Losing The Rev - How Did M Shadows Move On Professionally - Relationship w Brooks Wackerman - A7X

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  • M Shadows joined the Tuna on Toast Podcast with Stryker.
    M Shadows tells Stryker how he was able to move on professionally after such a terrible tragedy in losing the Rev, the great Jimmy Sullivan.
    M also tells Stryker what it's like working with A7X drummer Brooks Wackerman.
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  • @AHeroAlmost
    @AHeroAlmost 2 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    “We’re made to heal”..
    Never heard that before but that’s powerful ..

    • @mgtkmg
      @mgtkmg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah me either dude. But it came to me at the right time in my life. Hope you're doing well, friend.

    • @bobzmuda3940
      @bobzmuda3940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Made to Heal, Our Lady Peace, Spiritual Machines

  • @SeanWinters
    @SeanWinters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +314

    it looks like this video hasn't gotten much traction, but this interview really gives a good insight into the kind of person that Matt is. I would definitely love to have a beer with this guy, and it's good to know that he doesn't talk trash on his friends.

    • @jd0879
      @jd0879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matt seems like a cool guy but this interview was saying a lot without saying anything at all. There really wasn’t any details that they dove into on how they moved on professionally

    • @quentinutter5173
      @quentinutter5173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @JesseGMan7
      @JesseGMan7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Somewhat yes somewhat no. Celebrities always answer political, and are trained how act in the media. (Yes even rock and metal stars.) They unjustly got rid of Aaron imo.

    • @bhoms
      @bhoms ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My old band was fortunate enough to tour with Avenged and I can tell you first handed, Matt is one of the kindest and non egotistical people I’ve ever met in the music industry. Super welcoming and treats his supporting acts like friends.

    • @nickkduhh
      @nickkduhh ปีที่แล้ว

      I've talked over a beer with both Syn and Matt talking about life and it's surreal how humble and true to themselves they are

  • @bigtommy9715
    @bigtommy9715 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    I love when Matt talks about jimmy and keeps his legacy alive
    I bet jimmy would love the direction the new record is going

    • @niveous5392
      @niveous5392 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don't mean for this to come off as rude because they're their own musicians but you can definitely feel Jimmy's impact on their music and the new album feels almost like a tribute to him, more so than the 2 albums before this.

    • @bigtommy9715
      @bigtommy9715 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@niveous5392 jimmy brought that sense of random chaotic beauty to their music

    • @niklask7635
      @niklask7635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I honestly think Jimmy would have stopped HTTK, the stage and LIBAD from happening. His songwriting was way too good and unique for stuff like that to happen

    • @Scaider_
      @Scaider_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@niklask7635 Nah, that is just what YOU would have done lmao.

    • @gabietherabie
      @gabietherabie ปีที่แล้ว

      ⁠@@Scaider_well he’s not wrong bc think about it, if the rev never died and still wrote songs with them, those albums actually would’ve never happened. Because who’s in the studio writing the music has a lot to do with the outcome. Especially with Jimmy because he was more than a drummer

  • @nicandre7943
    @nicandre7943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    M.Shadows is such a laid back humble guy!! I love this dude as a person and as the amazing vocalist and frontman that he is!! 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @ashworthgames
    @ashworthgames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    foREVer

  • @slorr55
    @slorr55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Just listening to the end of Exist how he changes from different drumming styles and feels and still melds so well with the song, that says enough of Brooks

  • @JZJ7777
    @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I really praise them for being able to move on from such a tragic experience. I know it definitely wasn't easy to do that. On the other hand, Brooks has fit in perfectly.

    • @buriedyoux7393
      @buriedyoux7393 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? I mean come on. Just case they're famous means nothing. If any f ur family died tmrw ur be okay in moving on. Cause guess what? Gotta work to make money. Enjoy ur 3 days off for a death

    • @JZJ7777
      @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@buriedyoux7393 hey, this is what I think. Sorry if you can’t understand that. I didn’t say anything about them being famous or whatever.

  • @flavioanguiano8461
    @flavioanguiano8461 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    People have to quit comparing him to The Rev. We all know Jimmy is and always will be the goat. We should appreciate how great Brooks is and how much better the drumming is on The Stage album vs. Ilejay's Hail to the King drumming. I am so happy Brooks is with A7X.

    • @yetiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      @yetiiiiiiiiiiiiiii ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ilejay is still an absolutely phenomenal drummer, he just wasn't the right fit for sevenfold and what sevenfold needs to be great.

    • @evoxghiretti
      @evoxghiretti ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I never thought there was anything inherently wrong with Hail to the King's drumming. It's very obviously not Jimmy who did it because theres none of those ridiculous styles in a song (Latin in Almost Easy for instance) but I'm pretty sure that was the point of the album. To make a nice simple fun album. There's nothing wrong with it, but it doesn't stand out. It doesn't have a song like Nightmare with a crazy opening, or no crazy solo like in Beast and the Harlot. I just think it was a solid drumming effort.

    • @Kyrannasaur
      @Kyrannasaur ปีที่แล้ว +4

      His drumming in Hail to the king is exactly what the record called for. Let’s not forget, it was a heavy metal record tipping caps to the old school guys and not a prog record! But I see what you’re saying

    • @evoxghiretti
      @evoxghiretti ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kyrannasaur Yes, but there's not even a little bit of fun in it. It's very precise and very minimal in terms of fills. I'm thinking the beginning of Nightmare, when the drums pushes the song forward. It's mysterious and even a little scary. With pretty much every song from HTTK I hear it being fun to play, but to listen to it's uninspiring. I personally can't think of much unique drumming except maybe Shepard of Fire. Not a bad drumming, just not anything outside the box. Which may be what they were going for, but that doesn't mean much. None of them sound like The Stage, Paradigm, Nightmare, or Second Heartbeat.

  • @brianmilburn1154
    @brianmilburn1154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    RiP Jimmy! I have a drumstick you thrown to the crowd. You are loved and missed

    • @indibrou6664
      @indibrou6664 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Whoa. really bro? Damn!

  • @mikeyevans5331
    @mikeyevans5331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Miss jimmy R.I.P brother

  • @juliesmith3449
    @juliesmith3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Don't worry Rev, we are still true to you. A7X the REV years will always be the best. foREVer X

  • @terrymunoztrujillo483
    @terrymunoztrujillo483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We're mad to heal, but the scar and the pain remain. RIP Rev.

  • @kadeknova9440
    @kadeknova9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Matt voice is masterpiece

  • @FullFrontalExposure
    @FullFrontalExposure หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matt you’re a good dude! I’m glad I grew up with your music! Thank you for all you do!

  • @deadmetal8692
    @deadmetal8692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The Rev was the creative heart of A7x.

  • @craigjones3506
    @craigjones3506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There will never be enough Matt interviews

  • @TargetHHH101
    @TargetHHH101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hes right about the stage when I first heard that song I thought I was listening to a lost track with The Rev.

  • @blvdes
    @blvdes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love these guys

  • @RavenAtDawn
    @RavenAtDawn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see M Shadows is rockin that Mike Shinoda merch. Nice!

  • @vitoriamagalhaes5777
    @vitoriamagalhaes5777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    From a fan perspective, he fitted right in. I mean, not the greatest fan of Hail to the king, so when the stage came out I didn't really know what to expect. But damn. I bought it as soon as it dropped (and was available in my country) and I can't really express how much I love it. I mean, besides httk I love so so so much all your discography, I really do. But to me, The stage is a masterpiece. And I know you guys keep changing and exploring, but it feels like his style matched greatly with yours. I am def a fan 😬 waiting for a tour in Brazil, maybe, please??

    • @rafaelcasa316
      @rafaelcasa316 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ele é ótimo, mesmo, mas eu gostava mais do Aryn. Tinha uma pegada mais metal, mais pesado ao mesmo tempo muito fluida. Coisa de quem tem muita tecnica...
      Mas, aparentemente, ele não era um cara muito facil de se lidar, e estavam tendo proplemas de ordem pessoal com ele. Achei uma pena sua demissão. Puta moleque burro. Deveria ter se comportado e estaria ainda numa das maiores bandas de metal da atualidade.

  • @shannonmagann9009
    @shannonmagann9009 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    beautiful.

  • @damageinc81292
    @damageinc81292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Props to portnoy for filling in

    • @williamboyle8918
      @williamboyle8918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They couldnt wait to rid of him tho.

    • @TT-df9hp
      @TT-df9hp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Portney's too good to be in Avenged Sevenfold, waste of a great drummer.

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TT-df9hp LOL

    • @kontorukun3790
      @kontorukun3790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TT-df9hp too "OLD" to be exact & Arin was too young. But Brooks perfectly fit with them

    • @marbella135
      @marbella135 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamboyle8918 did we ever find out why though?

  • @willthomas5953
    @willthomas5953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Damn he was a beast

  • @hermunkulus
    @hermunkulus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Saw this in my recommended by chance. What Matt is saying here reminds me a lot of what Dave Grohl and co are dealing with now with Taylor Hawkins' recent passing.

    • @jd0879
      @jd0879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Difference is A7X were in their prime and FF are passed their prime. FF will probably call it a day

    • @hermunkulus
      @hermunkulus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jd0879 most likely. It’s sad all around.

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i like how Matt was wearing Post Traumatic hat. thats because M Shadows and Mike Shinoda are friends, you can see them at the Hollywood bowl of how they respect each other.

  • @blegh.3403
    @blegh.3403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Rev was my biggest idol growing up. I haven’t touched a drum set since he died.

    • @kylewalter3932
      @kylewalter3932 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yo man. Get back on those drums. Honour the memory and make magic out of it.

  • @jacobcasler8684
    @jacobcasler8684 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The revs death was a gash in the band's leg, but Brooks Wackerman is the scar from which the wound healed really well so to speak. While Brooks is not the same drummer, he still holds a candle on level with the revs abilities and great standing in the band.

  • @mariobtron5907
    @mariobtron5907 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how he's wearing a yeezus shirt.

  • @mattsealey4314
    @mattsealey4314 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Brooks being a drum god helped lol

  • @COOKIEBUTTERBEATS
    @COOKIEBUTTERBEATS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️🙏

  • @MindfulnessGamer
    @MindfulnessGamer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The world has changed so much since the rev has died when I think about it.

  • @user-gl4qw6ow4b
    @user-gl4qw6ow4b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    R.I.P.

  • @michaeldrake98
    @michaeldrake98 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see the Shinoda hat! ✊🏻

    • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
      @Rusli1659LPSoldier 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you mean the Post Traumatic logo in it?

  • @jesush7016
    @jesush7016 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone watching in 24 after their tours?

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope Brooks never leaves Avenged Sevenfold.
    R.I.P. The Rev

  • @joee1213
    @joee1213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Still to this day, their best album IMO. Nightmare was complete.

  • @SMASHtheCAN7410
    @SMASHtheCAN7410 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Think about the music Jimmy could’ve made if he didn’t pass away 😢

  • @kevinammann5042
    @kevinammann5042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No mention of arin ilejay who was drumming on hail to the king either, and was subsequently ushered out of avenged when they brought in wackerman

    • @will667
      @will667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I stopped the video right when they mention Brooks. I don't know what shenanigans went on backstage but a simple mention along with "but that didn't work out" would have been the decent thing to do. Same with Portnoy who filled in temporarily.

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@will667 He's talked about it over and over. The interviewer specifically asked about getting over The Rev's passing and Brooks Wackerman.

    • @JZJ7777
      @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The interviewer didn't bring him up. There's literally no reason why Matt would've mentioned him unless the interviewer did.

  • @Fvneral_moon
    @Fvneral_moon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I wonder if they get tired of getting the "rev" question.

    • @Kevin-nt8fm
      @Kevin-nt8fm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I think it can be seen as a way of honoring the legacy of his best friend.

    • @randomuser-vs3oe
      @randomuser-vs3oe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's probably gotten a lot easier for them to talk about him since its been over a decade now. They were non-stop asked about him like a year or two after his death, and you could tell they really didn't want to talk about him since they were all still grieving.

    • @sicknasty3565
      @sicknasty3565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kinda like how Dave grohl is always asked about Kurt. It's been 30 years and they still ask about him

    • @JZJ7777
      @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว

      They probably have.

  • @timhick6
    @timhick6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Punk rock silliness?

  • @minikame2272
    @minikame2272 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "It's crazy that you don't get to call that guy anymore"
    This sentence probably sounds really dumb to anyone who has never lost anyone, like it's a poorly articulated half-thought, but that's a genuinely captured thought and feeling. You think when you lose someone, it'll be this long and protracted grief that eventually goes away, but it's not always like that. You might feel strangely fine for a bit, sooner than you thought. But then you'll hit up this amazing restaurant and think "holy shit I need to tell X about this" and then... you remember X is dead. And you can't quite grasp it most of the time, but for a moment you do, with the phone in your hand and their contact page open on your phone. It's still there. But you won't get an answer. And you're a grown ass man who's trying not to cause a scene or dragging down the mood while everyone around him is having a good time.
    For me, X was my mum who passed while I was in my 20s - she was young, and just had shit luck and an encounter with cancer. For some of you, it might also be a parent, or a best friend, a sibling... a cat.
    I forgot why I started typing. I had a point, I swear.

    • @SaviorQuest618
      @SaviorQuest618 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @NocturnalNick
      @NocturnalNick 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, sounds shallow, but that exact things is what cuts so deep every day

  • @6stringshredder
    @6stringshredder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do I get tuna on toast though?🤔......

    • @MrMann-gt1eh
      @MrMann-gt1eh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why is this a problem for you? I eat tuna sandwiches (only on toast) twice a week. Use a big serving fork.

    • @thelonewolf7443
      @thelonewolf7443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tuna on toast? How about you go Chicken Salad on Rye with a side of potato salad and a cup of tea! #Costanza

  • @jayk6098
    @jayk6098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't like tuna. Figured youtube needed to know.

    • @lucascova7875
      @lucascova7875 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fair enough

  • @clayrester9342
    @clayrester9342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everytime i hear Brooks name, i think about that Kids React to A7X video... and they talk about the guys stage names... and one of the kids laughs at how silly of a made up "stage name" Brooks has... haha

  • @taskforceghost700
    @taskforceghost700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    .

  • @melasvarco4791
    @melasvarco4791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No mention on Arin? Wow

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The interviewer didn't ask about him. What is up with you people making a big deal about him? He wasn't important at all.

    • @JZJ7777
      @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would you expect Matt to bring him up if the interviewer didn't ask about him?

    • @JZJ7777
      @JZJ7777 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyInJapan He was important for the time he spent with them. I don't like people like you who say something like what you said. He literally saved them. They wouldn't be anywhere if it wasn't for him.

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JZJ7777 Lol you are delusional. They wouldn't have missed a beat even if he wasn't in the band. Oh and I don't give a shit who you don't like. You don't matter.

  • @jeanrodriguez5785
    @jeanrodriguez5785 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    avenged sevenfold murió después de nightmare ☹ después d ahí ps

  • @thunderfan77
    @thunderfan77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Wow, no mention of Mike Portnoy for helping them record and tour on that record? A7X reached out to Mike and he happily stepped in at a critical time to get them through that transition. Big props to Portnoy. The blatant lack of mentioning Mike's contribution was disrespectful in this interview.

    • @fajarlesmana3107
      @fajarlesmana3107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sad but true

    • @bkb757
      @bkb757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I mean, the interviewer moved on to a different topic, so Matt didn’t have much of a choice but to go along with it. Conversations never go “according to plan”.

    • @LorenzoC2314
      @LorenzoC2314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Watch the whole interview before saying nonsense. He talks about Mike and Arron as well.

    • @jd0879
      @jd0879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I thought this interviewer was really bad, instead of diving deeper when the topic was getting interesting he just completely pivoted to a surface level question about Brooks which we’ve heard a million times

    • @ThePizzafication
      @ThePizzafication 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soft

  • @peepeepoopoo8006
    @peepeepoopoo8006 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would be pissed if I killed myself and my friends stayed in denial and didn't realize my last song was a suicide note

  • @HattieJosh
    @HattieJosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sell out with me oh yeah

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grow up

    • @HattieJosh
      @HattieJosh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnnyInJapan I too encourage scams

  • @sheldonlee2821
    @sheldonlee2821 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They just skipped arin illejay 💀💀 well he didn’t have any impact anyways

  • @TheKiddos77
    @TheKiddos77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Portnoy smokes brooks and no mention of portnoy? How disrespectful.

    • @hashbrowngaming69
      @hashbrowngaming69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      No he doesn’t, lol

    • @TheKiddos77
      @TheKiddos77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hashbrowngaming69 opinions are like assholes everyone has one. So tell me Lucas which techniques of Brooks do you prefer over Portnoy’s? Do you think Brooks has better compositional skills in comparison to Portnoy or does Brooks have better tools in is drummer tool box? Do you play drums?

    • @biggie4380
      @biggie4380 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They have praised Portnoy over the years for stepping in when they needed him. The interviewer moved on to talk about Brooks. There is no disrespect here at all. Don't turn something into something it isn't.

    • @timsheffield5564
      @timsheffield5564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@biggie4380 00

    • @davidpalmer8419
      @davidpalmer8419 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ahhhh no. Brooks is a monster behind the kit

  • @lpGUNNEandRMAGGOTj
    @lpGUNNEandRMAGGOTj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mike shinoda's hat lol