Predicting Bond Angles

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  • @jianghaoyoutube5017
    @jianghaoyoutube5017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    THIS IS THE METHOD FOR CALCULATION BOND ANGLES.
    Doesn't work for all molecules but...
    Every lone you have, subtract 2.5° degree from 109.5°.
    Eg. H2O (H=O=H)
    Oxygen has two long pairs. Subtract 5° from 109.5°=104.5°
    (109.5° is the bond angle of tetrahedral shape molecule)

    • @fortuneless
      @fortuneless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      but PH3 has only 1 lone pair
      if i substract 2.5° from 109.5° i get 107°.
      but the bond angle of PH3 is supposed to be 93.6°
      my exams are in like 3 hours.

    • @Mr-E.
      @Mr-E. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@fortuneless Interesting - is PH3 maybe an exception but otherwise Jianghao's method works?

    • @jianghaoyoutube5017
      @jianghaoyoutube5017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fortuneless sorry for late reply. The method I used probably only work on certain molecules or compound. It was taught in my A level (highschool) text books.

    • @fortuneless
      @fortuneless 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@jianghaoyoutube5017 bruh i passed got 20 out of 30 (answered 21)

    • @TitanTubs
      @TitanTubs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How does that work with the example at 1:30 .. the bond angle is 120°. doesn't work with trigonal planar.

  • @mattNYSD
    @mattNYSD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    An explanation as to why the NH3 and CH3CN molecules have the bond angle they do would be far more helpful here, rather than just trying to memorize them.

    • @meghang9517
      @meghang9517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      im not sure if this will help but it’s basically to make room for the lone pair of electrons

    • @meghang9517
      @meghang9517 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it’s almost like in NH3 there are 4 areas of electron density but because there are three bonds and one lone pair it is pyramidal with a diff bond angle

    • @valentai_777
      @valentai_777 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meghang9517whatever the fuck that means

    • @makaylabrynn3252
      @makaylabrynn3252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lone pairs will make the bond angle smaller. The more lone pairs, the smaller the angle.

  • @i_am_gods_child
    @i_am_gods_child 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    for the people asking, yeah you do have to memorise them (for this level of chemistry anyway) - the 3D structure of the molecule if it has X number of bonding pair electrons and Y number of lone pairs around the central atom (when you draw out the Lewis structure), and what will the angles be, and what do we call that structure (trigonal pyramidal, trigonal planar etc...)
    Its about how much electrons repel eachother, and lone pairs will have a higher density so sorta 'squash' the bond angle more. I'm sure there is a good video about it somewhere! :)

    • @imstillaj
      @imstillaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'll pretend i understood that

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      @nafisaanjoom3021 2 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @HydrogenTwoO
    @HydrogenTwoO ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last semester I watched your VSEPR theory videos over and over. It took me a while to understand this. I'm studying for the 2nd semester of O chem, and I got to this video without any issues, and THROUGH this video understanding and predicting correctly! You are an incredible teacher.

  • @ch1namaan
    @ch1namaan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    How is this useful... He's not telling us how to find the bond angles, he's only telling us what the bond angles are.

    • @zannysquad8546
      @zannysquad8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      honestly yes. this is just memorization

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      @erikar6401 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m so confused rn

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      @anthonytakouam4324 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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      @G.Osancity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you pass?

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  • @blahblah6123
    @blahblah6123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    i still dont get it ..

    • @jianghaoyoutube5017
      @jianghaoyoutube5017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You can calculate it. Every lone you have, subtract 2.5° degree from 109.5°.
      Eg. H2O (H=O=H)
      Oxygen has two long pairs. Subtract 5° from 109.5°=104.5°
      (109.5° is the bond angle of tetrahedral shape molecule)

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    • @zannysquad8546
      @zannysquad8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@notWaldont it doesn't really work for everthing. only tetrahedrals

    • @sonalgramopadhye2761
      @sonalgramopadhye2761 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jianghaoyoutube5017 does that only work for tetrahedral compounds?

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    I like the little tips you put in the explanation

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  • @rogersowden2369
    @rogersowden2369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yeah but how do u calculate the angle? Or do you just memorize it?

    • @mashuknabi2298
      @mashuknabi2298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Memorization

    • @jianghaoyoutube5017
      @jianghaoyoutube5017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You can calculate it. Every lone you have, subtract 2.5° degree from 109.5°.
      Eg. H2O (H=O=H)
      Oxygen has two long pairs. Subtract 5° from 109.5°=104.5°
      (109.5° is the bond angle of tetrahedral shape molecule)

    • @rogersowden2369
      @rogersowden2369 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jianghao TH-cam
      But why 2.5 and why do you minus it?

    • @jianghaoyoutube5017
      @jianghaoyoutube5017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rogersowden2369 idk but I was thought in school 😂

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    @Travelingsurgeon116 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @Omkorecr03
    @Omkorecr03 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In H2O eg why u took 2H downward and why not in a straight line which makes an angle 180??

    • @Hanna-gr5mv
      @Hanna-gr5mv 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because The lone pairs push the hydrogen down ward

    • @static4802
      @static4802 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Hanna-gr5mv Do the lone pair electrons in Oxygen's valence shell repulse the bond pair electrons that are covalently bonded with Hydrogen?

    • @emilyleighton2984
      @emilyleighton2984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abrar Mahadik yes

    • @bryanchavez1362
      @bryanchavez1362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Skull_ Brawl Stars electron repulsion pushes bonded pairs away from the lone pairs

    • @ChemistryRRR
      @ChemistryRRR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hybridization of of Water Molecule is Sp3 and u know the concept of VSEPR Theory ,
      Lone pair- lone pair- repulsion> lone pair- bond pair repulsion > bond pair- bond pair repulsion.
      So , oxygen having two lone pair in water molecule that's why bond angle of H2O is 104°

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  • @prelanreiss80
    @prelanreiss80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does NH3 and PH3 and AsH3 bond angles the same

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    @fg45zaza22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @vihanya.
    @vihanya. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guys, we have to memorise these bond angles.

  • @TanakaChonyera
    @TanakaChonyera 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Is Mark Wahlberg doing the voice over?

  • @caroline-pm4mo
    @caroline-pm4mo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what grade do you learn this?

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    @emmanuelonyedire8785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice❤ keep it up

  • @imtypingwords
    @imtypingwords 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    But how do we know they are those angles? Like, is this just a theory? Did someone measure the angle? What experiment proves these angles? How do we verify said angles? I'm not in college or know much about chemistry but I question how any of this is known when we can't when see these things.

    • @prismaticerror6911
      @prismaticerror6911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a theory, meaning it's the closest thing to truth the universe has. We actually can see atoms using special microscopes. For measuring charges and shit I recommend looking it up online, there are tons of experiments that go into things like this

  • @ronin6158
    @ronin6158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wouldnt the much larger O push the H's around further on the plane? ie: make the H's closer.

  • @fredt8167
    @fredt8167 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know the lone pair electrons are involved in determining the shape but how do you know... how the lone pairs will react with the other atoms that are bonded to predict its shape?

    • @zannysquad8546
      @zannysquad8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      most atoms will have 8 electrons around it (octet rule)

    • @nurulsolehah6801
      @nurulsolehah6801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The lone pairs will repel the electrons in the bonds with the other atoms. Thus, have smaller angles than a molecule with the same number of bonded pair...if you get what I mean. Hope it helps.

  • @mandyogoe7315
    @mandyogoe7315 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you know how much bonds the atoms like to form?

    • @insidethebox2470
      @insidethebox2470 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How many electrons it needs to become stable

  • @blakeknight12387
    @blakeknight12387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was not helpful at ALL. You just listed the angles but didn't explain how to get them. WHYYY?

    • @zannysquad8546
      @zannysquad8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol fr

    • @rohanbarde5958
      @rohanbarde5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think there is a specific method to find bond angles, it all depends upon hybridisation and no. of lone pairs and bond pairs !!! U can predict some but mostly memorization!!

  • @jannellezamora5084
    @jannellezamora5084 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    why isnt it 90 degress for the HcH ?

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    @internois8181 5 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @SadamFlu
    @SadamFlu 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    huh 109°? why not 90°? is that because the bonding is in a pyramid shape?

    • @krathish01
      @krathish01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because carbon assumes a Tetrahedral shape when attached to 4

    • @Maryam-go3yq
      @Maryam-go3yq 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krathish01 but it looks more like 90°

    • @wiez543
      @wiez543 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The bond angle in a tetrahedron is 109°. You get this when placing the four surrounding atoms as far apart as you can in three dimensions.

    • @phabidz
      @phabidz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Maryam-go3yq .

  • @lucerojimenez242
    @lucerojimenez242 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the angles for C3H803?

    • @smartscience5305
      @smartscience5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am twelve years old and i solve it
      OH
      |
      HO\/\/OH

    • @smartscience5305
      @smartscience5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glycerine Glossary of C3H8o3

    • @smartscience5305
      @smartscience5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am twelve years old and i solve it:
      OH
      |
      HO\/\/OH

  • @arohisharma3335
    @arohisharma3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @ZestyGecko7
    @ZestyGecko7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    QUESTION - How would I know if a molecule is bent? Thanks :)

    • @vishweshpande7271
      @vishweshpande7271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its mostly due to lone pair repulsion, look for lone pairs.

  • @sohatsharma2004
    @sohatsharma2004 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    why is the second one linear molecular shap. Isnt the molecular shape bent and tetrahedral.

    • @sammadsaeed3373
      @sammadsaeed3373 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope the second one has 2 bonding pairs and no lone pairs. Remember those 3 bonds N made with C we count that as 1 in bond angles! But there is no lone pair as carbon is making 4 bonds. So the central carbon makes 1 with the other carbon and makes the rest with nitrogen. It is like this C-C---N ( 3 lines are the 3 bonds). This is linear. Bent has a 120 degree angle if there are 2 bonding pairs and 1 lone pair or of there are 2 bonding pairs and 2 lone pairs!

  • @drumstick6610
    @drumstick6610 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which fucking angle is it tho?? For ammonia for example,is it the n to h or h to h.like what's 107

  • @smartscience5305
    @smartscience5305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am twelve year old and i solve it:
    Glycerine Glossary of C3H8O3;
    OH
    |
    HO\/\/OH

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      @kyle-tg7bi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @yasamanhudson328
    @yasamanhudson328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ch2o = 120 not true . in real , the angle is 122 cause of the double bond between C and O ( 122 , 116 , 122)

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    @thuwailibailm6251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:42

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