Why social media tips for artists don't work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- Disclaimer: everything in the video is my own theory and my own experiences.
I am often asked about Twitter or Instagram, so I wanted to talk about why I felt like artists were too focused on following tips and tricks. And remember, it's never a good idea to use social media as your only source of validation! While the social media tricks work as a multiplier, I believe it's more important to focus on your personal growth.
00:00 Social media tips and tricks
02:01 Hypothetical examples
04:10 Finding your niche
05:55 Best way to grow
08:01 How I grew my first 1000 followers
Streamed on / pikat
Edit by @ScribClips - ตลก
I do not wish for internet fame, I simply wish to slip my art under the door every once in a while and some people go “ooo that’s cool”
FUCKIN SAME
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That's cause your viewpoint don't match their viewpoint to begin with. Their viewpoint is to make it a paying job, you are the opposite
@@nonamepasserbya6658 There are several viewpoints this video can apply to, not just those who are trying to make art their job.
Internet fame terrifies me lol that's what i want too
An artist that is so overlooked by alot of people is Oscar Martin. He drew Tom and Jerry since 1986, drew stories for The Lion King and Woody Woodpecker too and is still drawing his own comic series SOLO today. You think with the portfolio he has under his belt he would be famous on social media... No he has only around 2000 followers and an avg of 100 likes
Damn that’s depressing, that’s such a fucking great portfolio to have too like holy hell . It kinda helps knowing that even the greats have difficulty with this social media shit
That’s crazy and it was my favorite childhood show.
@@DEADEYESTUDIOthat shouldn't be depressing if he earn a lot of money without fame. I too know an artist in my country who work for animation studios.. But he doesn't update his social media frequently & his followers is probably about 1000.. But he makes a stable income.. His portofolio is fire.. Meanwhile, there are other artist who try to grow on social media..
As some one said, God it's depressing that even such great portfolio means nothing to the algorithm... Just followed this legend, thanks
except for his portfolio is all he needs when he needs a new job. his follower count doesn't matter. social media artists mostly have value in social media, but the pros like this guy have more value in their respective fields. if you have two people - a jelly art style 18 year old girl with 500k followers and an old fart who worked with Disney, Pixar, and all other mini branches they may have with only 300 followers, who would you hire? sure the 18 year old has a lot of followers, but that's not going to get her a livable career, just a few dollars here and there from monetization and commissions (but with the lack of experience, she might be losing money from those instead of making). the old fart will be making an actual salary. this is why social media doesn't matter when it comes to art. your ART matters when it comes to art.
fr. At this point im just drawing and posting whatever i want without really thinking to deep about the "growth"
Same, it just doesn't feel good to draw obsessing over how much it will grow numbers on some digital app, unless you want it as a job specifically. Studios don't choose you for your insta account anyways but your skill and real connections.
sorry, can i ask, if you dont care about this "art account growth" why do you post online? isn't it the point that people posting their artworks online to gain recognition? even just a bit?
@@R3innDoesSketches of course, but really obsesing to much about it isnt gonna lead you to nothing. Im a graphic designer so art is just a hobby but i had a time when i wanted more likes and more followers for validation + plus i've friends that entered fandoms and whatever just to grow ( eventhough they didnt like them)
TLDR: Do what you love and don't get carried away by the numbers
@@R3innDoesSketches There's a difference between getting recognition and "social media growth". Recognition is akin to having your art displayed in a gallery. However, most art galleries are completely overrun with applicants and in-person networking is hard for illustration artists. That's where social media kicks in. It's an easy way to network with other like-minded artists. "Social media growth" takes it a step further and treats your art like business. You pay for ads, follow algorithm trends, and create a variety of content based on a calendar across multiple apps. The problem is that life is fickle, at most resulting a fan-base that'll buy whatever you produce for a couple years, but the grind that it took to get there is never worth it. Instead, people should just create regardless of what anyone thinks.
@@elgoblinax8796i wish i could be positive that way. Its been 3+ years i made my instagram account and i barely gain 'recognition' that i thiught i could gain (check my art and see what i mean) like, imagine you have a distinct artstyle and nobody clicking likes, follows or whatever. How hurt you would be?
I always think of the Vegeta "I DON'T CARE ANYMORE" scene. when I stopped caring so much about social media growth and more about quality of art and having fun drawing, I started to grow lol.
Yea i think people should just post their art and their art journey :D
Just post whatever the hell you want because you'll literally never make be a famous social media artist.
um what@@Go_away__
The law of attraction happens because you let your wish go
exactly what just happen to me this week, its just keep growing and im scared
Stuff like this makes me remember that pikat is a programmer, their brain desperately trying to explain the intrinsics of social media without mentioning luck
Nah, I'm a programmer and I keep saying there is a lot of luck involved (along with bunch of other stuff)
There is no luck, just carefully curated algorithms
i read this really wrong bc of dyslexia and had a heart attack help
@@nonamepasserbya6658 the algorithm has changed drastically the past years though
This was a useless video imao.
My art has “Value” in the sense that you’d find it in the “Great Value Bargain Bin”
Mine too, or maybe if I’m lucky one day I’ll be featured in a video by some reviewer with 2000 followers with the title “the worst webseries I’ve ever seen” sigh, I just wanna make a living one day from the thing I’ve worked on for my whole life, being an artist is depressing as fuck
@@DEADEYESTUDIOit is and i can relate to that. ive been in this depressing boat for years. and i gain negativity. its best to just have a delete button and forget that i can draw stuff decently
@@R3innDoesSketches you too buckaroo. nuancing your perception of art to think that you have to be making certain work to gain success and giving up makes no progress towards any goals you have as an artist. Ok so maybe you get big online cause you draw pretty anime girls? What’s that for if it’s not what you like? All so you can eventually draw what you want and have all those people unfollow lol. There’s plenty of successful artists making REALLY weird things and maybe they grow slowly but the people who stick around are way more dedicated and the artist will be able to thrive longer. You’re not in the wrong for feeling like you don’t have a chance but shifting to a more optimistic outlook is the only real way to actually have a chance.
There’s supposed to be two responses to this idk if it’s a glitch or one disappeared lol. Just be optimistic guys I made a joke but like if you genuinely agree with this comment to the degree of being upset it would be good to reevaluate why you draw
@@TeethCollect oh yeah i understand and in reality i draw [well at this point im at the point where im making a game] for myself, but im trying to decide if i should bother making a career out of this or make it a hobby. i just dont know when im "good enough" for anyone to like what i make enough to actually buy it
Because social media sucks, that's why.
Finally a video not saying 'how to grow on social media as an artist...'
People forget how important interacting and networking is. You can’t just post and call it a day.
Post on multiple platforms that all link to each other, follow a lot of accounts, share things that inspire you, comment and interact with other creators (even if they don’t respond!!) share other creators to your story. Even if you don’t pop off instantly if you stick to improving yourself and posting it will eventually happen. Sometimes all it takes is 1 popular person to share you :)
This!!
I do not wish for internet fame, just a few hundred consistent people liking and a few commenting.
Unfortunately, if you want growth you need to play the game of economics as these two things are very much intertwined. You need:
1. something to offer to the people
2. a lot of knowledge of the "market" you want to participate in
3. a ton of luck
Many people underestimate the latter in particular. Even those who have success don't always acknowledge it having had such a huge impact (i.e. survivorship bias). For all these great artists with a ton of skill and a lot of followers there are so many equally skilled artists who never managed to get their fair share. Being at the right place at the right time really can make the difference; especially in a market that's as competitive as art.
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luck really isn't a factor when it comes to social media if you understand the algorithms and what kind of content gets engagement.
It only seems like luck when you don't know what you're doing and you by chance post something that people like without understanding why.
@@chickenmadness1732 Luck is a heavy factor, you might not call it luck, divine providence or karma if you're religious, but it's all the same. Some people get to succeed where others fail, often the one that succeeds isn't even the one that understood things the best.
Luck is THE deciding factor, from your ability to even practice art, your living situation allowing you to even pursue it in the first place, to whether or not your comment gets seen by people. If you have 100 applicants apply for a single position, only 1 gets the job, no matter how hard the other 99 applicants worked. In most cases 90 of them won't even get looked at, they'll have their applications discarded as a suitable candidate is pulled from the top 10 applications in the stack, so even if you are statistically the best person for the job, you got skipped because of something outside of your control.
No amount of understanding the algorithm will solve the problem that the algorithm might choose a cat video over your "perfectly understood" post.
There are thousands of talented artist that post daily and do not see anything beyond a thousand followers, luck absolutely DOES play account. This is coming from someone who purposely has an acc to follow underrated artists on social media platforms.@@chickenmadness1732
tbh when i stopped caring abt engagement so much i just... stopped posting entirely lol. i don't do much fanart anymore and i jump around different mediums and subjects constantly to keep stimulated and learn, i just accepted that's not what works on social media and started focusing purely on myself and my studies in art school. and it's not like i didn't try all those tips a bunch of times before, it just made me stressed and burnt out x100 faster than usual lmao. plus if i just don't post my stuff there's no chance it ends up traced, stolen or in some shady dataset-
I wish there was a place to post where the page checks for bots/ai accounts and it's only real people... FR FR
Deviantart. But they shot themselves in the foot lmao.
Inkblot is good...but it's extremely niche and no one really uses it. @@FainthedCherry
Newgrounds
The funny thing is that twitter itself effectively suspended my account because I only followed people but didn't post anything, so it flagged a human user thinking they were a bot.
Talk about an incompetent algorithm.
sheezy art opened again recently and while theres only access through logging in with an old account or by subbing (min is $3) its a really cozy place with a lot of potential imo, you can customize your page really well, people are nice, good rules... it reminds me the golden days of deviantart but even better i think, it has real potential and i hope it grows! for those unable to pay, it comes out of sub/legacy only in 2025.
I cannot believe how this is the first time i see someone talk about how the content is also important to growing a platform. I see so many artists complain about how meme arts get more traction than fully rendered art (understandable and hella relatable for sure) but also please be honest with yourselves, which one are you more likely to retweet- a photorealistic art of a frog, or a funny lil forg? Equating your art’s value with how many likes it gets is such a slippery slope and i hope especially newer artists dont fall for it
this!! 👆
Bruh I needed to read this
You can't imagine how much you motivate me to keep doing art and figuring out ways to make it fun and less serious, it's so overwhelming sometimes to hear big artists say you have to draw 6 hours a day every day and not pay attention to your "inspiration and wants", you just MUST draw a lot to to get good and somehow not get a crazy burnout the first month. I talked to artists who are in a constant state of burnout for years and push themselves to draw because they need money to survive, it's so sad to hear and so demoralizing as well, you don't want to get there, sounds like 0 fun and pure suffering. So thank you for voicing your thoughts on this topic, love all your videos honestly!
Hey, just thought I would chime in and give you more artists who go "Practice is importaint, but your health is more importaint." Drawfee, it's a chennel of 4 artist friends, and they teach drawing classes once a month on their patron streams (Which the vod becomes free a month later) and most of their advice is followed by saying don't worry too much, just do your best and try to have fun with it. one of the artist even had a "How to practice" class and his tip was basically "Pick as many days in the week as you want, it can be 1, 3, 7, doesn't matter, and try to draw for 5 mins on those days, if after 5 mins you still aren't feeling up to it, stop, go do something else, you don't need to push yourself." and all of them have backgrounds consistally burning themselves out, but they learned that they didn't have to do that (One of them is still learning, the others 'bully' her into taking breaks, and activitly cheer her on when she takes a break without being told to, she gets a timd "That's better I guess" when she takes a break from her main work, but still spends 16+ hours a day working on a passion project, because, she likes doing it, but she keeps giving herself wrist injuries because she works too much.)... Sorry about the ramble, they are my comfort youtubers, and I tend to get over excited.
Listened til the end of the vid and what you said about how you didn't care what people think cus you're so focus on improving your fundies are so relatable. I remember Kakage gave similar advices too "If you have time to think about your likes you're not drawing enough"
For some(me) sharing my art online is less about 'validation'(likes, comments, etc) and more about clients and possible job offer 😂
@@Depressionwave2338Yeah but my interest isn't on studio job, it's more commission job so social media is significant. What you said is all true as well though cus art have many paths
I love that quote! I keep it in mind whenever I’m doing my art studies and scrolling through twitter
I'd say the biggest issue is finding what that "value" or "appeal" is. I tend to hop all over the place with my art: different topics, techniques and I tend to have a super bad posting schedule and my engagement is abysmall, so I really don't know if there's any "appeal" online in my works. That's just something I thought of watching this video. When you're really small on social media, it really feels like you're just throwing your works into a bottomless pit. Not that I'm planning on not posting (or fixing my schedule for that matter), just that I think the "appeal" is more visible in hindsight, when you actually get big or big-ish.
1:14
Correction : They DONT work.
Tryied everything of it, nothing. If you do all these things you still only ge t a 50% chance of algo-engagement.
this actually makes so much sense! I came to the same conclusion a while ago, and it's great to see someone explaining this in such an easy to understand way! I hope this blows up and more people see this because it's some really valuable information.
The advice you gave about finding what specific value you bring with your art genuinely kinda opened my mind to my potential. I've been feeling crappy about my own work for a while now, but hearing that my art still can have appeal gives me a lot of hope. I really appreciate your advice and explanation of what you did to improve and gain an audience. It's true that we should just focus on ourselves and not worry about social media, but damn it really does feel nice when you make something that others seem to like. Thank you for explaining all that in a funny, genuine way ^^
Thanks for finally bringing this to light, people get way too obsessed over likes, follows, retweets, etc. that they forget about actually improving I have even seen people scared of changing their styles bc they would lose followers which really sucks :(
Amazingly enough... I've never seen a Pikat video before, but the little avatar drew me in and the way she was spittin kept me around. This was incredibly informative! Thanks for making and sharing all of this.
Also, the way my eyes widened at the use of programmer language with the cute fonts. This was just goodness from end to end.
After watching this, the conclusion I reached is... I am on the wrong planet.
😔😔 I dont share my art online
Me neither brother but 2024 we changing shit up
I don't do that. If people want to see my art, I send them a private link to view all my artworks. It takes forever for people to like your page, so I thought, 'I don't care.' If people want to see my portfolio, I let them use a private link; that's also an option, and your work won't get stolen or traced by other artists.
Good 😊
That’s the way
Now I'm scared of AI...
Thank you for this! It rlly helped me alot ngl, i love your art btw
a.k.a dont try too hard doing what u love
thank you for this, gave me a pretty cool idea
Ngl, you're the first person ive heard in a LOOOOONG time saying the real shit! Like, yeah the general tips are always the same but never really explained, you did explain the whole thing and why it does or doesn't work! Great video :)
The amount of work you put in your videos is inspiring. Thank you for this Pikat.
I don't know what to take out from this video
I stopped caring about my audience growth since like last year and it kinda makes me happier ngl. Also I found you from my YT recommendation, your VTuber model is so creative!!
Thanks for this video! I find it very useful. I post a lot of fanart, because it’s what I love to draw, and sometimes it’s scary to go beyond that, or to mix it all. I keep doing it becasue I TRULLY love what I do, but sharing online lately feels like screaming to a void. It used to be fun, now feels like and obligation. But I want to keeps sharing, just want not to feel guilty or bad of not getting engagement, or feeling like my art is not valuable or appealing just because numbers. Very interesting thanks again!
I've been enjoying your fun lectures and tangents a lot, very relatable! :)
This is one of the best social media tips for artists vids I have seen, thanks pikat!
I really love your videos I’m glad i found them, keep up the advice segments!
I honestly never cared for numbers. I just like making friends and sharing each others work and supporting them. If people like my art, thats cool, but I get insecure because I feel like they expect me to be like this type of artist, consistent, but i'm not 💀 and I don't plan to either lol
Zamn, Pikat attacking me personally 😂
5:03 I fully agree. Someone like Khyle does a great job at combining character interactions with memes while every drawing looks like a photo taken in real time rather than most fanart that goes for “pose for the camera”
I could totally see a twitter gimmick account that only posts the same stick figure everyday blowing up for no reason
Man this is so relatable to me!.. I begun having so much fun when i start caring about my art quality and improving it than making a fame in social media..
Its so frustrating though that you have to be a someone youre not to get likes and that in the end your skill or REAL you does not get appreciated. Still feel like modern social media has done a giant disservice to artists. It was so different back then on sites like DA.
I've been following you for 4 years I think, since your kinda eccentric sense of humor never fails to impress me.
NOT HER SAYING HER OLD ART WASN'T GOOD AAHHHH, i wish i was that good lmao, i could be, but doing studies makes me severely tired, studying in general is awful for me and always has been, but art studies hit me even harder because i love drawing but practice feels so ass
Saaame! I hate the fundamentals. I get so frustrated so easily. For me, it's either quit from frustration or draw, even if it means improving at 1 millimeter a year. I prefer the second option TBH 🤷♀️. Honestly, who cares if my art has no "value". Life is too short to care for that bs. So all I can say is... Good luck on your journey!
@@DeltaRaptoran Yeah im in the same boat as you, i've just kinda given up on studying fundamentals constantly, i prefer just having fun and slowling improving than burnout, good luck on ur art aswell
Fundamentals should be applied with the things you like to draw, or else it feels like there are no goals
@rofidel178 For me, the fundamentals make what I like drawing more dreadful instead of it being the other way around 😅
I'm fucking doomed 😭
But I'm still going, didn't give up just yet. Still not touching the fundas tho
someone that gave good advice and kept it real tysm this rlly motivated me
ey I was on the stream when she said that ! It's really fun seeing this segment edited !
O I'm early
yay
edit after actually watching the video:
I like to think that, if you can get your art to somewhere you personally like, self-expression wise and fundamental wise, then more people will like it as opposed to following all these complicated tips to "grow".
If your art doesn't make you happy then what's the point of all that "growth" in your social medias.
Thanks for the video as always pikat, I'm really glad I stumbled upon your channel by chance!
I get what you getting at, but I don't think I can agree. My own art aside, I just see so many amazing artists not getting noticed, while some sorry but trash getting popular, and it's just how it be, hard to see any rule to this madness
Well as she said it's not just technical ability that will attract people
I love your style, also your avatar is awesome. I subscribed
Honestly, relatable. I haven't really posted on social media because I've been working hard on improving my art. And even when I finally make something I'm proud of and post, I got no engagement. Maybe I'll post my progress to help motivate me and others.
This was very good advice. As an artist you have to sell yourself and your art. Why should anyone care what you’re showing them. I’m trying to grow on here with my cartoons and it’s been hard figuring out how to go about it my own way without copying everyone who’s already made it because why would anyone want to see another theodd1sout or Jaiden? But the algorithm needs to be fed so it makes being an artist on here a lot harder specially if you work full time. We should want to be growing as artists and let the money or fame follow after. (But let’s be real the dream is to do this for a living)
thank you so much pikat
BTW, this serves not only for art, as in drawings, but also any other type of creative outlet you may have, be video, music, dance, etc. Great video.
The editing on this is GOATed 🙏
I burnt myself out trying to stay on the social media wave and paid for it dearly. The last piece I did before I stopped drawing for 2 years, I can't even replicate anymore.
I'm a music artist but it was still very relevant and very liberating to hear. Thank you for sharing your experience!
Same actually!
eh, I kinda gave up and realized i love drawing regardless if people dont even see it lol. I can starve and die, I came to accept that no one will ever see my art and thats okay, not everything is meant to be popular.
I've spent a long time improving my skill, and now I think i'm good enough that my art has intrinsic "value", but I still struggle to grow. I think I gotta either get even better ... or move into character interactions lol. It's nice to hear your first thousand was slow too.
This is a very good explaination, and the main point is very true: always draw and post what YOU want and allow your tastes and skills to grow, regardless of numbers.
Thank you for this! Now I know why I only have very small engagements, I think because I want to make my twit as professional as possible (like literal only art stuff) that's why it's not growing
oomg I love your videos, super funny, quirky and relatable. I have adhd and I watched this one all the way through only stopping a couple times lol ("a couple times" is really really good for me haha).
one thing though, and maybe this is only a me-thing, I feel like there are a BIT too many meme cutaways? Like I feel like it kinda disrupts the flow a bit. Like I want to see more of you and your cute vtuber say quirky things, but when it suddenly cuts to like a Fairly Oddparents meme that I've seen like 100 times, it kinda takes me out of the video flow. But the ones that work in tandem with your dialogue work very well, like the gay sonic fanart suddenly cutting in, and you floating away in grayscale while doing a short self-own about posting memes. I also like when you exploded at the end lmao. Really awesome, definitely going to keep watching and looking forward to your videos, even if you or your editor disagrees with my take, I feel like this is still top quality stuff.
(from yodogama on twitch :3)
I dont agree with this take only because, my art is generally "spunky" but it hasnt obtained an audience.
The reality is, great artist get more likes this way they get more traction in general to their work. If an art work is amateur, less people are willing to like it outside of getting a like in return.
The reality of modern art is the value has increased drastically. We are no longer in the era were you could post your cringey oc's and several people who are in your collective age range and intrest will see it first
The internet is not an obscure media anymore. look at the youtube patform itself. The definition of quality has changed for the average indie creator. Like it or not, people by and large want to follow and like shiny things and things with a cult following.
So the REAL truth to growing an audience, as this creator demonstrate is your quality of work. Put in the effort and learn backgrounds, coloring, anatomy, style and design. Play the game. I believe in you. You can do this!
ugh I feel this, I have been painting forever and have worked with a lot of clients but the only people that follow me are other artists so I end up being one of those "artists artists" that lacks appeal to broader audiences....I am simply happy for whoever decides to stick around and look at my stuff
This is some fantastic advice and explains why following these social media guides won't necessarily gain you 🌟 instant success 🌟
I liked the part where you gave clear examples of what worked for you and where you spotted where your art started to take off!
Absolutely banger as usual pikat LMAO
Ty for the info 😊! I'm hoping to make my own platform one day. Also now I need to know which of the 3 houses is you favorite? *Golden deer 🦌!*
I just think its quite annoying because no matter how hard I try I always see people getting likes immediately on twt and stuff sob
Truth be told, I don't care about getting a huge following online. I just don't want to feel down when my hard work gets overlooked online.
It feels like I don't matter.
6:50 honestly, sometimes the fundamentals aren't really a factor. It really just does come down to A. the social media platforms are kinda shit nowadays and B. certain niches aren't as popular as others.
I have a niche that collectively gets a lot of attention, but when I make my own stuff there's *significantly* less interaction, but I'm not particular discouraged by it, I just make it because it makes me happy, and I'm like drip feeding lore to people lol
Pikat explaining social credits on internet
I understand what you are saying, and I agree, but these tips can be useful. They're marketing tools to help people starting out their accounts, ofc your main focus should always be the quality of your art, having fun and improving your skills, but if you already have some of that and still no one sees your stuff, these things do help to get that snowball rolling. I'm saying this as an artist and marketing graduate ahah, I've seen amazing professional artist with like 100 followers because no one can find them online.
Sometimes you just don't have the luck or support base to start out and that's when you should give these a try to increase your chances of being seen!
I literally couldn't care less about the topic of the video I just wanted to say that the pixel art vtuber (3d model?) Looks sick as hell, I'll definitely check out other videos tho
I’ve noticed that some of the most art that blowing up a few one of the following three
1) they get overwhelmed and disappear.
2) they become a art reel farm( if you check their page you’ll almost never find a picture of their drawing it’s just transition reel after reel 💀)
3) they actually just Genshin Artist or a fandom Artist that’s has a stable community and are very involved.
YES UR MODEL TRACKING LOOKS AMAZINGGGGG
Got to agree really, with me I'm not consistent, my art style though good is not AMAZING and I hardly post fan art often
But with me I'm just really polite to a lot of people, that then draws people in and checks my work
I ain't HUGE but I have enough to be noticed a bit
This might possibly be the best "how to get big" videos ever, cause you succulent explain that you need a solid niche, but consistency is..... not quite as important. lol
In fact, I think i proved this to myself because i stopped posting on a different account for like a year and then came back with a banger song + video which did really well....... then i posted a couple more songs that weren't as good and did not nearly as well. Actually, you basically could be summed up as saying "quality, not quantity"
I used to have a "business" selling my art (I didn't have the proper paper work to call it as such, but I don't know what else to call it). I would follow all of the tips that experts told me to market my art and it didn't work, so I was miserable. Looking back, I see now that even I wouldn't wanna follow me. I was boring.
But ever since I've stopped trying to sell myself and just posted whatever I want, I've been getting more attention. I post silly memes, comics, with an occasional rendered piece. It hasn't translated into money, as of yet. But I am having a lot more fun.
So, I agree with you about it needing it to appeal to other people, but don't forget it should appeal to you, as well. This is your platform, after all.
i tried to be active on like tiktok but man did it not work out lmao. first two videos did very well, but i change my artstyle a lot so nothing after really worked xd. i'd LOVE to be big on social media and stuff, but then theres also things like my extreme social anxiety stopping me from even opening apps ToT
my goal is to make my art as self indulgent as possible. i make stuff that only appeals to me and that’s cool and awesome
sad that all these tips still are no guarentee for success, ofc its not , i wish it would be as simple as that ..
I get it now, it’s a skill issue. Thank you sensei!!
This deserve a sub I learn alot
LMAO the cut to the sonic x shadow MSpaint art killed me. great video
I 100% agree with all this I do have a question what would you suggest for somebody who has no time like they are a parent they work they do everything else and they're still trying to just get their art out there a little bit
Im majoring in business in college rn and my current class is social media marketing, youve basically said all the things 😂
TBH this is 100% correct, especially how one shot wonder posts aren't great, memes and humor can kinda make up for drawing skill(my case lol) but are still part of value, and that tips and tricks are just multipliers.
i want growth, and i want fame, and hold my words that the world will know my name.
Yes. That is literally why I never share any social media tips on my instagram stories. - i realllllllllllllllly hate the posts who solve the algorithm because... algorithm just wants to show the user stuff what he may be interested in, and that is why we should work on the "appeal"
I want to travel the world and make people happy with my art (something like portrait of someone seating on a bench, drawing people's pets etc), i have a few stories that I'd like to draw, but they're so inconsistent that i don't think it would even be woth it to create an account.
The real answer is luck and personality. You have to get lucky and have the algorithm arbitrarily decide to show your work. Then people have to like you. The work itself is largely irrelevant. It's just like any other kind of influencer, you're selling yourself. Everything else is secondary.
Exactly unfortunately that's not me😅
Yes. That is literally why I never share any social media tips on my instagram stories. - i realllllllllllllllly hate the posts who solve the algorithm because usually it just follows the "appeal"
best place to post art is pintrest low key, you post it there and let it cook
the algorithm won't fuck you over if you repost and it doesn't need to be recent to enter the algorithm
posts from months ago will slowly exponentially build up and pop off
Interesting 🤔 I'll try that out
What do you use to edit and animate?
I had a "pop off " a couple of weeks ago that ultimately made me not want to draw anymore. It was fanart of another artists oc. I didn't want to continue drawing his oc's, so I took a break. My next pic of one of my oc's barely got any likes... I'm still struggling now trying to figure things out. I don't know what my "niche" is yet. Do I just continue to draw his oc's? Got long before he'll get pissed of me doing that? Yep, I'm lost. Great video.
this is a real good video
0:09 Dang, I wasn’t expecting to have heard all but one of them (I don’t have Twitter)
After watching this, I think this social media is unnecessary work that may or may not do anything
I love your pixel PngTuber model, I've never seen that kind before. And I like the fact that you got more likes for drawing boxes than a detailed mecha 🥚
Honestly this is so real, the tips and tricks can work but they’re like those “This is how to be a millionaire” books etc
value is really important. for example i often get sponsored artists in my feed and i really don't like their art, they're often clearly inexperienced. And i'm like, nah not my thing so I ignore it.
I just send my friends the things I draw because their comments ultimately mean more to me than some random stranger thumbing it up.
How did you make that pixelart vtuber avatar? I'm finding tutorials on making 3d ones or anime, but can't find any on pixelart avatars.
Out of all the standard "how to grow on social media as an artist" tipps, the worst one was "have a consistent style and only ever do one thing". I wanna try and do way too many things instead of restricting myself to only one. Like maybe I'm gonna become somewhat consistent once I find that thing I vibe with the most, but even then it wont mean I won't post the occasional blender render or illustrator poster. It's just straight up an awful tipp, actually preventing artistic growth.
My art account took off 2 times but it because I drew fanart of popular stuff and now my fanbase are just people from that fandom TT I really wanna do my own thing but it feel really bad when it seems like no one like it
i deleted my old account to start a new one just to repeat the same thing again lmao