I remember Joanne Lees treatment by the media was absolutely horrendous, just vile. This happened in the era of total trash tabloid reporting and they absolutely crucified her.
@@robbieoneil5945 Exactly! That poor woman didn't only have her newborn baby killed in what we can only imagine was an awful death... But she was jailed, away from her husband and other children. Her marriage didn't survive and I'm sure there's still people who think she did it. I saw her interviewed on SBS a few years back by painter/comedian Anh Do whilst he painted her portrait. She seemed happy and appeared to be a lovely person. I think I'd be so bitter and twisted if I went through what she did.
I have family who worked that case, and can tell you that there is a lot the media never told about this case. A lot of the negative media surrounding Lees wasn't unwarranted, especially knowing the lies and conflicting stories she told while underoath, in the early investigation, and to the media. Chamberlain's treatment was not fair at all, unfortunately at the time her daughter was killed idiot tourists were horrendous with feeding dingoes around the area - this poor baby being taken would've happened sooner or later. Plus it's not an isolated incident, there have been many cases of dingoes trying to take toddlers and babies. At one school camp in Alice Springs we even had dingoes sniffing around the tents in the middle of the night.
I would definitely agree if our justice system never made mistakes. Sadly, the death penalty would cause many innocents to be murdered by the state, in our name.
@@andreasplosky8516 Granddad was a prison officer overseas for 40 years and hated signing execution orders for murderers and drug smugglers. He told me prison is rehabilitative.
They have failed to mention Dupas attended Larundal mental health facility while a teenager. Worth looking into. It was in the grounds of Mont Park mental facility, the entry of which is at the end of Waiora Rd, McLeod West.
I still believe to this day that dingoes ate Peter's dead body or Bradley chopped him up and fed him to the dingoes cause how TF does he all go completely missing.
@@theeastwood-youngfamily It's plausible. I bet if the stupid coppers got the Aboriginal trackers involved early, they would've found some trace of him. Murdoch probably had a couple of holes already dug, so he may have been dropped in one soon after Lee's disappeared from his truck. Still too many questions left unanswered. I feel so sorry for his family not knowing where their loved one is.
There's also over 80,000 abandoned mine shafts in Australia. A lot in the area where he went missing, he would've known about a lot of them so I always thought that could be a possibility too. I agree that it well could've been dingoes, but I think some bones/skull would've turned up in the extensive searches for Peter Falconios remains. As you mentioned, if only the police had gotten Aboriginal trackers involved from the get go this case may well have had a different outcome.
My Aunty lives in Salisbury North. I visit her and it creeped me out when I learnt about the bodies in the barrel story. I heard they tore down the house..where was it exactly? What's the name of the nursing home..I pass by Waterloo Cnr Rd everytime I visit her. 😮
Re Joanna Lees - her manner indicates she may have toxic shame & feels to blame for what happened that night. People with toxic shame always feel they are at fault for everything… toxic shame is hard to recognise, especially by the person who has it. Treatment/therapy is essential.
@@DwDiablo3 In the case of a wrongful conviction the argument could be made that the Australian sentencing guidelines and appeals process is far more effective than double jeopardy. No justice system is perfect of course.
They don't all have enough "radar". I have noticed this, amongst women I know. They can be blind to what is really happening until it's too late. Sometimes the expert manipulation ability of a person is greater than the level of "radar" in the other. The manipulator seeks out the unaware.
Am I the only one that even as a child, I couldn't quite believe Joanne Lees story? It just never sat right with me, can't help feeling there was something she wasn't saying 🤔
@@TheTrueCrimeChannel I really wish I had an answer, wish I knew 🤷♀️ everytime I saw her on the news I just couldn't shake the feeling she was lying, not even sure what about but to this day this one bugs me
No, you're not the only one. 80% of people thought she was hiding something. She appeared fake, untruthful, dodgy and plain odd. She played all innocent, but I feel she loved the attention.
He matches the photo fit very closely. Secondly, Ivan Milat was already convicted and in jail since 1994. Thirdly, DNA evidence does not lie. He also owned the exact vehicle she described, etc etc etc...
@@GTAFranchise69 how many people had these kind of cars ???? also you didnt mention that the truck driver who picked her up also said he saw a car with 3 or 4 people in it a red car, I also have a massive problem with the way she conducted herself with the media, massive red flag there and also she said she would not do any media deals for money and bang she does one for half a million, the man in jail maybe he is innocent in this case, theres a lot more to this case then meets the eye
I think the photo fit is darker because Joanne saw him at night. Whatever we think of her and her personality, the dna convicted Murdoch plus he had sa and drug dealing charges against him already so he was by no means a sweetheart lol. Ivan Milan was more an east coast murderer anyway. I think he could have dumped Peter’s body anywhere from the crime scene to Broome.
@@miriam2909 DNA there is another item which I think is corrupt, the police had no proof it was him yeah fair enough cctv but why did they sit on it for 19 days, saying this just how many people uses the same car and got petrol during the days before the murder up till after the murder, if they bought drugs from him this is where maybe the dna was done, theres only 1 way to deal with all this she takes a lie detector test along with an eye test they have these days soon sort this out then
As for the Peter F case, I do wonder if this is a scapegoat. Not sure it was proven correctly. Sure he is a disgusting peace of work, but guilty of this, not so sure !
Was it ever detailed what Joanne was wearing that night her and Peter got attacked? as I always wondered if what she wore may have provoked the killer to target her and Peter
That may have been true a long time ago but now we have let so many people in from certain countries/religions who don't believe in that...I'm afraid now we have to find out why women in certain regions of the world have to be covered up for their own safety @fionabryant7923
I remember Joanne Lees treatment by the media was absolutely horrendous, just vile. This happened in the era of total trash tabloid reporting and they absolutely crucified her.
Horrible
@elenawilliams32, Yes, I have to agree with You there, just look at how they treated Lindy Chamberlain.
@@robbieoneil5945 Exactly! That poor woman didn't only have her newborn baby killed in what we can only imagine was an awful death... But she was jailed, away from her husband and other children. Her marriage didn't survive and I'm sure there's still people who think she did it. I saw her interviewed on SBS a few years back by painter/comedian Anh Do whilst he painted her portrait. She seemed happy and appeared to be a lovely person. I think I'd be so bitter and twisted if I went through what she did.
When did that 'era' finish? It didn't
I have family who worked that case, and can tell you that there is a lot the media never told about this case. A lot of the negative media surrounding Lees wasn't unwarranted, especially knowing the lies and conflicting stories she told while underoath, in the early investigation, and to the media.
Chamberlain's treatment was not fair at all, unfortunately at the time her daughter was killed idiot tourists were horrendous with feeding dingoes around the area - this poor baby being taken would've happened sooner or later. Plus it's not an isolated incident, there have been many cases of dingoes trying to take toddlers and babies. At one school camp in Alice Springs we even had dingoes sniffing around the tents in the middle of the night.
If you hear screaming or unusual noise ...please call the police!
Absolutely
Probably not, if you live in the USA
“Just a domestic argument” This was the attitude of the investigators
Yep...
I remember the Falconio case well, I was in Alice Springs at the time...
How bad would you feel looking like the killer!🤢
Yep!
Great video😊😊😊😊
Thanks for watching
The suburbs of northern Adelaide aka Spider Rock is a scary place
It seems like it!
If people are looking for trouble don’t come to Masterton , New Zealand. Or do come.
@@FKTHESYSTEM063 ...will we find trouble there, or not?,...and what's the present going rate for having dirty deeds done dere in Masterton?
@@mjonhouston depends who you have in mind 🤣
,due to rising costs dirty deeds r no longer done dirt cheap
Hard to believe people do these things eh!
100%
Dupas = Pure Evil
Absolutely
t's time to bring back the "Death Penalty"!
I don't reckon Murdoch did it...
I would definitely agree if our justice system never made mistakes.
Sadly, the death penalty would cause many innocents to be murdered by the state, in our name.
@@andreasplosky8516 Granddad was a prison officer overseas for 40 years and hated signing execution orders for murderers and drug smugglers. He told me prison is rehabilitative.
For antifa terrorists?
@@dannygayler3164 and lower yourself to their level
What about the Family Murders, not mentioed because of the people involved were elite members of society.
They have failed to mention Dupas attended Larundal mental health facility while a teenager. Worth looking into. It was in the grounds of Mont Park mental facility, the entry of which is at the end of Waiora Rd, McLeod West.
Please add nathanyahu & many other country leaders on your most wanted list of Criminals
Hamas?
I still believe to this day that dingoes ate Peter's dead body or Bradley chopped him up and fed him to the dingoes cause how TF does he all go completely missing.
Interesting!
I’d agree with that inference.
@@theeastwood-youngfamily It's plausible. I bet if the stupid coppers got the Aboriginal trackers involved early, they would've found some trace of him. Murdoch probably had a couple of holes already dug, so he may have been dropped in one soon after Lee's disappeared from his truck.
Still too many questions left unanswered.
I feel so sorry for his family not knowing where their loved one is.
You must not have been to the northern territory to see how huge and vast the area is. He literally could of been put anywhere
There's also over 80,000 abandoned mine shafts in Australia. A lot in the area where he went missing, he would've known about a lot of them so I always thought that could be a possibility too. I agree that it well could've been dingoes, but I think some bones/skull would've turned up in the extensive searches for Peter Falconios remains. As you mentioned, if only the police had gotten Aboriginal trackers involved from the get go this case may well have had a different outcome.
How was this guy still in society?! 😢
because it's Australia
my MOTHER, GODMOTHER & GRANDPARENTS are in that cemetery
Do you visit them often?
I live in Salisbury North, and I find it weird that they knocked down the house to build a nursing home.
Interesting!
My Aunty lives in Salisbury North. I visit her and it creeped me out when I learnt about the bodies in the barrel story.
I heard they tore down the house..where was it exactly? What's the name of the nursing home..I pass by Waterloo Cnr Rd everytime I visit her. 😮
Scary part too is one of the guy has been released recently I believe?! Hope he didn't go back to Salisbury Nth or around there. 😮
I think with lees, the effects of shock and trauma can make you appear blank and emotionless theres not always drama
Re Joanna Lees - her manner indicates she may have toxic shame & feels to blame for what happened that night. People with toxic shame always feel they are at fault for everything… toxic shame is hard to recognise, especially by the person who has it. Treatment/therapy is essential.
How couldDupas be trialed AGAIN after the case was squashed in court? is there no Double Jeopardy laws in Australia?
No. Thankfully double jeopardy does not exist within the Australian Justice system.
@@jadeybaby007 that could be a bad thing incase of wrongful conviction couldnt it?
@@DwDiablo3 In the case of a wrongful conviction the argument could be made that the Australian sentencing guidelines and appeals process is far more effective than double jeopardy.
No justice system is perfect of course.
Interesting point!
We did have double jeopardy in Australia. The laws regarding it were changed many years ago
The forensics in the joanna lees case were headed by joy kohl who single handedly stuffed up the lindy Chamberlain case
Crikey!
I had that exact same diary 🙂
Mark Haydon has just been recently released from prison having served his time and is currently on parole.
Oh wow!
Yep living the free life ...not cool
This show scared me when I was a kid in the 80s
What happens to womans intuition in these tragedies? I mean this monster had a girlfriend. 😢.
The fact that he was convicted for rape and a woman wanted him. Says all I need to know about that woman !!
He was very manipulative
They don't all have enough "radar". I have noticed this, amongst women I know. They can be blind to what is really happening until it's too late. Sometimes the expert manipulation ability of a person is greater than the level of "radar" in the other. The manipulator seeks out the unaware.
We definitely have it but sometimes people are very very cunning "clever". Even the most switched on of humans can be blinded by a master manipulator.
Psychopaths can convince anyone into thinking whatever TF they want them to think hence why they're psychopaths.
Am I the only one that even as a child, I couldn't quite believe Joanne Lees story? It just never sat right with me, can't help feeling there was something she wasn't saying 🤔
What do you thinks the truth?
@@TheTrueCrimeChannel I really wish I had an answer, wish I knew 🤷♀️ everytime I saw her on the news I just couldn't shake the feeling she was lying, not even sure what about but to this day this one bugs me
Ikr, something about when she took off into the desert the dog couldn't find/smell her!?!?! Bit suss imo
I agree with you
No, you're not the only one. 80% of people thought she was hiding something. She appeared fake, untruthful, dodgy and plain odd. She played all innocent, but I feel she loved the attention.
Dupas looks like a middle-aged woman
Interesting
😂 Yes, he does 😂!
@@magsrankin6166 😂
Oh thanks for that 🤮
@@jennifermead1468 😆
Evil eyes 👀
First 1 to give thumbs up,an First 1 to comment ❤ it.
Given the seriousness of this video I guess being the first is important to some
Thanks for watching
Oh wow!!!
Well done Joanne, you've won a dinner date with me at Snowtown..😂
@@dawgwithabone6826 That would be lovely would it be with John bunting?
there were scattered all over
I always thought the Murderer for the last one was Ivan Mallat her description doesn't even match who they convicted?
He matches the photo fit very closely. Secondly, Ivan Milat was already convicted and in jail since 1994. Thirdly, DNA evidence does not lie. He also owned the exact vehicle she described, etc etc etc...
@@GTAFranchise69 how many people had these kind of cars ???? also you didnt mention that the truck driver who picked her up also said he saw a car with 3 or 4 people in it a red car, I also have a massive problem with the way she conducted herself with the media, massive red flag there and also she said she would not do any media deals for money and bang she does one for half a million, the man in jail maybe he is innocent in this case, theres a lot more to this case then meets the eye
Interesting point!
I think the photo fit is darker because Joanne saw him at night. Whatever we think of her and her personality, the dna convicted Murdoch plus he had sa and drug dealing charges against him already so he was by no means a sweetheart lol. Ivan Milan was more an east coast murderer anyway. I think he could have dumped Peter’s body anywhere from the crime scene to Broome.
@@miriam2909 DNA there is another item which I think is corrupt, the police had no proof it was him yeah fair enough cctv but why did they sit on it for 19 days, saying this just how many people uses the same car and got petrol during the days before the murder up till after the murder, if they bought drugs from him this is where maybe the dna was done, theres only 1 way to deal with all this she takes a lie detector test along with an eye test they have these days soon sort this out then
Investigation. Investigator me sorry sorry me have to close off me going to make way for later my friends.
Poindexter? 😄
Lee's is highly suspect.
As for the Peter F case, I do wonder if this is a scapegoat. Not sure it was proven correctly. Sure he is a disgusting peace of work, but guilty of this, not so sure !
Interesting!
He's not a scapegoat, DNA proved it was him. Grow a brain.
dont agree
The DNA says it all
Tired of all the drama and the reporting . Bye
Why come here in the first place. Very weird.
Was it ever detailed what Joanne was wearing that night her and Peter got attacked? as I always wondered if what she wore may have provoked the killer to target her and Peter
Wake up!! It's not how the woman dresses, it's how the male reacts!
That may have been true a long time ago but now we have let so many people in from certain countries/religions who don't believe in that...I'm afraid now we have to find out why women in certain regions of the world have to be covered up for their own safety @fionabryant7923
@@serwombles8816 garbage. total bias to control womens every movement
Don't victim-blame, it's not her fault