I was fortunate to have occasional glimpses into this lost corporate civilization in the Sixties and Seventies. The corporate headquarters of a Fortune 100 company on Park Avenue in Manhattan was an elegant showplace until they became an A & M casualty, diversified manufacturing divisions sold off and now disappeared for their cash value by their new owners. The executive office spaces (after they vacated) became functional, utilitarian and pathetic clerk cubicles for the consulate of a foreign government. The CEO was reminiscent of Bert Cooper - patrician, educated, well compensated, suave and artful. Matthew Weiner and company captured it all masterfully.
I love Bert Cooper! You think he's so aloof, yet he's perhaps the sharpest man in the company. Oh, and his eccentricities (and everyone else's reactions) are so funny.
Matt wiener is totally right.. Robert morse is a talented actor, he's so real and his mannerisms and how he says things sounds so natural and good and you really never know how he will say things, he says things in different ways and nails it every time.. the acting on the show overall is good.. i feel each actor embodies their character very well.. good casting
I really like the character of Bertram Cooper. I think he’s one of the most underrated characters on the show even though he runs half of the company through out the series and founded it along with Sterling. However I do think Sterling a much more popular character along with the others compared to Cooper. Overall, I find Cooper to be a very fascinating character and someone who as an audience we don’t know a lot about as person. I don’t we ever look inside of his world and see his point of view. He also is grounded character and does seem to be way more content than his collaborators and partners at work.... just my thoughts
@giantsean Of course, I forgot to note that., but I was thinking of them as both part of the same 18th century Orientalism trend where artists and intellectuals were fascinated with this generalized idea of the "Far East". I've always imagined Burt's parents, or one of their "eccentric" friends was a follower of it and passed it on to him at a young age.
@bonomo012 he's a right leaning, libertarian guy, that's why he likes Ayn Rand. As far as the Japanese go, conservative peeps tend to admire the Japanese martial and competitive culture.
Well, Ayn Rand was the hip thing for big corporate dudes to be into then, it shows he was ahead of the curve. For the next 50 years corporate executives would depend on Rand to affirm in their minds that greed was in fact good. Also, Rand was based in NYC at the time. The Japanese thing could relate to the Art of War, another popular work amongst corporate executives, which he quotes. He's also old and into modern art, Japan was all the rage in the field at the turn of the century.
mobile513 Funny he’d be into Japanese culture after the war though with many war veterans from the Pacific in senior positions in the corporate world like Roger Sterling.
@bonomo012 Oops, part 1s at the top. I don't think he has ties to the Japanese people themselves, it's all about Sun Tzu. An admirable, clever guy for him to learn from, no more or less, and he's thus interested in the period. Maybe he feels kinship to their pure, logical warrior mentality. How he got into it, who knows. Again, maybe modern art, or maybe he knew some Japanese immigrants, and maybe they were in the camps. It's unlikely to come up otherwise though, no one talked about it then.
One of the brilliant things that Ayn Rand pointed out is that without individualism, there is no collectivism, because collectivism is built on the achievement of individuals.
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I was fortunate to have occasional glimpses into this lost corporate civilization in the Sixties and Seventies. The corporate headquarters of a Fortune 100 company on Park Avenue in Manhattan was an elegant showplace until they became an A & M casualty, diversified manufacturing divisions sold off and now disappeared for their cash value by their new owners. The executive office spaces (after they vacated) became functional, utilitarian and pathetic clerk cubicles for the consulate of a foreign government. The CEO was reminiscent of Bert Cooper - patrician, educated, well compensated, suave and artful. Matthew Weiner and company captured it all masterfully.
I love Bert Cooper! You think he's so aloof, yet he's perhaps the sharpest man in the company. Oh, and his eccentricities (and everyone else's reactions) are so funny.
I kind of want to see a spin-off of this series set twenty or thirty years before madmen
Emily Edmonds
I bet the idea that the show be set in the 60s was more central to Mad Men than almost any other idea.
Better Call Bert!!
“1923, we were giddy”
Matt wiener is totally right.. Robert morse is a talented actor, he's so real and his mannerisms and how he says things sounds so natural and good and you really never know how he will say things, he says things in different ways and nails it every time.. the acting on the show overall is good.. i feel each actor embodies their character very well.. good casting
I really like the character of Bertram Cooper. I think he’s one of the most underrated characters on the show even though he runs half of the company through out the series and founded it along with Sterling. However I do think Sterling a much more popular character along with the others compared to Cooper. Overall, I find Cooper to be a very fascinating character and someone who as an audience we don’t know a lot about as person. I don’t we ever look inside of his world and see his point of view. He also is grounded character and does seem to be way more content than his collaborators and partners at work.... just my thoughts
I loved his send off in the show
it's a total shame we didn't get an entire episode following bert Cooper.
"Cooper After Hours" would have been awesome.
he never lost that twinkle in his eye
@giantsean
Of course, I forgot to note that., but I was thinking of them as both part of the same 18th century Orientalism trend where artists and intellectuals were fascinated with this generalized idea of the "Far East". I've always imagined Burt's parents, or one of their "eccentric" friends was a follower of it and passed it on to him at a young age.
Late discovery from TH-cam with this show,well written
How many group interviews did these people do ?
"Take off your shoes"
Damn it, Alice, I don't ask for much.
do you know the theme song called living in harmony yes or no
@bonomo012 he's a right leaning, libertarian guy, that's why he likes Ayn Rand.
As far as the Japanese go, conservative peeps tend to admire the Japanese martial and competitive culture.
Well, Ayn Rand was the hip thing for big corporate dudes to be into then, it shows he was ahead of the curve. For the next 50 years corporate executives would depend on Rand to affirm in their minds that greed was in fact good. Also, Rand was based in NYC at the time.
The Japanese thing could relate to the Art of War, another popular work amongst corporate executives, which he quotes. He's also old and into modern art, Japan was all the rage in the field at the turn of the century.
mobile513 Funny he’d be into Japanese culture after the war though with many war veterans from the Pacific in senior positions in the corporate world like Roger Sterling.
Bertram is one cool ass dude.
have you ever tried it before yes or no
hi robert morse how are you today
Ayn Rand certainly was not the first to bring that idea up. Its thousands of years old.
how are you doing today
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@beepandbop
Yeah, you said what I did in a lot less words. I feel silly.
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@bonomo012
Oops, part 1s at the top. I don't think he has ties to the Japanese people themselves, it's all about Sun Tzu. An admirable, clever guy for him to learn from, no more or less, and he's thus interested in the period. Maybe he feels kinship to their pure, logical warrior mentality. How he got into it, who knows. Again, maybe modern art, or maybe he knew some Japanese immigrants, and maybe they were in the camps. It's unlikely to come up otherwise though, no one talked about it then.
One of the brilliant things that Ayn Rand pointed out is that without individualism, there is no collectivism, because collectivism is built on the achievement of individuals.
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There are other rules!!
yes or no
Well, that was dull and pointless.