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The facts - while Zelenskyy and his mafia are ruling the country: Ukraine will never be part of NATO, there won't be fair elections, there won't be enough weapons delivered to win the war. If people of Ukraine don't understand this yet - then there aren't much options left between holding, running or dieing. Winning with Zelenskyy - mission impossible.
president zelensky? you mean comedian dictator zelensky playing president. ukrainians are rebelling same as the isrealis but it wont get reported because of legacy media. we need to break this cycle of war. solutions to problems instead of ear and blalkmail. waiting on that excellence we hear from in history seems to be lies... stay safe everyone namaste
Watching from Poland, it seemed like America gave Ukraine weapons late, then gave enough weapons to fight to a standstill (not total victory), and then put restrictions on the use of those weapons. I don’t understand it. The point of war should be victory.
thanks for good words. From Ukrainian prospective they are doing that cause they don't want russia to loose, they want save its face. It was the same before Ukraine proclaimed the independence, Mr.Bush came to Ukraine to persuade not to declare independence, they didn't want nuclear weapon to spread, other bs
Russia doing its doctrine, does not need to beat the military just need to wait for the west to lose interest or get distracted by another issue (like Israel even though its actually tied into it but most dont do enough research to understand that)
Yeah western involvement in Israel is almost unheard of in the West. Most people dont even know they're a US ally and you never even hear Israel mentioned in the news or on the streets.
Is4ael is thousands of kilometers away it has no tie in. Beside US problem is China and keep funding ukrn and you get russia hounding you back like germany and nepoleon. US will not be left alone to even breath at china, prev 2 guys taking moscow were powerful than RUS too so forget US being superior
Have you seen the photo ops done between Ukrainian and Israeli government officials? They're hilarious. The grandchildren of Banderites posing with the grandchildren of their victims. Nobody in those pictures seems to enjoy taking them.
Wasn't it already betrayed when Russia invalidated the Budapest Memorandum when it invaded? I find it odd how people arbitrarily decide when history or events take place or start.
I'm just curious, do the US really believe that they have some right to dictate to some states like Iran or N.Korea something related to their nuclear programs after this? Everyone will have nukes, not only South Korea or Saudi Arabia, obviously Iran, but that is not the end of a list: Taliban, ISIS, Al-Qaeda will have them as well. And now Americans must have a look at their southern border, the issue neither party wants to solve, And simply multiply these two facts: broken border and Al-Qaeda with nukes. Are you ready? Basically now they are saying: Ukraine, you gave up your nukes, and now you must give up your territory, future, children. Zelensky is absolutely supported by Ukrainians in his speech about nukes vs NATO, even though I didn't vote for him.
Yeah and Ukraine was set into a shadow embargo after 2014, nobody wanted t osell them anything and the gripen deal fell short because of the russian invasion in 2014
Arguably, the plan succeeded in exposing Western leaders’ dishonesty and cowardice to more people. The West’s leaders don’t want Ukraine to win; they fear even a slight prospect of Ukraine’s potential victory. Zelensky must also contend with this reality. Some argue that his candid approach will do more good than harm.
It's a balancing act. A lot of people seem to have forgotten that Russia is still a nuclear power. If Ukraine starts to threaten Russia for real, It is absolutely not impossible that the big missiles start flying. This, and only this, is the reason why the west haven't given Ukraine enough equipment to roll into Moscow.
@@dosmastrify It's right in that this is why Western leaders have chickened out, but it's wrong in that Putin would seal his own fate if he started flinging nukes.
@@Teutathis I suppose this will prove quite an example as to why every independent state needs the protection of a nuclear arsenal. The non proliferation paradigm rested on the idea that nukes were only there to deter a nuclear attack or some equivalent threat. It appears that possessing one gives you the licence to bully those that don't, provided you are willing to weather some economic fallout and a relentless barrage of strongly worded letters.
May I ask the authos of this video a question - if Ukraine offered to lower the conscription age, which would give Ukraine roughly a few extra years time to hold the line, what then after those few years? I suppose US and EU would keep "dosing" us with 5 Abrams tanks here, 7 Leopad tanks there, while Ukaine slowly fades away. Because so far we are being kept as an exchange coin and I don't believe it matters what would Zelensky offer to be honest.
Ofcourse it matters, right now your begging and not giving anything in return. Why would any western politician shoot itself in the foot to help Ukraine and then ruin their own careers...
@@dosmastrifythere is no „path to victory“. The majority of the most experienced soldiers already died years ago. There is no point in lowering the age because if the experts could not do it the younger guys will only be there to die for sure. It is pointless and you could even argue murder to knowingly put them into this situation If anyone still thinks Ukraine can get their territories back please wake up. When they tried to conduct their counter offensive they failed terribly. Since then their conditions are even worse so how in gods name would they be able to do it now? The only chance for Ukraine to get their land back is if NATO gets involved but the possibility for this to happen is nearly zero. Nobody wants to die for Ukraine. Heck even Ukrainians don’t want to die for it and fled to other European states
Only part I agree on is rules of use of said weapons--> ridiculous. The major part is they have no weapons to give other than the USA--> WHo doesn't give more than a big fart if Ukraine/Russia butcher themselves. Truth is from USA's perspective a giant stalemate between Ukraine/Russia is a good thing. One can argue that if USA truly wanted a better stalemate it should have given more, but here is the rub, USA has to worry about the middle East. IF USA gives all its armor to Ukraine who it really does not give a damn about, that means this is a GIANT GREEN LIGHT to IRAN to conquer Iraq/Kuwait/Saudi Arabia who collectively have NOTHING to defend against such an invasion. Heck at this point I would not be surprised if Turkey would not join Iran and attack Iraq if the USA was not around. 2/3 of the worlds oil and of the usable oil it is 3/4 of the worlds oil. Compared to this, Ukraine does not matter at all.
people need to understand that Ukraine lacks in the diplomacy department. They show very little good will towards their neighbors (I am Romanian so I know what I'm talking about,check the snake island trial, the Bystroe channel disaster,the Romanian minority targetting from Ukraine). They do this with Poland and Hungary,as well. In terms of diplomacy they have the same "school" as Russia, the "bully" school. Now they are in war and need help, yet their rethoric hasn't changed. You need to follow the remarks of Dmitry Kuleba over the years, recently deposed foreign minister and how he talked, it's appaling
Bruh, I've also been saying that Ukraine isn't a Democracy or a Republic in the way people believe 😂 and that's just simple facts, because they aren't a democracy they really ain't.
@@beasley1232when the Russian boot ravaged all Eastern and Central Europe for more than 50 years, changes in the political and societal spectrum will be slow. Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria are examples. You cannot change in 30 years what has been destroyed at every socio-political level for over 50. More than 50% of the population in those countries have the same mentality as in 1990
South Vietnamese, Afgan against Talibans, Kurds and many others know the answer. As Kissigner said to William F. Buckley back in 1968 “It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
That's a very biased take of history, what about being friend of dictatorships or kings? What did it do for the wellbeing of people? No system or country is perfect but some are way worse than others
And yet none of those were actually vital to America's interests; all of them were off the beaten path in areas that didn't factor in US strategic thinking. Ukraine on the other hand is a lot more strategic for the US especially since it is between allies that the US is pledged to defend and the nation that we're going to have to defend them from. Now, do we have leadership that recognizes this, that is the real question.
I live in Ukraine and going to watch the video a bit later. Althought I'm grateful for the support provided for my country, but replying to the video name beforehand: I don't know if we will be betrayed, but it surely does feel like we're being betrayed.
Right Sector thought they were going to take Sevastopol for the Yanks. What Ukraine think was going to happen. Ukraine government betrayed its own people.
12:54 lowering the age of conscription wouldn't even do much though. Take a look at the age pyramid - there is a huge dip of availability pool of people in that age bracket. It would be not very effective in terms of mobilization potential, but very politically damaging internally.
Forget the internal politics, it would be far more damaging to the future economy and demographics. Especially considering it isn't necessary to lower the conscript age, Ukraine has hundreds of thousands of already drafted people sitting around waiting for weapons, taking more people out of the economy only worsens that problem.
If North Koreans are being deployed in Ukraine, then that could turn the tide for Russia. While Russia is looking at every possible opportunity to take the war forward, the west is stepping backwards :(
It's a relatively small force so their impact on the Russian war effort overall will be limited, it is a huge boon for North Korea though as they will gain much needed experience in modern warfare and can use the contribution to gain Russia's favour.
@Irishpotato81 Why is Putins 3 day special operation still ongoing 2 and a half years later then? They should be walking into Kyiv if Ukraine has nothing left
The left have always hated the west, the right have begun to hate the west for it's tolerance and support Russia because of religion. Only moderates support the West, and we are dwindling as people become more extreme and embrace fanatical perspectives.
I don't think it was a "bad" plan. It's the only plan that is possible tbh. The war is still in the attritional, positional phase, any promise of 'change of approach' would have been seen as ridiculous. Its actually exactly the time to double down on more material aid to Ukraine.
Again he literally stated why its wrong, this was tried many times before but the western capitals keep rejecting it, its like bashing your head against the wall. Like yes in an ideal world its reasonable but if it is doomed to fail whats the point? He said it in the video pretty well, western capitals are interested in a return, just a reminder that the world runs on money and resources yet again
The problem is that the narrative for support continues to revolve around “doing what’s right” when there’s a more effective argument for “do it for your own self-interest.”
Failing to stop the Russian aggression when Ukraine will do all the work shows an unacceptable level of weakness that will cost hundreds of times more that what is needed for Ukrainian victory, in fact it is already apparent. If countries can't understand this and wish for some other incentive, well... then they are done. The Western system had a good run, it's over.
@@nikolaykaradzhiev1889As we live in an ever changing world, the USA becomes more focused on its own internal politics and affairs and the Pacific Ocean. I predict, no matter what, Democrats or Republicans, the USA will continue to shift in a more isolationist route, and move it's attention slowly towards the Asian Pacific. Under a Democratic presidents, the process will just be slower, but even under Obama, he voiced the need to "Pivot to Asia." Even in 2016, Hilary Clinton also mentioned the need to Pivot to the Asian Pacific, and that's also exactly what Trump did as well. Fortunately for Russia, the USA main attention is on their main geopolitical economic and military rival which is China.
Ukraine doesn't realistically have anything it can offer as a guarantee. Resource exploitation requires conditions for safe extraction of those materials. It only takes one strike from Russia on any such areas offered up to the West, to make it clear its not worth any investment. Productivity would just be ground to a halt, and investments would be lost. When the German weapons manufacturer Rheinnmetal said they were going to open up a plant in Ukraine, I actually scoffed at this - "Its just gonna get destroyed, are they stupid?" All Ukraine can give are promises it can't really give NOW. The Material support Ukraine has received thus far, will never be exceeded, will never come close to even fraction of what its gotten already, and thats just the truth. The stockpiles are emptied, the manufacturing can't keep up with their needs, they will continue on the path of a material deficit to the very end of this war. You never make a plan based on reliance of a third party, a third party with voters who never asked to be involved in the first place. Not a single referendum on providing support to Ukraine was ever done, and naturally, as the lives of people in those countries begin to deteriorate, they're going to vote out the people who are prioritizing foreigners over their own people. Its happening all across Europe, its happening here in the US, and the brutal honest to god truth was that the quality of life of Europe was sustained by economic cooperation with Russia, not Ukraine. Russia was always more important to Europe, than Ukraine was, but Europe let the neocons here in the US dictate foreign policy and effectively let our government, sacrifice their economies for Blackrock and Vanguard.
@@XXPanzerDivisionXX Many gets it, but yt censorship deletes most of the comments, which involve longer than one sentence or takes, which are not part of narrative. P.s europe paid the heaviest price for being vassals of usa. Eu could have stopped this madness, way before it even started, but were ordered to stfu and go with the flow, thanks to warmongers, globalists and anti-human neocons. They celebrate, when populations decrease en mass.
Spot on. Also 40+ counties straining their muscles trying to bring Russia down, yet failing miserably goes to show that Russia needs to be taken Seri seriously when it comes to European security architecture. You can't make someone safe at the expense of other. That other is Russia. If Russia say their interests and safety are threatened by NATO, sit down and resolve that problem. Don't be dishonest about negotiating (Minsk 1 + 2) as this will piss off Russians even more and harden their stance. Just the audacity to do this to nuclear superpower is pure gambling at best, and downright suicidal at worst. I can't believe Ukrainians still can't see writing on the wall.
Yes, it really is that simple. I like the idea of Ukraine becoming an armory for other countries though, that would draw their interest and force them to look at UA as an investment in their own future. Ukrainian scientists and engineers were arguably the best in the Soviet Union.
considering how they are only forcing young men on borders by kidnapping them ..while their gurls are complaining about 'dating challenges in Germany '.....,. I think it will be better for Ukranian guys if war stops.
Their plan was not to get more weapons, it was to directly involve western nations kinetically in the war. See the point about shooting Russian missiles down. That is never going to go well domestically for every political party in power that decides to get involved. The plan is also in place to secure a NATO invitation because if they get that invitation then they can start thinking about a peace deal which would include concessions such as losing the already occupied territory.
@@michaelotieno6524 the war was never about NATO expansionism. When the conflict began a decade ago, it started in relation to Russia interfering with Ukraine joining the European Union, which at the time joining NATO was incredibly unpopular with Ukrainians. Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was elected to complete the process of Ukraine joining the European Union. This displeased Putin/Russia as he was trying to get Ukraine to join the Eurasian Economic Union which along with their military alliance was basically efforts to hold onto the post-Soviet states. Due to pressure put on the Ukrainian President, he ended up unilaterally pulling out of joining the EU, against the will of the people. He announced such decisions in the middle of the night hoping to minimize reaction of the people, but students were quick to respond in protest that night. Almost immediately Yanukovych responded with brutal police crackdowns, which would only worsen and worsen. As the response by the government got more aggressive, Ukrainians became more defiant. Eventually he would flee to Russia, after which is when some of the scale of the corruption and stolen wealth he occupied and even took with him were revealed. It was incredibly shortly after this that Putin would respond by illegally annexing Crimea, and then sending troops and equipment into eastern Ukraine to fight a war, hoping to grind them down until a point where they could walk in and swallow them whole... Unfortunately for them, it pushed Ukraine the other direction. After Russia invaded Ukraine at full-scale in February of 2022, you then start to see a significant majority of Ukrainians actually seeking to join NATO. So if the war was about NATO expansionism, which Putin and Russia have changed the reason dozens and dozens of times over, trying to find anything that sticks. But if it was about NATO expansionism, Putin failed miserably when Russia had its border with NATO nations more than double when Finland joined the alliance. A year later, when Sweden joined the alliance, it completely altered the dynamics of the Baltic Sea and Russia's declining leverage in the region. Beyond that, now Ukrainians do want to join NATO and so in the end, Russia may end up tripling their border with NATO nations. One last thing, how can you say Russia was never a threat to Europe when they invaded Georgia to prevent them moving closer to the West, and then again invaded Ukraine. Are these nations not Europe enough for you? Don't get me wrong, in my eyes, the great failing of the West after the collapse of the Soviet Union was that we didn't work to bring Russia and post-Soviet states into our systems, both the European Union and NATO as quickly as possible. We should have funded a lot of aid to cushion their landings, preventing a lot of the poverty and suffering that would be experienced. Russia, by all rights today could have been one of the most critical "Western" powers. Heck, if they joined the EU and NATO, it would have been even more likely to see a European Armed Forces to better counter American dominance. We didn't, Russia got to a point of seeking to re-establish itself as a global superpower by reclaiming once held lands of the empire of old.
@@michaelotieno6524 "the war was about NATO expansion" In that case russia has lost. NATO has expanded because of the war. And to a significant degree when it comes to russias naval possibilities.
@@michaelotieno6524 wtf ??? Putin stated many times that the fall of soviet union was a bad move and supported the unification with ex countries... funny how in all countries that are "opposed to this idea" there happened war with russian minorities... thankfully the Baltics were smart enough to join NATO quickly...
I largely agree with your analysis, except the bit about Zelenskyy making a mistake working with Kamala and not Trump. From my perspective (as an American), Trump is a lost cause for Ukraine. Putin already knows how to play him and his potential victory would likely mean the end of American support for Ukraine, albeit on an unknown timeline. Rather than trying to split time with him, I think it was the right choice to spend more time engaging with the candidate whose victory is clearly more favorable, especially to the extent said candidate can get any advantage from it.
Zelensky didn't pick a side when visiting the US. Zelensky would've had absolutely no issues to shake hands with Republicans as well when visiting that ammo plant at Scranton. The Republicans picked the Russian side and tried to blame the Ukrainians for it. You see, Trump (and probably the FSB) discoved he didn't need the Polish diaspora anymore to win the state of Pennsylvania, because they've apparently found a way to politically mobilize the Amish for the Republicans (a thing I had to learn in a random TH-cam Short comment section yesterday). Not that the Polish Pennsylvanians are going to notice it directly. They'll notice it later when they find out Trump 2nd term isn't Trump 1st term. So how to get away with that? By playing the moral highground in the most sociopathic way possible; Well, first invite over the Polish president Duda to open a monument at a Polish-American Church near Pittsburgh. Then suddenly cancel it, just to give Duda the feeling of getting dumped. Then just make sure no Republican attends the meeting with Zelensky at Pennsylvania and just wait till the visit is done. Then, between the moment Zelensky is travelling Pennsylvania to New York to meet Trump, let Speaker Mike Johnson publish a letter to fire the Ukrainian ambassador over Zelensky's "interference" in domestic politics. Then Trump is having a conversation with the press with Zelensky next to talk about that one time of good cooperation between Trump and Zelensky. About that one time Trump asked Zelensky to find some bad stuff about Hunter and Joe Biden in 2019, which led to the first impeachment procedure against Trump! So if Zelensky decided to fully support the Democrats, then it would've been after this visit. Why the Poles stay silent on Trump's betrayal of them? Because silence is the best chance for Harris to win or to give Trump the chance to find his less radical part of himself from his first term where Trump was a staunch ally of Poland. I can also imagine they just can't comprehend that Trump is a KGB/FSB kompromat since 1987 after all the good things he did for Poland in his first term. I hope to be so wrong at this, that I'm just a radical pro🇺🇦 cartoon dog. 😉
Going to a swing state, that close to an election and only meeting with Democrats does nothing but hurt him and his countries chances if Trump becomes president. It's also just a bad look. It reads like a foreigner trying to influence the US election. In that regard it just sours more Americans on further supporting Ukraine. Whole things was very short sighted in my opinion. The idea that how the Trump administration will deal with this war is all just a forgone conclusion I think is nonsense. It certainly is a good narrative for the Democrat campaign however.
I would be very surprised is one of the three secret points wasn't either nuclear weapon sharing in the future or development of a domestic nuclear weapon program
Ukraine HAD nuclear weapons, a significant arsenal from the soviet era, they gave it up in exchange for UK and US being guarantors of Ukrainian independence in case of Russian aggression. As the world can see the US and UK still stick by their age old tradition of breaking agreements and bettaying allies, with allies like these who needs enemies. This could all have been averted had the UK and US taken a harsh and immediate stance during the Crimea annexation.
@@INSANESUICIDE No, Ukraine gave up its nukes because it was broke. By 1996, its oligarchs had plundered the country, and were absolutely happy to hand over its nukes for basically nothing.
@@INSANESUICIDE While yes, technically very accurate to say that when the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine possessed the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world. The big "however" on this matter though is that Ukraine did not possess control over said nuclear weapons arsenal, as the systems were designed to be operated by Moscow. Ukraine could have spent time and money repurposing them or building from scratch, as they did have a significant portion of Soviet engineers regarding this matter, but for a nation that was completely broke, the heavy investment costs in what was already starting to become an aging nuclear arsenal was also a crippling financial thought, and it would radically alter its dynamic with nations around the world. To be fair, Ukraine also gave them up for Russian, American, and British guarantees over their political, territorial, and economic integrity. So it is Russia who most specifically betrayed Ukraine, however, I do agree that if the United States, United Kingdom, and NATO broadly, along with the European Union, stood firm and strong with Ukraine the moment that Russia invaded Crimea, let alone by the moment that they began their invasion in the Donbas region, the conflict would have ended many years ago and Russia wouldn't have dreamed of considering full on conventional military invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Even since the 2022 February invasion, our support in the "West" hasn't been anywhere near as unified, as determined, as strong, and supportive of Ukraine as I want. Ukraine shouldn't have to worry about whether or not they'll be able to fund the conflict, and shouldn't have to ask or effectively beg for equipment and the ability to properly utilize it. The war has dragged on as the "West" slowly warms to expanding support and the scope of ability for Ukraine as Russia proves time and time again that their "red lines" are bluffs, nothing but bluffs. I would never want to start a war with Russia, and I would definitely never want to just dive into invading Russia, but there is a difference between starting a war with Russia and finishing the war that Russia started. We also have to remember that nations around the world are watching closely to see how the US, NATO,, and Western nations respond. China regarding Taiwan and the South China Sea broadly. Iran in regards to Saudi Arabia and Israel, North Korea, and others are keen to see what fractures and weaknesses exist so as to exploit them. A strong, united, and defiant stance against Russia would let the world know that the "West" is united and that the age of imperialism is not to be brought back in the 21st century.
@@Mr.Septon The weak response of a "dying empire" is exactly what will lead to world war 3, because the west has had countless lines that should not be crossed as well. And while I agree that it at the very least was in EU interest to aid Ukraine, it was the actual DUTY and PROMISE of the US and UK, NATO as a whole has no responsibility in this unless a member is attacked, and consists of members that have little to no interest in Ukraine strategically. The UK and US have been weak and have been fools on the international stage, they have broken their promises and guarantees, have been hypocrites even. And NATO and the EU seems obsessed with inefficiency indecision and self sabotage rather than any sort of meaningful coherent action. The thing that would have averted it all would have been instantly pushing back Russia in Ukraine, as after Georgia it should have been clear. The lack of action and perceived weakness is what will and has emboldened emerging and rouge states alike, and is what will end with a situation that when there is finally a line not to be crossed no one will take it seriously, and there will inevitably be world war as a consequence. A simple look at the history books before major conflicts will show that currently the world is following the blueprint with terrifying accuracy. I pray that I am wrong, but I fear that history is repeating itself as we did not remember nor learn the lessons of past mistakes.
There was a reason why NATO countries scrambled after the fall of the Soviet Union to keep nuclear weapons out of the hand of a Ukrainian state. The risk was to high in the early 1990th and is to high today.
There can’t be a betrayal. Nobody swore loyalty to Ukraine at the end of the day they just tried to help as much as they could but they can just stop whenever they need to
Also, as the US elections are fastly approaching, many political exports fear a inevitable rapid increase of political violence, riots and extremists, as the same echo chambers that have led to the USA 2021 capital riots are starting again on the Internet and social media. 55% of Republican voters have claimed that they will NOT except this year's election results if Trump loses. About 11% of Democrats said the same thing if Kamala Harris loses. To make matters worse for the USA, the Senate and House of Representatives is likely to end in a divided Congress. We might not even see Republicans or Democrats secure a majority in the US house, which would cause political instability. After the elections, there is a greater possibility the USA moves to instead focus on its own internal domestic affairs rather then foreign issues, no matter who wins the presidency. Under a Trump presidency, the USA would probably take a more vague and uncertain isolationist stance, similar to that of India for example.
Thank you for your presentation. I have shared it with others as valuable source of opinion. I do tend to disagree on certain aspects, but acknowledge its a tough and cimplicated game. Yet, it seems too early to classify the Victory plan as a wrong and failed proposal. As you said, dynamics are part of this game on many levels. Recently, Ukraine referred to nuclear weapons as alternative for NATO, whole North Koreans stirr up things with active deployment of troops. Strangly enough, NATO seems more disturbed by Ukrainian nukes then North Korean troops invading and fighting in an European country. I agree the responsibility for Kjiv to take their part serious. But in their situation, one could argue the bigger weight should and must be pulled by its allies, with their military, political and economic weight. The real issue is not the Victory plan itself - but the total lack of vision and true leadership from Washington, Berlin and their allies. In the land of blind people, the one-eyed man will be crowned king. A bad or imperfect plan is better then no plan at all. Still, there is no unified pro-active Western plan, as viable alternative for the Victory plan of Kjiv. As said: next year, new round, new games, new cards to play. This war seems far from over but still - quite dynamic. It can be over tomorrow - or still continue for years to come. We see this in the military and economic perspective: a war of attrition. It hurts both sides and others, that's actually the purpose of such approach after all. Who has the longest breath. Maybe we can apply the same attrition to political and diplomatic ventures, as well this concept of the Victory plan. While its mediocre, there is no alternative - neither any proposals of Russia, China or Brics will be taken seriously by enough people. So the war of words also continues, as a part of the war of attrition. To be continued...
Washington definitely does lack some sound leadership at the moment as they are indecisive and have a poor understanding of how this conflict is going to end. However, regardless of the fact that it still tries to play tough and wouldn't want to show any signs of weakness or lose this strategic proxy war against Russia, there is no decision that Washington can make at the moment that will be a good one, all roads lead to bad results, its just a question of which is the least bad of the lot. The attrition route will ultimately work against Ukraine regardless of who wins the US elections unless Washington is willing to escalate by lifting weapons restrictions on Ukraine, which will not win the war but will definitely hurt Russia a great deal. At that point, you can be almost certain that the Russians will do something drastic in response in order to save face and preserve, as they would call it, their national interests and long-term security. The west would be truly naïve if they think the Russians have not already put plans in place for that eventuality - all speculations about Russia have been wrong since this conflict began especially with regards to intelligence, economy, geopolitical clout, and to an extent even military capabilities. The smartest decision would be to opt for a diplomatic solution because the military one has already been fraught with lots of intelligence, political, and even social failures considering the fact that the nations in support of Kiev are democracies, i.e. at the whim of their electorate who may have been willing to make sacrifices for Kiev at the start because the realities of war were still far from them but will inevitably move into other matters of much closer consideration, the exception for now would probably be those closest to a possible Russian threat. As much as I really don't want the Russians to prevail in this conflict, the west has been an embarrassment, showing that their enforcement of the so called rules based order is only when it suits them, the increasing realization of this has made many nations around the world, such as the so called global south, shift their support, perhaps not publicly, to the Russian side. The failure of sanctions and the frustration it has caused for nations that have their own problems and cannot be bothered with Ukraine, only adds to the declining status of EU nations and the U.S as the voice of alternative centers of finance and trade grow ever louder. I also don't like to speak of this as if it were a game because lives and families are being destroyed because of the incompetence of politicians across board.
Support for Ukraine in the USA is also lukewarm. Especially among GenZ, African Americans and Hispanic voters, 3 voting blocs that genuinely don't care about foreign policies. Among African Americans, 51% support Ukraine, among GenZ Americans, 53% support Ukraine and among Hispanic Americans, 57% support Ukraine. Among un-college educated white Americans, their support for Ukraine dropped from 65% in 2022 to only 54% as of 2024. Among Americans as a whole, 56% support Ukraine, down from 79% back in 2022. College educated WHITE Americans have the largest support for Ukraine, with 88% of College educated white Americans supporting Ukraine.
Ukraine spent it's best people's lives to give you time to take action. Let's hope the world is ready to what will be next after Ukraine is forced to join russia in it's next imperialistic ambitions.
it gave the lives of those men to defend its country, like that Vitaliy Skakun Volodymyrovych that tried to stop the russian advance from Crimea in the beginning of war by blowing up with a bridge...
If Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it would have done so after the US backed coup in 2014 that overthrow an elected government. Russia chose peace again and again but ultimately they saw that America was not going to back down and was only arming Ukraine more and more with ever more Ukrainian nazi's being turned into storm ttroops with nato interoperability.
I don't think Russia is interested in Nuclear war with NATO. And the wars on the ground is mostly war of someones' money and influence nowadays, to which we pay with our actual lives.
I bet the West will love it when Ukraine falls under a full Russian control with the Ukrainian battle hardened troops get mobilised in the the Russian army while the US withdraws its forces from Europe as Trump threatens. This will make Russia a sole hegemon of Europe.
The Left hates the west and hate liberalism. The right hates the west and hate liberalism. Yeah, there is no one left to defend freedom, we squandered it and let the fanatics take over.
Ukraine is allied with EU Globailst USA UK neocon crooks. Ukraine governement is the enemy. picked the wrong friends if they expect anything from most people. Should have fought against the EU diktats instead of slobbering cia right sector tools then youd have more support of actual populations. Zelensky world tour shaking hands with all the politcal hacks that common people despise and crying why is my support dropping. what a fool.
No one but maybe the British elite is going to risk their people for a massive war with Russia. No idea why you guys think Russia can be defeated when that only means it goes nuclear and takes Europe and North AMerica down with it.
All things said...Ukaine has managed to stop the second most powerful military in the world, and that in itself deserves a lot of credit. Even though Western weapons have helped, it has ultimately been the ukrainian people that held the line.
The USA only sent 10% of their approved military aid to Ukraine. There will probably be no more US aid to Ukraine, until this year's election and political turmoil is over. Political exports already fear if political violence in the USA as the same echo chambers that started the capital riots in 2021, are spreading through social media this year again. 45% of Americans already did they will not except this year's election results if their party does not win, the overwhelming majority of that 45% came from Republican voters. There has already been a group of 8 teenagers in Florida terrorizing and waving machetes in Democratic voters faces at early voting booths.
what this war goes to show is that Ukraine is indeed a split country, as the russians say. When the question of lowering the conscription age comes, it is not so much about them being the flower of the future of Ukraine, its much more about western ukrainians not being willing to fight in donbass as they haven't, for decades, no connections with it. No youth in Lviv or Kiev is interested in what happens in Donbass. For them,donbass is has almost the same significance as for a Romanian. This is the reality, unfortunately. All the soviet "nation building" is coming to bite
Best case scenario for the Ukraine war the way I see it 1) Donbass and Luhansk are handed off to Russia 2) DMZ is created on the border 3) Ukraine is rebuilt and pushed fast into the EU with aggressive reforms set by the member states 4) Ukraine westernizes its military 5) EU normalization with Russia and the removing of sanctions/frozen assets in return for certain reparations 6) Russia gets assurances that Ukraine will not be permitted into NATO If somebody could swing this, it would be perfect. Dragging this war of attrition does nobody any good. The only way Ukraine could get back its territories would be if they had complete and total air superiority which could only be done if NATO planes and carriers do so. But NATO is not going to intervene when a nuclear power is in question unless one of its states is directly attacked, which, at this point, it isn't.
@@serhiy-serhiiv I'm not convinced. Total GDP is something that needs to be looked at and the rate at which the economy would recover. I'm not saying the Ukranians don't know how to do it, I'm just saying that I don't know that it's fiscally possible. And it's opening a new can of worms, nuclear proliferation is always a slippery slope.
The "West" is not a uniform block. Some nations - Nordics + Baltics + NL - are providing a lot aid, but are not big on weapons production except for Sweden. I am saddened by especially US, GER & FRA. These countries have the capacity, the industry but are not willing to provide substantial help to Ukraine. This might sound odd to you, but DK provides about 4 times more aid than the US & GER, and much more compared to FRA. 7 Bln USD from a country of 6 Mio people. But we dont have any weapons industry and have exhausted our resources. What I want to point out is that not all countries are holding back. That said I too think the "Victory plan" was a disappointment. Naive I would almost call it. There is no way Ukraine can join NATO before this conflict is settled - simple as that. Ukraine/Zelenskyy should have known this - and probably did. But apparently he found it important for domestic political reasons. Thats not credible and somehow irrelevant to Western leaders. The point of mobilising the whole population is ambiguous. On the one side I respect the Ukrainian view and the population pyramid, but on the other side it sends a signal that if UA is somehow not willing to go all in them selves - then why should others? I mean a NATO membership might result in the rest if NATO sending our young to die in Ukraine.
Because I was born in a country with a real conscription, not a Nordic one of a 6month vacation I can say this: If you actually draft every male from 18 to 45, you economy will crash. Also, you can have 2 or 5, maybe 6 million men. Great! What does that matter when you still can only arm 500k? You want them to run with sticks at minefields? What about the logistical support? How are you moving them? Also, syaing: we are mobilizing everyone will have the Russians go on a total mobilization. Will the Europeans actually mobilize, fuck no. So it doesn't help anything.
@@jjj8317 I think You might misinterpret my remarks on drafting young men. I dont advocate for Ukraine to draft every male in this age group. I am only stating that it sends a signal that Ukraine is not "all in" them selves, that they despite their situation are not willing to do everything in their power. They are asking to join NATO now. This holds a big potential that all other NATO countries will have to send troops, that is their own young men to fight and die in Ukraine. This scenario is a bit crazy if Ukraine are not willing to draft their own young men. Thats all I am saying. I can only speak for DK, and very few people are being drafted here at all. We only draft the deficit between volunteer contract soldiers and the wanted quantity. Since we cut our army so much in recent years this number has been very low. But the mistaken policy has been admitted and we will grow our army again and conscription period will rise to 11 months again. Our defense will receive extra funding of 21 Bln usd over the next 10 years not incl aid to Ukraine. Why should NATO members mobilize when we're not at war? Makes absolutely no sense.
@@stevenhawking6096 You have been listening to Trump I guess? Current US delivered contribution is 85 Bln €. Thats equivalent to 0.4% of GDP and puts the US in 24th place over donor countries.
@@LK-jl3pc first of all, I haven’t been listening to Trump, he’s been listening to the people here. And FYI, it’s his opponents administration that’s been delivering “unsubstantial aid” thus far. Anyways, focusing on “delivered aid” is delusional framing. $174b is already agreed upon, with no end in sight. The only reason they haven’t given more is because our government is already so far beyond the definition of over-budget that we literally cannot spare more money, without exacerbating the already rampant inflation. Secondly, what percentage of US GDP is enough? It’s literally a conflict that has nothing to do with the US, shouldn’t be our problem at all. No amount of “oh well all these other countries are helping” will change the fact that Americans are so completely tired of funding wars that have nothing to do with us, and spending more for NATO defense than any other NATO country. Don’t get me wrong, I want Russia to lose. Ukraine doesn’t deserve what’s happening to it, at all. But I care infinitely more about my mom’s finances than some foreign country who’s never done anything for me, and that’s the sentiment of most Americans.
Really love your videos. Still so glad to hear your voice reporting again. People listen to this channel for your research and reporting. It's good to change things up, but I think the fans of your channel spoke in your favour and you listened.
@@dosmastrify Yeah, just reminding him that we're here for him. All comments and engagement help with the videos/algorithm. Have you liked the video? I've noticed only about 10% of people like videos and even less comment. Every comment helps
Your hysterics just make me yawn. Russia can't, and won't try to, conquer the many nations that are now in NATO. And if they try, which they won't, NATO can worry about that when nations that are, you know, actually in their "defensive" alliance are attacked.
"We dont like your victory plan. Not bcs it wont work, but bcs we dont want to take a part in it. Pls make another victory plan, where you win and we dont do anything, and we will agree. Also you should take into account the fact that you are losing bcs we already dont help"
He forgot to mention the decrease in support for Ukraine aid in the USA. Right now, support for Ukraine is Lukewarm with only 55% of Americans supporting aid to Ukraine, with 42% against further military aid. This was a dropped from the 79% of support for Ukraine in the USA back in 2022. Among African Americans, only 51% support further military aid to Ukraine. Among GenZ Americans, only 53% support military aid to Ukraine, and among Native Americans 49% supported further military aid to Ukraine. Among non-college educated white voters, their support for Ukraine dropped from 66% in 2022, to only 55% today. Bottom line is, the American public seems rather split on weather they should continue further military support for Ukraine.
When you are told you cannot use long range weapons when Russia can get missiles and troops for other places and use them without abandon, what do you expect? Madness.
@@Tjurenful no US should have kept its promise after ww2 when it signed a pact to not increase Nato territories towards east and ukraine should have been neutral, all putin asked of them was to remain neutral as russia didnt want NATO sitting beside their homeland and starting a new civil war, read some history before making yourself a fool on the internet
Mobilizing young men aged 18-25 to demonstrate Ukraine’s determination to the West? Haven’t Ukrainians already proven their resolve by standing against Russia for the past decade, especially in the last two years? Must Ukraine further risk its demographic future to once again showcase its commitment, perhaps to nations like Poland, where citizens blocked the border for months last year while the government looked the other way? If the war ends on terms acceptable to Russia, they will likely regroup and launch a second, more successful offensive. One wonders, when Poland sees Russian soldiers near its border, will it, just as it does with Ukraine, demand apologies for historical events like Katyn and insist on access to investigations such as the Smolensk air disaster? I agree that this plan seems unrealistic and overconfident, but demanding even more from Ukraine just to again demonstrate to the West a willingness to continue the war, especially in hopes of receiving crucial weapons that weren’t supplied when Ukraine’s armed forces were at their strongest - seems equally flawed. Ukraine is certainly not at fault here; Ukraine has done far more than was required and exceeded all expectations. (The emphasis on Poland is solely due to the author’s nationality.)
well yes, of course Ukraine has to mobilize 2 million more people and send them running at Russian defensive line with nothing but sticks, that would for sure be of benefit to a Ukraine that lacks people to build weapons, not people to use the weapons. I they wont even do that then why should the west mildly inconvenience themselves to help Ukraine?
With the way the war is going Russia will likely not allow the Ukraine to have a independent state. The ukraine has done very poorly on the battlefield the last few years
As a Ukrainian and many Ukrainians around me, we already feel betrayed. Not the West, no, the countries of Western Europe help out of their good will and we will never forget it. But the Americans and the British have an obligation, we are the only country in the world that voluntarily gave up nuclear weapons, for security guarantees, and what did we get for that? One guarantor attacked us, and the other two are holding us back for fear of escalation. Our cities and villages turned into a World War I nightmare, we lost hundreds of thousands of people, AND THEY TELL US ABOUT ESCALATION.
@@doozledorf7036 Unlike others, you have an obligation to us. What do you think I will crawl in front of you? We decided to fight when we had absolutely nothing, including a chance to win, so I'd rather spit in your face.
"And we never forget that". Germans slaughtered you in WW2 and now you erasing monument to those who stopped it - Red Army. Yeah, you are quite famous for gratitude .
Aren’t we supposed to change the current reality of our political leadership and cure the laziness and procrastination even the reluctance? It is up to us. Leaders that won’t protect humanity in Ukraine will not protect it at home either.
While the video provides a thorough analysis of the challenges Ukraine faces, it misses a crucial point: the West cannot afford to let Ukraine fall. The increasing war fatigue and geopolitical distractions in Western capitals, as discussed, are concerning, but abandoning Ukraine would not only be a moral failure, it would also set a dangerous precedent for international order and security. Zelensky’s “Victory Plan” may be imperfect, but that doesn’t negate the broader imperative that the West should do more - not less - to support Ukraine. The video suggests that Ukraine’s demands are unrealistic given the current geopolitical landscape, but this argument overlooks the stakes of the conflict. If Ukraine is left to negotiate from a weakened position, it won't just be Ukraine that suffers; it could embolden authoritarian regimes globally, especially Russia, to exploit Western hesitance in future conflicts. This would lead to more instability, not peace. The notion that the West has more pressing concerns, such as the rivalry with China or tensions in the Middle East, is shortsighted. The war in Ukraine is not an isolated issue; it’s a critical front in the broader fight for global democratic values and the rule of law. Allowing Russia to succeed would shift the balance of power toward aggressive, revisionist states and undermine decades of international progress. Moreover, the pursuit of peace should not come at the expense of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Any negotiation must aim for a just and lasting peace, not a forced compromise that leaves Ukraine at the mercy of future Russian aggression. Yes, the West must be pragmatic, but it also needs to be principled. Peace is not simply the absence of conflict; it’s the presence of justice and security for all parties involved. Instead of turning away from Ukraine in the face of difficulties, the West should double down on efforts to support its defense, while also fostering diplomatic initiatives that bring a real and sustainable resolution to the war. Failing to do so will only prolong the conflict, create more instability, and weaken the global response to future crises. The geopolitical events, as mentioned in the video, are already trending in the wrong direction, with more conflict likely on the horizon. The West must act decisively now, not retreat into passivity. In conclusion, while the video rightly critiques Ukraine’s approach, it underestimates the disastrous consequences of reduced Western support. Rather than focusing on what Ukraine could do differently, we should be asking what more the West can and must do to prevent a catastrophic outcome, for Ukraine, Europe, and the world at large. **TLDR:** The West must not abandon Ukraine, as doing so would fuel global instability. Increased support is crucial to securing a just and lasting peace, preventing further conflict and safeguarding international security.
This has nothing to do with 'democracy' or it's values. Ukraine is not a 'democratic' nation nor has it ever been especially since 2014. Stop spreading disinformation on the internet.
Seems to me that you are very optimistic about Ukraine, to a lot of people it looks like they want everything for ¨free¨ not compromising on anything just gladly recieving aid, thats not something they could have hoped lasted a long time and it already shows.
Your analysis is not firmly based in reality. It looks to me you believe that Ukrainians do (or did) have a decent chance of prevailing in this tragic conflict. Unfortunately, they never had much chance. Minsk 1 and 2 and Istambul negotiations were Ukraine's best chances to achieve less bad outcome. Important note: they never had any chance of gaining back Crimea. With the help of their Werstern masters, Kiev completely ignored physical limitations to their own powers and chose the escalation of the war. After three years of going the wrong way, Ukraine is not changing her approach while her chances of winning are keep on decreasing. At this point, it is hard to even name a miracle which would change the current nearly catastrophic situation.
"If you ask us, we would totally help Ukraine to the last drop of our blood, so please believe us and keep watching our channel, but... now we will explain to you, dear Ukrainians and their supporters, why it's not actually out investors fault, that Ukraine will be betrayed, because we took the word 'betrayal' in quotes". Ah... those western colonial values.
America can't keep up with the world that it supposedly leads. It keeps trying to hand the matter over to someone else but this has been made difficult because (1) the United Kingdom bailed on the European Union, (2) Germany can't get over itself, (3) France is French first and European second, (4) Poland has spirit but is too poor and keeps having to balance it's domestic issues, (5) Hungary is determined to remain Moscows Best Friend in any outcome, (6) the Baltic States can't, and (7) Canada has some strong words for Russia, and to be sure those have had all the impact of an seagull taking a shit in Egypt. It will end the same way it begins, with Ukraine saying, "Fuck this, I'll do it myself." Everything from pushing out Yanukovych to helping Golenkov find his hammer. And that won't change. Victory favours the bold, and nobody is bolder than Ukraine. Keep it up. Nobody gets help from North Korea unless they're down to the marrow.
many western nations also have been weakened by multiculturalism,debt and lgbtq. The truth is many people have a short attention span and dont really care about this conflict. As long if it does not affect them.
While I appreciate that view point, Ukraine just can’t do anything without American or European weapons. Ukraine loses without the West, and Kim Jong Un is saying he’ll have troops in Ukraine by November 1st or some shit like that. Either way, Ukraine could be a lost cause without direct foreign intervention, perhaps on behalf of SK since none of Europe can do anything about it
This war never meant to be won on the battlefield, but through sanctions with more than 19.000 sanctions imposed. Since that failed, the end of UA was sealed given the west is far from competing with RU in a war of attrition! So the real question, is how the west underestimated the Ru economy resilience, that's a monumental failure right there, the consequence of which is having a huge impact on the international world order as new powers raising! As of the victory plan, it is nonsense mostly: 1. joining NATO will never happen as long as the country is at war or under occupation, which is totally justified form the POV of the other members, despite what they publicly say/bs, no one from NATO is ready to send troops to die in UA, that's a fact! (I am talking about main/historical/core NATO) 2. sending more material is justified, but ignores the fact that many countries already reached their limit! 3. deploying NATO systems to UA is not possible since that will trigger a direct confrontation with RU, and again, no one from the west is ready to die there! 4. this is the bait/carrot to raise support for the other points. Sadly, it is not enough and regardless, this will happen anyway since UA will have to pay its debts at some point! 5. replacing US troops is nonsense since it is not the lack of troops these countries have, but the symbolism of US presence with all its might including its nuclear deterrence. Frankly, suggesting this point is beyond ideotic! And I am pretty sure many EU countries feel insulted by such suggestion that UA will send troops to protect them!
As an American I 100% agree, the Western world greatly underestimated the resilience of the Russian economy, US sanctions did absolutely NOTHING to them 😂 which is a major blow to the United States. If US sanctions can't hurt Russia, then they most certainly won't hurt China either lol.
South Korea isn't going to war for Ukraine. It's all posturing right now. They have an impressive Military Industrial Complex that is making huge strides in international exports. No leader will change that for a costly & potentially existential war for Ukraine.
@@glorioustigereye He very clearly said maybe they'll get into a proxy war with the North to test their weapons. Rocket man was hurling ballistic missiles around SE Asia for fun not too long ago. ROK are putting their heads above the parapet to show solidarity & no more. Ukraine isn't selling resources, it's selling promises of rights to resources they never had and increasingly look like will only be further from a reality with Trump.
The US has spent much of the last 70 years backing its NATO allies, Israel, and Taiwan. South Vietnam and the Afghans were abandoned as a lost cause because they had little interest in defending themselves and suffered from massive corruption, both basically collapsed the second US forces pulled out of any area because they just gave up immediately. Propping them up is like funding a drug addict: if they refuse treatment your only choices are to fund their habit forever or let them hit rock bottom in the hopes they bounce back only in politics that means sacrificing your own citizens lives and not just their money. And since you brought up 2 other mid-east places what about Iraq? The US did fuck them up but also spent 8 years occupying Iraq and has spent the following 13 years and counting propping them up. The worlds largest embassy was built by the US The situation with the Kurds is largely thanks to Turkey who basically cause problems in NATO and threatens to give Russia unrestricted access if NATO nations dont stop helping Kurds because Turkey is locked in a never ending ethnic war with their Kurdish subjects. That sitaution is largely thanks to Turkey for being genocidal assholes and to a lesser extent to European nations for fucking up Kurdistan's borders and splitting the Kurdish people up among 3 major nations making it almost impossible for them to have a state of their own. Doesnt help that Iraq and Iran do much the same as Turkey violently crush the Kurds while causing problems anytime anyone helps them out.
@@arthas640South Vietnam was different. They did fight and they did hold out. They were promised air support and aid if North Vietnam broke their treaty and invaded again. The Democrats in the US Congress at the time betrayed them for domestic political reasons.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 They were betrayed, but Moscow and China really didnt care for North Vietnam either at the end and were more interested in having good US relations. Even when US pilots were finally allowed to bomb haiphong harbor where all the soviets ships full of tanks arrived and they damaged soviet ships there was no reaction from Moscow. Comparing South Vietnam to Ukraine id say that South Vietnam had all the equipement but didnt have the fighting spirit. While Ukraine has the fighting spirit but not the equipement. Imagine if the US had send Himars on the first week of the invasion....
It warms my heart to see even NATO fanboys admitting that the jig is up. I look forward to my taxes finally paying for things that workers need in America, instead of paying for the wars of regimes that ban elections, communists, and Orthodoxy.
My heart is even more joyful, buddy! Finally, your shop will be closed and the money that went to the Republican weapons factories under the "Ukrainian aid program", went to simple uncouth redneck workers who sharpened their metal blanks on machines - will now go to REALLY IMPORTANT things, namely, to support the multi-gender queer community, and your rednecks and Republicans, having lost military orders under the Ukrainian aid program, will lose their jobs and will either starve, or go with us to gamedev to earn blackrock money, promoting gender diversity and rights! I enjoy watching how fools, on the orders of Trump bought by Putin, shoot themselves in the foot! Hahahaha, your muscular industrial factories for the sake of producing military products to replace old weapons sent to Ukraine - will soon come to an end, ahahaha! Respect people with gender diversity!
Nah, U.S. weapon manufacturing will keep working with Ukraine as long as Ukraine keeps asking for it. No way, are they giving up that contract machine because of a populist movement. We saw what happened to Kennedy.
@@SA2004YG why would they care. It ain't Ukraine that's paying. It's the US government asking for new guns. The big issue is the politics. The economics will sort themselves like they did with the marshall plan
@SA2004YG Ukraine isn't paying for it. Taxpayers are. They are one of the poorest countries in Europe. They do have a lot of resources, and hold a strategic place in Eurasia. That's more valuable then any fiat monetary gains.
@@blackmatterlives9865 that's the point it's legal money laundering and inflating the dollar even more, this second civil conflict can't start fast enough
So, the Victory plan is a failure, Ukraine joining Nato or the EU is not a reality even despite all the promises and public assurances from both EU, NATO and UA. The UAF fronts are not holding Russia's advances and Ukraine is lacking urgent support that has been put on a definitive hiatus from all their "friends"...
@@MrKakibuySure, but Ukraine's lost about 20% of it's territory and the future it's not looking good, is it? Your concept of war effort is childish, even this video attempt to paint a "all's not lost" picture of the current situation for Ukraine cannot hide all the reality of the facts depicted. The points in the Victory Plan are unreasonable and have been largely ignored by their allies.
@@laloelsalamanca this channel is not more or less accurate than any other western analyst, so their doomy mood means literally nothing. Yes the situation is bleak but it goes for both sides. Russia can't even muster enough soldiers to liberate Sudzha. Their economy is in high stagflation and there are serious doubts on wether they war economy can push another 1-2 years of war.
nobody said Ukraine was going to join NATO anytime soon. A precondition to join NATO is you cant have any border disputes: you either keep the claim and dont join or you give up any claim to territory and then can join. To join Ukraine would either need to control Crimea or cede it to Russia so NATO membership was NEVER going to happen until the war was effectively over and Russia got pushed back to their own border. Similarly the EU has typical European bureaucracy and there's a bunch of prerequisites you have to meet before you can negotiate joining. Many former Warsaw Pact nations took a decade or more to join the EU and regulations have only gotten more complex since the 1990s and Ukraine only started the ball rolling in 2014. It's harder to rapidly liberalize in general but in the middle of a war and occupation its even harder, it took Poland around a decade for example and that was when the process was easier. Like Poland used to have parts of the country where you couldnt live if you were gay, that's something the EU was fine with in 1994 but something a nation wouldnt be able to get away with in 2024.
Yet Ukraine makes stupid decisions. It should rely on Nordics, Baltic states and Central Europe (Poland, Czech Rep, Romania). Instead they fall into arms of nations who don't care and only delay help (France, Germany). Ukraine won't stand a chance with that politics. Especially antagonising Poland. If Poland stop caring about Ukraine - Ukraine is gone.
Personally, this was written in Stone. What happened to our Kurdish brothers in our war against ISIS? What will happen to our Philippine brothers in the future?
Uh, well the Philippines are like hundreds upon hundreds of different islands. I highly doubt China can muster up the navy to launch a full scale invasion of the Philippines OR Taiwan even if they wanted to. China's ground force might be formidable but their navy and Air Force is laughable. You would have to be crazy to think China's navy or Air Force would even stance a chance against the USA. In fact, in a possible Chinese invasion of the Philippines, the Philippines could probably hold them off alone.
The world now resembles the Titanic. On the upper decks, Europe and America are still enjoying life. Down below, water is already flooding in, and Ukraine is trying to hold back the current with whatever means it has.
Ukraine has lost at summer 2023 when it deployed huge forces heavily equipped for months and threw them on the Surovikine ligne, only breaching it in one single point, the village of Robotyne (which has been lost since then). Ukraine insisted for month, had a tremendous amount of losses, both in equipment and human (which is top secret Ukrainian info, not a good sign all all), and lost all initiative since then. Even their small offensive this summer in the Kursk Oblast, a region that had nearly 0 Russian brigade to defend it only managed to gain 1000km² in around 15 days, before being stopped and slowly pushed back by Russian troop urgently sent in reinforcement. In 2022, the same Ukrainian army was able to repel around 100 000 Russian soldiers located around Kharkov, Izium , and throw them back begind the Oskil River in less than 3 weeks. Ukraine has clearly lost it's abilities to attack and to have the initiative. And it all started with that massive counter offensive in 2023 failing massively, and all the Ukrainian supporters were in denial about it. One year after, the things are coming clear now: Ukraine cannot win this war anylonger. It's now will have to undergo the Russian advance until the armistice is signed and a territorial split of Ukraine is decided.
Everyone said that Kursk added a lot of uncertainty to the war. In the end it added a lot of chaos and cost a few towns in the east, but overall there was minimal impact.
It’s hard to know without the possibility of knowing what would have happened otherwise but I agree, that it has so far been inconsequential. However the speculation was that Russian territory would be exchanged for captured Ukrainian land in an eventual peace deal. Of course this hasn’t happened so far. It’s more like a „Faustpfand“
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 it was a right move. We showed that russia won't start a nuclear war. But sullivan is still "doesn't want to escalate", which literally mean "the US doesn't want russia to loose"
I am shocked how EU and US advise - demand from Ukrainians to lower conscript age but themsevls been total cowards to shoot down ruzzian missiles over their territory or giving a permission to strike ruzzia back 😢
because the United States is not capable of defeating Russia on the battlefield, it is technically weak. This is not a 20th century war against people in flip-flops on a Toyota Hilux
@@naryu4352 dude, the United States is the strongest, richest, most well-equipped, well-trained and battle proven military on the entire planet by a country MILE. They outspend the next 9 countries in the world COMBINED in terms of defense spending. The US would absolutely STEAMROLL Russia in a military conflict. The problem is that the US refuses to send anything to Ukraine, not that the US can’t
@@naryu4352Do you really believe that? 😂 Especially after the Devastation caused by the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan? Though a failure the USA left both nations in total ruin.
Yes there is reliance, but solely? No. Europe has a big military industrial base itself and while military preparedness has been eroded and made more reliant on the US umbrella, using the word "solely" is just straight up wrong
@@sparks1792Nope. Not now not ever. Please do not mistake a bunch of tankie loudmouths for the silent grey majority. Most of us went to the beaches of Omaha and Utah to pay our respect at least once in our lives. And words like "Ich bin ein Berliner" through to "Mr Gorbatchov, tear down this wall" are engraved on our collective European DNA. Auld lang syne - my friend, auld lang syne.
@@sparks1792 When the US invaded Iraq under the false pretense of evidence of WMDs? Yes, that was warmongering. The fact that you're willing to betray your allies does not undo your warmongering. Two wrongs do not make a right :p
The U.S. political system is fickle and constantly changing, every 4-8 years. Ukraine's "leadership" putting its faith in constant U.S. support, was a miscalculation at best and idiotic at worst. A short look at U.S. political will and U.S. involvement in conflicts over the last 60 years tells the story. If the U.S. is directly attacked, then yes the will is there. But a half a world away, more likely than not, it is not over time.
For some in the West it might seem like a great idea for Ukraine to go all in, even to the point where Kiev is defended by Volkssturm-style units manned by the very young and very old. Not primarily becase this would be very likely to grant Ukraine victory, but because it would certainly make the war more costly for Russia. Should Ukraine lose and end up in the Russian sphere of influence it might also seem very helpful. If Ukraine was reduced to rubble with noone left to work the fields but the elderly, the crippled and the dead then surely Ukraine would be of little use to a victorious Russia? For this channel to at current state of affairs urge further sacrifices from Ukraine, is it not basically to encourage a compulsive gambler? "Come on Ukraine, just one final bet! You can still win it all back! This time it will be different! And if you do then the West might absolutely at some unspecified point in time and in a manner yet to be determined make it worth your bloody sacrifice!"
US has tried to influence Ukraine to come to negotiation table, whilst Ukraine is now threatening developing of nukes. It's not betrayal, simply punishment for not doin what their allies want
US publicly screamin for peace while whispering in Ukraines ear "yeeees kill as many as you can" youre fool to believe public statements are the true intentions
When looked and compared the support of both wars of Israel and Ukraine I can’t help feeling quite disappointed with how the severity was judged on morality in the first place… Israel seems to be the ally of the USA just because it’s the birthplace for Christianity (who have been involved in so many wars since its very existence.) Ukraine has been anticipating on economically development and free trade instead of just being in a state of war or major conflict, riots or uprising hostile mentality (in short constantly unstable regimes in expectation of a new war.) They just didn’t choose to live the victim or the agressor life. Israel on the other hand…. There will never be absolute peace in this region ever (unfortunately…) I wish all people of Israel and Ukraine a better and peaceful life soon. It seems like they’re just being punished for their choice for freedom since they have been declared independence from Russia.
That’s your issue, believing Ukraine and Israel are similar with each other. Israel is essentially Russia, they commit genocide and ethnically cleansing the land.
The soldier replacement move was directed solely towards the US. Its them who benefit from retiring the garrisons. One could arge the whole plan was made to get the US on board despite the European opinion, as one could asume they would follow the US lead if aproved.
Russia is not suffering . Only their subjects are terribly suffering. Russia is not a nation state, it’s an Empire of ruling Russians and Asian subjects.
1. US polls and the rules around them, do skew older and therefore trump. Also there are a lot of black and latino men who say they support trump but likely won’t vote. They will answer the poll, but they aren’t dedicated. It’s still really close, and here in a major swing region of a swing state, it’s very 50/50 2. I think it’s time for Zelensky to step aside, his message is stale and his approach is too adversarial. 3. A ceasefire will allow Ukraine to continue to build their military capabilities, and allow some breathing room for energy companies to rebuild. 4. Ukraine can use a nato invite as a bargaining point without actually joining. The threat is something that russia must consider.
I'm a 20 year old black American man and I'm not voting in my opinion both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are the shittiest picks we've had in a very long time.
@@burprobrox9134 3. Why would Russia ceasefire, letting Ukraine to rebuild like it did since 2014 with NATOs help? 4. How is that a threat? This is what caused the war and your proposal is to threaten Russia with Ukraine's invitation? They don't care anymore and they will only stop if Ukraine restores its neutral status.
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Will you make an analysis of the possibility that the USA will sacrifice Ukraine to redirect support to Israel?
The facts - while Zelenskyy and his mafia are ruling the country: Ukraine will never be part of NATO, there won't be fair elections, there won't be enough weapons delivered to win the war. If people of Ukraine don't understand this yet - then there aren't much options left between holding, running or dieing. Winning with Zelenskyy - mission impossible.
president zelensky? you mean comedian dictator zelensky playing president.
ukrainians are rebelling same as the isrealis but it wont get reported because of legacy media.
we need to break this cycle of war.
solutions to problems instead of ear and blalkmail.
waiting on that excellence we hear from in history seems to be lies...
stay safe everyone
namaste
Watching from Poland, it seemed like America gave Ukraine weapons late, then gave enough weapons to fight to a standstill (not total victory), and then put restrictions on the use of those weapons. I don’t understand it.
The point of war should be victory.
thanks for good words. From Ukrainian prospective they are doing that cause they don't want russia to loose, they want save its face.
It was the same before Ukraine proclaimed the independence, Mr.Bush came to Ukraine to persuade not to declare independence, they didn't want nuclear weapon to spread, other bs
The point of this war is Russias defeat, not ukraines victory
do note that ukraine cannot win this war. The war will escalate with stronger ukraine
@@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804 They may learn eventually.......maybe.
@@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804 russias defeat will probably make the state collapse again like in 1991, all the territory will go back to Ukraine anyway
Russia doing its doctrine, does not need to beat the military just need to wait for the west to lose interest or get distracted by another issue (like Israel even though its actually tied into it but most dont do enough research to understand that)
Yeah western involvement in Israel is almost unheard of in the West. Most people dont even know they're a US ally and you never even hear Israel mentioned in the news or on the streets.
Is4ael is thousands of kilometers away it has no tie in. Beside US problem is China and keep funding ukrn and you get russia hounding you back like germany and nepoleon. US will not be left alone to even breath at china, prev 2 guys taking moscow were powerful than RUS too so forget US being superior
the problem is the west needs to distract their own population from their own internal problems
exactly this has been Putin's plan since the initial invasion went so bad just to wait out the west and so far it seems to be working sadly
Have you seen the photo ops done between Ukrainian and Israeli government officials? They're hilarious. The grandchildren of Banderites posing with the grandchildren of their victims. Nobody in those pictures seems to enjoy taking them.
Wasn't it already betrayed when Russia invalidated the Budapest Memorandum when it invaded?
I find it odd how people arbitrarily decide when history or events take place or start.
Unfortunately it was😢
That betrayal is clear and gives us no real foresight. The video is about the potential betrayal by the enemies of Ukraine's enemy.
I'm just curious, do the US really believe that they have some right to dictate to some states like Iran or N.Korea something related to their nuclear programs after this?
Everyone will have nukes, not only South Korea or Saudi Arabia, obviously Iran, but that is not the end of a list: Taliban, ISIS, Al-Qaeda will have them as well.
And now Americans must have a look at their southern border, the issue neither party wants to solve, And simply multiply these two facts: broken border and Al-Qaeda with nukes. Are you ready?
Basically now they are saying: Ukraine, you gave up your nukes, and now you must give up your territory, future, children.
Zelensky is absolutely supported by Ukrainians in his speech about nukes vs NATO, even though I didn't vote for him.
@@eugenedudnyk5242 it's okay brother, some of us here in the US are waiting and preparing
Yeah and Ukraine was set into a shadow embargo after 2014, nobody wanted t osell them anything and the gripen deal fell short because of the russian invasion in 2014
Arguably, the plan succeeded in exposing Western leaders’ dishonesty and cowardice to more people. The West’s leaders don’t want Ukraine to win; they fear even a slight prospect of Ukraine’s potential victory. Zelensky must also contend with this reality. Some argue that his candid approach will do more good than harm.
It's a balancing act. A lot of people seem to have forgotten that Russia is still a nuclear power. If Ukraine starts to threaten Russia for real, It is absolutely not impossible that the big missiles start flying. This, and only this, is the reason why the west haven't given Ukraine enough equipment to roll into Moscow.
@@Teutathisis exactly right
@@dosmastrify It's right in that this is why Western leaders have chickened out, but it's wrong in that Putin would seal his own fate if he started flinging nukes.
Ukrtaine can't win because they are too weak and their army leadership is complete crap.
@@Teutathis I suppose this will prove quite an example as to why every independent state needs the protection of a nuclear arsenal. The non proliferation paradigm rested on the idea that nukes were only there to deter a nuclear attack or some equivalent threat. It appears that possessing one gives you the licence to bully those that don't, provided you are willing to weather some economic fallout and a relentless barrage of strongly worded letters.
May I ask the authos of this video a question - if Ukraine offered to lower the conscription age, which would give Ukraine roughly a few extra years time to hold the line, what then after those few years?
I suppose US and EU would keep "dosing" us with 5 Abrams tanks here, 7 Leopad tanks there, while Ukaine slowly fades away.
Because so far we are being kept as an exchange coin and I don't believe it matters what would Zelensky offer to be honest.
Not lowering the conscription age appears to be the path away from victory though
@@dosmastrify lowering the consumption age is not a path to victory tho
Ofcourse it matters, right now your begging and not giving anything in return. Why would any western politician shoot itself in the foot to help Ukraine and then ruin their own careers...
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@@dosmastrifythere is no „path to victory“. The majority of the most experienced soldiers already died years ago. There is no point in lowering the age because if the experts could not do it the younger guys will only be there to die for sure. It is pointless and you could even argue murder to knowingly put them into this situation
If anyone still thinks Ukraine can get their territories back please wake up. When they tried to conduct their counter offensive they failed terribly. Since then their conditions are even worse so how in gods name would they be able to do it now?
The only chance for Ukraine to get their land back is if NATO gets involved but the possibility for this to happen is nearly zero. Nobody wants to die for Ukraine. Heck even Ukrainians don’t want to die for it and fled to other European states
They are allready betrayed. No weapons enough and the most ridiculous rules how to use those weapons.
How do you call the actions of ukrainian leaders then?
@@czwitek1995 who invaded who? You're looking to blame the victims.
@@czwitek1995 I don't know what actions you talk about .
This was the tragedy of South Vietnam when it got invaded by the North.
Only part I agree on is rules of use of said weapons--> ridiculous. The major part is they have no weapons to give other than the USA--> WHo doesn't give more than a big fart if Ukraine/Russia butcher themselves. Truth is from USA's perspective a giant stalemate between Ukraine/Russia is a good thing. One can argue that if USA truly wanted a better stalemate it should have given more, but here is the rub, USA has to worry about the middle East. IF USA gives all its armor to Ukraine who it really does not give a damn about, that means this is a GIANT GREEN LIGHT to IRAN to conquer Iraq/Kuwait/Saudi Arabia who collectively have NOTHING to defend against such an invasion. Heck at this point I would not be surprised if Turkey would not join Iran and attack Iraq if the USA was not around. 2/3 of the worlds oil and of the usable oil it is 3/4 of the worlds oil. Compared to this, Ukraine does not matter at all.
people need to understand that Ukraine lacks in the diplomacy department. They show very little good will towards their neighbors (I am Romanian so I know what I'm talking about,check the snake island trial, the Bystroe channel disaster,the Romanian minority targetting from Ukraine). They do this with Poland and Hungary,as well. In terms of diplomacy they have the same "school" as Russia, the "bully" school. Now they are in war and need help, yet their rethoric hasn't changed. You need to follow the remarks of Dmitry Kuleba over the years, recently deposed foreign minister and how he talked, it's appaling
Bruh, I've also been saying that Ukraine isn't a Democracy or a Republic in the way people believe 😂 and that's just simple facts, because they aren't a democracy they really ain't.
@@beasley1232when the Russian boot ravaged all Eastern and Central Europe for more than 50 years, changes in the political and societal spectrum will be slow. Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria are examples. You cannot change in 30 years what has been destroyed at every socio-political level for over 50. More than 50% of the population in those countries have the same mentality as in 1990
Wrote little Romanian chauvinist and communist. Also worth mentioning communist = Nazi = antihuman.
@@tedd2361Again blaming the Soviet Union for others behaviour 🤣
18:35 Copium moment begins:
Absolutely!
In the end narrator should've said:
What if Civil war in the US is coming - it is time to surrender! :)
it began when zelensky was goaded away from the peace talks by Boris fucking Johnson lmao :D Imagine trusting the west in 21st century...
You got to say these things or else NAF0s start having fits
South Vietnamese, Afgan against Talibans, Kurds and many others know the answer. As Kissigner said to William F. Buckley back in 1968 “It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal.”
That's a very biased take of history, what about being friend of dictatorships or kings? What did it do for the wellbeing of people?
No system or country is perfect but some are way worse than others
@markmuller7962 kings are absolutely based. Honestly, every year the concept of democracy proves why it's a failing system.
Kissinger was the devil
Haha Yeah well, Kissenger's policies made damn sure it stayed like that too.
And yet none of those were actually vital to America's interests; all of them were off the beaten path in areas that didn't factor in US strategic thinking. Ukraine on the other hand is a lot more strategic for the US especially since it is between allies that the US is pledged to defend and the nation that we're going to have to defend them from. Now, do we have leadership that recognizes this, that is the real question.
I live in Ukraine and going to watch the video a bit later. Althought I'm grateful for the support provided for my country, but replying to the video name beforehand: I don't know if we will be betrayed, but it surely does feel like we're being betrayed.
Right Sector thought they were going to take Sevastopol for the Yanks. What Ukraine think was going to happen. Ukraine government betrayed its own people.
@@theendmyfriend yeah sure, go on
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Im an american you lost the support of the gensral public a long time ago.
12:54 lowering the age of conscription wouldn't even do much though. Take a look at the age pyramid - there is a huge dip of availability pool of people in that age bracket.
It would be not very effective in terms of mobilization potential, but very politically damaging internally.
Bring the 7 million women back from their cushy spots in western Europe. It them in the factories and send the men to the front.
They would probably have to mobilize the woman at this point
Forget the internal politics, it would be far more damaging to the future economy and demographics.
Especially considering it isn't necessary to lower the conscript age, Ukraine has hundreds of thousands of already drafted people sitting around waiting for weapons, taking more people out of the economy only worsens that problem.
If North Koreans are being deployed in Ukraine, then that could turn the tide for Russia. While Russia is looking at every possible opportunity to take the war forward, the west is stepping backwards :(
Turn the tide? Ukraine have nothing left 😂
It's a relatively small force so their impact on the Russian war effort overall will be limited, it is a huge boon for North Korea though as they will gain much needed experience in modern warfare and can use the contribution to gain Russia's favour.
@Irishpotato81 Why is Putins 3 day special operation still ongoing 2 and a half years later then? They should be walking into Kyiv if Ukraine has nothing left
I am pretty sure North Koreans are there (if they are really there) to be scolded for bad-quality shells bought from NK
The left have always hated the west, the right have begun to hate the west for it's tolerance and support Russia because of religion. Only moderates support the West, and we are dwindling as people become more extreme and embrace fanatical perspectives.
I don't think it was a "bad" plan. It's the only plan that is possible tbh. The war is still in the attritional, positional phase, any promise of 'change of approach' would have been seen as ridiculous. Its actually exactly the time to double down on more material aid to Ukraine.
Lmao, nice try John bolton
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@@MrKakibuy yeah so? You got an issue with burner accounts neoliberal?
@MrKakibuy yeah yeah."muh Russian bot/troll" ain't no one gonna serve ZOG hro
Again he literally stated why its wrong, this was tried many times before but the western capitals keep rejecting it, its like bashing your head against the wall. Like yes in an ideal world its reasonable but if it is doomed to fail whats the point? He said it in the video pretty well, western capitals are interested in a return, just a reminder that the world runs on money and resources yet again
The problem is that the narrative for support continues to revolve around “doing what’s right” when there’s a more effective argument for “do it for your own self-interest.”
Failing to stop the Russian aggression when Ukraine will do all the work shows an unacceptable level of weakness that will cost hundreds of times more that what is needed for Ukrainian victory, in fact it is already apparent.
If countries can't understand this and wish for some other incentive, well... then they are done. The Western system had a good run, it's over.
@@nikolaykaradzhiev1889As we live in an ever changing world, the USA becomes more focused on its own internal politics and affairs and the Pacific Ocean.
I predict, no matter what, Democrats or Republicans, the USA will continue to shift in a more isolationist route, and move it's attention slowly towards the Asian Pacific. Under a Democratic presidents, the process will just be slower, but even under Obama, he voiced the need to "Pivot to Asia."
Even in 2016, Hilary Clinton also mentioned the need to Pivot to the Asian Pacific, and that's also exactly what Trump did as well. Fortunately for Russia, the USA main attention is on their main geopolitical economic and military rival which is China.
Ukraine doesn't realistically have anything it can offer as a guarantee. Resource exploitation requires conditions for safe extraction of those materials. It only takes one strike from Russia on any such areas offered up to the West, to make it clear its not worth any investment. Productivity would just be ground to a halt, and investments would be lost. When the German weapons manufacturer Rheinnmetal said they were going to open up a plant in Ukraine, I actually scoffed at this - "Its just gonna get destroyed, are they stupid?" All Ukraine can give are promises it can't really give NOW. The Material support Ukraine has received thus far, will never be exceeded, will never come close to even fraction of what its gotten already, and thats just the truth. The stockpiles are emptied, the manufacturing can't keep up with their needs, they will continue on the path of a material deficit to the very end of this war.
You never make a plan based on reliance of a third party, a third party with voters who never asked to be involved in the first place. Not a single referendum on providing support to Ukraine was ever done, and naturally, as the lives of people in those countries begin to deteriorate, they're going to vote out the people who are prioritizing foreigners over their own people. Its happening all across Europe, its happening here in the US, and the brutal honest to god truth was that the quality of life of Europe was sustained by economic cooperation with Russia, not Ukraine. Russia was always more important to Europe, than Ukraine was, but Europe let the neocons here in the US dictate foreign policy and effectively let our government, sacrifice their economies for Blackrock and Vanguard.
+1 for one of the people that really get it
Absolute facts, but the brainwashed masses will be along to call you a Putin bot soon no doubt.
@@XXPanzerDivisionXX Many gets it, but yt censorship deletes most of the comments, which involve longer than one sentence or takes, which are not part of narrative. P.s europe paid the heaviest price for being vassals of usa. Eu could have stopped this madness, way before it even started, but were ordered to stfu and go with the flow, thanks to warmongers, globalists and anti-human neocons. They celebrate, when populations decrease en mass.
Spot on.
Also 40+ counties straining their muscles trying to bring Russia down, yet failing miserably goes to show that Russia needs to be taken Seri seriously when it comes to European security architecture.
You can't make someone safe at the expense of other.
That other is Russia.
If Russia say their interests and safety are threatened by NATO, sit down and resolve that problem.
Don't be dishonest about negotiating (Minsk 1 + 2) as this will piss off Russians even more and harden their stance.
Just the audacity to do this to nuclear superpower is pure gambling at best, and downright suicidal at worst.
I can't believe Ukrainians still can't see writing on the wall.
facts
World: Ukraine make a plan to win a war
Ukraine: makes a plan to get more weapons
World: no not like that, with small resources we already gave you
Very brutal but honest comment.
Yes, it really is that simple. I like the idea of Ukraine becoming an armory for other countries though, that would draw their interest and force them to look at UA as an investment in their own future. Ukrainian scientists and engineers were arguably the best in the Soviet Union.
considering how they are only forcing young men on borders by kidnapping them ..while their gurls are complaining about 'dating challenges in Germany '.....,. I think it will be better for Ukranian guys if war stops.
Their plan was not to get more weapons, it was to directly involve western nations kinetically in the war. See the point about shooting Russian missiles down. That is never going to go well domestically for every political party in power that decides to get involved. The plan is also in place to secure a NATO invitation because if they get that invitation then they can start thinking about a peace deal which would include concessions such as losing the already occupied territory.
Same text bookbind set of always. So ukraine is a chapter in a textbook, not real life I guess
The ALMOST lukewarm support of Ukraine by countries opposed to Putinism is a tragedy.
Putin was never a threat to Europe and the war was about NATO expansion
@@michaelotieno6524 the war was never about NATO expansionism. When the conflict began a decade ago, it started in relation to Russia interfering with Ukraine joining the European Union, which at the time joining NATO was incredibly unpopular with Ukrainians.
Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was elected to complete the process of Ukraine joining the European Union. This displeased Putin/Russia as he was trying to get Ukraine to join the Eurasian Economic Union which along with their military alliance was basically efforts to hold onto the post-Soviet states. Due to pressure put on the Ukrainian President, he ended up unilaterally pulling out of joining the EU, against the will of the people.
He announced such decisions in the middle of the night hoping to minimize reaction of the people, but students were quick to respond in protest that night. Almost immediately Yanukovych responded with brutal police crackdowns, which would only worsen and worsen. As the response by the government got more aggressive, Ukrainians became more defiant. Eventually he would flee to Russia, after which is when some of the scale of the corruption and stolen wealth he occupied and even took with him were revealed.
It was incredibly shortly after this that Putin would respond by illegally annexing Crimea, and then sending troops and equipment into eastern Ukraine to fight a war, hoping to grind them down until a point where they could walk in and swallow them whole... Unfortunately for them, it pushed Ukraine the other direction. After Russia invaded Ukraine at full-scale in February of 2022, you then start to see a significant majority of Ukrainians actually seeking to join NATO.
So if the war was about NATO expansionism, which Putin and Russia have changed the reason dozens and dozens of times over, trying to find anything that sticks. But if it was about NATO expansionism, Putin failed miserably when Russia had its border with NATO nations more than double when Finland joined the alliance. A year later, when Sweden joined the alliance, it completely altered the dynamics of the Baltic Sea and Russia's declining leverage in the region. Beyond that, now Ukrainians do want to join NATO and so in the end, Russia may end up tripling their border with NATO nations.
One last thing, how can you say Russia was never a threat to Europe when they invaded Georgia to prevent them moving closer to the West, and then again invaded Ukraine. Are these nations not Europe enough for you?
Don't get me wrong, in my eyes, the great failing of the West after the collapse of the Soviet Union was that we didn't work to bring Russia and post-Soviet states into our systems, both the European Union and NATO as quickly as possible. We should have funded a lot of aid to cushion their landings, preventing a lot of the poverty and suffering that would be experienced. Russia, by all rights today could have been one of the most critical "Western" powers. Heck, if they joined the EU and NATO, it would have been even more likely to see a European Armed Forces to better counter American dominance. We didn't, Russia got to a point of seeking to re-establish itself as a global superpower by reclaiming once held lands of the empire of old.
@@michaelotieno6524 "the war was about NATO expansion"
In that case russia has lost.
NATO has expanded because of the war. And to a significant degree when it comes to russias naval possibilities.
@@michaelotieno6524 wtf ??? Putin stated many times that the fall of soviet union was a bad move and supported the unification with ex countries... funny how in all countries that are "opposed to this idea" there happened war with russian minorities... thankfully the Baltics were smart enough to join NATO quickly...
@@PappaTom-ub3ht Yup, Moscovia fucked up big time😘
I largely agree with your analysis, except the bit about Zelenskyy making a mistake working with Kamala and not Trump. From my perspective (as an American), Trump is a lost cause for Ukraine. Putin already knows how to play him and his potential victory would likely mean the end of American support for Ukraine, albeit on an unknown timeline. Rather than trying to split time with him, I think it was the right choice to spend more time engaging with the candidate whose victory is clearly more favorable, especially to the extent said candidate can get any advantage from it.
Zelensky didn't pick a side when visiting the US. Zelensky would've had absolutely no issues to shake hands with Republicans as well when visiting that ammo plant at Scranton. The Republicans picked the Russian side and tried to blame the Ukrainians for it.
You see, Trump (and probably the FSB) discoved he didn't need the Polish diaspora anymore to win the state of Pennsylvania, because they've apparently found a way to politically mobilize the Amish for the Republicans (a thing I had to learn in a random TH-cam Short comment section yesterday). Not that the Polish Pennsylvanians are going to notice it directly. They'll notice it later when they find out Trump 2nd term isn't Trump 1st term.
So how to get away with that? By playing the moral highground in the most sociopathic way possible; Well, first invite over the Polish president Duda to open a monument at a Polish-American Church near Pittsburgh. Then suddenly cancel it, just to give Duda the feeling of getting dumped. Then just make sure no Republican attends the meeting with Zelensky at Pennsylvania and just wait till the visit is done. Then, between the moment Zelensky is travelling Pennsylvania to New York to meet Trump, let Speaker Mike Johnson publish a letter to fire the Ukrainian ambassador over Zelensky's "interference" in domestic politics. Then Trump is having a conversation with the press with Zelensky next to talk about that one time of good cooperation between Trump and Zelensky. About that one time Trump asked Zelensky to find some bad stuff about Hunter and Joe Biden in 2019, which led to the first impeachment procedure against Trump!
So if Zelensky decided to fully support the Democrats, then it would've been after this visit.
Why the Poles stay silent on Trump's betrayal of them? Because silence is the best chance for Harris to win or to give Trump the chance to find his less radical part of himself from his first term where Trump was a staunch ally of Poland. I can also imagine they just can't comprehend that Trump is a KGB/FSB kompromat since 1987 after all the good things he did for Poland in his first term.
I hope to be so wrong at this, that I'm just a radical pro🇺🇦 cartoon dog. 😉
Going to a swing state, that close to an election and only meeting with Democrats does nothing but hurt him and his countries chances if Trump becomes president. It's also just a bad look. It reads like a foreigner trying to influence the US election. In that regard it just sours more Americans on further supporting Ukraine. Whole things was very short sighted in my opinion.
The idea that how the Trump administration will deal with this war is all just a forgone conclusion I think is nonsense. It certainly is a good narrative for the Democrat campaign however.
@@EenTH-camGebruikerhahaha. Yeah because Scranton is a neutral sight. There was no poltical motivation at all for him going there.
Don't pretend like Ukraine didn't interfere in the 2016 US election with influence campaigns trying to get Hillary elected.
I would be very surprised is one of the three secret points wasn't either nuclear weapon sharing in the future or development of a domestic nuclear weapon program
Ukraine HAD nuclear weapons, a significant arsenal from the soviet era, they gave it up in exchange for UK and US being guarantors of Ukrainian independence in case of Russian aggression. As the world can see the US and UK still stick by their age old tradition of breaking agreements and bettaying allies, with allies like these who needs enemies. This could all have been averted had the UK and US taken a harsh and immediate stance during the Crimea annexation.
@@INSANESUICIDE No, Ukraine gave up its nukes because it was broke. By 1996, its oligarchs had plundered the country, and were absolutely happy to hand over its nukes for basically nothing.
@@INSANESUICIDE While yes, technically very accurate to say that when the Soviet Union collapsed, Ukraine possessed the third largest nuclear weapons arsenal in the world. The big "however" on this matter though is that Ukraine did not possess control over said nuclear weapons arsenal, as the systems were designed to be operated by Moscow.
Ukraine could have spent time and money repurposing them or building from scratch, as they did have a significant portion of Soviet engineers regarding this matter, but for a nation that was completely broke, the heavy investment costs in what was already starting to become an aging nuclear arsenal was also a crippling financial thought, and it would radically alter its dynamic with nations around the world.
To be fair, Ukraine also gave them up for Russian, American, and British guarantees over their political, territorial, and economic integrity. So it is Russia who most specifically betrayed Ukraine, however, I do agree that if the United States, United Kingdom, and NATO broadly, along with the European Union, stood firm and strong with Ukraine the moment that Russia invaded Crimea, let alone by the moment that they began their invasion in the Donbas region, the conflict would have ended many years ago and Russia wouldn't have dreamed of considering full on conventional military invasion of Ukraine in 2022.
Even since the 2022 February invasion, our support in the "West" hasn't been anywhere near as unified, as determined, as strong, and supportive of Ukraine as I want. Ukraine shouldn't have to worry about whether or not they'll be able to fund the conflict, and shouldn't have to ask or effectively beg for equipment and the ability to properly utilize it. The war has dragged on as the "West" slowly warms to expanding support and the scope of ability for Ukraine as Russia proves time and time again that their "red lines" are bluffs, nothing but bluffs.
I would never want to start a war with Russia, and I would definitely never want to just dive into invading Russia, but there is a difference between starting a war with Russia and finishing the war that Russia started. We also have to remember that nations around the world are watching closely to see how the US, NATO,, and Western nations respond. China regarding Taiwan and the South China Sea broadly. Iran in regards to Saudi Arabia and Israel, North Korea, and others are keen to see what fractures and weaknesses exist so as to exploit them. A strong, united, and defiant stance against Russia would let the world know that the "West" is united and that the age of imperialism is not to be brought back in the 21st century.
@@Mr.Septon The weak response of a "dying empire" is exactly what will lead to world war 3, because the west has had countless lines that should not be crossed as well. And while I agree that it at the very least was in EU interest to aid Ukraine, it was the actual DUTY and PROMISE of the US and UK, NATO as a whole has no responsibility in this unless a member is attacked, and consists of members that have little to no interest in Ukraine strategically. The UK and US have been weak and have been fools on the international stage, they have broken their promises and guarantees, have been hypocrites even. And NATO and the EU seems obsessed with inefficiency indecision and self sabotage rather than any sort of meaningful coherent action. The thing that would have averted it all would have been instantly pushing back Russia in Ukraine, as after Georgia it should have been clear. The lack of action and perceived weakness is what will and has emboldened emerging and rouge states alike, and is what will end with a situation that when there is finally a line not to be crossed no one will take it seriously, and there will inevitably be world war as a consequence.
A simple look at the history books before major conflicts will show that currently the world is following the blueprint with terrifying accuracy.
I pray that I am wrong, but I fear that history is repeating itself as we did not remember nor learn the lessons of past mistakes.
There was a reason why NATO countries scrambled after the fall of the Soviet Union to keep nuclear weapons out of the hand of a Ukrainian state. The risk was to high in the early 1990th and is to high today.
There can’t be a betrayal. Nobody swore loyalty to Ukraine at the end of the day they just tried to help as much as they could but they can just stop whenever they need to
Also, as the US elections are fastly approaching, many political exports fear a inevitable rapid increase of political violence, riots and extremists, as the same echo chambers that have led to the USA 2021 capital riots are starting again on the Internet and social media.
55% of Republican voters have claimed that they will NOT except this year's election results if Trump loses. About 11% of Democrats said the same thing if Kamala Harris loses.
To make matters worse for the USA, the Senate and House of Representatives is likely to end in a divided Congress. We might not even see Republicans or Democrats secure a majority in the US house, which would cause political instability.
After the elections, there is a greater possibility the USA moves to instead focus on its own internal domestic affairs rather then foreign issues, no matter who wins the presidency. Under a Trump presidency, the USA would probably take a more vague and uncertain isolationist stance, similar to that of India for example.
Thank you for your presentation. I have shared it with others as valuable source of opinion.
I do tend to disagree on certain aspects, but acknowledge its a tough and cimplicated game. Yet, it seems too early to classify the Victory plan as a wrong and failed proposal. As you said, dynamics are part of this game on many levels. Recently, Ukraine referred to nuclear weapons as alternative for NATO, whole North Koreans stirr up things with active deployment of troops.
Strangly enough, NATO seems more disturbed by Ukrainian nukes then North Korean troops invading and fighting in an European country. I agree the responsibility for Kjiv to take their part serious. But in their situation, one could argue the bigger weight should and must be pulled by its allies, with their military, political and economic weight.
The real issue is not the Victory plan itself - but the total lack of vision and true leadership from Washington, Berlin and their allies. In the land of blind people, the one-eyed man will be crowned king. A bad or imperfect plan is better then no plan at all. Still, there is no unified pro-active Western plan, as viable alternative for the Victory plan of Kjiv.
As said: next year, new round, new games, new cards to play. This war seems far from over but still - quite dynamic. It can be over tomorrow - or still continue for years to come. We see this in the military and economic perspective: a war of attrition. It hurts both sides and others, that's actually the purpose of such approach after all. Who has the longest breath.
Maybe we can apply the same attrition to political and diplomatic ventures, as well this concept of the Victory plan. While its mediocre, there is no alternative - neither any proposals of Russia, China or Brics will be taken seriously by enough people. So the war of words also continues, as a part of the war of attrition. To be continued...
Washington definitely does lack some sound leadership at the moment as they are indecisive and have a poor understanding of how this conflict is going to end. However, regardless of the fact that it still tries to play tough and wouldn't want to show any signs of weakness or lose this strategic proxy war against Russia, there is no decision that Washington can make at the moment that will be a good one, all roads lead to bad results, its just a question of which is the least bad of the lot.
The attrition route will ultimately work against Ukraine regardless of who wins the US elections unless Washington is willing to escalate by lifting weapons restrictions on Ukraine, which will not win the war but will definitely hurt Russia a great deal. At that point, you can be almost certain that the Russians will do something drastic in response in order to save face and preserve, as they would call it, their national interests and long-term security. The west would be truly naïve if they think the Russians have not already put plans in place for that eventuality - all speculations about Russia have been wrong since this conflict began especially with regards to intelligence, economy, geopolitical clout, and to an extent even military capabilities.
The smartest decision would be to opt for a diplomatic solution because the military one has already been fraught with lots of intelligence, political, and even social failures considering the fact that the nations in support of Kiev are democracies, i.e. at the whim of their electorate who may have been willing to make sacrifices for Kiev at the start because the realities of war were still far from them but will inevitably move into other matters of much closer consideration, the exception for now would probably be those closest to a possible Russian threat.
As much as I really don't want the Russians to prevail in this conflict, the west has been an embarrassment, showing that their enforcement of the so called rules based order is only when it suits them, the increasing realization of this has made many nations around the world, such as the so called global south, shift their support, perhaps not publicly, to the Russian side. The failure of sanctions and the frustration it has caused for nations that have their own problems and cannot be bothered with Ukraine, only adds to the declining status of EU nations and the U.S as the voice of alternative centers of finance and trade grow ever louder.
I also don't like to speak of this as if it were a game because lives and families are being destroyed because of the incompetence of politicians across board.
It's looking more like it every day
Support for Ukraine in the USA is also lukewarm. Especially among GenZ, African Americans and Hispanic voters, 3 voting blocs that genuinely don't care about foreign policies.
Among African Americans, 51% support Ukraine, among GenZ Americans, 53% support Ukraine and among Hispanic Americans, 57% support Ukraine. Among un-college educated white Americans, their support for Ukraine dropped from 65% in 2022 to only 54% as of 2024.
Among Americans as a whole, 56% support Ukraine, down from 79% back in 2022.
College educated WHITE Americans have the largest support for Ukraine, with 88% of College educated white Americans supporting Ukraine.
Ukraine spent it's best people's lives to give you time to take action. Let's hope the world is ready to what will be next after Ukraine is forced to join russia in it's next imperialistic ambitions.
it gave the lives of those men to defend its country, like that Vitaliy Skakun Volodymyrovych that tried to stop the russian advance from Crimea in the beginning of war by blowing up with a bridge...
If Russia wanted to take over Ukraine it would have done so after the US backed coup in 2014 that overthrow an elected government. Russia chose peace again and again but ultimately they saw that America was not going to back down and was only arming Ukraine more and more with ever more Ukrainian nazi's being turned into storm ttroops with nato interoperability.
I don't think Russia is interested in Nuclear war with NATO. And the wars on the ground is mostly war of someones' money and influence nowadays, to which we pay with our actual lives.
I bet the West will love it when Ukraine falls under a full Russian control with the Ukrainian battle hardened troops get mobilised in the the Russian army while the US withdraws its forces from Europe as Trump threatens. This will make Russia a sole hegemon of Europe.
Sad but entirely possible. UA without its entire legal territory is an economic weakling.
Ah! The Stab in the Back Legend. It's all playing out as I predicted back in 2022.
When the moment arrives that Ukraine is about to fall, we'll see if anyone in the west actually has some balls. I'm betting on no
The Left hates the west and hate liberalism.
The right hates the west and hate liberalism.
Yeah, there is no one left to defend freedom, we squandered it and let the fanatics take over.
Ukraine is allied with EU Globailst USA UK neocon crooks. Ukraine governement is the enemy. picked the wrong friends if they expect anything from most people. Should have fought against the EU diktats instead of slobbering cia right sector tools then youd have more support of actual populations. Zelensky world tour shaking hands with all the politcal hacks that common people despise and crying why is my support dropping. what a fool.
The problem is Ukraine won't ever be to that point lol. The world wants a standstill.
No one but maybe the British elite is going to risk their people for a massive war with Russia. No idea why you guys think Russia can be defeated when that only means it goes nuclear and takes Europe and North AMerica down with it.
Well Poland will require some balls since Russia and allies will start working on wearing them down the moment Ukraine falls.
All things said...Ukaine has managed to stop the second most powerful military in the world, and that in itself deserves a lot of credit. Even though Western weapons have helped, it has ultimately been the ukrainian people that held the line.
What good did that do for Ukrainian people?
@Alex-lg6nz The same as Putins invasion did for russians.
@@Alex-lg6nz no occupation from russian first of all
@@enrico4818 yet...
@@MyVanir i Hope also in the future
I’ve watched all videos about the Ukraine war from this channel since since it started. This is probably the most pessimistic one for Ukraine.
They continue to slowly lose ground what else colors they me
The USA only sent 10% of their approved military aid to Ukraine.
There will probably be no more US aid to Ukraine, until this year's election and political turmoil is over.
Political exports already fear if political violence in the USA as the same echo chambers that started the capital riots in 2021, are spreading through social media this year again.
45% of Americans already did they will not except this year's election results if their party does not win, the overwhelming majority of that 45% came from Republican voters. There has already been a group of 8 teenagers in Florida terrorizing and waving machetes in Democratic voters faces at early voting booths.
what this war goes to show is that Ukraine is indeed a split country, as the russians say. When the question of lowering the conscription age comes, it is not so much about them being the flower of the future of Ukraine, its much more about western ukrainians not being willing to fight in donbass as they haven't, for decades, no connections with it. No youth in Lviv or Kiev is interested in what happens in Donbass. For them,donbass is has almost the same significance as for a Romanian. This is the reality, unfortunately. All the soviet "nation building" is coming to bite
Youth also lives on the east of Ukraine
Best case scenario for the Ukraine war the way I see it
1) Donbass and Luhansk are handed off to Russia
2) DMZ is created on the border
3) Ukraine is rebuilt and pushed fast into the EU with aggressive reforms set by the member states
4) Ukraine westernizes its military
5) EU normalization with Russia and the removing of sanctions/frozen assets in return for certain reparations
6) Russia gets assurances that Ukraine will not be permitted into NATO
If somebody could swing this, it would be perfect. Dragging this war of attrition does nobody any good. The only way Ukraine could get back its territories would be if they had complete and total air superiority which could only be done if NATO planes and carriers do so. But NATO is not going to intervene when a nuclear power is in question unless one of its states is directly attacked, which, at this point, it isn't.
Ukraine already said that if they’re not allowed to join NATO that they will begin development of their own nuclear ☢️ weapons program.
@G-Man-half-life lmao then they will be sanctioned both by russia and the west I guess,fantasy
@@G-Man-half-life I don't think they can afford that. Maybe in 25-30 years when their economy is rebuilt and their conventional military is stable.
@@qqwp3656 If Pakistan could afford, so can Ukraine. Plus Ukraine already manufactures precision missiles, and operates several nuclear power plants.
@@serhiy-serhiiv I'm not convinced. Total GDP is something that needs to be looked at and the rate at which the economy would recover. I'm not saying the Ukranians don't know how to do it, I'm just saying that I don't know that it's fiscally possible.
And it's opening a new can of worms, nuclear proliferation is always a slippery slope.
The "West" is not a uniform block. Some nations - Nordics + Baltics + NL - are providing a lot aid, but are not big on weapons production except for Sweden.
I am saddened by especially US, GER & FRA. These countries have the capacity, the industry but are not willing to provide substantial help to Ukraine. This might sound odd to you, but DK provides about 4 times more aid than the US & GER, and much more compared to FRA. 7 Bln USD from a country of 6 Mio people. But we dont have any weapons industry and have exhausted our resources.
What I want to point out is that not all countries are holding back.
That said I too think the "Victory plan" was a disappointment. Naive I would almost call it. There is no way Ukraine can join NATO before this conflict is settled - simple as that. Ukraine/Zelenskyy should have known this - and probably did. But apparently he found it important for domestic political reasons. Thats not credible and somehow irrelevant to Western leaders.
The point of mobilising the whole population is ambiguous. On the one side I respect the Ukrainian view and the population pyramid, but on the other side it sends a signal that if UA is somehow not willing to go all in them selves - then why should others? I mean a NATO membership might result in the rest if NATO sending our young to die in Ukraine.
Because I was born in a country with a real conscription, not a Nordic one of a 6month vacation I can say this:
If you actually draft every male from 18 to 45, you economy will crash. Also, you can have 2 or 5, maybe 6 million men. Great! What does that matter when you still can only arm 500k? You want them to run with sticks at minefields? What about the logistical support? How are you moving them? Also, syaing: we are mobilizing everyone will have the Russians go on a total mobilization. Will the Europeans actually mobilize, fuck no. So it doesn't help anything.
@@jjj8317 I think You might misinterpret my remarks on drafting young men. I dont advocate for Ukraine to draft every male in this age group. I am only stating that it sends a signal that Ukraine is not "all in" them selves, that they despite their situation are not willing to do everything in their power. They are asking to join NATO now. This holds a big potential that all other NATO countries will have to send troops, that is their own young men to fight and die in Ukraine. This scenario is a bit crazy if Ukraine are not willing to draft their own young men. Thats all I am saying.
I can only speak for DK, and very few people are being drafted here at all. We only draft the deficit between volunteer contract soldiers and the wanted quantity. Since we cut our army so much in recent years this number has been very low. But the mistaken policy has been admitted and we will grow our army again and conscription period will rise to 11 months again. Our defense will receive extra funding of 21 Bln usd over the next 10 years not incl aid to Ukraine.
Why should NATO members mobilize when we're not at war? Makes absolutely no sense.
What qualifies as “substantial” aid. The US has sent hundreds of billions of dollars. With no consent from taxpayers.
@@stevenhawking6096 You have been listening to Trump I guess? Current US delivered contribution is 85 Bln €. Thats equivalent to 0.4% of GDP and puts the US in 24th place over donor countries.
@@LK-jl3pc first of all, I haven’t been listening to Trump, he’s been listening to the people here. And FYI, it’s his opponents administration that’s been delivering “unsubstantial aid” thus far. Anyways, focusing on “delivered aid” is delusional framing. $174b is already agreed upon, with no end in sight. The only reason they haven’t given more is because our government is already so far beyond the definition of over-budget that we literally cannot spare more money, without exacerbating the already rampant inflation. Secondly, what percentage of US GDP is enough? It’s literally a conflict that has nothing to do with the US, shouldn’t be our problem at all. No amount of “oh well all these other countries are helping” will change the fact that Americans are so completely tired of funding wars that have nothing to do with us, and spending more for NATO defense than any other NATO country. Don’t get me wrong, I want Russia to lose. Ukraine doesn’t deserve what’s happening to it, at all. But I care infinitely more about my mom’s finances than some foreign country who’s never done anything for me, and that’s the sentiment of most Americans.
hard solid reporting. thank you
Really love your videos. Still so glad to hear your voice reporting again.
People listen to this channel for your research and reporting.
It's good to change things up, but I think the fans of your channel spoke in your favour and you listened.
Bro where have you been? he's been back for months
@@dosmastrify Yeah, just reminding him that we're here for him.
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Europeans really miss the old good Soviet Union it seems
Politicians prefer short term gains vs long term strategies because they will not be around to reap the results of their actions.
Yes guess thats why they are making the EUSSR.
Your hysterics just make me yawn. Russia can't, and won't try to, conquer the many nations that are now in NATO. And if they try, which they won't, NATO can worry about that when nations that are, you know, actually in their "defensive" alliance are attacked.
@@sdagoth3037 it’s good that people like you show the real face of the western society so that there’s no delusion, thank you.
@@insane5375 You're the larper pretending the rise of a new Soviet Union is imminent. You're insane.
"We dont like your victory plan. Not bcs it wont work, but bcs we dont want to take a part in it. Pls make another victory plan, where you win and we dont do anything, and we will agree. Also you should take into account the fact that you are losing bcs we already dont help"
Great analysis.
He forgot to mention the decrease in support for Ukraine aid in the USA. Right now, support for Ukraine is Lukewarm with only 55% of Americans supporting aid to Ukraine, with 42% against further military aid. This was a dropped from the 79% of support for Ukraine in the USA back in 2022.
Among African Americans, only 51% support further military aid to Ukraine. Among GenZ Americans, only 53% support military aid to Ukraine, and among Native Americans 49% supported further military aid to Ukraine. Among non-college educated white voters, their support for Ukraine dropped from 66% in 2022, to only 55% today.
Bottom line is, the American public seems rather split on weather they should continue further military support for Ukraine.
When you are told you cannot use long range weapons when Russia can get missiles and troops for other places and use them without abandon, what do you expect? Madness.
Ukraine is on life support. This thing should have never happened.
You mean Russia should never had invaded Ukraine for a second time? I agree ☝️
Yep, Russia should have never invaded.
Then go volunteer and help them out
@@Tjurenful no US should have kept its promise after ww2 when it signed a pact to not increase Nato territories towards east and ukraine should have been neutral, all putin asked of them was to remain neutral as russia didnt want NATO sitting beside their homeland and starting a new civil war, read some history before making yourself a fool on the internet
@@Blaze-pf6ju you are a fine specimen of the sorry state of Russian education. No such promise was made after ww2, or ever since. Show the document…
Frankly speaking I am not sure if Ukraine will be betrayed or not but through the video you can feel Polish resentment towards Ukraine.
Ukraine was betrayed when the west convinced them not to sign the Istanbull peace agreement. That was the real issue.
Yes that was Boris Johnson specifically
@@jirislavicek9954boris Johnson was an emissary sent by the collective west.
This video was worthy of a sub. Well done!
Mobilizing young men aged 18-25 to demonstrate Ukraine’s determination to the West? Haven’t Ukrainians already proven their resolve by standing against Russia for the past decade, especially in the last two years? Must Ukraine further risk its demographic future to once again showcase its commitment, perhaps to nations like Poland, where citizens blocked the border for months last year while the government looked the other way?
If the war ends on terms acceptable to Russia, they will likely regroup and launch a second, more successful offensive. One wonders, when Poland sees Russian soldiers near its border, will it, just as it does with Ukraine, demand apologies for historical events like Katyn and insist on access to investigations such as the Smolensk air disaster?
I agree that this plan seems unrealistic and overconfident, but demanding even more from Ukraine just to again demonstrate to the West a willingness to continue the war, especially in hopes of receiving crucial weapons that weren’t supplied when Ukraine’s armed forces were at their strongest - seems equally flawed. Ukraine is certainly not at fault here; Ukraine has done far more than was required and exceeded all expectations.
(The emphasis on Poland is solely due to the author’s nationality.)
well yes, of course Ukraine has to mobilize 2 million more people and send them running at Russian defensive line with nothing but sticks, that would for sure be of benefit to a Ukraine that lacks people to build weapons, not people to use the weapons.
I they wont even do that then why should the west mildly inconvenience themselves to help Ukraine?
With the way the war is going Russia will likely not allow the Ukraine to have a independent state. The ukraine has done very poorly on the battlefield the last few years
@@mrpilkington9710 ivan, idi nakhuy
I'm glad Hubert is back
As a Ukrainian and many Ukrainians around me, we already feel betrayed. Not the West, no, the countries of Western Europe help out of their good will and we will never forget it. But the Americans and the British have an obligation, we are the only country in the world that voluntarily gave up nuclear weapons, for security guarantees, and what did we get for that? One guarantor attacked us, and the other two are holding us back for fear of escalation. Our cities and villages turned into a World War I nightmare, we lost hundreds of thousands of people, AND THEY TELL US ABOUT ESCALATION.
America has given more help to you than any other country. Perhaps we should stop all together then?
The US gives more help to you than YOUR OWN EURO NEIGHBORS
@@doozledorf7036 Unlike others, you have an obligation to us. What do you think I will crawl in front of you? We decided to fight when we had absolutely nothing, including a chance to win, so I'd rather spit in your face.
Simply put, You are F'd 😂😂😂.
"And we never forget that". Germans slaughtered you in WW2 and now you erasing monument to those who stopped it - Red Army.
Yeah, you are quite famous for gratitude .
Aren’t we supposed to change the current reality of our political leadership and cure the laziness and procrastination even the reluctance?
It is up to us. Leaders that won’t protect humanity in Ukraine will not protect it at home either.
Replacing US troops with Ukrainian troops in Europe?
How even thought of this nonsense? What juvenile thinking.
Trump will leave NATO anyway, but it’s up to you to believe it or not.
Indians really love trump and Europe .the two leaders make Europeans and people in the west look dumber than the rest of the world@@ESF-EF
@@ESF-EF I hope we do. Europeans CLEARLY don't value our alliance. They NEED the US, we don't NEED Europe
@@ESF-EF God willing Trump pulls us out of nat0
Great analysis as always thanks!
While the video provides a thorough analysis of the challenges Ukraine faces, it misses a crucial point: the West cannot afford to let Ukraine fall. The increasing war fatigue and geopolitical distractions in Western capitals, as discussed, are concerning, but abandoning Ukraine would not only be a moral failure, it would also set a dangerous precedent for international order and security.
Zelensky’s “Victory Plan” may be imperfect, but that doesn’t negate the broader imperative that the West should do more - not less - to support Ukraine. The video suggests that Ukraine’s demands are unrealistic given the current geopolitical landscape, but this argument overlooks the stakes of the conflict. If Ukraine is left to negotiate from a weakened position, it won't just be Ukraine that suffers; it could embolden authoritarian regimes globally, especially Russia, to exploit Western hesitance in future conflicts. This would lead to more instability, not peace.
The notion that the West has more pressing concerns, such as the rivalry with China or tensions in the Middle East, is shortsighted. The war in Ukraine is not an isolated issue; it’s a critical front in the broader fight for global democratic values and the rule of law. Allowing Russia to succeed would shift the balance of power toward aggressive, revisionist states and undermine decades of international progress.
Moreover, the pursuit of peace should not come at the expense of Ukraine’s sovereignty. Any negotiation must aim for a just and lasting peace, not a forced compromise that leaves Ukraine at the mercy of future Russian aggression. Yes, the West must be pragmatic, but it also needs to be principled. Peace is not simply the absence of conflict; it’s the presence of justice and security for all parties involved.
Instead of turning away from Ukraine in the face of difficulties, the West should double down on efforts to support its defense, while also fostering diplomatic initiatives that bring a real and sustainable resolution to the war. Failing to do so will only prolong the conflict, create more instability, and weaken the global response to future crises. The geopolitical events, as mentioned in the video, are already trending in the wrong direction, with more conflict likely on the horizon. The West must act decisively now, not retreat into passivity.
In conclusion, while the video rightly critiques Ukraine’s approach, it underestimates the disastrous consequences of reduced Western support. Rather than focusing on what Ukraine could do differently, we should be asking what more the West can and must do to prevent a catastrophic outcome, for Ukraine, Europe, and the world at large.
**TLDR:** The West must not abandon Ukraine, as doing so would fuel global instability. Increased support is crucial to securing a just and lasting peace, preventing further conflict and safeguarding international security.
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Global instability would be a continuing and escalating war with a nuclear power.
This has nothing to do with 'democracy' or it's values. Ukraine is not a 'democratic' nation nor has it ever been especially since 2014. Stop spreading disinformation on the internet.
Agree
You Obviously
Forget Vietnam 🇻🇳 !!!! 🤡
Seems to me that you are very optimistic about Ukraine, to a lot of people it looks like they want everything for ¨free¨ not compromising on anything just gladly recieving aid, thats not something they could have hoped lasted a long time and it already shows.
Us Croats were fight alone , no one help us. We back our occupying territory in just 48 hours.
Your analysis is not firmly based in reality. It looks to me you believe that Ukrainians do (or did) have a decent chance of prevailing in this tragic conflict. Unfortunately, they never had much chance. Minsk 1 and 2 and Istambul negotiations were Ukraine's best chances to achieve less bad outcome. Important note: they never had any chance of gaining back Crimea. With the help of their Werstern masters, Kiev completely ignored physical limitations to their own powers and chose the escalation of the war. After three years of going the wrong way, Ukraine is not changing her approach while her chances of winning are keep on decreasing. At this point, it is hard to even name a miracle which would change the current nearly catastrophic situation.
"I never really was on your side" -Spy TF2
Skip to 5:00 if you don't want to listen to him ramble on about villages for 5 minutes
"If you ask us, we would totally help Ukraine to the last drop of our blood, so please believe us and keep watching our channel, but... now we will explain to you, dear Ukrainians and their supporters, why it's not actually out investors fault, that Ukraine will be betrayed, because we took the word 'betrayal' in quotes". Ah... those western colonial values.
America can't keep up with the world that it supposedly leads. It keeps trying to hand the matter over to someone else but this has been made difficult because (1) the United Kingdom bailed on the European Union, (2) Germany can't get over itself, (3) France is French first and European second, (4) Poland has spirit but is too poor and keeps having to balance it's domestic issues, (5) Hungary is determined to remain Moscows Best Friend in any outcome, (6) the Baltic States can't, and (7) Canada has some strong words for Russia, and to be sure those have had all the impact of an seagull taking a shit in Egypt.
It will end the same way it begins, with Ukraine saying, "Fuck this, I'll do it myself." Everything from pushing out Yanukovych to helping Golenkov find his hammer. And that won't change. Victory favours the bold, and nobody is bolder than Ukraine. Keep it up. Nobody gets help from North Korea unless they're down to the marrow.
many western nations also have been weakened by multiculturalism,debt and lgbtq. The truth is many people have a short attention span and dont really care about this conflict. As long if it does not affect them.
"Fuck this, I'll do it myself." - this should be every countries baseline.
While I appreciate that view point, Ukraine just can’t do anything without American or European weapons. Ukraine loses without the West, and Kim Jong Un is saying he’ll have troops in Ukraine by November 1st or some shit like that. Either way, Ukraine could be a lost cause without direct foreign intervention, perhaps on behalf of SK since none of Europe can do anything about it
Didn't the USA donate MORE THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY?
@joeblow8379 They aren't really donations. They're investments. And they're well made. US is finally getting some use out of their stock.
This war never meant to be won on the battlefield, but through sanctions with more than 19.000 sanctions imposed. Since that failed, the end of UA was sealed given the west is far from competing with RU in a war of attrition!
So the real question, is how the west underestimated the Ru economy resilience, that's a monumental failure right there, the consequence of which is having a huge impact on the international world order as new powers raising!
As of the victory plan, it is nonsense mostly:
1. joining NATO will never happen as long as the country is at war or under occupation, which is totally justified form the POV of the other members, despite what they publicly say/bs, no one from NATO is ready to send troops to die in UA, that's a fact! (I am talking about main/historical/core NATO)
2. sending more material is justified, but ignores the fact that many countries already reached their limit!
3. deploying NATO systems to UA is not possible since that will trigger a direct confrontation with RU, and again, no one from the west is ready to die there!
4. this is the bait/carrot to raise support for the other points. Sadly, it is not enough and regardless, this will happen anyway since UA will have to pay its debts at some point!
5. replacing US troops is nonsense since it is not the lack of troops these countries have, but the symbolism of US presence with all its might including its nuclear deterrence. Frankly, suggesting this point is beyond ideotic! And I am pretty sure many EU countries feel insulted by such suggestion that UA will send troops to protect them!
As an American I 100% agree, the Western world greatly underestimated the resilience of the Russian economy, US sanctions did absolutely NOTHING to them 😂 which is a major blow to the United States.
If US sanctions can't hurt Russia, then they most certainly won't hurt China either lol.
@@beasley1232 Have you been to the store lately, "American"? Groceries have doubled in price since the start of the SMO.
South Korea isn't going to war for Ukraine. It's all posturing right now. They have an impressive Military Industrial Complex that is making huge strides in international exports. No leader will change that for a costly & potentially existential war for Ukraine.
I think he was taking along the lines of donation to Ukraine.
@@glorioustigereye He very clearly said maybe they'll get into a proxy war with the North to test their weapons. Rocket man was hurling ballistic missiles around SE Asia for fun not too long ago. ROK are putting their heads above the parapet to show solidarity & no more. Ukraine isn't selling resources, it's selling promises of rights to resources they never had and increasingly look like will only be further from a reality with Trump.
History repeats itself, the allies ignore smaller countries in conflict, only stepping in when the problem has become critical.
Ignore smaller countries? Billions and billions dollars of all kinds of aids and the most severe sanctions=ignoring
If you deside to trust pathological liars, you only have yourself to blame for the outcome.
No one cares what excuses you invent afterwards.
tomorrow never comes until it's too late.
Ask the south vietnamese, afghans, kurds, and the list goes on...
Even Americans have been betrayed by their government.
The US has spent much of the last 70 years backing its NATO allies, Israel, and Taiwan. South Vietnam and the Afghans were abandoned as a lost cause because they had little interest in defending themselves and suffered from massive corruption, both basically collapsed the second US forces pulled out of any area because they just gave up immediately. Propping them up is like funding a drug addict: if they refuse treatment your only choices are to fund their habit forever or let them hit rock bottom in the hopes they bounce back only in politics that means sacrificing your own citizens lives and not just their money.
And since you brought up 2 other mid-east places what about Iraq? The US did fuck them up but also spent 8 years occupying Iraq and has spent the following 13 years and counting propping them up. The worlds largest embassy was built by the US
The situation with the Kurds is largely thanks to Turkey who basically cause problems in NATO and threatens to give Russia unrestricted access if NATO nations dont stop helping Kurds because Turkey is locked in a never ending ethnic war with their Kurdish subjects. That sitaution is largely thanks to Turkey for being genocidal assholes and to a lesser extent to European nations for fucking up Kurdistan's borders and splitting the Kurdish people up among 3 major nations making it almost impossible for them to have a state of their own. Doesnt help that Iraq and Iran do much the same as Turkey violently crush the Kurds while causing problems anytime anyone helps them out.
@@arthas640South Vietnam was different. They did fight and they did hold out. They were promised air support and aid if North Vietnam broke their treaty and invaded again.
The Democrats in the US Congress at the time betrayed them for domestic political reasons.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588 They were betrayed, but Moscow and China really didnt care for North Vietnam either at the end and were more interested in having good US relations. Even when US pilots were finally allowed to bomb haiphong harbor where all the soviets ships full of tanks arrived and they damaged soviet ships there was no reaction from Moscow. Comparing South Vietnam to Ukraine id say that South Vietnam had all the equipement but didnt have the fighting spirit. While Ukraine has the fighting spirit but not the equipement. Imagine if the US had send Himars on the first week of the invasion....
Not our fault the afghans ran 🤷♂️. Our bad Kurds and Vietnamese
The problem i see here is the assumption the bear can bite like a shark and hold it.
really nuanced and balanced analysis, you can really see that the author of the video is a true friend of Ukraine ❤
It warms my heart to see even NATO fanboys admitting that the jig is up. I look forward to my taxes finally paying for things that workers need in America, instead of paying for the wars of regimes that ban elections, communists, and Orthodoxy.
Ukraine banned communists ,because communists killed millions of orthodox christians.
My heart is even more joyful, buddy! Finally, your shop will be closed and the money that went to the Republican weapons factories under the "Ukrainian aid program", went to simple uncouth redneck workers who sharpened their metal blanks on machines - will now go to REALLY IMPORTANT things, namely, to support the multi-gender queer community, and your rednecks and Republicans, having lost military orders under the Ukrainian aid program, will lose their jobs and will either starve, or go with us to gamedev to earn blackrock money, promoting gender diversity and rights!
I enjoy watching how fools, on the orders of Trump bought by Putin, shoot themselves in the foot! Hahahaha, your muscular industrial factories for the sake of producing military products to replace old weapons sent to Ukraine - will soon come to an end, ahahaha! Respect people with gender diversity!
Nah, U.S. weapon manufacturing will keep working with Ukraine as long as Ukraine keeps asking for it. No way, are they giving up that contract machine because of a populist movement. We saw what happened to Kennedy.
Not if they think Ukraine has no chance of paying back
@@SA2004YG why would they care. It ain't Ukraine that's paying. It's the US government asking for new guns. The big issue is the politics. The economics will sort themselves like they did with the marshall plan
@SA2004YG Ukraine isn't paying for it. Taxpayers are. They are one of the poorest countries in Europe. They do have a lot of resources, and hold a strategic place in Eurasia. That's more valuable then any fiat monetary gains.
April 19th 1995 don't forget this date my good federal friend
@@blackmatterlives9865 that's the point it's legal money laundering and inflating the dollar even more, this second civil conflict can't start fast enough
So, the answer is "yes", followed by "but it's not a betrayal for reasons, see". Putin was right in his assessment of the West.
So, the Victory plan is a failure, Ukraine joining Nato or the EU is not a reality even despite all the promises and public assurances from both EU, NATO and UA. The UAF fronts are not holding Russia's advances and Ukraine is lacking urgent support that has been put on a definitive hiatus from all their "friends"...
russias war is a failure, in 3 years they still don't control the donbass fully, and now Ukraine holds hostage a part of russia.
@@MrKakibuySure, but Ukraine's lost about 20% of it's territory and the future it's not looking good, is it? Your concept of war effort is childish, even this video attempt to paint a "all's not lost" picture of the current situation for Ukraine cannot hide all the reality of the facts depicted. The points in the Victory Plan are unreasonable and have been largely ignored by their allies.
@@laloelsalamanca this channel is not more or less accurate than any other western analyst, so their doomy mood means literally nothing. Yes the situation is bleak but it goes for both sides. Russia can't even muster enough soldiers to liberate Sudzha. Their economy is in high stagflation and there are serious doubts on wether they war economy can push another 1-2 years of war.
nobody said Ukraine was going to join NATO anytime soon. A precondition to join NATO is you cant have any border disputes: you either keep the claim and dont join or you give up any claim to territory and then can join. To join Ukraine would either need to control Crimea or cede it to Russia so NATO membership was NEVER going to happen until the war was effectively over and Russia got pushed back to their own border.
Similarly the EU has typical European bureaucracy and there's a bunch of prerequisites you have to meet before you can negotiate joining. Many former Warsaw Pact nations took a decade or more to join the EU and regulations have only gotten more complex since the 1990s and Ukraine only started the ball rolling in 2014. It's harder to rapidly liberalize in general but in the middle of a war and occupation its even harder, it took Poland around a decade for example and that was when the process was easier. Like Poland used to have parts of the country where you couldnt live if you were gay, that's something the EU was fine with in 1994 but something a nation wouldnt be able to get away with in 2024.
@@laloelsalamanca never say never, Hitler conquered 20% of CCCP lands during ww2, but CCCP never surrendered....
Short answer: Yes it will be betrayed
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The only difference between Ukrainian language and Russian language is a dialect. Ukrainian and Belarus are part of Russian culture and society.
The main thing is the life of people. The war could be ended with Stambul agreements back in 2022.
The Nordics Remember.
France, Germany and the US might lose interest. We won't.
Yet Ukraine makes stupid decisions. It should rely on Nordics, Baltic states and Central Europe (Poland, Czech Rep, Romania). Instead they fall into arms of nations who don't care and only delay help (France, Germany). Ukraine won't stand a chance with that politics. Especially antagonising Poland. If Poland stop caring about Ukraine - Ukraine is gone.
Good, because we Americans will be packing it up in Ukraine come January 20, 2025!
Because no free press is legal in EU if reporting contrary to NATO narrative. Of course like a N Korean you believe because dissent is illegal in EU
The US has given more than any country in Europe
The US has given more than other country to Ukraine...
Personally, this was written in Stone.
What happened to our Kurdish brothers in our war against ISIS?
What will happen to our Philippine brothers in the future?
Uh, well the Philippines are like hundreds upon hundreds of different islands.
I highly doubt China can muster up the navy to launch a full scale invasion of the Philippines OR Taiwan even if they wanted to. China's ground force might be formidable but their navy and Air Force is laughable.
You would have to be crazy to think China's navy or Air Force would even stance a chance against the USA. In fact, in a possible Chinese invasion of the Philippines, the Philippines could probably hold them off alone.
Kurdish brothers? Philippine brothers? Lmao this is the absolute cuckery of the American patriotard.
The world now resembles the Titanic. On the upper decks, Europe and America are still enjoying life. Down below, water is already flooding in, and Ukraine is trying to hold back the current with whatever means it has.
And sleeping in their beds behind locked doors not knowing their fate is sealed are the Russians 😂
Ukraine has lost at summer 2023 when it deployed huge forces heavily equipped for months and threw them on the Surovikine ligne, only breaching it in one single point, the village of Robotyne (which has been lost since then). Ukraine insisted for month, had a tremendous amount of losses, both in equipment and human (which is top secret Ukrainian info, not a good sign all all), and lost all initiative since then.
Even their small offensive this summer in the Kursk Oblast, a region that had nearly 0 Russian brigade to defend it only managed to gain 1000km² in around 15 days, before being stopped and slowly pushed back by Russian troop urgently sent in reinforcement. In 2022, the same Ukrainian army was able to repel around 100 000 Russian soldiers located around Kharkov, Izium , and throw them back begind the Oskil River in less than 3 weeks.
Ukraine has clearly lost it's abilities to attack and to have the initiative. And it all started with that massive counter offensive in 2023 failing massively, and all the Ukrainian supporters were in denial about it. One year after, the things are coming clear now: Ukraine cannot win this war anylonger.
It's now will have to undergo the Russian advance until the armistice is signed and a territorial split of Ukraine is decided.
Everyone said that Kursk added a lot of uncertainty to the war. In the end it added a lot of chaos and cost a few towns in the east, but overall there was minimal impact.
It’s hard to know without the possibility of knowing what would have happened otherwise but I agree, that it has so far been inconsequential. However the speculation was that Russian territory would be exchanged for captured Ukrainian land in an eventual peace deal. Of course this hasn’t happened so far. It’s more like a „Faustpfand“
yes, because the only reaction from Biden was deep concern. What a cockroach he is.
in retrospect it seems to have been a desperate move with little value and high costs, if anything it hurt Russia's pride.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 it was a right move. We showed that russia won't start a nuclear war. But sullivan is still "doesn't want to escalate", which literally mean "the US doesn't want russia to loose"
it disabled russian ability to freeze the conflict
About the map you are showing : your map is late from a few days to a month.
I am shocked how EU and US advise - demand from Ukrainians to lower conscript age but themsevls been total cowards to shoot down ruzzian missiles over their territory or giving a permission to strike ruzzia back 😢
because the United States is not capable of defeating Russia on the battlefield, it is technically weak. This is not a 20th century war against people in flip-flops on a Toyota Hilux
@@naryu4352 dude, the United States is the strongest, richest, most well-equipped, well-trained and battle proven military on the entire planet by a country MILE. They outspend the next 9 countries in the world COMBINED in terms of defense spending. The US would absolutely STEAMROLL Russia in a military conflict. The problem is that the US refuses to send anything to Ukraine, not that the US can’t
@@naryu4352 If you really believe that... then intelligence psyops worked. Hahaha beautiful
@@naryu4352Do you really believe that? 😂 Especially after the Devastation caused by the USA in Iraq and Afghanistan? Though a failure the USA left both nations in total ruin.
I HAVE ENJOYED YOUR ANALYSIS
Videos take so long to make that the maps are weeks out of date by the time they land
"Yes"
Roll the Credits
Europe should take responsibility of its own defense instead of solely relying on America.
Yes there is reliance, but solely? No. Europe has a big military industrial base itself and while military preparedness has been eroded and made more reliant on the US umbrella, using the word "solely" is just straight up wrong
Not long ago they called us warmongers now we’re traitors lol
@@sparks1792Nope. Not now not ever. Please do not mistake a bunch of tankie loudmouths for the silent grey majority. Most of us went to the beaches of Omaha and Utah to pay our respect at least once in our lives. And words like "Ich bin ein Berliner" through to "Mr Gorbatchov, tear down this wall" are engraved on our collective European DNA. Auld lang syne - my friend, auld lang syne.
@@sparks1792 When the US invaded Iraq under the false pretense of evidence of WMDs? Yes, that was warmongering.
The fact that you're willing to betray your allies does not undo your warmongering. Two wrongs do not make a right :p
Okay vatnik@@sparks1792
The U.S. political system is fickle and constantly changing, every 4-8 years.
Ukraine's "leadership" putting its faith in constant U.S. support, was a miscalculation at best and idiotic at worst.
A short look at U.S. political will and U.S. involvement in conflicts over the last 60 years tells the story.
If the U.S. is directly attacked, then yes the will is there.
But a half a world away, more likely than not, it is not over time.
Again a solid summary 💯
Good analysis, unbiased and based in reality. Good job
painfull but truthfull video
Great video
For some in the West it might seem like a great idea for Ukraine to go all in, even to the point where Kiev is defended by Volkssturm-style units manned by the very young and very old. Not primarily becase this would be very likely to grant Ukraine victory, but because it would certainly make the war more costly for Russia. Should Ukraine lose and end up in the Russian sphere of influence it might also seem very helpful. If Ukraine was reduced to rubble with noone left to work the fields but the elderly, the crippled and the dead then surely Ukraine would be of little use to a victorious Russia?
For this channel to at current state of affairs urge further sacrifices from Ukraine, is it not basically to encourage a compulsive gambler?
"Come on Ukraine, just one final bet! You can still win it all back! This time it will be different! And if you do then the West might absolutely at some unspecified point in time and in a manner yet to be determined make it worth your bloody sacrifice!"
Very well made video!
US has tried to influence Ukraine to come to negotiation table, whilst Ukraine is now threatening developing of nukes. It's not betrayal, simply punishment for not doin what their allies want
US publicly screamin for peace while whispering in Ukraines ear "yeeees kill as many as you can" youre fool to believe public statements are the true intentions
When looked and compared the support of both wars of Israel and Ukraine I can’t help feeling quite disappointed with how the severity was judged on morality in the first place…
Israel seems to be the ally of the USA just because it’s the birthplace for Christianity (who have been involved in so many wars since its very existence.)
Ukraine has been anticipating on economically development and free trade instead of just being in a state of war or major conflict, riots or uprising hostile mentality (in short constantly unstable regimes in expectation of a new war.)
They just didn’t choose to live the victim or the agressor life.
Israel on the other hand…. There will never be absolute peace in this region ever (unfortunately…)
I wish all people of Israel and Ukraine a better and peaceful life soon.
It seems like they’re just being punished for their choice for freedom since they have been declared independence from Russia.
That’s your issue, believing Ukraine and Israel are similar with each other. Israel is essentially Russia, they commit genocide and ethnically cleansing the land.
A truly balanced pragmatic narrative 👍
How can we let this happen?
The soldier replacement move was directed solely towards the US. Its them who benefit from retiring the garrisons. One could arge the whole plan was made to get the US on board despite the European opinion, as one could asume they would follow the US lead if aproved.
Honestly, I suspect so
Russia is not suffering .
Only their subjects are terribly suffering.
Russia is not a nation state, it’s an Empire of ruling Russians and Asian subjects.
Hope not
Well... you first have to trust someone in order to be betrayed
Well Ukraine did when they signed the Budapest memorandum, they trusted Russia, UK and the US. They already got betrayed by Russia.
Slava Stupidity and the American interest
Good coverage.
1. US polls and the rules around them, do skew older and therefore trump. Also there are a lot of black and latino men who say they support trump but likely won’t vote. They will answer the poll, but they aren’t dedicated. It’s still really close, and here in a major swing region of a swing state, it’s very 50/50
2. I think it’s time for Zelensky to step aside, his message is stale and his approach is too adversarial.
3. A ceasefire will allow Ukraine to continue to build their military capabilities, and allow some breathing room for energy companies to rebuild.
4. Ukraine can use a nato invite as a bargaining point without actually joining. The threat is something that russia must consider.
It's either NATO or nukes.
I'm a 20 year old black American man and I'm not voting in my opinion both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are the shittiest picks we've had in a very long time.
@@Iamabot4708 Yup, I'm afraid you're right. If these two are the best the USA has to offer then we are all screwed.
@@juremustac3063 it's unfortunate the situation we are in.
@@burprobrox9134 3. Why would Russia ceasefire, letting Ukraine to rebuild like it did since 2014 with NATOs help?
4. How is that a threat? This is what caused the war and your proposal is to threaten Russia with Ukraine's invitation? They don't care anymore and they will only stop if Ukraine restores its neutral status.