Romain Axisa is playing guitar...he is French and Ren´s former room mate + member of "The big Push" and has also some very nice solo tracks on YT defintively also worth to check out.
@@Abigirl_Reacts Check out The Big Push with their version of BONGO BONG Live - Romain plays a mandolin and Goran plays a really great bass line. It's an absolute belter of a live performance. I know you will enjoy it Abi x th-cam.com/video/EQAUupOFarw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=q2AVkMJBxGs2Xy7S
Ren had the balls to just do Money Game 2 recently on his first tv appearance at the Sky Arts Awards 2024 in front of an audience of the types of people that he’s singing about. It’s worth checking out. 💜 He said he was feeling awful that day but he did very well.
Yeah, love ya, but rich people are not what ren sees as bad. GREED. That’s his issue. He hates the fact that people will sacrifice the betterment of the world for cash. That’s basically the gist.
Depends how you define Rich, Wealthy, Greedy I think Ren means those that have more than they need, multiple mansions/yachts more than you could spend in a life time. Those that have sufficient but still want more, for what purpose? Also those that obtain it at the expense of others.
The Money Game Trilogy is a Modern Day Fable on the Evils of Greed. Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! These Songs are meant to Inform and Educate the Compassionate and a Stark Reminder to the Greedy "WE SEE YOU!"
“Not all” is very common as a defence but there are reasons for generalisations. Never apply generalisations to individuals; but generalisations are useful to groups. Also - most people think “rich” is what they might be. That is not the same as the 1%. IMO there is a ceiling to wealth beyond which you are immoral. No one is an ethical billionaire. It’s not possible to be one without having essentially stolen that from others. It’s not ethical to be one in a world with such imbalance. Etc.
I don't know anything about being a billionaire but I just can't believe that ALL of them got there by stealing! That's all I'm trying to say, I can't generalize a whole group of people regardless of what it is. Just the way I am I guess! But thank you for your valuable opinion ^_^
There's a certain irony in "a particular country" historically billed as "The land of opportunity" where "Making something of oneself" has always been admired, yet an arbitrary number, or designation now somehow makes one automatically "immoral"? I suppose I could point out that a "billionaire" in 2024 is probably equivalent to a "Millionaire" in... 1960? . There's a certain level of "success" (Monetary wealth) beyond which the gain is self perpetuating. Let's say 5 times "Living requirement"? Once the excess is reinvested (For personal gain) it's only a matter of time before it compounds to the "Billion" level. What's more important is the intention of the individual. Are they motivated by personal gain or mission? Are they generating benefit for others? (I'll let you guess the example) IF their gain is not realised in "cash", but instead left "Available but not taken" in the vessels (Companies?) which generated the income, AND those companies have a common goal to benefit others, would that not be "Ethical"? . As the saying goes, "You can't make omelettes without breaking eggs" You can't CHANGE a system without being IN the system. You can't FIGHT money without HAVING money. (something which was almost VERY evident in the earlier days of the particular example I'm thinking of ) In certain cases only time will tell if an individual is/ was on "the right side of history"
@@Abigirl_Reactsthe thing is in that case what ren says still applies, because even i f we assume someone made it to being a billionaire doing absolutely nothing morally shady (which is already a big if and is likely only realistic from someone with generational wealth to start far ahead with) then they still dont care for the poor because they have far more money than they could ever reasonably need whilst people are struggling and dying so just by possessing so much superfluous wealth they are acting immorally and selfishly thats the problem. Good people will never become billionaires because they will either stop seeking or start ofloading money before reaching that ludicrous figure.
@@Abigirl_Reacts I'd be shocked if anyone can find a billionaire that didn't get their wealth from immoral behaviour. Millionaire possibly but not a billionaire.
Ren is trying to get the guitar player(Romain) to 'open his eyes' to the 'Money Game'. In the final scene he follows a practice pursued by Buddhist Monks in history. The self-immolation was used to 'open the peoples eyes' that they 'live in a burning house'.
The major think you will have missed is that in the 3rd one where he ends the song with "presses on the trigger of the money game" it ends. If he would have continued it would have been "rain rain"... Etc. jimmy was in the rain, had poison in his veins. It's poetic.
"Manipulate the data, and the lie will sell itself" > "Those who rise, through distorted lies" a couple more for other songs, "such a shame" and Jimmy are the tales (Jimmy is a nickname for James). and "cannibal minds" is Animal Flow.
The father of the sons that started Shell Oil actually sold shells and made a fortune. Conch shells mostly and people hadn't seen before in the early 1900s. Eventually making jewellery, necklaces and such. 1932 the sons started Shell Oil.
@Abigirl_Reacts Plus, the early diamond companies did exactly what he said. They stored millions of diamonds so people would think they are rare, plus they'd have the market cornered. They're not rare at all. When I learned about that, I stopped wearing "precious" gems. I felt like buying them was akin to setting your money on fire. And the line "stock pile 'em high until they're rarer than a diamond" was Ren's cheeky reference to that.
in Money Game 3 there are some musical references to MG1 and 2 . The melody that Ren sings at the beginning ( when he stands in front of the mirror) and the same melody played by the string quartet. And the " rain rain rain" which actually becomes rain at the end of the song.
Ren gave us a little history lesson in part one and then followed it up with an economics class. It takes a very clever and flexible mind to break down a complex topic in a way that everyone can understand it. To then do it using a well known nursery rhyme? And in the form of rap? Ren is a genius. Anyway while part 3 does stand on its own, rewatch it now with these two in mind. He might not sing the chorus, but think about what happens in the story and the video…
Yep i totally understand the soft spoken Ren 😊 I'm old enough to be his mom and usually I'm not a cougar but...😊 Are you ready for "sad boy" Ren music (his name for it) ? After you finish Money Game series do you want to go to the darker rabbit hole? Here's some songs to cry over: Chalk Outlines How to be me Su1c1de For Joe Pocket Full of Pain And the one I ALWAYS cry over is Crutch.😢 Or we can go bragadocious with Animal Flow Hunger Illest of our time
Ren is openly anti capitalism and the 1% get under his skin. He loves the generous and hates the gready. Would like you to go back to 2016 Ren Gill Patients the 4 minutes plus version has a wee interview before he sings It's when they thought he had ME. A beautiful touching acoustic live ❤. ✌️♥️🏴.
He's actually not anti capitalist. He stated that in I think it was a Twitch stream? That or an interview. He's not against capitalism, he's against removing the humanity from it.
Ren is not anti capitalist. I didn’t ready your comment further because it started with inaccuracy. It’s important to be 100% positive when making statements about someone else’s beliefs, thoughts, ideologies. Have a great day!!❤
Check the interview Ren had with Chris Liepe, he explains not singing the refrain from from Money Game 1 & 2 ( rain rain rain ) in 3, but it is still there.
The only similarities that I can find in the music between the money game part 3 and part 1 and 2 is when you hear the violins at the end they do play the melody that Ren hums during money game one and two.
@Abigirl_Reacts . An interpretation. 1) The System 2) The Method 3) The Analogy. . MG1 Ren: The Establishment Protected from "The Rain" (Soon to become "The Storm") By the Poncho. Romain Axisa...Guitarist: (You'll get to know him later) Representing "The Population". "Playing along", obeying orders. . A brief musical synopsis Including the reference to "Turns a Saint into a Sinner, A Child into a Killer".... Meet Jimmy (The order is important?) . Political interlude: Composed "Peak Trump" (2018?) Hence the "Southern Border issue/ Immigrant/ Hate" reference. Also the reference "there's no Left, There's no Right, in the middle 'We' sleep". The party doesn't matter, it's one self serving "club". . Then, "The Population" Gains insight (Eyes) and sees the system for what it is. At that point there's a choice (Except there isn't) "Burn" the "Population" Or Burn "The Establishment" (If there's any doubt, this is confirmed by the cross-reference to the "Number 10 Downing Street Burns in a fire" from Part 2) . The poncho (Protection) comes off, and the system does "burn" Side note... Look at the current Geopolitical situation, We have "a State" (In the Middle East) Seemingly trying to "Burn" a population(?) We have several global players where it seems at least some of the population can see the cracks forming in the Establishment? ... Parallel drawn by Jimmy, who "Comes home out of the *rain* soaking wet (no protection) upon a wheelchair...... He has everything he wants...." (You can *print* money, but if it's worth nothing...) Ending with the "child (from MG1) with his finger on the trigger"..... (Jimmy) PULLING the trigger (HIS "Storm") ALL connected.... (And I probably missed a few)
Not many catch the "She sells sea shells by the sea shore" when Ren referenced it in Hi Ren. "Hi Ren, we've heard it before, she sells sea shells on the sea floor"
Money Game 1 - This is a one-shot. Sam the videographer said “again like with money game we ended up doing like 186 takes to get that right oh my God” in an interview along with Ren and Black Pegasus (th-cam.com/video/eWf7bT_jf6U/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=5483) 1 hour 31 minutes in
Part 1 - they were all set up to go and shoot it (under the Brighton Palace Pier) and then when they turned up there were works going on, so the whole crew had to leave and come back later. Then it took 180+ takes to get it. Part 2 - don't know much about the process, just love the *economics in a nursery rhyme* that describes current politics (in the UK and US) to a tee. As far as I can tell, Kujo and his girl have been quiet since the Beatdown. But then I'm not a true Renegade and don't follow his posts on social media. Keep up with the reactions, love watching them! We're all here waiting for the next masterpiece after Money Ties - and it'll be worth the wait.
9:16 - haha, I was kinda waiting for that. 9:18 - lol, tryna play it cool, I see. ;) 9:47 - why? For the art. 10:47 - I mean, maybe. But... you sure about that? Well, and what definition of "Rich" are we going by, here? Also, have you encountered Anand Giridharadas? Maybe check out his Oxford Union talk, or his "Winners Take All" book and/or talk (e.g. at, ironically, Google)... because while at some level I'm sure you're right, it is, to me, immoral _simply to allow yourself to be_ particularly wealthy (not just have-a-nice-house level, mind you, but like... really wealthy) for anything but a brief not-in-your-control period of time (unexpected inheritance or lottery win or something), AND, a whole lot of those who are and remain wealthy do a whole lot of reputation washing doing "nice things" to make us _think_ they're not awful people, when in fact, they're creating problems and even death all around them, often enough. Anand does a nice job of laying this out, in my opinion.... And... 11:20... I dunno, while we may have different definitions of "rich" in mind, in which case I agree with you, then I think they _have_ to not care for you, in order to become and remain "rich" (by the definition I'm thinking of -- nebulous as it may be). Like, it's just baked in to how these things work. 12:37 - often, yes. We could be doing things _so_ very differently... And "bleeding resources all dry" means death, so... even if it's "needed", it's not a great choice, it seems to me. 13:56 - I've always heard it as «old», or maybe «ol'», but yeah, old. Could be wrong, but that's how I've always heard it. 15:02 - because they're making breathable air rare. (It's dystopian af, but... it's happening. See Boost Oxygen or "oxygen bars", etc. Oh yeah, and smog. Does anybody remember the notion of smog? I know that's kind of a thing from LA in the 1980's, but... dirty air is still a thing in lots of places, and that's likely to get worse.) This is all described by a phenomenon called "enclosure of the commons", and another called "primitive accumulation" (though "primitive" is a horrible name for it, that's the common term in use, sadly)... worth looking into the concepts, in my opinion. Just, know thar be dragons there... you'll learn some dark realities. But hey, it's reality, so, it's good to know, mostly? Just... have some support or self care lined up when you do it, I guess. 19:24 - Yeah, this _seems_ to support my working hypothesis that you're talking about "rich" on a different level. Like, to have a nice house, nice things, and the ability to have nice meals, etc. That's one definition of rich. Another doesn't even need material wealth, it's about the richness of internal experience, stuff like that. If either of those are what you mean, then yeah, rich people aren't all evil. But billionaires? Or even those with tens of millions of dollars of personal wealth or more? In my opinion, the very fact that they allow themselves to be in that class of wealth while others starve is, inherently, an immoral act. So, while they may be perfectly nice people to their friends, or even to strangers, they're also still doing harm, just by allowing themselves to be (and remain) in that class of wealth. There _might_ be exceptions to this, and I'd be willing to hear your (or anyone's ) arguments, but........ yeah. 21:01 - I'd be curious to hear your take on Animal Flow. I also bet you'd get a kick out of The Hunger. Just two suggestions, though... do whatever Ren you like, and I'll likely come find it. :)
@@Abigirl_Reacts gladly! I was a little worried about how parts of it would land, so I'm glad you found it insightful. When should you tackle Animal Flow? Well, when things flow that way? ;)
That pose with the fingerguns is a shoutout to Childish Gambino (Donald Glover), paying homage to his video "This is America". Which, If you haven't seen it, it's also filled to the brim with social commentary and subtext. Highly recommend.
Great reactions. And to answer your question about Rens Sky Arts awards live performance, I did answer further down but in case you don't see it, yes it is new! It was only about two weeks ago!
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yeah, I don't know anymore than everyone else. But I do think he's been pushing himself really hard since he came back from Canada. Hopefully it's just a case of taking it a bit easier for a while. ❤
shell oil started this way they use to import shells from China Shell was formed in April 1907 through the merger of Royal Dutch Petroleum Company of the Netherlands and The "Shell" Transport and Trading Company of the United Kingdom. Did you know that Shell began life as an antiques dealer? The surprising history of the fossil fuel giant
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yep. We all do it. But you look equal parts confused, disappointed and personally insulted... it's kinda hilarious. It might be why I've been binge-watching your reactions. Wait, does six count as a binge? Off to watch the Hype Hypa reaction; it'll take a lot to beat the reaction by Arab Man (Over)Reacts, though 😀
Money game 1 took 186 takes over 3 days in a friends basement, and it's something inane like fruit juice and olive oil that he pours over himself. They did try to do a live version of part 2 but Ren was not doing well and the take they decided to go with was missing half of its audio because of a technical error. So they released the lyric video instead. Not sure what's happening with Kujo because Ren's disease has relapsed and he has to go back to Canada to receive treatment, which he said is going to knock him out for a while. Hopefully he'll have a team that behaves in his best interests this time around.
@@Abigirl_Reacts not sequel. a week before MG3 Ren organize a 7 days treasure hunt. the last day,the hunt ends on a treasure chest that contains an apple. one of the guys bite the apple and Ren - Eden starts.. when it end, the 3 minutes countdown for MG3 premiere, started to run.. the views and the reactions for Eden, are criminaly low. th-cam.com/video/NdSLsRKnafI/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUIcmVuIGVkZW4%3D we try to push it, bcz in there Ren explains his morals in life and expose his religion . . ( on Money Game 2, the 'shells' represent the oil company. did you knew Shell oils started as a company that sell actually shells? )
@@Abigirl_Reacts lol definitely don't feel bad. I'm a straight guy and even I can say yep, that is one attractive man, and talented AF... that makes one very very pretty package, no doubt lol
Great reactions. Love your smile and laugh. This also echos "Hi Ren" when dark Ren mocks him by saying we've heard it all before she sells seashells on the seashore. Ren's lyric videos are also. Other Great ones are "Humble," "Life if funny," "Loco," "wicked ways," the "Love music" videos, "Masochist,"" "seven sins" and "uninvited". I suspect you will be doing the acoustic version of "murderer" but I really really hope you do the acoustic version of "genesis" at some point
believe it or not, I had all of those on my list! Except for lost all my faith listed in a reply to you. And yes! Murder acoustic due to publish...10-5 if Im not sick still!
Btw, on the subject of lyric videos, maybe the rarest of all Ren reactions would be to his video "meaning". Hopefully, you can add it to your list after your return from sick leave. It is extremely short so maybe you can pair it with another extremely short one "right here, right now" as that phrase echos his key thought in "meaning". Hope I am making you curious. Take care
"Ok, my heart, my heart, ok, lets just go..." In Money Game 3, Ren incorporates the chorus from 1 & 2 through visuals. Rain, rain, rain (Jimmy gets rained on in the last scene), point the mirror at ourselves (Ren begins by singing while looking into the mirror). Trump was POTUS when 1 & 2 were released. 💛🤘🤙✌️
i think that it should be noted right here that an effort was made by Abi to remain professional when Ren took off his poncho! if i'm to be entirely honest, i think it was a somewhat half hearted effort, nonetheless an effort it was. so well done i guess! awesome reaction as always, i enjoy your singing along a lot and thanks so much for sharing and supporting Ren. much love to you and yours🙂🙂🙂❤❤❤
I tried my best OKAY?! lmao ahhhh I just can't help myself. Reacting to Ren is the most fun I've had with these YTV videos. I need more, I mean, we need more Ren!
Great reaction as usual, and i agree with most of your opinions, especially about politicians. Lol. In my opinion though, i think Ren knows the difference between the greedy rich and the wealthy. My opinion is based off of what he says in his song troubles about "the angel". And also his chapters of course.
1 and 2 are perfectly lyrical. You'll want to do 3 just to see why awards were won perhaps ❤❤❤ guessing you never saw the monk who burned himself. Thats ok. Read rather than try to watch it. And Chaplin... the dictator. That, is ever worth watching ❤
John carpenter was a winner of the uk who wants to be a millionaire and was found out later for cheating. He had a friend in the audience who would cough or make a certain noise when the correct answer was read out. As for the part about rich people I don’t think Ren means literally all rich people but in general rich people do not care about poor people unless they are making more money out of it. Great reaction 💙
Yea I rewatched a few times and got that he's moreso talking about billionaire corporations and such not just wealthy people. I don't believe in general that rich people only care about others only if it's their best interest to do so but I respect your opinion nonetheless. For me, it depends. I've noticed that the people who worked hard to earn the money they earned are way more generous. People who are given the money (say winning the lottery for example) are more greedy. Thank you for your input!
@@Abigirl_Reacts I think we agree more on this than you might think, I just didn’t word it very well and just used a broad brush which is something I need to work on. I meant in general from my personal experience and I would agree that those who work hard for their money are usually much more generous than someone who has it handed to them.
Excuse my novel 😂 Butmy understanding of the Ren hating greed / rich folks thing ~ The central message from all three songs is that we all play a part in the money game, the massive systems of capitalism and wealth inequality may not change, neither will pointing blame, but if us as individuals could point the mirror at ourselves, we would realize we are also playing the game and responsible for the suffering it causes. I think Ren believes as do I that the suffering that is caused by inequality could be reduced if us as individuals became more aware of the systems in place and hopefully this became kinder to others, more generous and more judgemental of the flaws in our systems. Though I think when Ren talks about the rich, I think he mostly means the ultra mega rich - these people in the money game bear more responsibility for the suffering of others than a regular person, a poor person or even a very wealthy person. The richer you become, the more of an ethical dilemma it starts to become, not only because you are essentially hoarding money that you don't need, but also because by that point the means by which you make that money tend to become more and more ethically questionable. Jimmy is an example of this, parts of his story echo what happens all the time when people become mega wealthy. Part 1: look at the system Part 2: look how deep the system goes Part 3: those who we demonize most are also victims of the system
Superb reaction, and I love your singing voice! Now I beg of you: do the story of Eden, it's arguably Money Game part 4. It's extraordinary, captivating, confronting, sad, beautiful... and VERY few reactors react to it. I'd so love to see you react to it, get your take on it!!!! Hell, if money helps make it happen I even solemnly promise to join your Patreon if you do!
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yeah, technically Eden came out before MG3, and it was the culmination (conclusion?) of the money game 'social experiment' leading up to the release of MG3, but to me Eden takes the whole thing to another level, beyond the individual or personal but utterly personal while kinda philosophical, mythological, historical and totally practical... OK, so I'm struggling to put worthy prose to it, you'll do a much better job of that than I can! And I'm serious about the Patreon, I can only afford to 'patreonise' one person at a time, and I'm one binge away from watching the last few of my current 'patreonee's' Firefly/Serenity reactions, and come what may, you're next.
A good idea to do them in order although it is not essential - look out for the way the "Rain, rain, rain, rain" hook is portrayed in Money Game 3. Guitarist is Romain Axisa. They were flatmates for about 5 years or so and he is lead guitarist in The Big Push with Ren (you'll encounter them soon enough and have your mind blown once again trust me). He is super talented and has a lot of solo stuff too on his YT channel which I cannot recommend highly enough. She sells sea shells on the sea shore - that line also appears in HI Ren when he is talking about being unoriginal - a call back to this song. Just seen you are ill right now so dose up and rest up and hope you are back feeling on top form soon.
Thank you for all the info, it's awesome how he tied that all in. I'm responding to comments literally while lying in bed. I might as well have an ice pack on my head and thermometer in my mouth hehe trying to get better as fast as I can!
ooh ooh, also, sorry for repeat posts, but i wanna call it, the next video is totally gonna be "murderer" acoustic version. can't come soon enough for me, i love it! thanks again.
I love your reactions and this one was great! I don’t know if you keep up with rens community tab on TH-cam but he has made very concerning posts as of late. His health isn’t doing well and his illness appears to be relapsing. You should check it out. We must continue to support Ren through these tough times by keeping his music alive and his community thriving. Please keep reacting to Ren and we will keep showing up and all together we can raise the tide and lift Rens ship up. The rising tide lifts all ships. Ren’s too!
@@Abigirl_Reacts agreed! The part that gets me is we all know what Ren has been through, and as he is looking at going back into the trenches with his illness and he’s worried about new releases for his fans! The man is a legend and deserves all the support we can muster for him. I’d hate for him to think for even a moment that there aren’t millions of fans and friends standing with him.
Good heavens, I'm late to this one and there were SO many comments. So I have to add that Ren has said multiple times he is NOT opposed to capitalism per se, but the profit motive needs to be set aside in certain ventures, such as medicine, where human welfare is the priority. He also argues for prioritizing the health of the environment over profit.
oh my goodness, then I agree wholeheartedly! I thought he just HATES capitalism! I'd love to hear him talk more about the subject. Any suggested videos? I love him regardless but it's still interesting!
@@Abigirl_Reacts This one is very good and the discussion is over the first 20 minutes or so, as I recall. He keeps sounding like he isn't going to say any more, then he does. Emotional! It was at the end of 2 weeks of games he had the fans playing online, which was intense. th-cam.com/video/IlOfjoxUkMA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z8ePS4F5Gjzwlaev
great reaction as usual, love your mix of goofy excited reactions and paniced nervous ones at rens antics. I would deffo suggest relistening to money game one with a lyric sheet up as some of rens really clever bits of lyricism fall in amongst the fast parts that can be hard to parse. also I think its safe to say with examples like jimmy in part 3, thatwhile ren may dislike greed and the super rich as a monolith on an individual level he is capable of empathising and understanding that the system we have built causes these dark actions and people to arise and they dont exist in a vacuum. doesnt necessarily make up for the harm they may have caused but it does explain it and shows that thinks maybe could be different.
I think Money game part 2 something never ever mentions: Ren can include his audience, like in jenny and screech you are screech, jenny, violat, the police officer... all that perspectives. and i loved the decision. that the viewer of money game part 2 literally is a tv watching couchpotato, staring at a tv =)
Anyone who said 1+2+3 aren't connected wasn't paying attention. All the way from the Poncho, to the "Child into a killer" (Jimmy) to *Removing* the Poncho (Protection) at the end of part 1 (Jimmy in the rain at the end)
Haha I think you are doing Acoustic Murdere cause you were jamming to the video, don’t worry, no pig in that one.. check out Love Music part 3, that’s a jam. Still need to do Chalk Outlines also with Chinchilla. Thanks Abi
Ren has had so many hardships that money caused. Not his money, but greedy pharma corporations, doctors, etc. I see now that his illness is not doing well and he is struggling with his mental health etc. But as always, love your reactions.💚
I think rich means different things to different people. If you’re living comfortably or even more than that, you’re not rich. You have more money than poor people sure but that doesn’t make you rich. The people above you are so astoundingly far above, that to them there is little to no difference between middle and lower class. We’re all cogs in their great machines. They’re the rich.
@@Abigirl_Reacts there’s no REN in the video to blush over but if you like his low tone.. mmm. It’s sexy as hell 😉 It’s a spin off from another song they did called Why my woman, now that will make you blush 😂
Ren certainly knows that not all rich people are bad people, he's generalising in a few song lyrics, not writing a thesis. His over-reaching theme in the 3 MG songs is greed. Whether he's referencing clearing rain forests or running for president, there is plenty of examples of money driving corruption. It's quite telling in MG1 where polarising the people, getting people to hate on immigrants, is a tactic to achieve high office. "They're eating the dogs, there eating the cats" springs to mind. Enjoyed you reacting to these, looking forward to you covering MG3.
Remember abputbthis internet: There are always two opposing opinions when you ask a question. You will always be wrong. But you will always be right. I like to say, "Shit in one hand, crap in the other. Take your pick." Just choose and move forward. Which you did! 🤙
Of course not all rich people are bad. Ren isn't going against the rich but against capitalism, against greed. We all abuse the system as much as we can, are parasitic. He says the whole time not to blame each other. That's why the order is important again. Part 1 is the relativation for the disstrack against our greedy nature in part 2 and part 3 explains how everybody can become in the situation the others blame for being greedy.
also, i forget where i saw it but i remember an interview where Ren was talking about "seven sins", where he said that, in his opinion, greed is by far the most egregious of the seven deadly sins. for the record, i tend to agree with him.
@@Abigirl_Reacts hi ya! look I'm really sorry I don't write much, I use a stylus and my mouth to type so it becomes a bit samey when using predicted text, but really loving your Ren rabbit hole journey. Darren x
There's a huge difference between being successfully well off and being rich. I've done well in my life. I'm 55 and mostly retired because I don't need to earn any more to live. I still work because my main hobby is writing computer software, and if I sometimes monetise what I write. It pays for me to go to gigs and festivals and allows me to be gernerous to my friends. But that's the point. I have all I need and I've done it without exploiting others. I started out with next to nothing and got where I am by being good at what I do and working hard. The people Ren is talking about were mostly born with all they needed, and spent their lives exploiting others so they had even more. We're supposed to respect them and act as if they've added value to the World but they haven't. The World would be better off if they didn't exist. Why should we respect them?
I agreed with everything you said until the last part. Mostly cause you generalized a whole group (those born into wealth) and wished they didn't exist lol you don't need to respect them, that's fine. But someone in their family worked hard to gain his family's earnings. How he did it is unknown, we can't assume every single one did it through exploitation, although I'm sure some did.
I think you misunderstand somewhat. You are right, simply being born into wealth is not necessarily a problem. There are some who act honorably, pay their taxes and use their wealth to help others. Those are fine and I have no problem with them. They are very rare though, and for the most part we don't hear about them. The vast majority, and certainly those who are in the news all the time, exploit people, dodge taxes, and generally act dishonorably, adding no value to the world but expecting us to look up to them.Those I have a problem with.
As an Anarchist I will refrain from commenting about my opinions of money to myself so as not to hurt anyone's feelings and I will just say thank you for the reaction.
"Those who seek power are not worthy of that power" - Plato Or for a more recent take on that, "It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." - Douglas Adams
@@Abigirl_Reacts And therein lies the paradox... Those most suited for it most likely won't want it, and those who want it are the least suited for it. Electing a leader is almost always a choice between the lesser of evils, and seldom about choosing the actual best person for the job.
It’s ok Fangirl over Ren lots of people do In my opinion Ren is the most important incomparable unique independent artist of the first half of the 21st Century stay safe be kind project love and it will come back twofold x
It not all about ** money ** but it is a common frame mind set.. Pt 1> is a general outlook on the 'games' everyone plays Ren is in dark clothing representing the darker side of thing. Romain Axisa (hooded person) representing the innocence -- that could be just about anyone/ any thing and until the problem has a face (the eyes being drawn on) The dark side run the show. Once the innocence *sees* what the dark side is doing > the dark side destroys itself P t 2> is cooperate/ capitalism aspect Pt 3> Is personal/ generational .. being **groomed** I know it is spelled out RAIN --- but if you think of the homophone reign being raise (pt 3) it a cycle (back to pt 1)
what u may not know is the Company shell Oil they started out in 1833 selling tropical seashell before they became shell Oil
I know now, that's quite impressive!
Romain Axisa is playing guitar...he is French and Ren´s former room mate + member of "The big Push" and has also some very nice solo tracks on YT defintively also worth to check out.
Ill have to check him out, he's great on that guitar!
@@Abigirl_Reacts Check out The Big Push with their version of BONGO BONG Live - Romain plays a mandolin and Goran plays a really great bass line. It's an absolute belter of a live performance. I know you will enjoy it Abi x th-cam.com/video/EQAUupOFarw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=q2AVkMJBxGs2Xy7S
Ren had the balls to just do Money Game 2 recently on his first tv appearance at the Sky Arts Awards 2024 in front of an audience of the types of people that he’s singing about. It’s worth checking out. 💜 He said he was feeling awful that day but he did very well.
He did great!
Yeah, love ya, but rich people are not what ren sees as bad. GREED. That’s his issue. He hates the fact that people will sacrifice the betterment of the world for cash. That’s basically the gist.
hehe yes! I had to rewatch a few times but I get it now ^_^
Depends how you define Rich, Wealthy, Greedy I think Ren means those that have more than they need, multiple mansions/yachts more than you could spend in a life time. Those that have sufficient but still want more, for what purpose? Also those that obtain it at the expense of others.
The Money Game Trilogy is a Modern Day Fable on the Evils of Greed. Ren stated "Mold will Grow upon the Surface and Consumes til it dies, and Our Fate could be the same without this Story to the Wise" The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! These Songs are meant to Inform and Educate the Compassionate and a Stark Reminder to the Greedy "WE SEE YOU!"
AMEN, haha well said
He’s not hating the player he’s hating the game that we’re all “forced” to play
Well said!
“Not all” is very common as a defence but there are reasons for generalisations. Never apply generalisations to individuals; but generalisations are useful to groups. Also - most people think “rich” is what they might be. That is not the same as the 1%.
IMO there is a ceiling to wealth beyond which you are immoral. No one is an ethical billionaire. It’s not possible to be one without having essentially stolen that from others. It’s not ethical to be one in a world with such imbalance. Etc.
I don't know anything about being a billionaire but I just can't believe that ALL of them got there by stealing! That's all I'm trying to say, I can't generalize a whole group of people regardless of what it is. Just the way I am I guess! But thank you for your valuable opinion ^_^
There's a certain irony in "a particular country" historically billed as "The land of opportunity" where "Making something of oneself" has always been admired, yet an arbitrary number, or designation now somehow makes one automatically "immoral"?
I suppose I could point out that a "billionaire" in 2024 is probably equivalent to a "Millionaire" in... 1960?
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There's a certain level of "success" (Monetary wealth) beyond which the gain is self perpetuating.
Let's say 5 times "Living requirement"?
Once the excess is reinvested (For personal gain) it's only a matter of time before it compounds to the "Billion" level.
What's more important is the intention of the individual.
Are they motivated by personal gain or mission?
Are they generating benefit for others?
(I'll let you guess the example)
IF their gain is not realised in "cash", but instead left "Available but not taken" in the vessels (Companies?) which generated the income, AND those companies have a common goal to benefit others, would that not be "Ethical"?
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As the saying goes, "You can't make omelettes without breaking eggs"
You can't CHANGE a system without being IN the system.
You can't FIGHT money without HAVING money.
(something which was almost VERY evident in the earlier days of the particular example I'm thinking of )
In certain cases only time will tell if an individual is/ was on "the right side of history"
@@Abigirl_Reactsthe thing is in that case what ren says still applies, because even i f we assume someone made it to being a billionaire doing absolutely nothing morally shady (which is already a big if and is likely only realistic from someone with generational wealth to start far ahead with) then they still dont care for the poor because they have far more money than they could ever reasonably need whilst people are struggling and dying so just by possessing so much superfluous wealth they are acting immorally and selfishly thats the problem. Good people will never become billionaires because they will either stop seeking or start ofloading money before reaching that ludicrous figure.
@@Abigirl_Reacts I'd be shocked if anyone can find a billionaire that didn't get their wealth from immoral behaviour. Millionaire possibly but not a billionaire.
Ren is trying to get the guitar player(Romain) to 'open his eyes' to the 'Money Game'. In the final scene he follows a practice pursued by Buddhist Monks in history. The self-immolation was used to 'open the peoples eyes' that they 'live in a burning house'.
Interesting!
The major think you will have missed is that in the 3rd one where he ends the song with "presses on the trigger of the money game" it ends. If he would have continued it would have been "rain rain"... Etc. jimmy was in the rain, had poison in his veins. It's poetic.
And it stood in front of a mirror
Also, the strings are playing part of the hook...
poetic indeed 100%
"Manipulate the data, and the lie will sell itself" > "Those who rise, through distorted lies"
a couple more for other songs, "such a shame" and Jimmy are the tales (Jimmy is a nickname for James). and "cannibal minds" is Animal Flow.
The father of the sons that started Shell Oil actually sold shells and made a fortune. Conch shells mostly and people hadn't seen before in the early 1900s. Eventually making jewellery, necklaces and such. 1932 the sons started Shell Oil.
I never knew that! Woah haha
@Abigirl_Reacts Plus, the early diamond companies did exactly what he said. They stored millions of diamonds so people would think they are rare, plus they'd have the market cornered. They're not rare at all. When I learned about that, I stopped wearing "precious" gems. I felt like buying them was akin to setting your money on fire. And the line "stock pile 'em high until they're rarer than a diamond" was Ren's cheeky reference to that.
The strings in part 3 are playing the humming melody in parts 1 & 2
Rain, rain, rain... the end of MG3 ends in Jimmy getting rained on. John Carpenter CHEATED to win.
Specifically the violins.
its beautiful!
in Money Game 3 there are some musical references to MG1 and 2 . The melody that Ren sings at the beginning ( when he stands in front of the mirror) and the same melody played by the string quartet. And the " rain rain rain" which actually becomes rain at the end of the song.
I noticed the rain rain rain ^_^
Romain on guitar, he is part of The Big Push and has some brilliant sole songs " Time after Time " is beautiful.
Added, ty!
Ren gave us a little history lesson in part one and then followed it up with an economics class. It takes a very clever and flexible mind to break down a complex topic in a way that everyone can understand it. To then do it using a well known nursery rhyme? And in the form of rap? Ren is a genius.
Anyway while part 3 does stand on its own, rewatch it now with these two in mind. He might not sing the chorus, but think about what happens in the story and the video…
Rain, rain, rain, rain!
Thank you Abi for doing them in order always love your reactions to Ren ❤❤❤
Thanks for being so sweet and understanding ^_^
Yep i totally understand the soft spoken Ren 😊 I'm old enough to be his mom and usually I'm not a cougar but...😊
Are you ready for "sad boy" Ren music (his name for it) ? After you finish Money Game series do you want to go to the darker rabbit hole?
Here's some songs to cry over:
Chalk Outlines
How to be me
Su1c1de
For Joe
Pocket Full of Pain
And the one I ALWAYS cry over is Crutch.😢
Or we can go bragadocious with Animal Flow
Hunger
Illest of our time
Freckled angels too
@@williamparrish9954ooh yeah I forgot about Freckled Angels!
Both versions of Animal Flow, live one second.
Live version of Murderer
You may of called it! but that's all Ill say haha
Yes. YES. and YESS!!
Ren is openly anti capitalism and the 1% get under his skin.
He loves the generous and hates the gready.
Would like you to go back to 2016 Ren Gill Patients the 4 minutes plus version has a wee interview before he sings
It's when they thought he had ME. A beautiful touching acoustic live ❤.
✌️♥️🏴.
Thank you so much for the suggestion! I'll have to check out younger Ren ^_^
He's actually not anti capitalist. He stated that in I think it was a Twitch stream? That or an interview. He's not against capitalism, he's against removing the humanity from it.
Ren is not anti capitalist. I didn’t ready your comment further because it started with inaccuracy.
It’s important to be 100% positive when making statements about someone else’s beliefs, thoughts, ideologies. Have a great day!!❤
Check the interview Ren had with Chris Liepe, he explains not singing the refrain from from Money Game 1 & 2 ( rain rain rain ) in 3, but it is still there.
I will, thanks!
The only similarities that I can find in the music between the money game part 3 and part 1 and 2 is when you hear the violins at the end they do play the melody that Ren hums during money game one and two.
I heard it too, beautiful how he tied it in!
@Abigirl_Reacts
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An interpretation.
1) The System
2) The Method
3) The Analogy.
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MG1
Ren: The Establishment
Protected from "The Rain" (Soon to become "The Storm") By the Poncho.
Romain Axisa...Guitarist: (You'll get to know him later)
Representing "The Population". "Playing along", obeying orders.
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A brief musical synopsis
Including the reference to "Turns a Saint into a Sinner, A Child into a Killer".... Meet Jimmy (The order is important?)
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Political interlude:
Composed "Peak Trump" (2018?) Hence the "Southern Border issue/ Immigrant/ Hate" reference.
Also the reference "there's no Left, There's no Right, in the middle 'We' sleep". The party doesn't matter, it's one self serving "club".
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Then, "The Population" Gains insight (Eyes) and sees the system for what it is.
At that point there's a choice (Except there isn't)
"Burn" the "Population"
Or
Burn "The Establishment" (If there's any doubt, this is confirmed by the cross-reference to the "Number 10 Downing Street Burns in a fire" from Part 2)
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The poncho (Protection) comes off, and the system does "burn"
Side note...
Look at the current Geopolitical situation, We have "a State" (In the Middle East) Seemingly trying to "Burn" a population(?)
We have several global players where it seems at least some of the population can see the cracks forming in the Establishment?
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Parallel drawn by Jimmy, who "Comes home out of the *rain* soaking wet (no protection) upon a wheelchair......
He has everything he wants...." (You can *print* money, but if it's worth nothing...)
Ending with the "child (from MG1) with his finger on the trigger"..... (Jimmy) PULLING the trigger (HIS "Storm")
ALL connected....
(And I probably missed a few)
Thank you for your insightful comment! ^_^
Not many catch the "She sells sea shells by the sea shore" when Ren referenced it in Hi Ren. "Hi Ren, we've heard it before, she sells sea shells on the sea floor"
I JUST did from a previous comment, that's great how he did that!
Money Game 1 - This is a one-shot. Sam the videographer said “again like with money game we ended up doing like 186 takes to get that right oh my God” in an interview along with Ren and Black Pegasus (th-cam.com/video/eWf7bT_jf6U/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=5483) 1 hour 31 minutes in
That is so impressive!
Part 1 - they were all set up to go and shoot it (under the Brighton Palace Pier) and then when they turned up there were works going on, so the whole crew had to leave and come back later. Then it took 180+ takes to get it.
Part 2 - don't know much about the process, just love the *economics in a nursery rhyme* that describes current politics (in the UK and US) to a tee.
As far as I can tell, Kujo and his girl have been quiet since the Beatdown. But then I'm not a true Renegade and don't follow his posts on social media.
Keep up with the reactions, love watching them! We're all here waiting for the next masterpiece after Money Ties - and it'll be worth the wait.
Kujo has been quiet hasn't he? Good good, hopefully he gets it now.
9:16 - haha, I was kinda waiting for that.
9:18 - lol, tryna play it cool, I see. ;)
9:47 - why? For the art.
10:47 - I mean, maybe. But... you sure about that? Well, and what definition of "Rich" are we going by, here? Also, have you encountered Anand Giridharadas? Maybe check out his Oxford Union talk, or his "Winners Take All" book and/or talk (e.g. at, ironically, Google)... because while at some level I'm sure you're right, it is, to me, immoral _simply to allow yourself to be_ particularly wealthy (not just have-a-nice-house level, mind you, but like... really wealthy) for anything but a brief not-in-your-control period of time (unexpected inheritance or lottery win or something), AND, a whole lot of those who are and remain wealthy do a whole lot of reputation washing doing "nice things" to make us _think_ they're not awful people, when in fact, they're creating problems and even death all around them, often enough. Anand does a nice job of laying this out, in my opinion.... And... 11:20... I dunno, while we may have different definitions of "rich" in mind, in which case I agree with you, then I think they _have_ to not care for you, in order to become and remain "rich" (by the definition I'm thinking of -- nebulous as it may be). Like, it's just baked in to how these things work.
12:37 - often, yes. We could be doing things _so_ very differently... And "bleeding resources all dry" means death, so... even if it's "needed", it's not a great choice, it seems to me.
13:56 - I've always heard it as «old», or maybe «ol'», but yeah, old. Could be wrong, but that's how I've always heard it.
15:02 - because they're making breathable air rare. (It's dystopian af, but... it's happening. See Boost Oxygen or "oxygen bars", etc. Oh yeah, and smog. Does anybody remember the notion of smog? I know that's kind of a thing from LA in the 1980's, but... dirty air is still a thing in lots of places, and that's likely to get worse.) This is all described by a phenomenon called "enclosure of the commons", and another called "primitive accumulation" (though "primitive" is a horrible name for it, that's the common term in use, sadly)... worth looking into the concepts, in my opinion. Just, know thar be dragons there... you'll learn some dark realities. But hey, it's reality, so, it's good to know, mostly? Just... have some support or self care lined up when you do it, I guess.
19:24 - Yeah, this _seems_ to support my working hypothesis that you're talking about "rich" on a different level. Like, to have a nice house, nice things, and the ability to have nice meals, etc. That's one definition of rich. Another doesn't even need material wealth, it's about the richness of internal experience, stuff like that. If either of those are what you mean, then yeah, rich people aren't all evil. But billionaires? Or even those with tens of millions of dollars of personal wealth or more? In my opinion, the very fact that they allow themselves to be in that class of wealth while others starve is, inherently, an immoral act. So, while they may be perfectly nice people to their friends, or even to strangers, they're also still doing harm, just by allowing themselves to be (and remain) in that class of wealth. There _might_ be exceptions to this, and I'd be willing to hear your (or anyone's ) arguments, but........ yeah.
21:01 - I'd be curious to hear your take on Animal Flow. I also bet you'd get a kick out of The Hunger. Just two suggestions, though... do whatever Ren you like, and I'll likely come find it. :)
What an insightful comment, thank you so much for your thoughts! Animal flow eh? Its definitely on my list but when should I tackle it...hmmm
@@Abigirl_Reacts gladly! I was a little worried about how parts of it would land, so I'm glad you found it insightful. When should you tackle Animal Flow? Well, when things flow that way? ;)
Shell oil started as an antique shop selling sea shells...........
I learned that recently, how crazy!
That pose with the fingerguns is a shoutout to Childish Gambino (Donald Glover), paying homage to his video "This is America". Which, If you haven't seen it, it's also filled to the brim with social commentary and subtext. Highly recommend.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Great reactions. And to answer your question about Rens Sky Arts awards live performance, I did answer further down but in case you don't see it, yes it is new! It was only about two weeks ago!
Amazing! But sad he got sick again.
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yeah, I don't know anymore than everyone else. But I do think he's been pushing himself really hard since he came back from Canada. Hopefully it's just a case of taking it a bit easier for a while. ❤
shell oil started this way they use to import shells from China Shell was formed in April 1907 through the merger of Royal Dutch Petroleum Company of the Netherlands and The "Shell" Transport and Trading Company of the United Kingdom.
Did you know that Shell began life as an antiques dealer?
The surprising history of the fossil fuel giant
I didnt know that!
I swear, you do the best "wait, that's it?" face of all Ren reactors.
Oh haha as in, wait I want more music?! NO DON'T END NOW lmao
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yep. We all do it. But you look equal parts confused, disappointed and personally insulted... it's kinda hilarious. It might be why I've been binge-watching your reactions.
Wait, does six count as a binge?
Off to watch the Hype Hypa reaction; it'll take a lot to beat the reaction by Arab Man (Over)Reacts, though 😀
its recorded under a pier in Brighton that's the sea you can hear in the background . Romain from The Big Push is on the guitar
I love how much of his stuff is recorded in his home town ^_^
"She sells seashells on the seashore..." one of the best known nursery rhymes 🤷♀️ Why indeed?
hmmmm!
@@Abigirl_Reacts go back and listen to Hi Ren now and find the call back to MG2 😁
Awesome reaction as always... Love the reactions ❤
Thanks for watching ^_^
@@Abigirl_Reacts you ought to do the love music series.. There's 4... 🤗
I absolutely love how can identify at the beginning that it’s live!! Most reactors can’t or don’t do that!! You are a smart cookie!!❤
Thank you so much!!
Money game 1 took 186 takes over 3 days in a friends basement, and it's something inane like fruit juice and olive oil that he pours over himself. They did try to do a live version of part 2 but Ren was not doing well and the take they decided to go with was missing half of its audio because of a technical error. So they released the lyric video instead.
Not sure what's happening with Kujo because Ren's disease has relapsed and he has to go back to Canada to receive treatment, which he said is going to knock him out for a while. Hopefully he'll have a team that behaves in his best interests this time around.
I'm sad Ren has to take a break again but wish him a speedy recovery 🙏
Go Ren, go. Money, money, money.
Hope he makes all the money! 💰 🤑 💸
Ren - Eden is a part of Money Game 3. it released a few minutes before MG3 premiere countdown.
let him tell you a story
Sequel to mg3?
@@Abigirl_Reacts not sequel. a week before MG3
Ren organize a 7 days treasure hunt.
the last day,the hunt ends on a treasure chest that contains an apple.
one of the guys bite the apple and Ren - Eden starts..
when it end, the 3 minutes countdown for MG3 premiere, started to run..
the views and the reactions for Eden, are criminaly low. th-cam.com/video/NdSLsRKnafI/w-d-xo.html&pp=ygUIcmVuIGVkZW4%3D
we try to push it, bcz in there Ren explains his morals in life and expose his religion . .
( on Money Game 2, the 'shells' represent the oil company. did you knew Shell oils started as a company that sell actually shells? )
the name of the man with the money bag
is Romain Axisa
Oh from the big push, got it!
I know why you physically react when Ren whispers!❤😊
I... I dont know what you mean! ^_^
*Ren pulls off poncho, revealing shredded torso in tank top*
instant thirsty Abi reaction followed by covering it up for this serious moment rofl
Look, I can't help myself OKAY? lol🤣🤣🤣
@@Abigirl_Reacts lol definitely don't feel bad. I'm a straight guy and even I can say yep, that is one attractive man, and talented AF... that makes one very very pretty package, no doubt lol
Great reactions. Love your smile and laugh. This also echos "Hi Ren" when dark Ren mocks him by saying we've heard it all before she sells seashells on the seashore. Ren's lyric videos are also. Other Great ones are "Humble," "Life if funny," "Loco," "wicked ways," the "Love music" videos, "Masochist,"" "seven sins" and "uninvited". I suspect you will be doing the acoustic version of "murderer" but I really really hope you do the acoustic version of "genesis" at some point
can't forget lost all faith
believe it or not, I had all of those on my list! Except for lost all my faith listed in a reply to you. And yes! Murder acoustic due to publish...10-5 if Im not sick still!
Btw, on the subject of lyric videos, maybe the rarest of all Ren reactions would be to his video "meaning". Hopefully, you can add it to your list after your return from sick leave. It is extremely short so maybe you can pair it with another extremely short one "right here, right now" as that phrase echos his key thought in "meaning". Hope I am making you curious. Take care
"Ok, my heart, my heart, ok, lets just go..." In Money Game 3, Ren incorporates the chorus from 1 & 2 through visuals. Rain, rain, rain (Jimmy gets rained on in the last scene), point the mirror at ourselves (Ren begins by singing while looking into the mirror). Trump was POTUS when 1 & 2 were released. 💛🤘🤙✌️
Did I say that lmao my heart ❤️?
@Abigirl_Reacts Verbatim, my dear heart. 😅🤣😂
Do you remember on "Hi Ren" the part where is said "Sally sells seashells on the sea shore"... hmmm
OH YEA haha nice
The one playing guitar is Romaine, his bandmate from the big push
He's quite impressive!
''Turns a saint into a sinner, a child into a killer
His finger on the trigger of a money game'' makes me think of Jimmy from part 3
Wonderful insight!
This was GREAT.
Thank you.
You're very welcome! Thanks for watching ^_^
You may or may not know this but the song “Losing it” has little or no references to greed or capitalism. Have I mentioned this song before? I forget😝
Can't wait to get to this request! ^_^
The "turns a child into a killer" leads to Jimmy in part 3 - his finger on the trigger of a money game
Yessss love how he tied that in!
i think that it should be noted right here that an effort was made by Abi to remain professional when Ren took off his poncho! if i'm to be entirely honest, i think it was a somewhat half hearted effort, nonetheless an effort it was. so well done i guess!
awesome reaction as always, i enjoy your singing along a lot and thanks so much for sharing and supporting Ren. much love to you and yours🙂🙂🙂❤❤❤
I tried my best OKAY?! lmao ahhhh I just can't help myself. Reacting to Ren is the most fun I've had with these YTV videos. I need more, I mean, we need more Ren!
The sea shell represent house in this video that's what he means by shelter 😎👍
Oh OK got it 👍
Great reaction as usual, and i agree with most of your opinions, especially about politicians. Lol. In my opinion though, i think Ren knows the difference between the greedy rich and the wealthy. My opinion is based off of what he says in his song troubles about "the angel". And also his chapters of course.
I've never heard of angels! I'll need to check it out ^_^
1 and 2 are perfectly lyrical. You'll want to do 3 just to see why awards were won perhaps ❤❤❤ guessing you never saw the monk who burned himself. Thats ok. Read rather than try to watch it. And Chaplin... the dictator. That, is ever worth watching ❤
He's soon awards for MG3? That's great!
The "Rich Man" is more referring to the multi-billionaires, the only way to get there is on the backs of corporate employees.
Yes I got that after a few more listens ^_^ thanks for the comment!
John carpenter was a winner of the uk who wants to be a millionaire and was found out later for cheating. He had a friend in the audience who would cough or make a certain noise when the correct answer was read out.
As for the part about rich people I don’t think Ren means literally all rich people but in general rich people do not care about poor people unless they are making more money out of it.
Great reaction 💙
Yea I rewatched a few times and got that he's moreso talking about billionaire corporations and such not just wealthy people. I don't believe in general that rich people only care about others only if it's their best interest to do so but I respect your opinion nonetheless. For me, it depends. I've noticed that the people who worked hard to earn the money they earned are way more generous. People who are given the money (say winning the lottery for example) are more greedy. Thank you for your input!
@@Abigirl_Reacts I think we agree more on this than you might think, I just didn’t word it very well and just used a broad brush which is something I need to work on. I meant in general from my personal experience and I would agree that those who work hard for their money are usually much more generous than someone who has it handed to them.
We are in agreement! ^_^
Lovely reaction, as always. Love seeing you pop-up.
Next song, something acoustic to what we already heard?
Coming up on...10/5 ^_^
@@Abigirl_Reacts you know it... 😁😘
Excuse my novel 😂 Butmy understanding of the Ren hating greed / rich folks thing ~ The central message from all three songs is that we all play a part in the money game, the massive systems of capitalism and wealth inequality may not change, neither will pointing blame, but if us as individuals could point the mirror at ourselves, we would realize we are also playing the game and responsible for the suffering it causes. I think Ren believes as do I that the suffering that is caused by inequality could be reduced if us as individuals became more aware of the systems in place and hopefully this became kinder to others, more generous and more judgemental of the flaws in our systems.
Though I think when Ren talks about the rich, I think he mostly means the ultra mega rich - these people in the money game bear more responsibility for the suffering of others than a regular person, a poor person or even a very wealthy person.
The richer you become, the more of an ethical dilemma it starts to become, not only because you are essentially hoarding money that you don't need, but also because by that point the means by which you make that money tend to become more and more ethically questionable. Jimmy is an example of this, parts of his story echo what happens all the time when people become mega wealthy.
Part 1: look at the system
Part 2: look how deep the system goes
Part 3: those who we demonize most are also victims of the system
Thank you for your insightful comment! ^_^
Superb reaction, and I love your singing voice! Now I beg of you: do the story of Eden, it's arguably Money Game part 4. It's extraordinary, captivating, confronting, sad, beautiful... and VERY few reactors react to it. I'd so love to see you react to it, get your take on it!!!! Hell, if money helps make it happen I even solemnly promise to join your Patreon if you do!
Thanks so much for offering ^_^ I'm confused though, someone told me i should have done eden before mg3?
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yeah, technically Eden came out before MG3, and it was the culmination (conclusion?) of the money game 'social experiment' leading up to the release of MG3, but to me Eden takes the whole thing to another level, beyond the individual or personal but utterly personal while kinda philosophical, mythological, historical and totally practical... OK, so I'm struggling to put worthy prose to it, you'll do a much better job of that than I can!
And I'm serious about the Patreon, I can only afford to 'patreonise' one person at a time, and I'm one binge away from watching the last few of my current 'patreonee's' Firefly/Serenity reactions, and come what may, you're next.
Firefly is one of my favorites, great show!
I'd say that Ren's vibrato is like a lot of old-school reggae singers.
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A good idea to do them in order although it is not essential - look out for the way the "Rain, rain, rain, rain" hook is portrayed in Money Game 3.
Guitarist is Romain Axisa. They were flatmates for about 5 years or so and he is lead guitarist in The Big Push with Ren (you'll encounter them soon enough and have your mind blown once again trust me). He is super talented and has a lot of solo stuff too on his YT channel which I cannot recommend highly enough.
She sells sea shells on the sea shore - that line also appears in HI Ren when he is talking about being unoriginal - a call back to this song.
Just seen you are ill right now so dose up and rest up and hope you are back feeling on top form soon.
Thank you for all the info, it's awesome how he tied that all in. I'm responding to comments literally while lying in bed. I might as well have an ice pack on my head and thermometer in my mouth hehe trying to get better as fast as I can!
Thanks!
No problem!
ooh ooh, also, sorry for repeat posts, but i wanna call it, the next video is totally gonna be "murderer" acoustic version. can't come soon enough for me, i love it! thanks again.
Its happening!
Part 3 came a couple few years after 1 and 2.
Neato!
I was late to this reaction, sorry. I love how our facial expressions match in "certain" points of his videos 😂
I couldn't help myself haha happy we're on the same page
Eden by Ren if I remember right it's the ending of money game. It's powerful to say the least
Someone said eden is before mg3, not sure though.
I love your reactions and this one was great! I don’t know if you keep up with rens community tab on TH-cam but he has made very concerning posts as of late. His health isn’t doing well and his illness appears to be relapsing. You should check it out. We must continue to support Ren through these tough times by keeping his music alive and his community thriving. Please keep reacting to Ren and we will keep showing up and all together we can raise the tide and lift Rens ship up. The rising tide lifts all ships. Ren’s too!
I heard =( read his post in the community tab of his YT page and I got so upset. I wish him a speedy recovery. He's been through enough!
@@Abigirl_Reacts agreed! The part that gets me is we all know what Ren has been through, and as he is looking at going back into the trenches with his illness and he’s worried about new releases for his fans! The man is a legend and deserves all the support we can muster for him. I’d hate for him to think for even a moment that there aren’t millions of fans and friends standing with him.
next song will be "Murderer" a soon as you said acoustic a new it! :D
Good catch! scheduled for... 10-5 ^_^
The third one actually has physical rain showing the storm has come
Its beautiful how he tied that in!
Good heavens, I'm late to this one and there were SO many comments. So I have to add that Ren has said multiple times he is NOT opposed to capitalism per se, but the profit motive needs to be set aside in certain ventures, such as medicine, where human welfare is the priority. He also argues for prioritizing the health of the environment over profit.
oh my goodness, then I agree wholeheartedly! I thought he just HATES capitalism! I'd love to hear him talk more about the subject. Any suggested videos? I love him regardless but it's still interesting!
@@Abigirl_Reacts This one is very good and the discussion is over the first 20 minutes or so, as I recall. He keeps sounding like he isn't going to say any more, then he does. Emotional! It was at the end of 2 weeks of games he had the fans playing online, which was intense. th-cam.com/video/IlOfjoxUkMA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Z8ePS4F5Gjzwlaev
great reaction as usual, love your mix of goofy excited reactions and paniced nervous ones at rens antics. I would deffo suggest relistening to money game one with a lyric sheet up as some of rens really clever bits of lyricism fall in amongst the fast parts that can be hard to parse.
also I think its safe to say with examples like jimmy in part 3, thatwhile ren may dislike greed and the super rich as a monolith on an individual level he is capable of empathising and understanding that the system we have built causes these dark actions and people to arise and they dont exist in a vacuum. doesnt necessarily make up for the harm they may have caused but it does explain it and shows that thinks maybe could be different.
Well said ^_^
I think Money game part 2 something never ever mentions: Ren can include his audience, like in jenny and screech you are screech, jenny, violat, the police officer... all that perspectives. and i loved the decision. that the viewer of money game part 2 literally is a tv watching couchpotato, staring at a tv =)
Indeed hehe well said
There is a live version of money game part 2 the sky arts awards
Oh cool, is it a new performance?
@Abigirl_Reacts just a live version at an awards ceremony
th-cam.com/video/jJmV1A4O1eM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TMx7VeQoUJ3AaKTR
@@Abigirl_Reacts Yeah it is new. It was only about 2 weeks ago.
Ren loves Romain,,,.., and Romain is 100% loveable
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Great reaction!!😃
Thanks Brenda
Anyone who said 1+2+3 aren't connected wasn't paying attention.
All the way from the Poncho, to the "Child into a killer" (Jimmy) to *Removing* the Poncho (Protection) at the end of part 1 (Jimmy in the rain at the end)
Super cool! Rain rain rain
Haha I think you are doing Acoustic Murdere cause you were jamming to the video, don’t worry, no pig in that one.. check out Love Music part 3, that’s a jam. Still need to do Chalk Outlines also with Chinchilla. Thanks Abi
oh heck yea, coming soon!
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Also, you need to watch the live performance if MG2 at the Sky Awards. It was also his first live TV performance. Brave choice.
ooh indeed I do, thank you!
Love your reactions
Thank you for the kind words ^_^
Ren has had so many hardships that money caused. Not his money, but greedy pharma corporations, doctors, etc. I see now that his illness is not doing well and he is struggling with his mental health etc. But as always, love your reactions.💚
Thanks for your insight Michael!
Have remember we all part of the money game 😢😢😢
Indeed!
I think rich means different things to different people. If you’re living comfortably or even more than that, you’re not rich. You have more money than poor people sure but that doesn’t make you rich. The people above you are so astoundingly far above, that to them there is little to no difference between middle and lower class. We’re all cogs in their great machines. They’re the rich.
Well said!
Plus remember when Jimmy comes out of the Rain pt 3
Rain rain rain!
Great reaction ❤
Glad you enjoyed it ^_^
Oh if you think his voice is deep here you need to react to oh my woman with the big push 😂 😳 🧎🏼♀️
Will I...blush!?
@@Abigirl_Reacts Not as much as in "Losing it"! I got you twice this time.
@@Abigirl_Reacts there’s no REN in the video to blush over but if you like his low tone.. mmm. It’s sexy as hell 😉 It’s a spin off from another song they did called Why my woman, now that will make you blush 😂
THANK YOU 😂😂😂
you're welcome! ^_^
Ren certainly knows that not all rich people are bad people, he's generalising in a few song lyrics, not writing a thesis. His over-reaching theme in the 3 MG songs is greed. Whether he's referencing clearing rain forests or running for president, there is plenty of examples of money driving corruption. It's quite telling in MG1 where polarising the people, getting people to hate on immigrants, is a tactic to achieve high office. "They're eating the dogs, there eating the cats" springs to mind. Enjoyed you reacting to these, looking forward to you covering MG3.
I've actually done mg3 if you want to take a look! ^_^
@@Abigirl_Reacts Ah! Goody gum drops, I'll certainly do that this evening.
Remember abputbthis internet:
There are always two opposing opinions when you ask a question. You will always be wrong. But you will always be right.
I like to say, "Shit in one hand, crap in the other. Take your pick."
Just choose and move forward. Which you did! 🤙
Your comment made me smile ^_^
Of course not all rich people are bad. Ren isn't going against the rich but against capitalism, against greed. We all abuse the system as much as we can, are parasitic. He says the whole time not to blame each other.
That's why the order is important again. Part 1 is the relativation for the disstrack against our greedy nature in part 2 and part 3 explains how everybody can become in the situation the others blame for being greedy.
Yea after relistening a few I got that as well but I still don't agree that capitalism and greed go hand in hand. To each their own though!
Big push next 🙏🏻 the mashup one i mentioned before. You will love it trust me
I have no doubt you're right!
@@Abigirl_Reacts I don't want to spoil it but you will hear Ren in a way you've never heard him before..
Yes, it's yet another string in his bow 😂
also, i forget where i saw it but i remember an interview where Ren was talking about "seven sins", where he said that, in his opinion, greed is by far the most egregious of the seven deadly sins. for the record, i tend to agree with him.
I'd love to watch that, let me now if you find it!
You should see the treasure hunt that leads up to money game 3
Its that literally a video you're referring to? Hehe
Ren & Sam Tompkins - Earned it /Mans World / Falling
Nice, thank you for your suggestions!
❤from D in the UK 🇬🇧 for the algo ❤
hello again!
@@Abigirl_Reacts hi ya! look I'm really sorry I don't write much, I use a stylus and my mouth to type so it becomes a bit samey when using predicted text, but really loving your Ren rabbit hole journey. Darren x
There's a huge difference between being successfully well off and being rich. I've done well in my life. I'm 55 and mostly retired because I don't need to earn any more to live. I still work because my main hobby is writing computer software, and if I sometimes monetise what I write. It pays for me to go to gigs and festivals and allows me to be gernerous to my friends.
But that's the point. I have all I need and I've done it without exploiting others. I started out with next to nothing and got where I am by being good at what I do and working hard. The people Ren is talking about were mostly born with all they needed, and spent their lives exploiting others so they had even more. We're supposed to respect them and act as if they've added value to the World but they haven't. The World would be better off if they didn't exist. Why should we respect them?
I agreed with everything you said until the last part. Mostly cause you generalized a whole group (those born into wealth) and wished they didn't exist lol you don't need to respect them, that's fine. But someone in their family worked hard to gain his family's earnings. How he did it is unknown, we can't assume every single one did it through exploitation, although I'm sure some did.
I think you misunderstand somewhat. You are right, simply being born into wealth is not necessarily a problem. There are some who act honorably, pay their taxes and use their wealth to help others. Those are fine and I have no problem with them. They are very rare though, and for the most part we don't hear about them. The vast majority, and certainly those who are in the news all the time, exploit people, dodge taxes, and generally act dishonorably, adding no value to the world but expecting us to look up to them.Those I have a problem with.
Abi!!! ❤❤❤
Daniel! ^_^
As an Anarchist I will refrain from commenting about my opinions of money to myself so as not to hurt anyone's feelings and I will just say thank you for the reaction.
Oh OK, thanks for watching! ^_^
"Those who seek power are not worthy of that power" - Plato Or for a more recent take on that, "It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." - Douglas Adams
Hmm then who should run for president?
@@Abigirl_Reacts And therein lies the paradox... Those most suited for it most likely won't want it, and those who want it are the least suited for it. Electing a leader is almost always a choice between the lesser of evils, and seldom about choosing the actual best person for the job.
To be fair, Ren gives me chills and I'm a 50+ year old cis, hetero, white male.
... what were we talking about?
Ren and chills I believe was the subject ^_^
Looking forward to the... Acoustic version of...😊
Coming soon!
It’s ok Fangirl over Ren lots of people do In my opinion Ren is the most important incomparable unique independent artist of the first half of the 21st Century stay safe be kind project love and it will come back twofold x
Well said!
It not all about ** money ** but it is a common frame mind set..
Pt 1> is a general outlook on the 'games' everyone plays Ren is in dark clothing representing the darker side of thing.
Romain Axisa (hooded person) representing the innocence -- that could be just about anyone/ any thing and until the problem has a face (the eyes being drawn on) The dark side run the show. Once the innocence *sees* what the dark side is doing > the dark side destroys itself
P t 2> is cooperate/ capitalism aspect
Pt 3> Is personal/ generational .. being **groomed**
I know it is spelled out RAIN --- but if you think of the homophone reign being raise (pt 3) it a cycle (back to pt 1)
Very insightful, thank you!