mine in it’s included kit, but there was nothing to show how to put the antennae in the front. As for the routing I’m going out from the back of the rack into the guitar input of the Axe FX3, and then everything is set up per the Fractal instructions with regard 4CM. I’ve used a number of wireless systems, and this is my second Sennheiser after the one I had in England, and I’ve never had the experience I’m having with this one. I had to go back to using cable again for practise today. It’s really bugging me because I know these Sennheiser units are excellent, and I’m sure the issue can’t be with the unit, but I’ll be damned if I can figure it. I mean, from what I’ve just said, that’s how it’s supposed to be routed right? I’m using a standard lead, which I’ve done before, but should I be using a different type of lead…balanced to 1/4 inch for eg??? Any advice will be brilliant.
Hey Scott, Got my new Shure QLDX and man did that thing have issues. Bad and long drop outs from 10ft away. I scanned and scanned again and again and something wasn't right. Once I took it out of service I tried to scan again and it kept saying error. I'm not as deep as your are with tech details but I have been doing sound for bands for over 30 years so I kinda know my way around. Sweetwater as always is all over it but still doing intro of the wedding party and Bride and Groom I was not a happy camper. When the TX was off I could see the RX was picking up something and no matter what I din't I couldn't find an completely free channel. Maybe I got a bad one
You definitely got a bad one, the QLXD is an extremely reliable system.
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks Scott as that's what I was thinking too. Sweetwater has already express shipped a new one,
Hey, thank you for your precious advices !
Question : I have a Sennheiser Iem ear monitor g4 ans i'll buy a Sennheiser Iem wireless for guitare.
Can i put mix ear monitor and Wireless instrument système on a same rack case ?
Or it's dangerous with interférences ?
Two wireless in a rack usually isn’t a problem 👍
If I have 5 total Iem transmitters with each one equipped with 1 half wave antenna, would getting a passive combiner for two systems bringing it down to just 3 antennas in total be efficient? I also use phenyx pro PTM-11s. Thanks for the info!
Having 5 of the PTM 11 you likely will run into issues and I would recommend upgrading to at least the PTM 10s (more bandwidth). The most common question I get after this video is “what if I use these…. With different combinations.”
The thing with wireless… if you are playing somewhere and your frequencies are available… you won’t have problems. More frequencies = more reliability. It will work some places and then not others. Overall, 5 of the PTM 11 is setting yourself up for some of them not to work at some point. But I would switch to the PTM 10 and use this trick and then passively combine them: th-cam.com/video/A7Drmjn6vsQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gj5HfjQUXZ4QBTVQ
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks! Well said. Since my band is completely sold on all 5 of us having seperate mixes, what would be an alternative to making this work aside from the method you just said? Most of the time we don’t have any issues, occasional dropouts but not at every show. We mostly just want to minimize the number of antennas to create a stronger signal while still having seperate mixes.
Hi! What are your thoughts on using IEM and Wireless Mic on the same range? Of course on different frequencies. I have this setup and wondering if my noise problems may be because of that.
That won’t be a problem. Your noise is likely coming from somewhere else
Hey dude. I'm new to the channel - it's awesome BTW) and have been looking for some help on a wireless issue I am having. In my rack I have my wireless mic (Sennheiser XSW 2-835) and an IEM System (Sennheiser XSW-IEM) used in mono - both on different frequencies. The antennas are all at the front of my rack. I get no mic signal drops, but I do get multiple split second drops in every set my band does - we do up to 2 hour sets). I've tried changing the frequency (no scan functions), the cable, turning off the limiter of the receiver pack, reducing the gain of the input into the transmitter and the receiver.... nothing is helping. I've tried getting support on this from multiple sources but everyone seems to have different theories and advise - mainly around my wireless mic or that the frequency needs changing). My guitar wireless is a Line 6 G75 (2.4ghz) on my pedalboard (just for reference) and I'm usually less than 10ft away from my front-mounted antenna at any given time and there are dropouts. Again - they last a split second and then come back on but it happens at multiple times within a 2hour set. Before I go and spend money where I may not need to did you have any ideas?
Sounds like it’s an issue with the antennas right next to each other or you just need a different frequent range. Try upgrading to the G4 or the audio technica IEM system. That would be the best advice I have
@@ScottUhlMusic Thanks dude. I still get the dropouts when I use my cabled mic and turn the wireless unit off - just using the IEMs. Think I'd best upgrade the IEM system
Hey Scott, from your recommendation I bought the Phenyx Pro PTU 7000 with the 4 mics in 1 rack space. I love the quality and auto scan feature, but drop outs happen a bit more often than I’d like. I want to get the Omni directional antenna for my audio system and attach it to a shure PA411, but they cost alot of money.
I was also thinking about getting the phenyx pro distribution, but in your review of that, you said it’s not beneficial to have the paddles close to the mics, and my rack kit sits behind the whole band. Could I use the passive combiners with my PTU 7000?
Alex,
Dropouts can happen for many reasons. It sounds like you are close to the mics, so it’s not a range thing. Make sure you have line of sight from antenna to the receiver. The directional antennas will possibly help, but with budget wireless, you get limited frequencies. The with 4 antennas you wouldn’t be able to combine/distribute passively. So you would need the active distribution. But remember you got a budget friendly wireless with limited frequency options.
You do want to keep in mind that you got very cheap wireless. They work great when they do, but frequencies always depends on the venue: th-cam.com/video/kUNBHi5F3aQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B1z_EayQX6XPJxfT
Hope that helps
@@ScottUhlMusic your an absolute legend and educator Scott, appreciate your quick response and advice. I’m sure I’ll be back with more questions in the future, but thank you 🙏
I am interested if the Shure QLX-D Digital Wireless System is worth the extra $400 compared to the Shure SLXD24 Digital Wireless System??? I am a lead singer (play some guitar)
You get more frequencies with the QLXD than you do with the SLXD. Slxd is great and it’s the one I use. But you will never complain about having more frequency options 👍
I have recently purchased two Shure SLX-D dual rackmount receivers. This will utilize four antenna's combined. Will this give me issues or must I have some kind of combiner?
Not likely, that shouldn’t cause too many problems. A combiner is always better practice but not required.
I’m assuming groups and banks are the same thing?
Usually yeah 👍
I still have my
Shure T4G from 1999
208.200 MHz
20+ years and never had any issues
Thoughts?
Oh nice! I don’t know enough about that frequency tbh
Hey. Great info. I have the psm 300 in ear system and slxd wireless mic. Is putting both of these in the same rack with antennas facing out a “bad” idea? Since it’s only 2?
No, 2 should be fine. Up to 4 is usually okay in my experience. Don’t face the antennas “out” like I mention in the video though!
I have a rack mounted Line 6 G90, Sennheiser EW500 G3 wireless mic, and EW300 G3 IEM. Can i combine the antenna from my Line 6 (guitar) and EW500 (mic) since they are both receivers?
For clarification, the line 6 already has front mount antenna and includes the option of antenna output behind the unit to allow for "daisy chaining" to other G90 units. I just want to make sure i can daisy chain through to the Sennheiser Mic receiver.
The G90 is in 2.4ghz right? So they are in different frequency bands, so that likely wouldn’t worked
@@ScottUhlMusic unfortunately. This was my concern. I was trying to figure out if the RF signal was just "passed through" and could still be used in the 5 GHz band, but I think I'm probably oversimplifying the problem. Thanks!
so useful !!
Thanks! 😊
Thanks for this review. Very curious about these products! Hope to win!