The SECRET Behind the REAL Moe Greene...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ย. 2023
- What THEY DON'T Tell You about Michael Corleone's Meeting with Moe Greene....
This might be one of the most important scenes in the entire Godfather trilogy, Yet there are so many hidden details that most people, no matter how many times they watch, never seem to notice. This meeting has so much significance and symbolism that defines the events of the rest of the trilogy.
And to be honest at first glance, they aren't very obvious.
In one of the most important scenes in the godfather, this guy completely steals the show.
He’s only really in one scene, yet his presence lingers on for the rest of the trilogy.
When we meet Moe Greene he seems like a “fun guy”, you know, you saw how he came with all handshakes, smiling, joking around, and to be honest, just being a great host, taking care of everybody and saying all the right things. exactly what you would expect from a flamboyant casino owner.
In reality, beneath that polished and "gentlemanly" exterior, hid his true nature, his real identity. But since we only get to actually watch Moe interact with the family, you miss out on a lot of important context.
To really give you the full picture and continue from our previous episode, to really understand Moe and the situation the family were put in, there are some hidden details you need to know.
In this video we will be uncovering everything you never knew about Moe Greene but also, his real life counterpart, Bugsy Siegel, and that’s going to be its own insane roller coaster ride. as well as something that even all these years later, I still can not believe…
This is going to be intense, so strap in.
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Can we have Luca Brasi next?
I would like to see one done about Hyman Roth ( Meier Lansky) Roth seemed as though who knew much more than he let on, and was getting ready to turn on Michael in the very near future.
“I TALKED TO BARZINI” and that was the end of Moe as we knew him.
He even tried to change his voice just to rub it in lol
It was at that moment Moe Green F’d up
As if Michael didn’t already know that…
@@robertbusek30most likely, but he could have had plausible deniability.. Hey Barzini is talking to me..
Him admitting it and bragging about it was his real doom
It's possible that Moe was in on Barzini's coup against the Corleones
As mentioned, MG really only had this one scene, but he was so powerful in it. Volatile and emotional vs. Michael's ice-cold seriousness. It's about 50 years too late now, but I do wish there were more scenes with Moe Greene; he radiated such a dangerous charisma here. He simply misread the Corleone family's power, but so did everybody at this point in the story.
You sir, cannot come to the chat and talk about a man like Moe Greene LIKE THAT!
@@heyitsvos 😆😁😄👍🫵
@@heyitsvos You're my brother, and I love you...but don't ever take sides against the family again. EVER.👁👁
Which is EXACTLY what Vito and Michael WANTED everyone to believe.
@@heyitsvosrelax the chef cooked for him special ,the dancers will kick your tongues out and your credit is good.....
Pacino’s eyes did all the acting here:
1) Michael edged Moe to confirm whether the other families are actually undermining the Corleone family.
2) Michael came to protect his brother and get him back.
3) Michael came to do business and determine whether Moe is supportive of the Corleone family.
Roth and Greene were Jewish gangsters. This point is mentioned more than once in Godfather II. The war between the Corleones and the other families in NY would not involve Roth. Roth was more of a business partner of the Mafia as a whole, not a war time ally of any particular family. I think one of Greene's remarks to Michael shows that. He says something like "The Corleone family doesn't even have that kind of muscle anymore". Greene is close to Roth. Would he say that to Michael if Roth and Vito were allies? I don't think so. That's the kind of thing you say when you aren't on anyone's side, you're neutral. I think Greene's mistake wasn't in indulging his ego, although that didn't help. It was the same mistake everyone else made- he underestimated Michael. The truth was that the Corleones DID have that kind of muscle. Greene, like Tessio, made what was superficially the smart move. He bet against Michael. I think Greene hesitated before leaving the meeting with Michael because he thought that maybe Michael didn't actually have full authority to represent the Corleones. Fredo make it sound that way. As soon as Tom confirmed Michael was in charge, Greene left. By the way, that's yet another indication of how useless Fredo is. He didn't even know what was going on in his own family.
"Fredo, you're my older brother and I love you. But don't Ever take sides with anyone against the family, again." -Michael Corleone.
Sure he underestimated Michael but evidently Fredo did as well.
Great post
Nice analysis and I really don't disagree with anything that you said, but I think you complicate things too much.
Poor financial performance can get any person fired in a regular company. Stealing money from your investors will get you in even more trouble. Insulting your investors even more so.
Moe Greene's behavior could have gotten him killed in a regular street gang beef. Behave like he did against a major Mafia family, even if it is weakened, is playing with death.
The crazy thing is that Moe Green could have just sold his shares to the Corleones and moved far, far away. But his ego wouldn't let him do that. Then he revealed his thinking directly to Corelone and indicated that he wanted to do business with the other mob families.
Upon top of that defended his decision to hit Fredo, who was not only the elder brother of Michael, but also a made man.
Moe Green might as well have shot himself in the head. He was a dead man walking.
@thabomuso2575 I agree, if I was Moe, I would have apologized to Michael and put together an offer that would have allowed him to live.
He overplayed his hand and took it personally....two great lessons from this wonderful movie.
I never liked Moe Green. However gamblers couldn't get drinks because Fredo was ... two cocktail waitresses at at a time! Moe had to keep him in line!
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I heard that he made his bones when you were going out with cheerleaders!
Yeah. Fredo was indeed fuckin two at the same time. He was giving them his cocktail.
If Moe had been smart about "keeping Fredo in line," instead of slapping him up, thus insulting the entire Corleon Family, Moe would have contacted the Don and asked him to deal with Fredo.
He straighten Michael's brother out ???
If you can get a person angry like Mike did to Moe, they will often tell you what they really are thinking.
Two key lessons here: Never underestimate your opponent, if you do you will become a captive of him-- Sun Tzu. Being disrespectful and somewhat dismissive of Michael, even telling him about Barzini was quite foolish to say the least.
Lesson two: Pride; one of the seven deadly sins. Moe Greene unfortunately engaged in both carelessly..and it did cost him everything. Spot on CM.
Moe Greene had already made deals with Barzini, all he had to do was agree to whatever Michael wanted and wait for him to get killed. He didn't want to eat sh*t, ego got the better of him and that got him dead. Great video from a great channel!
Moe Green was a great character
Remember that he "tawked" to Barzini.
Rumor has it them gamblers are still waiting for their drinks. 😂😂😂
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Yea. The Bugsy Siegel assassination most likely had nothing to do with the Flamingo or the mafia. Its a well known fact that Bugsy was a wife beater. His and Virginia Hill's relationship was no different. He beat her ass up bloody on the regular. A lesser known fact is that her brother was a first lieutenant WW2 bonafide war hero who single handedly killed more Japanese soldiers than cancer. A lesser known fact is that one week before the murder dude walked into a club right up to bugsy and calmly and clearly threatened his life over the domestic battery endured by his sister. Strangely enough exactly 1 week and a freshly beat up Virginia Hill later a lone shooter armed with a US army issued M1 carbine rifle strolled right into Her back yard and fired shots through a back window instantly killing Bugsy. In cases like this the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
The Japs don't get cancer. Well before the nuclear meltdown
Interesting. I never knew that. Do you know if her brother was a suspect at the time?
@@JamesRDavenport Yes. He was definitely a suspect. The Los Angeles/Beverly Hills police and the FBI knew this whole story right away. I'm guessing they all knew he did it but just kinda let it go. The murder happened in 1947. Dude was a freshly minted war hero. His chest literally covered in medals all less than 5 years old. Busy on the other hand was a well known asshole mafia gangster/multiple murder suspect/Thief/woman beating general sack of shit. Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as law enforcement was concerned. Plus even if the brother was arrested and tried your talking first degree manslaughter at best.
Thanks for sharing! Do you have any suggestions on books about Siegel?
That sounds like the best explanation for the unsolved murder of Bugsy Siegel. To this day the Beverly Hills Police Dept never charged anyone with the killing
As a Bostonian, I could always tell that Moe Greene had a familiar accent - now I know he’s from around the way!
Thats right you can't hide that BOSTON accent
I always loved the way he said, “ you think I’m skimming off the top!?”
The explanation on how Michael used that scene to expose Moe Greene. This movie really is exceptionally written and cast.
Learned a lot of information about how to handle a situation. Looking for the next step.
I was driving when you uploaded new video, I was rushed to home to watch it. You convert the Godfather from an iconic movie to a life lesson. Love your work mate. 💀💀
People were already treating the Godfather as a life lesson decades before this channel was founded, as Tom Hanks' character in "You've Got Mail" put it, "The Godfather is the I Ching. The Godfather is the sum of all wisdom. The Godfather is the answer to any question."
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As a part of framing this meeting I think you left out an important piece. The meeting was scheduled. Moe wasn't there as an insult to the Corleone Family and Michael in particular. He did that because he thought he could, and to show Michael that MG was the big dog in Vegas, not Michael. MG makes it clear during the meeting that he believed he was in the position of power and with Barzini's backing, he was and would remain the king of Vegas.
" you straightened my brother out....."
Thanks for the amazing video ❤
You've Been asking for it, so here it is🔥🍿
It's a Moe Greene Special if you know what I mean... 👀
In this video we get into everything YOU wanted to know about your favourite flamboyant casino owner, Moe Greene 🎲
But that's NOT all..
We will be uncovering the secret behind his real life counterpart, Bugsy Siegel, and that’s going to be its own insane roller coaster ride. As well as something that even all these years later, I still can not believe…
Enjoy 🌹
5:55 What they don't tell you about Bugsy | The Mystery of Bugsy Siegel
12:30 Lessons
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Unacceptable 😂
Any time I make a wrong choice, or in any situation requiring an excuse, I just yell "IT WAS BARZINI!" 😃
Me looking over my history of bad decisions: “I didn’t know until today that it was Barzini all along…”
Of course it was guys, because Tattalia was a pimp and never could've outfought you.
Also, don't forget that whoever comes to you with the meeting is the traitor.
Thank you for this video which made us like Moe Greene and his real charactor as well. Great show. 🥀🥀🥀
You failed to point out that Lansky, openly offered, to cover Bugsy’s losses, to keep him alive, at the Havana Conference. To the point he was using his ‘veto’ to stop it. Regardless, it wasn’t the $$$, according to experts, it was Lucky who convinced Lansky, that Bugsy wasn’t a ‘friend of ours’. In other words, he was stealing and you don’t steal from your friends. Hence Lansky, retracted his ‘veto’.
Tremendous video, I love this channel for creating these back stories and explaining wisdom at the same time🤌
I would love to see the comparisons between "The Godfather" and "Casino" as both involved the skim.
Moe Greene wasn't skimming. He was just unlucky.
Al Neri didn’t have any lines that I recall but he still was a good actor because I remember him even though he was a background guy / bodyguard. Just a little above an extra from a casting standpoint maybe is the right way to explain.
Deleted scene showed his worth
@@johnotoole5786 ill have to check
Your editing is amazing!
the actor that played moe green was great...he was funny in cannon ball and in wedding planner...
He also played Jo’s dad in “The Facts of Life.”
He was in Get Shorty too
So excited by this !! very invested in the history of jewish mafia ❤❤ can you please share the soundtrack?
"You, goddamn, guineas really make me laugh."
When he said "I talked to Barzini" James Earl Jones voice was dubbed in.
When Moe let it be known I talked with Barzini , that was the dumbest thing to do but when you’re emotional you make mistakes.
The bugs part of the video is legit interesting
Moe signed his death warrant when he said the Corleone family is finished they're getting chased out of New York by the other Don's. That was an insult to Michael and Moe was basically saying the Corleone family was in the trash.
Nice video but When is the Luca Brasi video coming out
How real can you get, you hire real gangstas to play gangstas in movies.
Moe greens mistake was saying to Michael that he has talked to barzini
Always wondered about the contractors scamming Ben Siegel, I mean, the balls on those guys
Scary shit
Moe had a business to run, sometimes you gotta kick ass to make it run right. He had to straighten Fredo out.
Yeah but he didn't kick the contractors ass out who was scamming him during the construction of the hotel.
Fascinating scholarship on the true bio and history here.
Moe was a smart guy, he was in a good position. Moe picked the wrong boss, maybe he just didn’t like the Corleone family and believed they were going being downsized. He bet on the wrong horse and lost.
Thanks
Nice
What song is playing at the start?
Alex Rocco’s speech coach in LA, was none other than the West End’s own Leonard Nimoy.
The names Moe and Greene were borrowed from actual mobster(s) from Cleveland.
His name is Ben. There's no need for disrespect.
Moe is like senator geary...all nice on the outside corrupt on the inside...has no respect for micueal
I’ll always remember Alex Rocco for this role and the voice of Roger Meyers Jr. on The Simpsons.
“Here’s a witty rejoinder for ya!”
The Godfather is like The Exorcist: technically fiction, but really just a compilation of true accounts.
"I knew Moe,I knew he was head strong, talking loud saying stupid things, so when he turned up dead - I let it go" Roth.
“Mike you don’t talk to a man like Moe Green that way!
Fredo you’re my brotha…”
Can you make a video on racco lampone.
We already do.
Al Neri: The SECRET Behind Michael Corleone's RUTHLESS Luca Brasi…
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It’s a very interesting story 👀
imagine living in a world with no crime and crooked people
Imagine building a hotel/casino in Las vegas for six million dollars! Shows you how much they devalue the money
Look at Michael Corleone how cool and collective he was when Moe Green tried to instigate him by saying mean words to him of utter disregard. Don Vito Corleone in fact, before the said appointment with Moe Green, told Michael not to mention anything except business. Michael knew what type of a man Moe was so, he only mentioned about the business deal in which obviously, Michael knew, Moe wasn't interested. Moe was left therefore, with no other option than to leave duly hiding the disappointment of losing the verbal duel with Michael.
So hyman Roth is Meyer lansky and moe green is bugsy siegel...
Make a video on how to build a empire and become a mob boss
Fredo is having such a great time he did not care about getting smacked around
In the book Moe Green is killed before the heads of the other 4 families. That's how Al Neri is able to kill both him and Barzini. In the movie, an unknown assassin kills Moe, so they can show him dying on the same day as the other bosses.
I like your videos but this one was basically a Bugsy Segal mini doc. I get what you was getting at
I had grown up in Somerville mass and Alex was part of the winter hill gang I would see him around when I was a kid. And the reason he left mass was he was standing in front of a bar called pal Joey's and someone tried to shoot him and missed by inches I think he left the state fast.
I'm Moe Greene..great line of the God Father..you ginnies came here...I'll buy you out
Moe Greene made his bones when you were going out with cheerleaders.
It ain’t no secret it didn’t take a genius to realize that Mo Green was loosely based on Bugsy Seigal even up to the way he was killed
I had a feeling that moe was based on bugsy Siegel. And roth as lansky
In the movie, when Roth talks to Michel about Moe Greene, in terms of age and the character chosen for Mo, there was not a good fit.
Fredo pulled a Sonny when he questioned Michael’s decision in front of Moe.
Moe Greene never met me…I was making my bones AND going out with cheer leaders…
Bugsy was a show businessman apart from other things, he had acquaintance with Virginia Hill who was brought by the mafia bosses, the later as an overseer. Bugsy's interaction with the associates of Hill costed him of his life. Don Michael Corleone knew about the frequent visits of Bugsy to Swiss Bank in Switzerland in connection with his normal business. Bugsy always used to carry cash in a carpet bag instead of using bankers cheques.
He was blamed of the one time embezzlement of Flamingo Hotel Project funds which he had in fact, replenished with his personal funds immediately.
Hill's associates tipped off this information casually to mafia bosses, who were rather keen on finishing the project early. Not knowing that it would take some more time they thought the delay was due to the extravagance of Bugsy.
Charles overheard Bugsy saying, "That's my money" and believed it to be so. However, Bugsy was wrongly whacked by the greedy mobsters for only one time embezzlement and leaving behind the habitual embezzlers of the project Scot-Free.
MOE GREENE WAS FRIENDS WITH BUDDY MCLEAN FROM SOMERSVILLE MASS HE WAS THERE WHEN THE BOSTON GANG WAR STARTED IN THE 1960s He was there when George McLaughlin was beat up and ended up in the hospital This guys real name is ALEX Petricone a real hood in real life
I wonder if Ken Rosenberg from GTA Vice City and GTA San Andreas was inspired from Moe Green?
Moe was way to prideful and way over his head.
He was the guy who believed that his brain was the unbeatable.
Turn out, you don’t talk to a man like Michael Corleone LIKE THAT!!!
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How are there 31k views but only 93 comments?
He was more than 1 scene....
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I wish it went deeper and as recommended, used fewer words. Everything was very obvious to me and I think to more people than you realize. I'll watch 1 more to see if I missed anything before deciding.
The dangerous associations that comes with consequences.
Sounds like Fredo was living the life in Vegas banging cocktail waitresses two at a time , as Carmine, Jr likewise was in Miami fixing Wet T-shirt Contests. Interesting parallels between the two in their respective families, as both were direct Kin to powerful bosses of a Family but seen as kind of the less respected black sheep. For example: Tony Soprano referred to Carmine, Jr as “Brainless the 2nd” and Michael told Tom that Fredo was “Weak, and Stupid.” Both were kind of sent out of sight/out of mind for a portion of the Sagas. However, Carmine, Jr was at least somewhat respected and useful as a mediator in times of discord. And perhaps he wasn’t as dumb as he let on, at least having the self awareness to see where seeking the throne would eventually end.
I talk to barzini
Is The Godfather based on a real Don and Family?
Roth use business to take it personal with Mike about the moe Greene death
Still to this day that Financial aspect of why Bugsy was killed doesn't add up. Them killing him because he went to L.A. and got popular and a little bigger and more important makes more sense.
I think it has much more to do with him and Virginia hill stealing mob funds than anything
I have a friend who actually believes mo was a real person 😂
Your friend probably thinks the orangutan was a good president and still is president. 😂
Never liked Moe Green but you basically telling me the dude was a psychopath yet if Moe Green was Psycho than Mike was what ? a monster ? Lol
Nothing personal its strictly business in the world of mafia simple
I personally think the actor playing the roll of moe green was not cast properly, from Roth telling Mikel that him and moe green were running molasses and moe telling Mikel he was chasing cheer leaders he was already a we’ll establish gangster, the actor looks too young. They should have cast an older actor!
Aslo if you readthe excellent book, fredo did not wnat mike to come out to vegas . His jealousy was made apparent there and exacerbated . Fredo knew he s be a low man on the totem pole very soon and lose his playground . Fredo needed moe. He mentored hima nd trianedhim although he never reapected fredo really. Nobody did for real.
Moe was both thieveing and losing money in business . He was saying f michael corleone . Yep. All of the families had some money in moe' s casinos as well . Moe wanted ot paly them all off each ither . He d stolen ALOT ok and was barely afloat then. He lost huge money and borrowed and borrowed
What do You think was Moe Greene's Biggest mistake? 💭
I kinda liked moe Greene. But he was a 2 timer going to other families discussing business. You don't do that sht.
Enough.
There was a real Mo. His last name wasn't Green
2 guys both Lansky lieutenants who ran Casinos in Vegas Moe Sedway and Gus Greenbaum.
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He probably had it common. And he probably would’ve rolled over and been a rat so more than likely they had no choice. It’s a terrible lifestyle and a very dangerous one.
Being a fan of gangsta movies, when I went to Vegas several years ago, I stayed at the Flamengo Hotel and Casino. I was unimpressed, its old and outdated, never staying there again.
Michael was way worse than Moe Green .....Moe was an innocent man
I wouldn't say innocent...
He made his bones while Michael was dating cheerleaders. That doesn’t happen if you’re innocent.
I m really sick and tired of people who have obviously so much time on their hand to analyze fictional character that may have or have not has resemblance to actual personality that now after 50 years discuss and analyze the relationship between characters in a film they had nothing to do with making it and probably did not see it when it first came out. Get a life and leave Moe Greene alone.
Sounds like you need to get a life. The irony.