NO SPARK, NO START, NO PROBLEM! IGNITION SYSTEMS
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- ENGINE CRANKS BUT DON'T START? DON'T WORRY!
ERIK THE WRENCH IS HERE, WE TEST FOR FUEL, TEST THE COIL AND DISTRIBUTOR / IGNITION.
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oh my bad, a 4cyl coil is not 1.6Ω like the 8..., it is 3Ω for the 4
Bro you explain stuff perfect and my 72 Buick Skylark literally started bogging out at 30 miles an hour like it was getting too much fuel what's your thoughts Could It Be Me screwing with the front needle adjustment too much out of whack or timing too far advanced
I've replaced modules, pick ups, breaker plates , you know stumbling around not knowing how I fixed it, but I got pretty good at doing what I didn't know. You've made it make sense to where I can at least understand it as much as a person like myself understands anything. It might not be clear as day to me , but at least it's not a dense fog.
Thanks for doing the public a good service.
You the man.
people overcomplicate everything.... sometimes intentionally, sometimes people are taught by, well, not every dr is good dr, not every mechanic is good mechanic, every teacher is not there because they love to teach, most teachers or dr's or lawyers or mechanics are just there for a pay check, and they only know enough to get by......... a big help was, my auto teacher in high school made us draw every part. it didnt have to be to scale, but it had to work, every jet passage or every hydro passage on a master, what ever it was, every bearing every ring it had to work.
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Nice!
I wasn't even looking for help like this. I was looking how to wire a coil in a 76 vw 1600.
I watched the whole video because of the way you were explaining everything that could be wrong.
Good freaking job!!!
I man if i can figure out exactly what I did right with this one video that almost carries the whole channel I could quit my job lmao
@10xH .
A lot of guys DIY watch videos to get an idea how tough it will be.
I'm not good at diagnostics so when you showed and explaind all the things that could be bad, I t helps with that decision.
Plus the calm and methodical way you presented yourself.
Straight to the point. Well done. Thanks and God bless
You to to you and yours!
Fighting with my 1959 Massey Ferguson, with this problem. Thanks for your video, it's a great help.👍
sweet! i restored a 63 case few years back!
This is the smartest mechanical genius I ever listened to
I want to sincerely thank you for this video. I have been catching hell trying to get my Charger to start after letting it sit over a year. I had it in my mind that it was the fuel pump. Then I was thinking I didn't install it right. Could not get it to start. Was thinking of replacing the distributor, ignition module.. etc.. just guessing. Your video DID THE TRICK! I ohmed out the coil just like you showed and compared it to two other coils (one brand new) and that was the issue. That 440 is running like a champ now. I cannot thank you enough.
RIcky Rick my pleasure!
This guy is one of the best they are around as far as explaining and showing you a video on a like this it would be very easy to work on anything after watching his video thanks Tracy Davis
Nice work man ....... before I pull my carby off I'll test my coil . You have helped me today , thank you Erik the Wrench
how did it go and what was it?
They man thanks my 1969 Charger 440 magnun, worked well, parked it the garage, all of a sudden no spark, with your video checked the coil with the volt meter, it was bad, swapped it out now back to normal. Cheers awesone dude, saved me a ton of money. Great respescts from Canada
lol my great grandpa snuck in here from Canada as a flying trapeze in the circus, they should have built a wall. buahhhhh. Im not left or right, all I can say is, bush got elected said he was gonna build an electric fence, the only place they didnt do the fence and monitor system was in the only two places you could actually swim across the river..... Then trump in 2002 on Tv was asked why he dropped out the race, he said he wasn't gonna beat bush. he was asked when will we finally have a Libertarian president, he said when their ready for me. and I quote "George bush went on Fox News, said he was gonna build a fence, got all the redneck votes, so im gonna go on fox as a republican and say im going to build a wall". sheeple!
65 corvair how do I test the voltage regulater ?
Dude this is one of the best troubleshooting videos I've ever seen you're awesome dude!
Logic and reason, its actually easier than just going through motions and collecting a pay check, and a lot less frustrating lmao
Well done, full of good diagnostic info, and simple.
thanks, this channel started as me setting strait some shit talk, and I found it fun, yet this video, I almost deleted, and so far its still my biggest hit, lmao! I been hanging in here on a thread, but i do have a shit ton and a half of videos on the editing block ready to dump on youtube steady for a while, finally found the time, well, here goes nothing... thanks again!
thxs that was explained better then anyone I have heard or watched bden fighting with dumb amc jeep wiring system and I think this will help more then people showing me on that system
Perfect tutorial. Having the exact same problem
Thank you for making a good video. Nobody can manage to break things down to regular people knowledge
most people are taught how to do their job, not how it actually works.
You are a very extremely intelligent guy. Your ao precise and accurate,
with logic devices yes, now if I can just figure people out i just might make a couple bucks one of these days lol
Only real ass people can admit when axing themselves right in the face.
Great work dude!
Yeah that deodorant is ok
see I missed that, I thought if you never do stupid shit you never build a tolerance to pain to continue doing stupid shit lmao
so much value, in a concise and entertaining video! 👍👍
Jonathan Clark
I got a 1990 Dodge with a V6 cranks no spark
THANK YOU, another youtuber had me thinking my coil was fine….. it was at 8.6.
Thanks for the effort you put into this video! Took my 76 Ford dump truck to the mechanic but every one of them in town is to lazy to diagnose like this. They just say to run it until it won't then bring it in. If you want it done right sometimes you have to do it your self.
Got the one on pertronix and vacuum gauge power tuning is part two. A vacuume gauge will.tell.you most mechanical issues. The next one in putting out is on a leak down test. A leak down test.is the only way to pinpoint / prove any mechanical issue before proceeding and not just guessing but nobody wants to take the time! But it's fool proof! Even times in shops you would tell the customer it is usually this part but it's a gamble on you if we don't do a leak down test first, and 9 out of ten say no problem just change it and if it don't work well teat it????? All you can do is suggest the right way, if they think they know best or have a horseshoe up their bum, great more money for me lo!
Nice. Me too, a failed coil was hard to diagnose as they are fairly reliable and it was intermittently going bad until it took a crap on my PCM powered nautique middle of the lake.
some people have luck and guess right 9 out of 10, like that one guy you know that some how wins every damn raftle or contest lmao, and some of us what can fuck up will fuck up so im quick to start right off with a vacume gauge then a full mechanical leakdown to pinpoint any issues found, then and or a full eletrical leak down...
most the time....
id say even if you hit 9 out of ten,
twenty miniuts of fiddeling on all 10 is less time and money wasted than the one free repair that was unnessary based on false diagnosis!
Great video. Picked up a lot of info.
very detailed information good video 👍👍
Bro thanks for the info, i very sure i cant not make my friend car wotk i replaced coil and have same problem i remove my control module and buy new one and bang bro you are so smart thanks again
just sharing my research Thank You !!
Great video lots of detail thank you
I hack it lmao
I know this video is great. I'm just so new to fixing cars. Will watch till I understand.
www.ironhammer.info/ih.html here are links to jus about all youll need to know IH wise. It helps to look at the diagrams and what have you...
I have a citi golf with the same problem and i just bought a new coil but atleast now i know what could be wrong... thanks mate
Well if your just changing parts without testing your next part is your crank or cam position sensor. It won’t spark if it’s bad
Great video Erik! Haven't yet gotten the P/U to run yet, but I now know the coil was bad.
whats next on the truck!
Great video man!
Great vedio bro I learned so much!😁
i love to learn
Friggin awesome video dude!
Cheeers from Norway :)
Have to keep Slepnar on the road, or off! ha!
Thanks for taking the time to make a brilliant video
close buahhhh
Helpful video man. Used your tips for a boat with a V8 305. Helped a lot! Thanks
Lot of help thanks for share't good video keep up...Bless day
You too! I will have a lot more soon, got tied up paying bills lol
Awesome video 👍
very very good info video thanks
That's magnificent of you nice ideas pls keep it up!!!
Thank you! I will be adding a lot more soon, I have a pile of them lmao.... I finally have some time carved out !
this is great information thank you man.
truction to fix a no/fire due to a bad pick up coil in the plate of the distributor?
great info,love his concise and informa
second vid late response!!!!
I think I finally found my future hubby!!! you ROCK!!
I like him too and he's not even my type. He sounds like a clever dude.
@@shannonsinderson7417 If the ladies don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy... ;)
almost out of duct tape!
very informative cheers man
Cool informative Video !
thank you, about to do a lot more
thank you man looking to buy a corvette but seller says it has a no spark condition def gonna buy
Excellent explanations
logic works lol
This Cat knows his homework.
Clever man! 👍
I just try to remove the over-complications! Turn life itself into a chopper bobber or a rat rod and everything makes sense Ha!
Hello from Suwannee County Florida
i been all 48 on the main land, while i did apreciate it dead winter, that humidity makes every bone in my body ache lol
Good video. Very informative. You make it short , sweet and simple. Now I fully understand the coil and distributor functions and how to properly test the ignition system.
I had a new Ford Ranchero with a 351 that stopped running while driving down the road. I could smell the gas, so I knew it wasn't fuel and surmised it had to be electrical. Pulled the distributor cap and didn't see anything wrong at first. But after checking it for the third time, noticed the little rubbing block on the points was missing. I'd never seen that happen before or since to any vehicle.
This seems to be a huge problem with the rubbing blocks on new points, better off new old stock... I love them things! I was gonna drop a Cleveland in my 80 ranger b4 I found my scout!
Yeah that is definitely a good video thanks
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Damn good video man!
thanks!
would of loved to see him install the part & see it start wish i would of seen this video before i sold my step van brought it to an asshole mechanic who didn't know shit but this gentleman really knows his stuff 2 thumbs up
Thanks, and the install is in the next video, I need to put a "card" link..... Im getting ready to put my 71 metro back together next....
PROBABLY YOUR IGNITION STARTER SWITCH IN THE STEERING COLUMN,CHECK YOUR IGNITION FUSE AND ECM FUSE SEE IF THEY LIGHT UP WITH A TESTING LIGHT WHEN YOU TURN KEY ON.IF THEY DONT THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM.
Sorry, my eyes glazed over when I noticed there were no points. Great information for those with newer rigs (1975 and up). Yup, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around electronic ignition. Eventually I'll have to bite the bullet and buy something from the mid 70's and maybe even the 80's! "If you're gonna be poor, don't also be helpless".
I am all about points, nothing wrong with points, I prefer points,
this is just what my broke behind had on the shelf when my distributor wore out.
the easy answer,
electronic ignition is exactly like points, except, the points do not contact. they arc at a very low volt/amp, not enough to get the coil to trigger the spark,
so it has a little capacitor to step up the voltage.
nothing has changed in cars in 50 years (other than vvt)
its all the same except us mechanics have been replaced with computers, and 9$ an hour parts changers lol
and a capacitor is triggered
Most excellent, learned a shit ton I didn't know. 🖖🇺🇸
subbed, it is like an educational show for adult children, totally entertaining... "hit myself with this hatchet" hysterical!!
life happens!!!
Love it good shit
I need to do a lot more lijke this
Thank you erik
welcome!
Thanks very entertaining
I like it simple lol
This starter motor sounds like my Dad's old 1978 Australian Ford Fairlane. Interesting. I'm in New Zealand. Unfortunately, we don't have it anymore, and he's dead.
they made the 351 Cleveland down under for a while after they stopped making them here
Thank you
cool shirt man
Ohio Super Scout Nationals...
Dude a RadioShack multimeter! Never thought I’d see one of those again!
Would you believe someone just stepped on it, that’s what I get for doing favors lol. What pissed me off, is radio shack claimed bankruptcy. That means they don’t have to pay their debts, yet they tried to come after me for the remaining balance on my RadioShack card! Wait a minute, RadioShack falters on debt but says I owe them still. Ha! Cold day in hell!
I do miss being able to say put it on my account, still till they close, no card needed, just put it on my account....
I have an old radio shack battery tester that barely works, and you have a new subscriber for putting out the exact video i needed!
Excellent channel Subbed ! 👍🏻
stay tuned!
First time I've ever seen the inside of an IH distributor.
yeah dodge used the prestolite too, most parts are over the counter still they aint as obscure as people think.... They where just oveer built and you paid a lot more for it...
Good video. Thank you
I try ;)
@@TEN-TIMES-HARDER yeah i put a new distributor in my Ford F-150 1977 and I crushed it because I watched your video. Get'er done. Yeah you help me get through that bullshit of second guessing it.
Oh man I love you
sending some back at ya!
Perfect position for it to be stuck.... of course
got me dying
buahhhhhhhhh
hey you're good 😬✌
Did it fix the problem and generate a spark...
My 83 olds sound like that when I'm turning ignition but not turning over!!!
how bout now?
I was in grey 680 Kenworth. Almost to Joliet Illinois
Ok , could have crossed paths then, awesome!
Yeah I drove a tractor all last year, 48 States, so it’s a different concept of almost there lol
I have a new video on CB almost ready, and a huge rant on the industry and show how to get out of contracts and manhandle a DM lol
I liked driving a truck, but it is far to stressful to work 100 hours a week and be treated like a disposable endebchered servant lol and Working for a dispatcher was worse lol oh I’m getting fired up thinking about it lol man back in the day it would have been sweet,
You can say that about most jobs today, when it’s a big corporation your just a number, and the little guys are trying every shady thing they can think of to stay above water, but yeah, even the big company had me cheating the ELD and had me running without sleep most the time and That’s my favorite part of the day lolI can go on and on but honestly I’ll stick with the mechanics of it, Smart Trucking on TH-cam is awesome and every trucker should subscribe!
Right before Operation black and blue was the last I ever drove...
If I win the lotto I would take a loss to put them big guys under, I got out of it but a lot of people don’t understand the law and feel trapped, even though their contracts get tossed out every time, the other comanies still have to pay a lawyer to fight it so they won’t hire you. And it’s not going to change because truckers are dropping like flys because of the new regulations and how we can’t struke anymore, deregulation, woo woo , and they don’t care because they just keep bring in more work visas from places where they think its great because they are escaping horrible dictatorships and what have you. And we would do it to if they let us! So can’t blame them, but as long as someone will work for free, why would they pay us to do it! their is NO shortage of truck drivers, their is a shortag on truck drivers wages! Did you know that only one third of 18-65 able bodied Americans work and pay taxes! That means a third of us have to work here times as long for the same pay, while 2/3 live better than most of us for free! Can’t we just let the other 2/3 of able to work Americans work part of our hours instead of us working them hours and handing the pay away! Everybody wants pride nobody wants a handout. You don’t appreciate something you didn’t earn!
And what the problem really is, money talks!
Want to change the world stop looking to the politicians, look to yourselves, and research who owns the profits from the products you CHOOSE to purchase, and what they do with that money!
Remember also, if you don’t buy a crappy product, they will make a better one, or they don’t get your money! And look, I am Eric the wrench, I buy American tools. The best I can find. Not that I don’t own some great foreign tools, but they are not cheaper, and great quality, but we really only import stuff if it’s cheaper or we don’t have it. Because if you put the same tool next to each other on the shelf, I’m buying the one made here, you know why, because even if it cost more, I am not just buying a tool, I am buying a piece of America! And that money is putting a fellow Americans kids through school and food on their plates, and it buys them a bright future so they don’t have to live in a communists nightmare, or have to work like a dog just to live in poverty! You see Everywhere you go the people with the money only pay as much as they have to to keep you at work. Here we forms a huge Union, an American Union. Where all of us said we will not be wage slaves any more.
Look what our founders did in 1776. You can’t even boycott a product! Stop blaming left or right they are the same! As long as it is we the people, point that finger in the mirror!
Keep the shiny side up!
I have usually have my ears on channel 19, give me a shout next time
Thank you Erik!!
Very good and funny
life is funny ha! Thanks !
'85 Ford F150, 4.9L I6, 4wd. Intermittent missfires initially blamed on water in fuel. Then all stop and no spark. '85 has 2 electronic control modules...on screwed to distributor under the body and the 2nd on the passenger sided wheel well next to the starter relay. The first one can be tested and changed. Tthe 2nd is apparently vacuum switched. Cannot find testing instructions or replacement part. None available have vacuum line as part of plug-in. Your thoughts?
The second module is a vacuum sensor to control timing advance based on manifold pressure...
How you know what to set the meter at ? And what numbers you were suppose to get in order to tell if it was right or not?
Capt. Mike Allen I have the same question as well
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Hey Eric I must say you seem quite knowledgeable, so maybe you can help me ? After watching this video there’s a lot that comes into play in similar fashion with my 69 cougar I have crank no start no spark at the coil from either the coil or the plug wire a concern to me not knowing is I show 19 volts when the key is on at the positive of the coil not sure if that’s a good number I’ve tried switching up my points and condenser to another use set on another 69 cougar I have that has also sat for a while so I’m not sure if overtime these have gone bad too but still no spark I’ve checked wires and clean ground areas on the back of the starter solenoid and replaced the voltage regulator module I’m about to clean the ground to the engine block as I heard this could be a situation to no start even though it cranks over I have just bought a Pertonix to replace the points but sure if I should install it with that 19 V coming in at the coil when the ignition is on I don’t wanna damage anything on the pertronix what should the voltage be coming in on the positive terminal of the coil when the key is on and showing at the solenoid the same voltage? Please help thanks
so, right off the bat, think your meter is bad, check the battery... 19volts... that or you have dual batteries wired in series on accident... you should never get more than like 10 volts it has a big resistor to drop it down.. when you are cranking it over, it bypasses the resistor and gives it a straight 14 ish volts... for cranking, when not cranking it saves the points to run at 9.6 volts... the sure test, one end of volt meter to ground, and trace the circuit top down... probe the wire b4 and aft every switch or connector, and if the voltage is lower after any connection than b4 it, its a bad connection... just jump the coil straight to the battery and see if you got spark then, see if the coil powers up now, this will save you all day tracing wires if its just a bad coil. should be able to short the neg lead of coil to ground real fast zap, make it spark.... points can be bad new now days and its a 50 50 shot!!! so discharging the coil manually will be the easy test...
Get that mean cougar back on the road!!!
I replaced my uncle fuel pump, coil, filter, ecu, and the man relay! Still no crank! He has 1985 Dodge ram d150 318
no crank?
I'm thinking you tested a 1.5 ohm coil. So if I have a pertronixs 0.6 ohm coil, it should read 0.6? On the other test I only got 8.5 through the center coil wire.
the 4 banger here has a 3 ohm coil, the 8 has 1.6ohm across terminals, the main windings, the from post to main plug wire, should read 10.5, 8.5 is low like the coil windings coating failed, and its skipping or shorting past some of the coil...
I screwed up bro on my 65 stand, inline 6, I didn't tie down the battery so while driving, the positive to the battery touched the front support frame and melted the wire to the battery, not the car won't start. I fried something for sure, first I assumed it was the starter relay, I got a new one, not it. I tried a new battery still nothing, I don't have spark so I'm assuming I don't have power to the distributor, which is a HEI. What could it be? is there a way to bypass the resister wire and go direct to the distributor? did I fry the distributor or another wire? Dam!!! Rockie move man
yes so if power went to the body it had to get back to the neg terminal. this means the shortest easiest path. so if it went through the body it had to go through the ground strap that goes from engine to the firewall, through the engine, then to the negative cable to the battery.... so if the ground strap to the cab or body were corroded or missing it may have just went home backwards through the ignition switch, or the coil / distributor, frys computers even with a good ground half the time... So yes you can just hook it up straight to battery to test it and jump the starter, this will not be a problem, points last longer at 9 volts and its all they need, they still like 12 to start, thats why the resistor. if you dont have points you need to remove the resistor btw... so yeah check the ignition switch and jump it....
You can bet your ass! here is part 2 th-cam.com/video/0P_qU7I2n4Q/w-d-xo.html I should have titled it better, Ill add it to the end screen! thanks!
Hey I’m having a no start issue on my 1978 Porsche 924, I’ve replaced the faulty ignition coil (resistance measurements were off spec) however still no start, but I’ve noticed there’s 2 ballast resistors before the coil wich take the voltage down, I’ve measured them and the 1st one takes the voltage down from 12v to 8v and the 2nd one takes it down from that 8v to like 5.4V. This seems strange to me, as people say the coil needs 12v, do you think I should remove those resistors?
ok, on a points distributor, it runs off of 9.6 volts. you know how on the starter relay their is the bypass wire only on cars w/ points distributors.
well that will bypass the resistor and give full 12.6 volts to the coil, only when cranking. once its running it goes through resistor again. you must have a bad ballast resistor circuit , sounds like someone messed with it. also, you should be reading 9.6 and 12.6 to 14.6... not 8 and 12. so also check your meter is calibrated, your battery is good, and your alt is working, and you dont have any corrosion creating a false load on the switch or relay or any of the connectors. I will put a video out on electrical leakdown test, but your coil should be getting 9.6 volts except when you are trying to start it.
this is because if it ran at full voltage all the time, it would burn up the points, most of the wear on your points happens when your cranking then runs at a safe 9volts... it actually winds up making about the same spark because its still the same amperage, remember, its high amps that can kill you not volts... if you check my webpage in the IH section, its going to be universal information on most engines and wires, other than the colors and firing order... www.ironhammer.info/ih.html , and the more I think about it, Im not sure a 78 would still have points, so even weirder... their should be no resistor at all unless you have a points distributor. its possible it has some fancy dual points distributor. points are better, they just require regular maintenance..
What I have is a 351w, marinized! Have new pertronics flamethrower 2 0.6 ohm coil 45,000 volts, as recommended. on 200 ohm setting the positive to negative test settles down to 1.1...., replacing old flamethrower 2 0.6 ohm which won't settle down in that test, can fluctuate around 2.4 for a while and then around 1.5 for a while and sit still at 1.3 for a while and without breaking contact you could see any of this going on. The new flamethrower reads 10.0 or 9.96 on the 20K test to the main wire, while the old one reads 8.77. I've got gas and apparently no spark, but I also have a brand new pertronics coil and distributor. I'm losing it!
what is it in?
@@TEN-TIMES-HARDER1986 MasterCraft pro ski boat. Indmar conversion. 4-barrel Holly. 240 HP.
@@skidancin and have you tried jumping the coil right to the battery
@@TEN-TIMES-HARDER no... But I do have 12 volts at the coil and replaced ends on both wires to the positive on the coil. The engine originally failed while running at 35 mile an hour. It cranks nicely I checked spark from the coil wire, it looks yellowish instead of blue and it's a brand new coil as I was saying. I'd like to think there's something wrong with my brand new parts. I don't know what readings I'm supposed to have on a new pertronics coil. Best I got was 10 where you were looking for 10.5 on your application.
ten is fine,, is the distributor a tooth off? i assume its not a reverse spinning marine engine made for dual engine crafts....
you will need to chase each wire, check the connections, clean them, check resistance across them with the battery disconnected for resistance... clean the ground, test the battery and the altenators output,
and if its all good, and you dont have a faulty ignition switch, you likely got a turd that slipped past quality control...
so on the side marine engines are higher compression and need to run on at least 100 octane....
So after following your instructions which seem to be the easiest to understand on TH-cam I'm getting a reading of 8.25 which is a little lower than yours so would that mean my coil is bad? Thanks for any advice
yep! unless the battery imnyour meter is low l,ao
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Charge that battery and crank with that spark tester clipped on it. If the battery explodes💥🔥... you have spark. 😳
nah, lot of myths, they have merit, like the whole thing of batteries draining on the floor, thats from when they came in wood cases! Half of it is insurance company bs..... Did you know that a lap belt is better than a single shoulder strap, unless you have a x or two of them, its instant spinal damage and whiplash.... the odds of half this shit like your car running while pumping gas exploding, would mean every wire short on every car would blow up the gasstations or your battery.....
Good video sir I have a 65 mercury comet straight six I did the battery, alternator, starter plugs and wires vacuum, carb, radiator the obstacle that I have now is the cars crank starts and immediately dies. Any suggestions thanks so much?
does the coil have power when on? A 65 will have 2 wires for the coil, one is for starting only at 12v, and one is for run at 9v......
I'm pretty sure I got the same issue I've replaced the balast resistor on the firewall ,pickup coil inside the distributer, the pligs,wires,starter,alternator, fuelpump,and coil, but still nothing I've tried 3 different ignition coils still nothing I don't have a multimeter just a tac meter for small electronics for like speaker wire or fuses . When I did test the current coil on the terminals it read 100% green keep in mind its not the proper tool. But when testing the wire hole where the plug wire snaps into it drops to about 45-50% power I wouldn't think it could be the icm under my steering colum but I'm just assuming that just because it turns on off and turns the starter over without a problem it's on a 87 dodge d150 360 v8 5.9l dual pickup coil distributer
here schematron.org/1987-dodge-d150-wiring-diagram.html you dont have a balast resistor thats for points, the extra wire is a low oil pressure kill switch. so if the oil light is on the distributor wont fire.....
No disrespect but he sounds like Casey jones from the first ninja turtles movie 😎🤘. I'm helping my dad work on his 1978 chevy truck 350 with hei distributor. It ran the other day in town then shut off . my dad had to restart the truck drove it home . rotates now but nonstart or spark. Replaced the cap rotor and coil and the 4 prong icm. Still no start? Its either the pickup coil or the starting switch mount on top of the steering column since a non tilt column ?
Yeah just get a 5$ test light and see if it’s getting power
Thanks for video. I have 83 Jeep cj7 running 2 weeks ago. Now no spark from coil wire. Removed dist cap and found the center pin on cap had broken off and was imside dist. I have Mallory dist and ignition coil. Red wire inside dist has a break in the insulation. Went to oem dist and Accel coil also replaced ballast resistor still no spark from coil wire. I'm stumped. Aloha from Hawaii!!! Any advice??
Ahh, well, I dont think you would have points on an 83. if so, a points distributor has a resistor to run at 9.6 volts so you dont burn the points up. It also has a bypass wire, so when you are cranking it bypasses the resistor to run a full 14.6 volts until it until it starts, but you should have a magnetic pickup. and should not have the resistor or bypass. I go over that in my video th-cam.com/video/0P_qU7I2n4Q/w-d-xo.html... you either have a prestolite style or a brain box style where the circuit board is mounted outside the distributor and they go bad...
@@TEN-TIMES-HARDER well I had Mallory coil and Mallory dist. And also note there is no icm below the washer box on the driver fender. Not sure what that's about. Replaced with a cell coil and own dist dist cap and rotor. Getting 12 volts to coil and it's pulsing properly but still not getting fire from top of coil. Bypassed the resistor and I still can't figure this out.
well, capacitor discharge ignition has a brain box or it is mounted under the plate. thats why i show vid on installing a pertronix igniter in a prestolite distributor. or non-points mallory have the same thing like in that vid.
here is how it works.
under the rotor. their is a lobed wheel. and a magnetic pickup. (like a crank position sensor for new cars) when the lobe gets close to the pickup, the magnetic field is disrupted.
This triggers the brain then, amplifies it with transistors/capacitors and sends signal to the coil to dump the spark, then its sent through what ever wire the rotor is pointing at under the cap.
so if the circuit board is bad or the pickup is bad, it dont know to send a spark, just like if your points where not contacting....
Do those numbers you mentioned for the coil the same in all coils? I just got a new one for my 84 jag. The side posts say 1.4 but the center post and one side only read 8.4
what engine
So do you get lower voltage at the coil if your pickup coil is bad or damaged? What if the gap between the pickup coil and the reluctor isn't adequate? Could that also cause a drop in voltage at the coil?
The coil is charged like a capacitor right, straight 12-14volts. goes to the coil. unless its points then it gets 9.6v! As soon as it can ground out, and complete the circuit, it does. It does this through the cap and rotor and goes to what ever plug wire its pointing at.
Was it the pick up
Thanks..this is great, but a lot to chew on. I'll work through each item you mention an report back.
Did you report back
must have been something simple lol
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Ok, I am curious now. I just bought a boat with a Mercruiser 3.7 that has points. It appears that I can upgrade the point system to a magnetic pick up like in your video. Is the magnet pick up all that is needed with a direct connection to the coil or is there a control module somewhere in-between.
That's the cool thing about pertronix the control board is built in to the backing plate for the rotor! So all you need to do is remove galaxy resistor that is in line to the coils power.
See that's what that r terminal is on your starter. The points run on 9v, so their is a 3v resistor in series b4 the coil... so the when starting, the resistor gets bypassed and the coil gets full voltage to help start.
Oh that's all in the second video, no spark no start sokved!
Hey I just heard that ignition switch could be responsible for stalling not just my cranking problem. Can switch be responsible for it dying after I do get it to crank/ start ? And it does have a cranking/ starting problem with it half the time starting/ cranking sometimes will and sometimes won’t
its possible.
if its that worn out like a light switch you jave to jiggle.
it might be that worn out that its hardly makjng contact and heating up
Should all coils have the same readings? for instance I have a Pertronix coil and I'm getting no spark
so if you would like a simpler test, put a spark test (or screwdriver) on the end of the wire directly off the coil itself. you can take a jumper wire from ground, and touch it momentarily to the neg side of coil, it will spark as long as you have power to the pos of coil!!!
if not, jump power right to pos side of coil and try again, if that works your coil is not getting power or you have bad ignition switch
I been having problems with the cap and rotors now adays…. I’ll go through one atleast once a month, any idea where to find a decent cap and rotor?
I just get the good one, Very possible your distributor bearings are loose! see if you can wiggle the shaft, also are they points? there are several other issues that can be happening if their points...
hi erik . can a ford spark plug wire be used for a dodge durango ignition coil wire ?
sure, just know that a solid core wire is really for points only, they can cause interference with electronics. Other wise you really only have two choices of wires, cheap carbon core wires that wear out quick, or a wound alloy type core, both reduce the emf enough to not interfere with the electronics...
I HAVE A 66 FORD 352 NO SPARK CHANGED POINTS ROTAR CONDENCER CAP ANY BODY WITH THE SAME MOTOR
It’s wired the same