Bill Murray's delivery of, "Please" is so, so good. His look conveys utter shock that Peck lacks such common courtesy as to not know that "please" is the magic word.
Courtesy is something Peck is unfamiliar with as he thinks that just because he works for the government, he can just waltz into people’s places and make demands. He’s one of those guys when given a little power, let’s it go straight to his head.
In retrospect, I’m surprised that the activities of Ghostbusters only attracted the attention of the EPA. They’re driving all over New York, and carrying what are essentially nuclear weapons that could easily turn the entire city into a giant fireball if misused. You’d think that both the FBI and the NYPD would be busting their door down. Both of them would be very unhappy over the fact that the Ghostbusters are in possession of dangerous, unlicensed equipment that could potentially put the public at great risk.
I always wondered if the government would ever try to force the Ghostbusters to make military-grade weapons out of their equipment. It would make logical sense if that was their ultimatum if they were forced to answer for all these problems they were faced with, had it not been for Gozer's arrival.
By Ghostbusters 2, Winston states they did at least get fined by nearly every possible local government body, so it's not like they got away with everything. True that it's insane they weren't further investigated by larger authorities, but this is in a universe with ghosts and nonbinary gods with demon dog servants, so who knows, maybe they're used to it.
Peck’s antagonising Peter right from the start. Speaking to him like he’s beneath him, not using his proper title despite concrete evidence of PhD’s on the wall... if he wants respect from people, Peck ought to respect them first.
I 100% agree however in the reverse but yes overall you are right. Both of the egos here were clashing hard. Both of these men sizing each other up and Peck obviously had the first "Strategic Intel" over Peck while overhearing the conversation between the secretary and Vankmen. He got a inkling of who he would be dealing with before meeting him. However knowing Vankmen, even if Peck came with a cheerful and understanding attitude, Vankmen I feel would have always screwed himself with his Sarcasm and jokes. He would have never let down his walls. Maybe in the event of Peck being some kind of Investor than a EPA Agent, Vankmen would have been more forthcoming because money was now involved. I find this interaction interesting because this dance of personalities people do is just fun to breakdown.
William Atherton is Incredible Actor He always play a Sadistic Jerk in every movie Like in the two Die Hard Films but as Walter Peck He’s very nosy And he’s their nemesis of the Ghostbusters
Unfortunately after the movie, he was attacked in bars and had abuse shouted at him when he walked down the street by Ghostbuster fans who couldn’t tell fiction from reality.
I love Ghostbusters play Ghostbusters from the empire that's not a good one I don't like it that much like I like the old style back in 1984 used to be a good day with Ghostbusters
I love that Janine, after working more or less continuously for two weeks, isn’t asking for a raise, just for Venkman to hire someone else so she can have a couple days off, and he basically says “You don’t like it, quit.”
After all these years I am still noticing new things. I took my family to see this in theaters on October 30th 2021. Thankfully the kids liked it. But I never noticed @ 1:44 Jeane stick her head out like that lol. Seen this movie dozens of times. First time I noticed.
Still, the first time it was his fault. They said if the containment were to be shut off suddenly that it would be a catastrophe. I get that that the Ghostbusters probably are using illegal equipment but they specifically told Peck not to turn it off. Plus I read a comment that Peck was overstepping his boundaries by forcing them to shut it off
And besides he was convinced that the Ghostbusters used hallucinogenic gas and a light show to scam people into believing ghosts so it's hard for me to justify his concerns
I mean its either containment or demonic energies flooding the city. Its the only means they have to keep evil spirits from destroying the world. The big drawback is that all the ghosts get out if the containment fails, and it happens to have all the ghosts they catch. I think the solution is several locations to diffuse the total amounts and then work on finding a proper means of banishment. I dont think they found a way to do that though.
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable. * They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
@@Ragitsu Exactly! Even the Ghostbusters knew that they were playing with fire. Egon says, before the Ghostbusters buy their headquarters, that the building should be condemned. Yet Ray loves the fire pole, so it's a sale. Later, in the hotel elevator, Venkman mentions that each Ghostbuster is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back. Venkman knows that the Ghostbusters business is extremely dangerous, he acknowledges the necessity of licences in their line of work, yet he is totally obnoxious when Walter Peck visits the headquarters. Venkman is a duplicitous jerk. I'm amazed that people think that Venkman is totally right and that Peck is totally wrong. The ability to think rationally is absent from many who watch this film.
When I was a kid, we had this movie taped from tv - it was a bowdlerized version with the swearing removed, which was lame, except for this scene. In the suitable-for-tv version, instead of getting up and yelling at Walter Peck, Venkman just stayed seated and calmly said "You go get the court order, and I'll sue your funny face for wrongful prosecution." The more restrained "you don't scare me" reaction actually felt more in keeping with the character than the outburst in the normal version of the movie.
I heard the actor who played Walter Peck after this movie came out, was constantly harassed by people wherever he went because they couldn’t separate him from the character he played in the movie. I guess that’s a sign of a brilliant actor and I will admit Walter Peck is one of the great villains, possibly underrated in cinema history.
No mention of Bill Murray playing a prick named Peter Venkman? Example: Venkman's awful treatment of Janine right before he meets Peck. Wouldn't even give Janine a day off, despite the fact that Ghostbusters is doing extremely well financially. Another example: the way that Venkman harasses that fellow taking the extra sensory perception test. Venkman is a jerk.
Vankman jokes often but when Egon talks about danger-he listens. He is quiet long enough to gauge if there's any way around the danger but he is always serious with Egon and Danger
Thank you so much for this!!! Been watching Ghostbusters recently to help better myself as a person. Instead of panicking and getting upset and flustered like I used to as well as always blaming the world. Been trying to go the Peter Venkman route with my personality. Lemme tell you it is working!!! and feeling less depressed and less stress going the Venkman route even at a horrible situation.
Please don't. Venkman is an arsehole. His character was written that way as a plot device. No Venkman The Arsehole, no clash with Walter Peck, no showdown with Gozer, no saving New York City. Additionally, Venkman's attitude would see him eventually killed if he were a real person, as opposed to a fictional character. Another thing to remember is that you're not Bill Murray. What might sound funny coming from Murray in an Ivan Reitman film might sound charmless when dealing with folks in everyday life. Being happy-go-lucky is one thing, yet that's not Venkman. He's rude, antagonistic, and treats his secretary like garbage. Please don't be like Venkman.
@@gezzarandom The same thing happened to the young actor that played King Joffrey on Game of Thrones. He was harassed and attacked so much that he quit acting altogether.
Last night, watching this movie all the way through for the first time in a long time, I actually found myself initially sympathizing with Peck, noticing how Peter disrespects him right from the start, and feeling like if Peter had just shown him the equipment, it all would have been resolved quite easily. But then later he switched to believing they were frauds, and it was like, "Oh. OK. Never mind, then."
Peck was super disrespectful right from the get go. First he questions Dr. Venkmans credentials and his degrees. Then after knowing that he has doctorate in psychology and parapsychology purposefully calls him Mr. instead of doctor. The only reason venkman was a smartass back was because he could see through pecks intentions. I mean for gods sake, Venkman has degrees in two distinct fields that have to deal with behavior, I’m sure it wasn’t hard for him to see through pecks bullshit from the beginning.
Jw Joshua, but does your car have a "Thin Blie Line" bumper sticker? Because you seem well intentioned enough, but you completely mis-read the situation entirely.
@@cryptinflame4308 I'm not sure if Peck really believes Venkman's credentials are genuine. I think he's already made up his mind that the whole Ghostbusters operation is a big scam.
Walter Peck: And may I see this storage facility? Me: Uh uh uh. You didn't say the magic word. Uh uh uh. Uh uh uh. Bill Murray: No. Walter Peck: And why not, Mr. Venkman? Bill Murray: Because you did not use the magic word. Walter Peck: What is the magic word, Mr. Venkman? Bill Murray: 'Please'. Towards the end, the more Walter Peck talks the more I don't like him. He has no right to threaten my best idol like that! Screw him!
Walter Peck's confrontation with Venkman is thought-provoking. Peck is doing the right job, in the worst possible way. Someone should be concerned with the environmental effects of an unlicenced ghost hunting business. That someone does not need to be so interested in the academic credentials of the company's CEO. A small man with a big title, Peck is not able to keep his act together. He is pursuing a grand goal of protecting the environment, and gets stuck in petty bickering over academic degrees. As a man with no personal authority, no gift of negotiation and no powers of persuasion, Peck can only keep reminding the Ghostbusters that the rules are on his side, no matter what he does, because he has a position in the bureaucratic hierarchy and the Ghostbusters are nothing in that hierarchy. That he must do at the top of his lungs. The ability to confuse things and to turn the big into small and the small into big are essential traits of a modern bureaucracy. They are its very heart and soul. Such deep portrayals of a modern bureaucrat are seldom seen in movies.
I am slightly worried at how people seem to side with Peck over Venkman these days. Venkman remained cool and calm and Peck was petulant and power trippy, like this was the first time someone fought him back and his ego couldn't take it. He comes across as a fragile fascist type who can't withstand any pushback without losing his rag. Peck may have had a point but his attitude here is horrendous. So I'm still on Venkman's side. Peck stepped into Venkman's world thinking he'd own it and Venkman wrecked his ego. Is Peck really the kind of person people admire these days? Really? Is it any wonder why the world's so screwed?
I think you should actually listen to the arguments. The Ghostbusters are essentially carrying unlicensed nuclear energy sources on their backs. And they have destroyed city property. All Peck is saying is that the Ghostbusters need to take accountability for their actions
I actually crack up during this scene I don't know why but venkman just cracked me up in the scene cuz you did not use the magic word and you go get a court order just the way he said it just makes me hysterical
It’s like Peck’s saying, “Show me the storage facility, Venkman! That’s an order!” and Venkman's responding with, "Nobody comes into MY office and tells me what to do!"
"I represent the EPA, the third district". There is no 3rd District of the EPA. The EPA is divided into regions; New York is in Region 2. Peck also threatens to come back with a court order but the implication is that it's to force the Ghostbusters to let the EPA look for hazardous chemicals, and instead he comes back with a cease and desist order (which he doesn't actually let anyone see). This implies he actually lied to the judge about what was going on with the Ghostbusters, or that he's lying about what his supposed "cease and desist order" actually says. He later invokes the Environmental Protection Act and claims the Ghostbusters are in violation of it, but no such Act actually exists. Peck seems legit on the surface, but he's actually a really shady character.
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable. * They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
I kept thinking about this exchange, and as an older man now I picked up on all the subtle disrespect shown on both sides. Dr. Venkman rubbing slime on his suit and taking the friendly tone, and Peck kept calling him Mr. Venkman, jabbing at his bona fides. But recently, I didn't see Janine being nosy in the background until now. The first Ghostbusters was filled with great little moments like this.
3:25-3:28: Ernie Hudson as Winston: Tell him about Bob. Bill Murray as Peter: What About Bob? (Bill Murray who played as Bob Wiley on the movie "What About Bob?")
It might be that official notice came and was discarded for whatever reason. Movie doesn't really handle this plot-line well. Fact Peck shows up personally means someone has already blundered big time.
Never mind Walter Peck and the EPA. What was going on at their facility would have attracted the attention of the Fire Marshall along with every code inspector in the city.
Even if Peck was right in his concerns, he didn't do a proper investigation. When he got a warrant, he just ordered a technician to shut off the machine without investigating anything. The technician was reluctant since he didn't know what it was.
If I was a lawyer representing the Ghostbusters I would ask Peck to look at the court order and after reading it say to him where is the group of scientists wearing haz mat suits? You are investigating dangerous and nocturnal gases in the basement which will require scientists trained to look for such gases so where are they Mr Peck?
Conservatives: Hollywood has a liberal agenda Beloved Hollywood classic "Hi, I'm with the *Environmental Protection Agency* and I'm the villain in this movie"
It does have a leftist agenda. Wasn't always this way. They used to make movies purely for entertainment. Remember the 2016 Ghostbusters? I rest my case.
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable. * They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
@@manictiger In reality, if a business from out of nowhere is found out to be using *nuclear reactors* (and on a regular basis, too), you can bet someone is going to step in to shut them down and/or arrest them.
For anybody who says Venkman could have prevented Peck ruining everything by showing him the premises: A) Peck already showed signs of being a jerk by not respecting his doctorate and B) He didn't showed Venkman any credentials, so he had no reason to believe he was actually a goverment agent and not a scammer.
Yup. A real inspector would be filling out a checklist and would be focused on that specifically. "Do you catch ghosts?" is not relevant to "Do you have chemicals classified as toxic, corrosive, ignitable, or reactive?" or "What are your storage/disposal protocols for those chemicals?". A guy in a suit asking vague, science-y questions and immediately resorting to threats is a con man.
@@nomisunrider6472 Those were just small potatoes. The Ghostbusters would have been targeted by the FBI and potentially the CIA for having PROTONIC technology. So maybe Peck was actually a dyed-in-the-wool federal agent masquerading as a more humble EPA guy, but I think the Ghostbusters being swatted long before that moment would have been realistic lol. And even this is small potatoes. After all, Gozer had come into our realm and our world was about to be destroyed anyway, to speak nothing of Vigo the Carpathian's resurrection and new reign of terror after that.
Let's break this down one point at a time: (1) 0:29 The look on Venkman's face and his verbal response shows that he's not happy about a visit from the Environmental Protection Agency. Venkman is already worried, and has made up his mind that he will be extremely difficult to his visitor. (2) 0:59 "Can I help you?" You mention that Walter Peck doesn't respect Venkman's doctorate. Well, Venkman doesn't call Peck "sir" upon meeting him. Maybe not a big deal, yet in this context, neither is the fact that Venkman is a doctor. (3) 1:02 Venkman slimes Peck. Classy move. By the way, Venkman never asks to see Peck's identification, so that's on Venkman. Whether Peck is a scammer is a moot point at this stage. Venkman has accepted that Peck is from the Environmental Protection Agency and is dealing with him as such--and giving Peck absolutely no respect. (4) 1:13 Venkman's pretentious use of his title. (5) 1:47 "May I?" is a perfectly polite way of asking for something. One can say "May I please?", yet it's not necessary. Additionally, Venkman's "magic word" stuff is bullshit. Even when Peck asks please, Venkman answers Peck's question with a question and continues to be difficult. Let us remember as well that just moments ago, Venkman acted like a jerk to Janine when all she did was (gasp!) ask for a day off. I'm sure that one of the other Ghostbusters could have manned the phones for a couple of days. So again, Venkman's insistence on manners and etiquette is absolute bullshit. He's simply not that kind of person. It's established right from the first time that we see Venkman (extra sensory perception test) that he is an arsehole. Yet he's a funny arsehole, it's a movie, so we laugh at his nonsense. Yet Venkman and Peck don't know that they're in a movie, so we need to look at the conversation from that perspective. (6) 2:46 This scene confirms that Peck's visit was justified, even though Peck didn't know how badly the grid was holding up. Egon and Ray are clearly concerned. Either one of them would've handled the visit from Peck with much more tact than Venkman did. Peck's visit and Venkman's difficult nature are necessary to advance the story of the movie. Yet that doesn't mean that Peck was wrong and Venkman was right. You could argue that Peck was an overbearing bureaucrat, yet Venkman's bullshit would try anyone's patience. Peck has probably spent the last few weeks chasing down dodgy nuclear power plants backed by billionaires, now he is copping shit from a comparatively nickel-and-dime operation known as Ghostbusters. Peck probably wanted to be in and out in five minutes, yet Venkman was an arsehole. I say all this as someone who can't stand the government micromanaging things, but come on, Venkman's attitude here was total bullshit.
TheMightyThor83 Guess it shows how gung-ho our attitudes to things like workplace safety were in the 80s. In 1984, Peck was portrayed as a shitheel; an unhealthy obsessive of health and safety. Fast forward and more and more people are coming around to his point of view.
@@octobeard4946 Agreed. Being a retail worker during the Pandemic still ain't easy, and is kinda indicative of how we're essential to society. And I having said that, I really agree that people are coming to his point of view. Movies back then knew we were going to become adults soon, so that's why they last longer.
Its also a case of being so right you're wrong. He comes across as a bit of a fascist bully. Rules are great if its to protect people, they are less awesome if they're used to harass and bully people with your authority. Peck seemed like he was power tripping and Venkman hurt his ego.
@@MrMisanthrope84 I disagree. Peck came in and asked questions anyone in his position would be asking. Venkman was intentionally disrespectful and obnoxious. Later in the movie, when Peck returns with the police and a court order, Venkman is suddenly nice and offers to cooperate any way that he can. Peck tells him that he had his chance. Peck is right. Had Venkman showed Peck the storage facility, like any other business with possible toxic waste is required to, none of the issues later in the movie would have happened.
To be honest - the problem with the EPA could have been avoided if Peter HAD just let Peck see the storage facility and answer his questions. Being resistant and poking Peck in the eye (metaphorically speaking) caused the mini vendetta that followed because Peck was determined to "ruin" Peter and the GhostBusters. Looking at it from an outsider's perspective - Pete actually comes across the same as any who has a PHD - arrogant.
But we can also throw this back at Peck. Right away he was already questioning the credentials of Peter, and kept referring to him as “Mister” despite psychology being a genuine field. Oh and it didn’t help that Walter was being an ass about the whole thing. If he came in with a “look Dr. Venkman, I’m here because we’ve been receiving genuine concerns from the public and I need to check it out. Please work with me on this”, Peter might have been more cooperative.
People argued whether Peck or the EPA is Wrong, or that Venkman was a Big Jerk, but my real question is What would've happened had Venkman let Peck in, would it have made the situation better or worse?? Cause it can go in a multitude of ways, don't forget this is the real world plus the paranormal, 1 it ends the exact same way just faster, 2 it ends in a total disaster with everyone either being enslaved or dying, those are the 2 scenarios i could think of in the moment, but if you want to add more to it please feel free.
Best white male a-hole actors of the 80s: William Atherton, Paul Gleason, Dabney Coleman. From the 90s: J. T. Walsh, Bob Gunton, James Rebhorn, Timothy Carhart. Some of them have already died. Who can carry the torch for this stock character going forward??
Walter Peck is in the wrong. #1 he shouldn't even be investigating the Ghostbusters. If anything the nuclear regularity agency should be investigating the Ghostbusters since they all own unlicensed nuclear accelators.
Walter peck is not truly hardcore evil. He does have a good job. To protect the environment and people from hazards that could endanger them. But he takes his job too seriously and is corrupt with power and powertrips. And treats people without respect.
If Peter Venkman showed Walter Peck the storage then the whole crisis could have been averted. Yes Peck was being aggressive towards Peter, but Peter's resilient attitude towards Peck and refusing to let him take a look at the storage didn't make the situation any easier.
Walter Peck sure didn't sound polite calling Peter as Mr. Venkman instead of Dr. Venkman after Peter told him that he's Dr. Venkman. Plus, it didn't sound polite how he asked Peter what he was a doctor of instead of saying "what is your specialty in the doctorate field?"
Honestly, it's so easy to hate Peck here. Like, when you first meet him, you know right off the bat that this isn't business; this is personal. For some reason, whether it be jealousy or suspicion, Peck is only there to heckle them under the guise of being a concerned EPA rep. Plus, he takes it further by putting NYC in jeopardy by forcing them to suddenly shut the unit off, basically undoing all of their hard work and causing chaos in the process. And all for the sake of being right. As for what happened after the whole Debacle, I wonder if his workplace fired him for abusing his position and essentially dooming NYC to a series of Ghost hauntings (all of which was probably fixed by the GB later on).
No, it's his *job!* The Ghostbusters are catching ghosts. Their activities have been recorded by the media. They've been seen leaving buildings with ghost traps that are giving off large amounts of vapour or smoke. Slime has been left behind at sites where the Ghostbusters have caught ghosts. The same slime is all over Venkman when Peck meets him. Peck doesn't spend much time before asking Venkman where the caught ghosts are placed. Peck suspects that in some way or another, the Ghostbusters have an unlicensed storage facility--and he's right. Venkman knows that Peck is right, and pretends to know the law. Venkman is a smart-arse, wisecracking parapsychologist. Peck works for the Environmental Protection Agency, and has likely went after (and defeated) much bigger targets than the Ghostbusters. I guarantee you that Peck knows the law better than Venkman does. Venkman is just bluffing. Peck calls Venkman's bluff and has the hardhat shut down the storage facility. Now, did Peck do the right thing in having the facility shut down? No, yet why _would_ Peck believe the Ghostbusters after Venkman has been such an arsehole to him? I reckon if Peck had met Egon instead of Venkman on his first visit to the Ghostbusters, things would have went differently. Venkman is an arsehole, that's his character, he's horrendously unprofessional, not to mention a bit of a swindler (e.g. persuades Ray to sell the family home in order to start a business that has little chance of prospering). Venkman's stupid behaviour and Peck's resulting hostility are necessary to advance the story. Peck could have acted better, and yes, he does fabricate things without evidence (such as his belief that the Ghostbusters spray noxious gases in order to cause hallucinations in people). Yet that in no way excuses Venkman's awfully discourteous behaviour. Venkman is the most obnoxious character in the movie. Still, we might laugh at his jokes because they're funny, he's no danger to us, and it's a movie. Yet Venkman and Peck don't know that they're in a movie, so it's wholly understandable as to why Peck has no patience for Venkman. Fortunately, Venkman has three fellow Ghostbusters to rein him in when he goes too far.
I will then turn to the construction worker and ask why he is here? Construction worker: to shit down the Ghostbusters equipment! Me: really? That is not what it says in the court order speaking of which Mr Venkham (gets handed a counter claim) Me: Mr Peck the Ghostbusters are suing you for wrongful prosecution and the evidence I have they are going to win very easy. Walter Peck: what evidence? Me: the EPA are in the basement oh and here there! Walter Peck loses his job and left broke after the Ghostbusters sue him for every penny he owns
Peck is a great character, a true career man. Slimy, arrogant and will do anything in order to further his career.
He’s the kind of guy who stoops down to the levels of someone he hates, because he’s so stubborn.
He’s very petty
There are actually people like that in real life lol!
@@slingshotwarrrior8105 and it's a shame
The guy even took over the paranormal department of NY to further his career in the video game, so he’s a slime ball and a hypocrite
Bill Murray's delivery of, "Please" is so, so good. His look conveys utter shock that Peck lacks such common courtesy as to not know that "please" is the magic word.
I've heard that that line was improvised and that the guy who played Peck cracked up when he heard it.
Courtesy is something Peck is unfamiliar with as he thinks that just because he works for the government, he can just waltz into people’s places and make demands. He’s one of those guys when given a little power, let’s it go straight to his head.
I would have reacted the same way as Venkman, honestly.
@@CrowTRobot-ni7zu same
Please is about as magic as it gets.
I bloody love this film.
Whoever wrote the screenplay and the script is an absolute genius.
Co-stars Dan Aykroyd and the late great Harold Ramis. Goddamn geniuses!
In retrospect, I’m surprised that the activities of Ghostbusters only attracted the attention of the EPA. They’re driving all over New York, and carrying what are essentially nuclear weapons that could easily turn the entire city into a giant fireball if misused. You’d think that both the FBI and the NYPD would be busting their door down. Both of them would be very unhappy over the fact that the Ghostbusters are in possession of dangerous, unlicensed equipment that could potentially put the public at great risk.
I always wondered if the government would ever try to force the Ghostbusters to make military-grade weapons out of their equipment. It would make logical sense if that was their ultimatum if they were forced to answer for all these problems they were faced with, had it not been for Gozer's arrival.
I blame myself.
@@cbaile so do i!
Yeah if you think about it, they'd got off easy.
By Ghostbusters 2, Winston states they did at least get fined by nearly every possible local government body, so it's not like they got away with everything. True that it's insane they weren't further investigated by larger authorities, but this is in a universe with ghosts and nonbinary gods with demon dog servants, so who knows, maybe they're used to it.
Peck’s antagonising Peter right from the start. Speaking to him like he’s beneath him, not using his proper title despite concrete evidence of PhD’s on the wall... if he wants respect from people, Peck ought to respect them first.
Venkman intentionally slimed his hand and jacket the second they met.
@@chiefmac88 just a brilliant scene between two very talented performers
@@chiefmac88 I'd call that good instincts
@@chiefmac88 Yeah, Venkman disrespected the guy firstl
I 100% agree however in the reverse but yes overall you are right.
Both of the egos here were clashing hard.
Both of these men sizing each other up and Peck obviously had the first "Strategic Intel" over Peck while overhearing the conversation between the secretary and Vankmen.
He got a inkling of who he would be dealing with before meeting him.
However knowing Vankmen, even if Peck came with a cheerful and understanding attitude, Vankmen I feel would have always screwed himself with his Sarcasm and jokes.
He would have never let down his walls.
Maybe in the event of Peck being some kind of Investor than a EPA Agent, Vankmen would have been more forthcoming because money was now involved.
I find this interaction interesting because this dance of personalities people do is just fun to breakdown.
You can tell right away that these guys arent gonna be friends seeing how Peter immediatly puts slime on his hand and suit 😂
LOL. Such a great movie. 🎥
Peck probably thought it was sea-men
William Atherton is Incredible Actor He always play a Sadistic Jerk in every movie Like in the two Die Hard Films but as Walter Peck He’s very nosy And he’s their nemesis of the Ghostbusters
One of the epic 80's douchebags. Him, Paul Reiser in Aliens and Harry Ellis in Die Hard.
He's one of the worst human antagonists the Ghostbusters had.
He was the annoying reporter in die hard
I highly recommend Sugarland Express if you haven't seen it. He's great in that, too. Awesome movie.
Unfortunately after the movie, he was attacked in bars and had abuse shouted at him when he walked down the street by Ghostbuster fans who couldn’t tell fiction from reality.
2:42 - Peck when Burger King's the only place that'll hire him
😂
I love Ghostbusters play Ghostbusters from the empire that's not a good one I don't like it that much like I like the old style back in 1984 used to be a good day with Ghostbusters
Can they hold the pickles and the lettuce? 2:42
2:08 is the best part. I love how he's chuckling there.
Kathryn Gavin “Can I plea-he-he-he-se see the storage facility...?”
@M M ouch
@@lexkanyima2195 there's nothing to ouch about. That was a beyond accurate call on that character.
@@mikedemirdjian9976 he was provoked
Bill Murray's delivery of "Please" will always make laugh
I love that Janine, after working more or less continuously for two weeks, isn’t asking for a raise, just for Venkman to hire someone else so she can have a couple days off, and he basically says “You don’t like it, quit.”
This is a very pro-capitalist, meritocratic movie. I love it.
After all these years I am still noticing new things. I took my family to see this in theaters on October 30th 2021. Thankfully the kids liked it. But I never noticed @ 1:44 Jeane stick her head out like that lol. Seen this movie dozens of times. First time I noticed.
Damn I've seen this movie at least 50 times and never noticed that either.
Its funny he’s actually right. The containment unit failed multiple times in the ghostbusters series and nearly destroyed the city more then once.
Still, the first time it was his fault. They said if the containment were to be shut off suddenly that it would be a catastrophe. I get that that the Ghostbusters probably are using illegal equipment but they specifically told Peck not to turn it off. Plus I read a comment that Peck was overstepping his boundaries by forcing them to shut it off
And besides he was convinced that the Ghostbusters used hallucinogenic gas and a light show to scam people into believing ghosts so it's hard for me to justify his concerns
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey 😂😂😂 Peck thinks Ghostbusters are rip-off
I mean its either containment or demonic energies flooding the city. Its the only means they have to keep evil spirits from destroying the world. The big drawback is that all the ghosts get out if the containment fails, and it happens to have all the ghosts they catch. I think the solution is several locations to diffuse the total amounts and then work on finding a proper means of banishment. I dont think they found a way to do that though.
His actions are less about the nature of the EPA than about being "in charge."
I read somewhere that William atheraon got legit heat from people in real life because of this role lol
It is true and it is a year after the movie came out that he got heat
Very true
The drawback of nailing a part too well!
I wonder if he got lots of heat from his role in the first 2 Die Hard movies!
That guy plays an amazing prick!
I met William Antherton at a film convention back in 2014, really nice guy with time for his fans
I AM. SO JEALOUS.
Worrying part is in this day and age peck was actually being pretty reasonable. These days the ghostbusters wouldn't have a hope
lordsidious83 Can’t tell if that’s a good thing or a bad thing...
Did you just assume that ghost's identity! And so what if he's a ghost! Trapping ghosts is racist!
@@manictiger Ghosts need safe spaces
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable.
* They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
@@Ragitsu Exactly! Even the Ghostbusters knew that they were playing with fire. Egon says, before the Ghostbusters buy their headquarters, that the building should be condemned. Yet Ray loves the fire pole, so it's a sale. Later, in the hotel elevator, Venkman mentions that each Ghostbuster is carrying an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back. Venkman knows that the Ghostbusters business is extremely dangerous, he acknowledges the necessity of licences in their line of work, yet he is totally obnoxious when Walter Peck visits the headquarters. Venkman is a duplicitous jerk. I'm amazed that people think that Venkman is totally right and that Peck is totally wrong. The ability to think rationally is absent from many who watch this film.
When I was a kid, we had this movie taped from tv - it was a bowdlerized version with the swearing removed, which was lame, except for this scene. In the suitable-for-tv version, instead of getting up and yelling at Walter Peck, Venkman just stayed seated and calmly said "You go get the court order, and I'll sue your funny face for wrongful prosecution." The more restrained "you don't scare me" reaction actually felt more in keeping with the character than the outburst in the normal version of the movie.
I heard the actor who played Walter Peck after this movie came out, was constantly harassed by people wherever he went because they couldn’t separate him from the character he played in the movie. I guess that’s a sign of a brilliant actor and I will admit Walter Peck is one of the great villains, possibly underrated in cinema history.
If you needed a Giant Prick in your movie in the 80s, William Atherton was your go to guy!
No mention of Bill Murray playing a prick named Peter Venkman? Example: Venkman's awful treatment of Janine right before he meets Peck. Wouldn't even give Janine a day off, despite the fact that Ghostbusters is doing extremely well financially. Another example: the way that Venkman harasses that fellow taking the extra sensory perception test. Venkman is a jerk.
Pretty ironic since he’s like,,, known 2 b really chill
Vankman jokes often but when Egon talks about danger-he listens. He is quiet long enough to gauge if there's any way around the danger but he is always serious with Egon and Danger
Peter caught on if he let Peck see it, Peck would use it against them, listening to him talk Peter knew what Peck was up too.
Thank you so much for this!!! Been watching Ghostbusters recently to help better myself as a person. Instead of panicking and getting upset and flustered like I used to as well as always blaming the world. Been trying to go the Peter Venkman route with my personality. Lemme tell you it is working!!! and feeling less depressed and less stress going the Venkman route even at a horrible situation.
Psilord87 That’s great news. I’m happy to hear it’s working out for you.
Man I totally know what you mean. Thought the exact same thing myself.
Yes! I do this exact same thing. What would Pete Venkman do? That attitude has saved my life I'm sure.
Dude, that's amazing! Way to go! Ghostbusters ahs that neat effect on people, and I'm glad it works!
Please don't. Venkman is an arsehole. His character was written that way as a plot device. No Venkman The Arsehole, no clash with Walter Peck, no showdown with Gozer, no saving New York City. Additionally, Venkman's attitude would see him eventually killed if he were a real person, as opposed to a fictional character. Another thing to remember is that you're not Bill Murray. What might sound funny coming from Murray in an Ivan Reitman film might sound charmless when dealing with folks in everyday life. Being happy-go-lucky is one thing, yet that's not Venkman. He's rude, antagonistic, and treats his secretary like garbage. Please don't be like Venkman.
I love the way Janine Melnitz eavesdropping at @1:42 she was like, "what the fuck is this Peck is on to?"
Something that all of us who had this movie on VHS missed, with it not being in widescreen.
@@CrowTRobot-ni7zu I was just about to say that.
2:37 My favorite line from Peter in this scene.
In the TV version he said "funny face"
So glad Peck is back for Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire
And the actor who played Peck never lived this down.
I hate how the dumbest parts of the public harass good actors because they played a bad guy.
Yeah, the harassment he suffered after the movie was horrible. Hard to believe there are people who can’t differentiate fiction from reality.
Yeah i’m an aspiring actor and in drama school they made us aware about people who will think you’re whatever character you play smh
well it's his own fault, he's solidified himself when he took the slimy position in die hard!... and then again in die hard 2!
@@gezzarandom The same thing happened to the young actor that played King Joffrey on Game of Thrones. He was harassed and attacked so much that he quit acting altogether.
Last night, watching this movie all the way through for the first time in a long time, I actually found myself initially sympathizing with Peck, noticing how Peter disrespects him right from the start, and feeling like if Peter had just shown him the equipment, it all would have been resolved quite easily. But then later he switched to believing they were frauds, and it was like, "Oh. OK. Never mind, then."
Peck was super disrespectful right from the get go. First he questions Dr. Venkmans credentials and his degrees. Then after knowing that he has doctorate in psychology and parapsychology purposefully calls him Mr. instead of doctor. The only reason venkman was a smartass back was because he could see through pecks intentions. I mean for gods sake, Venkman has degrees in two distinct fields that have to deal with behavior, I’m sure it wasn’t hard for him to see through pecks bullshit from the beginning.
Jw Joshua, but does your car have a "Thin Blie Line" bumper sticker?
Because you seem well intentioned enough, but you completely mis-read the situation entirely.
@@cryptinflame4308 that's mind game of Peter
@@cryptinflame4308 I'm not sure if Peck really believes Venkman's credentials are genuine. I think he's already made up his mind that the whole Ghostbusters operation is a big scam.
@@SimonFostonPeck didn't send a note
Thank you! I was looking for the magic word bit :D
David McManus He’s such a great heel, Peck.
@AK Master please...
I always get a kick of how they cut right to a literal explanation of the twinkie. Like, there venkman, there's your answer!
The way he says " and what is the magic word,,,,,,,Mr,,,,,venkman "
Film gold. Can't be topped.
Walter Peck: And may I see this storage facility?
Me: Uh uh uh. You didn't say the magic word. Uh uh uh. Uh uh uh.
Bill Murray: No.
Walter Peck: And why not, Mr. Venkman?
Bill Murray: Because you did not use the magic word.
Walter Peck: What is the magic word, Mr. Venkman?
Bill Murray: 'Please'.
Towards the end, the more Walter Peck talks the more I don't like him. He has no right to threaten my best idol like that! Screw him!
🤣
I’m surprise he come back in frozen empire. I thought after having fight bars for being the character Peck. He wouldn’t ever come back.
I can't say I blame him.
Walter Peck's confrontation with Venkman is thought-provoking. Peck is doing the right job, in the worst possible way. Someone should be concerned with the environmental effects of an unlicenced ghost hunting business. That someone does not need to be so interested in the academic credentials of the company's CEO. A small man with a big title, Peck is not able to keep his act together. He is pursuing a grand goal of protecting the environment, and gets stuck in petty bickering over academic degrees. As a man with no personal authority, no gift of negotiation and no powers of persuasion, Peck can only keep reminding the Ghostbusters that the rules are on his side, no matter what he does, because he has a position in the bureaucratic hierarchy and the Ghostbusters are nothing in that hierarchy. That he must do at the top of his lungs.
The ability to confuse things and to turn the big into small and the small into big are essential traits of a modern bureaucracy. They are its very heart and soul. Such deep portrayals of a modern bureaucrat are seldom seen in movies.
No, it's more like he couldn't tell the difference between epa and ftc jurisdictions
To this very day Walter Peck is still trying to shut the Ghostbusters down.
A 40-year grudge
1:00 epa! EPA! EPA!!!!!
0:36. Before there was Squidward, there was Jeannie
You couldn't make the EPA the villians today
That's a good thing. We no longer live in the age of Reagan.
Shut up, Thornburg! 😂😂😂
Did Egon create the proton packs himself single-handedly or did he have help
I am slightly worried at how people seem to side with Peck over Venkman these days. Venkman remained cool and calm and Peck was petulant and power trippy, like this was the first time someone fought him back and his ego couldn't take it. He comes across as a fragile fascist type who can't withstand any pushback without losing his rag. Peck may have had a point but his attitude here is horrendous. So I'm still on Venkman's side. Peck stepped into Venkman's world thinking he'd own it and Venkman wrecked his ego. Is Peck really the kind of person people admire these days? Really? Is it any wonder why the world's so screwed?
I think you should actually listen to the arguments. The Ghostbusters are essentially carrying unlicensed nuclear energy sources on their backs. And they have destroyed city property. All Peck is saying is that the Ghostbusters need to take accountability for their actions
Granted, Peck is an asshole, but his argument still stands
@@warfare1101 I get the point. But Peck comes across as Lawful Evil, just sticking to rules because he enjoys it.
@@MrMisanthrope84 Yeah but the rules are rules. Yeah, he comes off as a prick but he's just doing his job
@@warfare1101 You can do your job without being a prick though. That's the point.
Yall need to hear him in the game slimer runs away and he's just like "no. wait. come back."
Highly appropriate surname that Mr Walter Peck has.
In the video game, Egon's like "just call him 'Peck'."
I actually crack up during this scene I don't know why but venkman just cracked me up in the scene cuz you did not use the magic word and you go get a court order just the way he said it just makes me hysterical
I think we can all agree peck was a solid dude. An all around stand up guy
2:08 William Atherton definitely looks like he's breaking character
Nah it's consistent with the character. Peck was chuckling -- in a patronizing way, of course -- to Venkman's ridiculous request to say "please."
It’s like Peck’s saying, “Show me the storage facility, Venkman! That’s an order!” and Venkman's responding with, "Nobody comes into MY office and tells me what to do!"
"I represent the EPA, the third district".
There is no 3rd District of the EPA.
The EPA is divided into regions; New York is in Region 2.
Peck also threatens to come back with a court order but the implication is that it's to force the Ghostbusters to let the EPA look for hazardous chemicals, and instead he comes back with a cease and desist order (which he doesn't actually let anyone see). This implies he actually lied to the judge about what was going on with the Ghostbusters, or that he's lying about what his supposed "cease and desist order" actually says. He later invokes the Environmental Protection Act and claims the Ghostbusters are in violation of it, but no such Act actually exists.
Peck seems legit on the surface, but he's actually a really shady character.
Still my personal fav character of the series.
That's what makes him a big liar.
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable.
* They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
@@Ragitsu That isn't his stance at all though. He thinks they are con artists, and he doesn't think any of their equipment is legitimate.
@@jonathancampbell5231 Even so...
I kept thinking about this exchange, and as an older man now I picked up on all the subtle disrespect shown on both sides.
Dr. Venkman rubbing slime on his suit and taking the friendly tone, and Peck kept calling him Mr. Venkman, jabbing at his bona fides.
But recently, I didn't see Janine being nosy in the background until now.
The first Ghostbusters was filled with great little moments like this.
3:25-3:28:
Ernie Hudson as Winston: Tell him about Bob.
Bill Murray as Peter: What About Bob?
(Bill Murray who played as Bob Wiley on the movie "What About Bob?")
That's a big Twinkie
Good ",Ghostbusters" scehe with William Atherton and bill Murray.
I say "That's a big twinkie" out of context all the time as a response to confused recipients.
The EPA would send a notice of violation before actually sending someone on site, they're too lazy to bother when it's such a small operation.
It might be that official notice came and was discarded for whatever reason. Movie doesn't really handle this plot-line well. Fact Peck shows up personally means someone has already blundered big time.
Never mind Walter Peck and the EPA. What was going on at their facility would have attracted the attention of the Fire Marshall along with every code inspector in the city.
Even though Walter Peck was the most hated charater. I found it kinda of sad that William Aouthron the actor who played Peck wasn't in afterlife.
To be fair I don’t think Afterlife needed a visit from the EPA representative in NYC
It was tough
He is 100% in the next film. Ghostbusters frozen empire. Thr trailer looks awesome
Even if Peck was right in his concerns, he didn't do a proper investigation. When he got a warrant, he just ordered a technician to shut off the machine without investigating anything. The technician was reluctant since he didn't know what it was.
This is how I should deal with scammers who call me
How ?
@@lexkanyima2195 how peter dealt with peck
Is the secret world still the same Bill Murray 🫡
Walter Peck my personal fav.
I thought it might be 😉
If I was a lawyer representing the Ghostbusters I would ask Peck to look at the court order and after reading it say to him where is the group of scientists wearing haz mat suits? You are investigating dangerous and nocturnal gases in the basement which will require scientists trained to look for such gases so where are they Mr Peck?
GB2 would have been a much better movie if peck was in it!
One of my favourite parts of this scene is Janine poking her head round to see what's going on at 1:40
Lol I answered the phone like :58 at work once I got laughed at lmao
On a dare as a kid after watching this film I called the local National Education Center and asked if they had a class on ghostbusting
Conservatives: Hollywood has a liberal agenda
Beloved Hollywood classic "Hi, I'm with the *Environmental Protection Agency* and I'm the villain in this movie"
It does have a leftist agenda. Wasn't always this way. They used to make movies purely for entertainment. Remember the 2016 Ghostbusters? I rest my case.
Peck did goof up, but that's because someone had a hard-on for casting the EPA in a negative light. Otherwise, his stance that the Ghostbusters have to be held accountable for their actions* is entirely reasonable.
* They use equipment that could vaporize all of NYC, by the way.
@@Ragitsu
To be fair, the god they were combatting was going to do much worse than vaporize a city.
@@manictiger In reality, if a business from out of nowhere is found out to be using *nuclear reactors* (and on a regular basis, too), you can bet someone is going to step in to shut them down and/or arrest them.
Ragitsu Yeah the department of energy even back in the 1980s would have had venkman in a paddywagon before the second act.
For anybody who says Venkman could have prevented Peck ruining everything by showing him the premises: A) Peck already showed signs of being a jerk by not respecting his doctorate and B) He didn't showed Venkman any credentials, so he had no reason to believe he was actually a goverment agent and not a scammer.
Well explained
Yup. A real inspector would be filling out a checklist and would be focused on that specifically. "Do you catch ghosts?" is not relevant to "Do you have chemicals classified as toxic, corrosive, ignitable, or reactive?" or "What are your storage/disposal protocols for those chemicals?". A guy in a suit asking vague, science-y questions and immediately resorting to threats is a con man.
@@nomisunrider6472Peck wants to ruin them,
@@nomisunrider6472 Those were just small potatoes. The Ghostbusters would have been targeted by the FBI and potentially the CIA for having PROTONIC technology. So maybe Peck was actually a dyed-in-the-wool federal agent masquerading as a more humble EPA guy, but I think the Ghostbusters being swatted long before that moment would have been realistic lol.
And even this is small potatoes. After all, Gozer had come into our realm and our world was about to be destroyed anyway, to speak nothing of Vigo the Carpathian's resurrection and new reign of terror after that.
Let's break this down one point at a time:
(1) 0:29 The look on Venkman's face and his verbal response shows that he's not happy about a visit from the Environmental Protection Agency. Venkman is already worried, and has made up his mind that he will be extremely difficult to his visitor.
(2) 0:59 "Can I help you?" You mention that Walter Peck doesn't respect Venkman's doctorate. Well, Venkman doesn't call Peck "sir" upon meeting him. Maybe not a big deal, yet in this context, neither is the fact that Venkman is a doctor.
(3) 1:02 Venkman slimes Peck. Classy move. By the way, Venkman never asks to see Peck's identification, so that's on Venkman. Whether Peck is a scammer is a moot point at this stage. Venkman has accepted that Peck is from the Environmental Protection Agency and is dealing with him as such--and giving Peck absolutely no respect.
(4) 1:13 Venkman's pretentious use of his title.
(5) 1:47 "May I?" is a perfectly polite way of asking for something. One can say "May I please?", yet it's not necessary. Additionally, Venkman's "magic word" stuff is bullshit. Even when Peck asks please, Venkman answers Peck's question with a question and continues to be difficult. Let us remember as well that just moments ago, Venkman acted like a jerk to Janine when all she did was (gasp!) ask for a day off. I'm sure that one of the other Ghostbusters could have manned the phones for a couple of days. So again, Venkman's insistence on manners and etiquette is absolute bullshit. He's simply not that kind of person. It's established right from the first time that we see Venkman (extra sensory perception test) that he is an arsehole. Yet he's a funny arsehole, it's a movie, so we laugh at his nonsense. Yet Venkman and Peck don't know that they're in a movie, so we need to look at the conversation from that perspective.
(6) 2:46 This scene confirms that Peck's visit was justified, even though Peck didn't know how badly the grid was holding up. Egon and Ray are clearly concerned. Either one of them would've handled the visit from Peck with much more tact than Venkman did.
Peck's visit and Venkman's difficult nature are necessary to advance the story of the movie. Yet that doesn't mean that Peck was wrong and Venkman was right. You could argue that Peck was an overbearing bureaucrat, yet Venkman's bullshit would try anyone's patience. Peck has probably spent the last few weeks chasing down dodgy nuclear power plants backed by billionaires, now he is copping shit from a comparatively nickel-and-dime operation known as Ghostbusters. Peck probably wanted to be in and out in five minutes, yet Venkman was an arsehole.
I say all this as someone who can't stand the government micromanaging things, but come on, Venkman's attitude here was total bullshit.
To me WALTER PECK is banned GHOSTBUSTERS headquarters in the first place.
3:25 ¿habla Español? Hecho en mexico!
I would’ve been a lot more polite, professional, and cooperative if I was in Venkman’s position.
He was the real villain. Not Gozer.
Funny all this analysis its just a movie people! They needed the scene to set the climax for the movie!
To Pecks defense, what were they planning on doing with those ghosts when the storage facility was full?
Make another storage facility?
i don't think the GB were planning on being as busy as they were. They didn't find out about Gozer and its minions until way later.
Walter Peck is 100% right
TheMightyThor83 Guess it shows how gung-ho our attitudes to things like workplace safety were in the 80s. In 1984, Peck was portrayed as a shitheel; an unhealthy obsessive of health and safety. Fast forward and more and more people are coming around to his point of view.
@@octobeard4946 Agreed. Being a retail worker during the Pandemic still ain't easy, and is kinda indicative of how we're essential to society. And I having said that, I really agree that people are coming to his point of view. Movies back then knew we were going to become adults soon, so that's why they last longer.
@@octobeard4946 no he's a liberal piece of shit responsible for LED lighting replacing true rigid highway lighting
Its also a case of being so right you're wrong. He comes across as a bit of a fascist bully. Rules are great if its to protect people, they are less awesome if they're used to harass and bully people with your authority. Peck seemed like he was power tripping and Venkman hurt his ego.
@@MrMisanthrope84 I disagree. Peck came in and asked questions anyone in his position would be asking. Venkman was intentionally disrespectful and obnoxious. Later in the movie, when Peck returns with the police and a court order, Venkman is suddenly nice and offers to cooperate any way that he can. Peck tells him that he had his chance. Peck is right. Had Venkman showed Peck the storage facility, like any other business with possible toxic waste is required to, none of the issues later in the movie would have happened.
3:11
To be honest - the problem with the EPA could have been avoided if Peter HAD just let Peck see the storage facility and answer his questions. Being resistant and poking Peck in the eye (metaphorically speaking) caused the mini vendetta that followed because Peck was determined to "ruin" Peter and the GhostBusters. Looking at it from an outsider's perspective - Pete actually comes across the same as any who has a PHD - arrogant.
I doubt it would have ended there. That would have led to more questions and demands
But we can also throw this back at Peck. Right away he was already questioning the credentials of Peter, and kept referring to him as “Mister” despite psychology being a genuine field.
Oh and it didn’t help that Walter was being an ass about the whole thing. If he came in with a “look Dr. Venkman, I’m here because we’ve been receiving genuine concerns from the public and I need to check it out. Please work with me on this”, Peter might have been more cooperative.
Albert from "Quints" was like a children's version of Peck. Of, course, they're both jerks!
People argued whether Peck or the EPA is Wrong, or that Venkman was a Big Jerk, but my real question is What would've happened had Venkman let Peck in, would it have made the situation better or worse?? Cause it can go in a multitude of ways, don't forget this is the real world plus the paranormal, 1 it ends the exact same way just faster, 2 it ends in a total disaster with everyone either being enslaved or dying, those are the 2 scenarios i could think of in the moment, but if you want to add more to it please feel free.
Best white male a-hole actors of the 80s: William Atherton, Paul Gleason, Dabney Coleman. From the 90s: J. T. Walsh, Bob Gunton, James Rebhorn, Timothy Carhart. Some of them have already died. Who can carry the torch for this stock character going forward??
Seems you have a problem with white males.
Walter Peck is in the wrong. #1 he shouldn't even be investigating the Ghostbusters. If anything the nuclear regularity agency should be investigating the Ghostbusters since they all own unlicensed nuclear accelators.
I come here because of Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
Revenge
Peck kinda looks like Edge (WWE).
I WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO HERE
This guy would be the future mayor of New York
Walter peck is not truly hardcore evil. He does have a good job. To protect the environment and people from hazards that could endanger them. But he takes his job too seriously and is corrupt with power and powertrips. And treats people without respect.
While Peck is portrayed this way in the movie, the EPA is vital.
Has that guy ever played a character who wasn’t a total ass? Did the same mentality in the Die Hard movies too…
May I please...see the storage facility, Mr Venkman?
He's a doctor, doof.
Doctor bankman shows sarcastic guts the way he talks to Walter peck.
Peter playing mindset with good reasons.
@@lexkanyima2195 oh yeh. They’re enemies right from the geco
@@doublec3 Peter knows people
@@lexkanyima2195 his sarcasm towards Walter peck is the best. You can tell bill Murray is not sincere when he shows up in his office.
@@doublec3 out of nowhere
Where does one get a PhD in parapsychology?
Rep tie with a tie bar and a Phi Beta Kappa pin.
Tell you all you need to know.
In my teens and 20s: Yeah go Venkman! In my 40s: Yeah go Peck!
I'm still team Venkman, Peck was dickless
@@Surfer041 me too team dr.venkman walter is dick head
Fuck you "bro"-hating joke to your "bro"-saying Latins who would hate you
@@robjackson5245 I don't like walter peck cuckoo for coco puffs
@@stevencarter8801 Peck is every white liberal "Friends"-watching "bro"-hating environmentalist asshole who wants to change every lighting with LED.
If Peter Venkman showed Walter Peck the storage then the whole crisis could have been averted. Yes Peck was being aggressive towards Peter, but Peter's resilient attitude towards Peck and refusing to let him take a look at the storage didn't make the situation any easier.
But Peck was disrespecting Peter
@@lexkanyima2195 well he got aggressive with Peter and threatened him when Peter refused to show him the storage facility.
@@jamesreed2366 because Peter knew he was playing mind games
@@lexkanyima2195 still Peter was making it worse by refusing to let Walter Peck at least have a look.
@@jamesreed2366 but why ? There is no illegal job by The Ghostbusters
I wish Peck would've become a true believer by the end and been grateful for the Ghostbusters.
But it is not
Walter Peck sure didn't sound polite calling Peter as Mr. Venkman instead of Dr. Venkman after Peter told him that he's Dr. Venkman. Plus, it didn't sound polite how he asked Peter what he was a doctor of instead of saying "what is your specialty in the doctorate field?"
William could play Sigmund Freud in a movie...he would just have to grow another beard.
I heard that the actor who played Peck got into a fight with someone in a bar because of how unlikable he was.
Honestly, it's so easy to hate Peck here. Like, when you first meet him, you know right off the bat that this isn't business; this is personal. For some reason, whether it be jealousy or suspicion, Peck is only there to heckle them under the guise of being a concerned EPA rep. Plus, he takes it further by putting NYC in jeopardy by forcing them to suddenly shut the unit off, basically undoing all of their hard work and causing chaos in the process. And all for the sake of being right. As for what happened after the whole Debacle, I wonder if his workplace fired him for abusing his position and essentially dooming NYC to a series of Ghost hauntings (all of which was probably fixed by the GB later on).
Peck had no reason to be there
No, it's his *job!* The Ghostbusters are catching ghosts. Their activities have been recorded by the media. They've been seen leaving buildings with ghost traps that are giving off large amounts of vapour or smoke. Slime has been left behind at sites where the Ghostbusters have caught ghosts. The same slime is all over Venkman when Peck meets him. Peck doesn't spend much time before asking Venkman where the caught ghosts are placed. Peck suspects that in some way or another, the Ghostbusters have an unlicensed storage facility--and he's right. Venkman knows that Peck is right, and pretends to know the law. Venkman is a smart-arse, wisecracking parapsychologist. Peck works for the Environmental Protection Agency, and has likely went after (and defeated) much bigger targets than the Ghostbusters. I guarantee you that Peck knows the law better than Venkman does. Venkman is just bluffing. Peck calls Venkman's bluff and has the hardhat shut down the storage facility.
Now, did Peck do the right thing in having the facility shut down? No, yet why _would_ Peck believe the Ghostbusters after Venkman has been such an arsehole to him? I reckon if Peck had met Egon instead of Venkman on his first visit to the Ghostbusters, things would have went differently. Venkman is an arsehole, that's his character, he's horrendously unprofessional, not to mention a bit of a swindler (e.g. persuades Ray to sell the family home in order to start a business that has little chance of prospering). Venkman's stupid behaviour and Peck's resulting hostility are necessary to advance the story. Peck could have acted better, and yes, he does fabricate things without evidence (such as his belief that the Ghostbusters spray noxious gases in order to cause hallucinations in people). Yet that in no way excuses Venkman's awfully discourteous behaviour.
Venkman is the most obnoxious character in the movie. Still, we might laugh at his jokes because they're funny, he's no danger to us, and it's a movie. Yet Venkman and Peck don't know that they're in a movie, so it's wholly understandable as to why Peck has no patience for Venkman. Fortunately, Venkman has three fellow Ghostbusters to rein him in when he goes too far.
@@markv1274 even with Egon with be the same
The part that makes me hate him more, is that he’s right
I will then turn to the construction worker and ask why he is here? Construction worker: to shit down the Ghostbusters equipment! Me: really? That is not what it says in the court order speaking of which Mr Venkham (gets handed a counter claim) Me: Mr Peck the Ghostbusters are suing you for wrongful prosecution and the evidence I have they are going to win very easy. Walter Peck: what evidence? Me: the EPA are in the basement oh and here there! Walter Peck loses his job and left broke after the Ghostbusters sue him for every penny he owns
“Wrongful prosecution” is an absolutely impossible legal claim to win.
In The Ghostbuster International comics he became their allies
Walter peck is a bully