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This is why I really hate marvel and I’ve never been a big marvel fan or it’s films because marvel just sucks I’m sorry but all the movies and shows just suck.
The parkour robot is really emblematic of current Disney design: Spend a shit ton of money on some halfbaked technological novelty and then make the rest of the attraction as cheaply as possible to compensate.
Exactly. They spend money stupidly. They need less "innovation" and more "immersion." Spend more on scenic painters, talented environmental designers, set decorators, props, water features, landscaping, and practical environments and scenes in attractions...and less on overly-complex next-gen "interactive" ride systems that are broken down half the time.
you talking about how avengers campus is a stupid name made me realize that it looks like my university campus which is probably why i skip even going in the land during trips
The Chad Marvel Superhero Island vs. the virgin Avengers Campus (Sorry I know this is a joke from like 2020 I just can’t really describe it any other way)
I was fucking blown away at how mediocre Web slingers was. Honest to God, only very young kids could enjoy it. Disney has absolutely no excuse for a 25+ year old ride (amazing adventures of spider-man), totally smoking their ride when they have so much money and resources
@@deadstriderexactly web slingers was so trash. I was very excited when Disney was hyping up the campus and web slingers (and this was right after endgame too). But I went opening week and realized the land and ride were so low budget and lazy that it’s something I’d expect to see at six flags not Disney 😂
@@deadstrider Disney has been coasting on their brand name for quite awhile now, everyone is questioning how long it will last. Longer than we'd all like it seems.
The Lego ninjago ride was my jam!! I don’t know why but the effects in that ride were infinitely more satisfying than the web shooting. And it had a decent amount of practical effects compared to spidey :/ when they announced the ride system I was hoping it was going to be like ninjago, but I guess not…
It’s their obsession with not dating the parks. Wakanda is very much a 2018 time capsule. Black panther 2 didn’t do great and obviously they don’t have the late Chadwick Boseman to spearhead it.
Even a non die hard Disney fan will immediately see that this land was envisioned by an executive in a board room for the sole purpose of pushing out a brand. Disney thinks its customers are suckers. The short term returns might show but give it the test of time and this place is going to get stale quick.
One thing you didn't mention, which may seem like a minor nitpick but I think epitomizes the "current Disney" sloppiness, is how they oriented the huge red Spider-Man logo so you can clearly see it from Cars Land (no trees or walls blocking it). This is particularly weird because the walkway through Avenger's Campus at this location is very narrow (like a hallway) with traffic flowing past this point to get into our out of the land. Since the Spider-Man structure is a mix of modern and old-industrial architecture, they could have made this section (viewable from Cars Land) old industrial (brick, rusted metal) which would have looked fine from Cars Land, and then had the modern, bright red portion and logo be seen only by traffic flowing through Avenger's Campus (by turning the signage 90-degrees as a "blade sign").
They dedicated all that real estate to a Dr. Strange show, designed all that landscaping and photo ops to hype it up and “immerse” you, only to have a stage area so small only like 12 people could have an unobstructed view, and it was some poor schlub in fake sideburns doing birthday party magic tricks. And it’s gone now. Wild.
Replacing tower of terror with Guardian’s of the Galaxy was just lazy and a way to save money. They should have kept twilight zone and built a separate ride for Guardians
Even though I’m not a fan of intense roller coasters, they should have build cosmic rewind here since California adventure badly needs good rides. I don’t understand why they gave us the re skin yet gave wdw the one actually good avengers ride
@@dayoldbread1696 Agree, Avenger's Campus (and DCA) needs a Cosmic Rewind level coaster to finally achieve legitimate full-day (and full-price admission) park status. Having one unthemed (let's face it) Six Flags style coaster for nearly a quarter century since the park opened? It's just brazen cheapness and laziness.
And Tower of Terror will be coming back due to Disney being broken up like Standard Oil was and losing Marvel resulting in Disney having to remove all things Marvel from the parks to avoid the billions licensing fees.
Imagine a Marvelous Manhattan. NYC in The Marvel Universe. Tower of Terror into Stark Tower, Freedom Four Plaza, reskinned Mystery Manor into Sanctum Santorum etc.
Lets face it, standing outside a generic building looking up 1-2 stories at half-obscured, low-energy characters kind of misses the mark for "immersion".
The Avengers Campus as it is today has a very "this is it?" flavor to it. I remember hearing from my sibling (who's a huge Marvel fan) that they were disappointed when they went, and I was almost in denial when I saw it for myself, woof Keep up the great work on these videos, you've got a distinct style in the way you discuss theme park stuff and it's obvious you're passionate. And also if anyone ever gives you crap for your opinions, take comfort and know that they're just mad because they're wrong lol
Sadly, in expanding the land they are doubling down on the boring corporate architecture with more of the Irvine office-park aesthetic. With Avengers Campus 2.0 they should have turned Avenger's Campus into a battlefield with alien ships floating in the sky (like the rocks in Pandora). It could have been an exciting place, as one would expect of this IP.
Avengers Campus's days are numbered due to Disney being broken up under antitrust. Disney's days of owning Marvel are coming to an end in the near future.
It frustrates me we could have had a cool immersive location like asgard or Wakanda but instead we basically got a industrial district with a avengers overlay
Completely agree. AC is basically a shopping plaza. We barely walk through it on our way to Guardians. Disney could have done so much better. More rides/attractions and less shops. Great video 🎉
The most exciting thing here is the pretzel machine at pym’s which only works half the time now. I still don’t understand how there is this huge building, that we cannot enter 🤷🏻♀️
I’m still annoyed at them for not starting construction on the high budget avengers ride that they announced back in 2019. It’s 2025 and still no construction has started (so far it’s been 6 years since the rides original announcement). By the time the ride opens it’ll have been nearly 10-11 years since the rides original announcement. That’s ridiculous
😂 probably, although I’d say this is even worse considering they announced the avengers e ticket ride back in 2019. Yet it’s 2025 yet no construction has started on it. Disney is also notoriously slow with their construction these last few years, so (being generous) if it takes them 4-5 years to build the avengers e ticket it’ll have been 9-10 years since the rides original announcement.
My husband and I visited Universal Orlando for the first time last year. I could create a list on everything we loved more about UO in comparison to Disney, but truly one of the top five things that stuck out to me was Marvel Super Hero Island at Universal Islands of Adventure. Anyone who’s visited knows exactly what I’m talking about - their Marvel Island is what Avengers Campus should feel & look like. Universal’s design team did a perfect job bringing the comic book world to life. It’s colorful, it’s vibrant, and everything feels like it’s jumping out at you or pulling you into their world. I live in Orange County, CA & while we occasionally enjoy a visit to Disneyland now & then, we’re never interested in California Adventure - less lone Avengers Campus. I won’t go into the obvious and various reasons I don’t like DCA, but Avengers Campus definitely doesn’t put me in the world of The Avengers. It puts me in the mindset of when I was a 3rd year at UC Irvine running late to my late afternoon humanities class. Very crowded & very corporate looking environment. Also; anyone who’s been on DCA’s Spider-Man ride, web slingers? Yeah, I never hear anyone mention or recommend it as a must do. A fairly “new ride” that debuted almost 4 years ago gets no buzz, where cosmic rewind debuted almost 3 years ago & people are still talking about it like it debuted yesterday. Hell, The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man Ride at UO debuted in 1999 and 26 years later, it still remains unforgettable. We know Disney’s Imagineers are more than capable of creating immersive worlds to bring their stories/properties to life. This is why Disney is losing so many fans. They keep raising ticket prices, but are cheapening the experience.
My biggest issue with Campus's design is the same issue I have with the MCU as a whole: Where the hell is all the COLOR?! These are SUPERHEROES. Campus makes sense as a design but color-wise it's just dull and faded with its colors, draining the energy of what should be a land with characters larger than life. I remember when Universal had the Marvel rides and while they were not as elaborate as this, they were brimming with colors, like a comic book page coming to life. It caught your eye and screamed loudly for you to look at it and come inside. sure keep the Campus design, it makes sense setting wise, but add some color, perhaps some two-tone details as to harken back to their comic book origins. But that's the thing about the MCU, right? It's like they are almost ASHAMED they were comic book characters, fading any sense of appealing colors because "We need to be REALISTIC" which just translate to dull metals and faded blues and reds. It's hard to really sell "immersion" into something like the MCU because most of the time, the MCU's design objective was be as close to reality as possible, so your immersion is basically "you're now immersed in real life...but Iron man is over there waving at you". Is not like getting sucked into a retro-futuristic land, or a carnival made of toy parts, or hell even Galaxy's Edge and Cars Land give you more a feeling of immersion cause they are at least selling you into fantastical worlds that you WOULDN'T find in real life!! Remove the Cars from Cars Land and what do you have? Still you have stylized buildings, and canyons and thigns themed for living cars. If you remove the superheroes from Avengers Campus you just get an office building.
Touch to be a Bug was incredible. WEB Slingers is a one and done. And Mission BO is one of the cheapest feeling E-Tickets I've experienced. It's very "Dubai Darkride."
@brennaw.3345 there are lighting bars bolted above the doors which still have the brand names on them. The show scenes were eliminated to see one screen multiple times. The queue features quickly repainted TOT elements as well as a lot of random props thrown around. Why is there a giant boiler in the Collector's Fortress other than the fact Disney didn't want to deal with removing it? Not to mention how one-note the ride feels. Mission BO would be an okay Universal ride. And it's a subpar Disney ride. It's just cheap and lazy.
Mission Breakout is going away along with Avengers Campus due to Disney being broken up under antitrust and having to avoid paying billions of licensing fees. Tower of Terror will be coming back and no one will be upset about its return.
Nailed it. We visit Disneyland a ton but almost never bother with DCA. Not enough good rides and Avengers Campus is not a draw at all. Did Webslingers one time and have never bothered to go again.
Never had a desire to ride Web slingers for all of the same reasons you mentioned here. Even when I visited Walt Disney Studios at Disneyland Paris I had a second chance to ride it there and refused. Way too much work too short and just uninteresting to me. Such a shame. I think the claw attraction with iron Man will have an hourly capacity of 50 people based on the artwork. That's going to be a waste also.
The crazy thing is they could have just made it like a “Avengers Training ground” and took their New York street set that they removed from Hollywood studios and that would have felt pretty cool and you could theme Web Slingers to a midtown high school science fair. And fun billboards for Nelson and Murdock and other Easter eggs.
They replaced the kid's area (A Bug's Land) with Avengers Capus...they at least could have delivered on the "training" theme with an interactive children's play area/structure like Universal is doing in the How to Train Your Dragon area of Epic Universe. Kids could pretend to be superheroes, there could be photo ops for mom and dad to capture their kids bending steal, busting through walls, flying, etc.
You lost me at, successful opening of Galaxy's Edge??? It's Star Wars without Star Wars...lol. I think the only reason people still go there is because of the beer...
For me it annoyed me that the land was so huge yet pretty much 70% of everything to do in the land was just buying food or merchandise. The bounty hunter game was a welcome addition but the land needs at least one more ride (like the bantha ride they promised us then cancelled). The land also needs at least one more show. Also maybe it’s just me but while rise of the resistance was amazing, smugglers run was not; especially being in the same park as star tours. Smugglers run isn’t as bad as web slingers but it still was pretty disappointing. Also while Disney promised so many amazing things for the land, they cut like 80% of it before the land even finished being built, so that ended up falling flat. The land looks good visually but since everything is so static (no kinetic energy) it feels more like I’m on a Star Wars movie set instead of an actual Star Wars bustling alien planet. Had they not cancelled the stuff they promised, like the roaming droids and alien actors, then maybe the land would be way better. Also just a thought, but it would have been fun if you could actually explore the land, like if they put in some hidden areas to find/explore instead of making everything a gift shop or restaurant.
@@dayoldbread1696 I agree with all this. The four main problems of Galaxy's Edge are (1) lack of Original Trilogy; (2) lack of kinetic energy; (3) lackluster Smuggler's Run means there's only one high-demand attraction; (4) lack of happiness (laughter, joy, energy...in many other lands such as Fantasyland, Tomorrowland, Toontown, Adventureland...you can see and hear people having fun. Galaxy's Edge is a sad place). A Bantha ride could address all three. But I also think from an attraction standpoint, the guaranteed win would be a themed roller caster...it could be as ambitious as Cosmic Rewind or less ambitious like Seven Dwarfs, but either way it would be a rope-drop crowd-driver. If it had some exposed elements (not all indoors) we could hear cheerful screaming and laughter and see the movement of the vehicles...which would help. A Jawa Droid Factory coaster (with swinging gondolas from Seven Dwarfs) addresses all the needs above and also ties into the land's key merchandise category: Droids.
I thought this was a Disney Adult video, guess I was wrong. Not that I care for Disney but it’s good to see someone give insight of what a theme park looks like.
The one in Paris is actually pretty good because A, the tower of terror isn't touched (a W for me) and B they have the iron man ride which is awesome. They also have an Ant-man restaurant and the same Spiderman ride which is okay but overall it's the best one.
they shouldve done like a mix of avengers campus and then a building portal area to a "visitor section" to KNOWWHERE, and a WAKANDA embassy, etc... . those would've been epic.
The whole web slingers tech would have been cooler if they scattered a couple stations throughout the park for guests to interact with. Sort of like the Wands at Harry Potter, but free because you don’t need a wand. Making it a whole ride mechanic is tiring
I believe Disney made this land more for the merchandise. They thought guests would come to the land see the characters they love and buy all the merch in the gift shops and buy photo ops. No need to actually put some heart into it
They had so many ideas to work with for an avengers themed area but yet they went with the most bland and unimaginative one possible (Wakanda, asgard, knowwhere, or Newyork) Newyork gives the most options though since they could have made both and avengers and fantastic four themed attraction. That isnt even considering all the more street level characters for NY like daredevil and moonknight
What a complete waste of money and experiences. Bugsland was far superior to this with rides for small children. 1 F'n ride versus 6 rides for families to experience. Disney destroyed Tough to be a bug, Francis Ladybug boogie, Flicks Flyers, Tuck n Roll bumper cars, Heimlich's Chew Chew Train, and Dot's splash pad for Web Slingers...yeah way to go.
What I don’t understand is their phased method of opening. I understand the business aspect of it, but that Spider-Man ride is outdated technology for Disneys standards and is a waste. Also, I cannot believe they announced the e ticket ride in 2019 and they’re supposedly finally gonna break ground 6 YEARS LATER. This by far is one of the worst lands they’ve ever built, I often just walk through this land. Spending zero time in it cuz it’s nothing but a glorified shopping mall with a bar.
It’s even more disappointing that the original announcement of the e ticket ride involved a way better ride. You’d start off in a motion simulator then your seats “eject” out of the motion base, and you’d then get to fly your own jetpack seat. That part involved a kuka arm. That sounds a thousand times better than what we are getting after that was cancelled, an avengers re skin of the Peter Pan ride at Tokyo Disney sea. Also yeah its pretty ridiculous that by the time the ride opens it’ll have been nearly 10 years since the rides original announcement 😂
@@dayoldbread1696 i was at that D23 when they announced the land/ride in 2019. Was very excited, and can’t believe Universal Orlando announced Epic Universe that same year and is opening in 2025. And this damn Avengers ride hasn’t even started construction yet to be built! It’s just sad what disney has become, guardians mission breakout opened 9 months after tower closed, in these days that would have taken years!
@@jtlegionnaire6310 - It would be nice if they built it as a recognizable place from S.W. 4, 5 or 6. It looks more like a bunch of toadstools and not Star Wars.
Personally, i love Radiator Springs Racers and character meet and greets. I agree that Avengers Campus sucks. I absolutely miss the DCA of 2012. Is that because of nostalgia? Most likely, yes. But i also think its because it was genuinely better in 2012 because it still had an identity. DCA now is an IP dumping ground.
I HATE AVENGERS CAMPUS!!! Ever since then i despise marvel!!! A bugs land was like a childhood friend of mine, but now that it’s gone, all we have is avengers crappus
When they build a Star Wars coaster behind Olga's, the land will actually have energy, feel crowded, deliver on expectations, and justify the 14 acres of concrete buildings. That's when it will be successful.
Spider-Man vs tough to be a bug, hiemlichs choo choo, flicks flyers, the splash pad, tuck and rolls, and Francis lady bug boogie.. wtf? Let’s go back to bugs land please web slingers sucks
I mean, I recently visited the one in Disneyland Paris & I had so much fun with the WEB ride, heck, I have a whole bunch of merch from WEB that I brought home with me. The PYM kitchen was one of the most creative restaurants I’ve ever dined at Yes, Avengers Campus is not perfect but it does have expansion potential, maybe they could eventually expand it with a Wakanda themed area or use another Marvel IP for an Avenger’s Campus expansion in the future
i’m gonna do some kind arguing: i did a photoshoot here and at certain angles and spaces (certainly not all of them) the photos were pretty cool. the music makes the whole vibe feel powerful. it needs serious help but there’s also plenty of artistic potential!
Webslingers was cool…once. The ride is short and going on it now, since it’s opening you can tell they accelerated each screen to put more people on the ride. Seems like it’s at 1.5 or 1.75 speed now. So you wait 60 min for like 3 minutes.
This is an example of what you get when the management and head of your company says that there will be NO original ideas allowed at corporate disney and that ALL will be IP ONLY. Then you run off the vast majority of true imagineers from WDI and hire DEI/ESG people from Ginsler to replace them!
After seeing how avengers campus and other things here at Disneyland turned out, I definitely believe that all the imagineers that Disney let go were scooped up by universal.
At first, i was enamoured with it. I loved the music when yoh walk in. But then when the gloss is over, its pretty shitty. Spider man is a glorified xbox kinect game and guardians is awesome but its just a rock version of tower. Other than that, i like pyms kitchen and thr place that sells the dark orb pastry. I do like the cast members though They atleast get the kids involved and make it upbeat.
i kinda liked Bugs Land growing up. When I visited California Adventure this past holiday, I wasn't really interested in the Avenger's Campus at all, lowkey forgot it existed
it all comes down to the empty promise they gave when they first announced it. i’m very curious to see how it’s going to stand once the expansion is finished, but the fact that it’ll be 7 years after the land open is ridiculous
14:20 The way Disney makes it might be fake and look boring, but have you seen the Bourne Stuntacular? It's script and obviously (very well) rehearsed but it looks insanely cool, and not only the special effects, the stunt actors sell it really well.
I love your videos so much. You’ve made me laugh so many times throughout the video. Your argument for the avengers theme song playing in the land being inappropriate is just so funny to me
I did appreciate being burned by Dr. Strange. I was wearing some neon Nikes and he was like, “what’s your name?”, and I told him, and he said, “what?”, and I told him again, and he said, “oh sorry, I couldn’t hear you over how loud your shoes are” 😄
OK this is probably the first real breakdown of the park that actually tells you the information. I have been to both parks in the 80s and 90s... it was truly magical as a kid. Literally typing this while wearing my Deadpool costume (yes I get the irony) it does seem odd that some of the most beloved rides from many generations are being replaced so quickly for the rebranding. After the Disney purchase, it felt like some of the heart had been lost. My niece went to work for Disney after finishing college and was a cast member until the pandemic. Even she would say it was a great opportunity, but she'd never do it again. I remember being made fun of as a kid for the very things that are billion dollar businesses now. Great video!! Subbed because of this one.
I mean, as far as the name goes, it was based on the comics. So it kinda made sense. It's basically the headquarters of the Avengers. I think the theming is pretty good there, but I will say, it 100% needs another BIG attraction. Rollercoaster...bigger dark ride, whatever. We shall see if it grows.
@@ducksfan_1149exactly. Galaxys edge was disappointing but still “decent”. Because it was at least big enough to walk around and its big e ticket ride was actually amazing. Although smugglers run is a pretty “lame ride”, it’s basically the web slingers of galaxy’s edge. They should have never cancelled the 3rd ride they had promised us for the land, the bantha ride. You’d get to ride on the back of an animatronic bantha. Anyways the land suffers from being so static, basically it feels like you are in a movie set instead of being on a live alien planet. Not to mention there are more gift shops and food places than actual rides. The land badly needed at least one more ride, and at least one good show. They also shouldn’t have cut the roaming alien actors that they had originally promised us for the land.
@@dayoldbread1696 I agree, the land needs some familiar OG Star Wars flavor and kinetics, If they put a Jawa Droid Factory coaster behind Olga's that would help...some of it could be exposed for kinetics (imagine a factory vibe with welding sparks and moving machinery) and you can hear some laughing and screaming which would would add a fun and happy vibe to the depressed, dour land.
I think it's also because the disney version of marvel is some of the most gray sad stuff. If they based it off the comic books, I think it would be better
the first (and only) time i went on webslingers was at my school's grad nite, the ride had been closed and just reopened as i was walking through avenger's campus to get to the much more exciting and worthwhile mission breakout. it was a total walk on and even that was too long of a wait for this ride. i wasnt a spiderman fan unlike the other screaming teenage girls in the preshow so the tom holland hologram wasn't worth it either. i also really miss it's tough to be a bug so i was even more mad that the best dca show was replaced by their worst attraction yet.
I am so looking forward to Avengers Campus being torn down to avoid the billions in licensing fees Disney will owe when the company is broken up like Standard Oil and Marvel is taken away. Marvel will be an independent company again and no one will miss Disney owning Marvel. All traces of Marvel in the parks will be removed.
There's actually a reason that was outside of Iger or Chapek's control: UNIVERSAL (they beat Disney to it, and got the superior version, forcing Disney into what actually happened)
If you’d like to see a more positive take on Avengers Campus, I’d reccomend Tendo the Diving Seal’s video on Web Slingers. Just to vary your intake and not be so bogged down in the negativity the land tends to get.
I totally agree! Though bugs land was so lame when I took my kids. That worm thing we rode just made me cringe on how much I was spending to do that! The Spiderman ride looks so lame as well. I too detest the word campus.
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Superstar Limo looks good in comparison.
This is why I really hate marvel and I’ve never been a big marvel fan or it’s films because marvel just sucks I’m sorry but all the movies and shows just suck.
@@tylawinberg Not even Stan Lee?
The parkour robot is really emblematic of current Disney design:
Spend a shit ton of money on some halfbaked technological novelty and then make the rest of the attraction as cheaply as possible to compensate.
Exactly. They spend money stupidly. They need less "innovation" and more "immersion." Spend more on scenic painters, talented environmental designers, set decorators, props, water features, landscaping, and practical environments and scenes in attractions...and less on overly-complex next-gen "interactive" ride systems that are broken down half the time.
Waste of money nobody wants .
you talking about how avengers campus is a stupid name made me realize that it looks like my university campus which is probably why i skip even going in the land during trips
The Chad Marvel Superhero Island vs. the virgin Avengers Campus
(Sorry I know this is a joke from like 2020 I just can’t really describe it any other way)
I was fucking blown away at how mediocre Web slingers was. Honest to God, only very young kids could enjoy it. Disney has absolutely no excuse for a 25+ year old ride (amazing adventures of spider-man), totally smoking their ride when they have so much money and resources
@@deadstriderI guess my dad and I are 20 and 50 year old very young kids.
@@anth636 guess so
@@deadstriderexactly web slingers was so trash. I was very excited when Disney was hyping up the campus and web slingers (and this was right after endgame too). But I went opening week and realized the land and ride were so low budget and lazy that it’s something I’d expect to see at six flags not Disney 😂
@@deadstrider Disney has been coasting on their brand name for quite awhile now, everyone is questioning how long it will last. Longer than we'd all like it seems.
Avengers Campus, we have one reskinned ride and a ride system that was featured at Legoland years before Disney even ripped out Bugs Land.
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The Lego ninjago ride was my jam!! I don’t know why but the effects in that ride were infinitely more satisfying than the web shooting. And it had a decent amount of practical effects compared to spidey :/ when they announced the ride system I was hoping it was going to be like ninjago, but I guess not…
i will never understand why Disney hasn't build wakanda... like... an avengers outpost in wakanda or something more... interesting.
It’s their obsession with not dating the parks. Wakanda is very much a 2018 time capsule.
Black panther 2 didn’t do great and obviously they don’t have the late Chadwick Boseman to spearhead it.
They should’ve saved that Wakanda Avengers Outpost land for that DL expansion project but instead we get Avengers Campus and lose A Bug’s Land
Wakanda in one park, and Asgard in another like Orlando
@@JonathanGaetasince Disneyland forward was approved I thought we are still getting that wakanda expansion of avengers campus?
@@dayoldbread1696 it’s still up in the air. We still don’t know where Pandora will go along with the Coco ride
Even a non die hard Disney fan will immediately see that this land was envisioned by an executive in a board room for the sole purpose of pushing out a brand. Disney thinks its customers are suckers. The short term returns might show but give it the test of time and this place is going to get stale quick.
Yup, exactly right 👍
One thing you didn't mention, which may seem like a minor nitpick but I think epitomizes the "current Disney" sloppiness, is how they oriented the huge red Spider-Man logo so you can clearly see it from Cars Land (no trees or walls blocking it).
This is particularly weird because the walkway through Avenger's Campus at this location is very narrow (like a hallway) with traffic flowing past this point to get into our out of the land. Since the Spider-Man structure is a mix of modern and old-industrial architecture, they could have made this section (viewable from Cars Land) old industrial (brick, rusted metal) which would have looked fine from Cars Land, and then had the modern, bright red portion and logo be seen only by traffic flowing through Avenger's Campus (by turning the signage 90-degrees as a "blade sign").
They dedicated all that real estate to a Dr. Strange show, designed all that landscaping and photo ops to hype it up and “immerse” you, only to have a stage area so small only like 12 people could have an unobstructed view, and it was some poor schlub in fake sideburns doing birthday party magic tricks. And it’s gone now. Wild.
However, at least that area is "themed" and isn't just standard office park architecture/materials like the rest of the "land" 🤣
Replacing tower of terror with Guardian’s of the Galaxy was just lazy and a way to save money. They should have kept twilight zone and built a separate ride for Guardians
Even though I’m not a fan of intense roller coasters, they should have build cosmic rewind here since California adventure badly needs good rides. I don’t understand why they gave us the re skin yet gave wdw the one actually good avengers ride
@@dayoldbread1696 Agree, Avenger's Campus (and DCA) needs a Cosmic Rewind level coaster to finally achieve legitimate full-day (and full-price admission) park status. Having one unthemed (let's face it) Six Flags style coaster for nearly a quarter century since the park opened? It's just brazen cheapness and laziness.
And Tower of Terror will be coming back due to Disney being broken up like Standard Oil was and losing Marvel resulting in Disney having to remove all things Marvel from the parks to avoid the billions licensing fees.
Imagine a Marvelous Manhattan. NYC in The Marvel Universe. Tower of Terror into Stark Tower, Freedom Four Plaza, reskinned Mystery Manor into Sanctum Santorum etc.
Lets face it, standing outside a generic building looking up 1-2 stories at half-obscured, low-energy characters kind of misses the mark for "immersion".
The Avengers Campus as it is today has a very "this is it?" flavor to it. I remember hearing from my sibling (who's a huge Marvel fan) that they were disappointed when they went, and I was almost in denial when I saw it for myself, woof
Keep up the great work on these videos, you've got a distinct style in the way you discuss theme park stuff and it's obvious you're passionate. And also if anyone ever gives you crap for your opinions, take comfort and know that they're just mad because they're wrong lol
thank you! my dad had a similar reaction when he saw it for the first time, i’ll never forget it LOL
Yeah, probably theming a whole land to look like luxury auto dealers was not the best use of the Marvel brand.
Sadly, in expanding the land they are doubling down on the boring corporate architecture with more of the Irvine office-park aesthetic.
With Avengers Campus 2.0 they should have turned Avenger's Campus into a battlefield with alien ships floating in the sky (like the rocks in Pandora). It could have been an exciting place, as one would expect of this IP.
Hopefully the wakanda expansion of the campus will fix that
Avengers Campus's days are numbered due to Disney being broken up under antitrust. Disney's days of owning Marvel are coming to an end in the near future.
So THATS why the restroom line was insane at Avenger’s Campus! Cant believe they didn’t upgrade them
It frustrates me we could have had a cool immersive location like asgard or Wakanda but instead we basically got a industrial district with a avengers overlay
Completely agree. AC is basically a shopping plaza. We barely walk through it on our way to Guardians. Disney could have done so much better. More rides/attractions and less shops. Great video 🎉
The Avengers Campus that went to Paris originally is arguably just as bad, a reskinned Rock n Rollercoaster and the same Spider-Man ride.
To this day, the Marvel Super Hero Island at Universal Studios Orlando is still better then Disneyland’s Avengers Campus.
The most exciting thing here is the pretzel machine at pym’s which only works half the time now. I still don’t understand how there is this huge building, that we cannot enter 🤷🏻♀️
I’m still annoyed at them for not starting construction on the high budget avengers ride that they announced back in 2019. It’s 2025 and still no construction has started (so far it’s been 6 years since the rides original announcement). By the time the ride opens it’ll have been nearly 10-11 years since the rides original announcement. That’s ridiculous
Exactly right 👍
Must be the same team that took 3 years to build a few high school cafeterias at Epcot that just opened
😂 probably, although I’d say this is even worse considering they announced the avengers e ticket ride back in 2019. Yet it’s 2025 yet no construction has started on it. Disney is also notoriously slow with their construction these last few years, so (being generous) if it takes them 4-5 years to build the avengers e ticket it’ll have been 9-10 years since the rides original announcement.
Heimlich's choo choo ride died for this. So sad.
My husband and I visited Universal Orlando for the first time last year. I could create a list on everything we loved more about UO in comparison to Disney, but truly one of the top five things that stuck out to me was Marvel Super Hero Island at Universal Islands of Adventure. Anyone who’s visited knows exactly what I’m talking about - their Marvel Island is what Avengers Campus should feel & look like. Universal’s design team did a perfect job bringing the comic book world to life. It’s colorful, it’s vibrant, and everything feels like it’s jumping out at you or pulling you into their world.
I live in Orange County, CA & while we occasionally enjoy a visit to Disneyland now & then, we’re never interested in California Adventure - less lone Avengers Campus. I won’t go into the obvious and various reasons I don’t like DCA, but Avengers Campus definitely doesn’t put me in the world of The Avengers. It puts me in the mindset of when I was a 3rd year at UC Irvine running late to my late afternoon humanities class. Very crowded & very corporate looking environment.
Also; anyone who’s been on DCA’s Spider-Man ride, web slingers? Yeah, I never hear anyone mention or recommend it as a must do. A fairly “new ride” that debuted almost 4 years ago gets no buzz, where cosmic rewind debuted almost 3 years ago & people are still talking about it like it debuted yesterday. Hell, The Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man Ride at UO debuted in 1999 and 26 years later, it still remains unforgettable.
We know Disney’s Imagineers are more than capable of creating immersive worlds to bring their stories/properties to life. This is why Disney is losing so many fans. They keep raising ticket prices, but are cheapening the experience.
"Campus" sounds like "School"
My biggest issue with Campus's design is the same issue I have with the MCU as a whole: Where the hell is all the COLOR?!
These are SUPERHEROES. Campus makes sense as a design but color-wise it's just dull and faded with its colors, draining the energy of what should be a land with characters larger than life.
I remember when Universal had the Marvel rides and while they were not as elaborate as this, they were brimming with colors, like a comic book page coming to life. It caught your eye and screamed loudly for you to look at it and come inside. sure keep the Campus design, it makes sense setting wise, but add some color, perhaps some two-tone details as to harken back to their comic book origins.
But that's the thing about the MCU, right? It's like they are almost ASHAMED they were comic book characters, fading any sense of appealing colors because "We need to be REALISTIC" which just translate to dull metals and faded blues and reds.
It's hard to really sell "immersion" into something like the MCU because most of the time, the MCU's design objective was be as close to reality as possible, so your immersion is basically "you're now immersed in real life...but Iron man is over there waving at you". Is not like getting sucked into a retro-futuristic land, or a carnival made of toy parts, or hell even Galaxy's Edge and Cars Land give you more a feeling of immersion cause they are at least selling you into fantastical worlds that you WOULDN'T find in real life!! Remove the Cars from Cars Land and what do you have? Still you have stylized buildings, and canyons and thigns themed for living cars. If you remove the superheroes from Avengers Campus you just get an office building.
Touch to be a Bug was incredible. WEB Slingers is a one and done. And Mission BO is one of the cheapest feeling E-Tickets I've experienced. It's very "Dubai Darkride."
I agree with everything except your take on Mission: Breakout. That ride is a blast, and the queue is awesome too. It feels well thought-out.
@@brennaw.3345 The retheme was done by joe rhode within 11 months
@brennaw.3345 there are lighting bars bolted above the doors which still have the brand names on them. The show scenes were eliminated to see one screen multiple times. The queue features quickly repainted TOT elements as well as a lot of random props thrown around. Why is there a giant boiler in the Collector's Fortress other than the fact Disney didn't want to deal with removing it? Not to mention how one-note the ride feels.
Mission BO would be an okay Universal ride. And it's a subpar Disney ride. It's just cheap and lazy.
Mission Breakout is going away along with Avengers Campus due to Disney being broken up under antitrust and having to avoid paying billions of licensing fees. Tower of Terror will be coming back and no one will be upset about its return.
My stepmom once mistakenly referred to it as “Avengers Canyon” and that’s what I call it now
Nailed it. We visit Disneyland a ton but almost never bother with DCA. Not enough good rides and Avengers Campus is not a draw at all. Did Webslingers one time and have never bothered to go again.
I got so much crap from my family for being terrified of its tough to be a bug when I was a kid. Glad to hear somebody had a similar experience 😂
Surprisingly it never scared me but the stink bug scene I remember it making me want to throw up, so that’s why I never went on it ever again 😂
Never had a desire to ride Web slingers for all of the same reasons you mentioned here. Even when I visited Walt Disney Studios at Disneyland Paris I had a second chance to ride it there and refused. Way too much work too short and just uninteresting to me. Such a shame. I think the claw attraction with iron Man will have an hourly capacity of 50 people based on the artwork. That's going to be a waste also.
Bugs life deserves better
The crazy thing is they could have just made it like a “Avengers Training ground” and took their New York street set that they removed from Hollywood studios and that would have felt pretty cool and you could theme Web Slingers to a midtown high school science fair. And fun billboards for Nelson and Murdock and other Easter eggs.
They replaced the kid's area (A Bug's Land) with Avengers Capus...they at least could have delivered on the "training" theme with an interactive children's play area/structure like Universal is doing in the How to Train Your Dragon area of Epic Universe. Kids could pretend to be superheroes, there could be photo ops for mom and dad to capture their kids bending steal, busting through walls, flying, etc.
You lost me at, successful opening of Galaxy's Edge??? It's Star Wars without Star Wars...lol. I think the only reason people still go there is because of the beer...
For me it annoyed me that the land was so huge yet pretty much 70% of everything to do in the land was just buying food or merchandise. The bounty hunter game was a welcome addition but the land needs at least one more ride (like the bantha ride they promised us then cancelled).
The land also needs at least one more show. Also maybe it’s just me but while rise of the resistance was amazing, smugglers run was not; especially being in the same park as star tours. Smugglers run isn’t as bad as web slingers but it still was pretty disappointing. Also while Disney promised so many amazing things for the land, they cut like 80% of it before the land even finished being built, so that ended up falling flat.
The land looks good visually but since everything is so static (no kinetic energy) it feels more like I’m on a Star Wars movie set instead of an actual Star Wars bustling alien planet. Had they not cancelled the stuff they promised, like the roaming droids and alien actors, then maybe the land would be way better. Also just a thought, but it would have been fun if you could actually explore the land, like if they put in some hidden areas to find/explore instead of making everything a gift shop or restaurant.
@@dayoldbread1696 I agree with all this. The four main problems of Galaxy's Edge are (1) lack of Original Trilogy; (2) lack of kinetic energy; (3) lackluster Smuggler's Run means there's only one high-demand attraction; (4) lack of happiness (laughter, joy, energy...in many other lands such as Fantasyland, Tomorrowland, Toontown, Adventureland...you can see and hear people having fun. Galaxy's Edge is a sad place).
A Bantha ride could address all three. But I also think from an attraction standpoint, the guaranteed win would be a themed roller caster...it could be as ambitious as Cosmic Rewind or less ambitious like Seven Dwarfs, but either way it would be a rope-drop crowd-driver. If it had some exposed elements (not all indoors) we could hear cheerful screaming and laughter and see the movement of the vehicles...which would help. A Jawa Droid Factory coaster (with swinging gondolas from Seven Dwarfs) addresses all the needs above and also ties into the land's key merchandise category: Droids.
It’s funny that the much older universal studios Spider-Man ride is way better than the Disney one
I guess I’m both surprised and not surprised that Disney cancelled the Dr. Strange show.
Tower of terror being changed to guardians of the Galaxy is what made it fail. Bring it back.
I thought this was a Disney Adult video, guess I was wrong. Not that I care for Disney but it’s good to see someone give insight of what a theme park looks like.
They should’ve kept a bugs land & built avengers campus somewhere else, like on extra land.
themeparknerd your comedy is so underrated. the delivery is always spot on thanks for another great video king!!
The whole project just screams laziness.
The one in Paris is actually pretty good because A, the tower of terror isn't touched (a W for me) and B they have the iron man ride which is awesome. They also have an Ant-man restaurant and the same Spiderman ride which is okay but overall it's the best one.
they shouldve done like a mix of avengers campus and then a building portal area to a "visitor section" to KNOWWHERE, and a WAKANDA embassy, etc... . those would've been epic.
The whole web slingers tech would have been cooler if they scattered a couple stations throughout the park for guests to interact with. Sort of like the Wands at Harry Potter, but free because you don’t need a wand. Making it a whole ride mechanic is tiring
I believe Disney made this land more for the merchandise. They thought guests would come to the land see the characters they love and buy all the merch in the gift shops and buy photo ops. No need to actually put some heart into it
They had so many ideas to work with for an avengers themed area but yet they went with the most bland and unimaginative one possible
(Wakanda, asgard, knowwhere, or Newyork)
Newyork gives the most options though since they could have made both and avengers and fantastic four themed attraction. That isnt even considering all the more street level characters for NY like daredevil and moonknight
What a complete waste of money and experiences. Bugsland was far superior to this with rides for small children. 1 F'n ride versus 6 rides for families to experience. Disney destroyed Tough to be a bug, Francis Ladybug boogie, Flicks Flyers, Tuck n Roll bumper cars, Heimlich's Chew Chew Train, and Dot's splash pad for Web Slingers...yeah way to go.
What I don’t understand is their phased method of opening. I understand the business aspect of it, but that Spider-Man ride is outdated technology for Disneys standards and is a waste. Also, I cannot believe they announced the e ticket ride in 2019 and they’re supposedly finally gonna break ground 6 YEARS LATER.
This by far is one of the worst lands they’ve ever built, I often just walk through this land. Spending zero time in it cuz it’s nothing but a glorified shopping mall with a bar.
Is there a bar? Actually, a Dr. Strange bar with effects and illusions would be cool.
@ the bar at Pyms, there is so many cool things Disney could have done with the marvel IP. But what we got is so lazy and uninspired.
It’s even more disappointing that the original announcement of the e ticket ride involved a way better ride. You’d start off in a motion simulator then your seats “eject” out of the motion base, and you’d then get to fly your own jetpack seat. That part involved a kuka arm.
That sounds a thousand times better than what we are getting after that was cancelled, an avengers re skin of the Peter Pan ride at Tokyo Disney sea. Also yeah its pretty ridiculous that by the time the ride opens it’ll have been nearly 10 years since the rides original announcement 😂
@@dayoldbread1696 i was at that D23 when they announced the land/ride in 2019. Was very excited, and can’t believe Universal Orlando announced Epic Universe that same year and is opening in 2025. And this damn Avengers ride hasn’t even started construction yet to be built! It’s just sad what disney has become, guardians mission breakout opened 9 months after tower closed, in these days that would have taken years!
Galaxy's Edge a "success"? It has two rides, period, and those are usually not working, and the rest are overpriced gift shops and restaurants.
There’s literally nothing in Galaxy’s Edge, all I see is expensive, expensive, and more expensive.
Exactly, it wasn’t as bad as avengers campus but still was pretty disappointing.
@@JonathanGaeta - Disney is trying to use the parks to recovery money it lost from its terrible movies.
It’s also a very gray area based on a location not in any of the movies
@@jtlegionnaire6310 - It would be nice if they built it as a recognizable place from S.W. 4, 5 or 6. It looks more like a bunch of toadstools and not Star Wars.
Personally, i love Radiator Springs Racers and character meet and greets. I agree that Avengers Campus sucks. I absolutely miss the DCA of 2012. Is that because of nostalgia? Most likely, yes. But i also think its because it was genuinely better in 2012 because it still had an identity. DCA now is an IP dumping ground.
I HATE AVENGERS CAMPUS!!!
Ever since then i despise marvel!!!
A bugs land was like a childhood friend of mine, but now that it’s gone, all we have is avengers crappus
Three marvel lands were disappointed. Hopefully they would improve after expansion but seems Paris won’t get that
I really wish Galaxy's edge didn't become a success
And it was overhyped AF before Galaxy’s Edge opened.
It didn't.
When they build a Star Wars coaster behind Olga's, the land will actually have energy, feel crowded, deliver on expectations, and justify the 14 acres of concrete buildings. That's when it will be successful.
Galaxy's Edge is going to be torn down upon Disney being broken up and losing Lucasfilm under antitrust. No one will miss it.
Avengers Land needed way more love put into it.
I go to Disneyland once a week. And I never go in that campus. There's nothing to do there.
Except homework 🤣
Who is Avengers Campus for, some Marvel fan that never met another Marvel fan?
Spider-Man vs tough to be a bug, hiemlichs choo choo, flicks flyers, the splash pad, tuck and rolls, and Francis lady bug boogie.. wtf? Let’s go back to bugs land please web slingers sucks
Should have tower of terror into stark tower
I mean, I recently visited the one in Disneyland Paris & I had so much fun with the WEB ride, heck, I have a whole bunch of merch from WEB that I brought home with me. The PYM kitchen was one of the most creative restaurants I’ve ever dined at
Yes, Avengers Campus is not perfect but it does have expansion potential, maybe they could eventually expand it with a Wakanda themed area or use another Marvel IP for an Avenger’s Campus expansion in the future
i’m gonna do some kind arguing: i did a photoshoot here and at certain angles and spaces (certainly not all of them) the photos were pretty cool. the music makes the whole vibe feel powerful. it needs serious help but there’s also plenty of artistic potential!
Webslingers was cool…once. The ride is short and going on it now, since it’s opening you can tell they accelerated each screen to put more people on the ride. Seems like it’s at 1.5 or 1.75 speed now. So you wait 60 min for like 3 minutes.
This is an example of what you get when the management and head of your company says that there will be NO original ideas allowed at corporate disney and that ALL will be IP ONLY. Then you run off the vast majority of true imagineers from WDI and hire DEI/ESG people from Ginsler to replace them!
After seeing how avengers campus and other things here at Disneyland turned out, I definitely believe that all the imagineers that Disney let go were scooped up by universal.
You just exposed youre ignorance using DEI, enbred
At first, i was enamoured with it. I loved the music when yoh walk in. But then when the gloss is over, its pretty shitty. Spider man is a glorified xbox kinect game and guardians is awesome but its just a rock version of tower. Other than that, i like pyms kitchen and thr place that sells the dark orb pastry.
I do like the cast members though
They atleast get the kids involved and make it upbeat.
i kinda liked Bugs Land growing up. When I visited California Adventure this past holiday, I wasn't really interested in the Avenger's Campus at all, lowkey forgot it existed
Yeah it really sucks…
Bugs land was one of the best themed land, to be replaced by a bland campus
Disney... We buy OTHER people's ideas and then claim them as our own.
it all comes down to the empty promise they gave when they first announced it. i’m very curious to see how it’s going to stand once the expansion is finished, but the fact that it’ll be 7 years after the land open is ridiculous
The only thing that was good, was Deadpool
Ok let’s be honest the two new rides are going to make it way better
But we lose the Red Car Trolley for those 2 new rides at Avengers Campus
@@JonathanGaeta red car trolly is not that big of a loss one will be on Beuna vistisa street just not moving
LMAO “after the success of galaxy’s edge.” Success? Does Jenny Nicholson have a 4 hour long video for you.
galaxy’s edge is the land, not the hotel. the land was a success.
The word campus in the name is an abbreviation for something that I don’t remeber
“Centralized Assembly Mobilized to Prepare, Unite and Safeguard“
@ thank you
You were born in the 2000's?!?! I have shoes older than you!!!
14:20 The way Disney makes it might be fake and look boring, but have you seen the Bourne Stuntacular? It's script and obviously (very well) rehearsed but it looks insanely cool, and not only the special effects, the stunt actors sell it really well.
I love your videos so much. You’ve made me laugh so many times throughout the video.
Your argument for the avengers theme song playing in the land being inappropriate is just so funny to me
Bugs land wasn’t amazing but was much better then Avengers Campus. Our kids never want to go to AC and they love Marvel. Such a waste of space
Aren't they getting rid of Deadpool's show too?
Edit: Universal's Island of Adventure's Spider-Man is a family ride and way more entertaining
I did appreciate being burned by Dr. Strange. I was wearing some neon Nikes and he was like, “what’s your name?”, and I told him, and he said, “what?”, and I told him again, and he said, “oh sorry, I couldn’t hear you over how loud your shoes are” 😄
"I do not miss 'It's Tough to be a Bug at all"
*subscribes*
OK this is probably the first real breakdown of the park that actually tells you the information. I have been to both parks in the 80s and 90s... it was truly magical as a kid. Literally typing this while wearing my Deadpool costume (yes I get the irony) it does seem odd that some of the most beloved rides from many generations are being replaced so quickly for the rebranding. After the Disney purchase, it felt like some of the heart had been lost. My niece went to work for Disney after finishing college and was a cast member until the pandemic. Even she would say it was a great opportunity, but she'd never do it again. I remember being made fun of as a kid for the very things that are billion dollar businesses now.
Great video!! Subbed because of this one.
Face characters of real actors make 0 sense. It even breaks illusion for kids
I mean, as far as the name goes, it was based on the comics. So it kinda made sense. It's basically the headquarters of the Avengers. I think the theming is pretty good there, but I will say, it 100% needs another BIG attraction. Rollercoaster...bigger dark ride, whatever. We shall see if it grows.
Turn Web Slinger into the queue building for a Spider-Man coaster and THEN fans will be satisfied this land is delivering on Marvel excitement.
When is the vid about Mission Breakout coming??? I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on that
Was avengers campus more disappointing than galaxy's edge?
yes and it’s not close
@@ducksfan_1149exactly. Galaxys edge was disappointing but still “decent”. Because it was at least big enough to walk around and its big e ticket ride was actually amazing. Although smugglers run is a pretty “lame ride”, it’s basically the web slingers of galaxy’s edge.
They should have never cancelled the 3rd ride they had promised us for the land, the bantha ride. You’d get to ride on the back of an animatronic bantha. Anyways the land suffers from being so static, basically it feels like you are in a movie set instead of being on a live alien planet. Not to mention there are more gift shops and food places than actual rides. The land badly needed at least one more ride, and at least one good show. They also shouldn’t have cut the roaming alien actors that they had originally promised us for the land.
@@dayoldbread1696 I agree, the land needs some familiar OG Star Wars flavor and kinetics, If they put a Jawa Droid Factory coaster behind Olga's that would help...some of it could be exposed for kinetics (imagine a factory vibe with welding sparks and moving machinery) and you can hear some laughing and screaming which would would add a fun and happy vibe to the depressed, dour land.
A bug's land on 🔝
I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was traumatized by It's Tough to be a Bug.
I think it's also because the disney version of marvel is some of the most gray sad stuff. If they based it off the comic books, I think it would be better
I disagree with most of what you said but I still enjoyed the video, good job! Keep up the good work!
the first (and only) time i went on webslingers was at my school's grad nite, the ride had been closed and just reopened as i was walking through avenger's campus to get to the much more exciting and worthwhile mission breakout. it was a total walk on and even that was too long of a wait for this ride. i wasnt a spiderman fan unlike the other screaming teenage girls in the preshow so the tom holland hologram wasn't worth it either. i also really miss it's tough to be a bug so i was even more mad that the best dca show was replaced by their worst attraction yet.
i dont think the coco ride will be replacing anything. but yeah i walked straight through this land on my last 3 visit. only rode guardians.
I am so looking forward to Avengers Campus being torn down to avoid the billions in licensing fees Disney will owe when the company is broken up like Standard Oil and Marvel is taken away. Marvel will be an independent company again and no one will miss Disney owning Marvel. All traces of Marvel in the parks will be removed.
Avengers academy.
There's actually a reason that was outside of Iger or Chapek's control: UNIVERSAL (they beat Disney to it, and got the superior version, forcing Disney into what actually happened)
From the point of hulk's snap to tony's snap in endgame was all on avengers campus, btw... but the park is still mid.
This is just like current Hong Kong Disneyland stark expo / Tomorrowland which makes hk Disneyland tomrowland very dull
I understand your feelings, I study Engineering as my major too...
If you’d like to see a more positive take on Avengers Campus, I’d reccomend Tendo the Diving Seal’s video on Web Slingers.
Just to vary your intake and not be so bogged down in the negativity the land tends to get.
Bugs Land was much better than Avengers Campus. Such a poor decision by Disney.
I totally agree! Though bugs land was so lame when I took my kids. That worm thing we rode just made me cringe on how much I was spending to do that! The Spiderman ride looks so lame as well. I too detest the word campus.
Heimlich’s Chew Chew Train
Pretty sure the same will happen to the Simpsons when the rights transfer to Disney from Universal in 2028
if we get a Simpsons land or ride at Disneyland or California adventure, I hope it doesn’t suck