We all came here with the same idea lol Great job on this one guys! Gotta feed the beast called algo 🦎 Edit: btw, those are money bags on their heads 😉
Me too. I really like these Ren reactions so wanted to feed the beast. Plus, for two guys who started with Kujo Beat Down I wanted to see your discussion on this because the irony of someone trying to "take" from Ren when he is so vocal about his opinions on greed is ridiculous.
been recent to ren but i feel his songs are an attempt to open our eyes, him drawing them in p-1 is to show we have vision but are blind to society overall. we know bad is happening but choose to ignore it when we benefit. when we don't its easier to burn ourselves than the reason. that's just my view on it
I came here to start a hate comment section due to the fact that you already made me enjoy MG1, 2 and 3 in separate reactions, and now you want me to listen to them again in ONE click-bait video??? Sure, no problem! :) Keep it up; love the hell out of your reactions. You guys just brighten up my day with your commentary!
I already saw all of them individually but you know damn well I gotta come back and watch it all as one lol. Much love! Seriously loving the reactions.
I believe his message is: “We are not powerless.” We have the option to change our fate just as REN did when he took off the noose and the cover off of his head. Meaning we can all do that. If you notice how easy it was for him to take it off, and when he did, he saw himself for the first time in the mirror. We can do the same, but we walk around with blinders of our own choosing. The system we think is holding us back is in fact a fragile one, a weak one just like the noose on a rope that isn’t fastened to any scaffolding, not realizing that if we just open her eyes, we will immediately figure out there’s no danger at the other end of the rope. It was all a lie. But we put on and keep the cover over our heads because it’s easier to aqueous to a system that has perfected and provides on a daily basis self perpetuating hypnosis. We do it because it’s easier, because the real struggle happens every time you wake up in the morning. The famous and late George Carlin said “the dream only works if you’re asleep“. The noose around your neck is loose and you are the one holding the other end.
I love that you are willing to go deep. Some people are not willing to truly explore or go deep for fear of being wrong. So being willing to really think and sink your teeth into things makes this a channel worth watching.
Love your takes. My two pence: Drawing the eyes on the hood in MG1 - Ren is forcibly opening our eyes. How much money is enough? - You two struggled a bit with this. Here is my take, there is no figure that is enough. Truth is, you can piss away any amount of money. When you focus on scarcity, there is no number that is ever enough. Want to go to Mars?
I remember first finding Ren and being blown away at how talented a person could be, great watching you guys go through the same realisation that Ren isn't just another musician, he's a generational talent
Ren will be forever relevant. This will never stop. Even when money stops existing. As long as we are here there is someone to teach about what we did wrong once.
ABOUT THE BAG…In the game Monopoly, the goal is to make as much money as you can. The Monopoly logo is a man running carrying a money bag as if he’s stealing it. We all, in one way or another, pursue money and wealth so we all have the money bag over our heads strangling us. With the bag over our head, all we see is money and nothing else. Influencers, corporations, and politicians want us to believe that money is all that matters. Ren drawing the eyes on the bagged guy in Money Game part 1 is telling us to open our eyes and see how we’re being manipulated. The bagged guy in Money Game 3 that grabs and replaces Ren at the piano is telling us that we’re all just cogs in the machine and can easily be replaced. Also…fun fact about Sea Shells in Money Game 2 is that the Shell Oil Corporation started out as a Shell shop in London selling rare shells. So it’s actually a true-to-life story where selling sea shells turns into selling oil and reaping the earth of its natural resources. I’m from AMERICA…and yes…we’re a shit-show right now. I believe Ren was absolutely talking about Trump…”stepping out on a stage to a round of applause…a liar, a cheat, a devil, a whore…etc”. If he gets re-elected, we’re totally fucked.
You explained the bag very well. I lways thought of hostages, which perfectly fits your ideas. Cheers from Germany, I keep my fingers crossed for your country and for all of us, that the orange conman goes away once and for all!
damn, crazy I had respect for this comment until you tried to pin it all on one man as if Kamala is any better, they are all politicians, and they are winning with more people with your mindset and brain capacity. Sad to see really.
@rwsimmons - What a couple wanted to say but didn't - And you are the sheep he was talking about in Part 1. Start thinking of the whole and not seeing in parts. You blind yourself.
My opinion is my opinion and I stand by it. Not here to argue the merits of one politician over another or to attack others because of their beliefs. Have a nice day.
Money only makes a difference if you can't pay for the basics, but once you can survive, you may think more will make you happier, but it doesn't. Gratitude for what you have is the key, no matter how much wealth you have. And I'm grateful for your reactions, guys 🇦🇺
Give these #TDIP men their flowers. As for Ren, one take is the 40th take in... they are disciplined and determined, rehearsed and discussion.. It takes bravery to failure to get it right. I am all in w this channel. ****edit - props to Ren's crew. You do not do this alone. He has amazing people about him. He is a master but he has a crew about him that allows for the best of the best of the best, I may be wrong but I believe $ game 3 came after he had success... the man took #1 in UK as an independent. and what the hell did he do? he put the money back into equipment and hiring people. This man has his head on right. Invest in those who are vested in you.
Love all your reactions. I've been binge watching them while I work on my art. Y'all cracked me up at the end of Money Game 3. You were so absolutely still that I thought my screen froze
Setting himself on fire in MG1, was him realising and acknowledging that he is part of the problem too. He kept on wanting to hurt the person with the bag over the head and kind of scorn them... telling them to open their eyes by drawing eyes on the bag. But at the end instead of setting the person in front of him on fire, he does it to himself.... meaning we are all part of the problem
I think alot of the reason he isn't bigger is his health issue which have prevented him from touring. He did sign to a label but he got sick so he couldn't fulfill the contract. I think at this point he is better off without it.
So I've come back to watch your reaction to this a second time because got me thinking after the first watch of your reaction to this. I've seen hundreds of reactions to this song/video since Oct 2023 when it was released and I've never felt the need to go back and re-watch a reaction to it because of the theory I have put together due to the things you guys asked and said in your reaction. So this is a first for me. Bare with me, I hope I can express me thoughts clearly enough.
The first thing I want to do is say this particular song/video, not the full MG trilogy necessarily, could be linked to The Tale Of Jenny and Screech and Violet's Tale (intentionally or maybe it's just something that is absolute coincidence.)
In The Tales Trilogy Violet is born into a family with an abusive father and a mother that drinks and to escape that family she leaves home at 16 using a welfare scheme to afford her own place and she works a job stocking shelves at Tesco (I'm American but I'm assuming that's a grocery store.) I'm assuming that someone that is 16 and living on their own would prob have to drop out of school and work full time even with help from welfare in order to make ends meet. Which means Violet prob makes minimum wage and wouldn't have the education to ever get a job that pays a ton of money. Violet is then beaten by Stevie, her bf, ends up dying from the injuries but the doctors were able to save her twins, Jenny and Screech (Screech's real name being James) and since their mother is deceased, their father, Stevie (or their father could be Violet's father from the abuse, Ren never tells us who is the father of the twins )is either on the run because he murdered their mother or he ended up in jail and Violet's parents are no longer in her life so they wouldn't know she had babies or that she passed away.
So Jenny and James go up for adoption or to separate foster homes and grow up not knowing each other but they both also seemed to grow up in poverty (Jenny is 14 and walking the streets at night in high heels and just wants to escape her life so we kind of assume she's prob either a sex worker, stripper or something to that effect to make money and James is out smoking ganja with his friends at 14 and robbing people late at night on he streets so he is desperate for money as well and neither of them seem to have any adults that care about where they are or what they are doing in the middle of the night. So the entire Trilogy seems to be based on people that are living in poverty and the things that happen all the time to people that live in poverty and have to do whatever they can to survive.
Now, MG 3 is all about a boy named "Jimmy" (which is a nickname for someone named James) who was born to a mother and father that appear to be well off financially because they pay for private schools and the father keeps pushing Jimmy to make more money and obtain more power. Jimmy never wins his dad's approval, he pushes so hard thru his entire life to make more and more money and become more and more powerful and respected and ends up turning to illegal activities but at the level of a King Pin who is the boss and makes tons of money. He has 1 moment of passion with a prostitute and that's the closest thing to affection or love or connection with another human outside of his parents. He ends up injured and alone (lonely) with tons of money but no one to love or to show him love which is all he wanted from his dad his entire life. His drinks to numb the physical and mental pain and then unalives himself because he realized that that he wasted his money chasing the wrong things in life.
My theory is that these are parallel stories of James/Jimmy that both end in tragedy (the last words to each of their stories were "It's such a damn shame") regardless of he was born into poverty or wealth. Both Jimmy and James did not have anyone there for them that loved them when they died. If in either scenario there had been a loving parent or partner then things would prob have turned out differently.
Nothing short of having no power due to a direct hit from Hurricane Milton could have stopped me from watching this ASAP! Thank goodness that power came back on an hour ago, and y'all were here to welcome me back! ty😊
Ren had a record deal with Sony many years ago, his health prevented him from continuing on. I'm sure the fam. Can fill you in with the exact details.👀✌️ We're definitely blessed that he hasn't ever signed,we know that he never will go that path.❤🙌🙌
Yep, when Ren was part of the Trick the Fox band, pre-Lyme disease, he had started the process of creating the Freckled Angels album with Sony Records and then he got Lyme disease. The label was unwilling to support him because of how awful his condition had become, despite the fact that he still didn't have a proper Lyme disease diagnosis. He lost the contract and connections there and continued on as an independent artist. He's been an independent artist nearly 15 years now. I highly recommend checking out the Trick the Fox content eventually. You can hear a VERY clear difference between pre-Lyme disease Ren and post-Lyme disease Ren. Ren is much more positive and 'pop-y' in Trick the Fox compared to all of his later works. When he first started getting his symptoms, he created a song called Crutch with his then-girlfriend Bibi. It's an incredibly deep and personal track that is a visceral experience. The video is where he and Bibi are all but nude, holding onto each other through the pains of his worsening condition. It is sad, hard, poetic, and exceptionally good, even in his early 20s. I cannot recommend it enough to see where he came from to where he is now.
Yep. Seen these all one by breath-holding one! You were such a tease makin' us wait for these with those naughty cliff-hangers! Much Love ('cept for you Siah... skipping that solo! Tsk tsk tsk haha)
Your faces at the end of part 3! lol... WE all had the same no worries! haha and btw, your reactions are so good as weel, because your conversation about deep important issues is good and real and we love seeing other humans having these ideas... at least to me makes me feel Im not the only "black" sheep and there's a sense of "community" building up here. Thank you guys!
There is a forth story to the Money Game. An epilogue if you will. "Eden" was shown at the end of a competition he ran in the lead up to releasing MG3. Greed is the sin that Ren shines a light on more than any, and mankind's fall from grace can be seen as greed or a necessary evil, depending on what you do with that freedom. As always Ren's songs are there to start conversation and debate.
Echoing what others have said, already watched each individual vid, and now here to feed the algorithm beast and watch the whole bloody thing again in one go.
Yeah man, we definitely know it. It's madness here. Any American who denies it is either lying to themselves or plugging their ears singing "la la la la la". It's difficult to be a "patriot" and take accountability at the same time. Some people really struggle with that. Love your channel.
"How much money is enough money?" was so much what was rens intention with this trilogy... at least thats what i think. Thanks for such a great reaction ❤
Makes cents! The entire conversation about "How much $ would be enough?" is from the perspectives of 2 more "faceless" people with that bag over their head. We all wear the bag as long as we see the world through money. Drawing the eyes symbolizes being told what to see/how to see it.
I've Been watching reactions for a few years, you guys have something special here...don't change it up, you have an Authentic, entertaining, and insightful take...and can be "moved" by a performance and emote it. This is the key recipe- we want to relive emotional experiences and discovery through reactors. Keep up the good work. So many great songs for you to experience both inside Ren's body of work and elsewhere. Put on your list at some point: 1.Yebba - "My Mind" live from Sofar 2. Lorna Shore - pain remains trilogy...BUT - do them 1 at a time not in one sitting. And most importantly have the lyrics handy but not necessarily in the YT video. 3. Iam Tongi- "monsters" American idol audition. 4. Falling in Reverse- the drug in me is you. 5. " " - The Drug in me is Reimagined Keep up the good work!
@@thedreadinitpodcastI hope that pushy sub set of fans hadn’t decided to push for these to be done together by default. Unlike the tales, I think these three need breathing space in-between. Thinking time. I don’t like spending my comment efforts trying to counteract that crew. Wish they would let the reactors flow through as feels right.
Honestly I've gave up being surprised at Ren reaction. I seen one bad reaction to troubles saying he's repetitive . Never ever have I seen a community go at someone like that lol. He seriously is a monster of an artist. Who else can do all he does?. Name one other artist who can write perform multi instrumentalist poet actor beast of a lyricist. Name one other. You can't. He's just unreal.
How much is enough.. Ive always said, if i came into millions, I would buy everyone of my sisters a house, my mum a house, id help people, who i know , who jeed help then id go to strangers. I believe if i got a place to live and i can pay my bills then im good. I dont want extra.
We reached out to him via insta. Just to give him his props but the DM hasn't been read yet. But I understand he's not well and not likely to be on his instagram too much....but we think it will be a vibe!
@@thedreadinitpodcastI would LOVE to see that. He does incredible interviews and I know you guys would be able to uncover the deep dark secret of his Jamaican heritage 😂
Our boy's going through it and his friends are taking over his socials for a while once he's back on his treatment and feeling stronger we'll help make it happen if would be nice to see him chilling with you guy's ,love a UK Renegade ❤
The hoods means all of us. We are all part of the game. That's why he offs himself in MG1 because he gives a face to the other, looking into the mirror. The rope is around all of our necks, ready to kill us - the destruction of greed.
My memory ain't the best but I'm sure when I watched the bts of money game 3 Ren referred to the bags as money bags, which gives Rens use of them over the head with a noose a whole new meaning. Loving your reactions 👌👍 thanks
Commenting for the algorithm, but I also was wondering if you two know that there is a Renegade sub-cult that's formed around TDIP? I was on another reactor's live Ren premiere today and someone mentioned that there was no chair and Ren wasn't walking somewhere, so I asked but is he compounding a tale. Suddenly, 4 or 5 people in the chat mentioned TDIP. 🤣 I suppose it was quite rude of us, but it was funny!
You guys! Loved your reaction to the Money Game 3. The total silence. It was like I was watching it for the first time. Thank you for that. So insightful. Awesome reaction. 💙. Ending it with questions is the best way I’ve seen this end.
A nice rewatch. The cloth tied by noose-like rope reminds me of old school money bags that we're always clothed in. Nearly impossible to see when it's intrinsic to your daily life. We forget that money & capitalism are human constructs and only one of various options one could use for trade or functioning society. I think the narrator (Ren) draws eyes to make the hostage see, but his action makes him see the faceless Other as a real person. He realizes he has also been pointing his fingers at others and blaming. He realizes he's been a part of the Money Game all along and decides to take himself out if the game (& more). He does this in a way that joins the crazy human timeline of people self-immolating as a former of protest. (He even poses himself like the infamous Buddhist monk, whose photograph became famous again in the 90s when used on their debut album by Rage Against the Machine. You'll see nods to RAtM & Zack de la Rocha in Ren's catalog.) Great job, gentlemen! 💛✌️
Loving these, new subscriber. You mentioned in one episode about guitar players, if you want another rabbit hole, try Stevie Ray Vaughan, Texas Flood live at El Mocambo, also Tin Pan Alley live. Arguably the greatest guitarist of the last 40 years. He doesn’t play, the music flows out of him. His eyes are closed most of the time, wouldn’t matter if there was 5 or 5k people in front of him.
I think the scene where he’s setting himself on fire is a situation where we want to burn the system down but we burn ourselves down instead by choosing to accept that this is just the way things are. “We’re all part of this old money game”
I truly enjoy watching with you. Your engagement with each other, interpretation flow and having a genuinely great time discovering Ren’s unique brilliant talent 🥰🎶🙌
another lil factoid for you lads, money game 1 took over 100 takes, they got kicked off the shoot, the lights went out, heavy rain in another attempt, eventually they got the final take. the apitomie of guerrilla film making. all the camera shots and positioning are worked out long before the shoot. then practiced at the location, then action. the pouring of fuel at the end of mg1 was olive oil... mg2 now you know where "she sells sea shells" came from in the kujo beat down
Ren is actually making more money being independent. If he signed to a label they are gonna want to own most of his catalogue. Yeah they give you an advance that you have to pay back. Then they get a percentage of everything. And its usually like a 80 20 or 90 10. The label keeps most of your money. nowadays they do 360 deal where they also get a percentage of your touring and merch. Ren being fully independent means he owns all his masters and gets to keep 100%. There isnt no one with a deal that can say they own their music unless they bought them back from the labels 😂. Alot of these industry artists are broke and in debt to their labels. They get shelved and it takes forever to actually get out their contracts , if they ever do get out. But good reaction big yall up!
TDIP. ... I love you guys. Big ups from this Navajo man. We all live on the same ball of dirt together. There is no separation in our world. My favorite music has always been Reggae. Ren is now my favorite artist but he is his own genre in my opinion. My request is back to the yard and do a reaction to "Love The Life You Live" by Midnite. People should hear that song. RIP Vaughn Benjamin
This is a masterpiece! Ren is a genius! To love all his talent and love him for the special young man he is comes so easy. I was hooked on him from the first time I seen him and had my girlfriends hooked on him too. Love the both of you your reaction is so good! God Bless Always
Late AF to it, but I think the initial video was supposed to reference images of torture at abu ghraib and the hoods go on as a visual rhyme throughout. Possibly to continue the theme of humanizing the victim in the first video - which is why the torturer in that one kills himself after he sees the humanity (drawn eyes) in his victim.
I'm thinking that we walk around with eyes wide shut and painting the eyes wide open is what Ren is trying to do... edit: pt:2 literally tells the story of Shell petroleum n pt:3 i don't know, but it's a wicked story!!
I tend to think that in #1 he drew eyes so that the faceless power could now see him and his protest is the fire in homage to the Buddhist monk who did so back in the 70's I think it was. The cover of the Rage Against the Machine album.
I just got two new cats from the pound. I named the Malaise and Fatigue. Of course that has nothing to do with your absolutely wonderful reaction video, but hey.
dont know your names yet but fella on the left, you got it ..the message..money is ofcourse necessary, but the constant plight for more and more money, means nothing compared to health and happiness and just appreciating the real things x
This entire trilogy speaks to the way I have felt for decades myself as a 51 year old American/Puerto Rican and I try my best to live without the love of money and corruption it may bring, I really don't need stuff, any money I don't spend on necessities I spend on experiences and go to concerts, especially of independent artists 🤘🏽🔥⚡🎶❤️🔥🫶🏽
Hi Guys, rom Australia. I love all your Ren reactions. My take on why he lights himself is in the chorus, "...we're all part of this money game" In other words if we are going to hold anyone accountable we also have to hold ourselves accountable. No good saying it's out of our hands. We are not powerless. We can't be lazy and blame. If we want things to change then we must be the change, we must change it. ❤❤
Just got in from work and see this on my feed. I watched all 3 already, but I'm have this all day. Thx boys for digging Ren. Really enjoying your reactions. Yma o Hyd brothers. Later D
I think the hooded people are the rich and their help. The noose is the money. You ask in part three. "how much money is enough"? May be enough to hang your self. Part 1 I think the hooded figure keeps playing the same tune. They don't change. When Ren bent over the hooded figure and threatened them . then beat them. The figure kept playing the same tune. It is my opinion that the eyes on the hood is Ren saying look at me. Look at what you are doing. And who you are doing it to. But they kept playing the same tune. Not changing. Ren pours fuel over the hooded figure. Then realizes it won't work. They will just replace the hooded figure with another faceless rich person. Who will play the same tune. In 1963 a Buddhist Monk poured fuel on himself and lit himself on fire. In the middle of the street in Saigon Vietnam. He did this In front of journalist in protest of the plight of the people due to government persecution. And so Ren doused himself in fuel Part 2 The Monk burns to expose the plight of the people I have not seen a singer go so hard at the world leaders and there masters. Part 3 In this part . Ren is showing us how money used It self, self-esteem, the blood of innocent people and drugs. To make the noose to end one of its worshipers. This is just my interpretation of this awesome film clip and music. But what do I know. I am a 53 year old fat guy. Who drives dozers for a living
45 mins? Do I invest in this? Yer damn right I will! peace and love from Bonnie Scotland guys. U guys smashin it, esp with the Ren stuff. keep pushin :)
Sony signed him when he was like 16 or maybe 17 and before he could really takeoff his self deteriorated and he couldn’t keep up with some of his obligations and workload so they cut him. Basically said thanks but no thanks. I’m sure they are regretting that decision now but you’ll see in a couple of his videos. The song he does with Chris Webby and in troubles is wearing a jacket that says Hollywood spit me out. That’s what he’s referring to.
Great reaction! Love watching your reactions and your accents are great! My kids teased me about changing my gps to a British accent. Lol! ❤❤❤ Love from Texas! Y’all are great!
I seen all these individually but I had to go in and put a thumbs up on this one cuz you know the algorithm needs to be fed.
Big Up Jamo!
Feed it like , Santa on Christmas eve 😂
Same, gonna watch again all in a row ❤
Same 😂 And that's why I'm commenting as well 😆
We all came here with the same idea lol Great job on this one guys! Gotta feed the beast called algo 🦎
Edit: btw, those are money bags on their heads 😉
Me too. I really like these Ren reactions so wanted to feed the beast. Plus, for two guys who started with Kujo Beat Down I wanted to see your discussion on this because the irony of someone trying to "take" from Ren when he is so vocal about his opinions on greed is ridiculous.
MG3 has won a few awards and even Andrew Lloyd Webber commented on how good this video is. Love your reactions x
Renegade here. The money bag over the head signifies how we are all blind and Ren is basically opening our eyes. Money game part 3 is awesome!
been recent to ren but i feel his songs are an attempt to open our eyes, him drawing them in p-1 is to show we have vision but are blind to society overall. we know bad is happening but choose to ignore it when we benefit. when we don't its easier to burn ourselves than the reason. that's just my view on it
I came here to start a hate comment section due to the fact that you already made me enjoy MG1, 2 and 3 in separate reactions, and now you want me to listen to them again in ONE click-bait video??? Sure, no problem! :) Keep it up; love the hell out of your reactions. You guys just brighten up my day with your commentary!
James.... You had us in the first half my boy! 😂
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I already saw all of them individually but you know damn well I gotta come back and watch it all as one lol. Much love! Seriously loving the reactions.
I believe his message is: “We are not powerless.” We have the option to change our fate just as REN did when he took off the noose and the cover off of his head. Meaning we can all do that. If you notice how easy it was for him to take it off, and when he did, he saw himself for the first time in the mirror. We can do the same, but we walk around with blinders of our own choosing. The system we think is holding us back is in fact a fragile one, a weak one just like the noose on a rope that isn’t fastened to any scaffolding, not realizing that if we just open her eyes, we will immediately figure out there’s no danger at the other end of the rope. It was all a lie. But we put on and keep the cover over our heads because it’s easier to aqueous to a system that has perfected and provides on a daily basis self perpetuating hypnosis. We do it because it’s easier, because the real struggle happens every time you wake up in the morning. The famous and late George Carlin said “the dream only works if you’re asleep“. The noose around your neck is loose and you are the one holding the other end.
Great synopsis...very good friend
I love that you are willing to go deep. Some people are not willing to truly explore or go deep for fear of being wrong. So being willing to really think and sink your teeth into things makes this a channel worth watching.
So I watched this through again and I thought I'd have to say Ren pauses the musicians like Siah pauses in the guitar solo!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 now that's hilarious
He's NEVER gonna live that down!
Oh! Truth!
@@thedreadinitpodcast not soon anyways...lol.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love your takes. My two pence: Drawing the eyes on the hood in MG1 - Ren is forcibly opening our eyes.
How much money is enough? - You two struggled a bit with this. Here is my take, there is no figure that is enough. Truth is, you can piss away any amount of money. When you focus on scarcity, there is no number that is ever enough. Want to go to Mars?
"That was a bit rude" cracked me up. So English. You two are proper magic.
I remember first finding Ren and being blown away at how talented a person could be, great watching you guys go through the same realisation that Ren isn't just another musician, he's a generational talent
Swear i saw you watch these all individually. Does this mean i wont watch? HELL NOOOOOO. Here we go 🔥
Dedication for the Nation! COME ON! 🔥🔥🔥
saaaaaameeee!!! so goood you did the 3 and now all together!
Seen them , but hey you guys are so entertaining I've come for a repeat ❤
We're like cake.... You can never have too much TDIP
Ren will be forever relevant. This will never stop. Even when money stops existing. As long as we are here there is someone to teach about what we did wrong once.
ABOUT THE BAG…In the game Monopoly, the goal is to make as much money as you can. The Monopoly logo is a man running carrying a money bag as if he’s stealing it. We all, in one way or another, pursue money and wealth so we all have the money bag over our heads strangling us. With the bag over our head, all we see is money and nothing else. Influencers, corporations, and politicians want us to believe that money is all that matters. Ren drawing the eyes on the bagged guy in Money Game part 1 is telling us to open our eyes and see how we’re being manipulated. The bagged guy in Money Game 3 that grabs and replaces Ren at the piano is telling us that we’re all just cogs in the machine and can easily be replaced.
Also…fun fact about Sea Shells in Money Game 2 is that the Shell Oil Corporation started out as a Shell shop in London selling rare shells. So it’s actually a true-to-life story where selling sea shells turns into selling oil and reaping the earth of its natural resources.
I’m from AMERICA…and yes…we’re a shit-show right now. I believe Ren was absolutely talking about Trump…”stepping out on a stage to a round of applause…a liar, a cheat, a devil, a whore…etc”. If he gets re-elected, we’re totally fucked.
You explained the bag very well. I lways thought of hostages, which perfectly fits your ideas.
Cheers from Germany, I keep my fingers crossed for your country and for all of us, that the orange conman goes away once and for all!
damn, crazy I had respect for this comment until you tried to pin it all on one man as if Kamala is any better, they are all politicians, and they are winning with more people with your mindset and brain capacity. Sad to see really.
Ya. Great explanation, thank you 😊 but ya the ending wants me to take my like away😢 but I won't cause of the effort you put in the explanation. ❤
@rwsimmons - What a couple wanted to say but didn't - And you are the sheep he was talking about in Part 1. Start thinking of the whole and not seeing in parts. You blind yourself.
My opinion is my opinion and I stand by it. Not here to argue the merits of one politician over another or to attack others because of their beliefs. Have a nice day.
Money only makes a difference if you can't pay for the basics, but once you can survive, you may think more will make you happier, but it doesn't. Gratitude for what you have is the key, no matter how much wealth you have.
And I'm grateful for your reactions, guys 🇦🇺
Give these #TDIP men their flowers.
As for Ren, one take is the 40th take in... they are disciplined and determined, rehearsed and discussion.. It takes bravery to failure to get it right.
I am all in w this channel. ****edit - props to Ren's crew. You do not do this alone. He has amazing people about him. He is a master but he has a crew about him that allows for the best of the best of the best,
I may be wrong but I believe $ game 3 came after he had success... the man took #1 in UK as an independent. and what the hell did he do? he put the money back into equipment and hiring people. This man has his head on right. Invest in those who are vested in you.
You are appreciated! Thank you so much
Love all your reactions. I've been binge watching them while I work on my art. Y'all cracked me up at the end of Money Game 3. You were so absolutely still that I thought my screen froze
Setting himself on fire in MG1, was him realising and acknowledging that he is part of the problem too. He kept on wanting to hurt the person with the bag over the head and kind of scorn them... telling them to open their eyes by drawing eyes on the bag. But at the end instead of setting the person in front of him on fire, he does it to himself.... meaning we are all part of the problem
Thanks for releasing it as a trilogy reaction, mates!
Loved it!
Compound a fable and walkabout!
I think alot of the reason he isn't bigger is his health issue which have prevented him from touring. He did sign to a label but he got sick so he couldn't fulfill the contract. I think at this point he is better off without it.
So I've come back to watch your reaction to this a second time because got me thinking after the first watch of your reaction to this. I've seen hundreds of reactions to this song/video since Oct 2023 when it was released and I've never felt the need to go back and re-watch a reaction to it because of the theory I have put together due to the things you guys asked and said in your reaction. So this is a first for me. Bare with me, I hope I can express me thoughts clearly enough.
The first thing I want to do is say this particular song/video, not the full MG trilogy necessarily, could be linked to The Tale Of Jenny and Screech and Violet's Tale (intentionally or maybe it's just something that is absolute coincidence.)
In The Tales Trilogy Violet is born into a family with an abusive father and a mother that drinks and to escape that family she leaves home at 16 using a welfare scheme to afford her own place and she works a job stocking shelves at Tesco (I'm American but I'm assuming that's a grocery store.) I'm assuming that someone that is 16 and living on their own would prob have to drop out of school and work full time even with help from welfare in order to make ends meet. Which means Violet prob makes minimum wage and wouldn't have the education to ever get a job that pays a ton of money. Violet is then beaten by Stevie, her bf, ends up dying from the injuries but the doctors were able to save her twins, Jenny and Screech (Screech's real name being James) and since their mother is deceased, their father, Stevie (or their father could be Violet's father from the abuse, Ren never tells us who is the father of the twins )is either on the run because he murdered their mother or he ended up in jail and Violet's parents are no longer in her life so they wouldn't know she had babies or that she passed away.
So Jenny and James go up for adoption or to separate foster homes and grow up not knowing each other but they both also seemed to grow up in poverty (Jenny is 14 and walking the streets at night in high heels and just wants to escape her life so we kind of assume she's prob either a sex worker, stripper or something to that effect to make money and James is out smoking ganja with his friends at 14 and robbing people late at night on he streets so he is desperate for money as well and neither of them seem to have any adults that care about where they are or what they are doing in the middle of the night. So the entire Trilogy seems to be based on people that are living in poverty and the things that happen all the time to people that live in poverty and have to do whatever they can to survive.
Now, MG 3 is all about a boy named "Jimmy" (which is a nickname for someone named James) who was born to a mother and father that appear to be well off financially because they pay for private schools and the father keeps pushing Jimmy to make more money and obtain more power. Jimmy never wins his dad's approval, he pushes so hard thru his entire life to make more and more money and become more and more powerful and respected and ends up turning to illegal activities but at the level of a King Pin who is the boss and makes tons of money. He has 1 moment of passion with a prostitute and that's the closest thing to affection or love or connection with another human outside of his parents. He ends up injured and alone (lonely) with tons of money but no one to love or to show him love which is all he wanted from his dad his entire life. His drinks to numb the physical and mental pain and then unalives himself because he realized that that he wasted his money chasing the wrong things in life.
My theory is that these are parallel stories of James/Jimmy that both end in tragedy (the last words to each of their stories were "It's such a damn shame") regardless of he was born into poverty or wealth. Both Jimmy and James did not have anyone there for them that loved them when they died. If in either scenario there had been a loving parent or partner then things would prob have turned out differently.
Nothing short of having no power due to a direct hit from Hurricane Milton could have stopped me from watching this ASAP! Thank goodness that power came back on an hour ago, and y'all were here to welcome me back! ty😊
My first reaction of you guys...and now I'm subscribed. Must be fate, bc it's also my birthday.
Ren had a record deal with Sony many years ago, his health prevented him from continuing on. I'm sure the fam. Can fill you in with the exact details.👀✌️
We're definitely blessed that he hasn't ever signed,we know that he never will go that path.❤🙌🙌
Yep, when Ren was part of the Trick the Fox band, pre-Lyme disease, he had started the process of creating the Freckled Angels album with Sony Records and then he got Lyme disease. The label was unwilling to support him because of how awful his condition had become, despite the fact that he still didn't have a proper Lyme disease diagnosis. He lost the contract and connections there and continued on as an independent artist. He's been an independent artist nearly 15 years now.
I highly recommend checking out the Trick the Fox content eventually. You can hear a VERY clear difference between pre-Lyme disease Ren and post-Lyme disease Ren. Ren is much more positive and 'pop-y' in Trick the Fox compared to all of his later works.
When he first started getting his symptoms, he created a song called Crutch with his then-girlfriend Bibi. It's an incredibly deep and personal track that is a visceral experience. The video is where he and Bibi are all but nude, holding onto each other through the pains of his worsening condition. It is sad, hard, poetic, and exceptionally good, even in his early 20s. I cannot recommend it enough to see where he came from to where he is now.
Yep. Seen these all one by breath-holding one! You were such a tease makin' us wait for these with those naughty cliff-hangers! Much Love ('cept for you Siah... skipping that solo! Tsk tsk tsk haha)
Siah has been reprimanded to the full extent of the dread!
@@thedreadinitpodcast ok i lied! Much love to Siah too! I hope Siah is OK !
Your faces at the end of part 3! lol... WE all had the same no worries! haha and btw, your reactions are so good as weel, because your conversation about deep important issues is good and real and we love seeing other humans having these ideas... at least to me makes me feel Im not the only "black" sheep and there's a sense of "community" building up here. Thank you guys!
First time with you two. Great inputs, fun, even introspective conversation; what's not to love.
Much love,
~ New subscriber & Embarrassed American ~
The cam man is going where ren is previously planned to go, it's all ren man
💰💰💰The bags on the head represents money bags, people's heads are in them, brainwashed and blinkered, chasing money.. 💰💰💰
There is a forth story to the Money Game. An epilogue if you will.
"Eden" was shown at the end of a competition he ran in the lead up to releasing MG3.
Greed is the sin that Ren shines a light on more than any, and mankind's fall from grace can be seen as greed or a necessary evil, depending on what you do with that freedom.
As always Ren's songs are there to start conversation and debate.
Glad you guys put these all together in one video.
Echoing what others have said, already watched each individual vid, and now here to feed the algorithm beast and watch the whole bloody thing again in one go.
Love your reactions ❤ feeding the hangry algorithm 😂
Yeah man, we definitely know it. It's madness here. Any American who denies it is either lying to themselves or plugging their ears singing "la la la la la". It's difficult to be a "patriot" and take accountability at the same time. Some people really struggle with that. Love your channel.
Back for the MG reunion. Its been so long everyone! 😂
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I watched you do these separately, so thumbs up for the algo
Repeat visit cuz love your reactions. The Ren rabbit hole is deep but so entertaining and diverse.
"How much money is enough money?" was so much what was rens intention with this trilogy... at least thats what i think. Thanks for such a great reaction ❤
Bags over the heads are money bags.
Makes cents! The entire conversation about "How much $ would be enough?" is from the perspectives of 2 more "faceless" people with that bag over their head. We all wear the bag as long as we see the world through money. Drawing the eyes symbolizes being told what to see/how to see it.
I've Been watching reactions for a few years, you guys have something special here...don't change it up, you have an Authentic, entertaining, and insightful take...and can be "moved" by a performance and emote it. This is the key recipe- we want to relive emotional experiences and discovery through reactors.
Keep up the good work. So many great songs for you to experience both inside Ren's body of work and elsewhere. Put on your list at some point:
1.Yebba - "My Mind" live from Sofar
2. Lorna Shore - pain remains trilogy...BUT - do them 1 at a time not in one sitting. And most importantly have the lyrics handy but not necessarily in the YT video.
3. Iam Tongi- "monsters" American idol audition.
4. Falling in Reverse- the drug in me is you.
5. " " - The Drug in me is Reimagined
Keep up the good work!
Even the winners are losers when you play the money game.
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You guys should do all these individually next. But seriously, *FRED AGAIN MASHUP* please
We did 😏 but a few people got mad at us so we released this one as a whole!
@@thedreadinitpodcastI know, and I liked and commented on each one. Just grinding your gears brother 😂
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@@thedreadinitpodcastI hope that pushy sub set of fans hadn’t decided to push for these to be done together by default. Unlike the tales, I think these three need breathing space in-between. Thinking time.
I don’t like spending my comment efforts trying to counteract that crew. Wish they would let the reactors flow through as feels right.
Honestly I've gave up being surprised at Ren reaction. I seen one bad reaction to troubles saying he's repetitive . Never ever have I seen a community go at someone like that lol. He seriously is a monster of an artist. Who else can do all he does?. Name one other artist who can write perform multi instrumentalist poet actor beast of a lyricist. Name one other. You can't. He's just unreal.
Prince is the ONLY human that stands on that mountain With Ren RIP 💜💜💜
Prince, Bowie, Dylan. He's up there with the apex artists.
How much is enough..
Ive always said, if i came into millions, I would buy everyone of my sisters a house, my mum a house, id help people, who i know , who jeed help then id go to strangers.
I believe if i got a place to live and i can pay my bills then im good. I dont want extra.
You guys need to talk to Ren and have Ren on your channel.
We reached out to him via insta. Just to give him his props but the DM hasn't been read yet. But I understand he's not well and not likely to be on his instagram too much....but we think it will be a vibe!
@@thedreadinitpodcastI would LOVE to see that. He does incredible interviews and I know you guys would be able to uncover the deep dark secret of his Jamaican heritage 😂
Our boy's going through it and his friends are taking over his socials for a while once he's back on his treatment and feeling stronger we'll help make it happen if would be nice to see him chilling with you guy's ,love a UK Renegade ❤
Love love love you!! Will chekc out your song! Congratulations to 1 Mill!!🎉🎉🎉
The hoods means all of us. We are all part of the game. That's why he offs himself in MG1 because he gives a face to the other, looking into the mirror.
The rope is around all of our necks, ready to kill us - the destruction of greed.
About the face on the faceless... notice he didn't uncover the true face of the faceless, but drew on it what he wanted it to look like.
My memory ain't the best but I'm sure when I watched the bts of money game 3 Ren referred to the bags as money bags, which gives Rens use of them over the head with a noose a whole new meaning. Loving your reactions 👌👍 thanks
Watched all 3 individually but came to spread the love ✌️ Keep up the great work, guys 🫶
Commenting for the algorithm, but I also was wondering if you two know that there is a Renegade sub-cult that's formed around TDIP? I was on another reactor's live Ren premiere today and someone mentioned that there was no chair and Ren wasn't walking somewhere, so I asked but is he compounding a tale. Suddenly, 4 or 5 people in the chat mentioned TDIP. 🤣
I suppose it was quite rude of us, but it was funny!
Good idea droppin this with all 3 in the same video and as separate videos, love it!
You guys! Loved your reaction to the Money Game 3. The total silence. It was like I was watching it for the first time. Thank you for that. So insightful. Awesome reaction. 💙. Ending it with questions is the best way I’ve seen this end.
A nice rewatch. The cloth tied by noose-like rope reminds me of old school money bags that we're always clothed in. Nearly impossible to see when it's intrinsic to your daily life. We forget that money & capitalism are human constructs and only one of various options one could use for trade or functioning society. I think the narrator (Ren) draws eyes to make the hostage see, but his action makes him see the faceless Other as a real person. He realizes he has also been pointing his fingers at others and blaming. He realizes he's been a part of the Money Game all along and decides to take himself out if the game (& more). He does this in a way that joins the crazy human timeline of people self-immolating as a former of protest. (He even poses himself like the infamous Buddhist monk, whose photograph became famous again in the 90s when used on their debut album by Rage Against the Machine. You'll see nods to RAtM & Zack de la Rocha in Ren's catalog.)
Great job, gentlemen! 💛✌️
Really enjoying your vibe.. nice to bundle these up together ❤
Great reaction, But you should checkout the lyric Vid "Crucify Your Culture" It's an earlier vid. basically talking about consumerism
Super fun watch... even better watching all three in a row!❤ 😊
And YES, 1 billion is way too many dollars!
Yes I'm gonna watch these again😂
nice to have 'em back to back for future reference :D
Loving these, new subscriber. You mentioned in one episode about guitar players, if you want another rabbit hole, try Stevie Ray Vaughan, Texas Flood live at El Mocambo, also Tin Pan Alley live. Arguably the greatest guitarist of the last 40 years. He doesn’t play, the music flows out of him. His eyes are closed most of the time, wouldn’t matter if there was 5 or 5k people in front of him.
I think the scene where he’s setting himself on fire is a situation where we want to burn the system down but we burn ourselves down instead by choosing to accept that this is just the way things are. “We’re all part of this old money game”
Awesome separate even better all together. Thank you Gents. Love watching you.
I truly enjoy watching with you. Your engagement with each other, interpretation flow and having a genuinely great time discovering Ren’s unique brilliant talent 🥰🎶🙌
23:52 " you know he is going to compund a fable ?" 😂😂😂
I’d love to see you rewatch Kujo Beat Down with context. You see the call backs from other songs❤
another lil factoid for you lads, money game 1 took over 100 takes, they got kicked off the shoot, the lights went out, heavy rain in another attempt, eventually they got the final take. the apitomie of guerrilla film making.
all the camera shots and positioning are worked out long before the shoot. then practiced at the location, then action.
the pouring of fuel at the end of mg1 was olive oil...
mg2 now you know where "she sells sea shells" came from in the kujo beat down
loved this ! probably not your typical thing but have u heard Ren- Mackay ..its bloody stunning x
I love you guys!! ❤❤❤❤
Fantastic trio reaction, love love loved it, thank you Gents, 🙏🦉❤️🐊👍
You Sirs deserve more subscriptions!
Ren is actually making more money being independent. If he signed to a label they are gonna want to own most of his catalogue. Yeah they give you an advance that you have to pay back. Then they get a percentage of everything. And its usually like a 80 20 or 90 10. The label keeps most of your money. nowadays they do 360 deal where they also get a percentage of your touring and merch. Ren being fully independent means he owns all his masters and gets to keep 100%. There isnt no one with a deal that can say they own their music unless they bought them back from the labels 😂. Alot of these industry artists are broke and in debt to their labels. They get shelved and it takes forever to actually get out their contracts , if they ever do get out. But good reaction big yall up!
TDIP. ... I love you guys. Big ups from this Navajo man. We all live on the same ball of dirt together. There is no separation in our world. My favorite music has always been Reggae. Ren is now my favorite artist but he is his own genre in my opinion. My request is back to the yard and do a reaction to "Love The Life You Live" by Midnite. People should hear that song.
RIP Vaughn Benjamin
Did you see Ren's performance of money game 2 at the Sky Arts Awards recently? Being from the UK you might appreciate the significance.
This is a masterpiece! Ren is a genius! To love all his talent and love him for the special young man he is comes so easy. I was hooked on him from the first time I seen him and had my girlfriends hooked on him too. Love the both of you your reaction is so good! God Bless Always
I'm glad you put them all together, I too watched them individually but algorithm :)
I think the ending is him saying that, in the end, we are all just killing ourselves for consumption and money.
Love TDIP , said i will whatch the rabbit hole . Some insites i never thought of
Late AF to it, but I think the initial video was supposed to reference images of torture at abu ghraib and the hoods go on as a visual rhyme throughout. Possibly to continue the theme of humanizing the victim in the first video - which is why the torturer in that one kills himself after he sees the humanity (drawn eyes) in his victim.
As ive said before. Kp getting traumatised by Ren is one of my favourite things to watch on yt 😂
😂 I'm glad my trauma brings you joy!
KP❤️
@@thedreadinitpodcastit's authentic. You can't fake trauma easily 😂
I'm thinking that we walk around with eyes wide shut and painting the eyes wide open is what Ren is trying to do... edit: pt:2 literally tells the story of Shell petroleum n pt:3 i don't know, but it's a wicked story!!
Murderer acoustic please! Totally different than murderer official video. You'll LOVE the reggae vibes.
Go and check our Murderer video 😏
I tend to think that in #1 he drew eyes so that the faceless power could now see him and his protest is the fire in homage to the Buddhist monk who did so back in the 70's I think it was. The cover of the Rage Against the Machine album.
Y'ALL MADE MY DAY! 😂❤WHAT A WAY TO START ❤🎉
I just got two new cats from the pound. I named the Malaise and Fatigue. Of course that has nothing to do with your absolutely wonderful reaction video, but hey.
Listen... Feel free to share whatever the hell you want to with your boys! ❤️
dont know your names yet but fella on the left, you got it ..the message..money is ofcourse necessary, but the constant plight for more and more money, means nothing compared to health and happiness and just appreciating the real things x
It's pure entertainment this! Thanks for reacting to Ren 💚✌️
Now, Jimmy put his hand in the cookie jar, leads back to Kujo beatdown 😊kujo is Jimmy.
The guys has gone ghost......
Monks have set themselves on fire as a means of protesting inhumane situations. I believe it's a nod to that.
This entire trilogy speaks to the way I have felt for decades myself as a 51 year old American/Puerto Rican and I try my best to live without the love of money and corruption it may bring, I really don't need stuff, any money I don't spend on necessities I spend on experiences and go to concerts, especially of independent artists
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Hi Guys, rom Australia. I love all your Ren reactions. My take on why he lights himself is in the chorus, "...we're all part of this money game" In other words if we are going to hold anyone accountable we also have to hold ourselves accountable. No good saying it's out of our hands. We are not powerless. We can't be lazy and blame. If we want things to change then we must be the change, we must change it.
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fire. love your insights and authenticity
Just got in from work and see this on my feed. I watched all 3 already, but I'm have this all day. Thx boys for digging Ren. Really enjoying your reactions. Yma o Hyd brothers. Later D
I think the hooded people are the rich and their help. The noose is the money. You ask in part three. "how much money is enough"? May be enough to hang your self.
Part 1
I think the hooded figure keeps playing the same tune. They don't change. When Ren bent over the hooded figure and threatened them . then beat them. The figure kept playing the same tune.
It is my opinion that the eyes on the hood is Ren saying look at me. Look at what you are doing. And who you are doing it to.
But they kept playing the same tune. Not changing.
Ren pours fuel over the hooded figure. Then realizes it won't work. They will just replace the hooded figure with another faceless rich person. Who will play the same tune.
In 1963 a Buddhist Monk poured fuel on himself and lit himself on fire. In the middle of the street in Saigon Vietnam. He did this In front of journalist in protest of the plight of the people due to government persecution.
And so Ren doused himself in fuel
Part 2
The Monk burns to expose the plight of the people
I have not seen a singer go so hard at the world leaders and there masters.
Part 3
In this part . Ren is showing us how money used It self, self-esteem, the blood of innocent people and drugs. To make the noose to end one of its worshipers.
This is just my interpretation of this awesome film clip and music. But what do I know. I am a 53 year old fat guy. Who drives dozers for a living
Good individually, now even better as a set. Nice work, fellas!
45 mins? Do I invest in this? Yer damn right I will! peace and love from Bonnie Scotland guys. U guys smashin it, esp with the Ren stuff. keep pushin :)
so we gonna educate ourselves with the venus project and zeitgeist movement movies :)
Sony signed him when he was like 16 or maybe 17 and before he could really takeoff his self deteriorated and he couldn’t keep up with some of his obligations and workload so they cut him. Basically said thanks but no thanks. I’m sure they are regretting that decision now but you’ll see in a couple of his videos. The song he does with Chris Webby and in troubles is wearing a jacket that says Hollywood spit me out. That’s what he’s referring to.
We love you guys!
Great reaction! Love watching your reactions and your accents are great! My kids teased me about changing my gps to a British accent. Lol! ❤❤❤ Love from Texas! Y’all are great!