@@EastendofLondon2 I have no idea. It always looks like crap. I no longer buy any blu-ray before I see screencaps first. If it's slathered in teal, I won't buy it. I'll even stick to a DVD, if I have to.
@@EastendofLondon2Some lights on film will give that blue-ish green look. The problem is with digital colour timing on these releases now they go overboard, and they're probably not using consumer TVs.
6:59 says it all. The level of teal in some of these scenes is borderline ridiculous; it's as if these guys have some issue with studio lighting. Can't they understand its of its time?
Jimm Needle I agree! All the other movies look how they should, Batman returns, Batman forever, and the dark knight trilogy all have the correct color timing, but for some reason they ruined This one.
Bought the Burton set and they look Amazing. One thing that really popped out that I never noticed before is that Joker’s suit in the joy buzzer scene is actually pinstriped and not a solid purple. I did find the skin tones a little over saturated at times in the first movie though.
I was planning to buy the 4k, after this video I will get the standard blu-ray! This transfer is like terminator 2! Full of teal and sound effect change!
Holy HDR, Batman!!! Those are some inky black levels. Also looks like WB decided to change the aspect ratio from 1.77 to its theatrical 1.85. This studio hasn't done that since they stop making LaserDiscs.
Keaton's Batman is the scariest imo. The lighting, cowl, and overall design of the suit often make him to look scary af, especially when the eyes are in shadows.
This is dreadful. Whatever SDR conversion settings you're using the colours are way oversaturated and favouring teal and pink. The actual disc looks far more natural, nobody's skin is blotchy red and The Joker's makeup certainly isn't teal.
Love what you're doing with your comparison videos! Really helps me decide when a 4k upgrade is warranted. This is one of my all-time favorite movies made even better in 4k. Keep up the great work!
Well Olivier, do you have this new edition ? You can write what you want but the result is what you see and I surprised myself with this colorimetry too. This is not what I prefer but believe it or not, this HDR is identical to my comparison.
Teal & orange all over it.... it takes away it's original look... why but why every movie today has to look the same with this HD Filter teal and orange thing!
I was almost sold on this, but I'll stick with my Bluray thank you very much. I don't like the faint blue tint on some scenes, the white highlights are too bright. A little over saturated on some of the bright scenes too.
Why not just enjoy and own both then ? That's what i do. I own every version of Batman 1989 & Batman Returns since there my favorite Batman movies ever made
@@Mike-t5r9q Afraid not, the 4k releases of Batman and Batman Forever as a bastardization of these movies. The blue tint ruins the picture and is not the intended look of the film. To add to that no option to have the original audio. No thank you I am sticking with my blurays.
@TheHolisticVegan Fair enough i can totally respect that. My favorite version of all Batman 1989 & Batman Returns is the original dvd release from 1997 looks super crisp with the original film grain and the original audio
The 4k has some improvement but I'll stick to my blu-ray because batman is not teal 7:46 😂 I wish this was as good as beetlejuice or batman returns transfer
First do you have this new edition? Maybe your TV is badly calibrated. Because the result is identical to what you see on my channel. Everything is comformed. However you should also know that this version contains a lot of blue hue and a slight saturation and relatively black tones in some dark scenes. Anyway I'm sorry Man !
@@Mymoonization Yea i have the new release, arrived yesterday, my Tv is pro calibrated , its a 2018 panasonic oled and my player is the panasonic UB9000 , I'm seeing a Teal tint in the video, the Joker makeup looked teal instead of White, but no need to Apologise mate its for Entertainment Only as you state..
06:00 look at the radioactive light bloom around the curtain and Alfred. The 4k version is not quite right in some scenes. Very strange, some shots are still warm on the 4k despite having a teal tint.
The standard Blu-ray looks much better IMO. The blue tint on the 4K changes the look of most scenes and not in a good way. The saturation and contrast are way too high. Everybody is freaking orange.
@@Mymoonization I just watched your entire video again...these alterations RUINED the film. Gotham looks like shit now. This obsession with "inky blacks' bugs the hell out of me. It's obvious from the opening shot that Gotham is supposed to look foggy/smoggy. It adds to the mysterious look of it. By upping the contrast and applying that damn blue tint to everything they completely wiped away the original atmosphere of the film. Stupid.
ME: "Damn, Batman, why so blue... is it 'cause your parents died"? BATMAN: "No. It's just me in another My Moonization comparison video". 😔 Man, I'm watching this 4K 30th Anniversary edition right now and, guess what, no blue tint! I'm sure ol' Moonie will ask if I have the "new version"... answer is yes(what other 4K version is there?). Some might also tell me me that my TV isn't "calibrated" properly, and try to make me feel uncool because I don't have a billion dollar entertainment set-up. But, hey, at least my set-up makes the movie look like it actually takes place in Gotham and not Tealtown, USA. 😉 Either way, I don't think people should put too much stock into these kinds of comparison videos, as everyone's displays are different and a movie image can't be judged on one persons opinion alone. This is not THE definitive take on the 4K quality of this movie, people. Sad, because videos like this will probably detour some people from buying this otherwise AMAZING movie with an AMAZING 4K transfer. At any rate, judge for yourself consumers. If it means anything to anyone, I wholeheartedly recommend this version for any fan that's on the fence as far as the quality is concerned. Plus, if your display shows up "too blue" I'm sure it can be adjusted, somehow. 🤷🏼♂️
@Nolberto Cales, no problem. I found no problematic issues with the color on my set-up. But, it could just be an issue with certain systems and how they're calibrated. It should always be determined through the eyes of the beholder. Like I said, I thought these remasters looked great... to each their own, I guess. I sure hope you are able to enjoy them as I did. If not, then I give you full permission to hunt me down and beat your Amazon refund outta me! 🤣👍
Good lord that teal wash along with a huge splash of over contrasting to a point where a lot of the mid tones are nearly blown out!🤦♂️ All the actors look like they’ve been in the sun too long, I’ll stick with the subtle, elegant tones of the original!
I don't know, I think the original color balance and sound design is superior. It matches the tone of the film, this doesn't. I wonder if they'll release a more authentic version.
This might just be one of those instances where I'm better off holding onto the regular Blu-Rays. Some shots in the 4K version looks really off. Then, Oliver Harper mentioned and showcased the new sound effects and that sealed the deal. Thanks but no thanks on the 4K versions, I'm afraid.
There is something that I will never understand, what is the true color palette according to what was filmed, I say from the original master tape ?. There are big differences between a vhs, dvd, bluray, and 4k
@@Mymoonization But nobody tells me what is the original color of the master tape, how will you know from vhs to 4k they look very different, so which is the closest to the master tape?
Well the problem is that for years people got used to seeing this film with different colorimetries and no one complained. But since the arrival of Blu-ray with the HDR mode everything has changed. I think this version is definitely the fairest one because it's a dismal film noir and with a touch of blue that I think makes sense.But that remains my opinion of course.
From my recollection, this version is definitely closer to what I saw in the theaters during a mid-2000s screening I saw at an older theater. Before they closed down, the last few months, they did screenings for a ton of movies using older prints they still had. This movie was a tad faded, and had a few areas where it was starting to turn a bit pink (film breaking down due to age), but there was definitely a blue tint on the night scenes that I noticed wasn't there when I got the BD release. I will say though, this release seems to amplify it a bit, and it's likely due to the HDR mastering.
Don't forget that these comparison vids are not thst accurate as these vids on you tube are not actually UHD. It loosely gives you an idea but it's not truly faithful. I can confirm first hand thst both batman and batman returns both look stunning
It was tough for me to nail down a decision about which is better. Some shots got warmer in 4K while others got a cold greenish look to them. Take 3:06 and 3:31 for instance. In these shots, the color saturation is too high on the 4k release. These people are more orange than the president. Then look at 3:55 where it looks like the color is dialed down a bit on Michael Keaton's face from what it was on the 2013 Blu Ray. At 4:08 there seems to be a green tint added to the frames. I don't like it. At 4:39, Joker's face gets a cold greenish tint in 4k while at 4:54 the shot of Bruce training gets warmer colors in the 4k. Then there's the shot of the Batwing with the moon in the background at 7:58 wherein I think the 4k shot is better in every way. Ultimately I like the higher resolution frames of the 4k but the changes in color break it for me. I'd use the 2013 Blu Ray as my main, but I wouldn't look down on anyone who differs.
Eddy Wells but hope u won’t mind the audio changes they’ve done using Dolby Atmos. For some reason they didn’t include the original audio as an option for fans who prefer it. Example they changed the sound of the gun shots and explosions. I don’t mind it though. I always found the guns shots sounding fake and odd.
finally watched it on 4k and irs not tinted like Terminator 2 is in every scene. People are missing out. Theres a bunch of blue lights in the cave if you pay attention.
I really don't understand how anyone can stand the blue saturation of the 4k version. It butchers the original film, I don't care how much clearer it looks. The Blade Runner final cut did the same shit.
Never thought I'd say this but Batman vs. Robin looks a thousand times better than this in 4K. Whoever thought "I think I'll crank up the teal" should be fired. (I know, it's usually just an overall white balance thing gone awry, but still).
It actually damn look good on 4K but to bad I have to get original version blu Ray version because it come with all 4 classic batman movie, Batman 1989, Batman Return, Batman Forever and Batman&Robin. It much cheaper with all these 4 movie as well on best buy. I wish I get 30th anniversary edition. Is there any 30th anniversary edition on original blu Ray by any chance?
4:16 the way the teal tint makes the neon-light glow HURTS my eyes literally. That's in every modern movie with this bronze/orange/teal/silvery look. It's just like black and white, but instead with teal/orange. It literally hurts my eyes and is extremely exhausting to look at. The human eyes is VERY well adjusted to differ from face/skin tones and backgrounds. Those f*cking Hollywood regradings don't need to push every dam movie in to this color spectrum. But i guess people are SO adjusted to it, they don't even realize it. Even worse, they think it does look cheap if not possesing such color-grading. Modern Bond movies are some of the worst. I look at the screen and i literally can't see shit. It feels like being blind. The whole Bond movies are just GOLD/BLACK and otherwise TEAL/BLACK... edit* The "new" Star Wars movies where some of the best candidates to bring back natural colors and remind people of them, i'm sure most people would have loved it, but NO, they HAD to get this color-grading on. I'm sure the director can't even decide of what happens to the final product, it's the producers and i'm sure it sucks for most directors. (The movies are absolute shit anyway)
Great. The Blu-ray included in this package is mastered from the new 4K scan. That means it has more detail than before, but also the new color grade (without HDR). It also includes the new Atmos mix.
Blu-ray is the better choice for me and is true to the original… darker tones exaggerated sounds…with slightly better pixels without changing the color of the movie winner: Blu-ray edition
I like the 2013 better its how I remembered it watching it on VHS that over color grading can ruin it in some scenes. Same problem with the Matrix they are using this over saturated green for the newer blu ray release, Thank God , I have the original DVD which has no color grading
In the "I'm Batman shot, his left eye disappears on this artificial "upgrade." Have to winder if the new,1080p BD gas the sane issue. Would prefer seeing a comparison of the new vs old BD, without the gimmicks
Hmmm. Looks like they used the blue from the cover to soak the film overnight. at 1:42... His eye is gone! Still looks grittier and darker though. Im a fan if not for the overly blue hue.
Bilko Prince I agree too. I thought the 2009 Blu-ray was just an upconvert and didn’t look HD at all. Glad they remastered it from the original negatives
4k version looks awful. The blue filter look stinks like someone has their RGB levels badly adjusted the whole time. Also, skin tones look horribly unnatural in the 4k. Hate what they have done to my favorite movie, I'd rather watch my old laserdisc copy over this new 4k version.
Your comparison looks NOTHING like the colors actual 4K disc. What kind of SDR conversion are you using? It’s giving everything a terrible teal overcast that just shouldn’t be there.
Whoever was in charge of the 4K color grade should've been fired. The teal / blue is so heavily offensive I don't know how it was ever approved. I'm sure Tim Burton wouldn't have. Awful awful. If a new 4K is released I'm going to throw this into a nice orange / red fire.
4k looks terrible. I think most of the comments are from people that just want to have something that says 4k, but really doesn't make a difference in fidelity. The color grading looks awful. It's like the people behind making the 4K edition never heard of going back to take a look at the color grading of the original film. That's what 4K transfers should be, a faithful reproduction of the original theatrical release source material. Even if the negatives turned to dust, there are plenty of still from the film that was distributed in various forms. They just said, make it have the modern color grading and applied it to the entire movie and called it a day. This was definitely not done scene by scene. As for the sound, at the very least they should have given the option of having the one that they had on the Blu-ray version. They didn't have anything to do other than timing and adding it as an additional track. This was a lost opportunity.
I don't understand why everything is crying about the new color grade its more true to the original theatrical release they only brighten up Batman 1989 & Batman Returns for the VHS & Lazerdisc release since the crt tvs back then wouldn't work well with the original darker look. The dvd release and 2009 Blu-Ray just followed suit with the VHS & Lazerdisc brighter version. I do agree they should of kept the original audio but other then that i love the new Blu-Ray HDR look to Batman 1989 & Batman Returns basically how those movies were intended to look like originally
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The bluish tint is too much. I'll stick with the original Blu Ray at this rate.
You're missing out.
It's just an enchantment on the moonlight
@@smithfan22 The redone sound effects don't do it for me either.
agreed. that blue temp/tint is really exaggerated and not the way the film is supposed to look.
Some of the shadows are too flat for my taste in the 4K rendition.
The original Blu-ray isn't perfect, but its colors are infinitely preferable to this teal-soaked travesty.
Why are so many 4K transfers given this teal wash ? Is it supposed to bring out more definition ?
@@EastendofLondon2 I have no idea. It always looks like crap. I no longer buy any blu-ray before I see screencaps first. If it's slathered in teal, I won't buy it. I'll even stick to a DVD, if I have to.
@@EastendofLondon2Some lights on film will give that blue-ish green look. The problem is with digital colour timing on these releases now they go overboard, and they're probably not using consumer TVs.
I'm a bit hesitant. Oliver Harper's video addresses the sound effects changes.
He’s right !
6:59 says it all. The level of teal in some of these scenes is borderline ridiculous; it's as if these guys have some issue with studio lighting. Can't they understand its of its time?
She went from being a blonde to being grey!
Jimm Needle I agree! All the other movies look how they should, Batman returns, Batman forever, and the dark knight trilogy all have the correct color timing, but for some reason they ruined This one.
Bought the Burton set and they look Amazing. One thing that really popped out that I never noticed before is that Joker’s suit in the joy buzzer scene is actually pinstriped and not a solid purple. I did find the skin tones a little over saturated at times in the first movie though.
I was planning to buy the 4k, after this video I will get the standard blu-ray! This transfer is like terminator 2! Full of teal and sound effect change!
Holy HDR, Batman!!! Those are some inky black levels.
Also looks like WB decided to change the aspect ratio from 1.77 to its theatrical 1.85. This studio hasn't done that since they stop making LaserDiscs.
Why would they crop image out?
Makes sense
Damn not all scenes are good 4:42... way too blue
Call me.. The Smurf.
1:42 "WOW!! I can barely see his eye. It makes him look kinda scary."
Keaton's Batman is the scariest imo. The lighting, cowl, and overall design of the suit often make him to look scary af, especially when the eyes are in shadows.
This is dreadful. Whatever SDR conversion settings you're using the colours are way oversaturated and favouring teal and pink.
The actual disc looks far more natural, nobody's skin is blotchy red and The Joker's makeup certainly isn't teal.
So it doesn't look like these screenshots?
7:02 holy shit that's blue
Love what you're doing with your comparison videos! Really helps me decide when a 4k upgrade is warranted. This is one of my all-time favorite movies made even better in 4k. Keep up the great work!
My pleasure Dave and enjoy it 👍
this is the problem with technology, they get all kind of people justifying their job changing everything.
Original Colors are far better ! Batman suit is black !!!! Not blue !
Well Olivier, do you have this new edition ?
You can write what you want but the result is what you see and I surprised myself with this colorimetry too. This is not what I prefer but believe it or not, this HDR is identical to my comparison.
My moonization : ok sir . Sorry sorry
Would be perfect if it has a little less blue. Still s masterful upgrade.
Agree !
Adam Martin personally i like the blue it gives gotham a cold type look to it
Maybe too much saturated..... Anyway, a very good improvement over the BD edition. I want.
ln some parts the 4k version looks better. In conclusion the regular version is still the best
7:36 looks like Micheal Keaton time traveled
Teal & orange all over it.... it takes away it's original look... why but why every movie today has to look the same with this HD Filter teal and orange thing!
I was almost sold on this, but I'll stick with my Bluray thank you very much. I don't like the faint blue tint on some scenes, the white highlights are too bright. A little over saturated on some of the bright scenes too.
Why not just enjoy and own both then ? That's what i do. I own every version of Batman 1989 & Batman Returns since there my favorite Batman movies ever made
@@Mike-t5r9q Afraid not, the 4k releases of Batman and Batman Forever as a bastardization of these movies. The blue tint ruins the picture and is not the intended look of the film. To add to that no option to have the original audio. No thank you I am sticking with my blurays.
@TheHolisticVegan Fair enough i can totally respect that. My favorite version of all Batman 1989 & Batman Returns is the original dvd release from 1997 looks super crisp with the original film grain and the original audio
Older blu Ray looked blue, too, but I just lacked the clarity and hdr. lol Good transfer to me.
too much blue filter, too different from the original
The 4k has some improvement but I'll stick to my blu-ray because batman is not teal 7:46 😂
I wish this was as good as beetlejuice or batman returns transfer
Why does everything have a Teal tint in the 4k version you show?? Does not look like that at home here
First do you have this new edition? Maybe your TV is badly calibrated. Because the result is identical to what you see on my channel. Everything is comformed. However you should also know that this version contains a lot of blue hue and a slight saturation and relatively black tones in some dark scenes. Anyway I'm sorry Man !
@@Mymoonization Yea i have the new release, arrived yesterday, my Tv is pro calibrated , its a 2018 panasonic oled and my player is the panasonic UB9000 , I'm seeing a Teal tint in the video, the Joker makeup looked teal instead of White, but no need to Apologise mate its for Entertainment Only as you state..
Good for you !!
@NiceGuyAidey
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Are you saying that your copy of the new 4K release does NOT have any teal tint? ???
06:00 look at the radioactive light bloom around the curtain and Alfred. The 4k version is not quite right in some scenes. Very strange, some shots are still warm on the 4k despite having a teal tint.
The standard Blu-ray looks much better IMO. The blue tint on the 4K changes the look of most scenes and not in a good way. The saturation and contrast are way too high. Everybody is freaking orange.
Yes indeed Dwayne !
@@Mymoonization I just watched your entire video again...these alterations RUINED the film. Gotham looks like shit now. This obsession with "inky blacks' bugs the hell out of me. It's obvious from the opening shot that Gotham is supposed to look foggy/smoggy. It adds to the mysterious look of it. By upping the contrast and applying that damn blue tint to everything they completely wiped away the original atmosphere of the film. Stupid.
Will admit a lot of times the people’s faces look like they just got back from holiday in Spain
I agree. I hate these inky blacks, there is detail in the shadows, (cloth, wrinkles, ect) that is completely lost in this version
The definition is much better but colors are too saturated with blue and dark in certain scenes.
ME: "Damn, Batman, why so blue... is it 'cause your parents died"?
BATMAN: "No. It's just me in another My Moonization comparison video". 😔
Man, I'm watching this 4K 30th Anniversary edition right now and, guess what, no blue tint!
I'm sure ol' Moonie will ask if I have the "new version"... answer is yes(what other 4K version is there?). Some might also tell me me that my TV isn't "calibrated" properly, and try to make me feel uncool because I don't have a billion dollar entertainment set-up. But, hey, at least my set-up makes the movie look like it actually takes place in Gotham and not Tealtown, USA. 😉
Either way, I don't think people should put too much stock into these kinds of comparison videos, as everyone's displays are different and a movie image can't be judged on one persons opinion alone. This is not THE definitive take on the 4K quality of this movie, people. Sad, because videos like this will probably detour some people from buying this otherwise AMAZING movie with an AMAZING 4K transfer. At any rate, judge for yourself consumers.
If it means anything to anyone, I wholeheartedly recommend this version for any fan that's on the fence as far as the quality is concerned. Plus, if your display shows up "too blue" I'm sure it can be adjusted, somehow. 🤷🏼♂️
@Nolberto Cales, no problem.
I found no problematic issues with the color on my set-up. But, it could just be an issue with certain systems and how they're calibrated. It should always be determined through the eyes of the beholder. Like I said, I thought these remasters looked great... to each their own, I guess.
I sure hope you are able to enjoy them as I did. If not, then I give you full permission to hunt me down and beat your Amazon refund outta me! 🤣👍
Only terminator 2 so far has been like the review. I usually watch this a trusted movie 4k reviewer.
So Tim Burton was like: LeT's JuSt PuT a BuNcH oF bLuE oVeR tHe FiLm, Oh AnD sOmE oRaNgE cAuSe ThAt'S nAtUrAl!
Can't imagine a better comparison video. Great work!
2:20 Beautiful
and 07:35, shadow detail is crushed/missing in the 4k in Wayne's inner eye
Good lord that teal wash along with a huge splash of over contrasting to a point where a lot of the mid tones are nearly blown out!🤦♂️
All the actors look like they’ve been in the sun too long, I’ll stick with the subtle, elegant tones of the original!
New 4k master looks amazing.
Why are the first couple scenes darker in the 4k ver. versus the 2013 ver., then switched after the fact?!? Weird..
These are going to look awesome! Hurry up September!! 🦇
4:41 Not a single version fixed the purple Neck stain wtf
I still have this Batman on 📀.
6:58 holy blue tint Batman
All the night shots look green now. Even the batmobile is green! Horrible. Great comparison video through. Thank you.
I don't know, I think the original color balance and sound design is superior. It matches the tone of the film, this doesn't.
I wonder if they'll release a more authentic version.
Certainly looks better in the 4K version but notice the colours seem more saturated?
Better image though so all good
I got both of burtons and they are soooo good
This might just be one of those instances where I'm better off holding onto the regular Blu-Rays. Some shots in the 4K version looks really off. Then, Oliver Harper mentioned and showcased the new sound effects and that sealed the deal. Thanks but no thanks on the 4K versions, I'm afraid.
There is something that I will never understand, what is the true color palette according to what was filmed, I say from the original master tape ?. There are big differences between a vhs, dvd, bluray, and 4k
That's the point !
@@Mymoonization But nobody tells me what is the original color of the master tape, how will you know from vhs to 4k they look very different, so which is the closest to the master tape?
Well the problem is that for years people got used to seeing this film with different colorimetries and no one complained. But since the arrival of Blu-ray with the HDR mode everything has changed. I think this version is definitely the fairest one because it's a dismal film noir and with a touch of blue that I think makes sense.But that remains my opinion of course.
@@Mymoonization Which version? 4k uhd? Are you talking about this version?
From my recollection, this version is definitely closer to what I saw in the theaters during a mid-2000s screening I saw at an older theater. Before they closed down, the last few months, they did screenings for a ton of movies using older prints they still had. This movie was a tad faded, and had a few areas where it was starting to turn a bit pink (film breaking down due to age), but there was definitely a blue tint on the night scenes that I noticed wasn't there when I got the BD release. I will say though, this release seems to amplify it a bit, and it's likely due to the HDR mastering.
Looks good. Some look blue but I love the better contrast
The 2013 edition Blu-Ray is really good, just like the 2010 edition.
Holy eargasms Batman,
that first track slaps so good. 🎶 🎧 🎶
Don't forget that these comparison vids are not thst accurate as these vids on you tube are not actually UHD. It loosely gives you an idea but it's not truly faithful. I can confirm first hand thst both batman and batman returns both look stunning
It was tough for me to nail down a decision about which is better.
Some shots got warmer in 4K while others got a cold greenish look to them.
Take 3:06 and 3:31 for instance.
In these shots, the color saturation is too high on the 4k release. These people are more orange than the president.
Then look at 3:55 where it looks like the color is dialed down a bit on Michael Keaton's face from what it was on the 2013 Blu Ray.
At 4:08 there seems to be a green tint added to the frames. I don't like it.
At 4:39, Joker's face gets a cold greenish tint in 4k while at 4:54 the shot of Bruce training gets warmer colors in the 4k.
Then there's the shot of the Batwing with the moon in the background at 7:58 wherein I think the 4k shot is better in every way.
Ultimately I like the higher resolution frames of the 4k but the changes in color break it for me.
I'd use the 2013 Blu Ray as my main, but I wouldn't look down on anyone who differs.
what a great Upgrade! Absolutely worth it! Thumbs up!
Good transfer. But the new sound mix is horrifying. Not providing the original is insane.
new & improved 4k next year... hopefully.
Alot of green filters, no need for it...
It's because you see it in SDR you have to activate HDR and set the color temperature to zero in your TV setting. Merry Christmas !
it looks like all they did was pump up the contrast/saturation/black levels.
Really great looks amazing 👍😻 going to get box set when it comes cheaper??!!
Eddy Wells but hope u won’t mind the audio changes they’ve done using Dolby Atmos. For some reason they didn’t include the original audio as an option for fans who prefer it. Example they changed the sound of the gun shots and explosions. I don’t mind it though. I always found the guns shots sounding fake and odd.
finally watched it on 4k and irs not tinted like Terminator 2 is in every scene. People are missing out. Theres a bunch of blue lights in the cave if you pay attention.
What's with the blue tint
It's bluer. I saw the remastered blu Ray at 1080 and I prefer the original one. The remastered audio it's great but the image it' s over saturaded
I really don't understand how anyone can stand the blue saturation of the 4k version. It butchers the original film, I don't care how much clearer it looks. The Blade Runner final cut did the same shit.
Never thought I'd say this but Batman vs. Robin looks a thousand times better than this in 4K. Whoever thought "I think I'll crank up the teal" should be fired. (I know, it's usually just an overall white balance thing gone awry, but still).
It actually damn look good on 4K but to bad I have to get original version blu Ray version because it come with all 4 classic batman movie, Batman 1989, Batman Return, Batman Forever and Batman&Robin. It much cheaper with all these 4 movie as well on best buy. I wish I get 30th anniversary edition. Is there any 30th anniversary edition on original blu Ray by any chance?
After watching this in iTunes I would go with 4K definitely
4:16 the way the teal tint makes the neon-light glow HURTS my eyes literally.
That's in every modern movie with this bronze/orange/teal/silvery look.
It's just like black and white, but instead with teal/orange.
It literally hurts my eyes and is extremely exhausting to look at.
The human eyes is VERY well adjusted to differ from face/skin tones and backgrounds.
Those f*cking Hollywood regradings don't need to push every dam movie in to this color spectrum. But i guess people are SO adjusted to it, they don't even realize it. Even worse, they think it does look cheap if not possesing such color-grading.
Modern Bond movies are some of the worst. I look at the screen and i literally can't see shit.
It feels like being blind. The whole Bond movies are just GOLD/BLACK and otherwise TEAL/BLACK...
edit* The "new" Star Wars movies where some of the best candidates to bring back natural colors and remind people of them, i'm sure most people would have loved it, but NO, they HAD to get this color-grading on. I'm sure the director can't even decide of what happens to the final product, it's the producers and i'm sure it sucks for most directors.
(The movies are absolute shit anyway)
Well…..you're not totally wrong but unfortunately it's like that for some films !
So… I heard there’s a normal blu ray that’s remastered packaged with the 4K disc. How does that compare with the first blu ray release?
Great. The Blu-ray included in this package is mastered from the new 4K scan. That means it has more detail than before, but also the new color grade (without HDR). It also includes the new Atmos mix.
Blu-ray is the better choice for me and is true to the original… darker tones exaggerated sounds…with slightly better pixels without changing the color of the movie winner: Blu-ray edition
I like the 2013 better its how I remembered it watching it on VHS that over color grading can ruin it in some scenes. Same problem with the Matrix they are using this over saturated green for the newer blu ray release, Thank God , I have the original DVD which has no color grading
The original 1997 dvd of Batman 1989 & Batman Returns are the best versions in my opinion
In the "I'm Batman shot, his left eye disappears on this artificial "upgrade." Have to winder if the new,1080p BD gas the sane issue. Would prefer seeing a comparison of the new vs old BD, without the gimmicks
Nice. And I’m just anxious to hear the Atmos track
It’s pretty good 👍 !!
Is the resolution any better?? Or just slightly upscaled
For me it’s better than 1080p for sure !
Basically, it’s like the live-action Titans.
It's WAAAAY to blue...
Hmmm. Looks like they used the blue from the cover to soak the film overnight.
at 1:42... His eye is gone!
Still looks grittier and darker though. Im a fan if not for the overly blue hue.
In fact there is a lot of blue but overall the result remains very good !!
The dark knight
Can you a 4K comparison video for Toy Story 1 please. I’m curious to know how it looks
Yup !!!
The tint I can somewhat live with, but the SFX is unacceptable! Give me my classic 80s SFX any day of the year!
Damn the 4K one looks way better
Looks good just like alian 4k did 👍
I always thought my blu ray copy looked awful
Bilko Prince I agree too. I thought the 2009 Blu-ray was just an upconvert and didn’t look HD at all. Glad they remastered it from the original negatives
I just noticed how bad it looked last night.
Watched it today. This film has not aged well.
You're retarded this movie is still great
4K looks a million times better.
4k version looks awful. The blue filter look stinks like someone has their RGB levels badly adjusted the whole time. Also, skin tones look horribly unnatural in the 4k. Hate what they have done to my favorite movie, I'd rather watch my old laserdisc copy over this new 4k version.
Your comparison looks NOTHING like the colors actual 4K disc. What kind of SDR conversion are you using? It’s giving everything a terrible teal overcast that just shouldn’t be there.
Of course, mine is horrible but yours on your TV is perfect. Thanks Travis 😉 !!
Damn the 4K is ugly. I rather watch it on a VHS.
Whoever had this idea to make 4k version with so much blue color, should be fired immediately. I'll stick to original Blu Ray
I have the 2009 DVD and that version is way better without the colored tints.
Está Mejor 🧐 la edición 2013 colores más reales 😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
El 4k Muy azuloso y saturado de colores 🤨
Some parts look better while most look bad
@1:42 I like that you can't really see his eyes now, makes him more scarier.
Batman is blue and there's nothing we can do.
The old Blu-ray is better.
Tim Burton might be disappointed with the 4K Ultra HD version...
A lot details disappear with all that black.
im with the Blu-Ray version, more original.
Whoever was in charge of the 4K color grade should've been fired. The teal / blue is so heavily offensive I don't know how it was ever approved. I'm sure Tim Burton wouldn't have. Awful awful. If a new 4K is released I'm going to throw this into a nice orange / red fire.
Outstanding
Shame that the restoration itself is good but the added teal brings it down.
Roger Pratt and Stefan Czapsky do not approve...
4k looks terrible. I think most of the comments are from people that just want to have something that says 4k, but really doesn't make a difference in fidelity. The color grading looks awful. It's like the people behind making the 4K edition never heard of going back to take a look at the color grading of the original film. That's what 4K transfers should be, a faithful reproduction of the original theatrical release source material. Even if the negatives turned to dust, there are plenty of still from the film that was distributed in various forms. They just said, make it have the modern color grading and applied it to the entire movie and called it a day. This was definitely not done scene by scene. As for the sound, at the very least they should have given the option of having the one that they had on the Blu-ray version. They didn't have anything to do other than timing and adding it as an additional track. This was a lost opportunity.
Woww impressive thanks 🥰
The saturated blue, applied like a paint brush that is out of control, looks terrible.
I don't understand why everything is crying about the new color grade its more true to the original theatrical release they only brighten up Batman 1989 & Batman Returns for the VHS & Lazerdisc release since the crt tvs back then wouldn't work well with the original darker look. The dvd release and 2009 Blu-Ray just followed suit with the VHS & Lazerdisc brighter version. I do agree they should of kept the original audio but other then that i love the new Blu-Ray HDR look to Batman 1989 & Batman Returns basically how those movies were intended to look like originally