Thanks for being here! Gadgets are brand new in Alpha 3.17 and there's no major changes yet. If something isn't correct, let me know in the comments. One tip that didn't make it into the video: If you are having a problem calibrating a gadget, you can always remove it and reattach it to get a different waveform to match!
This was a huge help! As a primarily solo miner working to save for my prospector, I’ve avoided renting one due to the limitations. This opens so many doors for a profitable mining run on my own. Thanks for the tutorial!
Not technically gadget related but I think there's an additional mining technique that not many people know about. When charging rocks if you move around to heat different areas you can increase the charge level faster and without having to increase your output. I've yet to fully figure out the pattern but I think the trick is to follow the fault lines that show up after heating the current area you are on. Purely speculation but I think doing it well might also impact the good/bad split so you end up with higher concentrations in each segment.
Just today found 6k rock, had troubles heating up, flown up close to it to the point of touching and it finally got to optimal zone. Definitely there is something to it
make sure to turn your ship engines ( i key) when landing on a planet to avoid having your ship blown away by winds. when the engines are on, the thrusters are on, if something blows it hard, your ship is basically offering no resistance to the wind. turning the engines off puts the full weight of the ship on the landing gear.
Thank you for this. First run was a trial one based on this guide. Second one... just stored my first Prospector haul with 30.22 scu worth of quant (exploded one of the 100% rocks, but backed out in time). Cooking on gas!
Great video explaining all of the mining gadgets and their calibration process. I'm a brand new Prospector owner and will be going for my first haul tomorrow.
Absolutely loving the new gadgets! Lancet surge/stampede has been the meta for so long, but few people talked about the extreme RNG when breaking 8k rocks. Now with the boremax I can bring the helix back into the mix, toss in brandt modules and you can comfortably break any rock in the game with minimal risk!
@@Drakey_Fenix Sorry about the late response. It depends, if you're in the belt you wont see a rock that a lancet can't handle. But if you're on lyria hunting 8k 40% quant rocks, the helix+boremax+brandt works really well for me. That's what I run on my prospector and one of my turrets on the Mole.
I haven't used the gadgets yet but after seeing this I will be giving them a try, so far I like the changes in 3.17 and it's nice only finding the odd one rock I can't scan
Thanks for the info. Solo mining in a Prospector, for Quant, what is your preferred setup. I assume a Lancet but do you use modules and do you change it in the Halo vs Lyria?
I usually mine in the Halo nowadays. Check out my Asteroid Belt scanning guide I posted within the last few weeks. I use a Lancet, 2 Vaux-C3 and a Torrent III. For Lyria, I'd probably run the same combo but have a friend in a Prospector on call in case I need help with a first break. You can try doing a double surge to break the large rocks solo, but you'll lose a lot of equipment and ore until you get a lot of practice with it.
I recently saw a video where they used a few Waveshifts to get the optimal window to 100% of the charge meter. They mined a 7K rock with the multitool.
Tried the gadgets for first tijme, boremax definitely helped crack a 6K rock on lancet LH1 head which I coudl not do before. I wonder if a combo of Sabir, Boremax and Stalwart can allow lancet LH1 users a chance to crack larger 6/7/8K rocks. But.. the process is fiddly... I really have to want that larger rock...
I couldn't see any footage of adjusting mining gadgets in the vacuum of space. I'm finding it extremely annoying to do so due to the constant bobbing around whilst spacewalking. Anyway to remove this or tips to make it easy to adjust the gadgets for this?
Hi Red, Im forced to ask you this question on this video, as it has nothing to do with the new gadgets. From the start of 3.17 im seeing a lot of unscannable quant rock to be precise. I did what most would do when this happens, QT 100k away from the area. Same thing like I came across like 3 -4 clusters of Quant all unscannable even with the mining arm. I logged out and logged back in after an hr or so same shit. Changing servers also does not seem to work. Is it just me having a bad mining day or 3.17 just amplified this bug? Is there a workaround? I spent so much creds to get the prospector and a cargo ship and was also considering getting the MISC Expanse. But if this is what I have to endure well I think im better off doing bounties and bunker missions. At least that way i wont be wasting time. Any help is appreciated!!
This is a great tutorial, but I'm having a problem. I place the mining gadget on a quantanium rock planetside as you have, but I never get the sliders to appear. The gadget's screen just stays on the "place on a mineable deposit". I'm trying to use a boremax. Another player tried to help me and he could use my placed gadget just fine. Then he placed his and said he could use it, but I had the same problem with his. I never see the sliders. I've tried validating the game files, relogging and I even did a character reset but it's still the same. Has anyone else encountered this and how did you fix it?
@@RedMonsterSC yeah it explained it very well , but the issue is , after placing it , the gadget didnt turn itself on , so i watched your vid again to see if you manually turned it on and i saw nothing showing this . so is it a proper placement issue or is it something else im not doing , i tried several locations around the rock .
So when the qt timer hits, is it worth it to take the chance to find a spot to land, run to gadget and run back? You think in the future it would be drone deployed. ;)
I think that's an anxiety inducing recipe for disaster! Use Gadgets for Quantanium Mining at your own risk, and always for the first break only. Never after collecting anything.
Not sure if it's a bug or what, but I bought my first mining gadget (in 3.17 LIVE), tried to put it in my backpack, but it kept getting the message that the gadget was too large, even though I had plenty of uSCU space for it. It was the boremax one.
I've noticed that with smaller backpacks as well. The backpack reads like it should have 40k uSCU but the 15k gadget won't fit. I'll need to check the issue council to see if this has been reported or not.
@@RedMonsterSC I tried both my 40 uSCU and 50 uSCU backpacks and got the same message both times. I figure it's a bug, thanks for confirming. Now I need to figure out how to do rock mining without a ship. I kind of learned about the mining gadget before learning how to actually mine. lol
That's one of the current issues I've run into as well. My experience is that about half of the gadgets just can't be recovered, and that matches what I've heard from others as well.
There are a few places to search for Quantainium, however Lyria is still the best location. Just hunt for clusters of ore deposits (multiple rocks within about 50m of each other) and they'll be Quantainium.
Tbh i never touched these cause i thought they where limited use and couldnt see it worth it, knowing this imma take some with me to crack those 8k quant rocks i find rarely
I still think there are some practical limitations that make it less useful than a properly equipped ship, but they can definitely add flexibility. Glad the video helped you to see some use from them!
I'll star by saying I was looking forward to gadgets and really wanted them to work but I spent a million credits testing the mining gadgets and came to the conclusion that it does so close to nothing that they are neither worth the time or money to place, they change the values of a rock visually but thats almost all. even with 3 bormax on a rock you only be able to break a rock slightly bigger than you otherwise could. I am talking you cant even break a 6.5k rock and dont even think about bigger (quant mining with lancet lazer), I am not sure what game people are playing but noone I have talked to that actually mines regularly bother with them because they are so useless
I agree, tried Bormax with Lancet, you can break a 6.2k rock max instead of 6.1k without the gadget ? Wow so "usefull" ! CIG made these gagdet for nothing at this current state.
Thanks for being here! Gadgets are brand new in Alpha 3.17 and there's no major changes yet. If something isn't correct, let me know in the comments.
One tip that didn't make it into the video: If you are having a problem calibrating a gadget, you can always remove it and reattach it to get a different waveform to match!
This was a huge help! As a primarily solo miner working to save for my prospector, I’ve avoided renting one due to the limitations. This opens so many doors for a profitable mining run on my own. Thanks for the tutorial!
Glad it helped! Gadgets can be very useful under certain scenarios.
Not technically gadget related but I think there's an additional mining technique that not many people know about.
When charging rocks if you move around to heat different areas you can increase the charge level faster and without having to increase your output.
I've yet to fully figure out the pattern but I think the trick is to follow the fault lines that show up after heating the current area you are on.
Purely speculation but I think doing it well might also impact the good/bad split so you end up with higher concentrations in each segment.
I’ve noticed similar, so I think you are right
I have noticed this too
Just today found 6k rock, had troubles heating up, flown up close to it to the point of touching and it finally got to optimal zone. Definitely there is something to it
make sure to turn your ship engines ( i key) when landing on a planet to avoid having your ship blown away by winds. when the engines are on, the thrusters are on, if something blows it hard, your ship is basically offering no resistance to the wind. turning the engines off puts the full weight of the ship on the landing gear.
Excellent video. I just recently decided to try my hand at mining. This was VERY helpful! Thank you for putting this together
Thank you for this. First run was a trial one based on this guide. Second one... just stored my first Prospector haul with 30.22 scu worth of quant (exploded one of the 100% rocks, but backed out in time). Cooking on gas!
Awesome! It's always a fantastic feeling when you start pulling in those perfect Quantainium runs!
Great video explaining all of the mining gadgets and their calibration process. I'm a brand new Prospector owner and will be going for my first haul tomorrow.
Thanks for the info! Always happy to see your guides.
Thank you so much for this series mate, super informative and really well presented
Excellent video! Thanks for putting this together!
Koodos u are a very wise person and have do special work in all your videos to assist all us peons in the game
A Big thank you Red Monster.
As always your videos are very helpful. Simple, clear with all the infos.
You'r are the true Master miner 👍
These will open up a lot of chances for the solo operation. Thanks for the vid.
Yay another great video! Thanks Red!
Some solid information! Thanks!
Absolutely loving the new gadgets! Lancet surge/stampede has been the meta for so long, but few people talked about the extreme RNG when breaking 8k rocks. Now with the boremax I can bring the helix back into the mix, toss in brandt modules and you can comfortably break any rock in the game with minimal risk!
I know this comments is rather old at this point. But is this still viable? Do you still prefer the helix over the lancet with the gadgets?
@@Drakey_Fenix Sorry about the late response. It depends, if you're in the belt you wont see a rock that a lancet can't handle. But if you're on lyria hunting 8k 40% quant rocks, the helix+boremax+brandt works really well for me. That's what I run on my prospector and one of my turrets on the Mole.
@@Evocati25 Alright, thanks for replying!
thanks for these really awesome and informative tutorials. really help to get started with mining in any size :D
Glad you like them!
Always good people that are mining focused.
As usual, great video!!
I haven't used the gadgets yet but after seeing this I will be giving them a try, so far I like the changes in 3.17 and it's nice only finding the odd one rock I can't scan
Thanks for the info. Solo mining in a Prospector, for Quant, what is your preferred setup. I assume a Lancet but do you use modules and do you change it in the Halo vs Lyria?
I usually mine in the Halo nowadays. Check out my Asteroid Belt scanning guide I posted within the last few weeks. I use a Lancet, 2 Vaux-C3 and a Torrent III.
For Lyria, I'd probably run the same combo but have a friend in a Prospector on call in case I need help with a first break. You can try doing a double surge to break the large rocks solo, but you'll lose a lot of equipment and ore until you get a lot of practice with it.
Another awesome video..just missing a drumroll.... LUL
Dude, you deserve *way* more subs than this. You have a new one in me.
I recently saw a video where they used a few Waveshifts to get the optimal window to 100% of the charge meter. They mined a 7K rock with the multitool.
got a video link? I image this must have been before the release nerf as they do almost nothing now and I cant imaging this being possible
Tried the gadgets for first tijme, boremax definitely helped crack a 6K rock on lancet LH1 head which I coudl not do before. I wonder if a combo of Sabir, Boremax and Stalwart can allow lancet LH1 users a chance to crack larger 6/7/8K rocks. But.. the process is fiddly... I really have to want that larger rock...
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I couldn't see any footage of adjusting mining gadgets in the vacuum of space. I'm finding it extremely annoying to do so due to the constant bobbing around whilst spacewalking. Anyway to remove this or tips to make it easy to adjust the gadgets for this?
great video, i would have loved to see a 7k rock popped using a boremax and lancet. Is there any interaction with mining consumables ?
Yes, they do stack with lasers and modules!
Hi Red, Im forced to ask you this question on this video, as it has nothing to do with the new gadgets. From the start of 3.17 im seeing a lot of unscannable quant rock to be precise. I did what most would do when this happens, QT 100k away from the area. Same thing like I came across like 3 -4 clusters of Quant all unscannable even with the mining arm. I logged out and logged back in after an hr or so same shit. Changing servers also does not seem to work. Is it just me having a bad mining day or 3.17 just amplified this bug? Is there a workaround? I spent so much creds to get the prospector and a cargo ship and was also considering getting the MISC Expanse. But if this is what I have to endure well I think im better off doing bounties and bunker missions. At least that way i wont be wasting time. Any help is appreciated!!
One thing that I'm wondering about these gadgets, are they single-use? Or can I pick it up again, after mined respective rock dry?
They are reusable, although they can be destroyed and sometimes you might have difficulty reusing them
@@RedMonsterSC "burried" under one of the rocks, for one?
I can not seem to put a mining gadget in a light backpack, also when I "grab" the gadget it just vanishes :(
This is a great tutorial, but I'm having a problem. I place the mining gadget on a quantanium rock planetside as you have, but I never get the sliders to appear. The gadget's screen just stays on the "place on a mineable deposit". I'm trying to use a boremax.
Another player tried to help me and he could use my placed gadget just fine. Then he placed his and said he could use it, but I had the same problem with his. I never see the sliders.
I've tried validating the game files, relogging and I even did a character reset but it's still the same.
Has anyone else encountered this and how did you fix it?
once you placed it on the rock how did you activate it to set the perameters , i have attached it but do not know how to turn it on basically lol
You need to calibrate it before activating. The video should explain this pretty well.
@@RedMonsterSC yeah it explained it very well , but the issue is , after placing it , the gadget didnt turn itself on , so i watched your vid again to see if you manually turned it on and i saw nothing showing this .
so is it a proper placement issue or is it something else im not doing , i tried several locations around the rock .
Odd. It's possible the gadget is disabled or could have been glitched. Are other gadgets of the same type able to be calibrated?
@@RedMonsterSC tried 3 of them , same results
So when the qt timer hits, is it worth it to take the chance to find a spot to land, run to gadget and run back? You think in the future it would be drone deployed. ;)
I think that's an anxiety inducing recipe for disaster! Use Gadgets for Quantanium Mining at your own risk, and always for the first break only. Never after collecting anything.
are the gadgets limited use or no?
Not sure if it's a bug or what, but I bought my first mining gadget (in 3.17 LIVE), tried to put it in my backpack, but it kept getting the message that the gadget was too large, even though I had plenty of uSCU space for it. It was the boremax one.
I've noticed that with smaller backpacks as well. The backpack reads like it should have 40k uSCU but the 15k gadget won't fit. I'll need to check the issue council to see if this has been reported or not.
@@RedMonsterSC I tried both my 40 uSCU and 50 uSCU backpacks and got the same message both times. I figure it's a bug, thanks for confirming. Now I need to figure out how to do rock mining without a ship. I kind of learned about the mining gadget before learning how to actually mine. lol
@@slandshark make sure to give the rest of my tutorial series a watch. Should be helpful even with the latest patch
Are the mining gadgets supposed to be single use? Mine usually destroyed after the first break.
That's one of the current issues I've run into as well. My experience is that about half of the gadgets just can't be recovered, and that matches what I've heard from others as well.
They are way too expensive to not recover 100% of the time
ok. I understand. know how to find quanta easly???
There are a few places to search for Quantainium, however Lyria is still the best location. Just hunt for clusters of ore deposits (multiple rocks within about 50m of each other) and they'll be Quantainium.
my gadget is emiting sparkle help
Mining seems broke or totally nerfed to me, thanks for the vid.
Tbh i never touched these cause i thought they where limited use and couldnt see it worth it, knowing this imma take some with me to crack those 8k quant rocks i find rarely
I still think there are some practical limitations that make it less useful than a properly equipped ship, but they can definitely add flexibility. Glad the video helped you to see some use from them!
I'll star by saying I was looking forward to gadgets and really wanted them to work but I spent a million credits testing the mining gadgets and came to the conclusion that it does so close to nothing that they are neither worth the time or money to place, they change the values of a rock visually but thats almost all. even with 3 bormax on a rock you only be able to break a rock slightly bigger than you otherwise could. I am talking you cant even break a 6.5k rock and dont even think about bigger (quant mining with lancet lazer), I am not sure what game people are playing but noone I have talked to that actually mines regularly bother with them because they are so useless
I agree, tried Bormax with Lancet, you can break a 6.2k rock max instead of 6.1k without the gadget ? Wow so "usefull" ! CIG made these gagdet for nothing at this current state.
Mining is terrible right meow. Scans bugged.
mining in the belt is bugged, go planetside. new scanning system works there.