To quote her words in difference between her and blue ver. Blue puts on more armor upon ascension, while black takes off more. She looks and fights like F/SN HF ver Saber Alter, but in CD drama and others, she behaves more like F/HA ver, 100% junk food junkie who will not hesitate to blast off her NP if anyone stands between her and her nuggets or burger. Ayako Kawasumi-san was voicing four different Sabers in a drama I just heard (blue, white, black and Sakura). If she says she did that in single shot, I wouldn't be surprised either.
My bad. Okita, not Sakura^^; And they were already complaining they couldn't bring in Kugyu "Nero" just because they used up all budget to bring in Miyuki "Mo-san" Sawashiro.
Liesha Cichol Sakura Saber is Okita Souji tho But its fine, it is indeed confusing at first Btw, the drama.cd is up on my channel and its translated with visuals -shamelessadvertising-
I just summoned Alter the other day. I'm so happy cuz the only saber I had was Saber Lily and she suuuuuucks. Gonna max out Alter as quickly as possible.
Literally my only gold Saber (Lilly doesn't count.) She puts in good work and hits hard. Charisma is still halfway decent imo because any attack buff is good.
G&A Reviews I know she's not out yet but can you give me a quick run down on your thoughts of Ryougi Shiki Assassin? I've been saving all of my materials for this character and I'd like to double check to see if she's worth it. I was going to Grail her and max her status up. Do you think it would be worth it with that insta kill?
YumoKanzaki I can do that for ya. Shiki assassin is one of the three 4* assassins in chapter 1 and possibly the best. Typical assassin setup with high damage output with crits and a decently spammable np that has a chance of insta-death. Her first skill decreases one targets resistance and increases her arts dmg. Her 2nd skill gives her an evade for one turn and ups her crit dmg. And her third skill sacrifices hp for np gauge. QQAAB is her deck and pairing her with debuffers or crit production team will work out.
Those updated animations are so bad ass, that sword flip :D I really hope in the future that she can get some strengthening quests to boost her skills a bit. Maybe when the Heaven's Feel movies are released they can give her some love. Thanks G&A for the review & tips. Made the early mistake of level her charisma instead of mana burst oh well. Anyways she is my pride & joy. I have some friend spots open so if u wanna try a grail lvl.90 NP4 13k atk Salter feel free to add me. 363,841,055
Thanks! I would love that but my friends list is full currently lol. And yea I would love to see an upgrade to her instinct skill, like actually making it fit the lore by giving her an evade
G&A Reviews oh no worries. Even the possibility of you on my friend list would be awesome whenever. Also I'll try to make it to one of your streams...though I may be laughing too hard to pay attention with all the hentai and loli discussions.
@@Croiri yeah sorry my list is full atm & mostly everyone still active. My Salter is fully built now with max fou, np.5, max skills so feel free to try her out. Since Oniland is happening she'll be in my general support list.
So funny story about Salter here. I am new to FGO but my luck seems good. I even got Heracles on my first pull and he's been very useful. I just finished Nero's Singularity and pretty much fell in love with her. Nero is adorable in a number of ways and I wanted to try for her. I saved up 90 SQ and was feeling lucky so went to pull for her in the Story SQ Summon...I WAS SO CLOSE! I was pulling for just about everyone from that Singularity except Nero! Was getting Romulus, Leonidas, even Caesar! Was losing hope and SQ but then on my last pull, on the final card...BOOM! Saber Alter. I couldn't believe it. Though I still want Nero dearly, can't deny that I am satisfied with this. Looking forward to more of FGO now more than ever.
I got her pretty early on, she is in my opinion the best Saber servant right now. She is certainly the most well designed servant, she looks super cool. Definitely going to grail her and get her to level 90.
Man I watch all of these thinking it'd be nice to have the servants and then boom, Salter comes in my roll. I'm super hyped to use her, thanks for the guide!
I got Saber Alter off of a ticket I decided to use on a whim, and then recently I got another copy. As for the analysis, I agree with it, great work as always!
Another technique I use for saber alter is pairing her with cu alter and mash since mash can provide defensive buffs and cu alter can limit attack and critical damage to keep saber alter alive when fighting against regular enemies and not bosses. She struggles in boss fights so if that happens pair her with a good caster so that one of them can provide defensive and offensive buffs to protect her and increase her attack. Saber alter to me is like a black hawk helicopter that does modest damage but with more weaponry provided she can become dangerous to most enemies she comes across.
A grailed Saber Alter has a higher attack stat than a grailed Saber Arturia. So if you have Alter at NP5 or something, and don't mind spending 2 extra grails to get her to level 100, feel free to grail her.
I actually just rolled her last night so I'm surprised and happy for the spot light. I was very happy with your Orion review as it helped me decide that maybe I should wait for Nobunaga (a character I am passionate about in almost any form) rather then go too hard for a male buster. Thankfully one of my close friends got her as one of his very first servants anyway, haha. Thank you or the reviews, please keep it up, very informative stuff.
Remember how I mentioned ending up whaling for Kintoki? Yeah, still no Saber Alter That's fine though I suppose. I already know who I'm gonna want for my sabers
You forgot to mention about her Bond CE, wich in my bias opinion since i have her at lvl 100 10 10 10 Np2 on JP server, is one of the best Bond CEs on the game. 30% damage up on her NP and a 30% chance to decrease the enemy defense on each attack.
i really hope she gets a strengthening quest. Changing her Instinct B to something like Lalters Blessings from the End of the World A. It'd be much better for Salter to have a skill like that. she hits hard and having a crit modifier would do wonders. personally I'd want Instinct to be completely removed from FGO cause it is pretty useless outside of Mozarts where he drops a crap ton. any instinct like abilities should have a bonus with it. like Lancelot (Saber)
my startegy since i got saber alter is team her up with gil and waver, get her np in the first few rounds, and on the final round buff her attack the fuck up with gil, waver, her skills and the master spell, use her np and one shot whatever the enemy is, Works everytime
I'm so glad that I got her today! Seriously, having to stick with Gawain as my only AoE Saber up until now was really a pain (Nothing against my beloved sunbro, but I really want to see an NP upgrade for him).
He doesn't get an NP upgrade, but in 2 years he gets a buff that allows him to create his own sunshine so that he can get his whole set of buffs everywhere, making him infinitely more viable.
Same here. I only have gawain as saber*4 rank on my Chaldea and bunch of bedivere at most the time. Roliing for saber banner but didnt work out well. Still get third rate servant. Finally, get the chance to summon her yesterday with the free sr ticket.
I saw that there was a daily rate up for waver today and decided to give it a go. Like sure why not. Didn't roll Waiver but got her and 2 of the CE u mentioned for her. After watching this I'm extremely happy.
I've had the game for a week and managed in only two 10-rolls (including the mandatory one) to get Herc, Martha, and then two Saber Alters in the same 10-roll. Your review is much appreciated advice and here's hoping my luck stays that good.
Back when the English version was coming out, I decided that I would reroll for Alter. I have Arturia on the Japanese version so I thought to roll for Alter to differentiate it a bit. That also meant I had to redo Fuyuki over and over again. It took me 3 days. By then I had accounts with Vlad NP2, Jeannes and Arturias that I gave away to my friends or random people. When I did the last roll I got Arturia and right after that I got Alter and my heart skipped a few beats when it happened. I got both!
I got her just before i even started the fuyuki map (last year) and now she reached 70 with final stage on it and boi she is worth it (despite her cons that you just mention good sir)
Well the issue on her rarity is that unless she is featured, she isn't on the limited banners only on the normal banner. Which expands over time as well.
Thank God I got her in NA acc last night, thanks to 1 Million Download pool. She is my 1st gold servant that come to me since tutorial summoning LoL. And I already have her in JPN acc.
I just summoned her. The best way to use her is to keep her in reserve. Once you get to the second or third wave of any mission with kaleidoscope as your craft essence you easily get her noble phantasm. When that happens buff her attack, use your master attack skill on her and then activate her noble phantasm on the final wave and then use any beserker to clear up the rest of the enemies. It works wonders. If you keep her at the start of any mission she is at risk of getting killed on the third wave because you may have used up the noble phantasm clearing the second wave of enemies.
Summoned her and she already replaced my lev 70 Siegfried at lev 60 ! She's a BEAST ! I'm so happy i summoned her since i got no 5* saber so far .... Take me to the dark side Alter !
The one thing missing in this review is that if you compare her to her Original, you also need to point out that if you grail her to 100, her Attack goes up to 12,408 compared to Original's 12,283. Most other Servants dont need this, but if you do make a direct comparision, it is important. Even if you only Grail her to 90, her 11,324 is slightly higher than Original's 11,221.
Really happy I rolled her. She's hard to ascend but it's so worth it. I wish I got a copy to boost her crazy np. Don't have any 5 stars yet but she and Emiya have been doing me pretty solid.
Did a few yolos and managed to get not just one but TWO Saber Alters. I also rolled a Kintoki, so I get to save quite a bit of quartz for Drake coming up.
If your original Artoria is only NP1 then Salter will outdamage her so she may be better now, but Arotria will be better in the long run once she gets her next buf
Currently, I have her equipped with Seal Designation Enforcer which lets you get a bit more oomph out of her second skill or have another servant that can get a bunch of crit stars
I have Saber Alter, Helena on my second roll and have very lucky Emiya, Sieg and Chev d Eon. I'm a free to player, I have 3 sabers just been 3 days of playing with saber to level up first. Well which one to level first.
@@GAReviews Emiya, Thank you. I've have bought saint quartz just to try it and rolled Nero, Nero Bride and Nitocris then on the story summon are Elisabeth, Marie and Stheno. Looking at the rates for I was expecting 3 star servants or 4 star craft essence, very lucky rolls or just beginners luck. I will watch your servant guides.
Thanks! Carmilla will probably be sometime in October, because after Atalanta and Waver I'm doing spotlights for all the Okeanos servants before the new chapter is released
I'm surprised you didn't mention how she's an excellent choice to use your grails on, since using them gives her higher attack than base Arturia. That combined with how lackluster Arturia really is makes her a better choice IMO. Good thing she's a rate up right now.
I completely overlooked it because it isn't something I usually go into on these videos. But I will be making a grail guide video on the best servants to grail as well as the way growth curves work
How curious... My Saber Alter animations look different from what you showcase here. They're reminiscent of like Kojiro's or Siegfried's. Will they change as I "ascend" her? Great vids, btw! I just started playing last week, and find your guides very, very useful.
Oh, awesome! Thanks for the info. Trying hard to get as many of my friends to play FGO as as I can. Will definitely watch and hit the like button on all your vids.
wew, the Magnificent Saber Alter.. i'm lucky to get Her quite early in the game.. for all lancer battle quest i always bring her along with Altera and d'Eon to finish the wave, or maybe sometimes pairing her with Waver to all around battle, and her NP never dissappoint me
Manage to get her in KRT banner. Glad that I got her. She's actually one of my Servants wishlist. Got her at max ascension and lvl in just 3 days. I really happy now that I have another Servant with Dragon trait just so I could have Jalter's team.
I would reccomend saber alter to be paired up with mash for defense, Merlin for healing, gilgamesh for charisma and attack bonuses, and throw in some beserkers like cu alter and heracles for attack and clean up of remaining enemy units that are difficult to kill.
I caved and whaled bc I really wanted either S.alter or Artoria. Spent $80 but managed to pull s.alter, kaleidoscope, and Jeanne as well for my troubles x.x Only other time I'm planning on whaling again is when Lancelot goes on rate up again bc he's my fav.
I tried rolling for Merlin and got one of those summons that sparked up...but it was...Saber Alter? Even though she wasn't on the banner? Sure hope she doesn't disappoint.
During kintoki's gacha, I was trying to get alter, but ended up getting 5 star saber on my first roll. My younger brother was pissed because he wanted her. He got payback because he got Kintoki on his first roll
Hi I play on the US version and I got her a little while ago, I have her with my waver. but I'm trying to find her a good CE, but I don't have any of the ones you mentioned. but I do have the black grail. would pairing her with that be a good choice? also on a side note I have two black grails should I keep them apart or should I fuse them?
If you don' have any of the ones I mentioned then yea Black Grail will be decent on her, but I would pair her with someone like Martha or Hans too so he can heal the damage from Black Grail. And yes, keep them separate. Generally it is better to always keep the CE separate until you get 5 so you can limit break one of them
I pulled for Artoria Alter even though I have Artoria already. I got another Artoria first pull and was like, thanks game but where's Artoria Alter? 240 quarts and 20 tickets later I got her. Good lord it was rough! So glad I have her though. Next goal is Brynhildr~
For people finding this months to years later. This isn't true unless you plan to grail Alter Altria. Alter Altria has an 8.8% advantage with her NP modifier (450 vs 400%). With both capped, Alter Altria has a 10% disadvantage in Attack (10248 vs 11221) Her Charisma skill is 6% lower (12% versus 18%) So at level cap: Altria is a better damage dealer than Saber Alter by 8-10% NP and 16% normal attacks. If you grail Alter Altria twice to 90, they roughly break even with Charisma up and Alter Altria wins by 6% with Charisma down. At 100, grailed. Alter Altria wins in everything by around 5% if charisma is up. By closer to 10% with Charisma down. If you each to 100 (Alter Altria has 12408 and Altria has 12283 attack), Alter Altria will win by 2% if Charisma is up and 8% without it. There's never a huge difference between them unless you level NPs, and with Altria having banners to herself and Alter Altria being rare and always sharing it with multiple 4 stars, they're not harder to pull than one another. And unlike a grailed Haracles who genuinely competes with top tier 5 star berserkers, a grailed Alter is just slightly better than the worst 5 star saber... sometimes, if grailed, or whaled.
Mashu/SUPPORT Merlin/Salter is my golden combo. I actually got Salter even before finishing Fuyuki (but on the other hand, I just managed to get a second copy of her during the Shinjuku banner).
Congrats, and if you really want him I would suggest rolling. But keep in mind there are a ton of big gachas coming up within the next 4 months (Drake, Tamamo, Okita, Jack, Mordred, Scat)
I feel so confused. I got alter right after fuyuki, but yesterday I got the 5* Saber from a single quartz roll. I used to think Salter was the best, but the 5* really is a much better rounder servant. I guess I will just keep leveling up her bonding level, she is 6 1/2 now.
I am leveling 3 main characters to get their max bond CEs. EMIYA, Salter and Hercules. The other 2 slots I use characters to level their bonds to get their Interlude quests. I guess when I get access to all interludes I will start also using Saber as a main backup. PS: I got a Black Holy Grail (sp?) yesterday, Salters Noble Phantasm is beastly with it.
Waver spotlight will be up next week, probably Wednesday. I'm already working on it. I would say an S class servant would be a servant capable of just breaking the game or redefining the meta, servants like Merlin, Waver, Jeanne Alter and maybe a couple others.
G&A Reviews What makes them so game breaking? Also, thanks for replying! It means a lot that you care about people who watch your vids. These guides have been really helpful and interesting for me!
I'm glad they help! In Merlin and Waver's case they are game breaking because later on in the game it becomes more important to buff your allies and debuff enemies that it is to just have a lot of attack. Waver can charge everyone's NP by a lot, increase crit damage by a lot, and buff everyone's attack by a lot, plus his NP stuns the enemy and inflicts a ton of debuffs on them and it is spammable. In the right setup you can have Waver basically stunning and debuffing the enemy every other turn while stacking buffs on all your allies and charging their NP so they can spam their NP. For Merlin he has a skill that makes everyone invincible for 1 turn and his NP heals everyone, charges their NP, and increases their max HP, and he can spam this NP. Their are videos of servants with 50,000 HP because they got so many Merlin buffs, he basically makes your team immortal. Jeanne Alter is more straightforward, she has the highest atk in the game, has a charisma like buff that can increase everyone's attack by up to 40%, has a mana burst like skill that also makes her invincible, and has a skill that lets her do tremendous crit damage, in some cases her attacks can deal over 100,000 damage per hit from critting. On top of all that her class (avenger) has no weaknesses to any other servants, except berserkers, and she deals extra damage against rulers. So essentially she is just a powerhouse with no weaknesses
G&A Reviews Damn. That is pretty broken. Is there any way to charge my NP faster or should I just stick with having an arts team and arts chaining ftw?
In a bizarre streak of luck, I pulled Alter and Altria in the same 10 pull, and then Altera from Gil's banner. I max ascended Alter, mostly because I like her 2nd stage art more than I like any of Altria's, but a little bit because she had less annoying ascension mats. Not that I'd use grails for it, but I do think it's funny that Alter gets more attack at level 100 than Altria does.
I was going to. Then I ran out of saber pieces to ascend her. I thought, that's fine, I'll just farm some today. Then I remembered that it was half ap QP daily and I needed to farm that. I was just like, whatever, I'll do it anyway because she's cute. Then I looked at her other ascension materials. Dragon fangs and reverse dragon scales. I was like ugh I don't have any of these and they're kinda annoying to farm. But still, I thought, I'll do it anyway because I want to get her final ascension art quickly as possible. And then I realised I also need those materials for the skills of Kiyohime Lancer. And that I already have about 4 aoe buster sabers, one of which is one of my favourite servants, Siegfried, who's only NP2. And that I can get Siegfried off the free 4 star ticket. At that point, I just thought, what the fuck, I give up. This is punishment for my gacha luck I swear to god.
I'm a NA player but the events in Japan sounded too tempting so i tried it, to my surprise i got lucky with my tutorial roll with Heracles and Emiya, and then there's the bonus 30 quartz where i got Merlin and Lartoria... there's still the pickup servant as well... should i still play NA or turn over to Japan? haha
I was hoping for Marie Antionette review but i guess she was like way to underrated in NA version right now...... . Still waiting for the review of her
really wanna see a review of waver and why he so good like i understand hes a v good support unit but every1 says that hes like the no1 unit in the game and whatnot and u hv to sr for him
I'd at least consider her the hotter version of Artoria :3 Also, please wish me luck in rolling for Altera this event (I just found out she's in the rate-ups). I should have like 300SQ by America afterwards anyway so I can try going for Altera now >.< I need all the luck and Catalysts I can get PS: Saber Alter would be a good consolation either way
I'm still somewhat new to this game, but here are the high star servants I have: (Ruler)Jeanne, (Saber)Chevalier, (Beserker)Kintoki, Lancelot and Tamamo Cat. What can I do with these servants for an optimal party?
The optimal party there would probably be Jeanne, Chevalier, and Kintoki. Jeanne and Chevalier can protect Kintoki from a lot of damage while he destroys everything. But if you have Hans Christian Andersen I would use him in place of Chevalier.
Thanks for the reply, I still don't have Hans somehow, so I can't use him. After a very depressing roughly 300 dollar run for Waver, all I got was Siegfried out a'spookin' from the plethora of Azoth Blades, First Strikes, Jing Kes, and Giles Sabers. However that last 80 dollars thanked me for the money with Heaven's Feel, 4 Black Grails, Formal Craft, Martha, and Saber Alter. I'll see to make due with what I got without Waver to make my party uber-OP.
spent 3 days when the game lunched constantly clearing fuyuki and rolling for her, my head hurted from all that spam sadly, in the same time, i also got another account that rolled both jeane and weaver so, now i'm kind of stuck with 2 accounts. One with Dark Saber, which rolled her again randomly and got np2. And another one with Jeane and Weaver, where I also used 30 summons during this rate up gatcha and didn't get her (or any other 4 star servant lol). Sadly, can't waste more quartz for her since Tamamo is love, Tamamo is life.
Is her bond CE better than those you recommended? I've look around online but everyone has mixed feelings about it... I'm about to cap her bond off and I would really like to know.
I'd say it's just as good as a non-limit broken Heaven's Feel so yea absolutely use it if you have it. Trading the 10% extra NP damage for a chance of lowering def can be good against bosses. Congrats on max bonding her
Saber Alter Artoria is SR servant I got on my first multi roll I got on the story gacha after the guaranteed SR multi roll. With Tamamo, Waver, Jeanne on my account, she is one most used servant that to have her bond CE through Story, Free, and Daily Quest as her NP is very useful until I hit the Camelot Singularity.
For now, Saber because it's gonna be a long time before you max ascend Salter with her requirements. But overall I would still say Saber is slightly better because she has that high HP and utility, but if you grail Alter she actually surpasses Saber in Atk so if you plan on doing that I would suggest Alter
The fact that she can easily compare to her 5 star version, and arguably even be better then her if grailed to 90, speaks volumes about how freaking good Saber Alter is. When it comes to 4 star servants, it doesn't get much better then this. I just wish her ascension materials were not so rare :(
It's your old friend Saber
Except she just came from the funeral for her pet hamster and she's really pissed.
Heaven's Feel is the only real choice because it's good and also lore reasons
big brain.
To quote her words in difference between her and blue ver. Blue puts on more armor upon ascension, while black takes off more.
She looks and fights like F/SN HF ver Saber Alter, but in CD drama and others, she behaves more like F/HA ver, 100% junk food junkie who will not hesitate to blast off her NP if anyone stands between her and her nuggets or burger.
Ayako Kawasumi-san was voicing four different Sabers in a drama I just heard (blue, white, black and Sakura). If she says she did that in single shot, I wouldn't be surprised either.
That's pretty impressive, she is a great seiyuu
She's voicing Blue, White, Black and MHX
Sakura Saber was voiced by Aoi Yuuki ^u^)
My bad. Okita, not Sakura^^;
And they were already complaining they couldn't bring in Kugyu "Nero" just because they used up all budget to bring in Miyuki "Mo-san" Sawashiro.
Liesha Cichol Sakura Saber is Okita Souji tho
But its fine, it is indeed confusing at first
Btw, the drama.cd is up on my channel and its translated with visuals -shamelessadvertising-
Wait wait wait:Blue, white, black and MHX!? Wow Ayako is good.
I just summoned Alter the other day. I'm so happy cuz the only saber I had was Saber Lily and she suuuuuucks. Gonna max out Alter as quickly as possible.
Good luck, she requires a lot of really rare ascension materials
Dragon scales will be the bain of your life
Astrolightning00 bane*
Congrats Sloan and good luck! Hope to see more FGO videos once Okeanos comes out. xD
Same, dude. I've been really hurting for a decent Saber, and just pulled her today.
Literally my only gold Saber (Lilly doesn't count.)
She puts in good work and hits hard. Charisma is still halfway decent imo because any attack buff is good.
Got her right after I finished Fuyuki, has saved my team so many times. Looking forward to Santa Alter and Swimsuit/Rider Alter!
Nice!
G&A Reviews I know she's not out yet but can you give me a quick run down on your thoughts of Ryougi Shiki Assassin? I've been saving all of my materials for this character and I'd like to double check to see if she's worth it. I was going to Grail her and max her status up. Do you think it would be worth it with that insta kill?
YumoKanzaki I can do that for ya. Shiki assassin is one of the three 4* assassins in chapter 1 and possibly the best. Typical assassin setup with high damage output with crits and a decently spammable np that has a chance of insta-death. Her first skill decreases one targets resistance and increases her arts dmg. Her 2nd skill gives her an evade for one turn and ups her crit dmg. And her third skill sacrifices hp for np gauge. QQAAB is her deck and pairing her with debuffers or crit production team will work out.
YumoKanzaki And no, insta-kill isn't often worth it, but if you like her, Grail her, she's decently powerful.
I roll her in the event in kintokis banner
Those updated animations are so bad ass, that sword flip :D
I really hope in the future that she can get some strengthening quests to boost her skills a bit. Maybe when the Heaven's Feel movies are released they can give her some love.
Thanks G&A for the review & tips. Made the early mistake of level her charisma instead of mana burst oh well.
Anyways she is my pride & joy. I have some friend spots open so if u wanna try a grail lvl.90 NP4 13k atk Salter feel free to add me. 363,841,055
Thanks! I would love that but my friends list is full currently lol. And yea I would love to see an upgrade to her instinct skill, like actually making it fit the lore by giving her an evade
G&A Reviews oh no worries. Even the possibility of you on my friend list would be awesome whenever. Also I'll try to make it to one of your streams...though I may be laughing too hard to pay attention with all the hentai and loli discussions.
*Artoria fans : Please stop!*
Looking for a friend with AOE saber. I sent you a request just now. 😄 Edit: I'll just follow because your list is full.
@@Croiri yeah sorry my list is full atm & mostly everyone still active. My Salter is fully built now with max fou, np.5, max skills so feel free to try her out. Since Oniland is happening she'll be in my general support list.
You do a great job with these. Even when I know the general role of a Servant ahead of time, I always like to tune in and hear your insight.
Thanks, glad you enjoy the videos
I want her...but I get always spooked by sumanai-kun...
Kill me.
If you have altera its all good lol
Hoping to ger merlin but got her instead hope its worth
I have altera at level 94. But is salter better ovr?
What a legend liking a comment from a video that's two years old
Me too. I want merlin but got salter and altera instead
Got salter, lalter and a scope but no merlin. It's still a win ( ´ ▽ ` )
I just got Merlin and alter saber
I've had her for a while now. I have yet to be disappointed with her.
I get genuinely excited every time you upload lol. FGO is sooo underrated.
Thanks I appreciate the support! And agreed, I hope it gets bigger.
SmoothJK eh......really?
I mean its quiet big in SEA
PvP is all we need rn
@@lightofheaven4381 pls no
So funny story about Salter here. I am new to FGO but my luck seems good. I even got Heracles on my first pull and he's been very useful. I just finished Nero's Singularity and pretty much fell in love with her. Nero is adorable in a number of ways and I wanted to try for her. I saved up 90 SQ and was feeling lucky so went to pull for her in the Story SQ Summon...I WAS SO CLOSE! I was pulling for just about everyone from that Singularity except Nero! Was getting Romulus, Leonidas, even Caesar! Was losing hope and SQ but then on my last pull, on the final card...BOOM! Saber Alter. I couldn't believe it. Though I still want Nero dearly, can't deny that I am satisfied with this. Looking forward to more of FGO now more than ever.
I'm happy you're back, your servant reviews and game tips are my favorite!
Thanks!
I decided to use my tickets from this month to try and roll mr. Golden, and who pops out but this lady
Lucky!
I got her pretty early on, she is in my opinion the best Saber servant right now. She is certainly the most well designed servant, she looks super cool. Definitely going to grail her and get her to level 90.
congrats
Man I watch all of these thinking it'd be nice to have the servants and then boom, Salter comes in my roll. I'm super hyped to use her, thanks for the guide!
Congrats on Alter!
I got Saber Alter off of a ticket I decided to use on a whim, and then recently I got another copy. As for the analysis, I agree with it, great work as always!
Thanks, and congrats!
Another technique I use for saber alter is pairing her with cu alter and mash since mash can provide defensive buffs and cu alter can limit attack and critical damage to keep saber alter alive when fighting against regular enemies and not bosses. She struggles in boss fights so if that happens pair her with a good caster so that one of them can provide defensive and offensive buffs to protect her and increase her attack. Saber alter to me is like a black hawk helicopter that does modest damage but with more weaponry provided she can become dangerous to most enemies she comes across.
A grailed Saber Alter has a higher attack stat than a grailed Saber Arturia. So if you have Alter at NP5 or something, and don't mind spending 2 extra grails to get her to level 100, feel free to grail her.
Yep, her atk at 100 is better than a few 5* servants
Her attacks, especially her NP, is really crazy strong, and I use a lvl 90 salter as support :X
I actually just rolled her last night so I'm surprised and happy for the spot light. I was very happy with your Orion review as it helped me decide that maybe I should wait for Nobunaga (a character I am passionate about in almost any form) rather then go too hard for a male buster. Thankfully one of my close friends got her as one of his very first servants anyway, haha. Thank you or the reviews, please keep it up, very informative stuff.
Glad my videos helped!
Remember how I mentioned ending up whaling for Kintoki?
Yeah, still no Saber Alter
That's fine though I suppose. I already know who I'm gonna want for my sabers
Used my tickets and 30 quartz, no Alter for me either
You forgot to mention about her Bond CE, wich in my bias opinion since i have her at lvl 100 10 10 10 Np2 on JP server, is one of the best Bond CEs on the game. 30% damage up on her NP and a 30% chance to decrease the enemy defense on each attack.
I agree it is one of the better bond CE, I would say just as good on her as a non-LB Heaven's Feel. Much better if you are fighting a boss though
I love Alter
Me too!
Lalter?
Salter
Xalter?
Lalter is a nickname of her Lancer counterpart but older and hot.
i really hope she gets a strengthening quest. Changing her Instinct B to something like Lalters Blessings from the End of the World A. It'd be much better for Salter to have a skill like that. she hits hard and having a crit modifier would do wonders. personally I'd want Instinct to be completely removed from FGO cause it is pretty useless outside of Mozarts where he drops a crap ton. any instinct like abilities should have a bonus with it. like Lancelot (Saber)
Instinct needs a drastic rework. Lalter and MHX have good variations on the skill but every other Arturia is just weighed down by it
my startegy since i got saber alter is team her up with gil and waver, get her np in the first few rounds, and on the final round buff her attack the fuck up with gil, waver, her skills and the master spell, use her np and one shot whatever the enemy is, Works everytime
Sounds about right, her NP is ridiculously strong
I'm so glad that I got her today!
Seriously, having to stick with Gawain as my only AoE Saber up until now was really a pain (Nothing against my beloved sunbro, but I really want to see an NP upgrade for him).
He doesn't get an NP upgrade, but in 2 years he gets a buff that allows him to create his own sunshine so that he can get his whole set of buffs everywhere, making him infinitely more viable.
Same here. I only have gawain as saber*4 rank on my Chaldea and bunch of bedivere at most the time. Roliing for saber banner but didnt work out well. Still get third rate servant. Finally, get the chance to summon her yesterday with the free sr ticket.
I saw that there was a daily rate up for waver today and decided to give it a go. Like sure why not. Didn't roll Waiver but got her and 2 of the CE u mentioned for her. After watching this I'm extremely happy.
Nice
id say she's more the akuma to ryu
Good point!
Salter need more food than athoria
I pulled two 5 stars trying to get her. I just want salter.
I've had the game for a week and managed in only two 10-rolls (including the mandatory one) to get Herc, Martha, and then two Saber Alters in the same 10-roll. Your review is much appreciated advice and here's hoping my luck stays that good.
Wow congrats!
Back when the English version was coming out, I decided that I would reroll for Alter. I have Arturia on the Japanese version so I thought to roll for Alter to differentiate it a bit. That also meant I had to redo Fuyuki over and over again. It took me 3 days. By then I had accounts with Vlad NP2, Jeannes and Arturias that I gave away to my friends or random people. When I did the last roll I got Arturia and right after that I got Alter and my heart skipped a few beats when it happened. I got both!
Your dedication is impressive!
Well considering I want a team full of alter servants I was super happy to get her since she is my favorite fate servant.
going to get her today cause i dont have buster AOE hahaha
Thanks for the video. I just got her from the gacha and I'M so happy with it :D I wasn't really hyped for Kintoki.
Congrats!
I got her just before i even started the fuyuki map (last year) and now she reached 70 with final stage on it and boi she is worth it (despite her cons that you just mention good sir)
Yea I love my alter, I have a fair amount of sabers in my NA account already but I still want her
Hope for the best on getting her. I don't have in my NA account but RNG gave me kintoki.
Well the issue on her rarity is that unless she is featured, she isn't on the limited banners only on the normal banner. Which expands over time as well.
Ah, good point
and remember, "Sabers who can't shoot beams aren't Sabers!"
But...Okita...
Thank God I got her in NA acc last night, thanks to 1 Million Download pool. She is my 1st gold servant that come to me since tutorial summoning LoL. And I already have her in JPN acc.
Congrats!
I just summoned her. The best way to use her is to keep her in reserve. Once you get to the second or third wave of any mission with kaleidoscope as your craft essence you easily get her noble phantasm. When that happens buff her attack, use your master attack skill on her and then activate her noble phantasm on the final wave and then use any beserker to clear up the rest of the enemies. It works wonders. If you keep her at the start of any mission she is at risk of getting killed on the third wave because you may have used up the noble phantasm clearing the second wave of enemies.
Summoned her and she already replaced my lev 70 Siegfried at lev 60 ! She's a BEAST ! I'm so happy i summoned her since i got no 5* saber so far .... Take me to the dark side Alter !
Strange that your video came up on my recommendations list after I summoned her today as a consolation prize, I think Google is spying on me...
The one thing missing in this review is that if you compare her to her Original, you also need to point out that if you grail her to 100, her Attack goes up to 12,408 compared to Original's 12,283. Most other Servants dont need this, but if you do make a direct comparision, it is important. Even if you only Grail her to 90, her 11,324 is slightly higher than Original's 11,221.
Good point, I will be doing a grail guide that goes into growth curves so I will be sure to bring it up there
I got her after I got Kintoki off my first summon ticket! I like that her stronger NP is also explained for lore reasons too.
congrats!
Really happy I rolled her. She's hard to ascend but it's so worth it. I wish I got a copy to boost her crazy np. Don't have any 5 stars yet but she and Emiya have been doing me pretty solid.
You forget to mention that because she's a 4*, her NP is WAY more easier to upgrade compared to Artoria's.
Yea, that too
Did a few yolos and managed to get not just one but TWO Saber Alters. I also rolled a Kintoki, so I get to save quite a bit of quartz for Drake coming up.
Nice!
I have both Saber and Salter, but my Salter's excalibur morgan is a level 4. I should be using her to fuck up enemies with NP more then ig?
If your original Artoria is only NP1 then Salter will outdamage her so she may be better now, but Arotria will be better in the long run once she gets her next buf
Currently, I have her equipped with Seal Designation Enforcer which lets you get a bit more oomph out of her second skill or have another servant that can get a bunch of crit stars
Not bad, especially if you pair her with Waver and someone like Atalanta to produce more stars
I have Saber Alter, Helena on my second roll and have very lucky Emiya, Sieg and Chev d Eon. I'm a free to player, I have 3 sabers just been 3 days of playing with saber to level up first. Well which one to level first.
Congrats, I'd say level Emiya first lol
@@GAReviews Emiya, Thank you. I've have bought saint quartz just to try it and rolled Nero, Nero Bride and Nitocris then on the story summon are Elisabeth, Marie and Stheno. Looking at the rates for I was expecting 3 star servants or 4 star craft essence, very lucky rolls or just beginners luck. I will watch your servant guides.
Why I watch this? I don't get Holmes but I'm happy with this!!!
Will there be an episode for Carmilla in the near future? Really hyped to see a review on her!
I love your reviews by the way!
Thanks! Carmilla will probably be sometime in October, because after Atalanta and Waver I'm doing spotlights for all the Okeanos servants before the new chapter is released
Damn didnt expect you to still read comments here and you've clearly grown if comparing this spotlight to your recent ones.
Thanks, I definitely want to revisit some of these old spotlights and give them a fresh coat of paint maybe one day when I have time lol
@@GAReviews I'd gladly watch it. All the best man
I'm surprised you didn't mention how she's an excellent choice to use your grails on, since using them gives her higher attack than base Arturia. That combined with how lackluster Arturia really is makes her a better choice IMO. Good thing she's a rate up right now.
I completely overlooked it because it isn't something I usually go into on these videos. But I will be making a grail guide video on the best servants to grail as well as the way growth curves work
How curious... My Saber Alter animations look different from what you showcase here. They're reminiscent of like Kojiro's or Siegfried's. Will they change as I "ascend" her? Great vids, btw! I just started playing last week, and find your guides very, very useful.
Thanks! And her animations get updated through a patch, same with Herc and Cu, hopefully they put the patch in the NA version soon.
Oh, awesome! Thanks for the info. Trying hard to get as many of my friends to play FGO as as I can. Will definitely watch and hit the like button on all your vids.
wew, the Magnificent Saber Alter.. i'm lucky to get Her quite early in the game.. for all lancer battle quest i always bring her along with Altera and d'Eon to finish the wave, or maybe sometimes pairing her with Waver to all around battle, and her NP never dissappoint me
ugh... I really want her... but must sasve quartz for best waifu Tamamo >w
I tried one multi summon for her and failed, the rest I'm saving for Tamamo
G&A Reviews i did a ticket for her and got insanely lucky and pulled her i dont even care about kintoki lol
PaulNBlack wish I got Nero. Got both Vlad and Atilla the Hun.. I'm still salty cause I'd rather have Nero. Does that make me a bad person?
I'd be as well xD Nero is just top waifu material
PaulNBlack I would've rolled for her if I didn't have Nero and OG saber. Need that tamamo for that team compatibility
Manage to get her in KRT banner. Glad that I got her. She's actually one of my Servants wishlist. Got her at max ascension and lvl in just 3 days. I really happy now that I have another Servant with Dragon trait just so I could have Jalter's team.
I would reccomend saber alter to be paired up with mash for defense, Merlin for healing, gilgamesh for charisma and attack bonuses, and throw in some beserkers like cu alter and heracles for attack and clean up of remaining enemy units that are difficult to kill.
I want her on my roster for those awesome animations and that utterly adorable outfit she has in Shinjuku!
luckily i already got alter(actually was the first 4 star i got)so i won't need to roll for her this week.
Congrats, you are super lucky lol
I caved and whaled bc I really wanted either S.alter or Artoria. Spent $80 but managed to pull s.alter, kaleidoscope, and Jeanne as well for my troubles x.x
Only other time I'm planning on whaling again is when Lancelot goes on rate up again bc he's my fav.
At least it was worth it, congrats lol
7M download campaign
Anyone here to review her because got her today? XD
i got her on my first try
Lmao i got two of em in single summon
Here
Got her with a single ticket :
I tried rolling for Merlin and got one of those summons that sparked up...but it was...Saber Alter? Even though she wasn't on the banner?
Sure hope she doesn't disappoint.
I was lucky enough to roll her twice. The NP damage is INSANE with her 50% MB and having her at Lv 90.
During kintoki's gacha, I was trying to get alter, but ended up getting 5 star saber on my first roll. My younger brother was pissed because he wanted her. He got payback because he got Kintoki on his first roll
Lol congrats. At least you both got a 5* on your first roll
love this video series! could you do one on Proto-Saber?
I follow the NA release schedule, so it'll be awhile before I get to him
Got two alters one after the other from single rolls during the kintoki banner. No goddamn joke even I was baffled by that crazy shit.
Clearly she wants you to be her master. The same happened to me in JP when I tried to roll during a Nero gacha, I got 3 Alters instead lol
Hi I play on the US version and I got her a little while ago, I have her with my waver. but I'm trying to find her a good CE, but I don't have any of the ones you mentioned. but I do have the black grail. would pairing her with that be a good choice? also on a side note I have two black grails should I keep them apart or should I fuse them?
If you don' have any of the ones I mentioned then yea Black Grail will be decent on her, but I would pair her with someone like Martha or Hans too so he can heal the damage from Black Grail.
And yes, keep them separate. Generally it is better to always keep the CE separate until you get 5 so you can limit break one of them
Nice wideo. Can you make spotlight about El Melloi (Zhuge Liang) [Waver Velvet]
He is next up after Atalanta, look for a spotlight on him next week
I pulled for Artoria Alter even though I have Artoria already. I got another Artoria first pull and was like, thanks game but where's Artoria Alter? 240 quarts and 20 tickets later I got her. Good lord it was rough! So glad I have her though. Next goal is Brynhildr~
Congrats and good luck!
Got her today after 2 years playing
shes better than 5-star saber
Offensively I'd agree
For people finding this months to years later. This isn't true unless you plan to grail Alter Altria.
Alter Altria has an 8.8% advantage with her NP modifier (450 vs 400%).
With both capped, Alter Altria has a 10% disadvantage in Attack (10248 vs 11221)
Her Charisma skill is 6% lower (12% versus 18%)
So at level cap: Altria is a better damage dealer than Saber Alter by 8-10% NP and 16% normal attacks.
If you grail Alter Altria twice to 90, they roughly break even with Charisma up and Alter Altria wins by 6% with Charisma down.
At 100, grailed. Alter Altria wins in everything by around 5% if charisma is up. By closer to 10% with Charisma down.
If you each to 100 (Alter Altria has 12408 and Altria has 12283 attack), Alter Altria will win by 2% if Charisma is up and 8% without it.
There's never a huge difference between them unless you level NPs, and with Altria having banners to herself and Alter Altria being rare and always sharing it with multiple 4 stars, they're not harder to pull than one another.
And unlike a grailed Haracles who genuinely competes with top tier 5 star berserkers, a grailed Alter is just slightly better than the worst 5 star saber... sometimes, if grailed, or whaled.
Mashu/SUPPORT Merlin/Salter is my golden combo.
I actually got Salter even before finishing Fuyuki (but on the other hand, I just managed to get a second copy of her during the Shinjuku banner).
I got Saber Alter in a YoloTiquet today. Now i don't know to try to get waver or wait. I really want waver.
Congrats, and if you really want him I would suggest rolling. But keep in mind there are a ton of big gachas coming up within the next 4 months (Drake, Tamamo, Okita, Jack, Mordred, Scat)
She's literally my only non-Lily Gold Saber, so you know, glad to have her,
Did 5 ticket rolls in Kintoki banner (since all quartz must be saved for Merlin). Didn't get him, but got Alter. Not even mad.
Worth it
I feel so confused. I got alter right after fuyuki, but yesterday I got the 5* Saber from a single quartz roll. I used to think Salter was the best, but the 5* really is a much better rounder servant. I guess I will just keep leveling up her bonding level, she is 6 1/2 now.
why not both
I am leveling 3 main characters to get their max bond CEs. EMIYA, Salter and Hercules. The other 2 slots I use characters to level their bonds to get their Interlude quests. I guess when I get access to all interludes I will start also using Saber as a main backup.
PS: I got a Black Holy Grail (sp?) yesterday, Salters Noble Phantasm is beastly with it.
Soooooo...
We getting Waver review any time soon?
Also, who would you consider an S class servant?
Waver spotlight will be up next week, probably Wednesday. I'm already working on it.
I would say an S class servant would be a servant capable of just breaking the game or redefining the meta, servants like Merlin, Waver, Jeanne Alter and maybe a couple others.
G&A Reviews What makes them so game breaking?
Also, thanks for replying! It means a lot that you care about people who watch your vids. These guides have been really helpful and interesting for me!
I'm glad they help!
In Merlin and Waver's case they are game breaking because later on in the game it becomes more important to buff your allies and debuff enemies that it is to just have a lot of attack. Waver can charge everyone's NP by a lot, increase crit damage by a lot, and buff everyone's attack by a lot, plus his NP stuns the enemy and inflicts a ton of debuffs on them and it is spammable. In the right setup you can have Waver basically stunning and debuffing the enemy every other turn while stacking buffs on all your allies and charging their NP so they can spam their NP. For Merlin he has a skill that makes everyone invincible for 1 turn and his NP heals everyone, charges their NP, and increases their max HP, and he can spam this NP. Their are videos of servants with 50,000 HP because they got so many Merlin buffs, he basically makes your team immortal.
Jeanne Alter is more straightforward, she has the highest atk in the game, has a charisma like buff that can increase everyone's attack by up to 40%, has a mana burst like skill that also makes her invincible, and has a skill that lets her do tremendous crit damage, in some cases her attacks can deal over 100,000 damage per hit from critting. On top of all that her class (avenger) has no weaknesses to any other servants, except berserkers, and she deals extra damage against rulers. So essentially she is just a powerhouse with no weaknesses
G&A Reviews Damn. That is pretty broken. Is there any way to charge my NP faster or should I just stick with having an arts team and arts chaining ftw?
Mmmm, can't wait for that Saber Alter animation update. It looks so much better.
In a bizarre streak of luck, I pulled Alter and Altria in the same 10 pull, and then Altera from Gil's banner. I max ascended Alter, mostly because I like her 2nd stage art more than I like any of Altria's, but a little bit because she had less annoying ascension mats.
Not that I'd use grails for it, but I do think it's funny that Alter gets more attack at level 100 than Altria does.
Congrats, you are drowning in Sabers lol. And yea it is funny to see how strong Alter is at lv 100
I think Saber Alter should be a 5 star servant not a 4 star
I chose her for the SR ticket, then got her twice again in the Merlin summons xD Now gonna grail the hell out of my NP3 nuke waifuuu
Dont tempt me xDDD
Never clicked faster. Got her recently.
congrats!
Rolled for Merlin, got NP4 saber alter,np 5 lancer alter, and the. Main man himself, only used 500 quartz
Thanks for the heart, just rolled again after hearing how good she was from your video, got her up to np5.
I might try and get her just so I can get closer to an all artoria team
I recently was able to complete my all Nero team in JP, good luck rolling her
I'm sad because I haven't rolled her yet on JP. I've been rolling all the saber only gachas and pulling 5 stars instead
Sounds like me when I try to roll Helena in JP, I get every other caster but her
incarceratedGeneticist
Are you gonna get her today in free pickup? Haha
I was going to. Then I ran out of saber pieces to ascend her. I thought, that's fine, I'll just farm some today. Then I remembered that it was half ap QP daily and I needed to farm that. I was just like, whatever, I'll do it anyway because she's cute. Then I looked at her other ascension materials. Dragon fangs and reverse dragon scales. I was like ugh I don't have any of these and they're kinda annoying to farm. But still, I thought, I'll do it anyway because I want to get her final ascension art quickly as possible.
And then I realised I also need those materials for the skills of Kiyohime Lancer. And that I already have about 4 aoe buster sabers, one of which is one of my favourite servants, Siegfried, who's only NP2. And that I can get Siegfried off the free 4 star ticket. At that point, I just thought, what the fuck, I give up.
This is punishment for my gacha luck I swear to god.
The torture of this game never ends lol
I'm a NA player but the events in Japan sounded too tempting so i tried it, to my surprise i got lucky with my tutorial roll with Heracles and Emiya, and then there's the bonus 30 quartz where i got Merlin and Lartoria... there's still the pickup servant as well... should i still play NA or turn over to Japan? haha
I was hoping for Marie Antionette review but i guess she was like way to underrated in NA version right now......
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Still waiting for the review of her
Don't worry, homie, she's coming
Wait Okeanos has been announced? And I have both Saber and SAlter but I'm putting everything into the OG
Yea, Okeanos will likely be out either mid September or right after the 1 Million download campaign.
really wanna see a review of waver and why he so good like i understand hes a v good support unit but every1 says that hes like the no1 unit in the game and whatnot and u hv to sr for him
His spotlight is next, it'll probably be longer than usual for that reason
I'd at least consider her the hotter version of Artoria :3
Also, please wish me luck in rolling for Altera this event (I just found out she's in the rate-ups). I should have like 300SQ by America afterwards anyway so I can try going for Altera now >.<
I need all the luck and Catalysts I can get
PS: Saber Alter would be a good consolation either way
She is much hotter than regular Artoria, I think it's the clothes lol. And good luck!
Thanks, and there is that :D
Also she's a Cute Gothic Lolita Maid Waitress, Sir
i like vanilla artoria better because of the hair color and eyes.
John Peacekeeper it's Altria
Richard Shiflett
boi
I'm still somewhat new to this game, but here are the high star servants I have: (Ruler)Jeanne, (Saber)Chevalier, (Beserker)Kintoki, Lancelot and Tamamo Cat. What can I do with these servants for an optimal party?
The optimal party there would probably be Jeanne, Chevalier, and Kintoki. Jeanne and Chevalier can protect Kintoki from a lot of damage while he destroys everything. But if you have Hans Christian Andersen I would use him in place of Chevalier.
Thanks for the reply, I still don't have Hans somehow, so I can't use him. After a very depressing roughly 300 dollar run for Waver, all I got was Siegfried out a'spookin' from the plethora of Azoth Blades, First Strikes, Jing Kes, and Giles Sabers. However that last 80 dollars thanked me for the money with Heaven's Feel, 4 Black Grails, Formal Craft, Martha, and Saber Alter. I'll see to make due with what I got without Waver to make my party uber-OP.
Ouch that hurts, Alter and the Grails will come in handy in the long run though
spent 3 days when the game lunched constantly clearing fuyuki and rolling for her, my head hurted from all that spam
sadly, in the same time, i also got another account that rolled both jeane and weaver
so, now i'm kind of stuck with 2 accounts. One with Dark Saber, which rolled her again randomly and got np2.
And another one with Jeane and Weaver, where I also used 30 summons during this rate up gatcha and didn't get her (or any other 4 star servant lol). Sadly, can't waste more quartz for her since Tamamo is love, Tamamo is life.
I tried rolling for Alter in this gacha with tickets but didn't get her, everything else is being saved for Tamamo
I think this was already suggested in a previous video but are you gonna add stuff like NP gain rate, crit star absorption and those other shit.
Yep, already in the works!
Is her bond CE better than those you recommended? I've look around online but everyone has mixed feelings about it... I'm about to cap her bond off and I would really like to know.
I'd say it's just as good as a non-limit broken Heaven's Feel so yea absolutely use it if you have it. Trading the 10% extra NP damage for a chance of lowering def can be good against bosses. Congrats on max bonding her
I really want to save my quartz for Iskander but now I might try for her at least once
good luck
i got arthuria and saber alter but no altera during altera day. i should be happy but altera is just my favorite so pretty sad
I know that feel, happened in my JP account when I got both Saber and Alter while rolling for Nero
ah kindred spirit
Can't wait for Okeanos!!!
Okeanos hype!
Saber Alter Artoria is SR servant I got on my first multi roll I got on the story gacha after the guaranteed SR multi roll.
With Tamamo, Waver, Jeanne on my account, she is one most used servant that to have her bond CE through Story, Free, and Daily Quest as her NP is very useful until I hit the Camelot Singularity.
so...between SAlter or Saber, which should I use more? I already have waver, herc, and emiya all max ascended.
For now, Saber because it's gonna be a long time before you max ascend Salter with her requirements. But overall I would still say Saber is slightly better because she has that high HP and utility, but if you grail Alter she actually surpasses Saber in Atk so if you plan on doing that I would suggest Alter
The fact that she can easily compare to her 5 star version, and arguably even be better then her if grailed to 90, speaks volumes about how freaking good Saber Alter is. When it comes to 4 star servants, it doesn't get much better then this. I just wish her ascension materials were not so rare :(
Yea her ascension requirements are some of the most intensive in the game