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- Let's have a closer look at Aprilia's latest extreme aero developments and how they became a successful team during the last years.
Why do they use a rear wing?
How does a side diffuser change a bike's characteristics?
How will the driving style change with complex aero motorbikes?
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The 50 grams of downforce that rear wing makes is a game changer.
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It does if you see how small the gap is between the top riders.
The margins are smaller in MotoGP. All 20 riders are within 1 second in most qulaifying
Not the weight of the wing, but the down force it can contribute.
@@Showmetheevidence- he has no idea what he's saying. He's focusing on the weight of the wing.
it is so interesting to look at the differences in aero development between F1 and MotoGP. Great video btw!!!
One thing that's always escaped me is why has it taken so long for MotoGP to start introducing components that generate downforce? F1 and car motorsports in general has had it for decades but MotoGP only recently started using it.
yea, i wondered about the same thing
It makes it difficult to follow so difficult to overtake
@@mysticzz6685 That is incorrect . Manufacturers who are behind in teh with inferior engineering departments who are claiming this . Talk to a aerodynamisist engineer . My cousin was a retired aero engineer for boeing . Said claim is false .
@@jake88ci Ok
@@jake88ci Although the riders (even Aleix Espargaro) said the exact same thing, but ok
Always happy to see the name aprilia. They made my first (and only, so far) bike, a Scarabeo 200. Just a little baby compared to these guys but it got me around, never gave me any issues, and looked pretty damn good too!
Not sure I agree with the purpose of the rear winglet (can't really call it a wing). Seems like it might be there to entrain the turbulent flow off the rider and leading to less drag
it would be really cool to see a maxed-out, over the top, aero-gp bike concept, even if only a model. I know what I can imagine, but would love to see what they can!
Hmm i imagine total rethink of rider position WOULD BE FIRST THING TO CONSIDER. Anyway at current form. There is hard to do much more. I think. At current lean angles downforce is hard to compensate with rider blockage. Aprilia moustache FW wing is quite smart. That Design at cornering with could provide quite downforce trough CofG if designed correctly. But its hard for rider to nail exact lean angle to get maximum effect to not get yeeted to the ground or into sky. I think rider is limitation at handling such aero devices and centripetal forces. So naturally i think they cannot add aero for sake of it indefinitely. Tho i can be wrong. Fun tho. It prototype series why not. Just add budget cap and leave it be.
@@alesksander agreed. Spkn o fun, magin active aero, susp & frame (gimbaled to axles?). Cld look like a box of tiered wings tht morf to maxmiz evrythng, at onc. Motogp DRS 3D!
Trick is contact. More often now with wings riders are coming in contact and loosing critical aero off their bikes and loosing traction as a result
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@@DCRNLVwhat the fuck are you saying just type the words out man 😂
*Oh nice. We had ultra ugly F1 cars now we have ultra ugly MotoGP bikes.*
Well done F1 designers!
The FIM/Dorna need to stop this now, its getting stupid and it will ruin the sport. Just look at F1, they need systems in place to allow following cars to be able to overtake. MotoGP riders are already complaining about issues and if any part gets broken off, makes the bikes very difficult to ride. I hate these devices, they may well make the bikes faster, but does the sport really need it? In my opinion, the bikes look ugly as sin.
NOOOOOOOOOOOO... F1 is as boring as bat shit as there is very little over taking due to the aero and the dirty air that effects the car behind. We do not need this in MotoGP.
F1 is 2022 is awesome tough
Cool video dude, really good description and analysis, look forward to more of these.
More to come!
WOW i got my first bike in 1973, would never have imagined how far sport has come
Maybe in the future the entire front cross sectional area will be a multi plane box fairing mounted to the frame...
Well now essentially is like that.
In the future motoGP will become wingGP.😂
@@marioturkalj3126 Tho i like that. Its totally different paradigm. Let it fly.
Aero fairing make motogp more like F1 back day
It's difficult to overtake
MotoGp is going to be too much like F1 pretty soon, too hard to pass because of dirty air. Need to get rid of winglets, ride height adjustability for starts and straights.
It's always good to watch the progress in technical development. But my question is: With the increase in turbulence, could a problem be created in overtaking, similar to what F1 has been experiencing for decades?
Excellent video, technical and didactic. Congratulations . Greetings from a Brazilian subscriber.
The more bikes rely on downforce in a corner, the more they can lose if they follow another bike.
On the other hand increased turbulence on the straight can help them to follow better.
So with these bikes following becomes harder in corners but could become easier on the straights.
Technicallly yes but bikes are smaller so while that could and will occur i think it wont be at the level of an f1 car cince the area with turbulent air behind is smaller
@@xxx_gambler1954 I understand, but let's remember that motorcycles have two wheels and are much more propense to an accident.
Thanks for your comment and greetings from Brazil.
P.S : Sorry about my English.👍
Over the top aero, Why is engine and electronics development restricted while motogp teams are now allowed spend stupid money on Earo dynamics which have little use in commercial vehicles I a world with ever tightening speed limits.,
I thought the purpose of Racing was to develop tech for public transport.
Tyre develoent, engine efficiency, electronics safety aids, which are crucial to customer models are all restricted now,
stuff like this is why i love motorsports and find it so interesting
To put on the ground all 300hp of a 250kg bike (with the driver and gas) is very tricky, especially when the eletronics cut the power to prevent the wheel from spinning. Instead of a back wing, that goes up and down with the suspension, I would choose a more stable location: the hub of the back wheel. Not a moustache like wing, but a longitudinal one to keep it from touching the ground on curves. Another curious solution, was on the swing arm. Because on curves, when the power is more needed, the angle of the wing would be greater as the suspension is compressed at his maximum with the centrifugal force. At the attention of Albesiano.
Is this rear wing illegal in FIM 2022 Regulation?
there has a restriction with height in 600mm above the reference.
can you do a video on how WSBK aero has trickled down from Motogp? It looks like some teams don’t have front wings yet, while others like BMW are ready with aero
i love this please make more motogp videos!
More to come!
Cool and all but like chris rock said, am gonna say and it has to be said, these bikes are looking ugly as F and more and more distant of reality, ypu put a stupid front lip like that on a production bike and it wouldnt sell, maybe a limited edition one but not in masses, this is why when i did follow motorcycle racing i followed superbike, bikes you could actually buy not prototypes and now ugly prototypes.
Wow, the bikes look like crap.
Although I enjoyed the video and the explanations, I hate these aero innovations.
This is what happens when you higher F1 cars experts to bike section 😁😁
Well done video.
Thanks!
too much technology on motorbikes, they're becoming like cars
At lean angles greater than 45 deg., the component of side-force is greater than that of downforce. That can’t be good …
So informative,easy to digest with metaphors.the production quality hasn’t gone unnoticed.keep doing this my friend.
Thanks, will do!
Very interesting indeed. I'm a Aprilia fan and hope all this aero work will help them get both rider title and constructor's
What I've just seen is genius! (for motorcycle racing standards at least)
Take that away it’s hard to overtake nowadays with those things ! I wanna see excitement like before not the same rider at the top
Read & watched an expert mentioned why the German , Italian & Japanese are so good in building Superbikes are due to the Allied Forces discouraged the Axis of Evil Wartime Engineers to build War Machines after WWII , so many of these Fine Aero Engineers were reassigned to build cars & motorbikes for commercial uses! 🕯🌷🌿🌍💖🕊🇩🇪🇮🇹🇯🇵
Very interesting video. A sector still new to big aero developments but rules should be laid down before the technical anarchy drives the game and reduce the races to a question between a couple of teams
I’m not really loving this aero tbh. It’s becoming the full on F1 thing where rider/driver impact is being reduced & “aero” and other crap is becoming NB.
I get it - MotoGP is a prototype series - but without _some_ limitations MotoGP risks becoming mega boring (& is already a little bit like this).
Quality analysis as always
Amateurs, not even a swan neck ;)
I'm not really convinced with the rear wing downforce without the data. Maybe it does help with the traction coming out of corner but idk. We should also look at how Aleix and Maverick riding style compares. Why is Aleix so much faster than Maverick?
Aerodynamik is a gread gain...
seriously, that tiny wing surely wouldn’t do much.
Every little helps.
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If you manage to put all 300hp on the ground through aerodynamics, you will have to deal with the inevitable (and violent) wheelies. You can opt for front ailerons, for eletronics (by actioning the back brake), or leave it to the pilots. Anyway it is a tricky compromise, and a big chalenge for the engineers.
What is a vee-hickle? 😁
Excellent videos thank you!
You are welcome! New MotoGP video coming soon!
Technology ruining racing in a way less skill needed to ride like in the past when there were no electronic aids soon it will just be the bikes driving themselves
The most dumbest take in motorsport
So with the rear wing the rider basically is his own DRS now!
You could say that... On bikes the rider always has a huge influence on drag.
No need for the video. The thumbnail’s blue squiggles explain everything.
Can't wait for Motogp to have its own version of DRS😂😂😂😂.......
Absoluotely loved this video , what are your thoughts on if it improves or decrease the racing specticale? We almost seem to be at a point of a single fastest line around the racetrack , so any attack requires the rider in front to make a mistake to overtake?
The Aprilia is getting a F1 car body.
So a 2 wheeled F1 car = boring.
Get the wings off the bikes, make it real again, make it about the rider and the set up..
It IS about rider and setup
Cant wait to these plates being controlled by motors to rise and tilt. Will be class
To the attention of Albesiano: why not air brakes, to add stopping power ?
Question, what produces more leaning force, the rider, or the aero?
Best to Aprilia….I am a bit biased though. 🤣😂😆
aprilia hackflugel this engineer had a real brain and was really smart
Holy shit, ground effect on a bike?
Can u do a min video where u just say vehicle………please
This bike is the best looking bike in Moto gp..😍😍👍
@millenium 7 You might find this of interest!
That rear wing looks funny TBH
What can see is F1 Engineer is making Motor bikes
How much down pressure from that sh1t?
Unlike car, MotoGP bike lean
These aero would work only if they are moveable like plane tail.
We have seen DUCATI 2015-2017 Aero are failing due to classic concept, and Dovizioso opted to use no winglets at all for the most part of the season.
Good...but it is the ugliest bike on the grid !!!
Still less aero than the Superleggera V4
Well he didn't learn much at Ferrari ,
Aprilia doesn't complain about the rules and cries to change them, when they don't win.
next year would be an active-aero
Lil spoiler 99999+gr of downforce
the size looks pretty average
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I'm a bit puzzled around this. At high lean angles, and I guess at high throttle exit, or at entry braking areas, loading tyres 'more' seems like it will at some point create a circumstance where the rubber patch gets overloaded. Or increased load over race distance has a higher wear rate on the tyre. It will be interesting how this plays out.
You will find an aerodynamic shape in their helmet very soon...
Fucking ridiculous
Soon the riders will also get aerodynamic parts attached to them.
a new perspective , aero on a spindle .airplane ON wheels . i can see it now thanx
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have you noticed anything special on the BMW LMDH that just got launched a few days ago?
Working on the video right now
Come on.. realistically, just HOW MUCH downforce can this tiny weeny flat wing create..a kilogram maybe? 😅 It's a small simple detail that doesn't hurt having but it won't make significant difference in lap time.
remember that superbikes weigh less than 200 kg. Most bikes even produce lift, so producing say 5kg downforce can make a difference. It’s not like F1 or GT cars where they already have the ability to produce a lot of downforce.
Well maybe but why not try
Why did they just now really begin with aerodynamics in MotoGP/Bike racing? Seems really odd
I think it's mostly due to the engines are now using spec electronics from Marelli and all of them are 4-cyl 1000cc in displacement.
Interesting and clear explainations.
The side "floor" probably does not act as an actual floor. It would just cause a momentum on the bike, not actual downforce.
True.Bbut said momentum is counteract by centripetal force witch is transferred trough of forks into more force and sideforce.
Wow, woher wissen Sie das alles, wenn es stimmt dann Hut ab!
More MotoGP please!
Great video!
it so cute...
Porpoising is gonna be scary on a racebike.
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Dorna + FIM need to stop this madness. As an F1 technician once said: If you want to kill MotoGP, introduce aero development.
I have to agree. Also this will disconnect the look of the bikes from road legal bikes which will not help the manufacturers.
Could you explain why you and the F1 technician think aero development will kill MotoGP?
Bear in mind I have no idea about anything to do with MotoGP.
@@charliemolda297 well it's a bit like F1 in that regard the bikes are becoming more relent on aero grip instead of mechanical and thus if bike is not getting clean air it won't be able to follow very well. And not being able to follow means that you don't get close racing.
@@charliemolda297 Because it will lead to exploding costs and faster = more dangerous racing with less wheel to wheel action. MotoGP bikes are already too fast for some tracks and overtaking under braking is already a huge problem compared to a few years ago.
It is hard to believe that the relatively small wings and bits can have much effect on lap times and I have to believe that riders will be concerned about safety when one of these aero bits seriously injures someone.
It’s not fun anymore . . . 🧐
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Gorgeous bike
For real, are you blind? Ugliest motorbike in history.
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Motogp bikes are becoming more and more ugly due to new innovations
I'm not convinced that aero made F1 better. It certainly wasn't good for close racing. Will MotoGP become better with less close racing?
So u want F1 to be a NASCAR where aero is not there?
@@ron-dr6up All I'm saying is that adding wings makes the racing worse.
wtf
@@4Leka you can't stop innovation. I'm surprised that MotoGp didn't put a wing before tbh
@@ControCultura- Of course you can. These series are tightly regulated as it is.