coatlesscarl dude, this 8 bit song is AMAZING because 1, you made the recreation so exact and great, and 2, Super Smash Bros. Melee is an AMAZING game. This song recreation is just a beauty and a pinnacle of video games. You just made my life of gaming better. I cannot stop listening to this because you made a well done work of art, music, and video game combined into an outstanding piece that should have millions of views. Also, GOOOOOOOO SHEIK!
secretevilmaster no, I meant sheik, from Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time, and in Super Smash Bros. Melee and the rest of the Super Smash Bros. after that. Look it up.
Most people who play competitively agree with you. Probably for different reasons though. I personally find Brawl a lot slower and less intense overall. After playing melee, brawl feels like moon physics. Also the competitive skill aspect is a downer, Brawl is just so much simpler, which I suppose could be an upside for some people. Honest;y I'd play either but Melee is better as a fighting game in my opinion. Plus no tripping ;)
Solace Snipe While I do like Melee better overall I have to admit that the most concentrated fun I ever had in one moment was when me, my bro, and my bro-in-law were all playing wario sudden death final smashes everywhere and we did nothing but wheelie into each other or accidentally SD ourselves trying to drive as super-wario. We were on the floor we were laughing so hard.
You know what´s funny? From a musical stand-point I actually prefer SSBM over any other game in the series. Brawl has given us lots of good remixes from other games and in many respects I should like it more because it has a lot more music to pick from. But Melee has brought us numerous pieces of music with a fresh take on them, both remixes and original compositions like this opening theme, the main theme, all-star and the secondary theme that plays after you complete everything, that actually triumphs over SSBB´s soundtrack in terms of structure, tone and complexety. Something I want to learn from as a composer.
If I recall correctly, Konami also used a technique that allowed them to use a single sound channel to create an echoing effect, rather than using two channels to do the work. This allowed for even thicker and richer works. Good job on this, SMBM is one of the first games I got with my gamecube, right alongside Metroid Prime and Wind Waker (I was about 7 at the time, so I was still new to console gaming. I was no stranger to Half-Life and Starcraft on PC, though.)
Listening to this I can envision a universe where Nintendo releases a 20 dollar “melee throwback” game, a 32-bit retro smash bros clone, containing the core characters from melee represented as the sprites from their original IPs
Nothing like the sound of SSBM's intro. Brilliant work, though when I saw the intro of this game on a VCR that came with a magazine, the pause at the beginning was cut, which I think makes the intro sound better.
Aw yeah subscribin' time. This is infinitely better that GSXCC in every way. I think there's room for improvement in terms of some extra little things that can be changed, but what you've done is certainly nothing to scoff at. I have to say, bravo.
@PhoenixRage07 What sort of changes did you have in mind? I've tweaked a few things in this cover already, and I always welcome suggestions to improve the tracks.
Am I the only one who prefers Brawl and Smash 4 to Melee? To me, the controls in Melee feel a lot stiffer and awkward than the controls in Brawl in Smash 4, which are very fluent and responsive. *Waits for hate comments
+Moop Bread Depends on what you're used to I guess. Smash 4 feels a little too loose and wobbly for me because I play Melee so much more. The relative rigidity of the Melee controls help me feel the impact of the moves a bit more too. For me, landing a Melee Falcon Knee is so much more satisfying than a Smash 4 Knee because the overall controls are more "firm" than Smash 4's fluid controls.
+Moop Bread It's not just a matter of preference, but also experience. Melee is very tight and responsive for me, after having spent a few months playing and practicing my movement. I can always get exactly where I want to go on the stage very quickly. Yet, despite months of the same play in smash 4, I still struggle to control my floaty character.
Melee has no input buffer on a ton of things, so if you hit too early it doesn't respond. On the other hand, it doesn't have Brawl's insane 10 frame and Smash 4's 4 frame input lag. BLEH. Which is why I like Project M the best! It has all the things that make Melee beautiful, and allows buffering for more things, and reduces the in built lag from Brawl. :D
I really feel your pain on the GXSCC thing; I find all too many videos of people recording with crappy soundfonts and trying to pass it off as if they actually made it themselves. Yeah...if I wanted to hear that, I'd load the MID file in GXSCC myself, dammit. =P
I actually did give the intro theme for Brawl a shot maybe a year ago, but it stuttered out of the gate and I gave up on it pretty quickly. Maybe I'll try again someday.
@DudeNumberX Go to Module>Module Properties>Expansion Chip. This is the Konami VRC6 I'm using. If you'd like a tutorial, 8bitdanooct1 has one on his channel.
What are the F02/F03 codes in the DPCM channels for? I've noticed them in quite a few of your videos, and I'm wondering what they're there for (I'm trying to learn FamiTracker :D )
They change the speed at which the tracker scrolls. F03 is 300 beats per minute and F02 is 450 bpm (assuming the tempo remains at the default 150). Shifting back and forth between those two speeds creates an overall bpm that is somewhere in between 300-450. For example, a track that vacillates between one row of F02 and one row of F03 will have an overall bpm of 375. I use this method instead of simply altering the tempo value because it causes the tracker to scroll more smoothly. Just changing the tempo value can lead to some sections scrolling faster or slower than others, making the tempo noticeably uneven in places.
Ah, neat trick. Does it affect the pt the relative spacing of notes? for example, do you have to change the distance b/w notes to achieve eighth notes?
rockemsockemroberts Sometimes. It depends how fast the speed is. The slower the speed of the tracker is, the less rows you have to work with, and this could potentially mean that a note you want to track gets stuck between available rows, making it impossible to place. Then you'll have to increase both the speed of the tracker and the distance between notes. This will result in a track that has the same tempo as before, but more rows to work with. For example, two notes that are four rows apart at F06 is the same as two notes that are eight rows apart at F03, the only difference being that in the latter case, there are more rows to place notes, effects, etc. in. If this is confusing I can make an FTM that will illustrate what I mean.
Hey Carl, do you think you can do an 8 bit of Sheik's Theme? If you can, I would really appreciate it. :D I am a new Legend of Zelda fan, and I am currently playing Ocarina of Time 3D
This isn't technically correct. The NES has 2 square channels, 1 triangle, 1 noise, and 1 PCM. With the addition of a Famicom Disk System, it adds one user defined wavelength channel, which could be used for sawtooth You have the pulse, triangle, noise, and PCM channels, fine. You have a sawtooth channel, also fine if we're allowing FDS. But you also added TWO extra pulse channels. EVEN IF the FDS sound had 3 channels, it only allows for 1 user defined wavelength to be loaded at a time. This is a good remix, don't get me wrong. That detail about the sound bugs me more than it should though... The only other remix of this song in 8-bit goes for a "Shovel Knight" style rather than just remaking the song exactly, like here. But here, the music isn't hardware accurate. This is a nitpick in the grand scheme of things, but it really bothers me...
Hi TheRedCap. This remix was never presented as an NES remix, hence why I simply call it 8-bit instead of an NES remix in the title. In this cover I'm using a Famicom expansion chip called the VRC6 which enables me to use the three additional channels along with the standard NES channels you've listed. This expansion chip was used in the Famicom version of Castlevania III, which is why the soundtrack for that version sounds so different from the NES version's soundtrack. Considering also that the program I used to create this remix so closely emulates the sound capabilities of the Famicom and its expansion chips that it can export songs to a sound format that can be played back on original hardware, I'd say that the authenticity or "hardware accuracy" of this remix is actually quite intact. I'd encourage you to search out the various expansion chips that were created for the Famicom back in the day; some of them increase the Famicom's sound capabilities even more than the VRC6! Who knows, you may enjoy hearing how far people pushed the limits of the Famicom.
@@coatlesscarl Yeah I thought about expansion chips, but I hadn't really considered them since the american NES couldn't use them. It makes sense now, thanks.
Downloads for many of my tracks are available via links from the "About" tab on my channel page. I'm quite certain this remix is among those available.
@coatlesscarl Well, I was thinking the Fraaz boss battle theme from Zelda Spirit Tracks. I was thinking of doing it myself, but i just started using famitracker, and I'd love to hear what it sounds like coming from someone like you. I have a midi version of the song, if you want.
I think it's just the appearance of the video. TH-cam morons usually prejudge things and if it has more than 1 number on the screen at once, they'll overlook it.
![Super Smash Bros. Melee LOST BITS | Unused Content & Debug Mode [TetraBitGaming]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/mW4lhbnQIII/mqdefault.jpg)
The year is 198X.
Fox and Falco hadn't been invented yet. Every match was Doc v Peach.
Andrew Thomas Little Mac was outsmarting everyone.
Because the Characters that existed lacked of a complete moveset.
Then the fire nation attacked.
! ! !
+Zacktastic417 The Mang0 nation then ceased to exist.
It may not get as many views as a GSXCC version, but the views it does get are from people who appreciate your hard work and talent.
never mind the views!
your audience is that of superior and discerning palate.
Quality over quantity friend.
[Get Ready]
Go!
0:47 love that part so much great job 👌
*NOW YOU'RE PLAYING WITH POWER*
0:47 is what falling in love with someone feels like
Fantastic work. I love the explosion sound at the end.
Man, this is great! I think you could have used more slides like the original had at around the 0:47 mark, but this is awesome!
Great job with the percussion at 1:16! Just a great track overall!
Dat white noise explosion 👌
coatlesscarl dude, this 8 bit song is AMAZING because 1, you made the recreation so exact and great, and 2, Super Smash Bros. Melee is an AMAZING game. This song recreation is just a beauty and a pinnacle of video games. You just made my life of gaming better. I cannot stop listening to this because you made a well done work of art, music, and video game combined into an outstanding piece that should have millions of views. Also, GOOOOOOOO SHEIK!
Well all right! Glad you enjoyed it so much!
*Spell Check* GO SHREK!
secretevilmaster no, I meant sheik, from Legend of Zelda: Orcarina of Time, and in Super Smash Bros. Melee and the rest of the Super Smash Bros. after that. Look it up.
*Spell Check* GO SHIKE
This is perfect!! :D
I have tried so hard to sync this up to Melee's intro, and I just cannot do it for the life of me.
You should make a tutorial series for famitracker!
I can barely do anything on famitracker, but you! Good! Sir! Have made god’s work in physical form
has a new feel, yet nostalgia at the same time...I cannot describe how amazed I am, bravo sir bravo
I'm not the only one who prefers Melee to Brawl, right?
Right?
Most people who play competitively agree with you. Probably for different reasons though. I personally find Brawl a lot slower and less intense overall. After playing melee, brawl feels like moon physics. Also the competitive skill aspect is a downer, Brawl is just so much simpler, which I suppose could be an upside for some people. Honest;y I'd play either but Melee is better as a fighting game in my opinion. Plus no tripping ;)
Lucas Zero agreed. But casually playing brawl is slightly more fun because lets face it... Final smashes are awesome and hilarious xD
Solace Snipe While I do like Melee better overall I have to admit that the most concentrated fun I ever had in one moment was when me, my bro, and my bro-in-law were all playing wario sudden death final smashes everywhere and we did nothing but wheelie into each other or accidentally SD ourselves trying to drive as super-wario. We were on the floor we were laughing so hard.
Really? I'd like to see that.
You know what´s funny? From a musical stand-point I actually prefer SSBM over any other game in the series. Brawl has given us lots of good remixes from other games and in many respects I should like it more because it has a lot more music to pick from.
But Melee has brought us numerous pieces of music with a fresh take on them, both remixes and original compositions like this opening theme, the main theme, all-star and the secondary theme that plays after you complete everything, that actually triumphs over SSBB´s soundtrack in terms of structure, tone and complexety. Something I want to learn from as a composer.
If I recall correctly, Konami also used a technique that allowed them to use a single sound channel to create an echoing effect, rather than using two channels to do the work. This allowed for even thicker and richer works.
Good job on this, SMBM is one of the first games I got with my gamecube, right alongside Metroid Prime and Wind Waker (I was about 7 at the time, so I was still new to console gaming. I was no stranger to Half-Life and Starcraft on PC, though.)
Listening to this I can envision a universe where Nintendo releases a 20 dollar “melee throwback” game, a 32-bit retro smash bros clone, containing the core characters from melee represented as the sprites from their original IPs
Nothing like the sound of SSBM's intro. Brilliant work, though when I saw the intro of this game on a VCR that came with a magazine, the pause at the beginning was cut, which I think makes the intro sound better.
This is fantastic! I hope one day I can get on this level. Keep up the awesome work.
this is flawless man! 11/10
Absolutely perfect I love it
This is really good, how did you do this?
It’s really good
awesome. I love hearing themes from series translated over to 8-bit or piano.
been messing with famitracker, this inspires me to try and recreate video pieces
Aw yeah subscribin' time. This is infinitely better that GSXCC in every way. I think there's room for improvement in terms of some extra little things that can be changed, but what you've done is certainly nothing to scoff at. I have to say, bravo.
@PhoenixRage07 What sort of changes did you have in mind? I've tweaked a few things in this cover already, and I always welcome suggestions to improve the tracks.
Am I the only one who prefers Brawl and Smash 4 to Melee? To me, the controls in Melee feel a lot stiffer and awkward than the controls in Brawl in Smash 4, which are very fluent and responsive. *Waits for hate comments
+Moop Bread Depends on what you're used to I guess. Smash 4 feels a little too loose and wobbly for me because I play Melee so much more. The relative rigidity of the Melee controls help me feel the impact of the moves a bit more too. For me, landing a Melee Falcon Knee is so much more satisfying than a Smash 4 Knee because the overall controls are more "firm" than Smash 4's fluid controls.
An Opinion is An Opinion....Can't Argue With That :D
+Moop Bread It's not just a matter of preference, but also experience. Melee is very tight and responsive for me, after having spent a few months playing and practicing my movement. I can always get exactly where I want to go on the stage very quickly. Yet, despite months of the same play in smash 4, I still struggle to control my floaty character.
Melee has no input buffer on a ton of things, so if you hit too early it doesn't respond. On the other hand, it doesn't have Brawl's insane 10 frame and Smash 4's 4 frame input lag. BLEH. Which is why I like Project M the best! It has all the things that make Melee beautiful, and allows buffering for more things, and reduces the in built lag from Brawl. :D
***** The Melee tryhards kinda ruin it for me too.
those arpeggios!
This is delightful!
Super Smash Brothers. MEEEEEELLLLEEEEEEE
I really feel your pain on the GXSCC thing; I find all too many videos of people recording with crappy soundfonts and trying to pass it off as if they actually made it themselves. Yeah...if I wanted to hear that, I'd load the MID file in GXSCC myself, dammit. =P
When I first saw this video I think I cried a little. Good job :) Wonderful!
This is so nice. A wonderful achievement.
..I am liking this like I have never ever ever ever ever liked anything else.
And all in glorious 8-bit. Boitiful
+Donkey Shlong It would seem as if this expanded dong.
Jake Smith AYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Modern 8-Bit!,lets rock and roll!!!!
It's just missing the FDS Voice screaming "SUPER SMASH BROTHERS! *MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!* "
I actually did give the intro theme for Brawl a shot maybe a year ago, but it stuttered out of the gate and I gave up on it pretty quickly. Maybe I'll try again someday.
Hey, I'm trying to learn Famitracker, and I was wondering; how do you get so many sound channels? Thanks :D Oh, and FREAKING AMAZING.
@DudeNumberX Go to Module>Module Properties>Expansion Chip. This is the Konami VRC6 I'm using. If you'd like a tutorial, 8bitdanooct1 has one on his channel.
"It's a pity it'll never get anywhere near the views a GSXCC version would."
*watches video*
AGREED
Post the .NSF please!
@LexouDuck I'm open to suggestions, but I must admit I'm not very reliable. Depends on the track, really.
Do break the targets from melee and then Wii please?
What are the F02/F03 codes in the DPCM channels for? I've noticed them in quite a few of your videos, and I'm wondering what they're there for (I'm trying to learn FamiTracker :D )
They change the speed at which the tracker scrolls. F03 is 300 beats per minute and F02 is 450 bpm (assuming the tempo remains at the default 150). Shifting back and forth between those two speeds creates an overall bpm that is somewhere in between 300-450. For example, a track that vacillates between one row of F02 and one row of F03 will have an overall bpm of 375. I use this method instead of simply altering the tempo value because it causes the tracker to scroll more smoothly. Just changing the tempo value can lead to some sections scrolling faster or slower than others, making the tempo noticeably uneven in places.
Ah, neat trick. Does it affect the pt the relative spacing of notes? for example, do you have to change the distance b/w notes to achieve eighth notes?
rockemsockemroberts Sometimes. It depends how fast the speed is. The slower the speed of the tracker is, the less rows you have to work with, and this could potentially mean that a note you want to track gets stuck between available rows, making it impossible to place. Then you'll have to increase both the speed of the tracker and the distance between notes. This will result in a track that has the same tempo as before, but more rows to work with. For example, two notes that are four rows apart at F06 is the same as two notes that are eight rows apart at F03, the only difference being that in the latter case, there are more rows to place notes, effects, etc. in.
If this is confusing I can make an FTM that will illustrate what I mean.
Mm, I think I get it, but it would be super awesome, if you were willing to do that :D
Goosebumps
this sounds so right 8-bit
Hey Carl, do you think you can do an 8 bit of Sheik's Theme? If you can, I would really appreciate it. :D I am a new Legend of Zelda fan, and I am currently playing Ocarina of Time 3D
Wow, great work :)
@wiithepeople2 Do you know who you're talking to here?
Im sorry if i sound like a noob (because i am). But how do you have 7 channels on Famitracker?
I believe he's using the VRC6 chip which was used in some NES games like Akumajo Densetsu 3 (AKA Castlevania 3)
I LOVE YOU OMG BEST REMIX
SO GOOD !
That was pretty awesome :)
ULTRA EPIC! ^o^ SO AWESOME! I love SSBM! x3
CHILLS.
i REALLY need to animate the SSBM intro in 8-bit with this song XD
Really Good.
Awesome you included the visual track. So impressive!
I love this. Maaaaaaake moooooore.
This isn't technically correct. The NES has 2 square channels, 1 triangle, 1 noise, and 1 PCM. With the addition of a Famicom Disk System, it adds one user defined wavelength channel, which could be used for sawtooth
You have the pulse, triangle, noise, and PCM channels, fine. You have a sawtooth channel, also fine if we're allowing FDS. But you also added TWO extra pulse channels. EVEN IF the FDS sound had 3 channels, it only allows for 1 user defined wavelength to be loaded at a time.
This is a good remix, don't get me wrong. That detail about the sound bugs me more than it should though... The only other remix of this song in 8-bit goes for a "Shovel Knight" style rather than just remaking the song exactly, like here. But here, the music isn't hardware accurate.
This is a nitpick in the grand scheme of things, but it really bothers me...
Hi TheRedCap. This remix was never presented as an NES remix, hence why I simply call it 8-bit instead of an NES remix in the title.
In this cover I'm using a Famicom expansion chip called the VRC6 which enables me to use the three additional channels along with the standard NES channels you've listed. This expansion chip was used in the Famicom version of Castlevania III, which is why the soundtrack for that version sounds so different from the NES version's soundtrack.
Considering also that the program I used to create this remix so closely emulates the sound capabilities of the Famicom and its expansion chips that it can export songs to a sound format that can be played back on original hardware, I'd say that the authenticity or "hardware accuracy" of this remix is actually quite intact. I'd encourage you to search out the various expansion chips that were created for the Famicom back in the day; some of them increase the Famicom's sound capabilities even more than the VRC6! Who knows, you may enjoy hearing how far people pushed the limits of the Famicom.
@@coatlesscarl Yeah I thought about expansion chips, but I hadn't really considered them since the american NES couldn't use them.
It makes sense now, thanks.
If you make the entire Melee soundtrack 8 bit I will learn how to make a game and make a 8-bit Melee.
Dat explosion
coatlesscarl can u put a link for download PLZ?!?!? I might use a segmentbfor an intro (if I can make one)..
I meant a segment for
Downloads for many of my tracks are available via links from the "About" tab on my channel page. I'm quite certain this remix is among those available.
Ok. Thanks Carl. Your song is the best.
You MUST have more views here! O.O Sharing on Facebook right now!
...do want download ...please ?
Wow. Do you ever do any original stuff btw?
I used to, but I don't devote as much time to composing anymore.
@coatlesscarl Awesome, thanks :D
AMAZING!!!!
SUPER SMASH BROTHERS *MELEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!*
Awesome
Could I please use this?
Of course!
coatlesscarl
Thanks!
;)
Oh this slaps
Mario Kart Double Dash Rainbow Road?? :D
@coatlesscarl Well, I was thinking the Fraaz boss battle theme from Zelda Spirit Tracks. I was thinking of doing it myself, but i just started using famitracker, and I'd love to hear what it sounds like coming from someone like you. I have a midi version of the song, if you want.
I like it
@Flaminglog Yeah I know Hertz. I know him personally. And he don't even know it.
Next do Super Mario World - The Evil King Bowser on Sega Genesis.
@HertzDevil Let's see you do this then...
Download?
In the "About" tab on my channel page, there are links to downloads for many of my covers.
Cheers :)
idek how famitracker works but nice bruh
SUPER SMASH BROS.™️
==MELEE==
PRESS A TO START
©️ 2001 NINTENDO
poggers, also 69,000 views
this is better than GSXCC
@Moop Bread:I disagree but,I know what you mean.
@Eltrotraw Very.
If a Nes had this it would exploade.
You should do some Mega Man X soundtrack.
nvm
You should do Brawl :)
Integrate this into the 20XX mod for fuck's sake.
This is gorgeous. 0:45 kreygasm
*IT’S NOT MELEE*
*IT’S NES*
I think it's just the appearance of the video. TH-cam morons usually prejudge things and if it has more than 1 number on the screen at once, they'll overlook it.
@wiithepeople2 ohshi-
@123698lol Google "Konami VRC6"
@wiithepeople2 Really? You're questioning him? God, you must have been taken a lot of dr*gs then.
:o