That's terrific. One time my buddy was the push bull (pushing scrapers) on a D9 and I was the cover bull (maintains stockpile) in a D9 also. We decided to get together and double push his scrapers. Wow, never saw bowls fill up so fast. The scraper operators were happy too. They got done early. Good job.
What a operation that most of us never ever get to see. thanks to the internet and you for posting this and keep them coming thanks you for your video.
We called them Pans but some people call the scrapers. I miss doing this, it was what I did in the Army in Vietnam and continued when I got out for 40 years. The Dozers we had also had a pony engine to start the diesel engine. Some of you older guys will remember that.
I began in Vietnam with heavy equipment with the 585th engineer company and continued on for 43 years as a bulldozer operator in a phosphate mine in Florida. Just retired
I was doing it before Sammy and then it was the 34th in Kansas and RVN. 7-e's and 830's and cranes with clam buckets. Then I got out and still pony motors around. 6's and 8's plus 631's and such. Still burn fuel when I can but few ponies. Sad day. Liked the old stuff better.
Reminds me back in 69 pushing Euclid TS14's with a D9G when I was 16(occasionally allowed when my father was servicing; my reward for helping out). My biggest responsibility was maintaining a good back slope. Usually a 2 to 1 or a 3 to 1 and as the push Cat you could sure tell who the good buggy skinners were. Thanx for the great video.
Thank you for the video. And thanks again for not adding music to it. I enjoy the sound of diesel engines at capacity and klit-klating of the cleat/grouse chains.
I notice the D11T is sporting GPS which is the perfect grade checker and no stakes to mess with, I just wish the videos were longer would make us sidewalk superintendants proud.
But its being done right! large rip tractors conditioning and prepping the material with MS rippers and 2 shanks, not burying the ripper to full depth and pulling up big floaters that will get hung up in the loading process, material is then easy to handle at the other end too.
This is an amazing operation, those operators have skills. They make it look easy. This are some tuff conditions to succeed in. Much respect for this people.
Hi Ken. It would be really cool to see a 4/6/8 hour timelapse from a tripod, of an operation like this then you could see the terrain changing throughout the video. :)
Thats right ! Production ! Dad always said if ya dont load it in its length ....draw yer pay ,dont need you . And if you blow a tire spinning ,start walking lol
Depends what material your in for starters I'm working on scrapers now and your lucky to dig 100mm without bogging down the dozer... had to be about 2.5 scraper long. Normally 2 is the accepted average to load which is about 30m anyway. there's a lot more to it than than just stick it on and pump a load in 2 seconds
Enjoyed the video, I bet the maintenance chaps had their work cut out to keep that lot welded up. With ground like that I,m not sure whether I would buy a 'High Class' property there, unless I had a ripper and excavator to do my gardening with.
I spent many years working on sites like this one...operating pretty much all of the machines found on them. Ripping is the only job I hated...I'm 71 now and my neck is totally fucked because of it...but I do miss it. As soldierofdirt81 wrote...it takes a toll!
You mean cutting edges? They are bolt on replaceable, std work with scrapers, nothing a contractor does not expect to do in the maintenance and use of a scraper.
What are they cutting away the overburden for !! Highway or buildings.. Great to see these scrapers still grafting after soooo many hours of work.. Those drivers deserve a good income too.. I was wondering whether the operators were made to wear there Seat restraints as you wouldn’t want to be flicked out of that seat.. Thanks fir such a great video 👍🏻🇬🇧
From the comments here it is clear the use of scrapers is misunderstood and like in most parts of the world people resort to the "easy way out" and think as soon as it gets a little tough bring in the trucks and excavators, scrapers have a massive apettite to move earth and if you can pick it up with a scraper it is scraper dirt, even with some rock in it, sure there is a limit but they dont have to be handled with kid gloves either and they are no where near the limit in this video. Contractors underestimate the capabilities of scrapers and look for negatives in them more so than the advantages and what there capabilities are, unless its a pure rock job there isnt very much you cant do with a scraper today in a more econimical manner than any other form of earthmoving equipment.
51s, twin c-dozer push is the cheapest way to move the material. 9 of your' favorite scrapes 660s went bye, bye at RB auctions one week ago, $15 to $23thou
I don't know who purchased them. Teir2 powered so large-medium fleet Calif contractors can't add to their fleet after Jan 2017. Small fleet can add Teir2 until Jan 2023 in Calif. Steve Varner purchased the D9L Teir1 dozer for $55thou, he's got a couple of larger jobs coming up. Take Gav!
Yep, they have to add Tier4 (new equipment) or offload Tier2 or 3 to balance their fleet averages' pollution. Tier3s can stay in fleets indefinitely along with Tier4s. No one likes the regulations, but it's necessary. Diesels get a bad rap; gasoline powered vehicles produce very tiny particles that have adverse health affects via passing into the blood stream via the lungs. When you visited Mitzel's scrapers in Temescal Canyon the typical drive time to Corona was approx 18 minutes, now that drive can exceed 40 minutes depending on the time of day. Corona north to the 60fwy 7:00-8:45am typically takes 45minutes. Progress :)
its sad they dont have scraper pull in front of dozer instead the two dozer are chasing the scrapers wearing out trackes on dozers that wears trackes out twice fast the twisting plus you can load faster by not chasing dozer
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With that much horsepower, better not be anything big down there. I watched a 651b,a quad 9 and a A/C 41 rip the bottom out of the 651 on a piece of basalt rock that didn't get blown.
2 D11 with MS rippers prepping, thats the key, like you say "basalt rock that didnt get blown" and that is the key why a floor got ripped out, not cos they were using scrapers
@@Gavin84w didn't say it was because they were using scrapers . It was because someone missed something and then there was so much horsepower that the unstoppable met the unmovable , and lost . The dirt boss got in a hurry and then got stupid . We moved almost 8 million yards of basalt on that job and that was the only real f up . We had 4 d9gs and the HD 41 ripping (when it didn't break a track) and we were changing ripper points and shank guards every 4 hours on all of the 4
That's not the kind of material I want to move. The operators do it right and let the dozers push. Minimize to chance of ripping a tire. Moving that material isn't easy no matter what method you use.
I've always hated being on a rock job in a scraper. Give me a dozer and I'm like a pig in shit lol. About 15-16 years ago, I was on a HUGE spread in Arizona running a D-10 pushing scrapers and ripping rock. They had me on a D-9N ripping when I wasn't pushing and helping in a 35 foot cut. It wasn't uncommon to have several scrapers (a mix between 631's and 651's) pull in to the cut at the same time. If and when that happened, I would jump in and push one of the 631's out to help the pushers. It usually worked out pretty good. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised the D-11's didn't take that initiative to help when it's needed.
Muy bueno el equipo de maquinaria que estan utilizando ,dos tractores D10T con punche para empujar las mototradillas651D,para este movimiento de tierra, yo operador de equipo pesado y actualmente trabajo como supervisor de obra.desde🇻🇪
Military Museum: I worked for them for years. Before and during the Rye Can years, when there wasn't a hill safe in Santa Clarita Ca. 651's, 657's and 666's
aqui no Brasil em São Paulo tem algumas empresas que ainda tem muitos moto escrepers e muitos d8 ainda como a Massoco e a Terram e muitas outras empresas
Two bulldozers pushing a scraper. Why do we have hydraulics? Why not get a track loader and use hydraulics to dig dirt and load it into a dump truck and drive off and dump it. Two bulldozers pushing a scraper struggling to scrap dirt into a box. That is like the hardest thing to do compared to a track loader. One track loader could dig and load a truck much more easily and faster and far far cheaper than that. Track loaders can push dirt like a dozer, the can load dirt like a loader, they can rip like a dozer. Scraping dirt with a blade into a box, a giant heavy 2 engined articulating design with a center pin that breaks and wears out, just the front engine torque wears that center pin out. Hydraulic pressure from a big pump can apply more force than two dozers pushing a scraper much more efficiently with far less wear and tear. Hydraulic pressure contained in a line applied to a bucket with a sharp cutting edge to dig in and up with break out force. A set of rubber tires on a big machine trying to gain traction in order to scrape dirt could never duplicate shear hydraulic pressure being applied in force. It's a huge inefficient expensive machine which replaces hydraulic force with rubber traction, not as strong or effective, push it with 2 bulldozers, maybe it will work. You could buy 6 or 7 heavy dump trucks to haul dirt cheaper and let hydraulics do the work of digging. Landfill project. Coal was 350 a ton, we need to build small powerplants near every landfill and burn trash instead of coal, that's like free fuel. Trash is 100 times cleaner than coal and its practically free. Every county could produce electricity at the landfill and become profitable and then we could pay for some sorting and recycling. Multiple small power plants so we can deal with this growing trash problem, clean burning. We are burning 5 billion tons of coal while huge mountains of trash pile up. 5 billion tons plus at 100 to 350 per ton for coal. We could save a lot of money everywhere and solve alot of these issues. LLXIIX77
hmmm i hope engineers from CAT will invite better scrapers than this , my idea is self loading vehicle with rotary loader and moving bottom for unloading dirt .....
Self loading is for light finish work not moving mass amounts of material. You use twins with push me pull you and a push cat or a single with a couple of push cats to move dirt.
I vaguely remember seeing a scraper with a vertical rotary screw for loading, but again was for finish work. That was back in the 70s and I don't remember who made it. Like a paddle scraper it would be kind of delicate.
That's terrific. One time my buddy was the push bull (pushing scrapers) on a D9 and I was the cover bull (maintains stockpile) in a D9 also. We decided to get together and double push his scrapers. Wow, never saw bowls fill up so fast. The scraper operators were happy too. They got done early. Good job.
What a operation that most of us never ever get to see. thanks to the internet and you for posting this and keep them coming thanks you for your video.
We called them Pans but some people call the scrapers. I miss doing this, it was what I did in the Army in Vietnam and continued when I got out for 40 years.
The Dozers we had also had a pony engine to start the diesel engine. Some of you older guys will remember that.
I began in Vietnam with heavy equipment with the 585th engineer company and continued on for 43 years as a bulldozer operator in a phosphate mine in Florida. Just retired
I must be one of them 'older guys'...I remember them well. :)
Bazz inBulgaria yes there are a few of us old guys still around that we can relate to
@@bazzinbulgaria4826 VERY!
I was doing it before Sammy and then it was the 34th in Kansas and RVN. 7-e's and 830's and cranes with clam buckets. Then I got out and still pony motors around. 6's and 8's plus 631's and such. Still burn fuel when I can but few ponies. Sad day. Liked the old stuff better.
Anybody know what's cooler than new Cat? Classic Cat! I love the Cat's from the 70's-early 90's! Cool to see the B models still at it.
You imagine how many hours these scrapers 651B have done..
Unbelievable
And the fuel they have drunk over the years..
My hats off to each of these operators... that material is no joke and takes a toll on man and machine!
That rocky material is a pain.
Reminds me back in 69 pushing Euclid TS14's with a D9G when I was 16(occasionally allowed when my father was servicing; my reward for helping out). My biggest responsibility was maintaining a good back slope. Usually a 2 to 1 or a 3 to 1 and as the push Cat you could sure tell who the good buggy skinners were. Thanx for the great video.
had to love those "hole diggers" or trainees for short
Thank you for the video. And thanks again for not adding music to it. I enjoy the sound of diesel engines at capacity and klit-klating of the cleat/grouse chains.
I notice the D11T is sporting GPS which is the perfect grade checker and no stakes to mess with, I just wish the videos were longer would make us sidewalk superintendants proud.
Another great video! Thanks for the good description too. I like knowing about the job and company when watching.
Thank you SCEM. Hard ground 4, 10's pushing and 2, 11's ripping that is alot of hp working just to get a job done.
But its being done right! large rip tractors conditioning and prepping the material with MS rippers and 2 shanks, not burying the ripper to full depth and pulling up big floaters that will get hung up in the loading process, material is then easy to handle at the other end too.
This is an amazing operation, those operators have skills.
They make it look easy. This are some tuff conditions to succeed in.
Much respect for this people.
Wonderful video and wonderful close up!!! Congratulations and 👏👏👏
That has to be brutal on the equipment !!!!!
Hi Ken. It would be really cool to see a 4/6/8 hour timelapse from a tripod, of an operation like this then you could see the terrain changing throughout the video. :)
Thats right ! Production ! Dad always said if ya dont load it in its length ....draw yer pay ,dont need you . And if you blow a tire spinning ,start walking lol
Your dad was a prick.
Depends what material your in for starters I'm working on scrapers now and your lucky to dig 100mm without bogging down the dozer... had to be about 2.5 scraper long. Normally 2 is the accepted average to load which is about 30m anyway. there's a lot more to it than than just stick it on and pump a load in 2 seconds
@@Puddin989 that's what she said.
Super video. Some amount of money to keep all those machines working in that tough stuff!
As old as the machine they still perform wonderfully.
Enjoyed the video, I bet the maintenance chaps had their work cut out to keep that lot welded up. With ground like that I,m not sure whether I would buy a 'High Class' property there, unless I had a ripper and excavator to do my gardening with.
Normally they dig out planters and put in good soft material so they can landscape it properly
DANG! Those dozers ripping are makin' the rocks smoke!!!!!
I spent many years working on sites like this one...operating pretty much all of the machines found on them. Ripping is the only job I hated...I'm 71 now and my neck is totally fucked because of it...but I do miss it. As soldierofdirt81 wrote...it takes a toll!
tough going, ripped or not, fire up those torches lads, you're gonna be welding some edges
You mean cutting edges? They are bolt on replaceable, std work with scrapers, nothing a contractor does not expect to do in the maintenance and use of a scraper.
Nice vid, it was hard lookin stuff to move
wow ! great and very good work ! love all that cat machine !!
The least the guy on the dozer could do is level shit out a little bit to make it more comfy for the guy on the scraper
What are they cutting away the overburden for !!
Highway or buildings..
Great to see these scrapers still grafting after soooo many hours of work..
Those drivers deserve a good income too..
I was wondering whether the operators were made to wear there Seat restraints as you wouldn’t want to be flicked out of that seat..
Thanks fir such a great video 👍🏻🇬🇧
I just love watching that kind of work
Me too @Phillip Bonner!
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The transmissions on those dozers have got to be toast after this.
From the comments here it is clear the use of scrapers is misunderstood and like in most parts of the world people resort to the "easy way out" and think as soon as it gets a little tough bring in the trucks and excavators, scrapers have a massive apettite to move earth and if you can pick it up with a scraper it is scraper dirt, even with some rock in it, sure there is a limit but they dont have to be handled with kid gloves either and they are no where near the limit in this video. Contractors underestimate the capabilities of scrapers and look for negatives in them more so than the advantages and what there capabilities are, unless its a pure rock job there isnt very much you cant do with a scraper today in a more econimical manner than any other form of earthmoving equipment.
51s, twin c-dozer push is the cheapest way to move the material. 9 of your' favorite scrapes 660s went bye, bye at RB auctions one week ago, $15 to $23thou
The boys kept me informed Stan, any idea who got them??
I don't know who purchased them. Teir2 powered so large-medium fleet Calif contractors can't add to their fleet after Jan 2017. Small fleet can add Teir2 until Jan 2023 in Calif. Steve Varner purchased the D9L Teir1 dozer for $55thou, he's got a couple of larger jobs coming up. Take Gav!
So does that mean due to ACI,s size they may have been forced to offload them??
Yep, they have to add Tier4 (new equipment) or offload Tier2 or 3 to balance their fleet averages' pollution. Tier3s can stay in fleets indefinitely along with Tier4s. No one likes the regulations, but it's necessary. Diesels get a bad rap; gasoline powered vehicles produce very tiny particles that have adverse health affects via passing into the blood stream via the lungs. When you visited Mitzel's scrapers in Temescal Canyon the typical drive time to Corona was approx 18 minutes, now that drive can exceed 40 minutes depending on the time of day. Corona north to the 60fwy 7:00-8:45am typically takes 45minutes. Progress :)
Very addictive to watch videos
its sad they dont have scraper pull in front of dozer instead the two dozer are chasing the scrapers wearing out trackes on dozers that wears trackes out twice fast the twisting plus you can load faster by not chasing dozer
Awesome content btw. There’s a video on your channel from one of my jobs
JMI or Patroit?
S Rawson heartland
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S Rawson is that heartland? I’m still at their job in Menifee doing post grading. Wonder where that job is?
Heartland in Glendora th-cam.com/video/jCTaUe9pOIk/w-d-xo.html
So Cool, dont see this in the midwest
Why the short loading window?
ma back got taken out with a broken seat suspension on a 621 😢
Boa Noite
According to my math there are 4880 collective HP operating in this video!!!!!
Mike Pendergrass: Now give us the torque rating.lol
Gotta love the chunky stuff
Great pictures more please
If I left a cutt looking like those scraper operators do I would be embarrassed
The tracks look like they have been worn slick and they and still push.
Now that is power !
tenho um sonho e não vou desistir até eu conseguir ir para os Estados Unidos pra poder trabalhar em uma terraplenagem desta eu sou mecânico de máquinas pessadas e tenho muito orgulho da minha profissão e do meu grande professor irmão Jonas aonde tu estiver professor um forte abraço de um profissional que vc colocou no mercado tudo que eu sei e agradeço primeiramente a deus e depois a você meu grande professor 🙏
Talk about moving mountains!
GREAT VIDEO!!!! Thanks
With that much horsepower, better not be anything big down there.
I watched a 651b,a quad 9 and a A/C 41 rip the bottom out of the 651 on a piece of basalt rock that didn't get blown.
2 D11 with MS rippers prepping, thats the key, like you say "basalt rock that didnt get blown" and that is the key why a floor got ripped out, not cos they were using scrapers
@@Gavin84w didn't say it was because they were using scrapers . It was because someone missed something and then there was so much horsepower that the unstoppable met the unmovable , and lost . The dirt boss got in a hurry and then got stupid . We moved almost 8 million yards of basalt on that job and that was the only real f up .
We had 4 d9gs and the HD 41 ripping (when it didn't break a track) and we were changing ripper points and shank guards every 4 hours on all of the 4
Sounds like the driller miscalculated the depth of his drill holes. I know they always figure on 3ft of sub drilling.
@@briangardiner1015
Part of the pattern didn't blow . They found the primer cord in the hole
Oh yeah , Kewitt fired the dirt boss .
That's not the kind of material I want to move. The operators do it right and let the dozers push. Minimize to chance of ripping a tire. Moving that material isn't easy no matter what method you use.
I've always hated being on a rock job in a scraper. Give me a dozer and I'm like a pig in shit lol. About 15-16 years ago, I was on a HUGE spread in Arizona running a D-10 pushing scrapers and ripping rock. They had me on a D-9N ripping when I wasn't pushing and helping in a 35 foot cut. It wasn't uncommon to have several scrapers (a mix between 631's and 651's) pull in to the cut at the same time. If and when that happened, I would jump in and push one of the 631's out to help the pushers. It usually worked out pretty good. Honestly, I'm kind of surprised the D-11's didn't take that initiative to help when it's needed.
to be honest to me it looks like its taking everything they have for the d11s to keep up ripping. just my 2 cents
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Man they are taking big bites lol..
You know you got a big pan full when a dozer has to push you through it hahaa.
How long, or short, is the service life of the cutting edge on those scrapers on this job?
all depends on the cut and the usage it could range from a daily fix to a weekly all depends like i said on the cut and the usage from the operator
Great video, what’s the cost per cubic yard to move rock like this?
not very much compared to blasting, besides you move with scrapers till you can't.
What are the white lines on the hubs for? Assume it’s an indication it’s moving?
I'm told it is too see if you are spinning the tires when loading and use to get people fired for doing it..
Yeah each tire 10-15k don’t wanna blow one just from negligence of spinning on rick
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That double 9 works
wHY ARE THEY BUILDING HOUSES IN sOUTHERN cALIF ???
Where are they going to get water from ??
The sky, like everyone else
Steal it from Norcal, where else?
what are you building.....a new subdivision????
Thanks buddy...no one like you.
The screw ball in the 10 pushing on the guy at 90 degrees....he would not make the cut.
Maybe it is a property line there
Yah looks like he is trying to take the puss out of a pusscake
Don't say that
Those guys push up to 8 hundred loads every day
What the fuck have ever did
Muy bueno el equipo de maquinaria que estan utilizando ,dos tractores D10T con punche para empujar las mototradillas651D,para este movimiento de tierra, yo operador de equipo pesado y actualmente trabajo como supervisor de obra.desde🇻🇪
Just a fucin buzz to watch shit hot love it proper job xxxxx
Pak
Raw hay pak indas
No wonder real estate is so expensive out your way
Where's the fill?
Sorry about your luck mountain but we have a little surprise for you today! YOU GONE
This is good but we gotta fuck around with legal people
Mars, permanent base, 2050
Even the water wagon in the cut
Do they really need 2 dozens to push load a scraper ?
There’s just a lot of horsepower required turning a mountain to usable road way . Did this yrs ago
1 thumbs down....what is an excavator or dumb truck "driver" even doing watching!
Maybe he is pushing into a different time zone
did anyone notice the water wagon operator isnt wearing all of his PPE
Did you also notice he wasn't watering 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I see 3 scrapers here.
there is actually 4
Do you ever see a company call C.A Ramussen (I hoped I spelled it correct)?
Military Museum: I worked for them for years. Before and during the Rye Can years, when there wasn't a hill safe in Santa Clarita Ca. 651's, 657's and 666's
C.a . Rasmussen is going strong . My dad Dave Stonehouse worked for them for over 25 plus years . Great company.💪
What’s this machine ?
Кто-то может сказать где это место???
Why are there downvotes?
To see if they are spinning there tires the dozers are only power u cut a tire u get fired
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Good
Dilbagh Singh Garder op 8930508600
great!
They ain't running a library
aqui no Brasil em São Paulo tem algumas empresas que ainda tem muitos moto escrepers e muitos d8 ainda como a Massoco e a Terram e muitas outras empresas
Por que lo luchan de a 2 si con uno tiene.
Why are using single drive scappers??????
Two dozers thats expensive very expensive. Use chain matting on the tyres and use twin drives. dar.
this means Humans can move Mounthains.
Those guys will load yah
Two bulldozers pushing a scraper. Why do we have hydraulics? Why not get a track loader and use hydraulics to dig dirt and load it into a dump truck and drive off and dump it. Two bulldozers pushing a scraper struggling to scrap dirt into a box. That is like the hardest thing to do compared to a track loader. One track loader could dig and load a truck much more easily and faster and far far cheaper than that. Track loaders can push dirt like a dozer, the can load dirt like a loader, they can rip like a dozer. Scraping dirt with a blade into a box, a giant heavy 2 engined articulating design with a center pin that breaks and wears out, just the front engine torque wears that center pin out. Hydraulic pressure from a big pump can apply more force than two dozers pushing a scraper much more efficiently with far less wear and tear. Hydraulic pressure contained in a line applied to a bucket with a sharp cutting edge to dig in and up with break out force. A set of rubber tires on a big machine trying to gain traction in order to scrape dirt could never duplicate shear hydraulic pressure being applied in force. It's a huge inefficient expensive machine which replaces hydraulic force with rubber traction, not as strong or effective, push it with 2 bulldozers, maybe it will work. You could buy 6 or 7 heavy dump trucks to haul dirt cheaper and let hydraulics do the work of digging. Landfill project. Coal was 350 a ton, we need to build small powerplants near every landfill and burn trash instead of coal, that's like free fuel. Trash is 100 times cleaner than coal and its practically free. Every county could produce electricity at the landfill and become profitable and then we could pay for some sorting and recycling. Multiple small power plants so we can deal with this growing trash problem, clean burning. We are burning 5 billion tons of coal while huge mountains of trash pile up. 5 billion tons plus at 100 to 350 per ton for coal. We could save a lot of money everywhere and solve alot of these issues. LLXIIX77
fuckin brutal that like,scorin good loads though!
equipment,, has had better days,,,,
Testament to how good it is and the use and maintenance practices of the owners
they quit making that scraper years ago.
Those scrapers are 40 plus years old, says a lot
You ain't romping in mud
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Et après on viens me dire que je pollue.....
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Don't even think
Wow..
Flat tires
👆What this khambga!?
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Ok
This material is not for scrapper, this need tnt and excavators and dump truck
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يا اخي في ضمير بالشغل
بدول العربية نص الاليات بتشوفة عاطلة
طبعا طاقم العمل مع المسؤولين هنن معطلينة بداعي السرقة من قطع الغيار
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Havnt they heard of hook and bail, two twin engine scrapers and a d9 pushin move more in a day then this waste of fuel
Riiiiiiiight, so your suggestion is scrapers with more engines (that burn fuel) and they would burn less fuel than single powers??? H,mmmm
Twins spin the tires, @ $18-22thou each blown tire pays for a lot push dozer fuel
Real boring job, pushing scrapers for days.
hmmm i hope engineers from CAT will invite better scrapers than this , my idea is self loading vehicle with rotary loader and moving bottom for unloading dirt .....
baca zterchovej so a paddle wheel scraper
They exist. And suck.
Self loading is for light finish work not moving mass amounts of material. You use twins with push me pull you and a push cat or a single with a couple of push cats to move dirt.
I vaguely remember seeing a scraper with a vertical rotary screw for loading, but again was for finish work. That was back in the 70s and I don't remember who made it. Like a paddle scraper it would be kind of delicate.
Thats an auger, pretty specialised and not many around these days but again in the right application hard to beat