don't know if you do the editing, Salvo, or someone else.. but it's top tier. Thanks for the music and movie curations, it counts for a ton of entertainment for someone that doesn't get out much.. you really put care into what you do, thanks again
1. Joe Turkel/Lloyd plays Tyrell in "Bladerunner" 2. "Here's Johnny" was adlib by Nickelson. 3. It took over 65 takes for Jack to chop through the doors. He used his voluntary firefighting skills to get through all the takes. They had to keep building doors. 4. The reason King didn't like this adaptation of the movie is because he didn't like the changes Kubrick made. This thing was remade just for King and although the remake was more in line with the book IMVHO it wasn't as good at this one. 5. Two of the changes he didn't like were Jack's decent into madness was too rapid, and Wendy wasn't such a patsy in the book. 6. Shelley Duval 😇said making this film was the worst thing she ever experienced in her life. She said she would never do it again. 7. Jack Nicholson and Scatman worked together in "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest". 8. The real villain here is the hotel itself. 9. Watch Dr. Sleep. Danny is an adult and many of the loose ends will be cleared up. TUESDAY!😲
The book and the film are quite different, yes. But, both are exceptional. I have no trouble accepting that Kubrick took liberties with King's story, when the result is this absolute masterpiece. And Sal, I agree, you did a great job with the editing here. Kudos to Kubrick, kudos to King, kudos to Sal!
There’s a great documentary titled Room 237 where there’s lots of fascinating discussion about this movie. Such a classic… saw it in the theater when I was 11.
Hey Salvo , in answer to your question about the hotel’s location - the exterior filming was done at Mt Hood’s ski lodge in Oregon called the Timberline Lodge, while the interior was a studio designed after the famous hotel in Yosemite Valley, The Ahwanhee Lodge. Pretty cool for me since I’ve been to both !
@@sixtiesfreak4858 YES. Most of the films were shot in England. Only the long shots were made in the US; closer external shots, including the maze, were shot at Elstree Studios in London. Kubrick refused to fly.
The really crazy part of this movie is, that Jack is arguably the protagonist, and the hotel is the actual villain. You can see him trying to fight it in several places, but eventually, he succumbs. It's kind of like "A Streetcar Named Desire," where you're meant to think, early on, that Blanche is supposed to be the heroine.
To answer your question: the comment about Jack "always being the caretaker" was taken from the book and slapped kind of haphazardly into the movie to justify the ending. In the book, the evil at the heart of the Overlook Hotel had been toying with Jack from the first time he went there by making him feel at home there. It's never stated outright, but Jack had enough of the shine to make him a decent writer and a pretty good teacher... when he wasn't drowning himself in alcohol. The cook was correct that most people weren't in any danger from the evil in the Overlook, but every person who died there who had even a little shine became fuel for growing the evil there. The Overlook used Jack's little bit of shine to worm its way in his head in order to get him to kill Danny there... because Danny's shine was big enough to make the evil there very powerful indeed. So the Overlook was convincing Jack that he and his family had belonged there all along as a way to lead Jack to kill them. The book is very good and definitely worth reading - or listening to during a trip or daily commute. But it will haunt you once the sun goes down, so if you get scared easily, you probably shouldn't risk it.
It wasn’t and you’re a dunce. Stanley Kubrick never just “puts stuff in” it’s deliberate, the ending shows him as the caretaker, because the hotel has always had him, he’s always been apart of the place.. this is him returning and the hotel using him again. Stop reading crappy Stephen king, snd watch the film properly, as a stand alone masterpiece.
There was a sequel to "The Shining" (1980) called "Doctor Sleep" (2019). Warner Bros. insisted that it be a follow-up to the Kubrick film, and NOT the original book. It therefore explains things left unexplained in the Kubrick film, and follows Danny as an adult. King wrote the novel "Doctor Sleep," but it followed the events of the original book, not the film.
One of my favorite horror movies. Just a great piece of cinema, thriller or not. So much about it amazes me and impresses me--- particularly the fact that every interior room of the hotel that we see was created for the film. The exterior shots were done on location, but Mr. Kubrick had all those hallways and rooms built. Just imagine. They had to light the big room with those huge windows to make it look like outside was sunny and bright. Then, after the movie wrapped, I assume the sets were torn down (ugh, that kills me, LOL). Also, for the seemingly endless pages of manuscript that Wendy discovers, Kubrick and his secretaries typed those whenever time would allow them to during the making of the movie. That is a scary scene to me because she really knows how insane her husband has become, and that he is way beyond help. There are horror stories about Stanley Kubrick's treatment of the cast, and his perfectionism. It is astonishing to learn that he made the little boy Danny Lloyd and Scatman Crothers (Mr. Halloran) do their scene together over _100 times._ You do not do that to a kid, to an older gent, or to anyone. Crazy. I do wonder if young people today get some of the movie's references from the past, like "Here's Johnny!!" and "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin" (do kids get told fairy tales like _The Three Little Pigs_ these days? I am not sure). But this is just my mind wandering. The Steadicam, a device that I believe was fairly new in 1980, adds so much to the whole experience, smoothly moving throughout the space of The Overlook Hotel. How cool that a man could carry this thing around with him and it would not shake or jerk around as it captures footage. Love that. It gives scenes featuring Danny on the Big Wheel toy such a sense of intimacy. Some of the scenes in The Shining, for me, are almost mesmerizing. The red bathroom sequence with Delbert Grady (called Charles Grady by the hotel manager early in the film) is wonderful. Just two people talking, but it really has a strong effect. Chilling, especially when Grady says "corrected". The Shining belongs in an elite pantheon of spooky gems, along with Alien, Jaws, The Thing, Psycho and The Exorcist. Thanks for sharing your first viewing. I love that your intuition was brewing, and you knew that Jack Torrance somehow already had a history there. Not a lot of people hone in on that notion when they see this movie.
@@torbjornkvist It's NOT unrelated, it's DANNY'S continuation story. If you don't like it, that's great, but don't try to dictate what other people watch and enjoy.
Do you know the first time I ever became aware of him was his reaction to The exorcist 😮😮😮❤and I'm so in love with this channel I couldn't wait for him to finally do this
🔴Salvo it's KELLI I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR YOU TO DO THIS I'M SO EXCITED I'M WATCHING THIS NOW🔴🔴🔴 I want to recommend The bad seed. From 1956 I'm not kidding. Not enough people remember the impact of that movie it's like psycho
YES but I HOPE if he does it, that he makes sure it is the 1956 version starring Patty McCormick. The remake was not good, and it was switched to a boy, and his dad, instead of a girl and her mother. Patty McCormick was SO MUCH CREEPIER as the girl, than the boy in the remake.
I love the less is more approach. Lots of reacters talk way too much instead of actually watching the movie (which is probably a nervous reaction to being creeped the fuck out). But the tension in your face said volumes.
Doctor Sleep is the sequel, following Danny as an adult. The book isn't a patch on The Shining so i haven't seen the movie, yet. The Shining was much parodied, particularly in The Simpsons - Treehouse of Horror V.
Tony saves the day in this film. He appeared in Danny's mouth (MOUTH) from the moment his father, Jack, started to sexually abuse his son. Tony warns about the hotel. Tony takes over Danny after Jack attacks him in room 237 (the rotten lady is Jack's monster). Tony opens the pantry for Jack. Tony lures Mr. Hallorann to the hotel to get the snowcat (note that he never warns Hallorann about Jack through "shining"). Tony lures Jack out into the maze where he kills him.
I’m only 9 minutes in and I’m SO entertained! 😂 your reactions are great and hilarious in the best ‘Everyman’ way: everyone has basically the same reactions at the same times- “Wait - what?!” 😆 I saw this when brand new in the theaters. It’s such great fun: really is a lifetime fave. After this, you’ll get a kick out of the documentary “Room 237” on the making of, but mostly the hidden symbols and meanings -Kubrick was intellectual enough that they’re all totally plausible. Also: the 40 years later sequel “Dr. Sleep” with Ewan McGregor is surprisingly very good too🤘🏽
Scariest Tuesday Ever! Very astute when you caught Jack Nicholson acting familiar with the Hotel in the beginning. Nicholson is a legend among actors. He can portray so many expressions and emotions. You are the first reactor I have seen that caught Nicholson visually expressing his comfort with the Hotel. Kubrick's directing and Jack Nicholson's acting are the stand outs for me. The other actors did a great job as well. My take is the Hotel is evil and collects souls. Jack Torrance was a reincarnated soul from the Caretaker back in the 1921 picture. He was compelled to return to the Hotel, bringing his family as victims with him. His son Danny was powerful with 'The Shining'. Jack also had Shining, but to a lesser extent. It was happy it got the Cook plus getting Jack back - but the Hotel really wanted Danny's soul most of all because of his strength in Shining.
The way I understood it was the "shining" is like an esp where those that have it can relate to each other without talking, like the cook told Danny in the beginning. That's how the cook knew to go to them, he "read" Danny when Danny was shaking & his eyes were rolling back. I think Danny's imaginary friend was just a tool to help Danny cope with what was happening around him. Many times too impressionable people (mostly children) can see ghosts more often than adults. That helped push Tony into the forefront. But when Jack whacked the cook & Danny saw that, it kicked Danny into fight or flight mode, when he ran into the maze & began using his head to get out. Jack Nicholson did an amazing job in this movie. I agree with you that he was there in the past, and returned as a demon ghost "shining" where he lost his mind all over again to sort of "feed" that shining more. Remember too Jack already knew the bartenders name was Lloyd bc Lloyd never told him his name. Anywho it's a twisted movie but very good. Of course u may not agree with and/or see things the way I've explained them here. Like u said, it's open for viewer interpretations. Great reactions Sal & good editing for time as well. Enjoy the rest of ur wknd. Peace out🙂👍🏼
Another psychological thriller I think you'll like and you don't have to wait for Halloween, is The Dead Zone starring Christopher Walken. Also by Stephen King. It won many awards in the Sci-Fi and Horror category. My favorite thriller and King book as well. Hello from sunny Florida 🌞🌴
Kubrick tormented Shelly Duvall during filming because he wanted her to be highly emotional and he even told the crew to never comfort her when she was crying and she said that she had days where she cried for 24 hours and would lose her voice from filming scenes over and over like the stair scene which was filmed 125 times. People think doing this movie triggered her mental health issues that eventually caused her to walk away from her successful movie career and she lived in poverty till her death. Scatman Cruthers initially turned the role off Dick down at first because he heard about Kubricks habit of filming scenes over and over and he didn't think he was physically up too it at his age but Jack Nicholson went to Kubrick and got him to agree to a 10 take limit for Scatmans scenes Someone people think that Kurbick left a lot of clues in this movie that prove that he helped the U.S government fake the moon landing by directing it for them, they point to things like Danny's Apollo 11 sweater and a poster in the games room at the beginning and there is a documentary about it here in TH-cam.
Abuse piles upon abuse, and it stays in people. This film puts on a place. The land of the hotel was ripped from people; lots of people committed atrocities based on privilege over the years. Some places have a shine to them, like Mr. Halloran said.
There are two Jacks in the movie. Green Jack is the writer and Red Jack is the character being written. Notice how the second time Jack meets the bartender how the money he has is torn on one corner? His money was no good because he already sold his soul to the hotel for a drink. And the bear scene at the end is letting Wendy know Jack was molesting Danny. This is what caused Danny to start talking to Tony. When the doctor examines Danny at the beginning he is in his undies next to a bear pillow. When Jack was in the lobby awaiting his interview he was reading a Playgirl magazine and one of the articles was about incest.
Here's a proper synopsis with no spoilers: "When a family with an unusually gifted young boy agrees to be caretakers of a mountain hotel, they soon find they are beset by bizarre and strange occurrences that drive them to the edge of madness and murder."
I wonder if you were younger than I 😉 I was 26 and saw it new in the theaters, felt the “horror” was a tad lightweight - more of a psychological thriller. However years later I watched it with my son, I thought age 12 would be fine but it scared the HELL out of him! 😱 -I realized later, duh, for kids it’s not the horror: it’s the idea that your father could suddenly without explanation lose his fkg mind and want to murder you (!) So: not for kids! 🙄😬
Unless you had seen The Exorcist in the 70s, which is really in a class of its own regarding shock value in a mainstream movie relative to its release date.
TheJjack of today is the reincarnation of the Jack of 1921 just like Charles Grady was the reincarnation of Delbert Grady. All those persons in the movie apart the family are ghosts.
An insightful and intelligent reaction to a complex classic film. After watching this you should watch Mike Flanagan's take on "Haunting of Hill House" and compare and contrast it with Kubrick's "The Shining." Stephen King's "The Shining" obviously was influenced by Shirley Jackson's novel "Haunting of Hill House." And Flanagan's "Hill House" tv-series is indebted to Kubrick's vision of "The Shining." So, a lot of cross-pollination happening. Although I don't often subscribe to his themes, I do recognize Kubrick as a great filmmaker, and "The Shining" (TS) is certainly a masterpiece of cinema. I like it very much even though I'm not a fan of Stephen King or his books. This must be due solely to Kubrick. Well, let's also give credit to the actors and the production crew, too. As great as Nicholson and Duvall were in the film, that little boy, Danny Lloyd, really made the movie for me. I think he was five when he started filming TS. For a child that age, he was just outstanding. He himself came up with the finger puppet for Tony, his alter ego. Kudos, also, to Philip Stone and Joe Turkel for being quietly sinister and menacing. I don't want to forget good-guy Scatman Crothers, either. Well-done Scatman. Then there's the Overlook. Not only is it alive, but it is the personification of evil. TS has all the Kubrick touches. All those long hallway and hedge maze shots are one-point-perspective. That's a Kubrick trademark. Also, don't some of those nighttime hedge maze shots remind you of HAL's "eye" in 2001 a bit? They do me. Another characteristic of Kubrick is his focus on intense person-to-person interactions. Yeah, TS has just a little bit of that. By the way, isn't it weird HAL in 2001 acts like a person, and the people act like computers/robots? Those long tracking-shots as people move about the hotel are another Kubrick trait. The musical score as an integral part of the narrative of TS is also textbook Kubrick. Kubrick was a perfectionist, and that is reflected in his films. For example, background is as significant as foreground. Why does Jack's typewriter change color? Is it because Jack has been transformed? Oh, "All work and no play" goes back to at least 1659. It didn't originate with TS although it certainly fits. Why do bits of the hotel, like the furniture, for example, appear, disappear or move about? Is it because the hotel is alive? The answer is yes by the way. It's definitely not due to continuity problems. Finally, Kubrick always forces the viewer to think about and dissect his films. That certainly happens in TS. As a result, we and Kubrick share in a common creative impulse when watching TS. The film becomes a living thing. Here are a few of the other things I've noticed about TS. The film is replete with mirrors. They're everywhere. Watch how they affect Jack. Are they how the hotel projects its power? A portal of sorts? Do they also absorb power? Are they its eyes as well? Likewise, there are mazes everywhere. There's the obvious hedge maze, but the hotel itself is a maze, and so is the hallway carpet. Early on, Wendy remarks on the need for breadcrumbs, a reference to Hansel and Gretel and the maze-like quality of the hotel. TS is a variation of Theseus and the Minotaur with Danny as Theseus, Tony as Ariadne etc. Wendy also says the hotel is like a ghostship. The hotel feeds off Danny and Jack's shining power and gets more powerful as time passes. The hotel wants Danny dead so it can absorb him and his power. Did you notice all the knives pointed at Danny's head on several occasions in the film? When Hallorann and Danny are talking in the kitchen bits of the conversation were telepathic. Numbers seem to come up a lot in the film. For example, Danny wears a shirt with 42 on the sleeve, the tv with no power cord is showing "Summer of 42," and room 237 is 2x3x7=42. I think Kubrick's wife said "Summer of 42" was one of his favourite movies along with "The Bank Dick." The latter is a great movie with W. C. Fields. I love it when Danny asks Jack if he feels bad. That can be taken two ways as in do you feel evil or do you feel unwell. And, of course, Jack repeats the girls saying forever and ever, meaning I want to join with the hotel in death. Jack does, of course, sell his soul for a drink. Is that why Lloyd the bartender won't take his money? Jack's already paid in full? The people and things Danny and Jack see are real, but only people with shining can see them at first. When Jack returns to the ballroom where the 1920s party is going on, a woman walks by him with a bloody handprint on her backside. This is about the time the advocaat is spilled on him. Jack also wipes some advocaat on Grady's back. In the bathroom scene, it's clear Grady's girls also had "the shine" and wanted to destroy the hotel, but they were killed instead and absorbed. Grady himself, probably like Jack, also had "the shine." In the conversation between Jack and Grady, Grady switches between Grady and the entity of the hotel. Jack may also switch with the "caretaker." When Jack and Wendy are being shown their apartment, Jack eyes the two departing young ladies. A sign of his lechery? Ditto the girlie magazine he's reading in the lobby early on. He definitely has a wandering eye. Even early on, he doesn't seem to hold Wendy in high regard. When Jack enters room 237, the carpet there is obviously suggestive of the sex act. Very phallic etc. Sex, in one way or other, features in many Kubrick films. Room 237 is the heart of the hotel. The nude woman represents the hotel seducing Jack. The heartbeat we hear is the hotel's and signals the hotel's malevolent activity and increasing power. We hear it overtly later in the film but weaker earlier when Danny is riding the trike on/off the carpet and when Jack is bouncing the ball. The high-pitched tone indicates "shining" is happening. So, Jack clearly shines, too. He's one of those who doesn't realize he has it. Jack several times in the film exhibits the Kubrick glare or stare, a shot of a man glowering up at the camera from beneath lowered brows, an indicator of danger or madness. You see it in "Full Metal Jacket." And I think HAL in 2001 also shows it. Doesn't HAL's red pupil change size? When Jack goes on his rant about his obligations to the hotel before Wendy conks him, he's not talking about Ullmann and co. He's talking about "the hotel," the thing that's alive. That's who he's made the contract and sold his soul to. Remember Lloyd the bartender's ominous hotel remarks. REDRUM is MURDER backwards, and it signifies anti-murder. It's a totem that protects against murder. That's why Danny writes it on the bathroom door. Jack can batter the door, but he won't get in. Danny is also warning Wendy and arming her as a result of his REDRUM recital. The photos are part of the hotel like the typewriter and furniture. When Jack dies, he's absorbed by the hotel and winds up in the 1920s photo. Towards the end, the hotel's evil spirit, the caretaker, may have abandoned Jack to die in the maze. He did fail in his task. That ball in the photo was the same one where the advocaat was spilled. So, he was there in 1921 and he wasn't. Kubrick deleted a final scene from TS. Wendy was in hospital and Ullman was visiting. He told her all was normal at the hotel. No Jack. No Hallorann? I've watched several reactions to TS, and I'm amazed at some of the observations. Got some beefs. A lot of people don't make a connection between Danny's first vision of the blood elevator, which signifies all the death at the hotel, and his passing out. They disassociate these two events when clearly they go together as the image of Danny's horrified face shows. From the get-go, it's clear Danny can see past events and future events. He knows Jack got the job and is going to call Wendy. He knows he doesn't want them to go to the hotel. He knows the hotel signifies danger. Why don't people notice that Danny's shirt and jumper are torn when he come to the Colorado Lounge after being strangled? Danny's clearly in shock, too. When Danny is foaming at the mouth and Hallorann is having his mini-fit, Danny is clearly communicating with Hallorann there is danger, come and help. How can Wendy be so sound asleep before Danny wakes her? Come on, the poor woman has been on edge for weeks. She hasn't been sleeping well. Now that she's locked crazy Jack up, she literally passes out, thinking they're safe. After Danny slides down from the bathroom window, why are people surprised he comes back into the hotel? It's freakin' cold outside. Do you live at the equator or something? After Jack kills Hallorann and Danny screams, why are people surprised when Danny bolts his hiding place? It's not a hiding place anymore, Jack knows where he is. Anyway, the hotel will lead him to Danny. Danny runs outside because he's actually luring Jack into the maze to meet his fate. Danny is the hero of TS, he's Theseus, who killed the monster in the maze.
Stephen King did not like this film. The reason was that Kubrick did not follow his "lead." King did not understand filmmaking, and Kubrick was an extremely independent artist. The film THE SHINING is Kubrick's and only Kubrick's.
Never occurred to me before that there are parallels with Kubrick’s 2001: Space Odyssey from just 12 years earlier. >> 2 (or 3) people totally isolated in a massive empty structure, mostly just to maintain & keep it running. There’s an omniscient, unsettling, sinister presence emanating from the structure itself. In 2001 it’s the AI computer HAL of course, in Shining it FEELS like the hotel has its own ‘consciousness’ showing humans images from its past, manipulating them to do things it ‘wants’ … even prompting Grady to let Jack out of the pantry. (I know fans dispute that part, I didn’t read the book. Personally I feel movies are their own entity and have their own needs and sensibility: they are NOT mere illustrations of books) >> In the end the ‘structure’, the entity, turns on the humans but is not entirely successful ✊🏽
The big trick with THE SHINING is the deliberate lack of logic and inconsistent plotlines. All that to unsettle you as the audience. Kubrick made this film for commercial reasons, to save his economy after the tanking of BARRY LYNDON. He told his closest coworkers, "Let's make a horror movie no one will forget." So he did, from the first second to the last, Kubrick uses every film trick in the book to make you uncomfortable. It's a masterpiece.
i been looking forward to this reaction i knew you would enjoy it, just like cuckoos nest my 2 fave films of all time both masterpieces..........how you picked up on jack be like he knows whats happening and whats coming etc etc was impressive.........ive always felt he was a reincarnation repeated several times until the chain was broken
Jack Nicholson is THE PERFECT crazy person. Watch some of his other movies and you'll see, he always plays the perfect crazy guy. The movie is very good, so is the book. I never cared for the 90's Stephen King movie though, I always liked this movie better. Doctor Sleep is a great book and movie to watch as well. Its the sequel to The Shinning. Poor Shelley Duvall was put through hell by the director during filming though. I think some of her fear was real during this. The Overlook hotel is based off a real hotel called The Stanley located in Colorado.
Shelly Duvall's despair was very real. I watched a documentary of the making of the movie as well as having read comments from both Jack and Shelly. The director pretty much tortured Shelly to keep her nerves on edge. Jack even commented on hard the team was on Shelly and how much it upset her but it paid off.
NO. Shelly Duvall denied this 100 percent. It was a tough shoot, no question about it, but she knew what she was doing. She was aware that Kubrick wanted her frail demeanor, the fact that he knew that she spent time at a psychiatric clinic. Shelley Duvall battled with her mental health all her life.
I saw this with my parents at age 9. My mom tried to cover my eyes during the axe 🪓 scene and sound of the door being hacked and Wendy’s screaming was drilled into my head forever and ever. BTW, I’m am currently in my 5th month of sobriety myself.
I saw this film in the theatre back in the mid-80's, when they showed it again for a brief period of time. Apparently by popular demand, as the entire theatre was packed - so packed in fact that I had to sit in the aisle (something I'd agreed to when buying the ticket). I bet that the fire department wouldn't have been impressed... 😲 One thing that really stayed with me was the audio. I could physically feel the audio, one example being when Danny rides his tricycle. Whenever the tricycle crossed the bare floor, the rumbling sound caused the theatre floor to vibrate. Then it went quiet as Danny hit the carpet, and then rumbling vibrations again, and so on. For some reason, that felt really unnerving and I wouldn't be surprised if this was Kubrick's very intention. Then we've got Wendy Carlos' very unsettling soundtrack, who also created the music for Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange". Thanks for another great reaction/commentary! Oh, and as others have noted - the editing is great, probably the best I've seen in any reaction to "The Shining"!
Oh shit I totally forgot that was Wendy Carlos!😮 First ‘classical’ album I ever bought was her “Switched on Bach” 😁 (As a movie music sidebar😉 on Saturday I’m attending an even of Morricone’s music)♥️
Definitely check out Doctor Sleep. It “fixes” the problems that Stephen King didn’t like about Kubrick’s interpretation of the novel, and in my opinion it’s a sequel that is just a hair shy of being as good as the original.
Danny is the one who let Jack out of the pantry. He was always watching Roadrunner outsmart Coyote and when we see him "hiding" in the metal cart in the hallway he bravely jumps out - right in front of Jack... allowing him to give chase. Danny deliberately lured Jack into the maze and defeated him. Nobody ever gives the kid the credit he deserves.
Its not a criticism of you in particular, but I feel that everyone takes Jack Nicholsons performance at face value. …pun intended- Jack looks the way he looks, which appears sinister. If you want insight into his acting style you could watch some of his other films- hes even in a romance film with Helen Hunt. He has unsettling features, but often is more complex than he seems. Knowing the book gives you more insight into the character and what certain actions or moments are supposed to mean- although Kubricks translation of the book into film is quite different, placing most of the blame on Jacks character as opposed to supernatural forces like the Overlook.
Nice. I loved the book, and I love the movie, though they're different. But this movie is the definition of horror par excellence. A study in how to develop tension. No need for over the top slasher style ridiculousness. We're forced to watch the descent of a man seduced by evil, and come along for the ride. Utter genius. People rave about the 'sequel 'Doctor Sleep' which, to be fair, is a brilliant film in its own right, but it lacks the taught stress this one induces. Magic. p.s. People should never read a synopsis before watching a movie. I wasn't even aware that streaming services do such an utterly stupid thing as to provide one but, I guess so. sigh
To be honest, the book is much scarier to me. The atmosphere created by Stephen King is incredible. Kubrick was always trying too hard to be intense, Stephen King hated this movie, and while still like it, I can see why he didn't. Also I heard that Kubrick and Nicholson tormented Shelley Duvall during filming to get her into an actual state of exhaustion, so that she didn't really have to act towards the end, it was authentic emotion. Kind of takes the fun out of it for me. ✌❤
I liked the book, but Kubrick is one of the best directors of all time, and this is one of the best movies of all time. I didn't find the book scarier. I'm more afraid of people, anger, isolation, and madness. I don't believe in ghosts, so i agree. with Kubrick here. And those allegations about Shelly are long debunked and overblown, by her btw, you can google it pretty easily
The book is about a loving but troubled family who end up in an evil place full of twisted, wicked ghosts, and in the end the evil of the place takes over the father in order to get him to kill his family and himself in order to add the power of Danny's shine to the rest of its evil power. Book Jack was a troubled alcoholic who was so horrified at hurting his son that he finally quit drinking... which really made him more susceptible to the influence of the Overlook's evil because it magnified his anger. The movie is about a really creepy dad who is perpetually angry at his family and the world in general, and the Overlook just gives him the little push he needed to slide into complete murderous insanity, bringing his anxiety laden wife and psychic son along for the ride. Both of them came from the same basic ideas, but they're definitely two very different takes on that idea - and I prefer the book, too. Although, I did enjoy how Mike Flanagan melded both of them in a fantastic way in the sequel movie Doctor Sleep.
those are sensationalized rumors. Duvall said it was a grueling shoot but she never claimed to be abused and she defended Kubrick consistently for pretty much the rest of her life.
This movie actually drove Shelley Duvall nuts. Kubrick was a great director, but he might have been a little too rough on Shelley- working her into a state of terror for the realism of the part. Maybe that was the only way. It's debatable, like everything. It was too much for the poor girl. I'm speculating, as all of us are with this movie, but I think everything was a manifestation or illusion created by the Indian spirits in the hotel, which was built over an Indian burial ground, combined with Jack's memories of his past life there. The hotel's spirits began to inhabit Jack. In the gold ballroom party scene, Jack continued having flashes of his past life there from 1921. He'd been the caretaker there. In the restroom Delbert Grady was a projection from Jack's memory of his past life there. Having been the caretaker there in 1921, it was like returning home. Delbert Grady was there as a waiter in 1921, and Charles was the possessed caretaker that killed his wife and kids much later, in 1970. Jack was in Denver, then. Delbert claimed he did the evil deed, but there was a link between the Grady's, I think. It might have been Charles coming through Delbert when he said that, as Jack said he'd seen his photo in the papers.
Stanley Kubrick absolutely tortured Shelly Duval during the filming of this film and she was actually horrified. Some scenes had over 100 takes which was something that Kubrick was notorious through his career.
I agree: years ago I read Marathon Man and it completely ruined an excellent movie for me! Never again 😉 It’s much better to come into a movie knowing nothing: read the book after -I’ve done that a few times since. Btw a brilliant fun short book is A Clockwork Orange 😎
Domestic violence is underscored in this movie. The pervading fear of powerlessness
@16:16 In your defense, Tuesday is a very scary day.
"He made that whole trip just to get one-tapped." 🤣
Danny: Daniel ANTHONY Torrence : A same person. Tony. He just has the Shining. Telepathy.
don't know if you do the editing, Salvo, or someone else.. but it's top tier. Thanks for the music and movie curations, it counts for a ton of entertainment for someone that doesn't get out much.. you really put care into what you do, thanks again
The editing is good. I'd love to know what programs he uses to record and edit his videos. That picture in picture circle is a nice touch.
great reaction Salvo....i remember when i first saw this movie...scared the crap outta me...the music is just as eerie. 😮
1. Joe Turkel/Lloyd plays Tyrell in "Bladerunner"
2. "Here's Johnny" was adlib by Nickelson.
3. It took over 65 takes for Jack to chop through the doors. He used his voluntary firefighting skills to get through all the takes. They had to keep building doors.
4. The reason King didn't like this adaptation of the movie is because he didn't like the changes Kubrick made. This thing was remade just for King and although the remake was more in line with the book IMVHO it wasn't as good at this one.
5. Two of the changes he didn't like were Jack's decent into madness was too rapid, and Wendy wasn't such a patsy in the book.
6. Shelley Duval 😇said making this film was the worst thing she ever experienced in her life. She said she would never do it again.
7. Jack Nicholson and Scatman worked together in "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest".
8. The real villain here is the hotel itself.
9. Watch Dr. Sleep. Danny is an adult and many of the loose ends will be cleared up.
TUESDAY!😲
This movie scared me so bad at 13 in the 80s..watching with friends at a halloween party! Our parents had no idea what it was about!! LOL
The actual Hotel/Lodge is located in Estes Park, Colorado. Elevation 7,522 ft.
"Great, now there's a ghost in the maze." 🤣About wet myself!!
The book and the film are quite different, yes. But, both are exceptional. I have no trouble accepting that Kubrick took liberties with King's story, when the result is this absolute masterpiece. And Sal, I agree, you did a great job with the editing here. Kudos to Kubrick, kudos to King, kudos to Sal!
No, the book is garbage with a bad ending and no character development. It’s for low IQs.
There’s a great documentary titled Room 237 where there’s lots of fascinating discussion about this movie. Such a classic… saw it in the theater when I was 11.
Stanley Kubrick's 2001 Space Odissey,Full Metal Jacket and Dr Strangelove are must watch.
and A Clockwork Orange and Paths of Glory
A timeless Masterpiece!
Even with all the creepy facial movements Jack uses I think the best look is after he takes the first drink. That is a man possessed.
Hey Salvo , in answer to your question about the hotel’s location - the exterior filming was done at Mt Hood’s ski lodge in Oregon called the Timberline Lodge, while the interior was a studio designed after the famous hotel in Yosemite Valley, The Ahwanhee Lodge. Pretty cool for me since I’ve been to both !
That's really cool.
To add to your comment, the studio was at Ellstree Studios in the UK.
@@sixtiesfreak4858 YES. Most of the films were shot in England. Only the long shots were made in the US; closer external shots, including the maze, were shot at Elstree Studios in London. Kubrick refused to fly.
TUESDAY shocks people almost as much as Ben Gardner does in Jaws.
I sh*t my pants at TUESDAY on my first viewing.
figuratively.
@@JosephMan485 lol
For a second I thought YOU had the Shining when I heard you say that it seemed Jack had been there before 😳😮
Very possible, he is very sensitive to the details. That's why I sub, anyway.
The really crazy part of this movie is, that Jack is arguably the protagonist, and the hotel is the actual villain.
You can see him trying to fight it in several places, but eventually, he succumbs.
It's kind of like "A Streetcar Named Desire," where you're meant to think, early on, that Blanche is supposed to be the heroine.
To answer your question: the comment about Jack "always being the caretaker" was taken from the book and slapped kind of haphazardly into the movie to justify the ending.
In the book, the evil at the heart of the Overlook Hotel had been toying with Jack from the first time he went there by making him feel at home there. It's never stated outright, but Jack had enough of the shine to make him a decent writer and a pretty good teacher... when he wasn't drowning himself in alcohol. The cook was correct that most people weren't in any danger from the evil in the Overlook, but every person who died there who had even a little shine became fuel for growing the evil there. The Overlook used Jack's little bit of shine to worm its way in his head in order to get him to kill Danny there... because Danny's shine was big enough to make the evil there very powerful indeed. So the Overlook was convincing Jack that he and his family had belonged there all along as a way to lead Jack to kill them.
The book is very good and definitely worth reading - or listening to during a trip or daily commute. But it will haunt you once the sun goes down, so if you get scared easily, you probably shouldn't risk it.
It wasn’t and you’re a dunce. Stanley Kubrick never just “puts stuff in” it’s deliberate, the ending shows him as the caretaker, because the hotel has always had him, he’s always been apart of the place.. this is him returning and the hotel using him again. Stop reading crappy Stephen king, snd watch the film properly, as a stand alone masterpiece.
I didn’t feel it was haphazard, it’s hinted/referenced several times throughout.
----when I was 10 years old I used to lay in my bed and be terrified when this commercial came on because it showed those bloody elevators😮😮😮😮
Was Jack insane? Yes. Was the hotel haunted? Also yes. To me, it's that simple. Love this one.
There was a sequel to "The Shining" (1980) called "Doctor Sleep" (2019). Warner Bros. insisted that it be a follow-up to the Kubrick film, and NOT the original book. It therefore explains things left unexplained in the Kubrick film, and follows Danny as an adult. King wrote the novel "Doctor Sleep," but it followed the events of the original book, not the film.
All the interiors of the hotel were created inside a huge studio. Some partial exterior facades and the snowy maze, too.
One of my favorite horror movies. Just a great piece of cinema, thriller or not. So much about it amazes me and impresses me--- particularly the fact that every interior room of the hotel that we see was created for the film. The exterior shots were done on location, but Mr. Kubrick had all those hallways and rooms built. Just imagine. They had to light the big room with those huge windows to make it look like outside was sunny and bright. Then, after the movie wrapped, I assume the sets were torn down (ugh, that kills me, LOL). Also, for the seemingly endless pages of manuscript that Wendy discovers, Kubrick and his secretaries typed those whenever time would allow them to during the making of the movie. That is a scary scene to me because she really knows how insane her husband has become, and that he is way beyond help.
There are horror stories about Stanley Kubrick's treatment of the cast, and his perfectionism. It is astonishing to learn that he made the little boy Danny Lloyd and Scatman Crothers (Mr. Halloran) do their scene together over _100 times._ You do not do that to a kid, to an older gent, or to anyone. Crazy.
I do wonder if young people today get some of the movie's references from the past, like "Here's Johnny!!" and "Not by the hair of my chinny chin chin" (do kids get told fairy tales like _The Three Little Pigs_ these days? I am not sure). But this is just my mind wandering.
The Steadicam, a device that I believe was fairly new in 1980, adds so much to the whole experience, smoothly moving throughout the space of The Overlook Hotel. How cool that a man could carry this thing around with him and it would not shake or jerk around as it captures footage. Love that. It gives scenes featuring Danny on the Big Wheel toy such a sense of intimacy.
Some of the scenes in The Shining, for me, are almost mesmerizing. The red bathroom sequence with Delbert Grady (called Charles Grady by the hotel manager early in the film) is wonderful. Just two people talking, but it really has a strong effect. Chilling, especially when Grady says "corrected".
The Shining belongs in an elite pantheon of spooky gems, along with Alien, Jaws, The Thing, Psycho and The Exorcist. Thanks for sharing your first viewing. I love that your intuition was brewing, and you knew that Jack Torrance somehow already had a history there. Not a lot of people hone in on that notion when they see this movie.
That green tile bathroom in Room 237 was also stunning as interior design!
@@dcg4mn Yep, super Deco look there.
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Kubrick was always VERY visually striking, eye popping and unique ✊🏽
DOCTOR SLEEP!!! DOCTOR SLEEP!!! DOCTOR SLEEP!!!
NO! Let THE SHINING be without distraction from unrelated crap.
@@torbjornkvist It's NOT unrelated, it's DANNY'S continuation story.
If you don't like it, that's great, but don't try to dictate what other people watch and enjoy.
Do you know the first time I ever became aware of him was his reaction to The exorcist 😮😮😮❤and I'm so in love with this channel I couldn't wait for him to finally do this
This is magical I've been waiting a long time this is a psychological thriller that never leaves you😮😮😮❤
Doctor sleep SUCKS
🔴Salvo it's KELLI I HAVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR YOU TO DO THIS I'M SO EXCITED I'M WATCHING THIS NOW🔴🔴🔴 I want to recommend The bad seed. From 1956 I'm not kidding.
Not enough people remember the impact of that movie it's like psycho
YES but I HOPE if he does it, that he makes sure it is the 1956 version starring Patty McCormick. The remake was not good, and it was switched to a boy, and his dad, instead of a girl and her mother. Patty McCormick was SO MUCH CREEPIER as the girl, than the boy in the remake.
Here we go y'all I'm sitting right now settled in to see what he does.. this is a psychological thriller that never leaves you 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐✔️😵💫
Got up to the darts scene & had to turn off, you don't have to put your mug over the picture that much.
Lower corner, not center.
I love the less is more approach. Lots of reacters talk way too much instead of actually watching the movie (which is probably a nervous reaction to being creeped the fuck out). But the tension in your face said volumes.
Hear, hear!
Doctor Sleep is the sequel, following Danny as an adult. The book isn't a patch on The Shining so i haven't seen the movie, yet. The Shining was much parodied, particularly in The Simpsons - Treehouse of Horror V.
I prefer the movie Doctor Sleep to The Shining. I think it ties up all the loose ends nicely.
Tony saves the day in this film. He appeared in Danny's mouth (MOUTH) from the moment his father, Jack, started to sexually abuse his son. Tony warns about the hotel. Tony takes over Danny after Jack attacks him in room 237 (the rotten lady is Jack's monster). Tony opens the pantry for Jack. Tony lures Mr. Hallorann to the hotel to get the snowcat (note that he never warns Hallorann about Jack through "shining"). Tony lures Jack out into the maze where he kills him.
I’m only 9 minutes in and I’m SO entertained! 😂 your reactions are great and hilarious in the best ‘Everyman’ way: everyone has basically the same reactions at the same times- “Wait - what?!” 😆
I saw this when brand new in the theaters. It’s such great fun: really is a lifetime fave.
After this, you’ll get a kick out of the documentary “Room 237” on the making of, but mostly the hidden symbols and meanings -Kubrick was intellectual enough that they’re all totally plausible.
Also: the 40 years later sequel “Dr. Sleep” with Ewan McGregor is surprisingly very good too🤘🏽
Scariest Tuesday Ever! Very astute when you caught Jack Nicholson acting familiar with the Hotel in the beginning. Nicholson is a legend among actors. He can portray so many expressions and emotions. You are the first reactor I have seen that caught Nicholson visually expressing his comfort with the Hotel. Kubrick's directing and Jack Nicholson's acting are the stand outs for me. The other actors did a great job as well.
My take is the Hotel is evil and collects souls. Jack Torrance was a reincarnated soul from the Caretaker back in the 1921 picture. He was compelled to return to the Hotel, bringing his family as victims with him. His son Danny was powerful with 'The Shining'. Jack also had Shining, but to a lesser extent. It was happy it got the Cook plus getting Jack back - but the Hotel really wanted Danny's soul most of all because of his strength in Shining.
The way I understood it was the "shining" is like an esp where those that have it can relate to each other without talking, like the cook told Danny in the beginning. That's how the cook knew to go to them, he "read" Danny when Danny was shaking & his eyes were rolling back. I think Danny's imaginary friend was just a tool to help Danny cope with what was happening around him. Many times too impressionable people (mostly children) can see ghosts more often than adults. That helped push Tony into the forefront. But when Jack whacked the cook & Danny saw that, it kicked Danny into fight or flight mode, when he ran into the maze & began using his head to get out. Jack Nicholson did an amazing job in this movie. I agree with you that he was there in the past, and returned as a demon ghost "shining" where he lost his mind all over again to sort of "feed" that shining more. Remember too Jack already knew the bartenders name was Lloyd bc Lloyd never told him his name. Anywho it's a twisted movie but very good. Of course u may not agree with and/or see things the way I've explained them here. Like u said, it's open for viewer interpretations. Great reactions Sal & good editing for time as well. Enjoy the rest of ur wknd. Peace out🙂👍🏼
Great reaction, have my like and sub.
Great reaction
Another psychological thriller I think you'll like and you don't have to wait for Halloween, is The Dead Zone starring Christopher Walken. Also by Stephen King. It won many awards in the Sci-Fi and Horror category. My favorite thriller and King book as well. Hello from sunny Florida 🌞🌴
Kubrick tormented Shelly Duvall during filming because he wanted her to be highly emotional and he even told the crew to never comfort her when she was crying and she said that she had days where she cried for 24 hours and would lose her voice from filming scenes over and over like the stair scene which was filmed 125 times. People think doing this movie triggered her mental health issues that eventually caused her to walk away from her successful movie career and she lived in poverty till her death.
Scatman Cruthers initially turned the role off Dick down at first because he heard about Kubricks habit of filming scenes over and over and he didn't think he was physically up too it at his age but Jack Nicholson went to Kubrick and got him to agree to a 10 take limit for Scatmans scenes
Someone people think that Kurbick left a lot of clues in this movie that prove that he helped the U.S government fake the moon landing by directing it for them, they point to things like Danny's Apollo 11 sweater and a poster in the games room at the beginning and there is a documentary about it here in TH-cam.
Abuse piles upon abuse, and it stays in people. This film puts on a place. The land of the hotel was ripped from people; lots of people committed atrocities based on privilege over the years. Some places have a shine to them, like Mr. Halloran said.
“A cook”…??? 🤔
There are two Jacks in the movie. Green Jack is the writer and Red Jack is the character being written. Notice how the second time Jack meets the bartender how the money he has is torn on one corner? His money was no good because he already sold his soul to the hotel for a drink. And the bear scene at the end is letting Wendy know Jack was molesting Danny. This is what caused Danny to start talking to Tony. When the doctor examines Danny at the beginning he is in his undies next to a bear pillow. When Jack was in the lobby awaiting his interview he was reading a Playgirl magazine and one of the articles was about incest.
I believe I watched this as young as 6 or 7. Classic child of the 80’s move. 😅
I saw Jaws when I was 10 so, yeah. 😁
Here's a proper synopsis with no spoilers: "When a family with an unusually gifted young boy agrees to be caretakers of a mountain hotel, they soon find they are beset by bizarre and strange occurrences that drive them to the edge of madness and murder."
“Him” they never go mad. Or get near.. watch movies, stop reading hack king books.
After all these years still saying "Here's Johnny!"
This movie seen in the 80s was the most shocking thing we’d ever seen.
I wonder if you were younger than I 😉
I was 26 and saw it new in the theaters, felt the “horror” was a tad lightweight - more of a psychological thriller.
However years later I watched it with my son, I thought age 12 would be fine but it scared the HELL out of him! 😱
-I realized later, duh, for kids it’s not the horror: it’s the idea that your father could suddenly without explanation lose his fkg mind and want to murder you (!)
So: not for kids! 🙄😬
Unless you had seen The Exorcist in the 70s, which is really in a class of its own regarding shock value in a mainstream movie relative to its release date.
The TV ISN'T PLUGGED IN TO ANYTHING!!!
TheJjack of today is the reincarnation of the Jack of 1921 just like Charles Grady was the reincarnation of Delbert Grady. All those persons in the movie apart the family are ghosts.
An insightful and intelligent reaction to a complex classic film. After watching this you should watch Mike Flanagan's take on "Haunting of Hill House" and compare and contrast it with Kubrick's "The Shining." Stephen King's "The Shining" obviously was influenced by Shirley Jackson's novel "Haunting of Hill House." And Flanagan's "Hill House" tv-series is indebted to Kubrick's vision of "The Shining." So, a lot of cross-pollination happening.
Although I don't often subscribe to his themes, I do recognize Kubrick as a great filmmaker, and "The Shining" (TS) is certainly a masterpiece of cinema. I like it very much even though I'm not a fan of Stephen King or his books. This must be due solely to Kubrick. Well, let's also give credit to the actors and the production crew, too. As great as Nicholson and Duvall were in the film, that little boy, Danny Lloyd, really made the movie for me. I think he was five when he started filming TS. For a child that age, he was just outstanding. He himself came up with the finger puppet for Tony, his alter ego. Kudos, also, to Philip Stone and Joe Turkel for being quietly sinister and menacing. I don't want to forget good-guy Scatman Crothers, either. Well-done Scatman. Then there's the Overlook. Not only is it alive, but it is the personification of evil.
TS has all the Kubrick touches. All those long hallway and hedge maze shots are one-point-perspective. That's a Kubrick trademark. Also, don't some of those nighttime hedge maze shots remind you of HAL's "eye" in 2001 a bit? They do me. Another characteristic of Kubrick is his focus on intense person-to-person interactions. Yeah, TS has just a little bit of that. By the way, isn't it weird HAL in 2001 acts like a person, and the people act like computers/robots? Those long tracking-shots as people move about the hotel are another Kubrick trait. The musical score as an integral part of the narrative of TS is also textbook Kubrick. Kubrick was a perfectionist, and that is reflected in his films. For example, background is as significant as foreground. Why does Jack's typewriter change color? Is it because Jack has been transformed? Oh, "All work and no play" goes back to at least 1659. It didn't originate with TS although it certainly fits. Why do bits of the hotel, like the furniture, for example, appear, disappear or move about? Is it because the hotel is alive? The answer is yes by the way. It's definitely not due to continuity problems. Finally, Kubrick always forces the viewer to think about and dissect his films. That certainly happens in TS. As a result, we and Kubrick share in a common creative impulse when watching TS. The film becomes a living thing.
Here are a few of the other things I've noticed about TS. The film is replete with mirrors. They're everywhere. Watch how they affect Jack. Are they how the hotel projects its power? A portal of sorts? Do they also absorb power? Are they its eyes as well? Likewise, there are mazes everywhere. There's the obvious hedge maze, but the hotel itself is a maze, and so is the hallway carpet. Early on, Wendy remarks on the need for breadcrumbs, a reference to Hansel and Gretel and the maze-like quality of the hotel. TS is a variation of Theseus and the Minotaur with Danny as Theseus, Tony as Ariadne etc. Wendy also says the hotel is like a ghostship. The hotel feeds off Danny and Jack's shining power and gets more powerful as time passes. The hotel wants Danny dead so it can absorb him and his power. Did you notice all the knives pointed at Danny's head on several occasions in the film? When Hallorann and Danny are talking in the kitchen bits of the conversation were telepathic. Numbers seem to come up a lot in the film. For example, Danny wears a shirt with 42 on the sleeve, the tv with no power cord is showing "Summer of 42," and room 237 is 2x3x7=42. I think Kubrick's wife said "Summer of 42" was one of his favourite movies along with "The Bank Dick." The latter is a great movie with W. C. Fields. I love it when Danny asks Jack if he feels bad. That can be taken two ways as in do you feel evil or do you feel unwell. And, of course, Jack repeats the girls saying forever and ever, meaning I want to join with the hotel in death. Jack does, of course, sell his soul for a drink. Is that why Lloyd the bartender won't take his money? Jack's already paid in full? The people and things Danny and Jack see are real, but only people with shining can see them at first. When Jack returns to the ballroom where the 1920s party is going on, a woman walks by him with a bloody handprint on her backside. This is about the time the advocaat is spilled on him. Jack also wipes some advocaat on Grady's back. In the bathroom scene, it's clear Grady's girls also had "the shine" and wanted to destroy the hotel, but they were killed instead and absorbed. Grady himself, probably like Jack, also had "the shine." In the conversation between Jack and Grady, Grady switches between Grady and the entity of the hotel. Jack may also switch with the "caretaker." When Jack and Wendy are being shown their apartment, Jack eyes the two departing young ladies. A sign of his lechery? Ditto the girlie magazine he's reading in the lobby early on. He definitely has a wandering eye. Even early on, he doesn't seem to hold Wendy in high regard. When Jack enters room 237, the carpet there is obviously suggestive of the sex act. Very phallic etc. Sex, in one way or other, features in many Kubrick films. Room 237 is the heart of the hotel. The nude woman represents the hotel seducing Jack. The heartbeat we hear is the hotel's and signals the hotel's malevolent activity and increasing power. We hear it overtly later in the film but weaker earlier when Danny is riding the trike on/off the carpet and when Jack is bouncing the ball. The high-pitched tone indicates "shining" is happening. So, Jack clearly shines, too. He's one of those who doesn't realize he has it. Jack several times in the film exhibits the Kubrick glare or stare, a shot of a man glowering up at the camera from beneath lowered brows, an indicator of danger or madness. You see it in "Full Metal Jacket." And I think HAL in 2001 also shows it. Doesn't HAL's red pupil change size? When Jack goes on his rant about his obligations to the hotel before Wendy conks him, he's not talking about Ullmann and co. He's talking about "the hotel," the thing that's alive. That's who he's made the contract and sold his soul to. Remember Lloyd the bartender's ominous hotel remarks. REDRUM is MURDER backwards, and it signifies anti-murder. It's a totem that protects against murder. That's why Danny writes it on the bathroom door. Jack can batter the door, but he won't get in. Danny is also warning Wendy and arming her as a result of his REDRUM recital. The photos are part of the hotel like the typewriter and furniture. When Jack dies, he's absorbed by the hotel and winds up in the 1920s photo. Towards the end, the hotel's evil spirit, the caretaker, may have abandoned Jack to die in the maze. He did fail in his task. That ball in the photo was the same one where the advocaat was spilled. So, he was there in 1921 and he wasn't. Kubrick deleted a final scene from TS. Wendy was in hospital and Ullman was visiting. He told her all was normal at the hotel. No Jack. No Hallorann?
I've watched several reactions to TS, and I'm amazed at some of the observations. Got some beefs. A lot of people don't make a connection between Danny's first vision of the blood elevator, which signifies all the death at the hotel, and his passing out. They disassociate these two events when clearly they go together as the image of Danny's horrified face shows. From the get-go, it's clear Danny can see past events and future events. He knows Jack got the job and is going to call Wendy. He knows he doesn't want them to go to the hotel. He knows the hotel signifies danger. Why don't people notice that Danny's shirt and jumper are torn when he come to the Colorado Lounge after being strangled? Danny's clearly in shock, too. When Danny is foaming at the mouth and Hallorann is having his mini-fit, Danny is clearly communicating with Hallorann there is danger, come and help. How can Wendy be so sound asleep before Danny wakes her? Come on, the poor woman has been on edge for weeks. She hasn't been sleeping well. Now that she's locked crazy Jack up, she literally passes out, thinking they're safe. After Danny slides down from the bathroom window, why are people surprised he comes back into the hotel? It's freakin' cold outside. Do you live at the equator or something? After Jack kills Hallorann and Danny screams, why are people surprised when Danny bolts his hiding place? It's not a hiding place anymore, Jack knows where he is. Anyway, the hotel will lead him to Danny. Danny runs outside because he's actually luring Jack into the maze to meet his fate.
Danny is the hero of TS, he's Theseus, who killed the monster in the maze.
Stephen King did not like this film. The reason was that Kubrick did not follow his "lead." King did not understand filmmaking, and Kubrick was an extremely independent artist. The film THE SHINING is Kubrick's and only Kubrick's.
Never occurred to me before that there are parallels with Kubrick’s
2001: Space Odyssey from just
12 years earlier.
>> 2 (or 3) people totally isolated in a massive empty structure, mostly just to maintain & keep it running. There’s an omniscient, unsettling, sinister presence emanating from the structure itself.
In 2001 it’s the AI computer HAL of course, in Shining it FEELS like the hotel has its own ‘consciousness’ showing humans images from its past, manipulating them to do things it ‘wants’ … even prompting Grady to let Jack out of the pantry.
(I know fans dispute that part, I didn’t read the book. Personally I feel movies are their own entity and have their own needs and sensibility: they are NOT mere illustrations of books)
>> In the end the ‘structure’, the entity, turns on the humans but is not entirely successful ✊🏽
Danny's full name is "Daniel Anthony Torrance"... Tony is his alter-ego, or maybe his future self. It's just one facet of his ability to "shine".
Killer graphic. Did you make it yourself?
What a film...levels to this onion mate
Saw this in theater at 9 yro weeks after seeing next-level game-changer slasher "Friday The 13th". Saw " Halloween" at 6.😅 Good Times!
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The big trick with THE SHINING is the deliberate lack of logic and inconsistent plotlines. All that to unsettle you as the audience. Kubrick made this film for commercial reasons, to save his economy after the tanking of BARRY LYNDON. He told his closest coworkers, "Let's make a horror movie no one will forget." So he did, from the first second to the last, Kubrick uses every film trick in the book to make you uncomfortable. It's a masterpiece.
i been looking forward to this reaction i knew you would enjoy it, just like cuckoos nest my 2 fave films of all time both masterpieces..........how you picked up on jack be like he knows whats happening and whats coming etc etc was impressive.........ive always felt he was a reincarnation repeated several times until the chain was broken
Jack Nicholson is THE PERFECT crazy person. Watch some of his other movies and you'll see, he always plays the perfect crazy guy. The movie is very good, so is the book. I never cared for the 90's Stephen King movie though, I always liked this movie better. Doctor Sleep is a great book and movie to watch as well. Its the sequel to The Shinning. Poor Shelley Duvall was put through hell by the director during filming though. I think some of her fear was real during this. The Overlook hotel is based off a real hotel called The Stanley located in Colorado.
TUESDAY !!!
Watch sequel Doctor Sleep.
That’s a piece of crap, not a sequel.
This is a horror masterpiece! You HAVE to do Doctor Sleep!
First time I saw this I was in college in a movie theater ALONE. Unforgettable. You caught on EARLY, congrats.
Dang, was the "meep meep" traumatizing you? 😂😂😂
That Amazon synopsis should've come with a spoiler alert. Wow.
Shelly Duvall's despair was very real. I watched a documentary of the making of the movie as well as having read comments from both Jack and Shelly. The director pretty much tortured Shelly to keep her nerves on edge. Jack even commented on hard the team was on Shelly and how much it upset her but it paid off.
NO. Shelly Duvall denied this 100 percent. It was a tough shoot, no question about it, but she knew what she was doing. She was aware that Kubrick wanted her frail demeanor, the fact that he knew that she spent time at a psychiatric clinic. Shelley Duvall battled with her mental health all her life.
The absolute best opening of a scary movie ------ please go back and watch Kubrick's GENIUS!!!! soundtrack and film! Love that you did this!
I saw this with my parents at age 9. My mom tried to cover my eyes during the axe 🪓 scene and sound of the door being hacked and Wendy’s screaming was drilled into my head forever and ever. BTW, I’m am currently in my 5th month of sobriety myself.
Stanley Kubrick was one of the greatest directors of our time.
Please react to Talk to me & Hereditary… both A24 films 🖤🌹🖤🧛🏻♀️
I saw this film in the theatre back in the mid-80's, when they showed it again for a brief period of time. Apparently by popular demand, as the entire theatre was packed - so packed in fact that I had to sit in the aisle (something I'd agreed to when buying the ticket). I bet that the fire department wouldn't have been impressed... 😲 One thing that really stayed with me was the audio. I could physically feel the audio, one example being when Danny rides his tricycle. Whenever the tricycle crossed the bare floor, the rumbling sound caused the theatre floor to vibrate. Then it went quiet as Danny hit the carpet, and then rumbling vibrations again, and so on. For some reason, that felt really unnerving and I wouldn't be surprised if this was Kubrick's very intention. Then we've got Wendy Carlos' very unsettling soundtrack, who also created the music for Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange".
Thanks for another great reaction/commentary! Oh, and as others have noted - the editing is great, probably the best I've seen in any reaction to "The Shining"!
Oh shit I totally forgot that was Wendy Carlos!😮 First ‘classical’ album I ever bought was her “Switched on Bach” 😁
(As a movie music sidebar😉 on Saturday I’m attending an even of Morricone’s music)♥️
Great reaction! Love that you are sharing more thoughts at conclusion. Keep them coming.
I agree the book is much better.
Definitely check out Doctor Sleep. It “fixes” the problems that Stephen King didn’t like about Kubrick’s interpretation of the novel, and in my opinion it’s a sequel that is just a hair shy of being as good as the original.
It doesn’t “fix” it tried to replicate without the talent.. this isn’t kings garbage book.
Please react to Interview With The Vampire ~ the series! The writing, cinematography, acting is amazing! 🖤🌹🖤🧛🏻♀️
And if you think you need to piece together the plot, wait until you try piecing together the architecture. 😅
I didn't understand the man in the bear suit.
Ghosty blowie.
Just a weird NY’s Eve costume party, people having sex.
Remember the ballroom was full of partiers? Some find their way upstairs … as always 😆
Danny is the one who let Jack out of the pantry. He was always watching Roadrunner outsmart Coyote and when we see him "hiding" in the metal cart in the hallway he bravely jumps out - right in front of Jack... allowing him to give chase. Danny deliberately lured Jack into the maze and defeated him. Nobody ever gives the kid the credit he deserves.
Its not a criticism of you in particular, but I feel that everyone takes Jack Nicholsons performance at face value. …pun intended- Jack looks the way he looks, which appears sinister. If you want insight into his acting style you could watch some of his other films- hes even in a romance film with Helen Hunt. He has unsettling features, but often is more complex than he seems. Knowing the book gives you more insight into the character and what certain actions or moments are supposed to mean- although Kubricks translation of the book into film is quite different, placing most of the blame on Jacks character as opposed to supernatural forces like the Overlook.
You need to read the book, much more explanatory.
One word reincarnated
When she sees all he's been writing on that typewriter it starts to go totally cuckoo 😵😫😣
Nice. I loved the book, and I love the movie, though they're different. But this movie is the definition of horror par excellence. A study in how to develop tension. No need for over the top slasher style ridiculousness. We're forced to watch the descent of a man seduced by evil, and come along for the ride. Utter genius. People rave about the 'sequel 'Doctor Sleep' which, to be fair, is a brilliant film in its own right, but it lacks the taught stress this one induces. Magic. p.s. People should never read a synopsis before watching a movie. I wasn't even aware that streaming services do such an utterly stupid thing as to provide one but, I guess so. sigh
To be honest, the book is much scarier to me. The atmosphere created by Stephen King is incredible. Kubrick was always trying too hard to be intense, Stephen King hated this movie, and while still like it, I can see why he didn't. Also I heard that Kubrick and Nicholson tormented Shelley Duvall during filming to get her into an actual state of exhaustion, so that she didn't really have to act towards the end, it was authentic emotion. Kind of takes the fun out of it for me. ✌❤
I liked the book, but Kubrick is one of the best directors of all time, and this is one of the best movies of all time. I didn't find the book scarier. I'm more afraid of people, anger, isolation, and madness. I don't believe in ghosts, so i agree. with Kubrick here.
And those allegations about Shelly are long debunked and overblown, by her btw, you can google it pretty easily
The book is about a loving but troubled family who end up in an evil place full of twisted, wicked ghosts, and in the end the evil of the place takes over the father in order to get him to kill his family and himself in order to add the power of Danny's shine to the rest of its evil power. Book Jack was a troubled alcoholic who was so horrified at hurting his son that he finally quit drinking... which really made him more susceptible to the influence of the Overlook's evil because it magnified his anger.
The movie is about a really creepy dad who is perpetually angry at his family and the world in general, and the Overlook just gives him the little push he needed to slide into complete murderous insanity, bringing his anxiety laden wife and psychic son along for the ride.
Both of them came from the same basic ideas, but they're definitely two very different takes on that idea - and I prefer the book, too. Although, I did enjoy how Mike Flanagan melded both of them in a fantastic way in the sequel movie Doctor Sleep.
I heard Jack tried to defend her, he hated Kubrick too.🙀🤬
That’s because your iq is below 40.
those are sensationalized rumors. Duvall said it was a grueling shoot but she never claimed to be abused and she defended Kubrick consistently for pretty much the rest of her life.
🤢wheww I cannot wait to see what he does at the shower scene. In the green bathroom 🫣😱
This movie actually drove Shelley Duvall nuts. Kubrick was a great director, but he might have been a little too rough on Shelley- working her into a state of terror for the realism of the part. Maybe that was the only way. It's debatable, like everything. It was too much for the poor girl. I'm speculating, as all of us are with this movie, but I think everything was a manifestation or illusion created by the Indian spirits in the hotel, which was built over an Indian burial ground, combined with Jack's memories of his past life there. The hotel's spirits began to inhabit Jack. In the gold ballroom party scene, Jack continued having flashes of his past life there from 1921. He'd been the caretaker there. In the restroom Delbert Grady was a projection from Jack's memory of his past life there. Having been the caretaker there in 1921, it was like returning home. Delbert Grady was there as a waiter in 1921, and Charles was the possessed caretaker that killed his wife and kids much later, in 1970. Jack was in Denver, then. Delbert claimed he did the evil deed, but there was a link between the Grady's, I think. It might have been Charles coming through Delbert when he said that, as Jack said he'd seen his photo in the papers.
Stanley Kubrick absolutely tortured Shelly Duval during the filming of this film and she was actually horrified. Some scenes had over 100 takes which was something that Kubrick was notorious through his career.
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you should go in blind and dont read what the story is about. loses the appeal .
I agree: years ago I read Marathon Man and it completely ruined an excellent movie for me!
Never again 😉
It’s much better to come into a movie knowing nothing: read the book after -I’ve done that a few times since.
Btw a brilliant fun short book is A Clockwork Orange 😎
Ignore the garbage book, watch the film as a Stanley Kubrick masterpiece. King is a hack, and his books are garbage.
Why is your face covering the actors' faces? It's Kubrick. It's Nicholson. Get out of the way.