I honestly think this is the best screen setup you can get on a vehicle. It fits nicely in the dash, still has all the buttons you need, and it’s not overly large.
Ben FYI. I was looking at used Ford F150's in my area. The XLT truck held their values the best of all. A two year old F150 King ranch with 35K miles at my local ford dealership was down nearly 30K from its original MSRP. XLT is best bang for the buck.
Ben hear me out, unrelated to this video. If you get the chance, please do a 2500 ZR2 vs a 2500 AT4 review. I know you did the comparison with the AT4X. However from a pricing standpoint 2500 ZR2 and 2500 AT4 is pretty much the same. I’m thinking to go gas V8, don’t need the Duramax capability as I’m not towing anything. I’m wondering which is the better driving truck, which has the better interior, which is a more comfortable ride. I do care about MPG, my guess is that AT4 would do slightly better due to the tire setup. Thank you from VA, love your videos! Keep up the great work! No one does it at the level you’re doing it at out here on YT! 👊
There are many thousands of new 2024 F150s sitting on Ford dealer lots that they need to move. So if you are a smart consumer, why would you want a 2025 other than color choice?
Ben, I just looked at that truck from the link you put in the description. its equipped with the 301A pkg 2024 = Pro trailer assist, Pro hitch assist standard on 301, 302 and 303A pkgs 2025 = Pro trailer assist and remote start was stripped from 301, you must get the 302 or above to get those features its kind of crazy because the truck you are showing has the trailer brake controller, Tow/Haul Pkg and Max tow e-lock rear axle but not the pro trailer assist and pro hitch assist aka The knob.. also for 2025 for the XLT, 300A pkg.. no 360 camera, no knob, bench seat, column shifter aka watered down XLT and that level is still not affordable.
No heated seats is a deal breaker that too in a 60k price heated seats should be standard atleast in this xlt a k4 gt line has heated seats as standard and costs less than half of this
I priced out the pickup I wanted and it was $70k for an XLT. They So I decided I didn’t need to upgrade my 2020. They do have some big discounts finally.
Even IF this particular truck came standard with all the missing features (remote start, rear operating window, tailgate assist, etc.) it STILL wouldn't warrant the $60K price tag. Next to the Tremor, why would anyone go for the XLT.
I was once considering an XLT but then the build and price was forcing me to add $12k on the truck for a package that included 1 feature I wanted. Just a lot of money for stuff I didn’t really want
Let me guess, there was "two different packages" but the one you wanted, that really had ONE FEATURE you wanted and a bunch of others you didn't, and Package 1 required Package 2 to also be added???? Drives me nuts they do this, if you can't add package A with out B those are NOT two packages FFS. They all do it and it's BS. My favorite is when the additional package has completely unrelated crap, Oh you want better headlights so you can see at night? Well then you have to add 20in rims and a "night edition" package! NO!!!!!!!! lol It's like I'm shopping for cable television all over again.
Seriously, manufacturers keep features behind expensive packages just to sell more expensive trucks. Like, if you just wanted to add heated seats, you have to get the XLT Mid 302A package which is $4k with stuff you may or may not want.
@@daniel0atk 100% While they deserve their fair share of criticism at least Ram allows heated steering/seats for about $400ish bucks without having to add anything else in Bighorn on up, at least in 3/4 and 1ton as those are all I shop.
Msrp on my 2023 f150 3.5 liter sport xlt was 63k but got it for 57k. I leased it being i can't afford to finance this truck. It's ok but I'm going back to a V8 when my lease is up and buying older.
@joeyboy3209 Great choice brother, I've traded in my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with over 163,000 miles on it for a 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it that only had 32 miles on it and now has over 4500 miles on it and let me tell you the Titan is a freakn beast.
I could upgrade vehicles but at these current prices it’s a hard sell. Even as a guy that makes 200k a year. I want a tremor but I drive a paid off toyota 4Runner with 190000km that I might just keep until it blows up
I heard cost cutting by removing buttons… it has t gotten any cheaper so they can’t be cutting too much. Nice looking truck and I’m sure it performs well but 60k for a truck with almost no options. Ayyy. No heated anything, no push button start or remote start and cloth seats. Crazy this is almost a base truck at a premium high trim price. The f150 is no longer affordable unless you go used. I will stick with my little Maverick. It has heated steering wheel, seats and remote start and is awd all the time and still has 4 doors and is plenty quick enough. It was almost half the cost of this. I love the truck but just can’t believe how crazy expensive full size trucks are.
Idk I bought a fully loaded ram in 2015…. It was 5 years old with 21k miles and I paid 30k. Realizing most likely never have a nice truck again because won’t pay these prices.
it depends on what the buyer makes annually say for ex your a Police Captain makes around 140,000 a year before overtime etc. as tech increases that drives the price of vehicles up also depends on dealership you buy from some are notorious for overcharging Pride Hyundai on Lynn Way Lynn Mass is an example when my parents bought my moms 2012 Azera limited the sticker price was 38,000 but dad negotiated it down to 32,450 which was 15% off where as when they bought my late maternal Grandmothers 2005 Toyota Camry LE the sticker price was $21,125 but they paid 18,450 due to paying cash etc. she had the car paid off in 4 yrs monthly payment was 384.40 a month where as now same model with same options would cost over 30,000 of course hers was cheaper because it didn't have a sunroof
It will be a very, very long time before I buy a new vehicle again. Most Americans are tired of being duped, repeatedly for decades. We won’t soon forget.😊
16 MPG around town, the official EPA rating, so likely going to be less than that if we are being honest. So a 1/2 ton, "bare bones" by today's standards, "fuel efficient" 1/2 ton SMALL DISPLACEMENT with forced induction and it's getting LESS THAN 2MPG more, once again with the EPA's fantasy ratings, than my NA 6.2L F350 CC SB SRW! WHY WHY WHY? We also know, thanks to places like Gettys Garage and TFL, that when towing these baby engines can hang but what little "fuel economy" they have goes out the window when you ask the little guys to actually do some work. 3.5 "eco"boost vs a 6.2L Boss, I know which one I will bet on to last longer doing actual work.
@@briancavanaugh7604 Exactly mate, these EcoBoost engines in these overpriced EcoBoost trucks (as well as those stupid Hurricane engines in those Rams) don't get that much better MPG than my 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it with 400 HP and 413 Ibs of Torque.
ouch. EV’s need lots of R&D $. I have a feeling that all manufacturers are spreading the cost across all their vehicles. I have no interest in buying an electric car, but i think I’ll be paying for a fraction of someone’s car whether I like it or not.
The f150s just look like grand pa trucks. They have no kind of aggressive styling and their wheels are horrible. Ram and the gm trucks look way better.
@AlexAlex-gs1xh Agreed 100%, mine is an SV and it only cost me $45K brand new and plus I get a 5 year 100,000 bumper to bumper warranty as well as a lifetime power train warranty vs Ford with they're 3 year 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty as well as a 60,000 mile power train warranty.
60K No remote start or heated seats. Seems like that should be standard on that trim & price level.
True 2025 Silverado gives all except heated seats and it cost me 40k
It does have remote start through the Ford app on your phone
With this prices my F-150 2018 XLT Sport crew cab with 67k miles for $17k looks like was a steaal
I got a 2009 f150 xl just last week with 130k miles for 35k 😢
@allstar2709 There’s no way. That sounds fake.
@@kimballwhite have you ever heard of getting scammed
@@allstar2709lol u either dumb or slow
They do a ton of cost cutting, alright. With none of that going to reduce the price.
UAW has entered the chat
60 K seriously! Its a truck! Just got out of my 4wd 5.0 reg cab for a 2wd 24 F150 RC with 5.0 after rebates and customer loyalty OTD 34k
My God, $59k for a mid level XLT. Let these things sit on the lot
60k seems expensive for what you get, I guess the tremor is a better price-value
I honestly think this is the best screen setup you can get on a vehicle. It fits nicely in the dash, still has all the buttons you need, and it’s not overly large.
Ben FYI. I was looking at used Ford F150's in my area. The XLT truck held their values the best of all. A two year old F150 King ranch with 35K miles at my local ford dealership was down nearly 30K from its original MSRP. XLT is best bang for the buck.
One other thing, the 360 camera was standard on the 301,302, and 303A pkg, that also has been stripped from the 301A..
I don’t see any difference than my 2020 f150 xlt. I bought it new in 2020 for $38,000 with 1.9% interest rate. I plan to keep it till wheel fall off.
Ben hear me out, unrelated to this video. If you get the chance, please do a 2500 ZR2 vs a 2500 AT4 review. I know you did the comparison with the AT4X. However from a pricing standpoint 2500 ZR2 and 2500 AT4 is pretty much the same. I’m thinking to go gas V8, don’t need the Duramax capability as I’m not towing anything. I’m wondering which is the better driving truck, which has the better interior, which is a more comfortable ride. I do care about MPG, my guess is that AT4 would do slightly better due to the tire setup. Thank you from VA, love your videos! Keep up the great work! No one does it at the level you’re doing it at out here on YT! 👊
Should be called an STX.
There are many thousands of new 2024 F150s sitting on Ford dealer lots that they need to move. So if you are a smart consumer, why would you want a 2025 other than color choice?
Its 2025 and we are sticking bladed keys into ignitions. Ford never ceases to amaze me.
Ben, I just looked at that truck from the link you put in the description. its equipped with the 301A pkg
2024 = Pro trailer assist, Pro hitch assist standard on 301, 302 and 303A pkgs
2025 = Pro trailer assist and remote start was stripped from 301, you must get the 302 or above to get those features
its kind of crazy because the truck you are showing has the trailer brake controller, Tow/Haul Pkg and Max tow e-lock rear axle but not the pro trailer assist and pro hitch assist aka The knob..
also for 2025 for the XLT, 300A pkg.. no 360 camera, no knob, bench seat, column shifter aka watered down XLT and that level is still not affordable.
No heated seats is a deal breaker that too in a 60k price heated seats should be standard atleast in this xlt a k4 gt line has heated seats as standard and costs less than half of this
I priced out the pickup I wanted and it was $70k for an XLT. They So I decided I didn’t need to upgrade my 2020. They do have some big discounts finally.
Even IF this particular truck came standard with all the missing features (remote start, rear operating window, tailgate assist, etc.) it STILL wouldn't warrant the $60K price tag. Next to the Tremor, why would anyone go for the XLT.
Been looking for a f150 with the 5.0 and 6.5ft bed 303 package
A unicorn. I want to upgrade from my 2018 XLT to Lariat, but tough to find one with the 5.0 and 6.5' bed.
Got those same Wrangler Tires in my 23 F150, with 30k on them the are really good in snow, I was really surprised how they do.
I was once considering an XLT but then the build and price was forcing me to add $12k on the truck for a package that included 1 feature I wanted. Just a lot of money for stuff I didn’t really want
Let me guess, there was "two different packages" but the one you wanted, that really had ONE FEATURE you wanted and a bunch of others you didn't, and Package 1 required Package 2 to also be added???? Drives me nuts they do this, if you can't add package A with out B those are NOT two packages FFS. They all do it and it's BS. My favorite is when the additional package has completely unrelated crap, Oh you want better headlights so you can see at night? Well then you have to add 20in rims and a "night edition" package! NO!!!!!!!! lol It's like I'm shopping for cable television all over again.
Seriously, manufacturers keep features behind expensive packages just to sell more expensive trucks. Like, if you just wanted to add heated seats, you have to get the XLT Mid 302A package which is $4k with stuff you may or may not want.
Yeah. Ford is particularly bad for this I find
@@daniel0atk 100% While they deserve their fair share of criticism at least Ram allows heated steering/seats for about $400ish bucks without having to add anything else in Bighorn on up, at least in 3/4 and 1ton as those are all I shop.
So you can get a bare bones XLT f150 for $59k or get a Silverado high country for under $65k. Ford has lost their mind.
Msrp on my 2023 f150 3.5 liter sport xlt was 63k but got it for 57k. I leased it being i can't afford to finance this truck. It's ok but I'm going back to a V8 when my lease is up and buying older.
@joeyboy3209 Great choice brother, I've traded in my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with over 163,000 miles on it for a 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it that only had 32 miles on it and now has over 4500 miles on it and let me tell you the Titan is a freakn beast.
I could upgrade vehicles but at these current prices it’s a hard sell. Even as a guy that makes 200k a year. I want a tremor but I drive a paid off toyota 4Runner with 190000km that I might just keep until it blows up
WTF good lord $59k for a base truck
You should really do a 302A Xlt. No one buys a 301A. Most people just go with a STX instead.
Can you check if Chevrolet has gotten any Zr1 in.
I heard cost cutting by removing buttons… it has t gotten any cheaper so they can’t be cutting too much. Nice looking truck and I’m sure it performs well but 60k for a truck with almost no options. Ayyy. No heated anything, no push button start or remote start and cloth seats. Crazy this is almost a base truck at a premium high trim price. The f150 is no longer affordable unless you go used. I will stick with my little Maverick. It has heated steering wheel, seats and remote start and is awd all the time and still has 4 doors and is plenty quick enough. It was almost half the cost of this. I love the truck but just can’t believe how crazy expensive full size trucks are.
Idk I bought a fully loaded ram in 2015…. It was 5 years old with 21k miles and I paid 30k. Realizing most likely never have a nice truck again because won’t pay these prices.
Sure and I want $50k for my 2019 trade in ! 😂
it depends on what the buyer makes annually say for ex your a Police Captain makes around 140,000 a year before overtime etc. as tech increases that drives the price of vehicles up also depends on dealership you buy from some are notorious for overcharging Pride Hyundai on Lynn Way Lynn Mass is an example when my parents bought my moms 2012 Azera limited the sticker price was 38,000 but dad negotiated it down to 32,450 which was 15% off where as when they bought my late maternal Grandmothers 2005 Toyota Camry LE the sticker price was $21,125 but they paid 18,450 due to paying cash etc. she had the car paid off in 4 yrs monthly payment was 384.40 a month where as now same model with same options would cost over 30,000 of course hers was cheaper because it didn't have a sunroof
60K?! I'm gone
beautiful F150
Vs David Mini Countryman
No heated seats on a $60k truck is insane
It will be a very, very long time before I buy a new vehicle again.
Most Americans are tired of being duped, repeatedly for decades.
We won’t soon forget.😊
In october of 2024 i bought a brand nee f150 xlt 301a the msrp was 56646 and i got it for 46000!!!
16 MPG around town, the official EPA rating, so likely going to be less than that if we are being honest. So a 1/2 ton, "bare bones" by today's standards, "fuel efficient" 1/2 ton SMALL DISPLACEMENT with forced induction and it's getting LESS THAN 2MPG more, once again with the EPA's fantasy ratings, than my NA 6.2L F350 CC SB SRW! WHY WHY WHY?
We also know, thanks to places like Gettys Garage and TFL, that when towing these baby engines can hang but what little "fuel economy" they have goes out the window when you ask the little guys to actually do some work. 3.5 "eco"boost vs a 6.2L Boss, I know which one I will bet on to last longer doing actual work.
@@briancavanaugh7604 Exactly mate, these EcoBoost engines in these overpriced EcoBoost trucks (as well as those stupid Hurricane engines in those Rams) don't get that much better MPG than my 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it with 400 HP and 413 Ibs of Torque.
Ford built nice trucks. Good for work cool truck like it
the STX is the more 'afFORDable" F150.
Those are still 45k plus
2025 Ford F-150 XLT Sport Black Appearance Pack SuperCrew Cab 4X4!
The better value is to probably just get a 2025 Chevy 1500
NOT!
True I did got that I have everything except heated seats
ouch. EV’s need lots of R&D $. I have a feeling that all manufacturers are spreading the cost across all their vehicles. I have no interest in buying an electric car, but i think I’ll be paying for a fraction of someone’s car whether I like it or not.
It needs more advanced technology. Can I watch movies on the infotainment screen whilst getting a massage from the heated seats? If not, me no buy.
This is a $38,000 work truck. Get over yourselves, FORD! What a ripoff
Ben you do good video's but you talk a little too fast.
It’s not at all affordable 😢when just xl crew cab is 45k plus
Truck will not sell for 60k i see them going for under 50k if you pay msrp for that its on you😂
Na not more than 45k
@ i seen the same exact truck going for like 44k dealers price
@@ms1406 That’s good I couldn’t find one all dealer wanted was more than 45k plus tax tittle blah warranty so ended up getting Silverado
@ ok thats good ive been seeing the silverado customs going for like 40k
Where is the button to turn off the auto stop start. And what is up with all the white trucks
Auto stop start is the best feature ever no need to turn it off
@@AlexAlex-gs1xh Oh my god. That's why 90% of people hate it.
@michaelhayes9773 no it's the best feature and gives slightly better fuel efficiency.
@@michaelhayes9773 gas is too expensive.
the sierra single cab looks better
They still make those?
They do but single cab is 35k
No
Haha 😂😂😂😂
The f150s just look like grand pa trucks. They have no kind of aggressive styling and their wheels are horrible. Ram and the gm trucks look way better.
Affordable & truck don’t belong in the same sentence….There’s a reason The big 3 have overflowing inventory of this overpriced unreliable product..
Boring 🎉plastic all same trash 🚮 time to be more creative 😂
Wow what an overpriced truck, $60K no thanks I'll stick to my 2024 Nissan Titan with the 5.6L Endurance V8 in it.
Good choice I would say the best truck u could have bought must have more features than this for sure at a lower price.
@AlexAlex-gs1xh Agreed 100%, mine is an SV and it only cost me $45K brand new and plus I get a 5 year 100,000 bumper to bumper warranty as well as a lifetime power train warranty vs Ford with they're 3 year 60,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty as well as a 60,000 mile power train warranty.
@CJColvin yes and I believe u have heated seats too.
@AlexAlex-gs1xh Correct, the only thing I don't have is a heated steering wheel nor the moon roof.
@CJColvin to be honest u can manage without heated stearing wheel but heated seats are very helpful specifically in 20f and lower.
For 60k fook no 42k yes