M Shadows on why rock needs younger bands on festivals
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- M Shadows of Avenged Sevenfold joins to talk about why rock needs younger bands on festivals
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Shadows seems so grounded and genuine.
He's had some serious slack over the years with vocal issues and the band generally just gets so much hate unnecessarily imo
What a dude to still be humble and forward thinking and not closed off and bitter
Rock is becoming the baseball of music. Not being marketed and it’s all about the past.
Rock is becoming like Jazz…
Music made by and for autistic & socially awkward loners who don’t get laid.
Well the reason why rock fans don't want younger bands is because they gen z and the way they dress and I hate the way they look but we need newer bands
American rock music wishes it was as popular as baseball
@John Wayne literally EVERY older generation has said thay about EVERY younger generation. Do you not see the loop you are contributing to?
@@hbrandon947 true you a great point but the way that this new generation act dumb and ridiculous TikTok sucks ass but great for marketing I'm more mad that the world is more PC then ever I wish it was 2011 that time was amazing
This happens at every level. Small music festivals and shows face the same dilemmas. I'm in the middle of this kind of stuff right now as both a player and a festival producer. Wild!
He speaks with convictions and strong belief in himself, I respect that.
I really appreciate his emotional maturity and empathy, he seems like a good dude.
At Aftershock I saw City Morgue, Ho99o9, and Bloodwood, and they all ruled.
I think an Avenged Sevenfold and Suicideboys concert would actually be highly successful. Would be amazing tbh
Literally facts
You gonna ask ya mom to buy you dem 300 buck GA A7x tickets bro?
Run this comment to the moon!
@@bjorneriksson107 mom already said I could go!
A7x is my favorite band of all time and $B are my favorite hip hop artists so hearing Matt even mention $B let alone try to collab/tour with them was fucking nuts man 😅
I remember seeing Run the Jewels at one of the Aftershock fests up near the top of the main stage and they made an instant fan with me.
I think Turnstile is pushing rock further than any newer band has in a while. Hopefully it’s a sign of a new rock revolution on the horizon
Hell yeah they were great live
Sorry they aren't pushing anything they r ass.
they just sound like a hardcore band i dont really understand the hype. could you explain what you see?
@jacob minnish nobody understands which means they r being pushed hard by their record company. I dont know anyone who thinks they r actually good
@@jaylewis6565 not true, the difference is they actually write good songs with good hooks and melodies. There is actually singing and a depth to them I’ve never seen in a hardcore band. If you know of another one let me know, cuz Turnstile is the first new rock band I’ve loved in so long.
I saw Rammstein 2022 in Los Angeles. It was SO fun and fucking awesome!!! They put on such a great show ans performed for almost 3 hours!!! I was in the nosebleeds but worth every penny. I would kill to see Rammstein again❤ or collaborate with other metal bands❤
Hell Yeah! Rammstein is my number 1 band!
My band Feast for the Crows is playing some Wimmer festivals this year! Couldn't be more excited for the opportunity!
As an old metal head I admit it’s not as easy to embrace newer music in general. I’m going to shows to see bands I’m not as familiar with to support the music and the bands same as I did in my 20’s only with more dollars to spend on merch. Turnstile grabbed me and I’m stoked to see them at Aftershock. I won’t be in the pit but I’ll still enjoy the show and the people. 🤘🤘🤘
Thing is it's not for older fans to support new music. That has to come from the youth or its DOA and mainstream wise youth does not care about bands in large.
I saw a post about louder than life having Turnstile as one of headliners. They said that it showed these festivals are dying and can’t afford actual good older bands. The boomer energy is off the charts at these festivals. I don’t even go to them anymore it’s all older people that don’t know how to have fun and complain about everything. I was screamed at and assaulted at one for trying to push threw the crowd to get to the one pit one year. But when I went and saw Turnstile with JPEGMAFIA I had the time of my life everyone was just enjoying themselves and the pit.
That's just sad
Turnstile embodies practically everything rock bands should be doing right now, it's a shame there are so few like them and that they fit more with music nerd festivals than with these boomer metalhead ones.
Hopefully we start seeing bands like Turnstile, Bad Omens & even The Hu start headlining festivals. Rock & Metal has such a dinosaur mentality and just can’t get out of it’s own way sometimes.
I don't think these festivals like Louder Than Life, Aftershock ,Welcome to Rockville are dying ,they get an average of 150,000 people over a four-day weekend Blue Ridge Rock Fest 2022?
VIR says they had 150,000 people come through the festival in total over the weekend, bringing a large economic impact to the area.
@@TheMetal213 bad almonds and Sleep Token are playing at Blue Ridge rock festival in Virginia
I’m so stoked to see A7X along side Turnstile and Incubus this fall. They aren’t that different from each other in my opinion but I could see a lot of people getting huffy about it.
Hell, Mike Elizondo who produced Nightmare also produced Glow On by Turnstile. It makes a LOT of sense.
@@feargm oh shit, I didn’t know that. That does make a lot of sense! Both killer albums
@@IngeDingy For real, amazing records!
Alexisonfire too
I saw A7X at welcome to Rockville in Daytona Beach Florida on Friday and wow they where incredible. Matt sound soooo good The years off touring really help Matt and the guys out on how they sound
Personally I feel like metal and heavy music in general need another annual festival.. Mayhem was awesome during its first couple years but then it sadly died.
And on the topic of mixing genres I do think if it’s done right that’s a cool concept.. City Morgue is a rap group that I feel would fit in perfect at a metal festival.
Turnstile , Superheaven , basement, t.u.i , incendiary , title fight, narrowhead, citizen, turnover etc. so many new bands that would be grear
The Internet is saturated with music. It's hard for most musicians to get their head above all of it.
Bro I just love the idea of a7x touring with rappers and the show variety and not having to sit through 3dg (which I’ve done to be front row at a7x) vert, future, $uicide, travy and so many more would match up great.
Blue Ridge Rock Festival has the best and most unique lineups consistently.
Great example of this happening was the ski mask tour that knocked loose was on. And people loved it! They went crazy for it, I’m sure it could work. Positive, even. Just needs more investment
A7X should put a show like this on. He could have all my credit card info if there was a show with A7X, Uzi, $uicideboy$, Rammstein, plus many smaller metal / rap acts
Suicideboys have been doing tours like this with turnsile, trash talk, ect.
I think it tends to be because rock and metal fans of a band are very loyal and the quality and longevity is there for these bands, even the “lower billing” can have In Flames and Killswitch that been around for decades, but hip hop can’t have that so much because firstly the genre is younger and a lot of them pass away or go to other ventures so early (p diddy for example) so the festivals have to find new artists because that’s basically all their is
Got Hardy at Rockville this year in a big slot
I wondered this for a while. Very rarely do you see any kind of hard rock band outside of a hard rock festival. And when they do they usually have a dedicated stage for the "hard" music. Everything's always so segregated.
You’re telling me, people who go see dogshit like “Juice-world” are going to stay and see something like Hatebreed, Slipknot, Pantera, Lamb of God? No.
It’s “segregated” because it keeps the purity of heavy music alive. Nothing wrong with that at all.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh At a festival, yes. Those are great bands, they can win over a crowd.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh You wanted to make a point with that comparison, but the irony is that plenty of rap artists have an overlapping audience with rock artists. You're only segregating them because you're used to the decades of cultural division between them. It's 2023 now.
@@ey3z4ya Again… it maintains Metal’s unique and unmatched aura. But I guess people want to ruin and taint everything nowadays, because y’know… it’s 2023!
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Metal is not a "special" by any means, its a genre full of self obsessed fans, who have this insufferable underdog complex. "Metal’s unique and unmatched aura" give me a break.. the only reason metal heads segregate themselves is because they are obsessed with this idea of being "unique" even though there's a million metal bands playing the same rehashed garbage riffs from 20-30 years ago.
The promoters dont know crap. TH-cam is showing that the two genres can intermix. We have seen soo many hiphop/rap fans get into metal/rock like A7X and I am sure there are metal fans that get into rap on youtube.
So many sick bands in underground. They’ll be there soon but it’ll prob take a few more years
I personally would love to see 311 or Incubus with Twenty One Pilots or Tame Impala. I definetly want newer bands and artists.
Damn right Shadows! You guys have been in the business for a long time. Tell it like it is and stick to it. Even if everyone doesn't agree.
This made me think about the blink tour with Lil Wayne. They had trouble selling tickets for no good reason.
A festival with Avenged Sevenfold x Playboi Carti x $uicideBoy$ x Falling in Reverse x Xavier Wulf x Slipknot x Homixide Gang would be amazing.
lorna shore killing it rn
mate, i've been a metalhead since i was a child and got into rap when i was like 13ish, i would absolutely fucking loveeeee to see tours with like avenged and suicideboys and shit like that. not quite the same thing but i saw MGK play at download festival in 2017 i think (when he was a rapper lol) and i went to watch purely cus i thought it would be funny to see how metalheads reacted to it, but the crowd was absolutely nuts, and same for twenty one pilots at download fest, the singer was like "sorry two guys and a piano isnt very rock and roll but lets have a good time" and everyone was loving their set.
I just want to tell people to check out Show me the Body's new album , trouble on the water.
Combichrist should be headlining. They are amazing live. Dawn of Ashes. Freakangel. Wage War. Ingested.
Older people have more money to buy tickets. A band with a young audience can't sell enough tickets. This doesn't apply to modern rap, because rap's audience nowadays are a bunch of middle-class and rich kids whose parents can pay for anything they want. They are tik-tok kids.
Also let’s be serious, if Eminem or Jay-Z or anyone else large like that who’s been making music for decades wanted to play a festival, they’d be headlining and we’d be seeing the same exact thing with rap as we do with rock at fests.
Also a couple quick things with this: The same age group goes to rock fests and those fests aside from like Riot Fest are stupid expensive.
The “TikTok kids” are also going to rock fests. Having a TikTok doesn’t mean you’re rich lol
Well its not just tickets since these festivals are weekend destinations you also have to pay for travel and lodging plus the tickets plus food and merch. Its a very expensive weekend. I guess if you have a RV its a lot cheaper but most people dont have one.
Well hell the ticket prices are just crazy, FUCK TICKETMASTER and all the fucking people ripping fans out. Music should be for everyone, not just some old boomers with shitload of cash who go see Iron Maiden or something. This is all calculated, you can see through it.
It’s a good point! Older people will pay to see those headliners, young people that go to festivals aren’t necessarily there for the headliners and I’d argue often are there for the bands near the bottom of the list! It has been that way through most of history imo tho… anyway, I’m sick of EVERYTHING BEING A FESTIVAL! I am glad to see regular concerts being booked again where I live!
There should be a middle man between the band and social media / ticktock they dont even have to tell them its for tiktok, its just for media / marketing. make the clip and upload. its the same thing as someone running their website or merch.
I'll send you guys my ep, if you wanna vouche for us and get some real Canadian rockbands on a featival
Don’t get me wrong. I love my legendary groups like Metallica, Korn, Megadeth, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, GnR, etc. but the rock scene has really done it to itself but hip-hop and rock have the exact opposite problems. In the rock world in every genre that is under rock, whether it be every genre of metal, punk, hard-core, hard rock about the mid-2000s something happened where I think you had certain people that really hated Nu Metal so in return you had a bunch of fans that later became bands focused on being so anti-accessible to newer fans that you have two generations of rock bands now that 80% of them will never know what it’s like to just do their band is their first job. There are countless interviews with bands that are over 10 years old where the guitar player in the drummer catch a ride to work together to go work construction somewhere.
In hip-hop it’s the exact opposite though. Yes they do make room for new blood where Rock does not but hip-hop doesn’t respect it’s legends at all. Dr. Dre, 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, LL Cool J, Snoop, Ice T, Jay Z, etc. are constantly being torn apart by new artist, and the youngest fans of the genre. Because I think in hip-hop, it’s just been hammered into peoples heads that wants something is more than six months old then it’s really “old.”
And of course not everyone is like that there are a lot of classic hip-hop fans out there but 4 million classic hip-hop fans don’t mean anything to 60 million or 70 million hip-hop fans that don’t care about anything that came out longer than five years ago .
But at least hip-hop can say they’ve got 60 to 70,000,000 fans wear in the Rock world after Metallica and Ozzy Osbourne and Korn etc. Once all of them retire, I think Metall and Rock are probably primarily going to crawl back into this sad state to where you’re not going to see like it big band touring NBA Arenas in having two opening acts it’s going to be for bands in clubs, playing in front of 500 people. Yeah you’ll still have these giant festivals with 600 bands for four days on them but as far as an actual tour? I think the rock fans have completely been so focused on making sure nobody likes the music, and that nobody gets paid that they’ve done everything to stop the life out of it.
I think younger rap fans or new rappers are starting to respect legends rapper now. These younger fans who were into *mumble rapper* like Pump back then now respect J.Cole, Eminem lol Also you have to realise this is not 2017 Soundcloud Rap Era anymore when then they anti-establishment & old guard hate them. J.Cole's 1985 prediction is so accurate.
I don’t wanna go to a rock concert and see post Malone! I’m still getting over seeing Katy perry at warped tour 15 years ago!
Lol. 😂great point. I do not think many people would want to see Post Malone AND A7. That's the whole problem, just like M Shadows said
Breh shut up
would you consider bands like Jinger to be new band
My brother's up and coming band ASAVA is playing a few festivals this year check them out
Imo small bands should perform in big festivals and big bands perform on small AND big festivals, but small bands performing on small festivals won’t do any good to anyone, it’s quite literally a show thrown to waste. But let’s say there’s a 3 day festival, 3 big headliners for each day, and tons of smaller bands on each day before the headliners. people who have spent the tickets on 3 days and don’t want to waste it on only those 3 bands but instead they wanna see everything, which gives the smaller bands recognition especially if the small bands are there for a few years in a row (and some bands ofc spread to other festivals), people are gonna remember them too. Currently it’s like ”let’s keep big bands big and small bands small”
Most new blood isn't very good, frankly. The only artists I can think of that are "new" and move units are I Prevail and Turnstile (I think with Sleep Token we'll have to wait a year or two and see, even though I think the music is terrible I think there's a chance they end up being some fresh new blood), and they're already super high up on the very lineup in the thumbnail. We kinda already did all we can outside of invite artists that just don't belong on our stages making music that doesn't belong there (Post, Vert, etc).
EDIT: forgot about Spiritbox
I completely disagree with you. There are plenty of bands that if you look at the reactor-sphere in youtube, are transcending the genre. Soo many rap fans are getting into metal, even metalcore and more "extreme bands". Case in point: Slaughter To Prevail, Lorna Shore. Hell Tool is a MAJOR favorite on youtube. So is Deftones and Slipknot.
@@andrewvasquez7872 more than half of the bands you've mentioned are headlining these festivals and 20-30+ years old.
Also deathcore in general is both:
A. Mostly inaccessible shit
B. Never going to achieve real lasting mainstream success. You'll never see Slaughter or Lorna headline something LTL or WTR, or even getting close to that
@@Luissv72 what are you basing that on? Frankly I see plenty of people that I would have never thought into the genre now becoming into it because of youtube. The only reason those bands or any of the genre "will never headline something like LTL or WTR" is because of the exact problem that M. Shadows is talking about in regards to labels and promoters.
@@andrewvasquez7872 the fact that deathcore has been significantly bigger in the past and not gotten mainstream. Suicide Silence has been in the top 50 on Billboard multiple times and on Aftershock this year they're playing on the same level as Movements (a D Tier pop punk band) and could only just barely sell out a tour at like 1200 cap venues with heavy hitters in their scene Lorna AND Carnifex with them in 2022.
They're about to go on tour again w/Dying Fetus and Born of Osiris and haven't sold out a single venue as far as I can tell.
This stuff isn't marketable to a mass audience and never has been. Lorna got successful as a meme, to the general public they'd be a joke to be soon forgotten just like how they probably were for most people on TikTok (oh wow man make pig noises!). Sure it's exposure to the masses and probably created a few more metal fans, and I'll never discount how important stuff like that is
But to say they'll ever have the mass appeal bands like Slipknot, Tool, or Korn have is delusional. They could throw those Lorna/Slaughter on the headliner spots and promote them all they want, they're never filling a 40k person crowd.
People will leave before they come on the same way sizeable crowds left after PTV finished their sets on the I Prevail tour last year.
I'd say city morgue,ghostemane,Kim Dracula,Jeris Johnson at metal festivals would work
A great way to look at what’s popular is to look at the month listeners of bands on Spotify. Everyone in this comments are talking about Turnstile, and they only have 1.3mil listeners compared to Metallica having over 25,000,000 listeners. Guns N Roses have 25,000,000 as well. Now compare this to rap, all of the young rappers have 5x more than most rap legends.
I think that would be sick with uzi and a7X. I’m not even that big of a fan of either but holy shit let’s do something different and fresh. I’ve seen the same metal bands tour with the same metal bands for 20 years now
$uicideboy$ and A7X would go so hard i would fucking die holy shit. The fact he mentioned them blows my mind
Belmont, bring back title fight
This is so true, if we ever want heavy/more nuanced music to get where it needs to be then this needs to be encouraged.
Honestly its unfortunate that the older bands have been in those headlining slots for as long as they have. Thats coming from someone who loves all of those bands. Now that more people are talking about it, here's hoping we'll start to see a shift in these festivals.
He just needs to link up with a polka band. That would be different
Its cool if an old band can still play but when you still headline touring and your Motley Crew it’s like what in the actual fuck
Well I do respect what he is saying however I would not go see say Post Malone headlining a festival over Korn.I know he is more mainstream and popular than Korn is now but Korn is still pretty damn popular now and still release solid music.Point is a lot of metal heads would not go to something like that.Or they would go to see Korn then leave
Korn and Kendrick Lamar are playing Bonnaroo this summer 🤔
The real problem is the tickets themselves. Not everyone can afford to shell out $100+ and no one's going to if there isn't legendary names attached. Someone could organize a fest with like 20 under 10 year old metalcore/deathcore/hardcore bands and it would sell, if tickets were like 50 bucks but with the bs ticketmaster and live nation are pulling, the whole thing would fall apart. Industry is just too f*cking greedy now that virtually no one is buying the music. Used to be the artist dependent on live shows, now the whole business is dependent on live shows.
Idk man. From my perspective, media has alot more power bout this. I can see rap, r&b, pop got more stage so far. And Kids more into this kind of genre this day..
This kind of dodged the question, there are plenty of new metalcore bands without bringing post malone or uzi vert into the conversation. I guess the answer would be similar, they won't sell tickets.
I do understand the thing he’s talking about TikTok to a certain extent. And he is right there are other things you can do to where you don’t feel like you’re just following every little thing but at some point you have to realize that thing that you think is just for teenage girls isn’t it just for teenage girls, it’s for everyone, but because it wasn’t there when you were growing up, you just can’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.
OK, today in 2023 I’m pretty sure even for guys in their 50s that just wanted to get together and play cover songs at the local bar would even agree that having a TH-cam channel is a good idea because it’s something people can show their friends, and it helps get more people to the bar. Go back to 2008 when everyone knew what you two was but it hadn’t turned into what it is today, I was in a band, and as someone who wasn’t just some guy that only listen to Metall and had a 16-year-old mentality and listen to other genres and was into other things I was constantly trying to talk the other guys in my band into having one of the girlfriends or one of our friends set a camera up somewhere and record us at one of our shows. And having a TH-cam channel. TH-cam had been around for over five years at that point, but in 2008 even there were people that didn’t quite see it for what it is today and I was trying to tell the guys that look, this is how a lot of people find the music now is through TH-cam. I tried explaining to them that every young guy that I worked with instead of buying CDs or finding music the way that it was done in the 90s that most of the younger guys if they want to show me a new song they would just go to TH-cam. But of course everyone looked at me and since I listen to hip-hop and watch the NBA in the NFL this is all things that led to them having like a band meeting that was an intervention for me about my love for sports and hip-hop and that was kind of the last straw and I left the band. Fast forward two years later one of the guitar players is in a new band and they were actually doing pretty well and I saw him on Facebook sharing the bands, TH-cam video in 2010. Hell, if for nothing else, I really wanted to be able to show people when they have great my band was and I couldn’t even do that because these assholes we’re thinking TH-cam with some things only 13 year old girls watched.
I kid you not every time we would talk about how we were going to get our music out. You would think everyone had just watched some documentary about Metallica and we’re going to go to the studio and make a demo tape and make a set copies and start sending them to people . Look by this time CDs for already dying like music had gone digital and the band was really good but there was no one in there that I had an ally in that understood anything about the music business and everyone in there was stuck in 1985, so yeah, I kind of feel the same way about TikTok but if I ran a band. You’re damn right the band would have a fucking TikTok.
Just speaking for myself as a 49 yr old metal head of course anything new I'm gonna compare it to what I grew up on. And honestly I would love to hear something new, fresh and different. But I prefer artists that play or sing with their soul. Something sincere and you can feel in your bones. Not some band that unfortunately the industry are using as puppets in their pockets. And I don't care if someone has a famous father ,mother, cousin whatever that's famous. If the music has substance and soul then it can stand on its own. And to me all I've found is Vended
Thank God I got into metal when I was 17-18 years old not knowing anything about it. So I had no preference, wasn't biased at all
If you like Vended but want something more visceral try Tallah, they're like old slipknot but fresh and modernized.
It won't have new bands if I still find younger rock fans still think old music (which they show old rock bands) is "real/good music" while today's music is "fake music".
MGK, Yungblud are as newest but everyone hates them now. I find it wild that kids who once were into them in 2019, 2020, 2021 now hate them.
It's difficult for new rock act to be love or popular these days. The reason Turnstile is loved is because they're a PART of rock culture at the first place & they know rock culture.
Maybe I don't understand the industry at all, but why not try one of these weird bookings (A7X and Lil Uzi Vert for instance) for 5 dates? You don't need to book a 50 date tour to test something out. Only headwind I can think of is marginal cost per show is much higher for a smaller number of shows.
I'm down for supporting newer rock and metal bands. I just find a lot of them are super generic anymore. That being said i don't feel that way about all newer bands, but they're far and few in between.
If I could see cannibal corpse , Madball, and lil uzi vert on the same ticket I’d be fucking ecstatic.
If new bands want to headline over Baby Boomer bands, they need to step their game up.
This is going to be a problem really soon. Metal and rock festivals are going to die off, if new bands don’t get bigger pushes and top billing. Obviously, there’s the issue of not giving a band like say Metallica the headliner position over some smaller/younger band. But Metallica isn’t going to be around forever. Ozzy isn’t going to live forever. Kiss are washed up and finally retiring after a long history of “this is the final tour!!” tours. There are good and great young bands out there. Code Orange for example. Or Ghost. And many more. Yes, we will all miss the legendary bands and favorites. Who won’t. You can blame the aging fan bases, promoters or bands themselves, blah blah blah. One thing is certain there’s a major problem waiting to be solved.
$b a7x would be insane
I agree, it does, but not fucking SoundCloud Rappers and people like that.
Turnstile is the first new rock band in like 15 years or more I’ve been excited about. That’s the problem, there just aren’t really new rock bands truly good enough to push into the mainstream. So until that changes, I love that all these rock festivals are headlined by my favorite bands of the 90s and early 2000s, cuz that’s what I’m gonna pay for.
Rock has become a traditionalist genre.
this isn’t me being an anti rap elitist or anything but how is having someone like post malone headline a rock festival gonna help anyone?? post malone (who has 50 million monthly spotify listeners btw) doesn’t need any more exposure so why should we take the headlining spots away from bands like slipknot just to give it to another artist who’s just as successful lmaoo that literally doesn’t help any smaller bands and honestly, it seems disrespectful for something like that to happen.
My exact thoughts
This is a very short sighted view of the situation. Post Malone would bring a lot of new people to the festival that normally aren't exposed to the world of rock and metal that you're used to existing in. They're going to be walking around checking out bands just like everybody else. You NEED new and young people to get into the genre or else every festival will just be grey haired old people.
@@mechanicalhorus4505 exactly
Because he's respected in the rock community, that's why
See you guys at aftershock
What bands? There aren't any equivalents that will sell tickets, that is just reality.
The music industry has killed rock bands, name me a rock band formed in the last 10 years who has name recognition equal to even the worst bands of the 90s or older, I will wait...
What about A new band with older fellas? BTW M. Shadows is like 40 so is he saying he's not gonna be playing in ten or twenty years?
Metallica really had a chance to promote upcoming new bands and artist back during their Orion Fest but really dropped the ball.
I think fall out boy and MGK was a good example
I will buy 100 tickets to suicide boys x avenged sevenfold........ Please make that happen 😢
Metallica has been touring with Greta van fleet, say what you want about them but they are young and obviously rising stars
Avenged and suicide boys would slap
Doesn't always have to be the same bands, but for me personally, I can't stand rap, so that's gonna be a no for me. But hey, I'm just one person.
I love the false dichotomy presented here wherein the only choices are to bring rappers on tour or bring the 10 established bands that everyone brings on tour, as if there isn't an ocean of bands in between.
Look at all the newish bands Metallica took out on tour over the years - including A7x - and in the process built so many careers - including A7x.
A7x could do that if they want to - but they don't.
They just took pussy riot and spiritbox out but go on
Young bands and artists need to start creating truly great, memorable music if they want to make a long term impact, not just cute flavor of the moment forgettable dribble
Why would I go to see a rapper or any other genre at a rock/Metal festival 🤮
Just let rock and metal die
The industry is rigged - this is what happens. And most people attending festivals aren't diehard fans, and most diehard fans don't attend festivals because they're expensive, usually outdoors during the hot day, and most bands do a limited set. There is nothing appealing about seeing a band you like at a festival...
Thing is, new music sucks nuts and that's why they're not getting publicized.
There's definitely more to it than that though
@@troysmithfr Not to me there isn't. Bands that got famous and stood famous are like that because they are good
@@chelo4197 I mean, you don't have to like the music, but there's quite obviously more to it than just the quality of the music
This is a dumb take, there's lots of great new music. You gotta expand your horizons, try artists like Tallah or rappers like JPEGMAFIA, amazing music.
@@mechanicalhorus4505 Yeah, get beyond the radio
At the risk of sounding like an elitist. Its because modern bands suck compared to the old guys. Name one band from the last 10 years whose music is half a good and is half as relevant as the bands from the 80's-00's
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@@speluniarz-2045 hard 🧢 they're mid af
@@joshhanson6538 this and maybe Turnstile are the only bands I could really name that fkt the description and they already play 2nd fiddle to most of these headliners so we've kinda already done all we can.
Is full of top tier bands from the last years, you just need to know them first before saying they are bad
There's not one band I would pay to see anymore.
This is really sad, you gotta expand your tastes if you wanna have fun at shows again.
Why are content creators and some bands so desperate to tell metal fans that they have to like rap and pop?
M seems like he’s going through a psychedelic mid life crisis, dude is constantly contradicting himself in this interview.
Those are my exact thoughts. I’m hoping he snaps out of it soon, it’s natural for anyone at his age to get into that headspace but it has clearly effected the music too.
make some better music
as opposed to what?
They will be a jingle for NFT company
“I think Post Malone or Lil “Uzi Vert” should headline our Metal festivals”… No Matt. Sorry, but NO. Festivals like Aftershock are already getting infiltrated by shit like MGK, Ghostmane etc
It’s a METAL festival.
The reason a lot of us dont like the rap emo rock stuff is it all uses the same cadence!