Dogmatic Science and Pragmatic Spirituality | Dr. Goutam Paul | TEDxIIESTShibpur
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Ever heard Spirituality to be practical? Dr. Goutam shall argue on this very point in this talk. On Dogmatic Science and Pragmatic Spirituality.
Dr. Goutam Paul completed his undergraduate in Engineering from IIEST Shibpur and later pursued his Masters at University Of Albany, NY and PhD at ISI Kolkata. He currently works as a professor at ISI Kolkata
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at ted.com/tedx
He was our Professor at college. He is a great teacher but unfortunately, my friend Kunal Gupta flunked in his subject xD
TEDx Talks needs to stop providing a platform for such people
@@kunalgupta6402
Why ?
Its nice to hear the analogy given by Srila Prabhupad is reiterated again by a Professor of high calibre !!!!!
does this guy even know what hes talking about. is he just trying to play word salad symantecs to confuse ppl. He is so far off the mark and iven only listend so far for about 2 mins.
feels like hes trying to say science is a thing and religon is a thing so therefore they are infact the same.
So you listened to %13 of the video and gained %13 understanding of the principal. Weird.
Science also studies the inside world and it's problems. Psychological and psychiatric research have both developed very effective methods for curing these so called "inside world" problems.
Yes - and after many years of analysis, now science is telling that the so-called spiritual activities like yoga, meditation, chanting etc. are more suitable, more effective and have less side effects than traditional medicinal treatments for these internal problems.
Every medical discipline studies the organ they specialize in, oncologist looks at tumors, heart surgeons actually look at the heart,and on and on Psychology ans Psychiatry dont study the organ they prescribe drugs for,they dont do scans they dont study brain scans after prescribing meds. That cannot be considered as inner studies,thats speculation.
Curing is hyperbolic. Psychiatry of today and psychology are good as alleviating symptoms and suppressing them.
Modern psychology or psychiatry can only give very temporary solutions , if any at all, to the problems of the mind , just like modern medical science, wiithout delving deep into the spiritual aspects of the matter or the person or situation. While modern psychology deals with the behavioral aspects of the mind it fails to understand the crux of the problem most of the tiimes.
Actually the true meaning of the term psychology is Study of the psyche = soul or spirit ...But modern academicia has turned it into study of the mind and behaviour, which are not at all same.
A more deeper study and observation of the works of Carl Jung, Jordon Peterson or the Indian mystics like Sri Aurovindo, Swami Vivekanada aur Sri Abedananda , Yogananda Paramhansa , to name a few, may lead to the true understanding of the spirit or psyche which can give a clear and elaborate idea about how the mind works . Thank you.
William James: pragmatism.
That's not really spirituality. Spirituality is not psychological it is about strengthening the spiritual body which allows for more precise control of our reality.
I think you are talking about spiritualism.
Well according to me, shrimad bhagwad Geeta would have been questionable by ancient people if lord krishna(as human) would have just gave that knowledge but he proved his words truth by showing his Vishwaroop to Arjuna. If the creator itself is saying something, it's Ofcourse unquestionable. Now how can we say that God speaks truth ?pls itna bhi befcuf mat bano
OR Dogmatic spirituality and Pragmatic science? It seems to me that science is more pragmatic than spirituality and spirituality is more dogmatic than science. OR are Both dogmatic AND pragmatic? 🤔😉😀
They are both as dogmatic as you make them.
"Follow the science" is just as unreasonable as "don't question the scriptures"
The scriptures say to try the word and science as we know it has discovery through methods of verification. To skip those on either category is to ignore the foundational principals of both.
Science and spirituality are proofs against each other. They are only in opposition to each other where one or both are in error.
As for leaning one way or another. That only means that we have neglected one or both.
@@ILikeFreedomYo Science and relgion are not equally dogmatic. Science is based provisional truth. Religion is inclined to lay down principles as incontrovertibly true. Eisenstein, Newtown, and even were sometimes wrong. Moses, Jesus, and even Muhammad were never wrong.
Dogma is a belief or set of beliefs that is accepted by the members of a group without being questioned or doubted. What set of beliefs are accepted without doubt?
The speaker heavily contradicts himself when he explains how Science can be dogmatic and pragmatic.
He says In science, people are forced to beleive in a set of beleifs because they are published in journals, but also says that the central part of science is verifiability. He handwaves the verifiability part of pragmatic spirituality by saying it is "verifiable" if you follow it.
The central part of any spiritual / religious stuff , which havent been yet debunked by science is the lack of any verifiable metric. When religion says, Sins accumulate through some actions, there is no way to verify whether it happens or not. The words "inner peace" is thrown around so much, which again doesnt have any ways to be measured. The abject lack of any controlled studies for spiritual dogma is a evidence for lack of pragmatism in religion.
Most verifiable metric that spiritual dogma has proposed have been proven to be false.
Are seriously thinking to measure spirituality with material gadgets ? Your comment exposes scientific dogma
@@justaguywithaturban6773 Did i say i have to measure it with material gadgets ? All we have to do is measure something objectively. How you do that, is pretty much not my problem, as long as it is verifiable.
@Harish Ganesan
So 10 scientists having a spiritual experiencing and then later confirming the same experience, that’s the nearest we can objectively verify.
@@justaguywithaturban6773 Yes.. Along with a few placebos going through the same process, with everything except the "religion" or "spirtuality" or whatever you name it. And before starting.. maybe we can try and define the experience we'll get.. and then start ? Otherwise you can just point to any positive thing that happened, and say that is because of it.
@Harish Ganesan
Placebos don’t exist in the astral realm, placebos are only with the physical body, but you actually leave the physical body so no placebo. When did religion come in this conversation ? We’re talking about spirituality, a completely different subject. The experience is called astral projection, it’s basically a part of your consciousness leaving your body and that part is in a realm which is called the astral realm.