Resonance Structures

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  • @AryanJafri-j6t
    @AryanJafri-j6t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:53 - My professor said the most electronegative atom should have the negative charge as it is more stable, and if I am not wrong Oxygen is more electronegative than Sulfur so why is the negative charge placed on the Sulfur atom.

    • @karinacerda3022
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      I agree. I’d rather listen to my professor ngl

    • @alialgharrawi5033
      @alialgharrawi5033 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is because sulfur is bigger than oxygen. It is one of the few exceptions.

    • @spaceodyssey9788
      @spaceodyssey9788 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When going down ie top to bottom of periodic table we depend on size factor. So here, Sulphur is bigger in size than oxygen and so a negative charge on it would be more stable. (If you go period wise in periodic table ie horizontally then electronegativity is a factor which helps in comparing. )

    • @praneethalva7776
      @praneethalva7776 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The sulphur atom has vacant d orbitals within which the electron can move freely , thus causing stability of the negative charge over it

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  • @safa-uc1mk
    @safa-uc1mk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    3:33 can someone pls explan why 3 tertiary is most stable here ?

    • @anthonycoelho6930
      @anthonycoelho6930 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The electron donating R groups (in this case methyls but think of all alkyl groups as electron donating) stabilize the positive charge on the carbon. The greater the substitution, the more stable the carbocation.

    • @notrandom6653
      @notrandom6653 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is because of another effect called hyperconjugation(refer any other videos if you want to know more,its basically a no bond resonance) and hyper conjugation depends on the number of alpha hydrogens,i.e,hydrogen attached to sp³ hybridised carbon near to the charge.More the number of alpha hydrgen more stable the carbocation

  • @akshayanilkawale5970
    @akshayanilkawale5970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

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  • @Lpslocket
    @Lpslocket 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @georgiconlon3811
    @georgiconlon3811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    @9:37 oxygen is more electron neg than sulfur, so wouldn't the major contributor be the structure where the neg charge is on the oxygen, not sulfur...?

    • @anikethpai9442
      @anikethpai9442 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Electronegativity is the tendency to attract shared pair of electrons to itself. Oxygen is an acceptor, not a contributor.

    • @sumitraturi7791
      @sumitraturi7791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sulphur has larges size

    • @winterflower4530
      @winterflower4530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I did a little more research behind this cuz I was thinking the same thing- it turns out that even though oxygen is more electronegative than sulfur, sulfur is much larger due to periodic trends. This large size allows it to spread out the negative charge better making it more STABLE. I think the key is to think which atom is more stable with the negative charge, not which atom is more likely to have the negative charge. In other words, when comparing elements in the SAME COLUMN (like O and S) look at its ability to stabilize the charge rather than just electronegativity - the greater the size of the atom, the more stable it will be with the charge. On the other hand, when looking at elements in the SAME ROW (ex. C vs O) you can just use your electronegativity trends cuz elements in the same row are roughly the same size- hope this helped :)

    • @sumitraturi7791
      @sumitraturi7791 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@winterflower4530 yes

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      @allisonacosta4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @BrianErwin
    @BrianErwin ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:19 it's because 2s2 is closer to the nucleus than 2p2, and the more s-character, the more stable.. bigger atoms have more s-character

    • @aishikiray5627
      @aishikiray5627 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hi, i know i'm late, but i really hope you see this. 'bigger atoms have more s-character'- is that because sulphur has 3s subshell while oxygen doesn't?

  • @LeylaGonzalezz
    @LeylaGonzalezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    how can you determine if it's primary, secondary, or tertiary?

    • @chase1064
      @chase1064 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      A Carbon that is bonded to a single Carbon is primary. A Carbon that is bonded to two Carbons is secondary, and a carbon bonded to three is tertiary.

    • @frohan007
      @frohan007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@chase1064 specifically the carbon with the + charge i think

    • @parultidkae4924
      @parultidkae4924 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      it is depended on number of Carbon atoms it's surrounded by, if it is surrounded by 1-C atom, then it's primary, if it's surrounded by 2-C atoms then it's secondary and if it's surrounded by 3-C atoms then it's tertiary. thankyou have a beautiful day

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  • @smoky_ved8906
    @smoky_ved8906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    For those of u who r studying, tertiary carbocation is the most stable carbocation

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  • @4xking
    @4xking 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why isn’t the bottom left at 6:05 tertiary?

  • @TheThorRs
    @TheThorRs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:47 why is the positive charge there? isn't there 4 bonds at that corner so the formal charge is 0? I'm assuming hydrogen is there

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  • @jennie1316
    @jennie1316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    i hate resonance its been watching hours of videos and i still dont get it

    • @Vatzaa
      @Vatzaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Same here dude! Hope you got it now tho, pls help 😭🙏

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  • @gbolagadeolajide8595
    @gbolagadeolajide8595 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    excellent explanation! thank you!

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  • @GeorgeCronigen
    @GeorgeCronigen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What happened to 10:53 oxygen makes three bonds?

  • @malenahlewis8610
    @malenahlewis8610 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How are we deciding which number to rank the structures? What are we basing it off of?

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    thanks, I learned stuff

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  • @ayushrajput6354
    @ayushrajput6354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please some questions on resonance

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  • @safa-uc1mk
    @safa-uc1mk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:04 how do we tell if something is secondary or primary?

    • @mariah-ql3qv
      @mariah-ql3qv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tertiary is liked to 3 carbons, secondary 2 carbons and primary 1 carbon

    • @tobealonewithyou
      @tobealonewithyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@mariah-ql3qv in the same structure i think there is one more possibility of resonance structure . Correct me if im wrong

  • @CBH_
    @CBH_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m waiting for this.

  • @AyanokoujiWannabe
    @AyanokoujiWannabe ปีที่แล้ว

    9:35 can it be explained as fajan'd rule?

  • @taksuyama
    @taksuyama ปีที่แล้ว

    Due to breaking of aromaticity, the “primary” cationic structure is the major resonance contributor for the benzylic cation

    • @wouthelsen4931
      @wouthelsen4931 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was thinking this 2

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    @ليناالصادقالعالمالعالم 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big thanks ♥️

  • @poonamramawat7637
    @poonamramawat7637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson

  • @rachelotchere5201
    @rachelotchere5201 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, please I want to know if there is a formula for calculating how many resonance structures there could be in a given organic compound?

  • @angelic8580
    @angelic8580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    İsn't third one 3° carbin in 5.56 example?

  • @justsomenightowl7220
    @justsomenightowl7220 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:28 why doesn't the carbocation have a lone pair? i thought if there is not enough bonds, you would have a lone pair instead.

    • @paysonkeown2960
      @paysonkeown2960 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it had a lone pair, it would have a negative formal charge.

    • @tobealonewithyou
      @tobealonewithyou 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@paysonkeown2960what is a fprmal charhe

  • @ericjancee2253
    @ericjancee2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about the distance formula

  • @noname6284
    @noname6284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you mean by common and uncommon resonance structures?

  • @cherissadover912
    @cherissadover912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How do you determine which is primary, secondary, or tertiary?

    • @johannes7935
      @johannes7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i don't understand it either. Hope someone can help ^^

    • @sanafakih3541
      @sanafakih3541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      count the number of substituents hung on the carbocation. 1 carbocations are bounded to one carbon, secondary to 2 and tertiary to 3

    • @johannes7935
      @johannes7935 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sanafakih3541 thank you

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    @butterflynerd0078 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so very much :)

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    @michaeldonatelli7166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wish me luck on my chem exam tomorrow

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      @adansilva6851 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @GeorgeCronigen
    @GeorgeCronigen 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why oxygen has a formal charge of plus one. Yes it donates one lone pair to form a π bond with C but it doesn't lose any electrons

  • @reeddaley6617
    @reeddaley6617 ปีที่แล้ว

    why couldn't the middle carbon gain a lone pair as part of resonance on the first molecule?

  • @specialrat1311
    @specialrat1311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait whats the difference between the primary, secondary, and tertiary?

  • @cja12345
    @cja12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    for 6:06 I got 4 resonance structures instead of 3, what did I do wrong😭

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  • @ramshaibadat
    @ramshaibadat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why did it turn two carbons towards the pi bond

  • @hikarisan422
    @hikarisan422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it possible for an element in a resonance structure/form to have missing electrons but the rest of the elements have complete octets? I'm really really confused right now.

    • @Leumas34676
      @Leumas34676 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe the carbon can be short

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  • @amycool64
    @amycool64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t understand how the positive charges are jumping

    • @joharahk4849
      @joharahk4849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The positive charges are jumping because as shown in the first example, the pi bond is becoming a single bond, basically “losing” a bond, giving it a positive charge since they’re essentially opposite (when a bond is lost it’s positive, when a bond is gained it’s negative). Hope i explained that accurately I'm learning too :)

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    @littleinstein-i2m 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really don't understand 1°,2°,3°allelic carbocation😕

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    @rassimsimou1594 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good

  • @danpireocean4802
    @danpireocean4802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @cja12345
    @cja12345 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate organic chemistry and I'm just like 2 weeks into the class

  • @eman4159
    @eman4159 ปีที่แล้ว

    برضو ما فهمتش😔

  • @joshuabanda6204
    @joshuabanda6204 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We gang tulale mwe nakutala🚶

  • @EarleneRuckey-f3x
    @EarleneRuckey-f3x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Emmanuelle Ranch

  • @filipsakowski4492
    @filipsakowski4492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wanna kiss you bro mwah

  • @TheEmefa-vv2rq
    @TheEmefa-vv2rq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kindly stop deleting old videos pleasee 🙏🏾🥺

    • @TheOrganicChemistryTutor
      @TheOrganicChemistryTutor  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've added more content to it. The full version was 31 minutes but now it's over an hour.

    • @TheEmefa-vv2rq
      @TheEmefa-vv2rq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheOrganicChemistryTutor ok God bless you for helping us
      Some of us couldn’t join the membership because it’s not available in our country

    • @rossmontgomery8302
      @rossmontgomery8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEmefa-vv2rq check his patreon as it may be available there

    • @alexkent9599
      @alexkent9599 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you guys have any account that has subscribed to his channel on Patreon? I need it but i Cant afford it :(

  • @courtneyrighter6980
    @courtneyrighter6980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    face reveal

  • @sydneystocken6652
    @sydneystocken6652 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    face reveal rn

  • @Gloobiewoobie
    @Gloobiewoobie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love you

  • @elizabethapushkin5596
    @elizabethapushkin5596 ปีที่แล้ว

    SOS

  • @tegdz
    @tegdz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noice

  • @adamtrombley5529
    @adamtrombley5529 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wtf are you waffling about