Yamaha Star Bolt vs Harley Davidson 883 Comparison
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- Head-to-head comparison of the Bolt by Star Motorcycles and the Harley Davidson 883. yamaha.us/yBolt
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Today I went to a Yamaha event in my town,tried the BOLT basic entry model (basic rear shocks, no ABS, basic seat).
Ran straight to the closest HD dealership and tried the IRON 883 to compare:
At the end of the day I bought the BOLT.
My reasons:
- Power delivery on the bolt is fantastic, that torque!
- Sound: the BOLT sound sharper and louder in my ears.
- the gear box is easy, light and precise.
- Suspensions, I read many reviews of people complaining about the BOLT hard suspensions, I am about 190 pound and I did not experience any disconffort as opposed to the big guys in the other videos on TH-cam.
- Heavy but actually light, super agile at low speed. (my previous bike was a Ducati 999)
- Riding position just spot on !
- Price
My reasons why I did not choose the HD:
- The clutch would never let me find neutral (I spent the whole 30 minutes of the test drive without behing able to release the clutch). Explanation given by HD: it is easier put in neutral while stopping the bike and not after coming to a complete stop. Explanation 2: all HDs need 300kms to get used to...
- the seat was terribly hard (harder than the bolt).
- Braking is too mild, and lack response to my taste (maybe because the bike was new?)
- Suspension much too soft at the front. If you combine the soft braking and the suspension you have to anticipate a lot on your braking when reaching more than 40mph.
- Lack of power but it is unfair given that it is 80cc less than the BOLT.
- No rear seat nor rear foot rest as standard ...
- where I live they sell the HD 2500USD more than the bolt with rear seat incl.
The subjective part:
- The looks of the HD is of course better but high price + less comfort = less riding pleasure.
- The BOLT looks OK, I found the Mat Grey not bad at all. You completely forget about the look when actually riding the bike.
Oh I forgot to mention that initially I was on the market for a Honda CB 1300SF or a Monster 1000.
Good comment :) I've had the exact same experience when testing the two. I'm NOT gonna buy a HD just so I can say "I have a HD *brag brag* ." I'm going for the bike that feels right, and is better on the most important aspects! Isn't that basically just logic/common sense? Liked the HD too, by all means, but still I liked the Bolt better. And if some HD fanboys wants to look down on me when I come riding on my Bolt, then well, I couldn't care less :) Fucking highschool mentality, grow up.
SomeCoolName harleys are over priced crap,spend tons of money buying one then tons of money to get it fixed,i want a bike to ride,thats why i wont pay for a name ,,,sorry harley but its true!! also lot of harley parts come from japan! lol
It isn't unfair to compare their power just because of 80cc's. Horsepower is more important for that.
Bolt vs 883 comparison? Hardly! This was a Bolt commercial pure and simple. Don't call something a comparison when you are so obviously just trying to sell one of the products.
I've got a 883 and I must say that all the things they pointed out with the HD are true, it's pretty slow, it has shit suspension, ground clearance is rubbish, it vibrates when your get above...well I'd say 80km. All those things considered I'd NEVER swap it for a Bolt. I used to own a Yamaha, great bike, but it was in a category that Yamaha owned (or at least weren't just imitating), if you want a bobber there is only one brand, sorry Yamaha, riding a Harley is not about 0-100, or comfortable suspension, it's a life style.
very true i agree with you...its a lifestyle
I must disagree, riding a motorcycle is a life style. What brand you choose is simply a matter of preference. The folks at HD that were smart enough to market the HD as a life style choice made a master stroke of pure genius. You willfully admit the sportster is the inferior machine yet you choose to keep it as a "lifestyle" choice. Nothing wrong with that choice at all. It is what it is.
As much as I love the mystique and street cred that comes with owning an HD, I'll pick the technically superior bike that offers a better ride, and better maneuverability every time.
rdsii64 Sure, agree it's a life style riding a bike in general but you can't get away from the fact that the bolt is a Japanese imitation of the Sportster, and as you point out whilst the Harley got street cred the bolt doesn't. My point is however that I'd happily buy a R1 or a MT-09 or a FZ, because those bikes are all Yamaha's own models....not some rip off copies. I think Yamaha can do better then making a copy of the Harley.
Mikael Gotlib Is the Bolt a blatant copy of the 883's style? Sure it is! No one with a brain will argue with that. Hell Yamaha doesn't even try to hide that fact. Right or wrong, thats how they play the game in the big leagues. Honda pulled the same stunt with the Fury by building a "factory chopper" with a bullet proof engine and the best warrantee any "chopper" ever had. Every Japanese motorcycle company has a copy of the fatboy. The rub is that while they are BLATANT copies, they are technically superior motorcycles. If I were into that style of bike I would take a Roadstar 1700 over the HD Yamaha copied any day. Copy or not, ITS A BETTER BIKE. If HD made better bikes instead of pedeling a "life style" (which is marketing genius by the way) these blatant copies would not sell as well as they do. HD is partly to blame for creating the copy cat market. Instead of creating cutting edge superior machines, They created "the biker mystic". The rest of the motorcycling companies are turning that mystic into profits with copy cat bikes that are built better. Ever wonder why Yamaha also has a star cycles clothing line and a club similar to the Harley owners group. The copy cat machine at its finest, and the board of directors are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Yeah, it is a nice copy of the Sportster. Except the digital speedo that looks totally out of place, the goofy looking flange around the gas tank that looks unfinished, and the front of the frame looks like an afterthought to get around the front exhaust pipe. I do like the 2 into 1 exhaust. I would expect a bike with larger displacement to be quicker, especially with a little less weight.
It is a decent looking copy, but I if had to choose, as an American, I would buy American instead of sending my money overseas... especially since the price of both bikes is equal. Why buy a copy when you can have the original?
But to each their own, if you like the Bolt, buy a Bolt. It would be a boring world if we all had the same bike. So long as your riding, I say it doesn't matter what you ride.
After lots of search, I bought the new XV950R this Wednesday in Istanbul. So far great machine...
As a long long time metric rider, kawasaki's and honda's I've really wanted to get back to a small fun bike like my old vulcan 800a, on a VTX1800c these days, Have been between the harley forty eight and someone brought up the bolt I figured I'd give it a look, after seeing this Video posted by yamaha I can tell you I'm sold.... sold on getting the forty eight nothing like making a video saying your bike is the bomb.
There's a lot I like about the bolt. However I still don't understand why they're still using that glossy digital readout 3 years after its initial release when so many people have complained about it being unreadable.
I think the Iron's design is more polished and my guess is there's more options for modification. But I could definitely see why so many people would choose the Bolt over it.
The digital read-out takes away from the bike, I will give you that. But it is honestly not as bad as you've heard. People like to complain. The bike is tight, fast and loads of torque. As for options, they are endless.
The Bolt is a LookAlike... The Sportster is a timeless classic, the Bolt is just another good bike from Yamaha. Performance wise, with 52 Hp I wouldn't mention it that often. You people build the R1,that's a performance machine. The Bolt is just a good cruiser with a disastruos resale value, at leat here in Germany.
Sinonim Anonim Same in the US
Yes, if you want to be like everyone else, go get a harley, matching shirt, wallet, boots, panties and tattoo. For me that was the number 1 reason I did not buy a harley. You clowns are all clones of each other but complain about any other bike out there that resembles a Harley. Why do you idiiots all look alike then?
@@whiskeyjack9767Did you get therapy in the last 6 years?
I have an iron. Do I regret it? No. But every one has one. I feel like just another guy who bought a Harley. I love the look of the bolt. Also love the look of the Yamaha r3. Should've done more research
I think the bolt looks interesting and appealing in the way that other metric bikes intrigue me, they just have so many bits and pieces that you don't find on HD's. That being said, it's kind of funny to me that the Bolt relies of the iconic design of the Sportster to prop itself up. If Yamaha is so forward thinking why emulate the core design of the sporty? Why do any other companies emulate the look? Because Harelys invoke emotion out of people whether they like it or not. Good or bad, people "feel" a certain way about Harleys, that I don't think they feel when looking at a Kawasaki Vulcan or a Vstar for example. I'm not saying the Bolt isn't a good bike by any means, they're more affordable, maintenance isn't ridiculous if you take it to a dealer, they've got progressive technology. I quite like it but I think Harleys will always means something different to the people that ride them. For better or for worse, there's nothing like an Harley.
Joseph Soriano Same way people will forever copy the shape of Fender guitars. Manufacturers use Fender's base aesthetics of Stratocaster or Telecaster guitars to sell a product that is "better built" than the original or with "better electronics" or just plain cheaper to sell a product on the back of something truly iconic. From another direction, how many sunglasses look like Rayban Aviators? Going from those on cheap sea-side beach stores to high end sunglasses? You can pay peanuts or a small fortune, but there is nothing that replaces the original, classic design.
+Joseph Soriano I own a bolt and freaking love it... but your comments hits the nail on the head my friend!
Just got done looking at a few Bolts at the Austin MotoGP race, all I can say after finally getting to see/touch/sit on a Bolt in person is I'm so glad I held off buying a 883 Iron last year... The Bolt wins hands down, I will be getting one in the next few months... Star/Yamaha killed it on the Bolt!!! Awesome machine. Double thumbs up.
star bolt yamaha huh? I will stick with HD for the look feel and even just the american name. Classic is classic for a reason.
They're not American anymore. Trump saw to that problem. Most of the parts come from Japan or China.
still love my iron 883 but star has seriously stepped up their game
"Harley is a lifestyle" - eating shit could be a lifestyle too.
That's the last corporate excuse they make when they know otherwise all other competitors are better than Harley in every single way.
Well I put it like this. I've owned the bolt for about 6 months, got rid of it for a 2020 Harley Davidson Roadster 1200, and I absolutetly love it. Haven't thought about the bolt since.
Tell me, please, if the people at Yamaha had time to study the Iron, then why is it so horribly designed where looks are concerned? If the Bolt had a goodlooking exhaust, a goodlooking airfilter, no engine sticking out from underneath the tank, no unsightly gap between the tank and the seat and a meter i can read, then i'd surely choose the Bolt over the Iron. The relatively small difference in engine performance doesn't compensate for those terribly looking parts imo. Really, how hard can it be to have a decent stock exhaust and airfilter?
I've put 33,000 miles on my Sportster. I ride alone every mile.
What some people call shortcomings mean nothing to me.
Honestly the 883 should be cheaper simple
i love my 2015 yamaha bolt!! vance and hines twin slash exhaust, vance and hines air cleaner and I have a fuel management system as well. sounds beast, runs great. harley is fine, but i chose a bolt.
A harley is a harley, it's more than just a bike.
It's a lifestyle
The folks at HD that were smart enough to market the HD as a life style choice made a master stroke of pure genius.
people willfully buy inferior bikes at inflated prices for the "life style". Nothing wrong with that. As long as there are folks with this mind set willing to buy motorcycles, the folks at HD will never have to innovate, and just live off their careful cultivated reputation and keep selling that "life style".
nailed it
Techno Viking is that really you ??
Harley's on the clock an I think they know it. I have nothing against Harley, but they bend to come out with innovative technology if they want to stay competitive. My generation isn't as star struck as the old guard. Once they're gone, Harley will lose market supremacy if they don't get their act together now.
No they won't their like Nintendo, they'll never die. Even if it is shitty. Which it isn't.
Runeguy33 The problem is that HD doesn't need to do anything, which is unfortunate because they have the money and skill to build something truly amazing. There are too many fanboys and girls out there who will buy for the name and name alone. Watch the shootouts. There is always at least one reviewer who says, " The other bike(s) are better, but I'm going with the Harley." These two bikes were on the list of three that I was considering. I went with the Vulcan S ABS with no regrets. But, it was a tough decision between it and the Bolt. Ultimately, it came down to fit and comfort. The Vulcan felt way better in the saddle, and it has a few more niceties for almost a grand less. The Harley was out of the picture after sixty seconds on the road.
daver787 I am right there with u. also, the Vulcan s abs is liquid cooled....no brainer on hot days. as a rider under 5'7 the adjustable fitment helped the kaw as well. still....if I were to have a second bike it would be the bolt.
Runeguy33 I think in 20 years you're still gonna be saying "Harley's on the clock".
"Your generation isn't as star struck as the old guard" ? What generation are you? The class of 2016?
There's a hell of alot of 20's and 30's guys at bike nights with Harleys. I'll be lookin' for your post in 2035.
Not a comparison. An ad for Bolt :(
Well... the Bolt is just a motorcycle. And the Harley.... well... it's a Harley.
Is this channel a little biased? Slap a 1200 kit on the iron
i like the jax teller wana be they got for this video
I've had a Sportster for the last 6 years and just for grins I took a demo ride on a new Star Bolt. As a result, all I've got to say is that Harley had better get back to the drawing board and start improving the Sportster. I found the Bolt to be smoother and quicker and had a more "solid" feel than the Sporty. If I were in the market for a small V-Twin cruiser, the Bolt would be my first pick.
I love my bolt...the bike is not for long road trips unless u want it to be...very good in the city..smooth ride...mirrors sux but who cares...the bike is f- ing awesome...
my husband has the vulcan s and it's a great bike too
I ride a sportster, been riding metrics for 30 years, not a metric hater, the Bolt is a fine bike but fit and finish goes to the Sportster, He forgot to mention that tank seam around the bolt tank that was borrowed from the old yamaha radian, for better or worse, there is no plastic on the sportster, yes it adds weight but bikes covered with plastichrome or plastiblack parts will not become classics, my 2 cents.
Cool motorcycle, cool dude.
keanu reeves really needs to do a sequal with this guy "dude wheres my bike" 😄😄😄
Watch Shawn Smoak's moto vlogs. He's got a bunch of high quality and really enjoyable vlogs on the 883 Iron. His videos really sell me on the Iron!
Frejborg What does he have on the Bolt though?
He might have some videos on the Bolt, don't recall. But I just really enjoy his channel, and he rides an Iron so I thought it was a good recommendation to check out his channel.
Frejborg Gotcha, just wondering if he's done any specific comparison videos against the Bolt. I'm really trying to find an unbiased review of the two, but it seems to be impossible to come by. Clearly, this was biased towards the Bolt and Harley riders will always find a bias towards the Harley. I guess I'll have to just ride both and choose for myself!
Only because this guy works for Star Motorcycle
Nice jacket, who is it made by?
"In pure terms of workmanship, personally I don't like Harleys. I ride them because I'm in the club, and that's the image, but if I could I would seriously consider riding a Honda ST1100 or a BMW. We really missed the boat not switching over to the Japanese models when they began building bigger bikes." -Sonny Barger, pg. 53 of "Hell's Angel, The Life and Times of Sonny Barger and the Hell's Angels Motorcycle Club"
I don't care what you guys say. That bolt is a really nice bike.
Bump it up to 1200cc or more and I'm listening. 59 more cc of displacement isn't a big enough bump to outclass Harley, but the price tag does make it tempting. I suspect this will be the go-to starter bike once a few model years end up on the used market.
883 all the way I love my 2014
ive had the same experience at team powersports. try joe snow and twin specialties; he's a good guy with a good staff.
Better is better.. Harley's are nice but I follow quality that's why I bought the Bolt.
Looking forward to seeing one for real. Liking the Bolt very much!
Sound brother....Sound.....
My bolt rspect is so cool . I love my bike , of course I would love to have a Harley in the future as we'll ,
would have been a better comparison against the sporster 1200 beings more people buy the 1200 over the 883, power output and 0 to 60 and 1/4 mile times would be great also
Except the Bolt is on the 883 price category.
ah you have a point there, totally slipped my mind
Recently test-drove a Sportster 1200. First time on a Harley. I'm the owner of a Honda Shadow Sabre 1100, btw, which is smooooth and meek. Nothing could've prepared me for the adrenaline rush of gears 1-3 on the 1200 Sportster!! It's rude, crude, loud, rough around the edges and reminds one of a 'Stones concert! There's no suspension at all. Spend some $ on a suspension upgrade and the Sportster 1200 is a fun rocket ship.
It has to be between the Kawaski Vulcan and the Yamaha Bolt.
I like the Bolt. I'm sure its a fine bike. I actually considered buying one last summer. I just couldn't get past the fact that this is a 950cc motor that only makes 51hp. I don't get it.
You shoulda tried to ride one.
If I could find a place to let you do that I certainly would.
Chas Walker it makes 51 horsepower because it's air cooled if it were liquid cooled it would make double that probably 105.
Only three thing to say. IT IS NOT A HARLEY, CAN NOT MACH THE SOUND AND THE WEIGHT CENTER GRAVITY.
Harley is Harley
stupid is as stupid does. Thanks for the gem there Forrest.
chinese are always attached to their fake status symbols
I'M IN LOVE WITH THE BOLT
Why not just by the bike Star spent a very long time coping?
official response is that they needed fuel tank capacity. Rolled seam would widen the tunnel
stop talking about the better performance of the bolt. you are insulting us and your R1s also.
all a bolt is a updated xv920 virago with a bigger bore and fuel injection and belt drive vs shaft drive
i have ridden my brothers iron 883 and I just bought a bolt. the only thing i liked about the HD was the sound. his HD did not break well at all and leaning in corners was a challenge. The bolt much better bike. I bought Vance and Hines slip on exhaust and changed the air intake and sounds way better then my brothers bike. in fact asks to ride my bike all the time. HD is losing its hold on the market I mean look what HD came out with. Street 500 and street 750 why to compete with asain markets because there losing money in north America.. Both crappy bikes may I add.
both are nice, dont really see the point in owning an 883 sportster unless your a bird who cant carry a 1200. have seen the bolt on road in all black with forward controlls which improved the look for me. but like i said, with the weight of these bikes i wouldnt bother with anything smaller than the 1200s, personally.
Even though I prefer the Bolt, I think this video is wayyy biased towards the Bolt. Might have something to do with the fact that this is the Yamaha Channel...
Does this guy really ride or does he just made to look cool as he talks far too intelligently for a biker....and I know, I am a biker and shit I don't look this cool in my leathers.
+Bob Corridan - Awesome comment lol... so rare to see people with good humor and the ability to chuckle at themselves anymore.
What about engine character and sound, customization ability, aftermarket parts.? I know the sportster its not the best motorcycle out there but for me you compare 40 year old vs new copy...Harleys have the best sound because are real classics
Looks like an enduro sportster, but hate to break it to ya Yamaha, there's only one Harley!
yeah... and Harleys are the most under-power / over-rated bikes in the world
yep h.d. better then the bolt and I do not like H.D. .. demo the bolt .. not worth the $ 1500 less ya ok , I could move the air box so my knee has some where to go ..and gauges I could see in the sun ...and move the ing. switch so I could see it / find it ..
And there's only one Yamaha.
The vid is right about one thing. I see Harley drivers shaken to death at stop signs, that might be cool for a while, but I'd rather ride a machine that puts the power into the wheels than into key rattling and hand shaking.
I like the better clearance too.
Only one Harley is right, and if that's what floats your boat, basically bragging rights, go for it. A certain group of people will be impressed.
I'd be more impressed with someone bragging about the Bolt. It shows he or she shopped and ignored the Harley religion and found a superior machine with a similar style and doesn't care what other people think about it, because he/she buys for themselves, not to prove anything to anybody else. Not that there is anything wrong with that. It just doesn't impress me as much as going down a different road for good reasons.
Databyter.
Databyter Well said :) Too bad many (not all) Harley riders are too stubborn or ignorant to realize that that's what it's supposed to be about; the pure love for riding, and having a bike you're happy with! Because, if it looks awesome, performs awesome, feels awesome, and is also pretty affordable, then that sounds like a great bike to me; regardless of what letters/logos are inscribed on it. The Bolt is a great machine, that also happen to look and feel very sexy ;) Deal with it HD fans. Enjoy your rides people, no matter the brand! :)
they might bring back the styling of the XS650 with a tripple engine. who knows what they plan to do with the new waves of tripples they're developing
HD don't sell performance bikes.They sell an image of , look at me - just got out of jail .😉 don't kill me. But at the end of the day the yamaha will be easier to live with & a huge dealer network with after sales service , I think this will be its biggest advantage! Would love see a year cost comparison test including parts for service & repairs? 😮 theres the cliff hanger....
Excellent post.
Bolt - 1 Season of riding. 6200+ miles $80~ maintenance
J Bolt Thats pretty cheap maintenance. Good to know , 👍HD is a bit like BMW. you pay extra for the brand...... for life 💰💰💰 parts 💰💰💰 service💰💰💰 the things people don't look at before there bike purchase.
J Bolt have seen posts of HD 11k manual service nightmares of $737.00 😱 wholly cow. I'm glad I'm not that guy😵
Everything about the bolt is better than the 883. I like Harley's don't get me wrong, but all these people that have their fingers wrapped around Harley because of the name are just rediculous. Can't be open minded enough to give other products a shot. They don't know if they would like it or not. I think most would be surprised how smooth the Bolt really is and how comfortable. Not to mention the engine will run for a very long time.
Once used models start popping up you will see more people interested. No one going to choose this bike over HD if they are the same price. Also, the HD will hold it's resale value better. I would get one but only if it was cheaper. Yamaha going up against a company with 110 years of history.
A Harley motorcycle clone pitched by a Charlie Hunnan clone. Of course!
lol I love these comparison video's from Yamaha. First the MT-09 vs the Street Triple, now this. It's basically saying here is the market leader... and here's why it's shit compared to this all new Yamaha motorcycle. Best marketing department ever lol
They did. They're called the Sryker and the Raider. Nothing Harley makes looks anything like either of those bikes. If you see them in person you'll see what I mean.
yeah, I just commented all in favor of the bolt over the sahdow. But this comparison...
I'm not feeling it. I'd probably take the Harley - and I ride a Vstar 950. Two reasons I got the Yammy over the Harley : dollars and size. I couldnt even come close to affording the Harley I would have wanted. And the sportster is girl-size small. But even the tall guys who I have met who have the 883 say they love it. Its hard not to prefer a Harley.
HD outsells all the metrics put together 10 to 1.
harleys are nice bikes, i might get one someday, when im old and wanna be an asshole and disrespectful towards other riders if they own something different than a harley
Does this guy even ride?
why all the moaning about which is better? buy the one you like because you like it, not because some one says theirs is better. cheers.
Comparing metric bikes to HD is a bit hard since every metric is better built like the honda shaddow , kawasaki vulcan & the biggest selling cruiser in USA - suzuki Boulevard. ..
then find a 2011 vstar 950 for $3000. The bolt and 950 vstar share the same engine. I like the 883, and Harley is just cool, but the Japanese market is offering some really good, reliable bikes.
thanks for your PM. I did have a HD before. I know what I'm taking about in regards to owning both HD and Japanese engineering. if you're gonna bust my balls for having my own opinion, I dont care. Love your HD. I dont care. Convince me that you know more than me, or that what I know is wrong? I dont care.I had an opinion and you felt in necessary to "grace" me with your knowledge. Guess what I dont care! I respect your loyalty but don't push it on me, or feel telling us non-HD ppl we're wrong
The bolts alright I'm not crazy bout that big muffler on the side. I think I'd still take the sportster though just in a 1200..
This is not a comparison, it's an advertisement! Hahaha I was finding it weird, then I looked at who uploaded the video. No doubt: YamahaMotorUSA. I just watched a REAL comparison by BikeMEtv, and he had plenty to complain too. Too stiff suspension, not enough clearance, for example.
Harley 4EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How many of your Bolt owners have the front wheel wobble?
I love how Yamaha openly admits to ripping off Harley, why can't they put an original looking cruiser of their own out?
The Truth is the 883 is much worse than the Bolt, overall. That said it doesn't mean the Bolt is Top Notch. Compare to the Vulcan S, the Kawi 650 dusts the Bolt. As for the 883, if I were Harley I would compare that to the Honda Shadow; mentioning Honda's rear wheel "Drum Brake"...
Lamentável a Yamaha não lançá-la no Brasil. Está perdendo mercado. Eu a compraria tranquilamente. Vou ter que comprar uma HD, infelizmente.
love mine
love mind too!
love mine 3
But will it blend?
for me Harley only...
Really Yamaha, these commercials make me dislike your brand in general and this bike in particular. Way to lose customer interest.
Why they call it 'Star'? Why not keep using 'Yamaha'?
Skill Sessions They’re trying to make people forget that the bike is made by a keyboard maker.
this video isn't biased...
But it isn't a Harley - when will they realise that us riders want something that costs more, shakes out any dentistry fillings and have to spend another £5K on to get a ride-able bike that we don't ride but fire 'her' up when our mates come around so we can compare Vance and Hines exhaust sounds? Come on Yamaha, get with the program!
is this bike only for the U.S ?:O
not always the case
Must not sell well if they have to go down to doing this...
These videos are put out by Yamaha .Of course this guy is going to say the the bolts are better .Lets see an unbiased review
It might have all those things over the Harley, and it does look nice, but HD has it's name imprinted all over American Heritage. Besides, when I think of iconic bobber, I think of a stripped down WWII Harley - not a modern day 883. Silly Yamaha.
Here's what Yamaha needs to understand: Motorcycles are primarily purchased for recreation, not transportation. If you want transportation then you would be concerned with performance, cornering clearance, suspension travel, etc....But as far as pure recreation goes, all you care about is fun, image, the feeling you get when you ride it, feel it, hear it, look at it. I feel icky when I look at the Bolt. It looks cheap and thrown together, the lines are all wonky, it sounds tinny and wimpy. The Iron looks like sex, it follows a consistent theme, the lines are flowing, it doesn't look cheap, it sounds deep and throaty, I feel excited when I look at it. But hey, the Bolt is "better", there's no arguing that.
BLC dude, my motorcycle is my primary ride. I cage it only when I have to. people who ride Harleys for the most part do so for recreation and posing. the cost to maintain them negates the every day use of these things. the few who do ride everyday ride the sportsters or dynas.
Harley has finally shown up (last of course) to the commuter party. Their street 750 is a liquid cooled standard bike. We'll see if they stay competitive with it...
Runeguy33 that's nice to hear but, the cost of maintenance is atrocious. I was looking at the dyna street bob as a ride a while back. when I talked to the sales person (not one female in the bunch) he said that if I even changed my own oil I will void he warranty. well, fuck you very much. I do my own regular maintenance mostly. damn, that turned out to be too expensive.
I prefer liquid cooled engines. I am with you...I am curious to see how that 750 fairs as well.
Runeguy33 Yep the Street would be an amazing utilitarian option if it was cheap and readily available everywhere other than India. The reason it is not widespread, is that they don't want to upset the prestige of Harley owners in moneyed countries through mass ownership but want to place a product within massive developing markets where 2 wheeled transport is still the massive majority. Saying that, I ride every single day and only fresh snow on highway stops me and if any motorcycle manufacturer wants to make a bike you can live on and still feel like you ride a prize horse and not just a trusty mule, it would be most welcomed
whats the name of first and 0:40 song? ty in advance
nothing like a harley....
If you're thinking about one of these better let me know, they're not going to last!
The bike they are comparing it to is not the 883 low, its the iron 883,
but how much will the Bolt be worth in a few years compared to what the Harley will be worth?
+Joe Perles .........poor logic my friend.....I can take you to Riverside Harley, one of the largest retailers in the nation and show you what they are dumping used bikes for.....I don't buy a car nor a bike as an investment (that's a Mercedes logic and the Koreans are eating into Mercedes mid and top end market at 2/3rds the cost) vehicle...if I want an investment I go to the stock market...if I want a bike I go to the bike market and if the bike is superior to its competitors the day I drive it off the lot and is at a comparable price then the immediate benefit lies with me and not to some unknown future event.
If I go to buy my dream motorcycle and start to think about selling it before I even get it I don't want that motorcycle.
I think you and I just said the same thing....you want to see some sweet sweet bikes go to CafeEacer.com....there are some thunderous 4 cylinder Yamaha's and Kawasaki's and Honda's in the 600 to 850 cc range that are absolutely gorgeious..one of these days I'll sell my cruiser and go back to the traditional cafe racer...I'm not in love with the current crotch rockets, but to each his own...it's just that the cafe racers bring back a time when racing from one coffee shop to another on a cold spring morning was nothing short of a kick in the ass..
But... Its a yamaha
Harley 883 FTW!