Don't forget how horrified he was when Bruce brought back his parents and the entire cemetery! I think he agreed Harley the whole "over 9,000%" Yet, his love and care for Bruce let him go along with the entire thing, I mean he could have sabotaged somethings but Bruce would have found out, been more hurt and driven insane by this, plus, Alfred would have lost his job and been unable to be there for Bruce.
@@AngelicHalfblood strange thing however. Previous season Alfred was putting his foot down to prevent Bruce to go back to crime fighting before he was ready. This time however he isn’t trying to prevent something far worse.
That's the thing about Alfred, he loves Bruce like a son, but his position as butler means he has no choice but to be an enabler most of the time. He can't try to reason with Bruce, but with the power dynamic he can only do so much.
"To think, all this trauma... from an Antonio Banderas film." "No, that's the 90's one. I'm talking about the black and whi- it doesn't matter." That's just a top tier interaction.
Seeing Harley become the therapist for Bruce Wayne's subconscious was wholesome. And she's right. His conscious self is too fixated on his parents. And I love how Clayface is just interested in this because of his acting. So silly.
@Damsen Children never handle trauma well because the mind is not fully developed, there is a reason phobias and certain PTSDs form from childhood trauma
Well you're talking about Clayface, Basil Carlo here. The guy literally murdered the entire cast that was remaking one of his films. The guy is an actor at heart.
“Master Bruce… put down the crack pipe.” “BAT-CRACK PIPE!” “Yes, very good, put down the bat-crack pipe and come to dinner.” “I am JUSTICE!” “… I shall fetch the bat-tranquillisers.”
@@nicholasmartin6526 I do And Ultimately Alfred Raised Bruce but clearly Bruce is still a Rich Dude with deep psychological issues that no one could stop him from doing whatever he wants thus the whole reason he is Batman in the first place
@@mr.j410 Alfred was more like someone who helped Bruce cope and become decently functional, but he isn't the type to make Bruce confront his inner demons. Beside the fact that Alfred is more of a gentle nurturer, his relationship is Bruce is waaay too personal for that. It is why Bruce needed professional help and someone like Harley, who is empathetic enough but just spits the facts out.
This reminds me of that Dorkly short where alfred hired a troupe of actors to play Batman’s villains in order for him unable to deal properly with his grief.
Confidentiality for patients, every psychiatric place does that unless you are wanting to hurt others or yourself, mandatory reporting. Been in and out of therapy which is how i know this and I am a secretary for a psychiatric facility as well.
@@l0sts0ul89 Sure, but what kid now would ask pester their parents to watch an old black and film. Usually they take an interest when they’re older or their parents showed it to him prior.
@@ghostspider2056 Batman is in like his 30s or something, back then it was action stars and stuff so watching a black and white movie might not be out of the question
@@fatalisblack7213 I swear Joker will make sure Gotham will never forget how Bruce started a zombie apocalypse before he could deliver their electric cars.
Notice that Bruce said his Dad wanted to take him to the shareholders meeting? I think this implies that Bruce’s Dad was more business man than family man and most likely convinced by Alfred and/or his wife to take Bruce to the movies. Bruce is so focused on the death of his parents that he doesn’t remember what his parents were like.
@@illbadger2076 like you said. In MOST stories. This show is known for pretty much being unpredictable and flipping common DC elements around. I’m not saying that they were bad. More like unintentionally neglectful. I feel like Thomas did love Bruce, but wanted him to focus on business instead of being a normal kid. And I feel it was actually Alfred who convinced Thomas to take him to the movies and he blames himself for their deaths. He didn’t tell Bruce this because he was afraid he would lose Bruce too. This is why he allowed him to become Batman. It’s Alfred’s penance.
That was with Doctor Destiny, IIRC. Which makes me think: if somehow The Joker got into Batman's mind and vice versa the results could be interesting...
@@juhanipolvi4729 Joker inside Bat's mind? Done already, he was called Batman Who Laughs and he has done increeeeeeedibly evil and very messed up deeds. (Small taste - shooting the members of the Batfamily with two SMGs except Damian whose head he totally broke and made him crazy too) Alternative: Batman Arkham Series. Dunno which one exactly, but i distincly remember something about Batman being poisoned and seeing illusions with Joker... And it would eventually made him Joker if he hadn't stop it. But Arkham City maybe? Dunno, u will have to find out.
“The mind me is flexible” That’s not entirely wrong, we all have dark thought, Bruce is no different in his line of work, but he strong enough to avoid temptation, which is why it’s messed up that he would revive his parents without thinking there’d be consequences.
When trauma is too great people will do horrible and/or stupid things thinking it will make it right or go away and that is why Bruce isn’t thinking straight, he’s so caught up in the thought of making things right in his own twisted way that he forgets every choice has a consequence. He wants to atone so bad that he will do anything to make that happen, his character is so incredibly well done and human that it is one of the best in DC
@@skydivided7997 But hasn’t he gone through mental training to avoid acting on those temptations, hence why Batman never work on the Lazarus pit to revive them.
@@Daktangle But hasn’t he gone through mental training to avoid acting on those temptations, hence why Batman never work on the Lazarus pit to revive them.
Say what you will about this show, both good and bad, it does *new* things or at at least feels like it. It's nice having a sandbox feel where really anything can go. Feels refreshing.
Yeah. I love this show has the guts to go against the grain like this and surprisingly make it work. Joker becoming a legitimate family man who loves his step wife and kids and is now mayor; Harley drifting out of villainy and beginning to want to help people again; Bruce spiralling into his deep-seated grief from years of repressing his pain resulting in a zombie apocalypse now! It's crazy, its beautiful and I LOVE IT!!
Yeah. There are a lot of things in this that wouldn't fly at all in the canon universe, but given that this is its own world with its own history and set of rules, it's cool to see them going some interesting directions.
If only they weren't so horrifically causal about murder. Murder here needs to be a shocking things in this universe to really sell the world and it's themes. And this is the one place where there's a turd floating in the chef's soup.
The fact Bruce blame himself for not be able to save his parents , to this very day seen same nightmare over and over, what batman truly is isn’t Bruce but rather a little boy who scared and who watch his whole world being taking away from him. It’s bring me into tears every time I remember this fact.
I love how The Joker and Bruce have essentially swapped roles at this point with Joker coming up with some genuinely good policies for Gotham while Bruce has become a crazed menace
Fun fact: Whispering is actually louder than both talking and talking quietly because the whisper voice creates a higher frequency which is easier to hear.
Depends on range and obstructions. Higher frequencies dissipate faster than lower ones. It's called attenuation, and is basically when sound waves are converted into other forms of energy as a result of interacting with the medium. Lower frequencies are absorbed less than high frequencies. They're also less reflective--high pitched noises will bounce off walls and be mostly constrained to the room, while low pitched ones will penetrate easily. It's why you can easily hear the bass track from your neighbor's stereo through several walls, but not know what's being said. So whispering might not help you conceal your conversation from someone 2 feet away, but it will absolutely help from across the room.
That actually explains something. Years ago, I shared an office with a guy whose girlfriend/fiancé would sometimes come in to sit and talk with him. And whenever they wanted to say something confidential/private they'd start whispering. I never actually minded them talking when I was working because I could just block it out (small value add of public education). But whenever they would start to whisper it was like it cut through everything and instantly grabbed all of my attention. Eventually I just asked them to speak normally because I only ever listened to what they were saying when they were whispering. They stopped having chats in the office after that, ah well
i know people are upset at how bruce became here but have to be honest this whole thing got me in tears, you just don't see bruce showing this much hidden emotion about his parents and how he blames himself everyday. i don't remember seeing a episode or even another show, showing this side to bruce and i do hope people don't think really ill of him doing this trauma can really fuck you up to the point your mind is just well reverse trauma. never want to rethink the same thing everyday just to make something that never ever gonna change, i do hope bruce heals he is human not just batman.
@@zombspideyspecial yeah, he begged his parents forgiveness because he was seriously considering just having a life and being happy. Instead of being am agent of justice.
@@zombspideyspecialYeah what the previous reply said where he twice considers not being Batman (well the first time it's when he considers giving up what would become Batman). However the show that goes much closer is Brave And The Bold in the episode where he directly confronts Joe Chill.
I remember that scene at the grave in Mask of the Phantasm where he was weeping. Bruce HATES himself. He wants to die, he wants to burn. He considers himself a murderer by proxy. He wishes he'd never been born because his parents would still be alive.
I commented on a previous clip that Bruce was backsliding and having trouble dealing with the death of his parents, but I had no idea HOW MUCH Bruce was backsliding. Bruce bringing his parents back from the dead is something I never thought I'd see him do and I am excited for it. This is "Batman-Acting-Out-Of-Character" done right. The whole season, Batman has been depressed, emotional, and in denial about dealing with his childhood lifelong trauma. This is a portrayal of Batman that's rarely touched upon and I can't wait to see where the show goes with it.
The showrunners said this whole thing basically started because of Clayface telling him in episode 2 that James Gunn was making a biopic of his parents
It's so funny because not even a year ago Damian tried to do almost the same thing in the comics to bring Alfred back to life. He and Bruce are literally the same person
Lazarus Pits can have some irreversible side effects and he understood that the risk was too much. His mother gave him the resin because she knew what Damián would use it for.
@@ultimatefree8637 Not quite. Damian died in the comics and Bruce moved heaven and earth to resurrect him. The man marched into Apocalypse with the Bat-fam and challenged Darkseid in order to pull it off.
Not very often you see Batman or Bruce Wayne ask someone else for help. But I thought that was a very lovely moment, where he asks Harley Quinn to help him and she gives him a hug promising to help him anyway she can. I hope in Season 4 he sits down with her for a therapy session and she can help him overcome his demons as well as King Shark too, they need a good therapist after this past season. And the scene before this where she asks for his consent to be his licensed therapist best part of this whole episode. That's the part of Harley Quinn I love the most where she can prove she can be trusted or called upon when you need help
I love how this universe really goes out of its way to showcase that Harley and Ivy aren't just supervillian sex icons, but that they're truly very smart women who both have doctorates and are masters in their fields!
Not once have they been what you just described even for the animated batman series which harley was created for showcased multiple sides of them from Harley's skills as a doctor to her own personal issues..aswell as ivy even showing a episode where they try to leave the villain life behind but they end up I. The same place even after getting every thing they wanted
yeah sure (like anyone who ever watched the original batman the animate series would say: get off your high horse), this is nothing more than queering up DC (mind you, I actually do like the relationship between harley and Ivy, considering they've been besties for ages, it sorta feels organic) at the expense of dumbing down or even outright ruining other characters. The show is still fun to watch, but the political undertone is rather a cringe element that makes it sometimes a bit... stale, if you know what I mean.
I like the symbolism in all of this: The *real* Bruce Wayne (and therefore the real Batman) is that little boy trapped in his head. Whereas the adult is neither Bruce Wayne or Batman, he's just Joe Chill in another mask, forcing that little boy to see his parents be gunned down again and again.
This might honestly be my favorite episode in the series. I had to watch it twice back to back. This was an amazing look at both Bruce and Harley. The fact that Harley was able to even explore Bruce's memories was clearly because he subconsciously wanted her to. She saw a hurt, traumatized 8 y/o and decided to help him, and he clung to that. Bruce trained to protect his mind from psychic probing, and the reverse repression shows that that kinda holds true even in this continuity, even kicking everyone but Harley out of his mind. That innocent, childlike part of him wants so badly for someone to save him, that at the moment she showed the human kindness to cover his eyes and try to shield him from that pain, he held on to her. And it's not that he didn't realize the risk, or that part of him was naive. He was just hurting that badly. And the fact that Harley freaking Quinn decided that this poor kid needs therapy, and I'm going to give it to him just sent me. Because even after she found out he was Batman, you can tell, that when she looks at him, she doesn't see Batman any more, or billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne. She sees a hurting 8 y/o boy, crying in an alley.
@@Ares99999 Batman TAS is a series that will never be matched in quality and story telling. There is no comparison. This series is not meant to be taken seriously, and is a joke series with a bit of character insight.
*Writer:* Do we really have to go over that dead parents thing again? *Producer:* As part of the Batman property, we're contractually obligated to remind the audience that Batman's parents are dead *Writer:* But we've already done that story hundreds of times across dozens of continuities by now! *Producer:* Hm... what's the tolerance level of the audience? *Writer:* Well, they seemed to like the Suburban Dad Joker-- *Producer:* Are there any story arcs we haven't thrown into the blender yet? *Writer:* We have a couple of really edgy ones, but-- *Producer:* Take all of those and throw in these posts I found on Reddit. The fans are going to...well, they'll probably hate it, but the view count is going to skyrocket!
honestly this seems something straight out of the comics of bruce trying to revive his parents when he is at his breaking point, I mean the person he had felt the closest to had just told him she didnt feel the same way about him and when you are as fucked up as bruce in a world that has limitless possibilities, you would try and exploit some of those possibilities
Yeah a lot of people in the story include most of the robins (especially Todd) dont get the reason batman doesnt kill is because he's not "above it all", he's "all of the above" in terms of issues and if he does, he'll go full fkn pyscho, Batman Who Laughs. Its exactly what fascinates the joker so much, the punchline he wants and hopes never comes.
A lot of people are saying Batman woulnd't give into temptation in order to bring back his parents but... we're not dealing with Batman, we're dealing with Bruce Wayne. We've gotten far enough in Media in Batman's history to know he uses the costume as a means to "Not feel" anything when he's being his alter ego, or alternate personality. Batman has a will of steel, a skilled fighter and a tacticians mentality even when in battle. Bruce Wayne HOWEVER is very little of those things. Bruce at this point in his life has gotten to where the costume doesn't just stay a costume, it's his means to be the Symbol Batman the Hero. When he's Bruce Wayne, he's physically and mentally vulnerable because he doesn't have the mask to hide from his own face. On top of that Bruce isn't just dealing with long term trauma and guilt, he tried raising a family with his bat orphans which doesn't really go well, he almost died in the Joker's tower, was in a coma, had his body broken TWICE by Bane, went through a bad break up with Catwoman and he's realizing his age is catching up to him. Not to mention I think he's also dealing with the fact that Joker and Harley have had more development as people and in some ways are doing more good for Gotham then he ever did and being a super hero isn't pushing down his trauma like it used to. Yes he has denied using the Lazerus pit before because it is a LITERAL DEMON HOLE that corrupts anyone that uses it with immortality. So he sees Frank and gets an idea in the midst of his midlife crisis and break up with Catwoman. This is the most human we've seen Bruce Wayne since the Animated Batman 90's show, where the show explored his trauma to a degree but never really showed him truly dealing with it. This is why i like this show, we're seeing Bruce Wayne at his most human aspect in modern media as a bonus to an awesome Harley Quinn show.
There's been lots of different retcons why the Waynes cut through the alley. 1) A cop told Alfred he couldn't park in front of the theatre. 2) The usher who would have informed Alfred got into an argument with his manager. 3) There was a medical emergency at the hospital so Thomas cut through the alley to save time.
Honestly all of them work at once. The timeline would be this. The Usher who would've helped Alfred park the Limo got into an argument with his manager, so Alfred just tries waiting for them on the side of the road. The cop pulls him over saying that they're unable to park there, so he would need to park somewhere further away. Meanwhile, an unaware Bruce is being a happy kid, while Thomas got a notice that there was a medical emergency so they needed to rush to the hospital. Unfortunately, no Alfred, so they would need to hoof it. In Bruce's mind, he thought that he was the reason for killing his parents since he most likely went on ahead, and got caught by Joe. Bruce still thinks it's his fault due to childhood trauma and the fact Thomas never mentioned what happened. There was a lot of things that could've happened differently, but the Bruce/Batman we know now was built off the worst possible outcome which is extremely sad.
In _Batman: the Brave and the Bold_ (same voice actor for this Batman), Bruce throws a tantrum because he didn’t get a Zorro toy on Xmas and so the parents take him to see the movie instead. Bruce can’t stand to even acknowledge Xmas as Batman in the present. Worst one of them all, imo.
@@johannesseyfried7933 That sounded a little similar to Psychonauts Boyd when he's in his Milkman persona. "Is that the regular kind milk or the exploding kind?" "It's fortified with what the world wants, what the world Deserves!"
Gotta say, of all the directions this show was going to take, Batman kinda kicking off a zombie invasion of Gotham wasn’t one I was expecting, but one I’m DEFINITELY here for
This calls back to "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker." In one of the most memorable scenes of that movie, the Joker expressed his disappointment when he discovered Bruce Wayne and Batman were one and the same. "Behind all the Sturm-and-Batarangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit crying for mommy and daddy!" And in this situation at least, he was right. It just goes to show that despite all the heroic feats Batman has accomplished over the years, he still at times seems like that little boy who never truly grew up and never truly moved on from his trauma.
I'm beginning to wonder if my prediction on S4 is going to come true after all. With Harley knowing Wayne's identity, most of Gotham's villains reformed or dead, and Batman possibly getting over the whole trauma thing, a Batman who retires suddenly doesn't seem like an unreasonable idea.
Honestly, if they go that route it might be the perfect excuse to bring in Red Hood aka. Jason Todd. Batman retiring, Joker running Gotham, it's basically perfect conditions to bring him in and most likely have him as an antagonist.
I don't know why but I laughed my ass off at the Zorro joke. It really shouldn't be that funny, but for some reason Bruce getting indignant over which version of the movie he was talking about, only to immediately realize that's a whole dumb tangent and drops it to keep the story moving, I dunno it felt like a naturally awkward bit of conversation and it really sold the otherwise meh joke.
Honestly the idea of Bruce seeing himself as Joe Chill, and what that means for his guilty conscionce is such an amazing concept I'm surprised Harley Quinn is the first thing I've seen use it
It also makes his “no murder” and “no guns” rules make a hell of a lot more sense. Dude is traumatized and the only reason he doesn’t take full responsibility for his parent’s murder is the fact that he wasn’t the guy holding the gun and pulling the trigger. So he spends all his time keeping himself as far away as he can from being that. It’s not so much a code as a trauma-driven compulsion.
This series has an excellent understanding of psychology. It's one of the things that makes it a gem. Combining complex and multifaceted characters with gory violence and hilarious humour really makes this stand out from the hundreds of other DC universes. These writers are incredible.
I really do like the slight change to Batman‘s origin. I mean after all, dead parents are Dime-A-dozen in most superhero stories and true it is tragic, but by just a small tweak, by having it be Bruce’s decision to go to the movie AND walk down crime alley, it adds just enough to make it more unique and I hope other stories add this element.
It kind of reminds of Spider-Man's origin story, tbh. It makes sense, in a way. Spider-Man and Batman are each other's counterparts, Marvel and DC-wise.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq True, but if you look closer, they are more alike than you think. Both of them feel responsible for the deaths of loved ones, something that was out of their control, but the guilt still remains. Both promise to be better, to be heroes because of that loss. Peter and Bruce also both lost their first loves to their worst enemy. The list can go on and on. Hell, Marvel tried to make Spider-Man like Batman with the CEO of Parker Industries comic arc.
I can't wait for the next episode. mainly because i want to see how Joker is going to be able handle Bruce's mess, oh how the tables have turned. I hope his defunding the police doesn't come back to bite him, but he's the joker and he knows how gothem is, so he must be smart enough to have something prepared.
okay but is this gonna be a day of the dead/resident evil thing where the zombies have none of their living personality and are jsut rampaging monsters, a Night of the living dead thing where the ombies have some personality but are driven to murder humans by some side effect of the ressurection or is this gonna be a thriller bark sorta thing where they just completely have their personality and jsut look fucked up?
@oogaBooga I could see it going like , they wanna die but Bruce keeps resurrecting them and the point is by holding onto them he’s hurting them as much as he’s hurting himself , tho basic zombies probably is what we will get , but I think it would be cool if they were “alive” and wanted to die cause it’s painful but he won’t let them
I know joker selfishly became mayor just to one up that one competitive mom and get his "not real " kids to participate in duolingo education program, but bruce just started a zombie apocalyse to bring his parents back, his parents who at this point is nothing more than some fresh fossils and dirt
I like how even tho Batman is still a weird lonely child, they still made him Batman, totally able and capable of actually being Batman. They use the fact Batman has full control over ver his mind in the plot and it makes total sense.
And they will be pointing fingers! Not just at Harley or Bruce but everyone who had anything to do with them being dead and now everyone has their own ghost each to tangle with.
Though I was never a serial reader of Batman's various series (and thus am not entirely sure), I don't think any of the titles have ever *explicitly* explored Bruce's feelings of culpability. But the implication/understanding has always been that Bruce's entire motivation/character is built around the idea of "never again...no matter the cost." It's actually easier to believe that a man with such an overwhelming sense of guilt and remorse would plot how to kill/disable his "friends"/colleagues (just in case) because he can *never* rest or be at ease, instead of (bordering on Mary Sue) "Batman's always prepared." It reminds me of something Neil Gaiman once said: "...[H]ell is something you carry around with you. Not somewhere you go."
@@l0sts0ul89 either way batman is terrible at being a hero, just take it from peacemaker he doesn't have any super villains because they and i quote SIX FEET FUCKING UNDER
@@andrewcarlson3486 I want to ask, are you special? Like because unless you are then no one would say this, the reason why he doesn't kill his enemies is because 1) Killing is bad 2) ITS NOT HIS JOB TO KILL CRIMMINALS Literally how fucking dumb can one person get
It’s good to see Harley help Bruce through his issues Kinda feels like repaying him for all the times he saved her ass while she was still paired up with the joker
Damn, what can I say, Bruce really fell on the level of the psychos he is trying to stop, torturing a seemingly sentient creature so he can bring back his parents even when he wasn't sure if they will be in the same shape they were the night they died is something someone from his rogue gallery would do. Although I haven't watched the show yet so I hope I'm missing some context here.
Basically Bruce and Selena/Catwoman were forced by Musicman(who was hired by Alfred) to go through couples therapy. After a song, it comes to the conclusion that Selena doesn't have intrest in a longterm commitment with Bruce. After a couple of nights of depression and even throwing a gala for her, which Harley broke into to kidnap Bruce, Bruce is finally at his breaking point. Thus trying to revive his parents.
This is the kind of moment where Alfred should definitely slip off and call the rest of the League or the bat family or even let Harley "escape" cause this just went from 0 to 200 like that.
Ok it’s official this is the 2nd most unstable and insane Batman to ever exist. Guy is literally starting a zombie apocalypse to see his parents alive again. Most unstable and insane obviously goes to the Batman who laughs.
LoL, i have to say that this version of Bruce is INCREDIBLY clingy 🤣 I mean, i know that even in the comic books Batman did some pretty bad decision when it came to his parents, but this one? 😂 This is BEYOND anything i thought i would ever see 😂
Looks like this show is playing up that Bruce is mentally disturbed and emotionally stunted. He might accidentally be the big bad by creating an undead army and Joker's going to be Gotham's savior as Mayor? This show 😆
While it was MONUMENTALLY STUPID that Bruce took Frank to his parents instead of vice versa, is it consistent with this version of his character that he'd be blinded by the possibility of finally being free from decades of pain? Honestly, the clips in isolation show that the writers were trying to sincerely tackle the topic of Batman's psyche, of what makes him Batman. And I appreciate the effort to humanize Harley and deepen her character by showing how she reacts to those revelations. Certainly better than what the live action films have done with her, even in The Suicide Squad. Remembering her history as a psychologist and capitalizing on that for storytelling opportunities and character exploration? I am VERY happy to see the effort.
Okay, Bruce has completely lost his mind! His parents are brought back, yes, but what he doesn't realize is that they're zombies! And not only that, but other zombies are coming out of their respective graves, too! Nice going, Bruce, you've created a Zombie Apocalypse!
Bruce is so obsessed with bringing his parents back to life he didn't even think that they would be decayed skeletons. Shits going down these next two weeks
@@Tezcatlipoca2000 being upset that someone doesn't reciprocate your feelings isn't incel behavior. It's what you do with that sadness and disappointment that decides that.
So this just goes to show that Batman has two shadows. One a child version of him that wants to let go of the past and two an adult version who feels like what happened to that night to his parents is his fault and he deserves to be punished for it. Both sides are his but he can't reconcile with either.
You know. I applaud Harley Quinn for taking this route. I wasn't expecting this turn of events at all. This really got deep for me honestly. I am fully aware this is a comedy/parody show but at the start, I was a little iffy about Batman's character in this series. But after watching more of this season, and finding out the motive as to why Bruce kidnapped Frank had me, not only wanting more but feeling even more bad for Bruce then I already had. This was funny, but really sad. I just want to give Bruce a hug. I can't wait for season 4. These last episodes revolving around Bruce also gave me Mask of the Phantasm vibes as well which is also good. We get to see Bruce, even when he is Batman.
Here's the flaw every time people try to resurrect people: even if you resurrect the body, the soul is still gone. Naruto is the only show I know that got resurrection right.
What about full metal alchemist. They tried to bring back there mother but the whole resurrection process just made a monster instead and it costed them there limbs and a body
To be fair the Lazarus pit is pretty good at bringing people back to life soul included (it tends to mess up there minds sometimes though) however the Lazarus pit needs to be used relatively soon after the death, I just guessing but I'd say like a year dead tops. Bruce's parents have been dead at least 20ish years.
@@rushalias8511 my point exactly. They couldn't get it right either. He brought his brother's soul back, but not his body. So the problem was actually a reverse of what I just explained. But at least he wasn't a zombie.
@@diinouhothead9362 I don't count Dragonball. I use the term "dead" in they show as such. Because their soul isn't really gone on another realm, they just go to a different plant basically. Think about it.
Not really, the reason why Joker was compelled to face off with Batman because he felt that the Batman was the same as him. Someone who was just as crazy and unhinged as him is/was which is hard to argue against because he go around at night fighting people in a bat costume. Sure he help out other but doesn’t mean what he’s doing is healthy or sane.
I love the fact the Clayface can easily escape from those bindings but chooses not to so he can keep studying Bruce's trauma-fueled history.
I always loved how over the top he is, and committed to his acting endeavors.
A true showman all around.
And everyone else has forgotten that fact lol
why did the bat family even wrap clayface in ropes, they know he can shapeshift
Shouldn't he be contained in a type of pod or vessel? This is like putting Sandman in a cell with bars
Same with psycho he's a God dam telepath he can just untie all of them
I like how Alfred looks at Bruce when Harley’s talking about working through his problems. He agreed 200%
Don't forget how horrified he was when Bruce brought back his parents and the entire cemetery!
I think he agreed Harley the whole "over 9,000%"
Yet, his love and care for Bruce let him go along with the entire thing, I mean he could have sabotaged somethings but Bruce would have found out, been more hurt and driven insane by this, plus, Alfred would have lost his job and been unable to be there for Bruce.
@@AngelicHalfblood yeah alfred is the best thing to ever happen to the batman family period no questions asked
@@AngelicHalfblood strange thing however. Previous season Alfred was putting his foot down to prevent Bruce to go back to crime fighting before he was ready. This time however he isn’t trying to prevent something far worse.
working through his problems is the kind of shit Alfred says daily.
That's the thing about Alfred, he loves Bruce like a son, but his position as butler means he has no choice but to be an enabler most of the time. He can't try to reason with Bruce, but with the power dynamic he can only do so much.
"To think, all this trauma... from an Antonio Banderas film."
"No, that's the 90's one. I'm talking about the black and whi- it doesn't matter."
That's just a top tier interaction.
No, it's a cheap pop-culture-based throwaway, like half the show's 'humor'.
@@Scipio488 _LOL_ Batman is literally pop-culture.
@@Scipio488 ratio 👆
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@@Scipio488 Dude, the Shows main Cast is more Pop Culture than that Joke
Seeing Harley become the therapist for Bruce Wayne's subconscious was wholesome. And she's right. His conscious self is too fixated on his parents. And I love how Clayface is just interested in this because of his acting. So silly.
@Damsen Children never handle trauma well because the mind is not fully developed, there is a reason phobias and certain PTSDs form from childhood trauma
@Damsen yeah
Well you're talking about Clayface, Basil Carlo here. The guy literally murdered the entire cast that was remaking one of his films. The guy is an actor at heart.
Most unrealistic part of this show is that Alfred lets Bruce do this.
FUCKING EXACTLY ALFRED WOULD NEVER LET BRUCE PULL SOME SHIT LIKE THIS
“Master Bruce… put down the crack pipe.”
“BAT-CRACK PIPE!”
“Yes, very good, put down the bat-crack pipe and come to dinner.”
“I am JUSTICE!”
“… I shall fetch the bat-tranquillisers.”
Bruce Wayne is Rich. What makes you think Alfred could have stopped him?
@@Marky11694 the fact that you asked this shows you do not know Alfred.
@@nicholasmartin6526 I do And Ultimately Alfred Raised Bruce but clearly Bruce is still a Rich Dude with deep psychological issues that no one could stop him from doing whatever he wants thus the whole reason he is Batman in the first place
"Why should I trust you?"
"Because I promised a little boy I'd help, and I will."
Damn, right in the feels
The Harleen Quinzel in Harley Quinn.
"Moving on doesn't mean forgetting. It means healing." That is the single most mature thing she has ever said that makes great sense.
They really putting her backstory as a therapist to work, love it
Yes, that happens with ageing.
Probably the most help Bruce has gotten to confront his actual traumas (other than Thompkins).
Just gonna ignore Alfred huh
Yeah. Bring back Jason Todd so he becomes the Red Hood!!!
@@mr.j410 Alfred was more like someone who helped Bruce cope and become decently functional, but he isn't the type to make Bruce confront his inner demons. Beside the fact that Alfred is more of a gentle nurturer, his relationship is Bruce is waaay too personal for that. It is why Bruce needed professional help and someone like Harley, who is empathetic enough but just spits the facts out.
Because he doesn't really actually want to.
This reminds me of that Dorkly short where alfred hired a troupe of actors to play Batman’s villains in order for him unable to deal properly with his grief.
At least Harley Quinn agreed to keep Batman's Identity a secret.
Man I'd expose the son of a bitch for the chaos he unleashed
I kinda like the kid version of Bruce Wayne a lot better than grown-up Bruce Wayne rn
They now have Therapist-Patient Confidentiality.
After torturing him and forcing her way into his mind. She's so great..
Confidentiality for patients, every psychiatric place does that unless you are wanting to hurt others or yourself, mandatory reporting. Been in and out of therapy which is how i know this and I am a secretary for a psychiatric facility as well.
"Come on champ! Let's go watch our parents die, it's what we deserve!" The delivery on that is just awesome
I like how no matter how many times they retcon the characters to be modern, young Bruce still gets excited to see a black and white film.
A good movie js a good movie.
@@l0sts0ul89 Sure, but what kid now would ask pester their parents to watch an old black and film. Usually they take an interest when they’re older or their parents showed it to him prior.
@@ghostspider2056 eh rich kids I guess
@@l0sts0ul89 I think a handful of those would rather go for anything new that’s trending, expensive and high graphic.
@@ghostspider2056 Batman is in like his 30s or something, back then it was action stars and stuff so watching a black and white movie might not be out of the question
Mayor Joker saving the city from Batman's zombies will be the most hilarious shit ever.
Kinda reminds me of "White knight" storyline
Who's the villain now Bruce? Who's the villain!
The kind of joke that would get the world laughing.
@@fatalisblack7213 I swear Joker will make sure Gotham will never forget how Bruce started a zombie apocalypse before he could deliver their electric cars.
"When batman is no more, bruce will finally focus on that electric car"
Notice that Bruce said his Dad wanted to take him to the shareholders meeting? I think this implies that Bruce’s Dad was more business man than family man and most likely convinced by Alfred and/or his wife to take Bruce to the movies. Bruce is so focused on the death of his parents that he doesn’t remember what his parents were like.
No his parents were good people in most story. I’m pretty sure the way Bruce is remembering them is what they were actually like
@@illbadger2076 like you said. In MOST stories. This show is known for pretty much being unpredictable and flipping common DC elements around. I’m not saying that they were bad. More like unintentionally neglectful. I feel like Thomas did love Bruce, but wanted him to focus on business instead of being a normal kid. And I feel it was actually Alfred who convinced Thomas to take him to the movies and he blames himself for their deaths. He didn’t tell Bruce this because he was afraid he would lose Bruce too. This is why he allowed him to become Batman. It’s Alfred’s penance.
@@MrManga51 absolutely true.
In the telltale games his dad was a crime boss
@@alfredhinton8792 every version of Batman has own interpretations
He’s gonna bring back everyone’s parents at this rate
Looks like the villain of Season 4 will be the Black Lanterns 😏
And their little dogs too.
@@SaltySion please don´t tell me this like black thor
Looks like we got a zombie apocalypse coming up in the next episode
@@PancakemonsterFO4 you have never touched a comic have you?
Remember what Batman said in the Justice League.
"My brains not a nice place to be."
He wasn't kidding.
That was with Doctor Destiny, IIRC. Which makes me think: if somehow The Joker got into Batman's mind and vice versa the results could be interesting...
@@juhanipolvi4729 It already happened. Took place in an episode of, “The Batman.”
@@juhanipolvi4729 Joker inside Bat's mind? Done already, he was called Batman Who Laughs and he has done increeeeeeedibly evil and very messed up deeds.
(Small taste - shooting the members of the Batfamily with two SMGs except Damian whose head he totally broke and made him crazy too)
Alternative:
Batman Arkham Series. Dunno which one exactly, but i distincly remember something about Batman being poisoned and seeing illusions with Joker... And it would eventually made him Joker if he hadn't stop it.
But Arkham City maybe? Dunno, u will have to find out.
Definitely. I remember that line, it has never been more true.
“The mind me is flexible” That’s not entirely wrong, we all have dark thought, Bruce is no different in his line of work, but he strong enough to avoid temptation, which is why it’s messed up that he would revive his parents without thinking there’d be consequences.
When trauma is too great people will do horrible and/or stupid things thinking it will make it right or go away and that is why Bruce isn’t thinking straight, he’s so caught up in the thought of making things right in his own twisted way that he forgets every choice has a consequence. He wants to atone so bad that he will do anything to make that happen, his character is so incredibly well done and human that it is one of the best in DC
That glimmer of hope was too tempting, too intoxicating. An easy way to have all the pain go away. The easy way is almost never the good way though.
@@skydivided7997 But hasn’t he gone through mental training to avoid acting on those temptations, hence why Batman never work on the Lazarus pit to revive them.
@@Daktangle But hasn’t he gone through mental training to avoid acting on those temptations, hence why Batman never work on the Lazarus pit to revive them.
Bruce ain't exactly in the right head space right now, he's in somewhere dark, even for batman standards
Say what you will about this show, both good and bad, it does *new* things or at at least feels like it. It's nice having a sandbox feel where really anything can go. Feels refreshing.
Yeah. I love this show has the guts to go against the grain like this and surprisingly make it work. Joker becoming a legitimate family man who loves his step wife and kids and is now mayor; Harley drifting out of villainy and beginning to want to help people again; Bruce spiralling into his deep-seated grief from years of repressing his pain resulting in a zombie apocalypse now! It's crazy, its beautiful and I LOVE IT!!
Yeah. There are a lot of things in this that wouldn't fly at all in the canon universe, but given that this is its own world with its own history and set of rules, it's cool to see them going some interesting directions.
Well, this won't bring the DC to when JLU was in the past. But hey, this is good because at least it's awfully good in chaotic way.
@@robbieking4070 to be fair Harley going good isn’t exactly new. Just doesn’t happen all that often.
If only they weren't so horrifically causal about murder. Murder here needs to be a shocking things in this universe to really sell the world and it's themes. And this is the one place where there's a turd floating in the chef's soup.
The fact Bruce blame himself for not be able to save his parents , to this very day seen same nightmare over and over, what batman truly is isn’t Bruce but rather a little boy who scared and who watch his whole world being taking away from him. It’s bring me into tears every time I remember this fact.
Which is also, in my opinion, why Alfred goes along with Bruce. He emphasize with that little boy.
That's what joker said to him in return of the joker
@@Jonkin715 *empathize
Bruce is just Batman's costume
I have a similar problem, believe it or not. So yeah, I get it.
I love how The Joker and Bruce have essentially swapped roles at this point with Joker coming up with some genuinely good policies for Gotham while Bruce has become a crazed menace
Personally, I'm not a fan of that, but I would like to see Harley help him along the way.
Fun fact: Whispering is actually louder than both talking and talking quietly because the whisper voice creates a higher frequency which is easier to hear.
Depends on range and obstructions. Higher frequencies dissipate faster than lower ones. It's called attenuation, and is basically when sound waves are converted into other forms of energy as a result of interacting with the medium. Lower frequencies are absorbed less than high frequencies. They're also less reflective--high pitched noises will bounce off walls and be mostly constrained to the room, while low pitched ones will penetrate easily. It's why you can easily hear the bass track from your neighbor's stereo through several walls, but not know what's being said. So whispering might not help you conceal your conversation from someone 2 feet away, but it will absolutely help from across the room.
That actually explains something. Years ago, I shared an office with a guy whose girlfriend/fiancé would sometimes come in to sit and talk with him. And whenever they wanted to say something confidential/private they'd start whispering. I never actually minded them talking when I was working because I could just block it out (small value add of public education). But whenever they would start to whisper it was like it cut through everything and instantly grabbed all of my attention. Eventually I just asked them to speak normally because I only ever listened to what they were saying when they were whispering. They stopped having chats in the office after that, ah well
Bruh, whispering might give you higher frequencies of sound, but it's the amplitude that gives the volume
so murmuring is the way to go
@@Lessen0 Interpretive dance is the only true way to silently communicate
Harley finding batman's identity: "Goddammit, client-patient confidentiality!"
Joker finding batman's identity: "Where's my goddamn electric car, Bruce?!"
“He’ll make the bad man go away”
“He’ll make the BATMAN go away”
i know people are upset at how bruce became here but have to be honest this whole thing got me in tears, you just don't see bruce showing this much hidden emotion about his parents and how he blames himself everyday. i don't remember seeing a episode or even another show, showing this side to bruce and i do hope people don't think really ill of him doing this trauma can really fuck you up to the point your mind is just well reverse trauma. never want to rethink the same thing everyday just to make something that never ever gonna change, i do hope bruce heals he is human not just batman.
i think batman the animated series sort of delved into it (and mask of the phantasm?)
@@zombspideyspecial yeah, he begged his parents forgiveness because he was seriously considering just having a life and being happy. Instead of being am agent of justice.
@@zombspideyspecialYeah what the previous reply said where he twice considers not being Batman (well the first time it's when he considers giving up what would become Batman).
However the show that goes much closer is Brave And The Bold in the episode where he directly confronts Joe Chill.
To me this actually does feel like it could be the premise of an actual comic book. Not the first weird what if considering
I remember that scene at the grave in Mask of the Phantasm where he was weeping. Bruce HATES himself. He wants to die, he wants to burn. He considers himself a murderer by proxy. He wishes he'd never been born because his parents would still be alive.
I commented on a previous clip that Bruce was backsliding and having trouble dealing with the death of his parents, but I had no idea HOW MUCH Bruce was backsliding. Bruce bringing his parents back from the dead is something I never thought I'd see him do and I am excited for it. This is "Batman-Acting-Out-Of-Character" done right. The whole season, Batman has been depressed, emotional, and in denial about dealing with his childhood lifelong trauma. This is a portrayal of Batman that's rarely touched upon and I can't wait to see where the show goes with it.
The showrunners said this whole thing basically started because of Clayface telling him in episode 2 that James Gunn was making a biopic of his parents
@@dklounge7082 Nostalgia is a hell of a powerful drug, although it can f--k up some people in a lot of ways.
3:57 The way he lit up when he said “You’re back” makes him look like he reverted back to being an innocent child just for a moment.
I like how the mind Bruce essentially says batman is against killing but he definitely thinks about it sometimes.
It's so funny because not even a year ago Damian tried to do almost the same thing in the comics to bring Alfred back to life. He and Bruce are literally the same person
Like father like son
@@phoenixflambe3319 or son like father since Damian did it first.
But he didn’t commit he didn’t want Alfred to suffer from side effects from the Lazarus pit
Lazarus Pits can have some irreversible side effects and he understood that the risk was too much. His mother gave him the resin because she knew what Damián would use it for.
@@ultimatefree8637 Not quite. Damian died in the comics and Bruce moved heaven and earth to resurrect him. The man marched into Apocalypse with the Bat-fam and challenged Darkseid in order to pull it off.
“No that’s the 90s one” made me shriek
Is no one going to address just how utterly *heart wrenching* it was hearing little Bruce say "Help me..." to Harley?
Not very often you see Batman or Bruce Wayne ask someone else for help. But I thought that was a very lovely moment, where he asks Harley Quinn to help him and she gives him a hug promising to help him anyway she can. I hope in Season 4 he sits down with her for a therapy session and she can help him overcome his demons as well as King Shark too, they need a good therapist after this past season. And the scene before this where she asks for his consent to be his licensed therapist best part of this whole episode. That's the part of Harley Quinn I love the most where she can prove she can be trusted or called upon when you need help
I love how this universe really goes out of its way to showcase that Harley and Ivy aren't just supervillian sex icons, but that they're truly very smart women who both have doctorates and are masters in their fields!
Its like now i see Poison ivy as more then just a sexy plant lady or harley as joker's gf
Not once have they been what you just described even for the animated batman series which harley was created for showcased multiple sides of them from Harley's skills as a doctor to her own personal issues..aswell as ivy even showing a episode where they try to leave the villain life behind but they end up I. The same place even after getting every thing they wanted
@@ivanvalera3250 i always keep forgetting that series
yeah sure (like anyone who ever watched the original batman the animate series would say: get off your high horse), this is nothing more than queering up DC (mind you, I actually do like the relationship between harley and Ivy, considering they've been besties for ages, it sorta feels organic) at the expense of dumbing down or even outright ruining other characters. The show is still fun to watch, but the political undertone is rather a cringe element that makes it sometimes a bit... stale, if you know what I mean.
Ehh Harley's writing this season has been inconsistent
I like the symbolism in all of this: The *real* Bruce Wayne (and therefore the real Batman) is that little boy trapped in his head. Whereas the adult is neither Bruce Wayne or Batman, he's just Joe Chill in another mask, forcing that little boy to see his parents be gunned down again and again.
Dude is about to start the zombie apocalypse.
gonna get DCeased up in this b
Far worse,he’s resurrecting the true court of owls.
Just because he wanted to bring his fucking parents back
The Marthapocalypse.
Plants vs Zombies
This might honestly be my favorite episode in the series. I had to watch it twice back to back. This was an amazing look at both Bruce and Harley. The fact that Harley was able to even explore Bruce's memories was clearly because he subconsciously wanted her to. She saw a hurt, traumatized 8 y/o and decided to help him, and he clung to that. Bruce trained to protect his mind from psychic probing, and the reverse repression shows that that kinda holds true even in this continuity, even kicking everyone but Harley out of his mind. That innocent, childlike part of him wants so badly for someone to save him, that at the moment she showed the human kindness to cover his eyes and try to shield him from that pain, he held on to her. And it's not that he didn't realize the risk, or that part of him was naive. He was just hurting that badly. And the fact that Harley freaking Quinn decided that this poor kid needs therapy, and I'm going to give it to him just sent me. Because even after she found out he was Batman, you can tell, that when she looks at him, she doesn't see Batman any more, or billionaire playboy Bruce Wayne. She sees a hurting 8 y/o boy, crying in an alley.
Well, Batman: The Animated Series was better than this crap.
@@Ares99999 Batman TAS is a series that will never be matched in quality and story telling. There is no comparison. This series is not meant to be taken seriously, and is a joke series with a bit of character insight.
Batman triggering a zombie apocalypse....i never thought the writing staff would go this far.
I bet not allowing a little conalingus is what started this
@@kingkoop2281 LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
The fact that it’s the Brave & The Bold Batman doing is definitely a mindfuck
*Writer:* Do we really have to go over that dead parents thing again?
*Producer:* As part of the Batman property, we're contractually obligated to remind the audience that Batman's parents are dead
*Writer:* But we've already done that story hundreds of times across dozens of continuities by now!
*Producer:* Hm... what's the tolerance level of the audience?
*Writer:* Well, they seemed to like the Suburban Dad Joker--
*Producer:* Are there any story arcs we haven't thrown into the blender yet?
*Writer:* We have a couple of really edgy ones, but--
*Producer:* Take all of those and throw in these posts I found on Reddit. The fans are going to...well, they'll probably hate it, but the view count is going to skyrocket!
So i wasnt the only one thinking ZOMBIES
honestly this seems something straight out of the comics of bruce trying to revive his parents when he is at his breaking point, I mean the person he had felt the closest to had just told him she didnt feel the same way about him and when you are as fucked up as bruce in a world that has limitless possibilities, you would try and exploit some of those possibilities
"Let's watch our parents die, it's what we deserve!"
Damn, and here I though Joker had issues. And his backstory is "all of the above".
Yeah a lot of people in the story include most of the robins (especially Todd) dont get the reason batman doesnt kill is because he's not "above it all", he's "all of the above" in terms of issues and if he does, he'll go full fkn pyscho, Batman Who Laughs. Its exactly what fascinates the joker so much, the punchline he wants and hopes never comes.
so basically the ending of "The Cursed Child"
Imagine this is how Solomon Grundy comes back to life in this continuity?
Solomon Grundy is dead, Cyrus Gold lives again.
Except Grundy is Thomas Wayne
Or Jason Todd
Pretty sure Solomon Grundy was at the Villies
A lot of people are saying Batman woulnd't give into temptation in order to bring back his parents but... we're not dealing with Batman, we're dealing with Bruce Wayne. We've gotten far enough in Media in Batman's history to know he uses the costume as a means to "Not feel" anything when he's being his alter ego, or alternate personality. Batman has a will of steel, a skilled fighter and a tacticians mentality even when in battle. Bruce Wayne HOWEVER is very little of those things. Bruce at this point in his life has gotten to where the costume doesn't just stay a costume, it's his means to be the Symbol Batman the Hero. When he's Bruce Wayne, he's physically and mentally vulnerable because he doesn't have the mask to hide from his own face. On top of that Bruce isn't just dealing with long term trauma and guilt, he tried raising a family with his bat orphans which doesn't really go well, he almost died in the Joker's tower, was in a coma, had his body broken TWICE by Bane, went through a bad break up with Catwoman and he's realizing his age is catching up to him.
Not to mention I think he's also dealing with the fact that Joker and Harley have had more development as people and in some ways are doing more good for Gotham then he ever did and being a super hero isn't pushing down his trauma like it used to. Yes he has denied using the Lazerus pit before because it is a LITERAL DEMON HOLE that corrupts anyone that uses it with immortality. So he sees Frank and gets an idea in the midst of his midlife crisis and break up with Catwoman. This is the most human we've seen Bruce Wayne since the Animated Batman 90's show, where the show explored his trauma to a degree but never really showed him truly dealing with it. This is why i like this show, we're seeing Bruce Wayne at his most human aspect in modern media as a bonus to an awesome Harley Quinn show.
There's been lots of different retcons why the Waynes cut through the alley.
1) A cop told Alfred he couldn't park in front of the theatre.
2) The usher who would have informed Alfred got into an argument with his manager.
3) There was a medical emergency at the hospital so Thomas cut through the alley to save time.
4) “it’s a safe alley” and it’s a short cut.
5) it’s more private than the sidewalk.
6) the alley was the only way to get home.
@@legoben98productions its not retcons, its just multiverse
Honestly all of them work at once. The timeline would be this. The Usher who would've helped Alfred park the Limo got into an argument with his manager, so Alfred just tries waiting for them on the side of the road. The cop pulls him over saying that they're unable to park there, so he would need to park somewhere further away. Meanwhile, an unaware Bruce is being a happy kid, while Thomas got a notice that there was a medical emergency so they needed to rush to the hospital. Unfortunately, no Alfred, so they would need to hoof it. In Bruce's mind, he thought that he was the reason for killing his parents since he most likely went on ahead, and got caught by Joe.
Bruce still thinks it's his fault due to childhood trauma and the fact Thomas never mentioned what happened. There was a lot of things that could've happened differently, but the Bruce/Batman we know now was built off the worst possible outcome which is extremely sad.
In _Batman: the Brave and the Bold_ (same voice actor for this Batman), Bruce throws a tantrum because he didn’t get a Zorro toy on Xmas and so the parents take him to see the movie instead. Bruce can’t stand to even acknowledge Xmas as Batman in the present. Worst one of them all, imo.
Harley Quinn as Batman’s therapist is something I never thought I’d want to see
Harley finding batman's identity: "Goddammit, client-patient confidentiality!"
Joker finding batman's identity: "Where's my goddamn electric car, Bruce?!"
Bruh, that's honestly something I always wanted to see.
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become the villian" -TwoFace
Can't argue with that
Or live long enough to start a zombie apocalypse instead of getting therapy. Happens to us all, easy mistake to make.
"Come on, champ. Let's go watch our parents die."
"It's what we deserve"
I think Bruce needs a Hug. A Slap on the Head. And probably a couple of years with a Therapist.
Foreshadowing again
Harley: like I said very f u c k ed up.
@@johannesseyfried7933 That sounded a little similar to Psychonauts Boyd when he's in his Milkman persona.
"Is that the regular kind milk or the exploding kind?"
"It's fortified with what the world wants, what the world Deserves!"
😱😱😱😱
This version of Bruce Wayne actually feels more like Iron Man. Using mad science to bring back Maria and Howard sounds like something he would do.
His origin is still heartbreaking even after all these years. We gotta admit that
“C’mon champ, let’s go watch our parents die!” Gawd, the delivery on that was perfect. 😂
Gotta say, of all the directions this show was going to take, Batman kinda kicking off a zombie invasion of Gotham wasn’t one I was expecting, but one I’m DEFINITELY here for
This calls back to "Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker." In one of the most memorable scenes of that movie, the Joker expressed his disappointment when he discovered Bruce Wayne and Batman were one and the same. "Behind all the Sturm-and-Batarangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit crying for mommy and daddy!" And in this situation at least, he was right. It just goes to show that despite all the heroic feats Batman has accomplished over the years, he still at times seems like that little boy who never truly grew up and never truly moved on from his trauma.
I'm beginning to wonder if my prediction on S4 is going to come true after all. With Harley knowing Wayne's identity, most of Gotham's villains reformed or dead, and Batman possibly getting over the whole trauma thing, a Batman who retires suddenly doesn't seem like an unreasonable idea.
Honestly, if they go that route it might be the perfect excuse to bring in Red Hood aka. Jason Todd.
Batman retiring, Joker running Gotham, it's basically perfect conditions to bring him in and most likely have him as an antagonist.
@@joshrobins130 wait but joker is actually a reformed criminal too though
I don't know why but I laughed my ass off at the Zorro joke. It really shouldn't be that funny, but for some reason Bruce getting indignant over which version of the movie he was talking about, only to immediately realize that's a whole dumb tangent and drops it to keep the story moving, I dunno it felt like a naturally awkward bit of conversation and it really sold the otherwise meh joke.
Honestly the idea of Bruce seeing himself as Joe Chill, and what that means for his guilty conscionce is such an amazing concept I'm surprised Harley Quinn is the first thing I've seen use it
It also makes his “no murder” and “no guns” rules make a hell of a lot more sense. Dude is traumatized and the only reason he doesn’t take full responsibility for his parent’s murder is the fact that he wasn’t the guy holding the gun and pulling the trigger. So he spends all his time keeping himself as far away as he can from being that.
It’s not so much a code as a trauma-driven compulsion.
The idea that Bruce Wayne sees himself as responsible of their death because he was the one begging for the movie came from… Batman Forever.
This series has an excellent understanding of psychology. It's one of the things that makes it a gem. Combining complex and multifaceted characters with gory violence and hilarious humour really makes this stand out from the hundreds of other DC universes. These writers are incredible.
Doctor-patient-confidentiality cracked me up, what a genius reason not to talk about his secret identity
I really do like the slight change to Batman‘s origin. I mean after all, dead parents are Dime-A-dozen in most superhero stories and true it is tragic, but by just a small tweak, by having it be Bruce’s decision to go to the movie AND walk down crime alley, it adds just enough to make it more unique and I hope other stories add this element.
It kind of reminds of Spider-Man's origin story, tbh. It makes sense, in a way. Spider-Man and Batman are each other's counterparts, Marvel and DC-wise.
@@kshitijdesai6327 Spider - man uses humor & sarcasm as elements in crime - fighting, Batman is serious just about 24 / 7.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq True, but if you look closer, they are more alike than you think. Both of them feel responsible for the deaths of loved ones, something that was out of their control, but the guilt still remains. Both promise to be better, to be heroes because of that loss. Peter and Bruce also both lost their first loves to their worst enemy. The list can go on and on. Hell, Marvel tried to make Spider-Man like Batman with the CEO of Parker Industries comic arc.
Bruce Wayne started the Zombie Apocalypse lmao
I can't wait for the next episode. mainly because i want to see how Joker is going to be able handle Bruce's mess, oh how the tables have turned. I hope his defunding the police doesn't come back to bite him, but he's the joker and he knows how gothem is, so he must be smart enough to have something prepared.
I mean, the Gotham National Guard is probably still around, so.....
And the other heroes
Why don't you want his defund the police to bite him he fired everyone in the police if I remember correctly there's defunding and total destruction
okay but is this gonna be a day of the dead/resident evil thing where the zombies have none of their living personality and are jsut rampaging monsters, a Night of the living dead thing where the ombies have some personality but are driven to murder humans by some side effect of the ressurection or is this gonna be a thriller bark sorta thing where they just completely have their personality and jsut look fucked up?
This is what you get for spraying Frankenstein juice over the grave yard.
@oogaBooga I could see it going like , they wanna die but Bruce keeps resurrecting them and the point is by holding onto them he’s hurting them as much as he’s hurting himself , tho basic zombies probably is what we will get , but I think it would be cool if they were “alive” and wanted to die cause it’s painful but he won’t let them
Considering how this scene ended, imma say the first or second outcomes are most likely-
Maybe it'll be like Return of the Living Dead?
I suspect this is how Jason Todd comes back in the show
Honestly high light of this show,
i never been too big on jokes of this show but i love more genuine interactions when ever they happen
I know joker selfishly became mayor just to one up that one competitive mom and get his "not real " kids to participate in duolingo education program, but bruce just started a zombie apocalyse to bring his parents back, his parents who at this point is nothing more than some fresh fossils and dirt
Hench: Mister Joker, Bruce Wayne just started a Marthapocalypse.
Joker: NOOOOOOOO! Why didn't I think of that?
@@protorhinocerator142 Joker: great, there goes my electric car
I like how even tho Batman is still a weird lonely child, they still made him Batman, totally able and capable of actually being Batman. They use the fact Batman has full control over ver his mind in the plot and it makes total sense.
If everybody in the cemetery is coming back from the dead... Does this mean that all the villains that died in the show will come back too?
Ah shit. Here we go again...
If it was at Wayne manor then it could be a family cemetery so maybe his ancestors will come back.
If so Rahul Kohli gets to play some kind of zombie again.
And they will be pointing fingers! Not just at Harley or Bruce but everyone who had anything to do with them being dead and now everyone has their own ghost each to tangle with.
Unless that cemetery are for the only Wayne family members ?
Everyone who is surprised about Bruce causing a zombie apocalypses clearly forgot this is the same man who technically owns a cancer ray.
Though I was never a serial reader of Batman's various series (and thus am not entirely sure), I don't think any of the titles have ever *explicitly* explored Bruce's feelings of culpability. But the implication/understanding has always been that Bruce's entire motivation/character is built around the idea of "never again...no matter the cost." It's actually easier to believe that a man with such an overwhelming sense of guilt and remorse would plot how to kill/disable his "friends"/colleagues (just in case) because he can *never* rest or be at ease, instead of (bordering on Mary Sue) "Batman's always prepared." It reminds me of something Neil Gaiman once said: "...[H]ell is something you carry around with you. Not somewhere you go."
Bruce Wayne essentially modified Frank into a portable Lazarous Pit. I have a strong feeling Ra’s Al Ghul will possibly be making an appearance.
Bruce clearly wants to heal from his trauma, but his guilt won’t let him.
The delicious irony of Batman refusing to get help even though that's the entire reason he keeps throwing people back into Arkham
Only to break out and kill more people
Well he isn't exactly running around and killing the masses
@@l0sts0ul89 either way batman is terrible at being a hero, just take it from peacemaker he doesn't have any super villains because they and i quote
SIX FEET FUCKING UNDER
@@andrewcarlson3486 nice take bro.Did twitter give it to you?
@@andrewcarlson3486 I want to ask, are you special? Like because unless you are then no one would say this, the reason why he doesn't kill his enemies is because
1) Killing is bad
2) ITS NOT HIS JOB TO KILL CRIMMINALS
Literally how fucking dumb can one person get
It’s good to see Harley help Bruce through his issues
Kinda feels like repaying him for all the times he saved her ass while she was still paired up with the joker
Rule number 1 about raising the dead, Don’t.
Rule number 2: Seriously DON’T!!
Ras al gual I'm gonna ignore that
If you have wish granting balls then do
@@mangareader7474 lol 😂
Genie: Rule Number 3, I can't bring people back from the dead. It's not a pretty picture, _I DON'T LIKE DOIN' IT!!!_
DND chaotic neutral warlock: but given it’s a stupid ass rule, I’ve elected to ignore it
Damn, what can I say, Bruce really fell on the level of the psychos he is trying to stop, torturing a seemingly sentient creature so he can bring back his parents even when he wasn't sure if they will be in the same shape they were the night they died is something someone from his rogue gallery would do. Although I haven't watched the show yet so I hope I'm missing some context here.
stare into the abyss, and the abyss stares back stuff, it's a completely new concept for Batman
@@math3000 you blinked
Basically Bruce and Selena/Catwoman were forced by Musicman(who was hired by Alfred) to go through couples therapy.
After a song, it comes to the conclusion that Selena doesn't have intrest in a longterm commitment with Bruce.
After a couple of nights of depression and even throwing a gala for her, which Harley broke into to kidnap Bruce, Bruce is finally at his breaking point.
Thus trying to revive his parents.
This is the kind of moment where Alfred should definitely slip off and call the rest of the League or the bat family or even let Harley "escape" cause this just went from 0 to 200 like that.
I love how he felt the need to correct the Mark of Zoro thing. Makes you think that he’s just a really big fan of Zoro.
Ok it’s official this is the 2nd most unstable and insane Batman to ever exist. Guy is literally starting a zombie apocalypse to see his parents alive again. Most unstable and insane obviously goes to the Batman who laughs.
You got the time to resurrect the dead, but, "where's my electric car bruce??"
LoL, i have to say that this version of Bruce is INCREDIBLY clingy 🤣 I mean, i know that even in the comic books Batman did some pretty bad decision when it came to his parents, but this one? 😂 This is BEYOND anything i thought i would ever see 😂
Believe it or not this isn’t the first time Bruce has gone insane over his childhood
Bruce should have watched Full Metal Alchemist or night of the living dead. Resurrecting dead people never goes well.
Looks like this show is playing up that Bruce is mentally disturbed and emotionally stunted. He might accidentally be the big bad by creating an undead army and Joker's going to be Gotham's savior as Mayor? This show 😆
I think this one is the most traumatized version excluding comics.
@@oneforall_hero_deku it's a little thing called *T R A U M A*
At last, the adaptation of DCeased! Damn this show surely is unpredictable.
Hope this means we'll get zombie Freeze, Penguin and Scarecrow
Or Blackest Night, but with no lantern rings.
Too early for a zombie episode, too early!
@@БезумэВыкрут yeah we're just about to enter September, October isn't until the month after.
@@bubbee9382 Maybe they are catching up to Hungry Ghost Month.
1:06
“Okay, I got like a million questions, but mostly…. WHaAaAaAaAaAaT?”
While it was MONUMENTALLY STUPID that Bruce took Frank to his parents instead of vice versa, is it consistent with this version of his character that he'd be blinded by the possibility of finally being free from decades of pain?
Honestly, the clips in isolation show that the writers were trying to sincerely tackle the topic of Batman's psyche, of what makes him Batman. And I appreciate the effort to humanize Harley and deepen her character by showing how she reacts to those revelations.
Certainly better than what the live action films have done with her, even in The Suicide Squad. Remembering her history as a psychologist and capitalizing on that for storytelling opportunities and character exploration? I am VERY happy to see the effort.
This was a great episode on Bruce Wayne’s psyche; even tho this show is a comedy, this is some of the best analysis of Bruce Wayne
The way Ivy wondered if Frank can bring people back is so foreboding.
Okay, Bruce has completely lost his mind! His parents are brought back, yes, but what he doesn't realize is that they're zombies! And not only that, but other zombies are coming out of their respective graves, too!
Nice going, Bruce, you've created a Zombie Apocalypse!
I can see it now people are going to try to rekill the waynes and Bruce will keep interrupting them despite how dangerous they have become.
Archer: Ok do you want zombies???....Because this is how you get Zombies!!!
Bruce is so obsessed with bringing his parents back to life he didn't even think that they would be decayed skeletons.
Shits going down these next two weeks
I love the moment of hesitation before Harley answers Ivy, she really was about to go full patient confidentiality
I mean, he found a brief moment of happiness with Catwoman and then lost it. This is justified.
batman is just pretty fucked up
I wouldn't say justified. It explains his reasoning. You can be empathetic towards somebody's trauma without justifying their actions.
Oh no, those sound incel to me
@@Tezcatlipoca2000 being upset that someone doesn't reciprocate your feelings isn't incel behavior. It's what you do with that sadness and disappointment that decides that.
Bruce can't rely on Selina to be happy, that's why he became such a clingy boyfriend. He wasn't her responsibility.
This is the most character development I've seen in Batman in years.
I'm glad the 90s Zorro movie is finally getting the reconition it deserves
The sad thing is he seemed so happy reviving his parents
So this just goes to show that Batman has two shadows. One a child version of him that wants to let go of the past and two an adult version who feels like what happened to that night to his parents is his fault and he deserves to be punished for it. Both sides are his but he can't reconcile with either.
"Behind all the stern and batarangs you're just a little boy in a playsuit crying for mommy and daddy."
All I can say is oh fuck .
Damian: dad, you know Lazarus's pits exist, right?
Bruce: oh f-
If Harley could write a book on Joker and Batman’s mental states, her career as psychologist would skyrocket.
Hahahaha "lets watch our parent die" I cant 😂
You know. I applaud Harley Quinn for taking this route. I wasn't expecting this turn of events at all. This really got deep for me honestly. I am fully aware this is a comedy/parody show but at the start, I was a little iffy about Batman's character in this series. But after watching more of this season, and finding out the motive as to why Bruce kidnapped Frank had me, not only wanting more but feeling even more bad for Bruce then I already had. This was funny, but really sad. I just want to give Bruce a hug. I can't wait for season 4.
These last episodes revolving around Bruce also gave me Mask of the Phantasm vibes as well which is also good. We get to see Bruce, even when he is Batman.
You didn't just bring back your parents back to life you brought back the entire Wayne family!
If Jason Todd was buried there, I’m hoping he shows up as red hood
Here's the flaw every time people try to resurrect people: even if you resurrect the body, the soul is still gone. Naruto is the only show I know that got resurrection right.
Dragon Ball: bitch i dont even need some super rare eye or a sacrifice
What about full metal alchemist. They tried to bring back there mother but the whole resurrection process just made a monster instead and it costed them there limbs and a body
To be fair the Lazarus pit is pretty good at bringing people back to life soul included (it tends to mess up there minds sometimes though) however the Lazarus pit needs to be used relatively soon after the death, I just guessing but I'd say like a year dead tops. Bruce's parents have been dead at least 20ish years.
@@rushalias8511 my point exactly. They couldn't get it right either. He brought his brother's soul back, but not his body. So the problem was actually a reverse of what I just explained. But at least he wasn't a zombie.
@@diinouhothead9362 I don't count Dragonball. I use the term "dead" in they show as such. Because their soul isn't really gone on another realm, they just go to a different plant basically. Think about it.
I just hope Harley stays on as Bruce’s/Batman’s therapist even after everything goes back to normal
Would it at this point? I don't know.
Hearing Batman say “I’ll shoot you dead” is fucking insane
To be honest, Alfred would be against this 100%, probably either quit temporarily or physically block Bruce.
Why do I get the feeling that Batman and Joker switch personalities? Joker being normal(maybe) and Bruce becoming mad?! Wow!
Not really, the reason why Joker was compelled to face off with Batman because he felt that the Batman was the same as him. Someone who was just as crazy and unhinged as him is/was which is hard to argue against because he go around at night fighting people in a bat costume. Sure he help out other but doesn’t mean what he’s doing is healthy or sane.
White Knight inspiration. Bruce is selfish, thats his main problem.
Both are insane
Yeah. I'm the 100th liker.
@@ivangh94 selfish? nah