@@CreativeSauce Can confirm it has great build quality. Keys feel great, the action is nice, all the buttons, nobs, and sliders feel great. The interface is great as well. Cant wait to mess around with it more!
I REALLY wanted to like this controller but had to return it and get the 61. A lot of what I do when recording is synth-based and the keys are super heavy and for me very unnatural for this type of work. I also play piano and have a hybrid with full length grand piano keys and the KeyLab 88s action was still significantly heavier than that (and a bit squishy feeling). As much as I love piano-like action, I wish they made an 88 key version with the same exact build quality except for the keys that are on the 61 as an option. Anyway, nice video! Glad you are enjoying it!
I bought a 61 a couple of years ago for all the reasons you have covered. The build quality is superb. I did realise quite quickly that I should have gone for the 88 though. Still a great unit nonetheless.
Great video thanx. I bought the keylab essential 49 a bit more than a year ago. I am completely new to music production, and i have somewhat given up on figuring out how to set up the arturia. Im a total novice and would love some tips. If you could make a video on how to set up the keylab in Cakewalk, that would be great. The sliders work fine in the arturia software, but i have been failing to get the sliders, knobs and especially the transport functions working in Cakewalk. Help!! Lol. Also this is my first comment but i also loved your video on Cakewalk. I learned alot
Hi Mike, great vid as always. I own the previous version of the Arturia and love it. My question, though, is not regarding the keyboard but rather your desk. I’ve been searching on and off for a good while for a desk with a pull-out tray that will fit a full 88 key keyboard. Could you share the info on where you found yours?
It's very interesting to see you have made this video Mike. I have just bought the Keylab Essentials 61 and my experience differs greatly from yours. The first thing to mention is that it doesn't hook up with Cakewalk by Bandlab. I have been in touch with support at CW by BL and they told me (two days ago) that they were going to get their engineers to look into it, but so far I have heard nothing. Also, a lot of the included software from Arturia seems to be demo versions, all be it they are very good, but if you want the full versions you need to pay for them. I have to say I have found the down load and install instructions quite confusing, but maybe that is just me. I have spoken to my supplier and they are willing to take it back which to honest could well be what I shall do. At the moment I am not doing much more with this keyboard than I am able to do with my old Yamaha W7 that I bought in '94. It's a shame, because the reason I bought it is for all the reasons you pointed out in your video, i.e. having a remote control over my DAW. Hey ho! these things are sent to try us I guess!
Hi Mike, when you hook this up as a Mackie in Cakewalk, disable handshake. That got it working for me. You will get most of the transport controls with that and a few other things. There is also an alternative Mackie driver available, which supposedly works even better. I have a link, but on my phone right now. I'll try to remember to post it here. In case I forget, email me @ creative.sauce.tube@gmail.com . Not sure about the 61 essential, but certainly for this one the software is full versions.
The Essentials Key Lab is not the same as the upgraded new version - KeyLab II and it does say when you purchase them brand new what software type you are purchasing ie demo/lite version or full which is reflective in the price of what the bundled software is. Just out of interest have did you use CW before BL bought them out or later?
@@MrOnemoreknight0 Ah I see, I just wondered if you were reasonably new to CW. It might be worth looking at the MKII as an alternative and also ask Arturia about supporting CW themselves as the manufacture they may have another work around solution. Hope you get it sorted either way.
I've been using a Yamaha P115, Roland VR-09 and Korg NanoKontrol2 to cover my needs but I think I'll try to trade them in for the KeyLab 88 MkII when the music stores open again. Thanks for giving me a new headache for 2021!
Does anyone have any info on when the Mk3 version of the KeyLab (non-essential) is coming out? And I hope it will have grippier faders and knobs than the Essential Mk3.
TP/100 LR gives me the willies. I went with StudioLogic SL88 Grand instead, with Faderfox Controllers to make up for the lack of cc controllers. Having two Midi Outs is nice, but all that CV stuff on the Arturia is excellent.
Me too. I'm already dealing with a clacky old Fatar keybed and I have a series 1 Keylab61 with possibly the worst keybed i've ever felt. I want to like the TP100/LR, but it worries me.
I researched and tried for myself all of the top-end keyboard controllers when i was looking for one. The Keylab 88 is far and away the best on the market. The keyboard action and feel is utterly superb, very responsive and tactile, the dynamics are incredibly sensitive to different playing techniques and the velocity response is customisable to match your needs in the supplied software. I use the buttons, sliders and knobs to control my synths and the DAW control integretes with Cubase perfectly. Its easy to control the DAW from the Keylab, speeding things up enormously and keepimg the music at your fingertips instead of at your mouse-clicks. Excellent video of a truly excellent keyboard, thanks!
@@vatolegato sorry for the delay, I've only just seen your message. I use it to control my hardware XV-5080 and D-50 and the Arturia V-Collection, Several Cherry Audio instruments, NI Komplete, Roland Cloud Ultimate, the Korg Classic collection and Spitfire Labs. The Keylab 88mk2 is excellent for all of them.
Excellent video! A very informative and well structured review, which covers all important points in just ten minutes! Great! Sanjay C made a video a year ago which was entitled "Arturia Keylab 88 MKii - Is it really the BEST?" Do you refer to that video with the title of your video? Almost looks like...
Normally I'm not suckered in my cosmetics but that looks absolutely beautiful! With such a great feature set behind it it this is going on my "when I win the lottery" list.
Great video Mike. Does the detachable music stand and the platform stand come as standard with the keyboard? Or are these accessories to buy separately?
you have the feeling that they remembered profi musicians with a lot of creativity regarding different working types. I would love a black color for this
Awesome review! I’m deciding between this keyboard and Komplete keyboard s88. I use a lot of native instruments sounds but , I run ProTools. What do you think is a better option? I’ve read that the S 88 is not compatible with ProTools in terms of controls. But I’ve also read that the key quality is better on the S 88.
This is just my opinion, but my S88 (1st Gen), has really weird feeling keys. They're almost a bit too bouncy and artificial feeling. I play somewhere that regularly has a Keylab 88, and I prefer that keybed more than my S88. Actually, the more I play the Keylab, the more I wish I purchased it over my S88. Komplete Kontrol is a Komplete waste. I bought it thinking I was going to use it with Kontakt and the few virtual instruments that actually utilize it, but I rarely do. If I had the Keylab's extra knobs and actual faders, and drum pads, I know I'd use it more for what it was meant to be. To me, the Keylab is just the better product at the end of the day. The 2nd Gen S88 may be way better than my 1st Gen, but I can only speak to what I've used. Best of luck in finding what works for you!
THE FUNCTIONALITY IS GREAT. THE KEYBED AND THE ACTION MAKES YOU 'NOT' WANT TO PLAY BECAUSE ITS HARD TO PLAY. AND IM A PIANIST. CAN YOU FIX THAT IN THE MK3
The greatest weakness of this board is the FATAR action. FATAR actions are terribly unreliable and start wearing down quickly if you play hard or gig with them. I can't tell you how many of these actions I've had come in my shop because the customer complained of noisy, clicky, and broken keys. It's a shame, because Arturia boards are wonderful.
Hi Tod, just wondering -since you seem to be a bit of a pro - what do you make of Studiologic's Numa Nero? I believe this has Fatar TP/400 wood keys. I have the chance to buy one at an ok price (around 270 euros), and I'm hesitating between this and the above Arturia. I know there is a design fault on that Sudiologic, with the modwheel and connections on the side. But I do hear it plays well, when it plays! Also, I don't really need all those faders and knobs on the Arturia. I prefer to have a great keybed and to use my own dedicated faders etc. Anyway, what do you think? Should I go for it? Penny for your thoughts.
@@nads5907 Honestly, I'm not familiar with the Nero because I've never played or worked on one. That said, I would be sure you have time to play it for awhile before you buy one because FATAR actions can be one of those things that people either love or hate. In my experience, they feel great when you play them right off, but once you start really digging into them for several hours, they become fatiguing and somewhat annoying. But like I said, that is subjective. I am somewhat biased because I loathe FATAR actions, especially when it comes to long-term durability, but some people swear by them and love them.
@@todbaldwin4664 Thanks so much for you reply, much appreciated. I don't think you're alone in your loathing of fatar keys. The Studiologics which use them really seem to divide opinion. People either love them or hate them, with very little in between. Outside of fatar keys, what are the good alternatives? I've heard good things about Kawai. I'm guessing Kawai makes its own keys? What is your take on M-Audio's Hammer 88? Seems to be very popular. Any experience with that one? And if so, is it any good? Not sure if M-Audio uses fatar keys. They might do, but for some reason, that particular model seems to escape most people's ire.
Hi Mike I am considering the Mkii 88 controller by Arturia. I would like to know if this unit can be used on stage as a stand-alone piano, with out the nned of a computer?
Morning, compliment for your tutorial. Synthetic but exhaustive, well divided the explanation. Allow me to ask you a few questions. Answer me as the 88 keylab mkii model arrives today. 1) can I use it simultaneously with analoglab "V" by m-audio sound card on mac 27" and with power supply to connect it to the network, using midi out to in expander viscount organ legend? 2) I have a lot of equipment to control, would it be better to buy a device with 2 midi in and 4/5 out midi? 3) I have this configuration: imac retina, 192/6, m-audio card, a korg 4x 76 keys, m-audio oxigen 49, expander ketron sd2, (enough audio outputs with mixer), the 88 mkii coming today . I know the midi falls out, in, thru. But I have doubts as to be able to drive everything with the arturia as master, the korg 4x could be a second master, the m-audio oxygen 49 controller with or expander or plugin hammond software bx3. I am sure of an urgent technical and professional suggestion and the possible configurations. Regard. Modesto
I have both the Mk1 and Mk2. I had get the original repaired a couple of times, but have been generally happy with it. But the Mk2 is SUCH an improvement i is definitely my favorite of all time.
Hi, I just bought it too, because of this video 😉 However, I did not manage to have its DAW mode control Cakewalk. If you did, could you somehow share how you did it please?
Sorry, I am a noob here. Can this be used to learning piano as well ? I mean they connect to software like synthesia and they play and you follow.....I assume ?
I purchased the keylab 88 MKll in May of last although I only received it in early December. It is a very nice controller. The keybed is good, I still prefer my Korg Kronos 73 keybed. My biggest issue being I play a lot of VI guitar is the placement of the bend wheel. Being that it is up at the top of the far side of the board makes it a bit of a pain but I got used to it. One thing I have not found yet though is a way to adjust the sensitivity of the keys action. The Kronos key bed built my fingers up so much that some articulations are triggered by too much velocity when it was not intended. Thanks for doing this Mike, you rule!
Very interesting, I just bought one of these to replace my Kronos 73... How different is the keybed? I've heard mixed reports, that it's a bit too heavy, or a bit spongey? I really like the action on my Kronos, but find it a bit noisy when playing at low volume levels, like the keys are clunking off their bed pads.
@@Teeb2023 It took a little getting used to but after about 3 weeks I got used to the keybed. The velocity sensitivity is what I need to figure out, some of my guitar VST'S are very sensitive and the pinches are too easy to play with too much pressure. I still love the Kronos keybed the best hands down.
Correct me if I'm wrong...I use a StudioLogic SL88 controller and that allows me 4 separate keyboard zones. The Arturia seems to have only just a single keyboard split. If you go 88 keys, 4 controllable zones should be the norm.
Hi Mike, I really want this controller. You mentioned the NI S88 mk2 as alternative, what is your feeling on the difference between the feel of both instruments? I have the original S88 but I’m not impressed. And secondly Cakewalk question, can I create multiple DAW control surfaces with the same Mackie protocol? I can’t seem to get it to work. I have the S88, NI S61 mk2 and a Behringer X-touch that all have DAW controls and would like to use depending at which instrument I’m sitting at the time
Great review! You've earned a new subscriber. In addition to all the pros you mentioned: One aspect that also played a role in my buying the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII were the (separately sold) wooden legs. They look beautiful and turn the controller into a well designed piece of furniture.
yes it will last....but what happens when we change the laptop?... almost every year i upgrade my computer.....worried about licensing issues when change computer........anyone can enlighten?
Hi Mike, I've been looking at this keyboard for a while now. Really like the features. I have most of the Arturia software all ready. My question is as I've seen several have ask is how well does it work with cakewalk. I've been using Cakewalk as I've found all your videos on the software. You mention hooking it up with a Mackie something. can you do a short video on what you are talking about? The transport control to cakewalk is the only thing holding me back from buying one of these.
HI! I haven't shopped for a keyboard in a really long time, so pardon my lack of experience, BUT how do you connect this model to an Amp/speaker system? I don't see a headphone jack and the CV outputs are waaay more than I need, but the keyboard is stunning.
hi! loved that. had a question im looking to buy this keyboard but im confused should i buy digital piano or this midi keyboard , since it has weighted hammer action and many many sound options it looks better deal than a digital piano. btw im okay with using it with a DAW, i mostly use pro tools and Ableton live.
How are you friend, I read that you have the Mk2, I have a Roland fantom x8 synthesizer, I do not use the sounds of it because nowadays the software and virtual instruments are very advanced in sound quality, my question is, the Mk2 are resistant to the keys? because they told me that they are plastic, and my fantom x8 the keys are made of another real piano material, the goal is to buy the Mk2, but I must be sure if it is really robust and resistant both the keys and the quality of the materials? I would appreciate your opinion please friend
While back, picked up Arturia KeyLab 88 original with V collection 6 and Analog Labs, software has been updated. Fantastic Fatar keybed as well. Picked it up for 599 usd with software, giving me a great upgrade path with a quality controller. This newer KeyLab 88 MKII seems to have more IN/OUT like the CV's with some changes to location of pads and sliders. May I ask, is there other aspects I will miss. Next is V collection 8, but have OB-Xa and V 7 already. Thanks for video
@@CreativeSauce Thanks for response. All the best, be safe Mike. Guess we had a president who did not wish to tackle this so we are worse in the world. Sad
How is the keybed holding up in terms of noise? Many sources say that the Fatar TP100 gets noisy overtime because the felt on which the hammers rest gets damaged overtime. I mostly read about the Studiologic SL88 having this problem so I'm wondering if Arturia did better in that department.
That's what I want to know. I just can't decide between this "high-end" controllers since all of them use the same keybed. There are a lot of videos of the S88 mk2 from Native Instruments where this problem is shown. People say that the keybed lose all of it's hammer action after 1 year and some of them comes noisy from factory already. I tested one myself that was like new, less than 10 hours of playing and 1/4 of the keys had a different rattling noise compared to the rest
I think the main issue of this device is that's it's limit to only 3 velocity curves. If you play the piano that may be a huge pita, considering the price point.
Hi. Thank you so much for your amazing videos on Cakewalk. Since the Arturia does not come with Cakewalk as a built-in DAW preset, could you please make a video on how to setup controllers like the Arturia or the M-Audio Hammer 88 to work with Cakewalk. Thanks in advance.
Hello sir, i recently purchased arturia keylab 61 mk2, which cable do i need to connect it with MacBook Pro's thunderbolt 4 port ? A usb type b to type a cable included with arturia.
Hi @CreativeSauce, I would like to know how it goes with Cakewalk, since the MCU seems a little problematic with it. Another point: One can use program change with deep configuration with it? Some Roland modules are very annoying at changing banks and programs...
Sir I have Arturia 49 essential and not able to map any transport controls and buttons with Cubase. Can you pls advice the process.. and what needs to be selected as MIdi control device
Thanks for this helpful video. Do you know of a software package that brings the features of an Arranger Keyboard to a midi controller? These features would include voices, rhythms, the ability to save presets (registrations), and a recording function. Thanks
I'd still consider a Linnstrument, despite it being more expensive and not having controls. It has polyphonic aftertouch (no fatar key bed has it), mpe and all the configurations are done on the unit itself, which makes the device plug and play without the need of drivers.
Hi Mike, have you done much recording with it? I have the Studiologic SL88 Studio which has the same TP100/LR Keybed. I get problems with midi recording as it records what I call ghost notes which is caused by keybounce. The original note plus a much quieter note almost at the same time. These really cause problems with playback especially in Keyscape as the second note can cause a muted effect. I really like this keyboard but don't want to get the same problem.
Hi John, I havnt done any full in depth sessions yet, but I've probably recorded around 20 piano, drum, bass, and string parts, and not had any problem at all. I remember having a drum pad once that played badly in that way. It turned out to be the aftertouch being weird with the instrument. Once I filtered out aftertouch it was fine. Worth a try?
Great video. I have a question. After 4 minutes mine freeze and I have to turn it off and then on again. Why is that happening? Greetings from Switzerland!
I just bought the keylab 49 essential and I am having a really hard time getting it to work with cakewalk. I can use it with Audiolab software, but I get no sound in cakewalk. Any advice?
I bought this about 2 months ago. Very nice quality. I will say that the Roland FP-30, which I have in another part of the house has a better keybed. But the Arturia has so much else going for it as a midi workstation, plus DAW integration. I would be interested to see how much DAW functionality you get out of it. I also have a Presonus SQ, which gives me pretty deep control of Studio One, and is portable to boot. Oh I also got Analog 4 and 5 with the purchase. You didn't get Analog Lab 4?
I've never tried the keylab 88 mk2, but have tried the fp30 and I like the fp30 keybed. Why do you think it's better than the keylab keybed? I've heard some say the keylab action is heavy, spongy, and/or the keys don't return quick enough.
@@vatolegato There's a nice escapement on the Roland you don't have on the Keylab. I do find the keys on the keylab a tad more "plodding", but still good. However, the Keylab seems to have slightly better velocity transmitted through midi. I'm still messing around though. The velocity detection on the piano itself is very good. Might be a midi limitation with this particular piano, or some configuration I have. Its still not bad. If you are looking for a complete solution for midi/daw interaction, the keylab is definitely way better. But it also depends on what you want to do. I also bought a Presonus Atom SQ, which gives pretty deep interaction with Studio One, so I could technically have a nice set up with just the Roland and that. I was playing some nice pianos last night through Arturia's Piano V2, and using the Roland, and it was great. Sustain pedal worked as well. If you have good speakers, it sounds amazing.
@@vatolegato So I've done some more testing and, for me at least, the FP-30 keybed is a fair bit better than the Keylab 88. Now my keylab sits on a tray that rolls out of my desk, and my Roland sits on stand. When I play the Roland, I'm standing up (which I actually prefer), and it could be partly because of this, but the Roland is a fair bit nicer to play. So, I would say that if you do want to get a Keylab for DAW and software synth interaction (knob and fader controls), then you could get a smaller Keylab (maybe the 49 key version), and save room. Are you looking to do any synth stuff? Mind you, the software pianos you can get in VSTs are pretty amazing. The Keylab will come with some software pianos (as well as a ton of synth presets) , plus AbletonLive lite. I prefer StudioOne, but either way, you can also employ some great additional effects. I was playing a Japanese concert grand with some reverb tonight, and it just sounds amazing. If you are not into synths, you can forego the keylab, hook up the FP-30 to your computer, and still play some amazing pianos. You'll just have to get some VSTs or some kind of piano software.
For some reason your response isn't showing up. But here's my response to it: thanks for your thoughts. I am looking to do synth stuff. I already have a kompletr kontrol s61 mk2 for vst synthesizers and I currently use it for a piano vst too (NI grandeur). I want to eventually get an 88 key weighted keyboard and the keylab sounds interesting because of the pads, faders, and knobs and it seems like an all-in-one midi workstation compared to getting separate components. But if the fp30 has a better keybed, then I may as well go for that and just add daw components, pads, etc., to my setup. Though I prefer an all in one solution as it'd be easier and more comfortable to reach for me while sitting at my desk. I currently use abletone live 10 suite and have some VSTs so I'm good to go with sounds.
@@vatolegato Ha, I also never got a notification for this. So, if you want a great keybed, plus control in software for synths, then maybe you should get the Roland and something like the Maschine MK3. But if you want a really nice keybed, you could look at the Kawai VPC1. Apparently has the nicest keybed of any midi keyboard controller (although that's subjective). It's not an electric piano though, like the Roland. So it must be hooked up to a laptop, computer, iPad, etc. Still, the Arturia stuff is very good quality. They are hitting it out of the park recently. Their hardware synths have been getting amazing. The Microfreak, the Polybrute, etc. Amazing stuff. I kind of lust after some hardware synths because of the polyphonic aftertouch in the keybed, which you don't really see in midi keyboards. We'll see how it goes this year. Maybe next year I'll look at something like the Polybrute, the Novation Summit, or the Hydrasynth. The Hydrasynth has polyphonic aftertouch, which is ideal. But the Polybrute has some amazing stuff too, like the morphee and the ribbon controller. Great expressiveness there. Expensive synths though.
I just got this keyboard does anybody know how you can use this as a stand alone without having to power it with a DAW and a laptop or desktop? The guy I got it from told me it’s possible to do that with this board
Thanks for this info! I have had an Akai MPK-88 for years (*not* the Road 88 that seems to have been a disaster) and it has been a great workhorse both in the studio and in the pit (it's pretty heavy, though). The keyboard on the Akai is decent but not great, so I'm wondering if the time has come to move on the the KeyLab Mk 2, and this video will help in that decision.
![Arturia Keylab 88 Mk2 - [REVIEW]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wm3iGIjZYcw/mqdefault.jpg)
![Arturia Keylab 88 Mk2 - [REVIEW]](/img/tr.png)
Purchased this a couple months back
absolutely LOVE THIS KEYBOARD
I was literally just looking at getting this keyboard and this video for sure solidified my choice. Great video by the way!
You won't regret :)
@@CreativeSauce Can confirm it has great build quality. Keys feel great, the action is nice, all the buttons, nobs, and sliders feel great. The interface is great as well. Cant wait to mess around with it more!
You got it already? Congratulations!
Great to see how far your channel has come in the short time it’s been around.
Always rely only on your videos for the best advice
Cheers Isaac! I'm havin a ball too!
I REALLY wanted to like this controller but had to return it and get the 61. A lot of what I do when recording is synth-based and the keys are super heavy and for me very unnatural for this type of work. I also play piano and have a hybrid with full length grand piano keys and the KeyLab 88s action was still significantly heavier than that (and a bit squishy feeling). As much as I love piano-like action, I wish they made an 88 key version with the same exact build quality except for the keys that are on the 61 as an option.
Anyway, nice video! Glad you are enjoying it!
Just got mine this weekend, I can't wait to dive in and learn this keyboard
Still love mine :)
Very well made video! I particularly liked the up-close pan during "connectivity." It was clear and very high quality.
This looks like such an amazing keyboard controller and I think I know now what I will be upgrading to next. Thank you for the great walkthrough! 🙏❤
I bought a 61 a couple of years ago for all the reasons you have covered. The build quality is superb. I did realise quite quickly that I should have gone for the 88 though. Still a great unit nonetheless.
Yes, the 99 essential is good also - and much cheaper!
Hi Mike I could not afford the 88 but purchased the Essentials 49 instead. Thanks for the push in the right direction. Just on reviews I am excited
Great video thanx. I bought the keylab essential 49 a bit more than a year ago. I am completely new to music production, and i have somewhat given up on figuring out how to set up the arturia. Im a total novice and would love some tips.
If you could make a video on how to set up the keylab in Cakewalk, that would be great. The sliders work fine in the arturia software, but i have been failing to get the sliders, knobs and especially the transport functions working in Cakewalk. Help!! Lol. Also this is my first comment but i also loved your video on Cakewalk. I learned alot
Awesome video! Thank you so much for sharing! At 4:23 what are the VU meters on top they look great!
Hi Mike
How well does it integrate with Cakewalk?
Very nice review. Thank you!
Great choice Mike. It's nice to see a white version where you can read the words printed on the keyboard. Oh you are a happy schoolboy. lol. 😜🎶
I am indeed Steve!
DAW control compatible with cakewalk?
I use Arturia Keylab49 mkii as my main midi controller.
Hi Mike, great vid as always. I own the previous version of the Arturia and love it. My question, though, is not regarding the keyboard but rather your desk. I’ve been searching on and off for a good while for a desk with a pull-out tray that will fit a full 88 key keyboard. Could you share the info on where you found yours?
azstudioworkstations
It's very interesting to see you have made this video Mike. I have just bought the Keylab Essentials 61 and my experience differs greatly from yours. The first thing to mention is that it doesn't hook up with Cakewalk by Bandlab. I have been in touch with support at CW by BL and they told me (two days ago) that they were going to get their engineers to look into it, but so far I have heard nothing. Also, a lot of the included software from Arturia seems to be demo versions, all be it they are very good, but if you want the full versions you need to pay for them. I have to say I have found the down load and install instructions quite confusing, but maybe that is just me. I have spoken to my supplier and they are willing to take it back which to honest could well be what I shall do. At the moment I am not doing much more with this keyboard than I am able to do with my old Yamaha W7 that I bought in '94. It's a shame, because the reason I bought it is for all the reasons you pointed out in your video, i.e. having a remote control over my DAW. Hey ho! these things are sent to try us I guess!
Hi Mike, when you hook this up as a Mackie in Cakewalk, disable handshake. That got it working for me. You will get most of the transport controls with that and a few other things.
There is also an alternative Mackie driver available, which supposedly works even better. I have a link, but on my phone right now. I'll try to remember to post it here. In case I forget, email me @ creative.sauce.tube@gmail.com .
Not sure about the 61 essential, but certainly for this one the software is full versions.
The Essentials Key Lab is not the same as the upgraded new version - KeyLab II and it does say when you purchase them brand new what software type you are purchasing ie demo/lite version or full which is reflective in the price of what the bundled software is. Just out of interest have did you use CW before BL bought them out or later?
@@leetronix I have been using Cakewalk for about ten years, so long before Bandlab took them over.
@@MrOnemoreknight0 Ah I see, I just wondered if you were reasonably new to CW. It might be worth looking at the MKII as an alternative and also ask Arturia about supporting CW themselves as the manufacture they may have another work around solution. Hope you get it sorted either way.
Arturia Keystep is my best purchase of 2020. Midi inspired by Creative Sauce and BandLab Cakewalk.
I've been using a Yamaha P115, Roland VR-09 and Korg NanoKontrol2 to cover my needs but I think I'll try to trade them in for the KeyLab 88 MkII when the music stores open again. Thanks for giving me a new headache for 2021!
Didn’t know YT allowed more than one person to use the same handle.
Does anyone have any info on when the Mk3 version of the KeyLab (non-essential) is coming out? And I hope it will have grippier faders and knobs than the Essential Mk3.
TP/100 LR gives me the willies. I went with StudioLogic SL88 Grand instead, with Faderfox Controllers to make up for the lack of cc controllers. Having two Midi Outs is nice, but all that CV stuff on the Arturia is excellent.
Me too. I'm already dealing with a clacky old Fatar keybed and I have a series 1 Keylab61 with possibly the worst keybed i've ever felt. I want to like the TP100/LR, but it worries me.
Arturia mk ii 88keys vs dgx670 88key? Which one is it better?
I researched and tried for myself all of the top-end keyboard controllers when i was looking for one.
The Keylab 88 is far and away the best on the market. The keyboard action and feel is utterly superb, very responsive and tactile, the dynamics are incredibly sensitive to different playing techniques and the velocity response is customisable to match your needs in the supplied software.
I use the buttons, sliders and knobs to control my synths and the DAW control integretes with Cubase perfectly. Its easy to control the DAW from the Keylab, speeding things up enormously and keepimg the music at your fingertips instead of at your mouse-clicks.
Excellent video of a truly excellent keyboard, thanks!
Thanks Paul! Its a joy :)
What synths do you control with it?
@@vatolegato sorry for the delay, I've only just seen your message.
I use it to control my hardware XV-5080 and D-50 and the Arturia V-Collection, Several Cherry Audio instruments, NI Komplete, Roland Cloud Ultimate, the Korg Classic collection and Spitfire Labs.
The Keylab 88mk2 is excellent for all of them.
Great information Mike. Thanks. As I recall, it comes in a great box too. ;)
Excellent video! A very informative and well structured review, which covers all important points in just ten minutes! Great! Sanjay C made a video a year ago which was entitled "Arturia Keylab 88 MKii - Is it really the BEST?" Do you refer to that video with the title of your video? Almost looks like...
Great review Mike - looks like a solid, well thought out bit of kit. Hope you have many happy years together :-)
Love your channel
3:38
What is the height of the pull-out drawer?
Normally I'm not suckered in my cosmetics but that looks absolutely beautiful! With such a great feature set behind it it this is going on my "when I win the lottery" list.
Great video Mike. Does the detachable music stand and the platform stand come as standard with the keyboard? Or are these accessories to buy separately?
Hey, thanks for watching. They come as standard :)
you have the feeling that they remembered profi musicians with a lot of creativity regarding different working types. I would love a black color for this
Awesome review! I’m deciding between this keyboard and Komplete keyboard s88. I use a lot of native instruments sounds but , I run ProTools. What do you think is a better option? I’ve read that the S 88 is not compatible with ProTools in terms of controls. But I’ve also read that the key quality is better on the S 88.
This is just my opinion, but my S88 (1st Gen), has really weird feeling keys. They're almost a bit too bouncy and artificial feeling. I play somewhere that regularly has a Keylab 88, and I prefer that keybed more than my S88. Actually, the more I play the Keylab, the more I wish I purchased it over my S88. Komplete Kontrol is a Komplete waste. I bought it thinking I was going to use it with Kontakt and the few virtual instruments that actually utilize it, but I rarely do. If I had the Keylab's extra knobs and actual faders, and drum pads, I know I'd use it more for what it was meant to be. To me, the Keylab is just the better product at the end of the day. The 2nd Gen S88 may be way better than my 1st Gen, but I can only speak to what I've used. Best of luck in finding what works for you!
Thanks for video!I've made the decision for arturia. Proly get the 25 II tho
That's what I have. MK II Black. Still great (Though, now that I'm exploring Orchestral and other genres as well, I require more keys.)
Thankyou so much, extremely helpful video!
THE FUNCTIONALITY IS GREAT. THE KEYBED AND THE ACTION MAKES YOU 'NOT' WANT TO PLAY BECAUSE ITS HARD TO PLAY. AND IM A PIANIST. CAN YOU FIX THAT IN THE MK3
Wrong location for the faders… the rest, just perfect
Does it fly and have homing rockets?
The greatest weakness of this board is the FATAR action. FATAR actions are terribly unreliable and start wearing down quickly if you play hard or gig with them. I can't tell you how many of these actions I've had come in my shop because the customer complained of noisy, clicky, and broken keys. It's a shame, because Arturia boards are wonderful.
Hi Tod, just wondering -since you seem to be a bit of a pro - what do you make of Studiologic's Numa Nero? I believe this has Fatar TP/400 wood keys. I have the chance to buy one at an ok price (around 270 euros), and I'm hesitating between this and the above Arturia. I know there is a design fault on that Sudiologic, with the modwheel and connections on the side. But I do hear it plays well, when it plays! Also, I don't really need all those faders and knobs on the Arturia. I prefer to have a great keybed and to use my own dedicated faders etc.
Anyway, what do you think? Should I go for it? Penny for your thoughts.
@@nads5907 Honestly, I'm not familiar with the Nero because I've never played or worked on one. That said, I would be sure you have time to play it for awhile before you buy one because FATAR actions can be one of those things that people either love or hate. In my experience, they feel great when you play them right off, but once you start really digging into them for several hours, they become fatiguing and somewhat annoying. But like I said, that is subjective. I am somewhat biased because I loathe FATAR actions, especially when it comes to long-term durability, but some people swear by them and love them.
@@todbaldwin4664 Thanks so much for you reply, much appreciated.
I don't think you're alone in your loathing of fatar keys. The Studiologics which use them really seem to divide opinion. People either love them or hate them, with very little in between.
Outside of fatar keys, what are the good alternatives? I've heard good things about Kawai. I'm guessing Kawai makes its own keys?
What is your take on M-Audio's Hammer 88? Seems to be very popular. Any experience with that one? And if so, is it any good?
Not sure if M-Audio uses fatar keys. They might do, but for some reason, that particular model seems to escape most people's ire.
What's wonderful about them if the keybed is bad? Just another generic MIDI controller with a sub-par keybed wrapped up in a nice box.
I own a controller Studiologic Sl73 with the same Fatar ation. I agree with you : it's really horrible.
Awesome video man! Could you please tell me the name of the background music used during 3:23 - 4:29 ?
Hi Mike
I am considering the Mkii 88 controller by Arturia. I would like to know if this unit can be used on stage as a stand-alone piano, with out the nned of a computer?
Hi Daniel. It in itself has no on-board sounds. So it either needs to be used with a computer, or another midi device that has sound.
Morning, compliment for your tutorial. Synthetic but exhaustive, well divided the explanation. Allow me to ask you a few questions. Answer me as the 88 keylab mkii model arrives today. 1) can I use it simultaneously with analoglab "V" by m-audio sound card on mac 27" and with power supply to connect it to the network, using midi out to in expander viscount organ legend? 2) I have a lot of equipment to control, would it be better to buy a device with 2 midi in and 4/5 out midi? 3) I have this configuration: imac retina, 192/6, m-audio card, a korg 4x 76 keys, m-audio oxigen 49, expander ketron sd2, (enough audio outputs with mixer), the 88 mkii coming today . I know the midi falls out, in, thru. But I have doubts as to be able to drive everything with the arturia as master, the korg 4x could be a second master, the m-audio oxygen 49 controller with or expander or plugin hammond software bx3. I am sure of an urgent technical and professional suggestion and the possible configurations.
Regard. Modesto
I have both the Mk1 and Mk2. I had get the original repaired a couple of times, but have been generally happy with it. But the Mk2 is SUCH an improvement i is definitely my favorite of all time.
Every single thing I've ever bought from Artutia has broken and either was repaired or just junked.
Hi, I just bought it too, because of this video 😉
However, I did not manage to have its DAW mode control Cakewalk. If you did, could you somehow share how you did it please?
Sorry, I am a noob here. Can this be used to learning piano as well ? I mean they connect to software like synthesia and they play and you follow.....I assume ?
I purchased the keylab 88 MKll in May of last although I only received it in early December. It is a very nice controller. The keybed is good, I still prefer my Korg Kronos 73 keybed. My biggest issue being I play a lot of VI guitar is the placement of the bend wheel. Being that it is up at the top of the far side of the board makes it a bit of a pain but I got used to it. One thing I have not found yet though is a way to adjust the sensitivity of the keys action. The Kronos key bed built my fingers up so much that some articulations are triggered by too much velocity when it was not intended. Thanks for doing this Mike, you rule!
Very interesting, I just bought one of these to replace my Kronos 73... How different is the keybed? I've heard mixed reports, that it's a bit too heavy, or a bit spongey? I really like the action on my Kronos, but find it a bit noisy when playing at low volume levels, like the keys are clunking off their bed pads.
@@Teeb2023 It took a little getting used to but after about 3 weeks I got used to the keybed. The velocity sensitivity is what I need to figure out, some of my guitar VST'S are very sensitive and the pinches are too easy to play with too much pressure.
I still love the Kronos keybed the best hands down.
Correct me if I'm wrong...I use a StudioLogic SL88 controller and that allows me 4 separate keyboard zones. The Arturia seems to have only just a single keyboard split. If you go 88 keys, 4 controllable zones should be the norm.
Hi Mike, I really want this controller. You mentioned the NI S88 mk2 as alternative, what is your feeling on the difference between the feel of both instruments? I have the original S88 but I’m not impressed. And secondly Cakewalk question, can I create multiple DAW control surfaces with the same Mackie protocol? I can’t seem to get it to work. I have the S88, NI S61 mk2 and a Behringer X-touch that all have DAW controls and would like to use depending at which instrument I’m sitting at the time
Great review! You've earned a new subscriber. In addition to all the pros you mentioned: One aspect that also played a role in my buying the Arturia KeyLab 88 MKII were the (separately sold) wooden legs. They look beautiful and turn the controller into a well designed piece of furniture.
I returned mine. The keys are so heavy to get full sound. My M Audio 88 Pro arrives tomorrow and can’t wait!
...I found the Arturia keybed akin to playing through a heavy wool blanket...how has the M Audio turned out?
yes it will last....but what happens when we change the laptop?... almost every year i upgrade my computer.....worried about licensing issues when change computer........anyone can enlighten?
Hi Mike, I've been looking at this keyboard for a while now. Really like the features. I have most of the
Arturia software all ready. My question is as I've seen several have ask is how well does it work with cakewalk. I've been using Cakewalk as I've found all your videos on the software. You mention hooking it up with a Mackie something. can you do a short video on what you are talking about? The transport control to cakewalk is the only thing holding me back from buying one of these.
HI! I haven't shopped for a keyboard in a really long time, so pardon my lack of experience, BUT how do you connect this model to an Amp/speaker system? I don't see a headphone jack and the CV outputs are waaay more than I need, but the keyboard is stunning.
I want to purchase this keyboard .
Thank you for info.. really helpful video..
I lust after one of these. Got a 61 essential, but not so keen on the keyboard. Cheers for ths review :-)
Stay Lit, Mike 🔥
Excellent mate you helped me make a decision on which to buy the Arthuria or M Audio S 88
hi! loved that. had a question im looking to buy this keyboard but im confused should i buy digital piano or this midi keyboard , since it has weighted hammer action and many many sound options it looks better deal than a digital piano. btw im okay with using it with a DAW, i mostly use pro tools and Ableton live.
will it work with cakewalk?
Great job buddy so I just subscribed. Cheers Ricky 💃🕺🏼🎶🐈⬛🎸💃🎶
Aftertouch ? And how many instruments can we play in layers in same time ? Thanks
How are you friend, I read that you have the Mk2, I have a Roland fantom x8 synthesizer, I do not use the sounds of it because nowadays the software and virtual instruments are very advanced in sound quality, my question is, the Mk2 are resistant to the keys? because they told me that they are plastic, and my fantom x8 the keys are made of another real piano material, the goal is to buy the Mk2, but I must be sure if it is really robust and resistant both the keys and the quality of the materials? I would appreciate your opinion please friend
While back, picked up Arturia KeyLab 88 original with V collection 6 and Analog Labs, software has been updated. Fantastic Fatar keybed as well. Picked it up for 599 usd with software, giving me a great upgrade path with a quality controller. This newer KeyLab 88 MKII seems to have more IN/OUT like the CV's with some changes to location of pads and sliders. May I ask, is there other aspects I will miss. Next is V collection 8, but have OB-Xa and V 7 already. Thanks for video
You still have an awesome keyboard. I think the differences are as you say. I wouldn't see a need to upgrade.
@@CreativeSauce Thanks for response. All the best, be safe Mike.
Guess we had a president who did not wish to tackle this so we are worse in the world. Sad
Is it compatible with other plugins from other brands?
Great video as always Mike. Those 88 weighted keys made me jealous though ....ah.... maybe one day. 🤪👍
Can you hear the keys clunk? Are they noisy? Thats the one thing I cant stand about my current yamaha wighted keyboard.
How is the keybed holding up in terms of noise? Many sources say that the Fatar TP100 gets noisy overtime because the felt on which the hammers rest gets damaged overtime. I mostly read about the Studiologic SL88 having this problem so I'm wondering if Arturia did better in that department.
That's what I want to know. I just can't decide between this "high-end" controllers since all of them use the same keybed. There are a lot of videos of the S88 mk2 from Native Instruments where this problem is shown. People say that the keybed lose all of it's hammer action after 1 year and some of them comes noisy from factory already. I tested one myself that was like new, less than 10 hours of playing and 1/4 of the keys had a different rattling noise compared to the rest
I’ve had it for three years and I practice ALOT and so far no problem !!!!
I think the main issue of this device is that's it's limit to only 3 velocity curves. If you play the piano that may be a huge pita, considering the price point.
Its a good point. In honesty, I tend to adjust the velocity curves on my virtual instruments rather than on the hardware.
Hi. Thank you so much for your amazing videos on Cakewalk. Since the Arturia does not come with Cakewalk as a built-in DAW preset, could you please make a video on how to setup controllers like the Arturia or the M-Audio Hammer 88 to work with Cakewalk.
Thanks in advance.
Hello sir, i recently purchased arturia keylab 61 mk2, which cable do i need to connect it with MacBook Pro's thunderbolt 4 port ? A usb type b to type a cable included with arturia.
can you use the DC connector to provide power to the keyboard so that way it doesn't drain your computer's battery?
Hi @CreativeSauce, I would like to know how it goes with Cakewalk, since the MCU seems a little problematic with it.
Another point: One can use program change with deep configuration with it? Some Roland modules are very annoying at changing banks and programs...
Do you have a video hot set up the mapping in Studio One?
Sir I have Arturia 49 essential and not able to map any transport controls and buttons with Cubase. Can you pls advice the process.. and what needs to be selected as MIdi control device
Thanks for this helpful video. Do you know of a software package that brings the features of an Arranger Keyboard to a midi controller? These features would include voices, rhythms, the ability to save presets (registrations), and a recording function. Thanks
is the 12v charer sold with it? what do u do when you loose plastic cards? Can we reorder them?
CV interface is a great addition, but what’s with the mini jacks?
Hi there, comparing the Lab88 to the NI S88 which one keyboard out of the two have more weight on the keys? Thanks.
I had to check the price even though I already knew it would be in pipedream territory with my budget. I can dream though...
It's actually not badly priced!
Thats a Nice Furniture Desk. Who makes it? Now that I know the Arturia will fit.
I'd still consider a Linnstrument, despite it being more expensive and not having controls. It has polyphonic aftertouch (no fatar key bed has it), mpe and all the configurations are done on the unit itself, which makes the device plug and play without the need of drivers.
Hi Mike, have you done much recording with it? I have the Studiologic SL88 Studio which has the same TP100/LR Keybed. I get problems with midi recording as it records what I call ghost notes which is caused by keybounce. The original note plus a much quieter note almost at the same time. These really cause problems with playback especially in Keyscape as the second note can cause a muted effect. I really like this keyboard but don't want to get the same problem.
Hi John, I havnt done any full in depth sessions yet, but I've probably recorded around 20 piano, drum, bass, and string parts, and not had any problem at all.
I remember having a drum pad once that played badly in that way. It turned out to be the aftertouch being weird with the instrument. Once I filtered out aftertouch it was fine. Worth a try?
Great video.
I have a question. After 4 minutes mine freeze and I have to turn it off and then on again.
Why is that happening?
Greetings from Switzerland!
Does 61 key too have all the same features...?
Another great video . Is it compatible with Cakewalk ? Be good to see a video showing how to set it up.
I just bought the keylab 49 essential and I am having a really hard time getting it to work with cakewalk. I can use it with Audiolab software, but I get no sound in cakewalk. Any advice?
Should I go for black or white?
I have the 61 key version :D
I bought this about 2 months ago. Very nice quality. I will say that the Roland FP-30, which I have in another part of the house has a better keybed. But the Arturia has so much else going for it as a midi workstation, plus DAW integration.
I would be interested to see how much DAW functionality you get out of it. I also have a Presonus SQ, which gives me pretty deep control of Studio One, and is portable to boot.
Oh I also got Analog 4 and 5 with the purchase. You didn't get Analog Lab 4?
I've never tried the keylab 88 mk2, but have tried the fp30 and I like the fp30 keybed. Why do you think it's better than the keylab keybed? I've heard some say the keylab action is heavy, spongy, and/or the keys don't return quick enough.
@@vatolegato There's a nice escapement on the Roland you don't have on the Keylab. I do find the keys on the keylab a tad more "plodding", but still good. However, the Keylab seems to have slightly better velocity transmitted through midi. I'm still messing around though. The velocity detection on the piano itself is very good. Might be a midi limitation with this particular piano, or some configuration I have. Its still not bad.
If you are looking for a complete solution for midi/daw interaction, the keylab is definitely way better. But it also depends on what you want to do. I also bought a Presonus Atom SQ, which gives pretty deep interaction with Studio One, so I could technically have a nice set up with just the Roland and that.
I was playing some nice pianos last night through Arturia's Piano V2, and using the Roland, and it was great. Sustain pedal worked as well. If you have good speakers, it sounds amazing.
@@vatolegato So I've done some more testing and, for me at least, the FP-30 keybed is a fair bit better than the Keylab 88. Now my keylab sits on a tray that rolls out of my desk, and my Roland sits on stand. When I play the Roland, I'm standing up (which I actually prefer), and it could be partly because of this, but the Roland is a fair bit nicer to play. So, I would say that if you do want to get a Keylab for DAW and software synth interaction (knob and fader controls), then you could get a smaller Keylab (maybe the 49 key version), and save room. Are you looking to do any synth stuff? Mind you, the software pianos you can get in VSTs are pretty amazing. The Keylab will come with some software pianos (as well as a ton of synth presets) , plus AbletonLive lite. I prefer StudioOne, but either way, you can also employ some great additional effects. I was playing a Japanese concert grand with some reverb tonight, and it just sounds amazing. If you are not into synths, you can forego the keylab, hook up the FP-30 to your computer, and still play some amazing pianos. You'll just have to get some VSTs or some kind of piano software.
For some reason your response isn't showing up. But here's my response to it:
thanks for your thoughts. I am looking to do synth stuff. I already have a kompletr kontrol s61 mk2 for vst synthesizers and I currently use it for a piano vst too (NI grandeur).
I want to eventually get an 88 key weighted keyboard and the keylab sounds interesting because of the pads, faders, and knobs and it seems like an all-in-one midi workstation compared to getting separate components. But if the fp30 has a better keybed, then I may as well go for that and just add daw components, pads, etc., to my setup. Though I prefer an all in one solution as it'd be easier and more comfortable to reach for me while sitting at my desk.
I currently use abletone live 10 suite and have some VSTs so I'm good to go with sounds.
@@vatolegato Ha, I also never got a notification for this. So, if you want a great keybed, plus control in software for synths, then maybe you should get the Roland and something like the Maschine MK3. But if you want a really nice keybed, you could look at the Kawai VPC1. Apparently has the nicest keybed of any midi keyboard controller (although that's subjective). It's not an electric piano though, like the Roland. So it must be hooked up to a laptop, computer, iPad, etc.
Still, the Arturia stuff is very good quality. They are hitting it out of the park recently. Their hardware synths have been getting amazing. The Microfreak, the Polybrute, etc. Amazing stuff. I kind of lust after some hardware synths because of the polyphonic aftertouch in the keybed, which you don't really see in midi keyboards. We'll see how it goes this year. Maybe next year I'll look at something like the Polybrute, the Novation Summit, or the Hydrasynth. The Hydrasynth has polyphonic aftertouch, which is ideal. But the Polybrute has some amazing stuff too, like the morphee and the ribbon controller. Great expressiveness there. Expensive synths though.
The only one I've seen with more outputs would probably be the Physis K4ex from Viscount in Italy. I think that unit has 8 MIDI Outs and 8 Pedal Outs.
I just got this keyboard does anybody know how you can use this as a stand alone without having to power it with a DAW and a laptop or desktop? The guy I got it from told me it’s possible to do that with this board
Do the three aux pedal inputs only support switch-style pedals, or can one or more be used as an additional expression pedal input?
Hi Mike.
If you were going with a midi keyboard, would you consider the Arturia keylab 88 over the Montage by Yamaha or the Fantom by Roland?
I’ve a mk1. It’s great but is the 2 better and in what ways?
COuld you suggest some affordable all purpose desk with placement for the keboard under?
Is there an built in arpegiattor on this keyboard??
Thanks for this info! I have had an Akai MPK-88 for years (*not* the Road 88 that seems to have been a disaster) and it has been a great workhorse both in the studio and in the pit (it's pretty heavy, though). The keyboard on the Akai is decent but not great, so I'm wondering if the time has come to move on the the KeyLab Mk 2, and this video will help in that decision.
Seems the mod and pitch wheels are a little to far away. I'd have to play it to know for sure. What do you think having played it?
Well, I have kind long arms :) But, well it felt normal I suppose.
@@CreativeSauce thanks, love your videos!
Keylab mk2 or essential mk3 who is better?
Keylab mk2 for sure.
@@CreativeSauce finally an answer 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😎👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 thank you! And i wish you a good day!
Great video, thank you. What is the mic stand here please?