Is Saxon Carpe Diem better than Iron Maiden Senjutsu?

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  • @p90man
    @p90man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The newer Saxon Albums are much stronger than the newer Maiden Albums.

  • @vikingbrace
    @vikingbrace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not surprised by your take on this at all and I haven’t even had a chance to get the new Saxon yet. But I will. I love Maiden. But…their last few albums are exactly how you described them. All your critiques are pretty much spot. Vocals sound strained, songs are too long, and not enough fire power. Always some good songs but just not enough. Still better than most. Great video

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, Gary! Like you, I love Maiden but the last few albums haven’t done it for me🤟🏻

  • @Poleson
    @Poleson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have been a fan of Saxon since the 80s. Denim & Leather and Power & The Glory picture disc were albums I bought as soon as they came out. I must admit, however, that I only recently started listening to the new stuff and I must say it blew me away! They are once again one of my favourite bands. They are not just good for old men they are excellent full stop!!

  • @michaelsollars5890
    @michaelsollars5890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saxon Rules! Their extensive catalog is worth checking out, and the last 4 records are all good, mostly great. See’em live if you can. Must see!

  • @9496TULL
    @9496TULL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent purchase with your winnings Chris. I feel the same when it comes to these two releases. You nailed it in my opinion.

  • @zeppearl
    @zeppearl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Chris, you start off right, props to both for still being relevant for the past 42 years and keep pushing to make new music. Its always good when a new Maiden album comes out and then a new Saxon BOOM Bonus !!! Yes you express your point well on the length of the song could they have been edited down or maybe remove a few to bring the whole album length down. To be fair I have not heard the Saxon album yet but their last few albums have been really good. So I can't compare yet but you have really made me put Saxon new one near the top of my current wants list. Thanks for the review !!!! cheers- VK

  • @RobertsOnMyTurntable
    @RobertsOnMyTurntable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Chris. So great of you to join in yesterday. It was fun! I have Saxon’s Denim and Leather and The Power & The Glory. Both great ones. Love the cover of the new album. Awesome review of both. Will have to check out the new Saxon. 😊

  • @AndySalinger33
    @AndySalinger33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hey Chris, nice review! Both of these albums are out if my wheelhouse, so I’m just enjoying your critique with no bias. I think I’ll pick up the Saxon record. Appreciate ya, man. 👊

  • @vinylhazard666
    @vinylhazard666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have listen to Carpe Diem several times more than Senjutsu. So the choice was easy for me. 🤘🏼

  • @dokholidej3464
    @dokholidej3464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Comparing these two albums there are two key points: first is the is the length of the songs. For Maiden album, it exists ''EPIC'' songs which are so spirited that they are slowly losing their meaning. However, in the case of Saxon album, there is also an EPIC song like ''pilgrimage'' but it is much shorter and gives a much greater atmosphere; second, is the production design. In the case of Saxon Carpe diem album, it is strong and clean with a bridge guitar impression, while in the case of new Maiden album, the production by today’s standards seems empty, which is a bit unacceptable.

  • @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486
    @jeffwhitchervinyldestinati4486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Odds are slim I will ever hear either of these albums but I love your honest take on what will probably be an unpopular viewpoint. Great double review! 🤟🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻

  • @aaronmuthaalamare4165
    @aaronmuthaalamare4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Killer review Chris! I am waiting to get my copy of Saxon , I trust your opinion and can’t wait to hear it! 👍🤘🤘

  • @officialwillieg2001
    @officialwillieg2001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with everything you’ve said. Enjoyable video 👍

  • @MattMet292
    @MattMet292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saxon have been bringing strong albums out for the past 20 years. Lionheart is one of my favourites and an absolute master piece, the last Maiden album I liked from start to finish was probably Brave New World. Senjutsu was a return to form for Maiden though, probably the best since Dance of Death for me.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your thoughts, Matt. I’m just glad that both bands are still putting out quality material.

  • @markmclellan7146
    @markmclellan7146 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've not listened to Saxon since the mid 80s. My mate was a huge fan and I kinda liked them but I was not a huge fan. However I stumbled across this the other day and it has just blown me away. It's everything you say. Clean, punchy and memorable. Funny enough I only realised in the last few years that Princess of the Night was about a steam locomotive. My mate has never even clicked in all this time. I really love it now and hearing Age of Steam is really special. Dambusters is amazing and I can't stop singing 'Carpe Diem!'. It's great to hear something memorable after you thought that nothing could surprise you in old age. Nice one Saxon :-)

  • @tonycolbourne7694
    @tonycolbourne7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love both bands but have to admit I was a bit underwhelmed by Senjutsu especially compared to Carpe Diem. Still proud of both bands and own all of their output on vinyl and cd. As long as they knocked out I'll pick em up. 👍🇬🇧

  • @EntreMelodias
    @EntreMelodias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't dislike senjutsu but I listened to it like two times and that's enough for me, so far. The new saxon album sounds great !! the album cover and everything feels like classic saxon.
    I think some bands get like overconfident or arrogant when it comes to writing something different, and some are somewhat arrogant and don't give a damn about not changing -much- the sound of song structure, and saxon is one of those bands, that's why they are consistent and getting better and better album after album.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saxon is basically taking over for Motörhead in terms of consistency!

    • @EntreMelodias
      @EntreMelodias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed absolutely! one of those bands that found a formula and it was probably their best decision ever, same with ac/dc.

  • @mikesgotthespins5894
    @mikesgotthespins5894 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review, thanks for sharing. Peace!

  • @joemanderino6234
    @joemanderino6234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bought the new Saxon album last Friday. It has been the only thing in my car this past week. At least 20 listens so far. Top to bottom, best metal album I've heard in the past 10 years and the best by Saxon.. Great production, length of songs, lyrics, vocals and playing is top notch. Enjoyable at at volume and not hard on the hearing......

  • @theflipside-vinylcommunity
    @theflipside-vinylcommunity 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome review and I completely agree on the last few Iron Maiden’s

  • @GRockVC
    @GRockVC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting to hear your thoughts on these albums Chris. For me Saxon is middle of the road playing it safe HM while Maiden is a bit more creative. I think the Maiden had some stronger songs, but lower lows. Interesting to see how far these bands have come since the beginnings and the fact they are both putting out strong albums.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts!!!! Would love to have heard Blaze sing on the new Maiden with some shorter, punchier songs!

    • @liquidzuel2321
      @liquidzuel2321 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saxon may be middle of the road but Maiden veered off the road years ago, driver asleep at the wheel.

  • @ianm139
    @ianm139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the new saxon album.

  • @charlesmunden2009
    @charlesmunden2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Saxon all the way for me!

  • @jasonjones8178
    @jasonjones8178 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The saxon album is the best

  • @georgesiamos7465
    @georgesiamos7465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing Comparison of two Albums between 2 Great bands!
    I think it doesn't sound crazy that Saxon's album is better than Maiden..I am fan of both Bands,but for sure Saxon have better Albums ( the average) than Maiden since 1995..We like it or not this is the truth!
    NEVER SURRENDER MATE!

  • @richardcharlesworth6069
    @richardcharlesworth6069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very good video. I have been a Maiden fan for over 40 years and I thought Senjutsu was a very good album albeit the long songs may not be so good live. It is no surprise that my favourite track is Stratego which is classic Maiden. Back in the 80s and early 90s I liked Saxon but haven't listened to any of their "new" albums since then. I had seen so many comments about Carpe Diem I was intrigued, put it on and was blown away! It transported me back to the 80s and Biff's voice sounds the same as it did then! I had expected some change so I went back to some of the albums I knew just to check! (As an aside, Dallas 1pm is still a brilliant track). I love the punchy songs on Carpe Diem which, as you state, "don't outstay their welcome". It is interesting that Steve Harris stated that his time with British Lion (another great band) has helped in write shorter songs! I couldn't state a preference so will just be happy that both bands are still producing great new music. However I now have 25+ years of Saxon back catalogue to go through!

  • @MiguelSeabraMelo
    @MiguelSeabraMelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally someone who agrees with me that Bruce (sadly) doesn't "still have it" as all reviewers say... and that the songs are way too long and drawn out. Maiden's last few albums are a snoozefest for the most part...

  • @lb6135
    @lb6135 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why does it always have to be better than or best???!!! I enjoy both for different reasons and thankful that they're both still giving us fans the good stuff (like Priest with Firepower). Senjutsu is my current favourite for sleepytime metal and chillin' on a Sunday. Btw I also love Carpe Diem, great driving tunes- like most of their stuff. Been listening to them for 41 years, since 15 year old me checked out Denim & Leather on import, liked the song names, and took a chance on it. I regret never having seen them in concert, though. Last time they toured North America with Rainbow, I couldn't get anybody interested to go, even my wife whom I've mostly converted from country lol. I won't make that mistake next time, I'll go alone if I have too!

  • @12x
    @12x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carpe Diem on vinyl is top, havent liked a Maiden album lately

  • @mjp8648
    @mjp8648 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I am correct, you have the same Yamaha cassette deck that I have. Didn't half improve the sound quality of my old tapes (and I had the Denon DR-171 bought back in the 80's too).

  • @KardboardKenny
    @KardboardKenny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i got both on day one. i'm a 40yr+ Maiden fan.
    i've yet to get through Senjutsu. i just can't do it.
    Saxon has been on repeat since it dropped.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’m glad to hear some real reviews on the new Maiden. Too many people thinks it’s one of their strongest records. Just not true.

    • @tonycolbourne7694
      @tonycolbourne7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. I've only played maiden straight through once since it came out. Carpe diem has been on my turntable over a dozen times already. On this outing Saxon wins.

  • @MsLizbiz1
    @MsLizbiz1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are completely spot on Maiden haven’t been well produced since the eighties (Martin birch) And the songs are to long .

  • @steveratcliffe2181
    @steveratcliffe2181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saxon for sure. I really like the Maiden album but it took a while to grow on me. Carpe Diem hit instantly. Has more power and does not meander like the Maiden record. For me, Saxons last few albums are far better than both Maiden and Priests later efforts.
    BTW, I love Biffs appearance on the Amon Amarth song Saxons and Vikings. Killer song!

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saxon has been hitting it out of the park!!! Saw them live a few years ago🤟🏻🤟🏻

  • @cedened
    @cedened 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LOL I prefer a compilation of Steve Harris's intros to the Saxon album even tho I like it.

  • @jamesevans6335
    @jamesevans6335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everything is better than modern maiden

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Modern Maiden definitely needs some changes with their newer releases. Great ideas, the songs are just too long!

    • @jamesevans6335
      @jamesevans6335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed and slow . They've ruined there legacy haven't liked an album of there's since seventh son

  • @oliviergeoffroy9823
    @oliviergeoffroy9823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    interesting video thanx for it ....question :what is the advantage in studio for maiden to insert three guitars into a track one is enough with nowadays technology you can push the limits in infinate ways so what is the idea from harris to complicate the process with three f...g guitars ...;-)

  • @jeffrose8632
    @jeffrose8632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Saxon is much better then maiden.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both kick ass bands!!!!!

    • @jeffrose8632
      @jeffrose8632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed agreed. But if we're comparing the last two albums from each band Saxon for me is the clear winner. It's a really good album top to bottom. The whole band sounds energized and fresh and the production is well done. For me the maiden album is hit and miss. I've listened to it a couple times and it just doesn't grab me. It doesn't have that "old" maiden feel that I'm used too.

  • @joeknightus8827
    @joeknightus8827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw Saxon on the Power and the Glory tour. They opened for Maiden on their Piece of Mind tour. Saxon was brilliant, Iron Maiden was dull. Seriously, I became a Saxon fan that night and never really got into Maiden after that. This was in 1983.

  • @ClarkOVision
    @ClarkOVision 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes is the answer! :)

  • @tonycolbourne7694
    @tonycolbourne7694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maiden need Andy Sneap for their next outing.

  • @petetobey3933
    @petetobey3933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just my opinion, but I love epic Maiden. The songs aren’t too long if you love the sound. But that’s just my ears. I think Senjutsu is the best they’ve done since AMOLAD. That said, I still love Saxon. They do come straight at you with banger after banger. I love both bands, more of an Iron Maiden guy, but I love a lot of Saxon’s material.

  • @giwrgoskolovos1192
    @giwrgoskolovos1192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SAXON the best heavy metal band ever!!!!

  • @bochristensen1969
    @bochristensen1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you decide what is best

  • @hermangeritz
    @hermangeritz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the new Iron Maiden is boring. Saxon is great what a energy!

  • @robertghanem1424
    @robertghanem1424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's definitely heavier.

  • @WolfgangCM
    @WolfgangCM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For me Senjutsu is the best album of Iron Maiden and Carpe Diem is the best album of Saxon - i give 10 of 10 points for Senjutsu and 9 of 10 points for Carpe Diem.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both are great albums!!!! We are very lucky as listeners to have these!

    • @wc1994
      @wc1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to listen to Iron Maiden's first seven records before you spew out nonsense like that!!!

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wc1994 I have…many times

  • @Invterra
    @Invterra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of Course that It IS!!!!

  • @ronaldeccles5147
    @ronaldeccles5147 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saxon - it is fine but just more of the same. Thunderbolt is the best of the recent albums. The Pilgrimage is the best song, and it is the one that starts to move in the direction Maiden have mastered (though are themselves in danger of doing the same thing too much). Maiden's production sounds like the band - and makes the music easy to listen to and suggest. Saxon sounds like an Andy Sneap production.
    We are getting to the point that Saxon and Priest will have a range of albums that sound interchangeable - sound good and have good songs until you get bored with formula - which I am. I prefer 'War Within Me' by Blaze Bayley - in the same space but does it his way far more.
    Reality is that Saxon has fans who demand the same old, same old, which they can do very well. Maiden are big enough to do as they please, and they have done so majestically. I would so love Saxon to do more experimentation, however their fanbase, sadly, would never accept it.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your thoughts, Ronald. Blaze Bayley continues to amaze me. His new album is fantastic!

  • @flameslingeralex3549
    @flameslingeralex3549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Carpe Diem is way better than Senjutsu for me. It is easily one of Maidens worst in their catelogue in my opinion and the songs are stretched out too long. I usually don't mind longer songs but you have to keep them interesting and Bruces voice and the guitars sound awful at some points. Hell on Earth is really good though.

  • @esteeb67
    @esteeb67 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am not super impressed with the new Saxon album. Is it enjoyable? Sure. But it doesn't reach the heights of recent albums like Thunderbolt! and Sacrifice where they really tried some different things and amped it up a bit. As GRock said, it is pretty play by numbers. Senjutsu, like most latter period Maiden albums, has some major flaws. But it is adventurous and creative and Maiden is always trying to go to new places and challenge themselves. Songs like The Parchment, Hell On Earth and The Time Machine are all great and for these tracks alone I would have to pick Maiden.

  • @brendayork9304
    @brendayork9304 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do have to respectfully disagree on your assessment of the Maiden album,it seems anyone over 30 can't get past the albums gone by and are expecting every new one to dive into the nostalgia just to suit your palate.bands grow and explore and should be allowed to do so. Saxon has been and always will be an Amazing band,but offer a different style of the genre so comparison is mute. Yes,the songs of Senjutsu are lengthy I agree but also feel 8f that's what was needed to convey the music in total then so be it.also agree that production on this one could have been cleaner.as for Bruce,he achieves more than most vocalists his age even for his past health issue, so the critique was unwarranted.artists get older,voices change so it should be more acceptable embrace that fact not expect past reiterating for new albums

  • @oswaldfife5183
    @oswaldfife5183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheels of Steel!

  • @puressenceuk35
    @puressenceuk35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maiden need to cut down song times, fire Kevin Shirley and get back to metal. Way too much slow acoustic drivel on Senjitsu, wheras Carpe Diem absolutely rocks.

  • @davel7791
    @davel7791 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Summary - Chris doesn't like Kevin Shirley production, and Maiden songs are too long now. This is a typical view of disgruntled Maiden fans who long for the 1980s. I disagree completely and think he misses the point of modern Maiden (they shouldn't try to relive the 80s), but it's not an uncommon opinion, and he's welcome to it.

  • @bloodbornehunter9974
    @bloodbornehunter9974 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    compare 2 different albums is waste of time

  • @marcdiego1
    @marcdiego1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maiden's new album is better. Saxon's Thunderbolt is better than Carpe Diem IMO. Btw, Biff is older than Bruce!!!

  • @strangeways75
    @strangeways75 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No, but the Saxon is very good.

  • @matthewvoss7365
    @matthewvoss7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saxon is a band I can't get into. The new Iron Maiden record is better than their last five studio albums so I'd have to answer no to the video title question.

    • @matthewvoss7365
      @matthewvoss7365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to check out the new Saxon album but damn this new album from IM is great.

    • @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed
      @ChrisPropfeMusicallyObsessed  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Both records are great! I’m just glad that they still are coming out with quality music this late in their career!

  • @moodlefyful
    @moodlefyful 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No is the simple answer.