I'm very happy that I was told very early on to learn japanese through the "dictionary form" first and learn politeness later, it's actually way more logical this way.
You have such helpful videos! I was just feeling behind in my studies because many programs and books (like Pimsleur audio lessons) almost always use the polite form. I get stuff like Pimsleur is designed more towards having a functional speaking ability when traveling, but it would definitely be better in building a stronger Japanese language foundation longterm if they taught the dictionary form first and then moved to the polite form from there. When I visit Japan, I feel like I won't have any clue what a person is saying if it's not in the polite form at this point 😅. Thanks for the help!
Found you the other day out of the blue and since then I have become a loyal audience. I wish I could have found you earlier but anyway never too late to learn it. You make the way of learning Japanese is much more interesting and enjoyable!
This last month I've been learning Japanese, and your content in combination with Tokini Andy is insane. It's crazy that I can learn something like this for free. ありがとうございま!
Yea! You can ! I won't say it's every university but its in enough schools for a major lol . I'm sure it you look up Japanese Majors in your country you should find at least 1 school
I'm going through your "Complete Genki Series (Lesson 1-12)" playlist and it has this video, as well as some other videos, twice. There's also one video that is hidden, pretty sure it's Lesson 4- because it jumped from 3 to 5
interesting to know that kids in japan learn in the more casual style and in lessons we usually start with the more polite forms. why don't people teach the base forms more?
They want you to be prepared at any stage of your learning to be able to talk japanese if you were to go to Japan, and the first time you'll speak in japanese will be with strangers so the polite form is the requirred form
@@matoikazamaki9522 Exactly! That’s why I think it’s very useful for Japanese learners to start with the ます form. Then, as you get better at Japanese, you earn the right to speak the casual (or 辞書形) form.
@@SonarHD structurally its better to learn casual first (its "base form", contextualizes verb usages inside of a sentence, prevents common misconceptions, etc etc), if you arent in a rush to get speaking out then it can be argued that learning keigo first can stunt you a bit but most textbooks are for classroom environments where speaking skills are developed alongside reading / grammar and thus polite is taught first Both are important to get good at, maybe equally so, but ofc depending on what you want out of the language the priority changes, and id say for most people, unless you need to speak right away after starting or need the language for business I would prefer to start with base form / casual
@@Trexrush1 The thing about learning the ます form, or 丁寧語, first is that it has two main benefits: First, the ます form is very easy to learn how to conjugate verbs with; and 2nd because it has a normal level of politeness (unlike 尊敬語 or 謙譲語, which are harder and more niche, if you will). As was mentioned earlier, most people you’ll speak to in Japanese are going to be strangers, so learning polite Japanese is ideal. Textbooks teach it since you’re probably going to be using them in a classroom environment. Imagine talking to your teacher using the plain form (Not a very Japanese thing to do, lol). Also, a lot of people learn Japanese for work, so it’s going to be more beneficial for them to start with 丁寧語. It just makes more sense to teach 丁寧語 first, unless you’re learning on your own. And even then, you’ll eventually want to either hire a teacher or find someone on HelloTalk to practice with. Wouldn’t it be better to be on the safe side and speak politely to them? 😊
This video helped me understand the language a lot better. Thank you so much Matt for this awesome video. I really appreciate your way of teaching and explaining. Looking forward to more such videos in the future!❤
Videos like this are great. Even though I pretty much already know the information, it's always a good refresher. And the numerous video game examples are a big help to embed it in your mind.
"Nanako, soto ga ame da! Sentakumono ha doushita?!" was the first thing popping my mind when seeing the thumbnail with the title, couldnt pick for a better 😂
Matt, there is a game i heard about called Noun town where you select a language you want to learn and the town gains colour as you learn what things are called . Might be worth checking out
There is yes, however from 8 on wards I released them as playlists rather than one video, sorry for the confusion! But all of the grammar is covered in Lesson 9 playlist th-cam.com/play/PLT12i1gB38HGCsy245MdF18Ad7SxpdOnQ.html
Being overly polite with someone can definitely create distance between the speaker and the listener. Often learners who learn polite speech only, end up sounding very distant sounding when trying to speak with friends if they use polite speech all the time. This is not to say you shouldn't use polite speech, however its important for learners to be aware that it can create distance. There is no misinformation here. Everything on this channel comes from my own experience and is also checked by native Japanese speakers. Being polite doesnt always mean you're being fake, however it CAN be used to create that distance from the speaker and listener. Think about it. Even in English it can function the same way :) Japanese native extra note (from Game Gengo team): in Japanese polite speech can express polteness but also distance. Casual speech can express closeness, but can also be rude sometimes when used in the wrong situation. Its alllll about the relation with who youre speaking with
I'm very happy that I was told very early on to learn japanese through the "dictionary form" first and learn politeness later, it's actually way more logical this way.
You have such helpful videos! I was just feeling behind in my studies because many programs and books (like Pimsleur audio lessons) almost always use the polite form. I get stuff like Pimsleur is designed more towards having a functional speaking ability when traveling, but it would definitely be better in building a stronger Japanese language foundation longterm if they taught the dictionary form first and then moved to the polite form from there.
When I visit Japan, I feel like I won't have any clue what a person is saying if it's not in the polite form at this point 😅. Thanks for the help!
Found you the other day out of the blue and since then I have become a loyal audience. I wish I could have found you earlier but anyway never too late to learn it. You make the way of learning Japanese is much more interesting and enjoyable!
the game clips with highlighted subs are so helpful wish this were recced sooner
This video was sooooo helpful for Minna No Nihongo students… thank you so much Matt, you nailed this one too! そうだよ！
This last month I've been learning Japanese, and your content in combination with Tokini Andy is insane. It's crazy that I can learn something like this for free. ありがとうございま!
omg! lol i use a combination of them too for reviewing my class and studying. Japanese is my major they go great with my class
@@CookiesAreNoice bro what? You can major in Japanese? Is that for college or university? I’ve never heard of that but it sounds awesome.
Yea! You can ! I won't say it's every university but its in enough schools for a major lol . I'm sure it you look up Japanese Majors in your country you should find at least 1 school
Also, subscribed and followed. Overwhelmingly useful and helpful content like this is rare!
I'm going through your "Complete Genki Series (Lesson 1-12)" playlist and it has this video, as well as some other videos, twice. There's also one video that is hidden, pretty sure it's Lesson 4- because it jumped from 3 to 5
interesting to know that kids in japan learn in the more casual style and in lessons we usually start with the more polite forms. why don't people teach the base forms more?
They want you to be prepared at any stage of your learning to be able to talk japanese if you were to go to Japan, and the first time you'll speak in japanese will be with strangers so the polite form is the requirred form
@@matoikazamaki9522 Exactly!
That’s why I think it’s very useful for Japanese learners to start with the ます form. Then, as you get better at Japanese, you earn the right to speak the casual (or 辞書形) form.
@@SonarHD structurally its better to learn casual first (its "base form", contextualizes verb usages inside of a sentence, prevents common misconceptions, etc etc), if you arent in a rush to get speaking out then it can be argued that learning keigo first can stunt you a bit
but most textbooks are for classroom environments where speaking skills are developed alongside reading / grammar and thus polite is taught first
Both are important to get good at, maybe equally so, but ofc depending on what you want out of the language the priority changes, and id say for most people, unless you need to speak right away after starting or need the language for business I would prefer to start with base form / casual
@@Trexrush1 The thing about learning the ます form, or 丁寧語, first is that it has two main benefits: First, the ます form is very easy to learn how to conjugate verbs with; and 2nd because it has a normal level of politeness (unlike 尊敬語 or 謙譲語, which are harder and more niche, if you will).
As was mentioned earlier, most people you’ll speak to in Japanese are going to be strangers, so learning polite Japanese is ideal. Textbooks teach it since you’re probably going to be using them in a classroom environment. Imagine talking to your teacher using the plain form (Not a very Japanese thing to do, lol). Also, a lot of people learn Japanese for work, so it’s going to be more beneficial for them to start with 丁寧語.
It just makes more sense to teach 丁寧語 first, unless you’re learning on your own. And even then, you’ll eventually want to either hire a teacher or find someone on HelloTalk to practice with. Wouldn’t it be better to be on the safe side and speak politely to them? 😊
This video is great. Thanks for providing these for free! It’s such a great help
Finally fount this series when you just release lesson 7 been waiting for this
This video helped me understand the language a lot better. Thank you so much Matt for this awesome video. I really appreciate your way of teaching and explaining. Looking forward to more such videos in the future!❤
You are a great teacher! I love your videos, and I'm learning so much!
Tks!
Really helpful. Thank you! A video about the different verb conjugations would be very helpful!
Thanks a lot for the video. A japanese friend of mine told me I am too polite. This will help me to be friendly.
進歩してるよ。
I still can't believe he got Tom Cruise to collab on this with him, it's incredible
This was great! I have just started learning and have been learning the masu/desu form but this casual form seems to make more sense
Videos like this are great. Even though I pretty much already know the information, it's always a good refresher. And the numerous video game examples are a big help to embed it in your mind.
"Nanako, soto ga ame da! Sentakumono ha doushita?!"
was the first thing popping my mind when seeing the thumbnail with the title, couldnt pick for a better 😂
Dude you are incredible, thank you so much for what you do!!
Potential verb
たべ(る) removed and られる add= たべられる
I'm hearing that Tame a Bad Boy from KOF XIII in the background at the beginning there. 👀 Great taste in music!
Really really appreciate this. Thank you Matt 😁😁😁
Great video, any advice or resources for learning things via dictionary form given most guides and whatnot seem to prioritise the polite masu form?
Matt, there is a game i heard about called Noun town where you select a language you want to learn and the town gains colour as you learn what things are called . Might be worth checking out
Sugoi! Thank you for this video!
Thank you so much! Now I can play games in japanese
I can’t remember the last time I used いいえ. It’s always いやっ
Been waiting for this
Would "emergency situations" be an appropriate use of だ? Like in the example, "(There is a) fire!" 火事だ! Or "The thief!" 泥棒だ!
Absolutely! It would rather strange to be polite in those situations so its much better to be direct with だ！
thank for you Japanese dubbed Patrick.
Thanks
Hey Matt I have a question, are you doing this fulltime and how active is your discord community ? I might consider subscribing on your website
Leaving my like and comment, I'll watch later! :)
Idk i think as an introvert this is pretty intuitive
KONO DIO DA!
how the heck do you gather all these examples? you must have a pretty good memory for moments in stories
my goat
So for verbs that have a i ending would the negation be wanai instead of anai?
Is there a Genki 9?
There is yes, however from 8 on wards I released them as playlists rather than one video, sorry for the confusion! But all of the grammar is covered in Lesson 9 playlist th-cam.com/play/PLT12i1gB38HGCsy245MdF18Ad7SxpdOnQ.html
How do you shut up Adachi in Japanese?
俺だよ！
You’re Australian ???
Being polite isn't being fake. Don't spread misinformation.
Being overly polite with someone can definitely create distance between the speaker and the listener. Often learners who learn polite speech only, end up sounding very distant sounding when trying to speak with friends if they use polite speech all the time. This is not to say you shouldn't use polite speech, however its important for learners to be aware that it can create distance. There is no misinformation here. Everything on this channel comes from my own experience and is also checked by native Japanese speakers. Being polite doesnt always mean you're being fake, however it CAN be used to create that distance from the speaker and listener. Think about it. Even in English it can function the same way :)
Japanese native extra note (from Game Gengo team): in Japanese polite speech can express polteness but also distance. Casual speech can express closeness, but can also be rude sometimes when used in the wrong situation. Its alllll about the relation with who youre speaking with